Dr. Richard Jacoby | The Toxic Effects of Sugar & The Corporate Food Conspiracy

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01:40 Alright people, we know that nearly every sector of the societal pie is dominated by think tanks and corporate interests leaving the truth distorted and the public confused on a whole host of topics. One of the biggest areas of misinformation and ignorance is diet health and nutrition where dishonest companies in their powerful lobbyists have made so much money selling us harmful and addictive garbage in recent decades that they've flooded the information stream with deceptive scientific studies, savvy marketing and bought off the very regulatory agencies the public thinks they're being protected by. It's an unfortunate situation and the main culprit at the heart of this quest for consumption clarity is sugar! And the real treat for us is having Dr Richard Jacobi here to shed some light on the true harms of sugar and how we ended up in this situation

02:24 All information that he details in his excellent new book Sugar Crush, which looks at nerve damage and its links to sugar. I definitely learned a lot and if our conspiracy culture is going to be concerned with our subjugation to poisons and toxins this is an area that can't be ignored On top of being the author of a great new book, Dr. Jacoby is one of the country's leading peripheral nerve surgeons and co-founder of the Scottsdale Health Care Wound Management Center and the former president of both the Arizona Podiatry Association and the Association of Extremity Nerve Surgeons. An impressive resume to say the least! Let's dive into it. Dr. Jacoby welcome to THC

03:01 Well, thank you for having me. Yeah man thanks so much for being here the harmful effects of a high sugar diet is a subject I like to revisit when i find myself slipping so I'm happy to be talking about it and let me start with a question that also starts your book because when thinking about the type of doctor that might write a book about The Dangers Of Sugar A podiatrist isn't the first type of doctor people might think of So let me ask you why a podiatrist? Well, we actually do get involved with sugar and its manifestations in the lower extremity with gangrene and amputations.

03:35 And that's what my orientation was about 30 years ago, 25 years ago when I formed the Scottsdale Health Care Wound Care Center which is a big problem with the population in United States. So that was my orientation from surgical standpoint but I morphed over to more of the biochemistry and trying to find out why we're having this epidemic And that's what the nature of this book is on nerves and its damage. Yeah, I mean obviously it ties into so many different illnesses diseases and disorders way more than i even thought before. I read the book and the big one of course is diabetes most people are aware that diabetes and pre-diabetes is on the rise in that its directly related to sugar but how bad is that problem really? Well it's really pandemic it's all over the world now at least 350 million people are affected by that

04:32 So, let's go back and just talk about diabetes and diabetic neuropathy to find some terms. And this is what I tried to do in the book. Diabetes itself means from a Greek word means to siphon urine that sweet. That's basically what it means. Diabetes melitus is the real term, melitus meaning sweet. In the old days, in 1500s Physicians tasted the patient's urine and it was sweet they made that diagnosis thank god we have new technology to not have to do that on a daily basis.

05:10 But it's really a simple process when you think about it. It is too much sugar and only the rich in the past had access to sugar, who was very expensive commodity and England 1600 cost about $1000 per pound so only the rich had diabetes and all the other neuro degenerative diseases that we will talk about today But now sugar is cheap in the form of high fructose corn syrup. It's an 80% of all the foods in United States and now everybody has the disease, so thanks to mass marketing we have an answer to our problem. We have sugar in everything

05:53 Yeah, it's definitely way out of whack. I guess close to 50% of adults might be seeing diabetes in their lifetime? Is that accurate? That seems like way too many! No, it's totally accurate. The Medicare population age 65 or older have 50% either metabolic syndrome and or diabetes but they're subjected to a diet over the last 45 years that relatively speaking didn't have as much sugar so I suspect that number is going to climb exponentially because now

06:29 beginning in the 70s, we started to put high fructose corn syrup in the food supply. Now industry will argue back against that notion that high fructose corn syrup is no different than normal fructose but I don't think it-that is true there is a difference the way they manufacture it and I like Like the fact that you think there is a conspiracy because there is most of the organizations scientists are. involved with are funded by these companies. Of course, they're going to ask for an answer that supports their notion that their food is good. Now here's a perfect example and this just happened over the weekend there is a gal by name of Maureen Story and she is CEO of The Alliance for Potato Research in Education She has been impressive I will let's just call her Mrs. Potato Head

07:27 And she is an excellent scientist, no question about it. She's got great credentials and she used to work for the beverage industry but she also worked for Kellogg so now she's working for potatoes and letting the world know that potatoes are the best thing since sliced bread, no pun intended there. It's all sugar And potato is a vegetable for sure, but it is the most starchy vegetable and the one that we like the best in forms of potato chips and French fries. That's what got into The School Lunch Program. Now she was just... She just replaced an excellent journalist by name Nina Teicholz who wrote an excellent book you may know this book The Big Fat Surprise

08:22 And she was appointed to this government agency but there is so much pushback from the other members who are all industry related. They all threatened to quit if she got onto the committee. And why are they upset with her? Because she has written an excellent book dispelling the notion that fat is bad, fat is good but we have been educated into ignorance over the last 50 years or so that fat is bad and we should take a statin drug cholesterol's bad and it causes heart disease nothing could be further from the truth No industry will do whatever they can to buy the influence through the research to make their point known and there's really very few people out there that are supporting the private industry of the people who understand what we should be eating. Open my book does help in that regard right yeah it definitely did for me,

09:21 And I do want to get into that, what people should be eating. But to go back to the history just a little bit, I like that you have the example of the Native Americans in the book and it kind of is a good case study for dietary change and what the data tells us. Tell us a little about the Native Americans as an example of the dangers of sugar? Yes well i practice in scottsdale arizona and the reservation is near few blocks away in the salt river indian reservation, can they have the highest rate of amputation in the world fifty percent of their adults going to have an amputation from diabetes.

10:03 which is interesting because when you look back in the 1800s, 1830's when they were placed on reservations. They were hunter gatherers and they hunted buffalo and they ate meat. They did have some staples in local tribes but basically they were meaters and they were very lean because they had to be cause they lived off the land once we put them on a reservation we fed them wheat lard and sugar. And now they are probably the largest people on the planet, it's very common for them to be 400 pounds and they are essentially all diabetic. Diabetes is not a genetic disease and that's what we were taught

10:47 Just a segue to the American Indian, when I was first studying this problem. I was asked by the Surgeon General of Taiwan to go into their country to figure out why they were getting diabetes And this was nineteen eighty one eighty two area and when i got there essentially no one had diabetes there but they noticed a few people that did now they're just like we are in the nineteen eighties they didn't, but I spent several weeks there went all over the country and. I did notice that their culture did not have sugar in it. They didn't have desserts, they didn't have anything that we would consider to be processed food but in 1979 the first fast-food restaurant was opened and two years later they were wondering why they had diabetes so its a diet related but not genetic related and at one of these

11:49 meetings that they had for me, and they had a big banquet. And they have people come in and the native dancers from an island off of the coast of Taiwan which is called Luan. They were endemic to the area and they dressed exactly like American Indians. They had head dresses and moccasins and bow-and-arrows and they were endemic to that Island. I was struck by their looks And i thought they were genetically related to the american indian and indeed subsequent testing has proven that they are so. There's a group of people did not have diabetes there were in damage to their

12:34 their culture and their eating habits. Once you introduce the American processed food, then they become diabetic and that's exactly what happened to the Salt River in the Pima Indians in Arizona so yes genetics do play a role but it's the food its really very simple is sugar and specifically high fructose corn syrup from my opinion Well, so let's talk about fruit because I've been trying to offset my cravings for processed sugar and candy and desserts with fruit but according to the book I might not be doing enough there because fruits changed in the past couple decades too right?

13:12 Absolutely. Forty years ago, a grapefruit most people either put salt or sugar on the grapefruit because it was too tart and the reason it was hard because that's what normal fruits are fairly tart but over the last 50 years we've hybridized them meaning that we have grown them to be sweeter and sweeter and sweeter because that's what people want and now its available every every day at the local grocery store so we can eat fruit everyday. But culturally and paleontology points out that we don't each fruit, we only eat fruit when we want to gain weight and it does a good job because fruit, fructose has insulin response and we will put weight on and thats its job to put fat on your body

14:00 Wow That's kind of funny because I thought I was doing a healthy thing recently by Blending up a shake in the morning and putting protein powder in it And you know, it's mostly fruit with a little bit of vegetables But I've been noticing I'm gaining weight even more so than when I had a pretty fast food related diet and I wondered why but I mean I guess all the sugar and the protein powder is kind of Might be responsible for that. Even though I thought I was doing a healthy thing Well, that's what most people think because that is what we are taught to do. The food pyramid is the instrument that educates us on what to eat and fruits and vegetables and grains are on the bottom of a pyramid and they're loaded up with sugar. The only way you can gain weight is to have insulin response and only carbohydrates and sugar will produce that.

14:50 when you eat fat or meat, although it has a little bit of insulin response is negligible. So we're not going to store that energy as fat so to eat fat is to get thin Mark Hyman actually just came out with the book what that title eat fat, get thin and seems to be the absolute opposite of what we were taught. And as you notice in my book I say we are educated into ignorance by the food pyramid, by the USDA which is really nothing more than farmers influencing the federal government to sell more of their food now they can't blame them but they're getting away with it and we have to have transparency when

15:36 When you talk about conspiracy theorists, this is probably the biggest conspiracy theory in America today. I think it's why Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump are way up there in the polls because America knows they've been had and they're digging into it. There's something rotten in Denmark and it starts with food. One of the points that have my new book that I'm writing A question I always had, and i'll start with this question. Back in the 50s there was a gentleman by the name of Willie Sutton and he liked to rob banks for a living and he was in and out of prison and one day somebody asked him, said, Willie why do you rob banks? And the answer was because that's where the money is so it's a real simple answer right So I asked the question to myself why do politicians go to Iowa

16:32 And the answer is, that's where the money is. And you would think Iowa? How could there be any money in Iowa? Well, that's where the farm bill starts. The farm bill was $1 trillion dollars not a billion, a trillion dollars and the candidates go to Iowa if they're going to support the farm bill, they get the money that they don't. They are not supported and Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump are not supported by the Farm Bill but the rest of the candidates are so You just follow the money stream it goes down the farm bill that trillion dollars goes to the national institute of health and that's where the grants are given to support or disprove the sugar is good or bad. And then it goes to school lunch program it goes to the food for peace it goes too,

17:20 many many different agencies including the snap program which is the food stamp program and it goes on and on and on so you can buy a lot of influence with a trillion dollars. Wow yeah i wanted to talk about more those, issues in depth but when you start hearing about the dangers of sugar and getting in the mindset that it's more of a toxin rather than something we should consider a food group I mean what the hell is the FDA doing? The false sense of safety that they give, I mean its almost criminal at this point. Well, I think you're absolutely right. It is criminal because we have these agencies to protect us and they obviously it had been bought now let's look at the cholesterol issue. We all know that cholesterol is bad for your heart correct? How do we know that because we were taught that and it's absolutely not true 50% of people are admitted to a hospital who have high cholesterol

18:18 The other 50% have low cholesterol, has nothing to do with heart attacks but two-thirds of those patients have either metabolic syndrome and or diabetes. It's sugar that is causing the massive coronary vascular disease in our country. Recently Scalia, Judge Scalia died of a massive coronary and he was diabetic and I was just writing one of my new chapters For the new book which was dead is a bad symptom. And what i mean by that is cardiac arrest it's sudden and may not have any symptoms prior to it, that are at least related to the disease process but if you look at sugar as a poison your being slowly poisoned to death

19:07 And the reason is, is because it's ruining your B vitamins and thiamine in particular. It's interesting that arsenic, also a poison that you can die slowly from is sweet. That's why it was the poison of choice in the early 1900s because it wasn't detectable and people would keep eating the sweet nice poison. Well I think our diet is sweet nice poison in form of high fructose corn syrup affecting the same biochemical pathways as arsenic So, it's a huge problem. My book talks about the effects of sugar on nerves and the biochemistry of nerve compression. So when I first started to write the book that was the

19:57 The theme of the book but i got into it i realized that had to dispel this fat evil companion to sugar. That is good long as its grass fed and it's a mega three versus omega six which is all other chapter in the book So, it's all interrelated. So one doctor is telling you one thing have your cholesterol checked and put on a statin drug and then I come along to say well your peripheral neuropathy is caused by sugar and you shouldn't be on a statin drug because you shouldn't be eating sugar, you should be eating more fat now what could be more confusing than

20:36 than that statement. Right, and that cholesterol myth is so pervasive I know...I mean i'm 30 years old my parents are both getting up there in age and they're worrying about their health more and I hear them repeating those cholesterol myth type things and you know you try to combat it as best you can but that generation in particular has really just gotten a raw deal in terms of true dietary nutritional information The cholesterol thing gets pretty severe because I've heard you say that it actually reduces IQ, which some people might be pretty surprised by.

21:14 Well, I do a little political joke when I'm giving lectures and it's true. The higher your IQ the higher your cholesterol. The lower your IQ the lower your cholesterol so it depends on what group I am talking to but if this continues then everybody will be voting for Obama. That is funny. It gets about 50% laugh depending on... But the point cholesterol is necessary for brain function and depriving the brain and or the heart cholesterol is causing damage. It's a twenty nine billion dollars a year drug now,

21:56 they can influence who writes the papers now if i went to an age and said i'm gonna write a paper on the evils of cholesterol and statin drugs they would not find me or if they did fun it wouldn't get printed. These agencies are dominated by private industry here in some, And another interesting thing, because the book is largely about nerve damage related to sugar and some of the deeper stuff is a bit over my head. But one example that is really interesting as carpal tunnel syndrome talk to us about that and how it might have more to do with sugar than keyboards necessarily?

22:36 Well, that's one of the issues that got me started in this correlation between carpal tunnel and peripheral neuropathy and the other neurodegenerative diseases. I trained with Lee Dellin who is a professor of neurosurgery and plastic surgery at Johns Hopkins and he is the one that influenced me many years back on this subject Carpal tunnel of the wrist, a lot of your listeners probably know this disease but it's the median nerve at the wrist and it operates the index finger in the thumb. And this starts with some numbness and tingling and eventually you lose motor function. The surgery is very effective to cut the ligament to allow the nerve to be uncompressed or decompressed

23:24 But when I was talking to Lee Dillon from Hopkins about this, and he was writing papers back in the 70's and 80's on this subject. And the prevailing wisdom is the typewriter was being phased out and the computer keyboard was coming in at about the early 70's What they thought was that the prevalence of the keyboard was causing the nerve compression which strictly a mechanical issue But unbeknownst to them in 1974, high fructose corn syrup was introduced into the diet and that coke that was sitting next to the keyboard probably had more influence on nerve compression than mechanics. The mechanics of a typewriter are magnitudes higher than a computer keyboard but they magnitude sugar going into the system is

24:19 is what I think is the problem. Prior to 1960, there were only 12 recorded cases in the literature on carpal tunnel. Today last year there were 500,000 carpal tunnel surgeries done. Jeez! I think it's the diet. Yeah that makes so much sense Of course. So then I was on a quest to try to figure this out, so I discussed this with Dr. Dellon 15 years ago and he says well why don't you figure it out? And I said well I'll start reading the literature that I never read and I found Dr. John Cook who is a vascular biologist at Stanford and also a cardiologist

25:07 And he was working on a molecule called asymmetric dimethyl arginine big word but bottom line what it is blocks the blood supply to dinner i thought that interesting so i text him about ten years ago and he called me on the phone the same day you got the email. And he said, I think you have something come up here. We'll look at it so i tested lots of my patients with that molecule that he was studying and we found correlations not only between carpal tunnel diabetic neuropathy but MS ALS and lots of different neuro degenerative diseases So that brought me to the

25:48 thought that all these diseases are the same. The biochemistry is the same on any patient who was eating a lot of sugar and it causes nerve compression, now usually first manifest in the foot then I went back through history of patients many many many patients and they all had subtle symptoms migraine headaches gallbladder disease a perfect example when i was subjected to that one as my myself. My mother had her gallbladder out, I had my gallbladder out and i was thinking how could there be a connection between gallbladder and nerve damage? We're taught not to eat fat that's what a gallbladder disease is it's really absolutely the opposite you have to stop eating sugar you need fat so

26:40 So the nerve, I looked at all these different nerves in the body from ALS to Alzheimer which absolutely is sugar. And my speculation is that autism is as well they're all different nerves they all have an end organ that appears to be different. The toe has a mechanical receptor and the eye has a photoreceptor and one of them really interest me was autism because the prevalence of autism in 19 or excuse me 2000, what is about 16 burst per 10 thousand last year was one and 50. Now that's an epidemic that's unbelievable and now alzheimer's which i think it just a different nerve alzheimer's is

27:28 the olfactory nerve, the sense of smell. Most people think Alzheimer's is loss of memory which it is but their only symptom is loss of smell because the olfactory nerve is that nerve for our nose so you're gradually getting nerve compression at least this is my theory and then gradually you lose your memory, it's all due to sugar. There is a great book by David Perlmutter who is a neurologist that wrote brain-brain and now he has new one Brain Maker and he comes to that conclusion as well but my book is different in the sense that I'm linking

28:08 all the nerves to the same process. It's just the end organ is different, so the symptoms are different and I think that's what happens with autism So, I mean that's another big subject but i think it needs to be fully explored because 1 in 50 births is an alarming number. It is and it's not their fault. Alzheimer's yes maybe you're eating a lot of sugar you know you're doing it and that's the end damage self-inflicted to some degree but a lot of it is inflicted not knowing

28:47 But for a kid born into autistic spectrum disorder, that's a lifelong disability. That is not their fault and allow this food to be in our diets Is is criminal as you say right and the autism link is a pretty big bombshell has been a conspiracy show autism everybody knows it's on the rise the typical scapegoat, is vaccines cuz people try to think of what happens around those years where people get autism. And that's kind of thing people go to but when you learn about sugar and you think of it as a poison it gets really dark inside to think that

29:28 parents have a healthy child and are slowly poisoning their own kids and destroying their cognitive function. I mean, there's really no other way to put it if that is the link Dr. Kahne Well, I think what I've learned on the autism spectrum disorder is really a preconception problem. The parents are eating a lot of sugar most pregnancies in United States are not or they don't happen under strict diet. They happen with most likely six pack of beer and pizza that's the planning. I have a friend who

30:07 fertility specialist OBGYN especially, he has his patients who want to conceive who can't go on a very strict diet and very clean diet. He has over 900 births and not one of them has autistic spectrum disorder. Wow! And yes so I think it is a preconception problem it's a genetic problem from both the male and the female there There's a neuro neurologic center in the arizona called barrows and there is no geneticist there who feels the same as i do. Add it causes a genetic problem and it,

30:55 believe, changes the genes that causes a protein not to be put down at a specific day after conception. And that protein is at the base of the brain and it causes a compression of the hypoglossal nerve And that's the nerve that innervates the tongue for speech and that is first symptom of autistic spectrum disorder. So I think it's a nerve compression secondary to high fructose corn syrup. Now back to the vaccine because its thought that mercury might be implicated in there, surprisingly high fructose corn syrup is made with mercury as catalyst for

31:42 sodium hydroxide, that's how the corn is separated from the sugars. So mercury is a big part of the high fructose corn syrup mechanism now In the United States, they're starting to phase that mercury process out. But it was used in the food and there's some studies that have shown a third of that 80% of high fructose corn syrup is in all foods has mercury in it. Mercury is a neurotoxin so it could be the other link. Wow! Man yeah maybe we had the chemical right but just the delivery method was off

32:23 So, you mentioned Dr. Dellen and you do write about this leading nerve surgeon in the book and you mention a conversation that you had with him where he asks why do you podiatrists cut out the nerves of people's feet? And you reply that it is just kind of what we do! It highlights something that I think is really important and it's applicable to so many different areas, but the public assumes that because someone has a certain degree or credential that they're an expert in an authority. But if their training or information is incorrect or tainted by any of the millions of factors out there big business in particular, their expertise kind of becomes a lot less valuable. And this is something that we see as a huge problem in the medical world isn't?

33:03 Totally. And Dr. Dillon, who's a plastic surgeon by training asked me that question because he is the world's leading peripheral neurosurgeon and I did not know that fact because we were taught that as a fact so i never read the original paper by Thomas Morton which was in the 1800s He read the original paper because he didn't know the subject quote unquote as well as i did so he did original primary research which is there's a difference being told something and learning it from a different point of view and that was an epiphany for me because i was embarrassed i never read the paper and to compound that thomas morton

33:51 I practiced it in Philadelphia at the Pennsylvania Hospital, the exact hospital that I trained at and I didn't know that fact. Now he was there in 1800 so a few years later but I never met him but he is the first one to do that procedure and he essentially just cut out – he actually cut out the bone, the nerve just about anything in the area they'd hurt and that does work you know? I'm happy wasn't treating headaches would have done the same thing. So that's how medicine evolved by trial and error, so the science behind it is passed on from one generation to the next we need a whole fresh new approach but now the government's involved they do the training they tell us what are facts and that science is very very suspect you have to read

34:45 the bibliography, you got to know who funded this study and what the conclusions were. Now for instance this morning story that I just started talking about in the beginning of this she's an excellent scientist there is no question about it but she worked for Kellogg then the beverage industry now for the potato research in education, The Alliant if you can imagine that. And she...I looked up some of her papers one of the papers was she compared the BMI, the metabolic index on kids and their consumption of sugary drinks. And it was a really well-done paper. You know what our conclusion was? No correlation! Amazing huh?! So kids could eat all drink all the sugary drinks they want and they would not get fat

35:36 That is absolutely ridiculous, but that a fact that will be taught and is taught. And we'll go to Congress as one of the basics for why we have the food pyramid. There's this Bible that they use it's called Nutrition Evidence Library I find that rather interesting title, so think of it. Nutrition Evidence Library Only those evidence to support your hypothesis go in that anything to the contrary doesn't. So its kind like the Bible you know King James Version or whatever your religion is You don't want any information thats going to contradict your premise

36:21 So it never gets into the Bible. And of course you believe the Bible, that's your faith and you...and that's what Congress uses so their faith and reliance is that bad is bad and cholesterol is the enemy, it needs to be stamped out. And the pharmaceutical companies took in 29 billion dollars last year doing a great job of getting America on statin drugs. So they They did it and but i think bernie and donald think there's something rotten out there in america and they're absolutely right. We can get into the solution for the problem i think this solution to the problem is really just transparency labeling industry should not dictate what is on the label. They were proud of genetically modified foods which is another part of this

37:18 equation, then why would you not want to put it on the label? I would be proud of it. This food contains genetically modified organisms and we're going to charge more for because they are the greatest thing ever for your health." Why don't they say that? They don't want you know what because they know is absolutely not true Man, so food labels of course they're super confusing and hard to read today because we don't have that transparency. Do you have any tips or advice for better understanding the current food labels? Dr. Kahne – I do, because patients ask me all the time what should I eat and I say it's very simple if it tastes good don't eat it and I'm being facetious but what I mean is unless you read the label, if it tastes good probably has sugar in it so let's see easiest way to re-label not be added sugar or anything else just look at that total carbohydrates

38:16 divide by 4 and that's how many teaspoons of sugar will be in that food. Like a bagel has about 48 grams of carbohydrates, 12 teaspoons is sugar equivalent. That's a lot of sugar when maybe your max for the whole day should be 6 teaspoons so So you have twelve right there well i'm a girl can't get can't do that much damage will take you about two hours jumping on the trampoline to burn up their energy. One bagel with nothing on it is that worth it i don't think so no they do they do taste great though i will give it back

38:54 That's the problem is I could probably go without sugar, but then if we include carbohydrates and pasta and cereal then it gets really limiting. And maybe you can break this down a bit further and tell us what you would eat in say a three day period because a lot of people need some variety in the same thing every day gets a bit boring What does a good like three-day diet look like to you? Well, to me you have to break that sugar habit in any form. So how do you do that? You got to put fat back in your diet once you put fat back and you won't be hungry I did because i was a sugar hawk not knowing it yet if you look at me, you say that i wasn't but i thought well just not eat any bread pasta or anything else for two week period extremely difficult to do because you go into depression your constant hunger so what i did since i like coffee i put butter in my coffee.

39:51 That's the easiest thing to do if you like coffee and if you like butter it has to be grass fed butter. And just a teaspoon or so, and instantly your not hungry. You'll have tremendous energy and if you're overweight, you're gonna lose a pound today. So my diet will really kind of is two cups of coffee in the morning with butter maybe I'll have lunch if I do it's going to be a salad and really not much and dinner would be a steak or pork chop or something like that maybe some green vegetables but that's pretty much it but I'm not hungry

40:34 you'll lose weight. So once you lose weight, then you require less food and your energy levels will go up so you're going to stay pretty thin the biggest problem with eating a fat-based diet is that you will start to lose too much weight and then you have to start to think oh what can I eat to gain some weight? The answer is eat some fruit, eat a potato that'll do it but but then you start to get hungry again. So, you need good fats in your diet like coconut oil is a perfect one that's the perfect fat olive oils are good avocados are good and I love butter so i'd like to put butter in my coffee and that for me it's the easiest thing to do

41:20 Yeah, I've been using a whole lot of butter grass fed. Of course when I make a steak also grass-fed But it's just getting a variety because I've had so many steaks and like huh? I got to get something else in here but you know i'm not even really a coffee drinker because I just don't crave it and it isn't typically considered necessarily good for you, but the grass-fed butter and the diet trend is getting more and more popular. I mean funny enough, I think the last health related show I did was with Dave Asprey about a year ago or so talking about the whole bulletproof coffee thing. But if you're not really a coffee drinker is it better to just keep it out of your diet? Or are these benefits such a net positive that it should be considered regardless?"

41:59 I'm thinking it's a net positive. Now the Tibetans use tea mixture with yak butter, if you have a yak around that would be...I don't know what that tastes like but basically the theory is you need Fats the body operates on fat never it doesn't operate on sugar and we've been taught that it does. It absolutely does not Carbohydrate is not a essential nutrient Repeat that. If you never had another carb in your life, you would be healthier and healthier. That's the ketogenic diet. Right! So that's what it... so that's the cancers link looking back Otto Warburg got the Nobel Prize in 1933 for his work on what do cancer cells eat? And they eat fructose to each sugar

42:56 And when you deprive them of sugar, they produce ketones and ketones will kill cancer cells. That's so interesting. Why don't we know that? It was 1933! So, we give them chemotherapy, give them Ensure to keep their weight up which is really nothing but sugar in the hospital and then we do PET scans to see if this cancer has come back because the PET scan is really measuring amount of sugars being used in the cell at mitochondrial level. So that's kind of silly. I tell my patients it's like You have roaches in the kitchen. Yes, you spray the roaches with raid but never clean up the sugar and go back six months later Do you think the Roach's will be back? Absolutely that's cancer Yeah

43:46 Yeah, I mean that's not my field but my field is nerves and peripheral neuropathy. But when i did the research for this book, I came up with all these things that are ingrained in my mind as to be truce which are absolutely just anecdotal evidence that has been passed down over the years And it's a shame. Can you imagine going forward? Here is the typical woman in her 40s or 50s, she has breast cancer caused by sugar and she got a kid with autistic spectrum disorder and one of her parents has Alzheimer's. How that person area? That's America!

44:32 God, man. It is it is those the big things that people are getting and when you put it like that It can all be affecting one family and it's as simple as cutting sugar out of the diet I mean You've you talked about in the book that you've had to amputate legs before you deal with that Amputee taking feet and limbs and that is how bad The addiction is? I mean if you had a relative that was so addicted to cocaine or marijuana or alcohol that they were getting limbs removed. Of course, alcohol is related to sugar too but you would be like man you got a serious problem but we just kind of allow people to be addicted to sugar and it's not treated nearly as seriously? No its not But I think our culture is mass media culture very few people read books and if they do they tend to read novels so this book is not a novel

45:25 My next one, I think we're trying to put it more over to the conspiracy that people like conspiracies which is probably the biggest one going. How did it happen? My agent in New York his name is Al Zuckerman when I wrote this book he's called Mr Big because he's the agent of Stephen King, Stephen Hawking just about any big writer and I was amazed that took my book but He was really behind the project and he wants my new book to be very similar to Michael Lewis's book, which is The Big Short. He is the agent for Michael Lewis. And he says you gotta humanize this more if you have too much science in the book so I'm gonna try to write it that way when being rewritten as we speak and It Is The Big Short that most people don't understand

46:20 mortgages, derivatives but they do understand the damage that it caused by the misinformation and there can't be any more misinformation than food. We are taught that medicine is going to correct everything? Absolutely not true! This diabetes medicine myth is ridiculous all these medicines do or allow us to eat more sugar every one of the medicines even insulin Type 1, if you're born without a pancreas. Yeah! You're gonna die unless you have insulin. Everything else is type 2 and self-induced and first thing to do is stop the sugar I mean completely but they don't. They give them metformin, glipizide everything conceivable drug you can think of now the new one

47:12 Can you try to pump the sugar out of your urine so you can eat more sugar that's really what it is and we're paying for it through our medicare which is broke. Are security system is broke right all because this misinformation that's true Well, Doc that pretty much brings us to the end of the line. I very much appreciate you being here a lot of doctors and nutritionists kind of avoid my request because to be on a show that is comfortable being called a conspiracy show they sometimes opt out and instead go on uh... you know the health and diet theme programs which in my opinion is kinda just preaching to the choir

47:50 The people who don't have diet and nutrition on their radar, those are the ones that need to be reached. So hopefully we're doing some good stuff because if people are going to start screaming about chemtrails and vaccines but yet they're drinking soda and eating fast food I mean they're kind of missing a crucial element of damage that's being done to them. So I do appreciate it, big thanks and maybe before we go you could remind people about the book where to get it and anything else you might want them to know to follow up on you in your work Well, I have a website sugar crush the book. It just came out in paperback form about a month ago and Amazon picked it as number one new release Barnes & Noble has it and most of the private bookstores have it as well awesome while you're doing a noble thing thanks again and I hope some of us been scared straight today keep doing what to do out there I appreciate being on your show you're doing a great job thanks

48:51 Boom people, Dr. Richard P Jacoby really intelligent and accomplished guy We all know sugar is bad I don't think we're shocking anybody here but i think the way Dr. Jacoby reframes this situation could cause a few aha moments out there I know I loved the little history lessons I loved the Native American data The little realization that neither fruit nor wheat are the same as they used to be Also, to read about these links to bad allergies and restless leg syndrome. These are the two biggest ongoing issues for me I realize they are minor compared to a lot of people so i've just learned to live with them But this show kind of woke me up that maybe my diet is responsible for these things And it isn't just part of life that you know You got to have something wrong with you and the truth Is i'm not going to just be able to cut back a little here skip a day there It's gotta be a real life change

49:43 We all gotta realize that, because when Dr. Jacoby laid out the scenario of a person who's diabetic who has a kid on the autism scale and a parent with Alzheimer's and this can all be linked to sugar I mean you've got to be fucking kidding me guys ya know? But the links to my specific semi-conditions really did help If you have allergies, before you take in carbs or sugar think about how annoying your allergies are and imagine that not eating that cupcake or drinking that coke would be more effective than just taking a Benadryl later. That's been really helping me with the struggle this week

50:19 But a lot of people have this mindset, I know i've been guilty of it where we think oh well stop when it becomes a problem. I can just eat junk food for now or smoke cigarettes for now but as soon as any real red flags go up ill just stop But that is such a mind game because if you don't have the willpower to quit now, why would you have it then? It's better to spend a couple of months going through a major overhaul of slipping up here and there. The ebb and flow of breaking in addiction Going through all of that but eventually finding a balance before anything goes seriously wrong What's the point of eating right if you're already kind of broken and can't truly experience the benefits Of doing it right

50:59 And we gotta think about the younger generations too. I mean, we gotta teach our kids better habits! Every kid's gonna have some sugar. Indulgences are a fun part of life you don't have to tell me twice but let them know hey this is really really bad for you and if you want to grow up big and strong you need to limit this as much as you can Is that so bad? How many parents have actually just said that to their kids and explained it. Talk to your kid like they're a little person, they're capable of understanding It's not right to let them just form these bad habits and have to figure it out later or just say no because you said so We went over the education conspiracy we went over the capability of young kids Make them wiser don't make them wander around in ignorance there is no reason

51:46 But it is something most Americans are going to struggle with. I spent two weeks in Europe, two weeks in Armenia... Yeah they do not have the same problems we have! I grew up in the American Midwest in the 90's Is there any better epicenter for forming bad dietary habits? But it's hard, so what? I think that is another problem in life at this point. Most of us don't accomplish hard tasks enough and i'm not talking about mastering Fallout 4. I am talking about learning to work on your own car, building something from scratch, cooking restaurant quality dishes, writing a book

52:23 Let's face it, most of our jobs suck but they are easy. Then we come home day after day and just veg out until it starts again is that going to be your legacy? Keeping life easy staying soft and going quietly into the night But a lot of major accomplishments are hard. I hear so many people say, oh well i just have no musical ability. Well in the 20 or more years you've been on this planet how many hours have you dedicated to a musical instrument? To say that you have no musical ability! People say, Oh I'm a terrible artist. How many hours have you sat down learning to do art?!

53:00 How many courses on drawing fundamentals have you taken? Probably none. So all these people use these excuses, oh I'm just not talented in that area... Well Michael Jordan didn't even make his fucking high school basketball team! It isn't about natural born talent all the time in fact most of the time I think it's not. It's about hard work and we just don't do that We've gone soft. In the Plus show I had mentioned Tim Ferriss and some of these efficiency biohacking and human optimization guys, they're really inspiring and motivating to me something they've talked about is before you get out of the shower in the morning turn the water to the coldest temperature for the last 30 seconds or minute before you get out

53:45 The science seems to show that it has a huge cognitive benefit. It really gets your blood flowing, gets your energy levels up all that good stuff so I've been doing it for the past month or so and it really does work! It sounds a bit goofy but when you think about it your whole day is going to seem so easy by comparison because honestly what about a typical humdrum American life is going to be more difficult than taking freezing cold water on your naked body for 45 seconds. Almost nothing, right? So it puts you in a weird mind state of I'm a bad motherfucker and i'm ready to rear naked choke the hell out of this day. And all you did was turn a knob, it's a nice little hack and it really really does suck when its happening but for the next 8 hours your probably going to feel great! It is solid trade off, id say give it a try

54:38 Either way, I hope this show helped the ones who do struggle with diet. I know I get a lot of shit for not carrying XXXL shirts with conspiracies Once a week at least someone will complain but the truth is firstly to give me shit for that suggests that all these other brands have XXX sizes and that is just not true so I don't know why people are surprised when I don't I know there can be several reasons why someone might need a XXX shirt, but I'm willing to bet that 9 out of the 10 people don't have their diet dialed in correctly.

55:13 Or they don't really exercise. Or maybe they over-over exercise, in which case... you know slow down buddy Anyway but instead of thinking about some of those things and looking internally They complain to me I've gotten accused of discrimination over this But honestly we live in a world Of small Medium Large Extra large And I'll give you extra extra large as a buffer But if you need a shirt that is an extra, extra, extra large to cover your body you really need to take a good internal look at why you are so far off the mark. Instead of whining about a clothing brand

55:56 that doesn't cater to what really is an enormous size. Not to be rude, enormous is just another word for extra-extra large right? But again we've gone soft physically mentally emotionally and I think we need to withstand some cold showers hear some harsh words and face some uncomfortable truths otherwise we just don't get better I also thought some of the added facts about diabetes were interesting. The good doctor had mentioned that it's not hereditary, it's dietary and when you think about it of course the two get mixed up because our dietary habits are formed in the family so the quote-unquote disease isn't hereditary but the mechanism that causes it certainly is

56:41 And think about that. Think about how you look and what sort of message that sends to your own kids and family It's important, but culturally we've nerfed all of our language and especially when it comes to weight and diet Would anyone be surprised if there were meetings a few years ago in the Pepsi Hershey's and McDonalds boardrooms where they said Look, people are getting super fat and it's because of our foods. And the data shows that jokes comments and social commentary on obesity are on the rise This is bad for business We need to really push this new term fat shaming and really create this culture of safe spaces and push back against those criticisms as prejudice You know what I'm saying? I could see that meeting taking place dozens and dozens of times

57:26 So let's lose all that and have those difficult conversations. You get the idea! If you have a problem with diet, you know it and you need to toughen up and change it Are you going to be so weak that your beaten by cupcakes pizza and cola? Nah otherwise what is the point Well guys if you want to hear my second hour of talk with Dr Jacobi and all the great guests on THC signup for the PLUS membership at thehighersidechatsplus.com And that's gonna be it for me. I've done what i can and today, It's your move dear listeners Your fucking move No one knows what its like to be the bad man To be the sad man behind blue eyes And no one knows what is like to be hated To be faded To telling only lies

58:40 But my dreams aren't as empty As my conscience seems to be I have hour only lonely Since they exposed me on THC No one knows what it's like

59:19 To feel these feelings like I do And I blame you No one bites back as hard on their anger None of my pain and woe can show through But my dreams aren't as empty As my conscience seems to be I have hours always lonely Since they exposed me from THC But my dreams aren't that empty

1:00:59 As my conscience seems to be I have hours always lonely Since they exposed me on THC No one knows what it's like To be the bad man, to be the sad man Behind blue