Wednesday, 17 December 2025

DoeNut | Methylene Blucifer, 2026 Ritual Sacrifice, & WiFi Mantis Beings

A deep dive into the blue-tinted rituals of the global elite reveals a hidden agenda connecting Denver’s Blucifer statue to 5G-enabled interdimensional entities.

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About this episode

Conspiratorial researcher Donut joins Greg Carlwood to expose a digital rapture being orchestrated by Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, and the global elite. The discussion centers on the 'Blucifer' statue at Denver International Airport and its creator Luis Jiménez as the foundation for a modern techno-pseudo religion. This emerging mystical authority seeks to frame transhumanism and AI as a new spiritual reality, using blue-themed ritual sacrifices to shepherd humanity into a controlled, code-based existence.

Recent public events serve as the backdrop for this alchemical transformation, including the 2024 Paris Olympics opening ceremony and the viral use of methylene blue by RFK Jr. Donut identifies the 'blue tongue' social media trend and performances by Beyonce and Katy Perry as symbolic imprinting designed to harvest emotional loosh. The narrative connects the death of Kobe Bryant in Corona Del Mar to the number 33 and the 5G infrastructure push under the Trump administration. These technological shifts, documented in White House security papers from 2018, allegedly facilitate the manifestation of interdimensional Mantis beings through Wi-Fi frequencies.

Beyond the geopolitical scripts in Venezuela and the BRICS nations, the conversation explores the steganography of The Economist magazine and the 2026 Black Swan astrology. Donut details personal experiences with astral soul surgery and the psychological toll of deep-state research. The session concludes with an analysis of Charles Dellschau’s 19th-century airship drawings and their eerie links to the Trump family name.


CHAPTER 01 / 16 Discussion

Introduction to Donut and Modern Techno-Pseudo Religion

Host Greg Carlwood introduces conspiratorial content creator Donut to discuss the intersection of elite beliefs and emerging technology. The monologue highlights recent public statements from figures like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, and Joe Rogan regarding AI, ketamine, and transhumanism. Carlwood posits that the ruling class is attempting to frame a digital rapture as a new mystical authority to shepherd humanity into a controlled code-based reality.

donut· elon musk· peter thiel· joe rogan· techno-spirituality· transhumanism

00:00 The planet's puppet masters almost surely have a plan. There clearly may be something there beyond the realm of men and until we've thoroughly tested every last close-chested view, I find the more we think we know less we are such as a rumpelstiltskin

00:49 Serenity now, Hiresight Chatters. Doing the thing from the Sunshine State I'm Greg Carlwood And we know the elite have some strange beliefs and as they try to incept the public into at least some of them things have been getting much weirder Elon Musk trolling people about being an alien vampire and making public appearances on ketamine Peter Thiel doing lectures on the Antichrist in interviews about how transhumanism is a deeply Christian concept Joe Rogan coming away from his tech bro dinners with the idea that Jesus will likely return, but as an AI. And maybe virgin birth was always code for AI! A new disclosure documentary full of career politicians and military intelligence spooks psychically driving home repeatedly that even though this has all gone on since the 1940's it is now a immediate national security threat and a new reverse engineering arms race with China is underway

01:39 It all just seems a little heavy handed and attempts to make the sale of their techno pseudo religion. And it feels a bit forced from people who aren't even good at forming sentences let alone closing the deal on a sales pitch to people who are more worried about there are eroding economic conditions in the Epstein list than learning about techno spirituality from awkward billionaires It's not exactly a new tactic either, as the Parasite Ruler classes used the illusion of divinity proximity several times before to accomplish their tyrannical goals from the Holy Roman Empire to Manifest Destiny. Now after years of harvesting our data they will present it back under the guise of something mystical and spiritual and imply that they are the new priest

02:20 class authority that can shepherd us into the cold lifeless code of the digital rapture. This does seem to be the way wind is blowing, so when today's guest Donut makes documentaries about manted beings living in a Wi-Fi network and humanity being ritually prepared in blue before the big sacrifice in the upcoming year of The Fire Horse... I guess i have to listen. If you don't know Donut, get ready! He's a conspiratorial content creator covering everything from occult symbolism hidden history and strange events to UFOs transhumanism and breakaway civilizations You can find his interviews in documentaries on YouTube as well as plenty of good stuff on his Twitter threads and all the rest of it So let's do what we do The sugar-coated conspiracy commentator well glazed Illuminati guru and wicked smart ritual revealer Donut my man welcome to THC

03:07 Oh, yo what up is donut. Thank you so much Greg I like I was saying off air my intentions when I started my channel Was to go on to THC the higher side chat So Wow, I feel like an accomplishment just being here. I really really appreciate it and thank you for that intro Ah too kind You'll have to tell us your magical repertoire because it's working I like that you brought up the Wi-Fi mantises and the Illuminati horses and all that, especially the technocracy. Yes! All of those topics are very much invested in researching

CHAPTER 02 / 16 Discussion

Illuminati Stallions, Blue Horse Symbolism, and Denver Airport

Donut discusses the recurring motif of horses in occult and elite symbolism, specifically focusing on the "Blucifer" statue at Denver International Airport. The conversation explores the 32-foot height of the statue and the death of its creator, Luis Jiménez. Further connections are drawn to horse masks in the Netflix series Squid Games and the dream sequences in Stanley Kubrick's film Eyes Wide Shut, suggesting horses represent humans being "ridden" or controlled by elites.

blucifer· denver international airport· eyes wide shut· squid games· illuminati stallions

03:46 Mm. Hell yeah, this is going to be a fun one. I know we know some of the same people like Mario from symbolic studies and paranoid American they're putting them together some great stuff too. And I think I initially just got tagged in some of the same tweets as you. And then I saw this video, the Illuminati stallions methylene, blue supper and mind control horses. And that is when I thought I should try to get you on when you stack the examples as deep as you do It's hard not to think that there is an agenda there. And I guess we will get into that one, but let me just ask you broadly about your research methodology or areas of interest because you do find a way to cover some pretty unique things in a rather crowded space. Sure. Well Jordan Maxwell was really my like introduction to the mysteries. I mean sure there was a lot of other things that happened in my life, but

04:42 stumbling across him covering the symbolism in the occult world and the hidden meanings and symbols just took me on an adventure. And then I found all these other researchers as well, and it's just been a fun journey looking into it. Sure there is the paranoia that comes but then you pretty much graduate from the paranoia. And I think thats where society sort of is today with people who weren't listening to you 14 years ago that they just woke up recently with the whole world being locked down and so there's kind of starting at you know like stage one of awakening which is, eventually we'll graduate and you could kinda laugh at everything eventually. So with mixing in

05:30 funny stuff like Illuminati stallions is just a poetic way of uncovering the symbols in a fun way, you know. So that's sort of what I do. Yeah sometimes i think you're mocking me! I'm not sure but your research is so deep that I'm like well you can't really be mocking it and also doing this deep diving because you do see these weird tapestries of connections and so it is just a fun interesting mix but Let's get into the Illuminati stallions. Most people, I think when you think about a blue horse, they know the demonic red eyed horse statue outside of the Denver airport, but just seeing it again made me curious because I hadn't thought about it in awhile and when I looked up further details did you know that it stands exactly 32 feet tall? And also the guy who created it was killed by it. A piece of it fell off in his studio and killed him

06:25 So these are just weird added details about an old statue, but talk to us about this video of yours in general and how some of these examples do stack up to suggest we're being prepared for a sacrifice in 2026 the year of the fire horse. Yeah, so that video the Illuminati stallions were piggybacking on all the different Illuminati animals. The symbol of the Illuminati is the owl when you look at their symbol. You can look up Bohemian Grove they got that owl and their symbol with the owl, their spiders don't come near whatever it says. Weaving spiders come not here? Yes! So there's animals all over these secret societies so it started off as a fun joke I literally made the Illuminati dolphins video

07:16 I was a joke and what kind of got me interested was Robert Anton Wilson's The Illuminatus Trilogy, how he had the dolphins on it. And i was like you know what people are stealing like a lot of my content which is just natural in the game? I'm going to make a ridiculous video and watch people steal it Then the more I started researching it, I'm like oh my goodness there is Illuminati Dolphins so much that there's even a Illuminati dolphin playing card on the game right? And it goes all the way back to like John C. Lilly as well and Echo The Dolphin So it was a very fun journey but There are so many different animals That are very symbolic The owl, the mantis

07:59 They're very much interconnected as a camouflage technique, which is sort of how the Illuminati operates through camouflaging. And the stallions was just another addition before the year of the horse that we're entering into—how can I make an Illuminati horse video? So we just deep dive into all the strange phenomenon surrounding horses So everyone knows Plato's cave, you know where they show the horses as the puppets in the shadows. But he has another story that is even more important of the two horses and then you have the divine twins which is like a symbol of the two horses and then you got the freaking Knights Templars riding on a horse

08:50 So the symbol of the horse is just like crazy when it comes to looking into the Illuminati, even as much as going into Eyes Wide Shut. Like that film... they have horses like all throughout it because in 007 and other shows, like the squid games. They show the importance of the elite and horses embedding on humans as horses that's even like a quote in this squid games Like I'm not a horse or something like that And they're wearing a horse mask and it's very symbolic and kind of go down these weird roads where its

09:29 Like where's the what's the strangest thing i could find and one thing that was strange was. The scene in eyes wide shut where she was recounting her a drum right her dream right it wasn't erotic dream and stanley kubrick hired an artist to draw it out any drew. Them doing it like on a horse and so like even the horse symbolism riding it wild and free is very symbolic We see that in old Bosch paintings. I think that's how you pronounce the artist name where people are riding the horse nude right, and let me throw in a few more things because

CHAPTER 03 / 16 Discussion

Methylene Blue, Blue Sacrifices, and Pop Culture Rituals

The discussion shifts to the color blue as a symbol of alchemical transformation and ritual sacrifice. Donut links the viral use of methylene blue by RFK Jr. and the "horse tranquilizer" ketamine to ancient Mayan practices of painting sacrifices blue. Recent performances by Beyonce and Katy Perry featuring blue horses and portals are analyzed alongside historical cult events like Jonestown and Heaven's Gate, which reportedly featured blue-themed elements during their final acts.

methylene blue· beyonce· katy perry· rfk jr· blue origin· heavens gate

10:11 It starts with a kind of a silly premise and maybe this is the lesson in just how connected everything really is but the blue. The color blue and horses so obviously covid ever mectin was a huge thing the horse paced Methylene blue we had this video of RFK junior putting it in his drink and it went viral like things I don't think go viral unless they want them to so you have this video that all the news networks cover. And then there's a reaction from the alternative health community about methylene blue everyone got their methylene blue videos out Then there's this video of Elon like looking off into space that I mentioned in the intro there and he supposed to be on ketamine. What is ketamine? A horse tranquilizer, so horse paced horse tranquilizer and methylene blue than the blue stuff is crazy because

11:02 I didn't know this but the video talks about blue being not only the color of transformation alchemically, but the Maya painted their sacrifices blue and even in Apocalypto if you watch that movie they paint the sacrifices blue. And you got blue light from the screens the directed energy weapons and maui they seem to spare things that were painted blue cars and rooms in houses that work painted blue or not affected by these laser beams are ever. It's just really crazy. So then it goes on further that earlier this year, Beyonce had a tour and what did she feature in the tour? But a giant 30 foot horse statue that's blue that is coming out of a portal I actually can share that my sharing of things is a little clunky but my editor is going to make it nice

11:58 Yes, yeah and so those symbols of the horses with Beyonce and Megan Thee Stallion and Cardi B It's all intertwined in the blue horse as well at the ancient Maya Sacrifices painting them blue and tying it in. And this methylene blue why is it pushed? So hard everywhere it literally turns people's brains blue when they take it So I was like there's a connection here It was sort of a viral story because as you see, look at that thing. It's going right through a portal and gateway. Yeah. Very strange! What is also important is these fricking portals like not just the horses but the portals are very very important symbolically Yes another weird one because Katy Perry has been used As a figurehead in these rituals before I think it was her who came into the VMAs

12:53 On a big lion in a red dress. And everyone's like, Oh that's the whore of Babylon being invoked right there? Well she made the news this year why because she did that blue origin flight and in her dark horse video the men are painted blue so Katy Perry right there Blue Origin Dark Horse Men Painted Blue The Wicked Movie The second one comes out this year There's a character who rides the blue horse in that movie i didn't know what i was looking at blue horse images before this started i saw like a baby and i clicked on that it said oh this is march from wicked and then i had to figure out why and that is why and then.

13:37 I thought beanie babies, isn't the princess Diana teddy bear blue? I could be making that up. It might be white. Yeah no i remember that yeah she was a sacrifice so if it is blue that's an interesting one but then you go on to say The Jonestown Kool-Aid was actually blue The Heaven's Gate cult had a transfiguration diet they were all obsessed with blueberries and they ate blueberry cheesecake before they died So again Blue and Sacrifice and Death is right there Man, I really think you found some good stuff. And then in terms of them preparing us, you know that's the case it's being made there is this weird

CHAPTER 05 / 16 Discussion

Super Bowl Rituals, Animal Archetypes, and Transhumanism

The conversation explores the Super Bowl as a massive annual ritual, focusing on the "Superb Owl" wordplay and the use of blue denim in recent halftime shows. Donut suggests that the shift from red and white to blue color schemes in performances by Kendrick Lamar and Katy Perry signifies the "new human" being built through transhumanism. The segment also touches on the use of animal memes, like the frog and Dogecoin, to onboard the masses into new financial and technological systems.

superb owl· ishtar· kendrick lamar· sidney sweeney· memes· frog

17:29 come to any conclusions about what that could mean besides, you know where I am? Which is like there's something here. But what is it? Yeah so you know I've just studied the technocracy. I study the symbolism. I study The Secret Societies and then I kind of add that into this pattern recognition of like why is this happening these portals in these blue horses like that Beyonce horse was freaking blue going through a portal And I've uncovered that these portals are very, very important as well symbolically. Like these gateways right? You got all these different gates even the word Bob, right B-A-B means gate and you got Babo and Babylon and so just tying in all of these different things this is kind

18:23 what I like to look into is the etymology and all of that. But the Super Bowl or the superb owl, right? The owl symbolism going back to that, that is super important even in this show Twin Peaks they showed this owl part of you know...that can be invisible and the cap of Minerva, the invisibility cap and connected to Athena, like there's the owl symbolism. So these symbols of these different animals are like ancient, they mean something maybe not to us but they mean something so with this Super Bowl being like The Superb Owl They do The Halftime Show and we're hearing about Sidney Sweeney's great jeans And those are those blue denim jeans I think that there is something to the blue

19:19 with transhumanism. When you look at all these different rituals at the Super Bowl, which is like the biggest ritual, they put on this halftime show where we saw Katy Perry being identical to Ishtar riding the lion just like Ishtar rides the lion in those images That they're showing from the lockdowns with the weekend all the way to now these fertility rituals and it's always been red and white for the last like five years.

19:57 And they recently put in blue into the color coding of these Super Bowl rituals with Kendrick Lamar rapping about he's got loyalty and his DNA as he's wearing these bell-bottom jeans. I believe the blue is representing like, piece of the new human being built right now going into transhuman stuff so there's a lot to it portals that go through, but it's all fascinating. But that's kind of where my mind is going right now. Right on yes and then I have done interviews in the past talking about the medical applications and the value of the blue blood of the horseshoe crab. And you mentioned that in there too? I mean just the elite being called Blue Bloods there is something there also so the biggest movie of the year right now is probably Wicked features a blue horse

20:54 The biggest movie by the end of the year will be avatar featuring blue people. Right? You also note that the SIA branch of the army, the insignia is a night from the game chess, which is a horse so yeah. I don't know, but i do like just the more you can stack up it gets pretty crazy so yeah terms of we'll go ahead and go no it's just that it's the animals in general just looking at all the animals like. The frog right we got the structure of magic and chaos magic and me medic magic or the dog write the dogecoin which is really bringing in the

21:37 You know, masses into blockchain technology. Nothing sold them until a mean did and you could even say that President Trump became the most powerful person, hypothetically because of memes. So the frog is like a huge thing as well so there's so many different animals and that's what I you know it crazy right? Well when you strip away all the tech and all the modern stuff i mean what's left you know animals in nature so of course like if these belief systems and secret societies go back centuries then that's what they had to go on

CHAPTER 06 / 16 Discussion

2026 Black Swan Astrology and Scorpio Events

Greg Carlwood and Donut analyze a video collaboration with Mario from Symbolic Studies regarding the 2026 astrological outlook. They discuss a potential "Black Swan" event tied to a Venus retrograde in Scorpio starting October 3, 2025. Donut compares the predicted economic shift to the 30-year "lost decade" in Japan, suggesting a long-term financial ritual rather than a sudden total collapse.

the economist· black swan· scorpio· venus retrograde· financial crash· 2026

22:16 a live stream with Mario from Symbolic Studies that went pretty deep on the new Economist cover. People in our world are always looking at the cover of The Economist for symbolism, and this one's quite crazy And it's just a wild tapestry of symbols syringes rockets tanks missiles robots and just. It invokes to me total chaos you know it seems like they're going to there saying that they're going to be throwing so many things at us it's hard to focus on any one thing thats been true for awhile now but you call the video,

22:53 2026 black Swan astrology, the Scorpio event. No one is ready for with symbolic studies. Do you recall what that black Swan event is supposed to be? Because as we're getting to the end of this year and we're talking about what's going to be upcoming in 2026 along with the potential preparation of a sacrifice it seems like if there would be an astrological window for something like that to occur, a Scorpio event, you know, that sends up Uh, red flags to me. Right? Well these are like very clickbait titles right you gotta get the views you know if you don't do a click bait and he can't get a view you know so it's sort of that's why I'm stuck in the lower middle! You got just write something like crazy and that's like what people like yeah i'll have to run my titles by you and you can jazz them up for me It goes into what Marshall McLuhan talks about and I haven't even read Marshall Mcluhan yet but this is what I've heard

23:50 Is that when you put people in a survival mode through these titles and make some feel special like oh my goodness i'm so important i mean the survival mode so people like that so it's very psychological the way that. the YouTube videos and the news works, and why do we participate in it? What keeps me addicted to the For You section on X which is only going to aggravate me. But why do I keep going back to it you know there's something wrong with me or I'm like why do I like being so pissed off all the time but that

24:26 video in my head what I was kind of thinking about before talking to Mario because he breaks down the symbolism. It seems like there'll be some sort of financial black swan, but that's where i'm coming from kind of what i'm thinking But I don't think it's going to be like a massive crash or something I think something like a credit crunch where it's a 30-year ritual like What happened in Japan? So like people invested in Japan and their stock market and then for 30 years, it didn't do anything It just went down and then I went back up and it took thirty years to recover And I talked to this guy who brought that up. So this is just my gut you know feelings whatnot because the astrological energy that were entering into

25:18 is kind of prime for something like that. Just listening to different astrologers, but I like what Jordan Maxwell says he's Like I'm just an ordinary guy pursuing extraordinary knowledge. Right? So, you know, kind of, I don't really know anything. I'm just kinda, yeah. I'm a good video editor so I can edit cool stuff together but yes. I even sent you a PDF too if he wanted to show like just slides on Twitter. Yeah. Okay. I'll grab that then but I was going to say cause I like to try to have some kind of answer even if the guest who doesn't know what I'm going to ask about

25:55 doesn't have a specific answer, but I looked up what it could mean just based on the astrology next year. And most likely it is referring to the Venus retrograde that starts in Scorpio which is happening on October 3rd of this upcoming year and according to the search on Scorpio they will cause a period of reevaluation areas of love relationships and finances so you do know what you're talking about yeah why listen to very very smart like podcasters and researchers and astrologers and then I start researching what they're talking about it's always been pretty good, you know leaning on the Giants in the field Yes So obviously we have a little bit of time to wait for that But it would be interesting To see to revisit this and see what happens at that time also like

CHAPTER 07 / 16 Discussion

The Economist Symbolism, Octopuses, and Hidden Pentagrams

The hosts examine the steganography within The Economist magazine covers, noting the prominence of octopuses and UFOs. Donut demonstrates how mirroring and overlaying the magazine's artwork can reveal hidden symbols like pentagrams and OTO-style occult imagery. The discussion links these visuals to the film "Nope," the character Bob from Twin Peaks, and the idea of interdimensional entities manifesting through "clouds" or portals.

the economist· octopus· pentagram· steganography· twin peaks· ufo

26:48 Time Magazine, they released this article on the Orb We'll See You Now. How we're not going to know the difference between AI and reality? Oh yeah! They released that in summertime and they said in six months and that's like where we're at now and that's why all this AI is out and no one knows what's real and what's not so they are telling us it says just read it then you're like oh that's what happening And This Economist magazine The year of the lockdowns, it talked about the importance of the aliens and UFO's but mostly the octopuses. So speaking of another Illuminati animal, the octopus... They talked about the importance of National UFO Day and the octopuses on Europa

27:39 So yeah, this is just like a PDF slide. I just put a bunch of different pictures on there on different animals that's at the island Um, were there Oh, Epstein Island. Yeah. There's this obviously it's trendy right now that the Democrats it's always framed in that way. The Democrats have released new images from Epstein Island and it's like they're not really new. Some of these are new but they're boring. Uh, some of them I've also seen before like the dentist chair that he also had a dentist chair minor stain is in his New York location. That was also a dentist chairs always a creepy detail

28:15 Yeah, there's the dolphins Illuminati card. I'll try to include these in the show notes for the audio listeners but yeah if it's an illuminate card in the card game then you know it probably means something somewhere so yeah there is a straight up dolphin one So that dolphin research that John C Lilley said in a foreword to one of his books this was a guy who went into the deprivation tank they put these dolphins on to some psychoactive type, you know medication. And then they also pleasure them through physical touch and they were doing it to communicate with the dolphins so that dolphins will go send a message to the whale and the whale would send the message down to Atlantis and that's why the government was funding him according to John C Lilly in one of his forwards in this book and just this whole connection with the dolphins and aliens

29:08 I was just like mars attacks brain i believe is the dolphin brain i believe there. Is a connection to that but you're showing in this symbol it's just all these different yeah right so marz attacks one of my favorite movies when i was a kid doesn't hold up exactly but when i was a kid i loved and i couldn't believe that had such an ensemble cast and tim burton, what do you have the. character you know the mars attacks martian with a giant brain and your saying what? You're saying that relates to the dolphin brain. I mean right there is the dolphin brain they were doing these studies oh that is a dolphin brain on the left yeah so they were doing the studies on the dolphin brain because it's most similar to us like in them with the mammals yes for people listening if you think about that Mars attacks head and the brain

30:01 it is a dead ringer for what is the dolphin brain so that is interesting movie was filmed in my neighborhood growing up and they get a film dot scene. And a mafia home and we would call that mafia house the vampire house because there was no windows in the front. But yeah, I know that was a great great movie There's also something predictive in that movie too gosh I'm not gonna get it right on the fly but don't they knock over the twin towers or some probably? Yeah No actually I think its uh...I think it's related to The Harvest Festival where the Harvest Festival shooting happened, like the UFO shoots a beam right into that spot next to the Luxor. If I recall correctly but there's a couple of things in that one. Yeah which is like in front of a pyramid yeah exactly um yes so yeah this owl thing's interesting...I just finished reading Closer Encounters book and

31:00 It was going over the word Bob, B-A-B like in Babylon mean gate and how all these UFOs are connected to portals in a lot of way. These hyperdimensional portals like this Sargasso Sea that Charles Fork talked about and that turned into the Bermuda Triangle which is a trapezoid it's not a triangle but this character in Twin Peaks his name's Bob Yeah, I mean who comes through with the portal basically he comes to a portal and then I guess he turns into an owl as well. Yeah they are not what they seem big theme in twin peaks and then of course you have long within our face and it is a pretty good match

31:44 And this is not no movie right just kinda showing the symbols of more alien stuff which shows the horses being abducted have you seen this film i have a son nope it's cinematic lee very interesting but plot wise I felt like it was super slow although in my memory there are some really interesting things with the chimpanzee that stick out but i guess i was just sitting there. I kind of on the edge of my seat waiting for something and its actually, It's a quite slow moving film but i do think there is some depth in this depiction of otherworldly intelligences and what a ufo might be and that kind of thing it is interesting. Yeah so like the,

32:26 The ending it shows the UFO there. Yeah, that's what and it looks just like an octopus you know which is a big part of the alien story that's coming out as like these octopuses are aliens from another planet right There's an owl hidden on the one dollar bill we know that also right here is the economist magazine wow that's it. Mirror image on each other i'm near and then i flipped upside down in a looks like an octopus at the very, top because there's eight tentacles cause Octo is eight, just like how October was the eighth month. But now it's 10 that is interesting man. So yeah if you take the economist cover from this upcoming season and you flip it

33:15 And you mirror image it and overlay it. I mean, it makes a pentagram right there! Look at that! Yeah there's the pentagram... Right dead center! Usually when you do this, it always has some crazy stuff but like if you look at the Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album and you do that It shows like the OTO symbolism with Crowley in all of that so It is definitely something there, you know? Yeah. I like that one. The steganography... And so, okay. Right there the cloud thing's interesting right? There is just like in the Old Testament and Exodus how the sea was split I didn't know it was through a cloud So just like... The clouds play huge role if we're tying the whole UFO agenda even going back to all of the different religions There's always this cloud that's connected which is like a UFO

CHAPTER 08 / 16 Discussion

Venezuela Geopolitics and Scripted Reality

Donut explains his previous predictions regarding Venezuela's role in the global "scripted reality." He argues that Venezuela serves as a proxy for Iran and the BRICS nations, similar to North Korea's relationship with China. The segment references an Economist cover depicting Donald Trump's shadow over South America as a signal for upcoming blackouts or political upheaval in the region.

venezuela· maduro· brics· the economist· trump· geopolitics

34:14 Let's take a break from the visuals because so many people are audio listeners. Yeah, I just, I just threw that up there. No really great. So I also this is a lot more mundane, I suppose, but certainly in the news, I wanted to ask you about Venezuela because I think everybody knows about these boat strikes that are apparently drug smugglers of course there was really no way to know just trust the system Now, usually they wouldn't even release military strike footage like this but they seem to be throwing it all over the news and that alone is kind of odd. But you recently shared an older video of yours and said in the beginning of last year here's a video where I said little Venice slash Venezuela was going to be important on the world stage and watch out for Venezuela to be used in the scripted reality

35:07 Obviously that was a good call. What did you see that made you think that Venezuela would be part of the script this year? It's a mixture of two things. I studied geopolitics before this channel, like a donut and Venezuela has always been on the news frame before politics became popular in 2016 that they America would try to replace Maduro with our own people so i've always been looking at that and geopolitically and this is very unpopular talk about I get a lot of backlash but

35:43 this is just how when I was studying geopolitics, this is just well known that Iran the BRICS nation like pretty much Iran though. The Venezuela was a proxy just like North Korea is a proxy for China and it's right on our border so right there you got all these different organizations that are there so that's kind of what I was looking at So I knew the importance of where it's at. And then on The Economist magazine, speaking of The Economists magazine, it showed Trump as a shadow is an eclipse because he's very much connected to the eclipse symbolism in astrology I think he was born on an eclipse

36:32 showing him going towards America his shadow and his mouth was on like South America and I Tied it into like some black out kind of stuff But I said but make sure the top thing is Venezuela just because if I understand how that is just big Big part of the chess game what's going on very interesting another tweet i wanted to ask you about getting more into the back into the east of terry stuff you say six years ago was the beginning of the two year rituals each ritual will target specific groups and implement. Existential threat divide the masses by these two year rituals of lush then conquer,

CHAPTER 09 / 16 Discussion

Two-Year Rituals, Loosh, and Emotional Imprinting

Donut outlines a theory that the elite conduct "two-year rituals" designed to target specific demographics and harvest "loosh" or emotional energy. He cites the COVID-19 lockdowns, the BLM movement, and the events of October 7th as examples of existential threats used to divide the masses. The discussion differentiates between traditional MKUltra mind control and "imprinting" on the autonomic nervous system through belief systems and pharmaceutical suppression.

loosh· mkultra· october 7th· blm· emotional manipulation· imprinting

37:19 Elaborate on what you're saying there. What are some examples of these two-year rituals that target specific groups? So, during the lockdown that would have been a ritual for the whole world collectively. Every single government shook hands and said yes let's do this! Let's reset the system and bring in the AI or whatever the plan was then there are certain groups that get targeted to get loosed they get emotionally like freaked out usually an existential threat So we saw BLM, right? That was like a two-year thing during the lockdowns as well. Then you had the Chinese PsyOps going on there everyone blaming them then you have the ICE stuff where it's like oh if you're Mexican Oh my goodness and then the last 2 years We had October 7th And so that's when I actually felt it because I'm Jewish and I fell I was like

38:20 Uh oh. I'm proud of it, I'll say it on all the podcasts That's how you know all this stuff! It's in the meetings! Yeah yeah... Even someone who understands how the system is playing, I was like, Oh wow okay Like I didn't watch the news for a year and then dive into it But that lasted two years as well where they ended So it's always targeting different groups and it's important to understand how one feels because this is something that has been removed from our society with the rise of narcissism and whatnot, which is just killing the emotions and killing the self. And also all of the push of big pharma like suppressing the anxieties and fears and all this...and also facts over feelings you know like Ben Shapiro says

39:19 The feelings play a big role into our own ecosystem of who we are. And being in tune with that is absolutely important to understand what's happening, because people aren't getting pushed by the media all the different alcohols and all the different, you know mind-altering substances so one can even feel how they're feeling. And Wilhelm Reich talked about it as well in Alexander Lohan and so it's... The two year rituals is each group going to get loosed like even I was like very affected by this as someone who even knows what's going on and it still affects me

40:10 There's a difference between mind control and imprinting. So MKUltra, they did mind control and people were able to shake out of the mind control if they had a solid belief system in like a structure of who they are through whatever it is, they could shake it off But the belief system is interesting because it's in our autonomic nervous system. It's not like in our mind where we can't even point where the mind is, we think it's in our head but we don't even know like there's no science really to that and the belief systems I believe are being altered you know in a big way through different you know uh belief changing substances is a good way to put...to put it. Sure! And

41:02 the belief systems, like your religion or your nationality or your football team. You can't shake this off like it's freaking there it's imprinted in us and it's able to control us so you show a symbol is able to control us through our belief systems I don't know if I'm expressing it perfectly I gotta write a book or something again my thoughts down but... Amen! And what do you have? But I also wanted to bring up this one here because people might remember obviously COVID was a big old ritual and i did a previous interview with Michael Wan about Kobe Bryant and how there is a lot of weird stuff with Kobe Bryant's death

CHAPTER 10 / 16 Discussion

Kobe Bryant Sacrifice and the Number 33

The segment explores the death of Kobe Bryant as a "kick-off" ritual for the COVID-19 era. Donut points out synchronicities such as Bryant being buried in Corona Del Mar and his high school jersey number being 33. The hosts discuss the prevalence of the number 33 in the pandemic narrative, including the reported 33 adenine residues (poly-A tail) in the viral genetic code and the age of the initial Chinese whistleblower.

kobe bryant· corona del mar· 33· grammys· coronavirus· jesuits

41:49 The helicopter crash mirrors a different helicopter crash where a CEO went down. So there's mirroring in it, which is always something to look out for, but we know he was number 33, but I guess I didn't recall how close this was to COVID and you talk about the Kobe sacrifice being something that kicked off the COVID ritual will yeah. He. He died January of 2020. So right before the COVID kickoff, and of course I was thinking about totally different things at that time but he was buried in Corona Del Mar cemetery! I mean that's a major hit and then if you look at this from your presentation

42:35 there is a cartoon now you have to tell me what car tune it is if you remember but there's a cartoon that features kobe bryant going down in a helicopter crash and right on the tail of the helicopter is a prima sonic square encompass. What the hell, So this is the Illuminati PDF I released this before my wicked smart journey, so I started a channel. I never got views ever and I started getting views during the lockdown So it's like you know what? I'm gonna write a quick little PDF and put that out there. So this came out like 2020 early on had a lot of it throughout it and

43:18 got a lot of things right, which is pretty crazy. Just from the study of geopolitics and also being such a fan of shows like yours and others... The big takeaway that I took away was he died the day of the Grammys and or the day before. And they did this ritual at the Grammy's just like Whitney Houston died during the Grammies as she was in a bathtub, right? So while the Grammys is going on these big figures are passing away it seems to be very energetic, right? It's an energetic ritual of sacrifice

43:57 And they hung his jerseys up. And if you plus the numbers of his two jerseys, it equals 32 like you were saying that 32 Of the horse who was 30 to 32 is like huge symbolism on the Jesuit symbol of this sundial. I actually think you find that a lot of times there'll be a symbol that is It can be seen as thirty two or thirty three which i think is because of that symbolic thirty third degree that no one's quite sure if it's there not the one i always go to is the mandalay bay shooting the harvest festival he was on the, thirty second floor which is the thirty third if you count the lobby which isn't counted on the actual floors so its always like it is but it doesn't and like your saying

44:45 I, so I made him. I just to correct the record here. I said he was known as being a 33. I'm not a fan of sports of any kind really 3033 on in his college. Yeah it was high school says here that he was the number 33 and he had the 666 workout i'm assuming that's like You do this six times, this six times. And I don't know what you're referencing there but yeah, you have a 666 workout that's like, oh no just like how girls have the 666 the six figures six feet? You know, uh, there's always Oh girl Yeah Girls want to find a guy who is six feet tall make six figures and then

45:24 What's the other one? Yeah, I don't know what the other one is. But there's like all those things six inches. I was gonna say that I was like, That's really like, Oh no. But you also mentioned that this guy who was a doctor in China who is a whistleblower for Coronavirus he died at age 33 Yeah, so right in the beginning of this lockdown the 33 was all over the place and I was very you know. I was smart but i was also not wicked smart And I've been on this journey since then to become wicked smart. So, I started to research like what is the Illuminati? What is Freemasonry and this book was really enlightening the phylos reply of Adolf Kennedy II in command at the Illuminati he created the Illuminati so just

46:17 Diving into the research, so that PDF is fun I think because it was sort of where I was at like a good foundation. But over the last few years I've been working really hard on reading and studying and diving deeper and it's even more interesting. It's wild but 33 was all over the place during lockdowns. It's crazy! I'll get into some crazy stuff with the 33 You're saying words so i don't know if you're gonna be but out but i've been trying to be good with my wording. No no i dont worry about it a few two cancels me then that's fine thats why i kinda managed my own thing i get really frustrated i know what i know why do it sometimes im watching your stuff and you scramble the word and i'm like, i dont know what were you even trying because its not even like the top five swear words anymore its like

47:10 Every word, Nazi COVID vaccine. I get why people do it. I hate it but you can say real words here Okay so if you look at the like code of The virus there's 33 A's in it which is weird no one's really talked about it hmm and If you look at the sequence of the code of the virus It's just like a normal code, like any other type of virus. But then at the very end it just says AAAAAA 33 freaking times! So there is a huge 33 with that lockdown on the biggest level with

CHAPTER 11 / 16 Discussion

Mantis Beings and Wi-Fi Soul Surgery

Donut details a theory from his book regarding interdimensional "Mantis" beings that travel through Wi-Fi and radio frequencies. He describes a personal experience involving "soul surgery" and astral projection while in a coma-like state. The narrative suggests these beings use the gigahertz range of modern wireless systems to navigate our 3D reality, with the rollout of 5G potentially opening more stable portals for various entities.

mantis aliens· wifi· 5g· soul surgery· astral projection· stargate project

47:53 That's the question yeah very interesting so before we run out of time in this first hour i have to go back to mantis and the wifi i mentioned that i mentioned on the intro cannot leave people hanging on something like that of course i could. Make them pay eight bucks but im not gonna do that were gonna talk about it so this is also from your book you write a wifi man just the praying mantis alien agenda, Exclamation points and interdimensional alien species that travels via the wireless fidelity system the wifi we put in place here on earth these beans have been traveling to earth since twenty fifteen to do reconstructive soul surgery on people. Do you love them from the traumas they've been through and give them an opportunity to walk the right path if they choose a travel time and space there are wireless fidelity wifi systems to heal our before the mass alien,

48:48 interdimensional invasion with the new 5G system. But first, let's explain how they travel through the Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi uses radio frequencies to send signals between devices which the Wi-Fi mantis People travel through, they could travel through AM FM radio but it was very risky and they've lost many due to the process. Wi-Fi transmits and receives data in the gigahertz range which is less risky today because they have perfected it and it's everywhere, so if they needed to abort a mission it would be rather easy because now every restaurant and household business has full speed Wi-Fi. But with the opening up of the 5G wavelength, it will also be very easy for other interdimensional beings to travel – good and evil ones – so they're transmitting their agendas now before its too late. If they traveled in the 70s when Wi-Fi was actually created by governments

49:42 Aloha net, it would have been too risky to get caught in transmission to never return home to their families again. Also it was a risk to be captured and tortured by the government and used for evil experimental purposes over the last five years since 2015 Course you must wrote this in twenty twenty they been traveling to millions of households to do soul surgery on millions and that's broken spiritually from this broken world a travel during daytime only because using the wifi system to travel is less risky they still have. Plenty of risks getting stuck in a frequency if a modem goes off or a power outage happens. They use the sun and earth synergy as backup, plan B to travel through space and time if something does go wrong. They enter the atmosphere reach your internet modem when the transmission happens for them to enter into our physical 3D reality we are put into deep coma for 10 hours!

50:36 You are conscious when this is all happening and will remember everything that happens, but from all the energy being used in the room you are asleep during the time. You will leave your body and view what is going on from your ceiling a sort of astral projection remote viewing which the governments have been doing for decades now and release declassified documents proving it's true." And then you show a screenshot from I believe The Stargate Project And how they kinda do have that map that shows like x and y axis and a head in there. Yeah it does seem like they've obviously done these kind of experiments i don't remember man to being apart of those documents but,

51:15 But I had to read all this because you've got some very curious detail in here and i want to know how you could know such a thing. I'm so grateful that you even brought that up the mantis alien, So im a big fan of like all the greats right? I read all the Ike books pretty much most of them. He has a lot of books, and so I was like okay i'm gonna write one! I gotta kind of put in something to make it fun you know? I sort of was tying it into an actual experience I had which I consider a dream...it's probably a dream back before I got sober where I had these three mantises

51:57 Over me and I was hovering above my body, you know watching them. I was not sober That year and it wasn't until years later that I had the recount of this happening to me like Years later And so I was very much interested in the mantis aliens Which I thought I made up I thought this was something that I created and made up turns out that know that there is a lot of Mantis connections to other abductees and stuff like that. Yes! That's happened to, and I was like what the heck? Like I thought I was just making a noble myth you know? Like just adding some fun stuff because at that time I wrote this

52:43 This was during the lockdowns. This is when they were setting up this military grade system of the 5g networks and whatnot, which we need because if we don't have it then it's going to be a national security threat so I make sense why they were doing that but I was also like I bet you things are gonna go through this like do a portal kind of you know? So that just where my mind was at that time and then on this like last like i don't know ten years of sobriety maybe eight years a sobriety i was told like other people have these encounters and i looked it up in the west identical to what happened to me and my dream with these mattresses so i've been collecting as much information i could after i publish that and i was pretty spot on

53:29 In that because I was just reaccounting my own dream and how i perceive it to be although, did do it as a you know fiction kind of blended in with that just make it exciting and fun. But this is appreciate you admitting that me you mentioned robert anton wilson earlier and yes your stuff has a real robert anton wilson vibe because i can never tell if he's disclosing something or fucking with me and And that can be quite annoying, but his material was so dense that he would list all these real connections to Sirius and certain dates. And then you just kind of like yeah I don't know maybe the Illuminati's arranging all this and that's where it's just like well we don't know what the implications or the conclusion is about who's behind this stuff but the actual data points are the data points

54:18 You're talking about wifi here. I mean, I will admit yes man tids having gone through that material probably the top three things people see are grays mantis and tall whites and we'll get into the tall lights in a second hour year for sure maybe baron trump's one of them but why the association with wifi is this the part where you're just Throwing it out there or is there an actual reason to say such a thing well just the wifi's not as strong as the signal. And so in my head i was like you know if the 5g signals way more powerful anything could go through this and so how do we use totally nuts,

54:59 Uh, when I was writing, right. We got that time, but there is a connection to like am FM radio and signals with souls and television in the noise and the frequencies. And I'm very open to that. And I do believe that like spirits and whatnot, that there is another dimension and all of that with stuff like that it's not too fresh on my mind, but All the movies that were shown and stuff like that also kind of talk about it. Like the new stranger things kind of goes into portals and this different frequency and the electromagnetic spectrum for sure, I am on your page with that, let there is something there. I don't know if it's mantids in the wifi, but there is something there. And if you go back to Marconi

CHAPTER 12 / 16 Discussion

5G Infrastructure and the Trump Administration

The discussion focuses on the legislative push for 5G infrastructure during the Trump administration. Carlwood highlights official White House documents from 2018 and 2020 that prioritized 5G as a national security necessity. Donut posits that 5G operates at frequencies that affect oxygen absorption and that the "space race" for 5G control is the foundation for a new global order and "smart city" surveillance.

5g· donald trump· wuhan· huawei· national security· smart cities

55:48 And it seems like these early guys messing with signals and stuff somewhat discovered this mean tesla famously that like he had an intelligence talking to him what was he messing with electricity all the time exotic forms of electricity. Marconi is a deep rabbit hole and there's a lot of classified stuff that gets into metaphysical, spiritual aspects of broadcasting these signals. People talk about nukes and they say well that's when the greys showed up because they didn't want these bombs to have multi-dimensional effects it would affect their living space as well I think there is something very parallel true about just messing with signals in general

56:31 And Marconi is kind of at the center bullseye of all that kind of stuff. But so you go on here just to kinda stick the landing on this as a topic, You go on to talk about the fact that you're pretty convinced that COVID was an illness caused by 5G And this is a thing people do say. You say coronavirus is a scapegoat, Wuhan is a smart city with 5G it operates at 60 Hertz the same frequency as the oxygen molecule absorption rate they're suffocating yourselves from the inside basically The Trump administration passed the bills to deploy 5g nationwide and to rural areas for America and her allies The Chinese 5G company Huawei is banned in the US

57:14 All the sponsors for together at home, including lady Gaga and the world health organization fundraiser for vaccine development was sponsored by 5g companies. That's interesting. I haven't looked that up to see how true that is or how much you nailed that. You say five G is the new Sputnik moment? The new space race who controls five G will control the New World Order. The reopening of the world is actually the opening up of new demonic portals So yes, saying demonic portals is something that's going to catch people's attention. But I looked up the legislation here because it's just not fresh in my mind. COVID was like we were all dealing with our own shit and then you look back at it

57:54 Yeah, if you go to trumpwhitehouse.gov they brag about this in 2018 President Trump unveiled our nation's first cyber strategy and 15 years which included facilitating the evolution and security of 5G In March 2020 ding-ding-ding president Trump issued the national strategy to secure a 5g Which outlined his vision for America to lead the development deployment management of security and reliable 5G communications infrastructure worldwide. Thanks to the president's actions, more than 250 million Americans big chunk of Americans now have access to operational 5G networks." So it's really interesting the timeline is there and when you think about

58:36 Trump by don't you can almost make the case that they needed a four year pause between the five g infrastructure that he ushered in and now the infrastructure stuff that is ushering again if you ask me. That's kind of the most dangerous stuff, that can be done so these people who are still on team trump they really gotta look at this because all the extra stuff he does plastic straws possibly Doing something about daylight savings time all that is just cover for the one true agenda the big beautiful bill. Build back better big beautiful bill you're gonna get it one way or another it seems like the most important aspect is to turn over free reign cities tech bros and it started in that first administration just as you talk about here and its going on now so like i said dot i wrote that really quickly

59:37 Once I started the channel and it was getting views because I needed something. I was like, I could sell this $5 ten dollars You know just you got my five bucks Thank you. I appreciate that but it's still pretty it's pretty good But my thoughts have changed a lot but a lot of that stuff is Pretty solid because even in this field that we're in there's a ton of Portals in like information that sends us on to rabbit holes that just aren't important or lead us down the wrong direction and I've gone down all of them right so like where i'm at now, my mind's changed on a lot of different things but also

1:00:20 Within that, there's a lot of good stuff. But yeah, it was wild. It was like there was a strange time it was different. It was a different time but that was like when it was first happening like the first months when I made that right? Well you know That's why I just asked the questions. I don't want to be held accountable for what I thought last year or two years ago and any of that stuff although I am probably going to take a page out of your book and start doing more stuff on my own because There's just all this information you can start looking at one particular building and who owns the building and then go down that person's family in all the sudden your in this crazy space near like what am i gonna do with this information. And a lot of it is mystical you'll find people who are attached to call orders own like the most prominent buildings in a certain city, no one knows about it and there was no book on that so for that information ever even make it into

1:01:16 The thing that i do here i can't get to do it myself because there's nobody even ask about it but its very common to just start a small investigation and, end up in a very strange place with all kinds of connections that you never heard before. And you start looking at someone and you're like just you can almost feel a potency to it your life i know when i look at this person's background something will emerge they will have gone too. Those three schools harvard princeton yale able of not enough it's always there they'll be involved in banking or the pharmaceutical establishment or if they weren't their parents were and,

CHAPTER 13 / 16 Discussion

Jason Giorgiani and Grounding in Reality

Greg Carlwood mentions that guest Jason Giorgiani recently canceled an appearance, leading to this session with Donut, who has been studying Giorgiani's book "Closer Encounters." They discuss the psychological toll of deep conspiracy research, emphasizing the need to stay grounded to avoid "schizo" patterns where every data point becomes overwhelming. Donut advocates for long-form content as a way to retrain the brain away from high-anxiety social media algorithms.

jason giorgiani· closer encounters· philosophy· schizophrenia· algorithms

1:01:54 Yeah, nine times out of 10. I'm finding really weird stuff that just kind of goes in one ear and out the other. So, uh, I really appreciate what you do and bringing this stuff to light regardless of if you have to cut around some of it to get to really just the straight facts and what people want to do with that. But as we're closing out this first hour, I guess what's What do you think is some of your most recent stuff that you think is quite unique where's your head at now what are you looking at so i just finished reading closer encounters four hundred and fifty pages on the ufo stop. So I'm very, that's where my head sat now and I've been working on editing it and all that. And I don't want to interrupt you, but that is a book by Jason Georgiani yes. And he was booked to be on this show about a week ago and he canceled on me and hasn't responded to my request to reschedule so is very interesting that I scrambled

1:02:49 To put someone else on the calendar. It was you and your most recent thing is a deep dive into his book, which I was reading anyway. Yeah. So we probably could talk about it better than he can because I've read it. I've studied that. I documented that. I read it over and over and over again. A very great book. I mean incredible. Well, all the people listening out there may be the listeners can give a little nudge to George Johnny and let them know that this is a good place too appear well, he talked about the man. And I got that book years ago, because he covers the mantises in it. So their whole reason to read it was to learn about the mantis information and it's a whole nother take than what I presented which is scary. It's freaky. Yes. How does all this stuff inform the way you see reality as something that really seems

1:03:40 More scripted. Of course, we don't know necessarily why or by who but what are your thoughts on the big picture? It's very important when we're looking into stuff like this to ground ourself into reality like where am I right now? Like where my feet what am i doing What's real what's not real because looking into stuff you can get kind of schizo with it that's why they say it's good so because skitzo is like everything is connected So like we could connect everything and it gets too much for me where I'm just like, okay that's wild because as I start looking into something. I'm like all man this is connected to this and this is connected to this

1:04:19 And seems like there is a connection but I got to know when to like step back and be like okay, gonna read a book like that because it is our perspective of reality which has kind of got me into philosophy lately but I'm such a beginner. Totally beginner. these different worldviews that we carry. Like, why do I have this certain worldview when I wrote that Mantis book where I was talking about stuff? I looked at the world a certain way and I totally look at it...a little the same but a lot differently now. But also going back to when I was a kid how I looked at the world is sort of like the same as I look at it today in some aspects

1:05:05 art or something like that. Maybe, you know life experiences change it but uh it's important to stay grounded in reality because the fear and the paranoia could be deliberately being pushed on to society through the algorithms to feel anxiety, to feel fear, to feel these different things then we hide that and mask it with certain substances that's also pushed right? With these advertisements So it's a big work, you know. It's a daily thing just today I take it just today and yeah, it's all about having the serenity. I like to have Serenity but life happens now

1:05:51 Yeah, things go up and down. Life happens and just dealing with it is important. And also being able to not watch clips and watch long form content like your channel is great because people can't watch something like I'll make a video two hours long we could spot people great research It won't get as many views as if I just put together a couple seconds and be like, yo this is satanic. Then it's millions of views right? Well we gotta retrain them don't play the game too much retrain people bring them back you know yeah but

CHAPTER 14 / 16 Discussion

Wrap-up and Reflections on Blue Subliminals

In the post-interview wrap-up, Greg Carlwood reflects on the "blue sacrifice" theme, specifically the recurring blue horse imagery in major cultural events like the Olympics and Beyonce's tour. He expresses some skepticism regarding the "mantids in the Wi-Fi" theory but acknowledges the potency of the synchromystic connections found in Donut's research. Carlwood suggests these celebrities act as templates for ancient archetypes and rituals.

blue horse· beyonce· katy perry· olympics· viral marketing· avatar

1:06:31 What are you going to do? This was a lot of fun. Who knows how far is really too far, maybe the line is mantids in the wifi. I think maybe we didn't find it. Uh, but you know, we gave people a solid ride on the vast conspiracy let them know where to get more donut in their lives. You can find me at doughnut that's D O E N U T okay. It's just that simple. Awesome. Well thank you man. You do some good stuff and I appreciated talking to ya have a good one Thank you. Well, there we go guys some good old fashioned unhinged conspiracy lunacy with sprinkles and icing donut. And I do think he's onto something with all the blue and the idea of sacrifice preparation and the blue horses that's not exactly an obvious sort of symbol to start seeing everywhere for no reason

1:07:28 I'm just pretty convinced about the blue subliminal messaging, the blue tongue trend. Maybe that's an homage to a Kali type ritual or something? Kali would always stick her tongue out but i think it was always red. Shiva is the blue one and not just his tongue he's more like Mr Manhattan or a damn Navi maybe this is all viral marketing for Avatar I don't know, but if the collective unconsciousness is the core of reality and the internet and culture are now the substrates in how you affect consciousness or the unconscious. The tracing board now or the new ritual altar then yes some organic stuff out in the world does happen but you have to see the actions of someone at the Beyonce level that Katy Perry level has something artificial

1:08:22 They're kind of more like templates that archetypes and rituals are just draped over because they get the attention. And that's what it's all about for me, the mind blower is the Olympics performance and the blue guy on the platter I see that with new eyes now well it's that and the Beyonce Blue Horse portal thing That's a good find! And also The Wicked Blue Horse...I mean that one was me But this theme of a blue horse is present in the biggest film and the biggest concert tour of the year. I mean, maybe not the biggest but way up there on the scale of getting their attention. The Katy Perry Blue Origin ritual was clearly a major event in the 2025 timeline that Olympics thing was last year but also France and French occultism has come up a few times recently as well

1:09:17 And these are just some of the biggest cultural events across sports, music and film. So it's not like a huge stretch that seeing this symbol there would be meaningful in the year of the fire horse I was thinking can fire be blue? Of course. What kind of fire is blue is an electrical fire. I think so could this symbolism go as deep as being literally represented as an attack on the grid perhaps or is the fire horse and the blue not really connected is it more abstract like even if you do wanna say its electric fire is just humans being sacrificed to the blue flame of electricity, blue light and all that stuff.

1:10:06 Again, I'm not really the guy to firmly plant my flag on any conclusion or meaning but i will acknowledge the synchromystic associations of what seems to be a ritual theme of the year. I'll have to go back and see what Wayne McCrory said it was gonna be and if his predicted symbols are anywhere as potent as what Donut is highlighting with Blue sacrifice horse motif. So that's what I liked and I do think we got a pretty good interview here, definitely unique and it's that video and material that I thought would make for a good show And then of course we covered some of his other stuff and that's all fine and good

1:10:48 But when I read a lengthy passage from someone's book about something as far out as boldly detailing the situation with mantid beans living in the Wi-Fi signal spectrum, I hope for a better response than well that is just an idea I thought of. So that's not ideal, but what am I going to say? We really went for it. I like to surprise you guys with something outside the norm even for conspiracy culture when I can and this is the offering on the THC table this week. I hope ya feel full and satisfied apparently Donut manifested his way onto THC anyway so i guess my cosmic puppet strings got tugged around a little bit for this too hmm

1:11:35 But another viral clip in the culture this year really was RFK using methylene blue on Air Force One, Elon on ketamine and the Oval Office horse tranquilizer. And also the Joe Rogan Ivermectin horse paste thing that's a little bit older but it's still going on and it's just all a little odd right? I don't think I'm cherry picking obscure things this is all right out in front of culture So kudos to Donut for picking up on that stuff. He is a character, I find him to be very genuine and at least he was honest when he said well i just do this or do that to get clicks it's how the game is played and it's a hard game out there yeah I know that! I know my thumbnails could be a bit better...I know I could be a bit more sensationalist and epic with my titles

1:12:30 But I guess i'm just getting old now and my attitude is people are going to watch or not. And if my goal is really just to make them become members and not necessarily get that click so the ad gets seen, then what are the tricks really gonna do for me? You like it or you don't It is what it is Of course The numbers don't lie in the tricks work but here we are So anyway The point being You know, I love to turn the dial up to 11 and get wild with it. But when we cross the line over into silliness and every listener is going to have a different line for when we get too sillyness, it does break the whole thing because we're trying to get two potential truths that are outside of our ability to verify. And if we go too far, The whole provocative nature of what we're doing here just kind of breaks

1:13:27 So I come away with slightly mixed feelings with some of the topics we covered, but I still think it was an enjoyable ride. All I do is ask the questions to people that I think will have interesting answers and he definitely had quite a few interesting answers You know, outside of the wifi manted beans. I think we did get some great stuff in there especially in the plus show and plus people will correct me if they disagree but I thought there was a ton of value in the Chateau Marmont material and the hidden tunnels under LA backing right up to the country club I felt a bit bad because it did sort of turn into a mini presentation by me with some other supplemental stuff. But i'm just trying to make the show content rich and it was donuts videos that sent me in those particular directions, and i'm really just here to give the assist if something a guest did or covered in the past isn't exactly fresh in their mind

CHAPTER 15 / 16 Discussion

Plus Show Preview and Charles Dellschau Drawings

Carlwood promotes the "Plus" version of the podcast, which includes a deeper dive into the work of Jason Giorgiani and the historical drawings of Charles Dellschau. He highlights a specific Dellschau airship drawing from 1920 that allegedly contains the initials "DJT" and the name "Trump," linking it to theories about breakaway civilizations and time-looping narratives.

charles dellschau· djt· breakaway civilization· plus show· jason giorgiani

1:14:28 And then I had even more to fold in when we got to the Charles Delchow drawings and the history of The Breakaway Civilization stuff. So for first-hour listeners, The Plus Show did take us deeper into Donut's presentation of Jason Giorgiani's work and I've been trying to get an interview with Jason for a while now ever since I learned that he was a shared source of insight for Tracy Twyman and Dr Heather Lynn But he canceled on me, doesn't seem to really want to reschedule and shy of me pulling the don't you know who I am? Don't you know I'm the second or third biggest conspiracy podcaster in Central Florida. You know shy of me pulling that card He's probably just gonna keep ignoring my requests

1:15:16 But this was the next offering on my plate. And so it just so happened that that's what Donut covered and we got to talk about Jason's work anyway, and we added a lot of good stuff there. And I bring it up now halfway to try to sell some free listeners on converting to plus I gotta do what I gotta do but I really gotta just put this one part in the wrap-up here about these drawings So we all know from previous interviews here that there is a Charles Del Chau Airship drawing that says Trump on the top of it. We covered that in the plus show There's actually two let's just focus on this one at the bottom is the date that he drew it April 10th 1920 410 20 DJ T my mind's blown by that

1:16:07 It's not just the first name, it's the whole damn name. Middle initial two and it's a synonymous term. Not everybody goes by their initials but he does. It's quite eerie what even is reality? So The Plus Show is great blah blah blah sign up at the higher side chats dot com or in the show notes toss me a few bones if you like what I do and get twice as much of it! And get the solo presentations I'm cooking up In fact, I actually just sat down to record with someone yesterday and before we started they said how they thought THC was the gold standard and they considered it a big deal to be on. And after i got through my intro when we got to the first question They completely froze up and said that were having a panic attack and couldn't do it

1:16:57 So I brought up the idea of doing a solo show based on their work and they endorsed it. So now that's another one to add to the list, and The Universe just keeps presenting me with these solo shows to do, and I'm juggling like three or four things I have in the works now And I think we might be playing around with the THC format a bit in the new year More on that later. Become a plus member, get caught up and brace yourself for a fully loaded 2026 year of the goddamn fire horse! But okay let's keep it moving here... The last episode was Stellium 7 Mike Wilkerson

CHAPTER 16 / 16 Discussion

Listener Feedback, Meetups, and Closing Song

The episode concludes with a review of the previous interview with Mike Wilkerson (Stellium 7) and a list of upcoming listener meetups in Arizona, North Carolina, New Zealand, and Indiana. Carlwood addresses criticisms regarding visual content in audio podcasts and debuts a humorous original song about the difficulties of "red pill" dating in one's forties before signing off.

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1:17:37 He had a solid five for a couple of days, five stars out of five. And I was really impressed but now after about eight or nine days it's a 4.7 which is still very good and i'm super happy with that interview his work is pretty fascinating blew my mind A lot of people thought we had good chemistry as they say in the movies...I agree We got along well And I just think the heartstone thing is wild. And the idea that these giant mountains don't just look like a Titan from the outside, that they have actual cavities that sync up with the biology nuts. The only real criticism I got from that interview is that it was too visual in the second hour and I even apologized in the wrap-up for that because I knew

1:18:31 But interviews are organic and I didn't expect him to lean on the presentation so much. So I tried to remind him as we went, we had this echo issue live that was removed later but it made it hard to step in and talk. So I just kind of let him do his thing and the wrap up, I didn't want anyone to be too frustrated so I told you where you could get that presentation for free and I hoped that people wouldn't be too mad at me most weren't but it is what it is. I'm just letting you know that if you were frustrated I hear you and i'll try to make sure that doesn't happen again. But, I put the Stellium 7 show on the top shelf. I think it's S tier around here if we were doing a THC tier list everyone is into listening to this show for something different so clearly that's not going to be a universal feeling but I did like it a lot and for something so wild and outside of the box at 4.7 it's pretty solid

1:19:32 Now, as for the meetup calendar. This is the list of where THC fans are trying to put themselves out there and meet other like-minded locals in meat space here we go. Looks like December is all done. That's to be expected it is the 17th, but we got January 3rd desert monks brewing in Gilbert Arizona, January 10th Raleigh North Carolina at the Raleigh Brewing Company, January 12th, Rosedale Albany Auckland New Zealand at Bar Savannah and January 16th Michigan city Indiana at burn Elm brewing Okay, find the others make events have fun. What's life about no pressure

1:20:16 But that is it for this one. I'm trying to think outside the box and bring you guys stuff that you aren't getting everywhere else, You decide how i'm doing I suppose but check out Donut's work if you are intrigued there are some links in the show notes including a pdf of the images he sent me we talked about some of them but again I was being conscious of the audio listeners So I pushed for us to move on but they are included in the show notes If you are interested And also I should say, I did write a new song that I'm ending this show with. Actually was thinking about some friends of mine who are at that point in life now that we're getting into our forties where there's a couple divorces and the friend group and it's sad to see but they really got knocked down a peg or two economically. We don't have to get too much into it but

1:21:13 They are some red pill buddies of mine and I just got to thinking about how difficult it would be to date in this reality right now in the mid forties, especially if you want. Someone that's also red pilled like that's a requirement to your dating. I don't know, it just sent me off and I came up with the funny song about it and I didn't even think it might ever make it on THC because it's kind of not really exactly the vibe but I think it jives with this particular episode so we're gonna dust it off and see what you think

1:21:50 And that's it for me. I've done my part, your move Blucifer bastards Ritual sacrifice culture trend seeders and fire horse flame fanners Your fucking move I blew another first date Where i told myself i'd keep it light She may not be as awake as me But we can have a good time staying up tonight She was giving money Things were starting to cook But then she ruined the fun I just couldn't bite my tongue How could you think they handled COVID well as a sire? Those masks were just for compliance Had nothing to do, take Yikes! You know that was all fake I got the jet She may not be but we can have her start in a club A gender-driven engineer Sandy Hook Where I told myself Ikeans ain't real

1:24:08 Is that because you realize there's a disclosure game being played by shady intelligence guys? Because beings have been here for not just since 1947 Another first date where I told myself I'd keep but then she ruined the fun