Del Bigtree | Coronavirus COVID-19, Chloroquine, Ventilators, & Vaccines

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01:46 In fact, it looks like every data manipulation trick in the book is being used to create a panic that is not only unjustified but surely could have consequences much more severe than any potential new virus on the loose even by the CDC's own metrics. Not to mention the sleight of hand we're seeing when it comes to lumping in anything that at least half matches the COVID-19 symptoms even in the broadest senses, the radically flawed testing and harsh treatment protocols being used on the weakest and most elderly patients. And despite all that, models are still being drastically reduced and headline after headline is telling us infection rates are slowing though cultural crackdown certainly isn't.

02:27 It's enough to get the world so worked up they're almost begging from their suburban bunkers for a magic vaccine that doesn't even exist. And these are things we surely don't need to tell todays returning guest Del Bigtree as he has covered it all and more, on his show The High Wire. Which not only does the best database deep dives into vaccines and true causes for concern surrounding them but has also been delivering the same high-level coverage on the ongoing coronavirus saga. If you missed his last appearance on THC, let me remind you that Dell is a very accomplished medical investigative journalist who produced the daytime talk show The Doctors on CBS for six years

03:06 which actually won an Emmy during that time. Dell then went on to produce one of the best vaccine documentaries on this island earth, called Vaxxed from cover up to catastrophe and his non-profit ICANN remains the gold standard for true vaccine advocacy and has won lawsuits against The National Institute Of Health, The FDA, And most recently the CDC for their irresponsible and dishonest messaging regarding vaccines and autism We are lucky to have him on our side a bright mind for these troubled times the corona virus hype killer and justice seeking science loving journalist for justice del big tree welcome back to the higher side. It's good to be here after that opening know what we have left talk about but i was awesome i try man i tried gotta set up you know tensions fans of short these days but,

03:54 I am as thankful as ever to have you here. I very much think your work is the best bridge for my people, to share with their friends and family who might not agree with their thoughts on big pharma or the concerns over vaccine safety and this coronavirus coverage has been no different just as solid as ever And it seems that the story you get from taking a sober look at the science itself is a lot different than the story you get from cable news which I think is a great place to start If we were to maybe set this up for people who have been affected by the media-induced panic and scary images and numbers they've seen day after day, talk to us about how the data itself around COVID 19 is actually less scary than it's being made out to be.

04:39 Well i mean i think if you did the very simple list thing you can do with your people were gonna say where do i start just look at the overall death number in the world which is you know right around a hundred thousand deaths now around the world. Now, that means that essentially you have to understand here in America we would call that a bad flu season. We have had seasons where we've had 100 thousand deaths and no one batted an eye. We average out in the range of I think last year was like almost 60 thousand deaths from the flu in the United States alone so the global numbers are still within the range what we would accept

05:20 from a flu season in America. So I think you have to start right there and ask yourselves, while that's always been happening we never shut down the United States of America before and we certainly didn't shut down the world these numbers are actually tiny there insignificant numbers that's not to say that people aren't suffering and for those people that sit in this really tiny group of people that are having an extreme adverse reaction to this illness you know my heart goes out to the families in those people but as you sort of mentioned in your opening We also have to question if we're not killing those people with the wrong approach towards treatment, which is I think the fastest growing story right now in the world. But you just start with the numbers that's what you can understand.

06:09 where we really have had a lot of trouble is in this idea, we've been hearing for really months now. We don't know what the denominator is right? We don't know how many people are infected so we don't know what the death rate of this is and I've been reporting on that for good month and half now. Over six weeks ago, we started with China and looked at the numbers in China, the death rates in China and then compared them to what was the assumed amount of infection. Remember, we can't test everybody so we're never gonna know how large a group are actually infected. Really really interesting stories coming out this week like out of California where they're starting to question whether or not we all had coronavirus in America last year that we already had immunity there trying to understand why the numbers are so low

06:59 And then you know so i think a lot of different things we're gonna have to look at scientifically to see where we told the true story from the beginning. But in the end you still can't get away with death numbers we may be able to manipulate the infection numbers and we definitely know that bloating the death numbers, But the death numbers are solid. Those are things that we can go from, and we're still I think right now in America were in 20... I think the last I checked was 22000 maybe 25 today again that we're still you know halfway through what would be your average flu season so what is it? That we are all really panicked about why do I mean I just got noticed yesterday The county I live in Texas now as a mandatory mask

07:45 has to be worn out in public and it's a stay at home order. And I think we're all looking around saying for what, what are we hiding from? What are we hiding from well said, I agree with you and even a bad flu season can be made to look a lot worse because like you say the deaths are real but yeah cause of death is a little bit fishy because we have this very unscientific trend of just Taking assumed or presumed cases and just market at coven nineteen just use that code directly from the cdc and as i learn from your show even have a line in there thats like wink wink nudge nudge hey, just mark it down its unlikely we will be following up on these cases at all and thats pretty telling.

08:29 Yeah, when the CDC essentially sends out and by the way you know I reported on that two weeks ago that they have this death certificate and it's a new code for COVID-19. It does it says whether you're assuming is COVID 19 or actually is COVID-19 we don't really care call the death COVID-19 then as if that wasn't enough just like in 2 days ago they resent the letter again in case you missed the memo were telling you call at all COVID-19 there's also huge incentives. We understand that they're paying something like 20% more for COVID cases in hospitals, the Medicare system if you're on Medicare you get a 20% bonus if it's a COVID-19 we also heard things I'm starting to see numbers maybe were looking into it that you get nearly $10,000 $13,000 as soon as you have a COVID patient your hospital then then if you put them on a respirator is like another 30 or 40 thousand dollars are given

09:23 All of these are incentivizing, you know for people to call it COVID. And remember there's not enough tests everywhere so they're going into these protocols and getting paid these monies for assumptions about the whole thing and yet even under those circumstances we're still in the low 20 thousand deaths now I know that sounds cold-hearted but these are just cold hard numbers and they always are We are right on track for a flu season that we would be having in America right now Yet we are really hyper-focused on death. And apparently if you tell Americans that one in a million can die, that one really stands out to them and that's how they do it. Just the idea of anyone dying is terrifying to everybody and let's be clear it has been stated

10:07 all around the world and even Dr. Deborah Birx has said we are just like Italy, Italy's death was the average age is somewhere between 81 and 85 years old with comorbidities meaning they had at least one to three other life-threatening illnesses when they passed so when Italy went through their numbers they said 99% of our deaths had comorbid issues, other issues that were life-threatening. After they went through and sort of filtered through it they came to the determination that 88% of people who have been listed as dying from COVID19 did not actually die from COVID 19 those other life threatening illnesses

10:50 you know, were why they expired. And so that leaves you with... You have to take the numbers out of Italy and just say it's only 12% of that if Deborah Birx is telling us we mirror Italy We should be doing the same thing So if we're at 22 percent right now I mean twenty two thousand or roughly I didn't look at this morning 12% of that is really the number you can assume was actually COVID-19. The rest had heart diseases and diabetes and things that were most likely on the verge of claiming their life, cancer, things like that. And then think about all the deaths I mean there's so much we can talk about today but think about the fact that basically all of your heart surgeons

11:28 are being sent home. All of your cancer doctors, oncologists there are no transplants is no organ transplants taking place so people that were on a list with a life-threatening situation that we're planning on getting that organ it was going to save their life whether from a relative or a bank, that surgery's not happening. So what's happening to all those people? They are most likely dying. Heart surgeons aren't in the hospital. What we understand is they're sort of doing shifts so if you're outside of the ER or ICU and you have a specialty, you're on for seven days and then off for like 14 days then your on for 7 days. Even this idea that hospitals understaff

12:10 this situation they're cutting their staff virtually in half by the way that they're dealing with it and then we talk to a heart doctor makes perfect sense is like i'm not doing any stance i'm not doing anything for the minor procedures that would keep people alive there having heart conditions right now none of us being done were just handing him drugs and good luck with that so what does that death rate going to be this year when we look back at all of this over panic because Now, Germany has studies out there reporting that 0.37% is the actual death rate of COVID-19. There was a study two weeks ago in The Lancet Journal that looked at the China numbers and said it looked like it was about .63%, I think it was but all of it under 1%. We are literally changing our lives running around with our hair on fire because a group of people less than one percent of us now

13:03 even less than half a percent somewhere in the .37 range have a sort of really extreme reaction to this illness. Whereas as they pointed out, children under 17 you're at zero really with what it will do with you. Seventeen to 34 there'll be one or two serious cases that most likely almost no deaths anywhere so really under sixty five for most people this is gonna be a common cold at best. Great points and yeah the devil's in the details and this is all important stuff

13:40 You mentioned that one of the big stories right now could be that we might be killing people with an incorrect protocol and i wanted to talk about that cuz you covered doctor cameron kyle side del, who came out and said that at first he was under the impression that he was treating people with a pneumonia like virus like everyone else assumed but as he dealt with more and more patients he found these symptoms are better match for. high altitude sickness or the bands when people go scuba diving and as you said this is a big deal because of people are coming in completely coherent, and then put into a medically induced coma so that they can be put on a ventilator it's very possible some people are dying from that protocol who shouldn't be put. Into a coma or put on a ventilator at all

14:29 I think it's more than possible, i think its now being stated by doctors around the world. Many doctors are now following Kyle Seidel into this entire discussion saying we're having the same thing they're saying that 80% and this is sort of a going number at least 80 percent people being put on ventilators for COVID-19 died That's higher than usual. I mean, you have to remember usually if you're being put on a ventilator You are in critical care no matter what's going on So, you know the death rate on Ventilators tends to be around 50 to 60 percent for whatever reason you're on it whether you were just in them in a you know A brutal car accident or your suffering from you know Your chemotherapy or whatever the case may be but we're talking even higher than that and I

15:16 said Everyone on a respirator dies everyone on a respirator is dying and I thought that was an outrageous statement. I said really, um Are you exaggerating? He said no I mean out of all the hundreds that have come through You know our hospital in the hospitals around me and all my friends I only know of two people that ever got off the respirators. So, that's sort of or the ventilators and so that's what really when then when Cameron Kyle Seidel came forward i was like wow this is exactly what i'm hearing and now that he's been very outspoken there are doctors all over in fact we're starting to see a protocol change We saw with Boris Johnson who would I think is the highest

16:11 ranking human being on the planet so far that we've seen go into an ICU with COVID-19. They said they were putting him there so that they could get him on a ventilator if necessary, but instead they used oxygen which seems obvious you know I think the difference...I thought of ventilator was oxygen. You know in sort of my lack of understanding I didn't really think about the fact that, right you're putting someone in a coma and a ventilator is sort of rammed down your throat and the tube goes down into your lungs. Well we weren't really... And this is my understanding after interviewing a lot of different doctors about this. The reason they weren't using oxygen and specifically pressurized oxygen T-PAPS and these masks that push oxygen in it's because it can aerosolize the virus

16:58 And so, all right it's a decent concern. But now think about this and the way Cameron Kyle Seidel described it is quite chilling he said normally when we're ventilating people they are you know not conscious I mean there they are struggling to stay alive he said that just isn't what we're seeing here He talks about a patient this woman very coherent speaking very clearly to him saying I feel fine, I'm just having trouble getting oxygen. Her lungs could move which is why you get a ventilator she wasn't having trouble with the muscles she didn't in her cat skin have any fluid in her lungs She didn't seem to have pneumonia so as he was describing it's and the more we know about this apparently It's the transfer of oxygen through your red blood cells that is really the problem So they're seeing these coherent people but with

17:53 Very low oxygen percentages in the blood my understanding is what you drop below ninety percent that's when hospital start get worried and we're hearing reports of people that are less than seventy percent oxygen or fifty percent yet still talking incoherent. So what we're to understand now is around the world people were walking in a hospital they are fully coherent and being told we are gonna put you in a coma and put a ventilator down your throat. And Now our understanding is at least 80% of those people never came back to us and the question and now as we're looking the disease There's several studies under review right now that are describing this To be more like a blood illness than a respiratory illness, which is really fascinating it also leads to why perhaps chloroquine and zinc and dithromycin

18:48 are successful treatments because they're actually treating this COVID-19, which appears to be trying to lock onto your blood and block the oxygen. Which is a lot how malaria apparently works is malaria goes after your red blood cells and hemoglobin and affects your oxygen rates in your blood so all very interesting stuff but think about this Really if you listen to the language and there is a lot i mean we've heard so many different reports but for the most part everyone around the world agreed that this didn't have a super high death rate it just had a very extreme scenario where those who are having complications were gonna need ventilators and it was going to tax

19:34 the amount of ventilators we had in hospitals. So there was a concern that the rooms and the beds where ventilators were, and the ICUs that would be overrun which is why we started lockdown all around the world The idea was to try slow down the virus which yes for 95-99% is a non event that one percent it was such a critical event that they didn't wanna have more death because we didn't have enough ventilators right now with the argument new york does the argument in seattle and around the world and then italy where they really did seem to be overrun remember that hasn't happened america we haven't had a single hospital. That ran out of beds ventilators or anything

20:15 And now my understanding is they're taking down the field hospitals all around the country. But the idea was just to simply give doctors time, right? So that we had enough ventilators will now imagine if the ventilator is what was killing everybody, right? The entire argument for locking down was we had to be able to have enough ventilators to handle this well Now it appears that treatment was the wrong treatment and we were actually potentially killing people all around the world with ventilators. There's basically a mandate, even on the CDC website now everyone is being told lead out with oxygen and start with oxygen and see where you get it worked for Boris Johnson he walked out a day later I don't know what other drugs and things they may have tried with him And then you can...I think that it's really suspicious how much there was an attack

21:05 On all of the trials around the world that are showing so much success with poor queen the malarial drug and. And zinc coming when you have the type of success for hearing about the ddr route in france who was the first one what's hot by roger he said two months ago, We have a chloroquine trial that did very good in China. He said not only is this respiratory illness treatable, it's one of the easiest to treat we've ever seen and yet there has been this pushback to not use these protocols with chloroquines. There has also been very successful intravenous vitamin C trials I don't want to leave those out but for

21:46 people they hear a vitamin and they just tune out. So if you need a drug there's a drug out there, there has now been I think DDRI who just did a study with I think it was 1028 people and had about 98% success rate. There is a doctor in New York who has treated over 800 patients successfully we are hearing it all around the world and yet Our public officials, Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx are saying we can't get back to normal until we have a vaccine. It just shows you that right there outs the fact that's an agenda

22:24 That's an agenda. No one in their right mind under these circumstances, as you so clearly put in your opening would be wishing for a product that doesn't exist and saying we won't have our lives back until what I call this the vaccine unicorn arrives When you have drugs that are having so much success, why would the head of NIAID and of this crisis in America not be saying we're having a lot of hope? And if that drug's closed there must be another drug that maybe even does better. But as soon as we can cure these people and we can take care and keep people from dying, this is over. Because for the rest of us this is a cold. The second you can say you know what there really no longer risk of death because we have the right treatment, were all back to work most of us are going to get a cold then will have herd immunity why is that not the discussion when were having so much success from this drug? It shows you they don't want a drug to work it's so clear by their languaging This isn't a conspiracy theory

23:25 Dr. Anthony Fauci does not want any drug to work, that is why he is saying I'm not letting your life go back to normal until we get to the unicorn vaccine So true and it should be probably pretty obvious to this audience but much like bill gates about she got yes how she has a financial incentive some might say a conflict of interest in convincing the public that only a vaccine can save us now because. The two guys could make hundreds of billions of dollars potentially and, The vaccine makes no sense at all when you take into account cloroquine because we got seventy five years of safe use verses zero with the back saying, yeah will you compare them and contrast them it makes no logical sense that you would wait for something that doesn't exist when we have something that does remember how cautious.

24:20 it get You know, I think we think well you know we have chicken pox vaccine rotavirus and measles yada yada all the ones We give our kids. This is just another one of those folks It is not another one of those they have been attempting to make a coronavirus vaccine for decades They are also using a brand new approach to vaccination in this case an m r n a using

25:17 mRNA which is or a DNA vaccine. These are spelunking into places in the immune system they have never been put before In the case of mRNA vaccines again, we've been attempting this since the 1990s and still not one has made it onto the market because We are messing with your natural really if you think of your body as a computer We are sending in a false message to try and make it work very very dangerous stuff and in the animal models You know, that took place in all those trials I told you where they were trying to make a coronavirus vaccine. Especially remember when we had SARS coronavirus there was a real push to try and protect in case SARS came back and so guys like Dr Peter Hotez has been very outspoken proponent of vaccines he was working on at Coronavirus vaccine multiple drug companies were and in almost every case in the animal trials the vaccine looked like it was safe

26:17 different versions. They would give it to the animals, they seemed to be healthy their bodies were creating antibodies looking at the vaccines can be great people are jumping up and down you know in their laboratories but then came the challenge test where they actually put the animals in contact with the coronavirus and something happened none of them could explain there now calling it antibody immune enhancement Sounds really nice and friendly, but it can kill you what happens is for some reason when these animals that had antibodies Because the vaccine came in contact with the actual coronavirus their bodies overreacted got overstimulated their immune systems so that they ended up

26:56 having hemorrhaged organs and cytokine storms, and led to death. They discussed how this had happened in a trial on children for the RSV vaccine which they bailed out on that was the last time they had this problem but it was so endemic through all of the different trials that they put out warnings saying we should be very careful about moving into human trials for a coronavirus vaccine Because what people don't understand, they really don't know how a vaccine works. They will admit this to you I could show you video upon video of top people in vaccinologists that will say we don't necessarily know exactly how it works We know we put these things in your body creates antibodies and then usually It blocks the virus or the bacteria In this case they'll say

27:43 We don't know why antibody immune enhancement is happening. They don't know what's happening inside of the body So this is so experimental and what's going on now imagine 70 different approaches to this are going to jump past the animal models where the animals died The last time we did it and had cytokine storms in every one of them got sicker than they would have been. Remember, Tony Fauci even warned us of this I'm not making this up They are warning you there is a chance this vaccine could make people sicker and we don't want to do that Well how are you going to avoid that? How are you going to avoid

28:19 A vaccine that actually puts us all at more risk if you are rushing the science and that is what we read in every headline People will ask me, you know, what is the informed consent action network? That's my non-profit I get asked by newspaper agencies. What do you think about the vaccine? Are you against the vaccine? I said when i'm against is what i'm reading in the headlines which is The science is being rushed I am against rushing any kind of science there is, especially the type of science that could affect our species permanently forever. This is not a time to rush, especially when as we just pointed out you have chloroquine, this seems to have a 98% success rate in recovering people. So that's just a little bit on them. I think what will prove to be the most dangerous vaccine of all times and by the way for those of us

29:07 I've always had an issue with the testing of vaccines. That's been my number one discussion since I made Vaxxed and the focus of the work of the Informed Consent Action Network, we have proved that not a single childhood vaccine was ever tested against an inert placebo to establish safety. It was put on the market without using the gold standard of safety testing which is a placebo study. If you look at these trials right now, they're falling right in that line not one of these trials is going to have a placebo group getting a saline injection while everyone else gets injected with the vaccine so that you would have a real comparator or a real comparison group that is establishing

29:49 Safety, you need a safety control. We don't have any of those in these trials which is supposed to last a couple of months and then imagine this most of the issues with vaccines that are written right on the inserts themselves pertain to autoimmune disease, autoimmune diseases demyelinating conditions multiple sclerosis and rheumatoid arthritis and Crohn's disease and all of these things that take years to appear They take two or three years from the moment your body starts, your immune system starts attacking your body to you even recognize it's happening. So if a vaccine can cause that the idea that you're going to have safety trials and efficacy trials that will produce a vaccine in next 12-18 months when you could have

30:37 threatening autoimmune disease appear three years later, not a single trial will ever have set out to make sure the vaccine doesn't do that. It may kill you as I've already pointed out but if it doesn't kill you what if it just gives you a life-threatening and life altering autoimmune disease? None of these trials will be long enough to prove that the vaccine does not do that And let me just since we're right here make one last point I have i'm really not concerned that there is a virus that is going to wipe out this species that happens naturally Now, we know there's things happening in bio labs. There's a lot of discussions right now whether this is Bioengineered I only speak about things I can prove and I have not found the smoking gun on that yet But we're looking but here's my point

31:22 This species, we have been here since the dawn of man. We have been dealing with viruses and bacterias and seasons of these bacterias and viruses every single year and we have never seen anything wipe out our species i don't believe anything natural ever will white batter species but you know what could wipe out our species rushed science that makes a critical mistake just think about this this is not this is. This is really not even theory in fact it's the one thing we know this vaccine can do right now which is have a deleterious effect once you come in contact with the virus. Imagine if Bill Gates gets his way, he rushes a vaccine onto the market that vaccine will make about $370 billion dollars in one year If you give it to 7.5 billion people as they hope they can We all get a microchip or some version of tracking us to make sure we got our vaccine We can't get on a plane Can't get our driver's license What happens?

32:19 If we all get that vaccine, the quick short trials look like it was safe. But then lo and behold there's a mutation in the coronavirus which by the way they're saying this somewhere between three of them and 50 right now There's a mutation that all of us said when we come in contact with it That problem comes back that immune enhancement problem and all of a sudden everybody starts dying. You can't get the vaccine out of you, you always knew this was a problem, you thought you got around the problem but now what was going to be a common cold for the world and maybe just as bad is COVID-19 it kills 0.37%. What happens if it starts killing 90% of us because the vaccine is making us overreact to it? I think a mistake by science

33:05 is far more capable of eradicating this species from the planet than nature has proved to us it never will. Nature wants us to stay alive, we are part of an ecological system our bodies have a immune system designed to handle every virus and bacteria that we have ever come in contact with before why would it be any different? people like bill gates and people that really want to use the human species as a guinea pig and perhaps try to control how our bodies work. That's the most dangerous future i can imagine. Oh man yes cheers to that and

33:44 Along the same lines i've heard you make the point that it seems like a lot of the vaccine advocates are maybe pumping the brakes in this situation because the scrutiny, over this vaccine and the trials might blow up the whole vaccine narrative i think that's a great point that people should be thinking about and on the subject of vaccines possibly making us sicker. This is like the most mind blowing stuff to me because it becomes more and more clear that we should side with nature over big pharma because they really haven't unlocked the complexities of our holistic system. And the last time you were here, we talked about some data that really stuck with me that suggests that when we get the measles naturally, we recover and actually develop a wide range of added immunities including some cancers it looks like

34:32 And there was a parallel to this in a study you covered on the high wire called influenza vaccine and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017 2018 influenza season. Right? And it stated, while flu vaccination offers protection from influenza natural influenza infection might reduce the risk of non-influenza respiratory viruses by providing nonspecific immunity against these viruses. On the other hand recently published studies have described the phenomenon of vaccine associated virus interference that is

35:08 Vaccinated individuals may be at increased risk for other respiratory viruses because they do not receive the non-specific immunity associated with natural infection. And that's just so interesting, man! Yeah, and that's look that's an American study of our own military. It's not coming from you know some third world country That's right in this country what they said is it appeared to be I believe it was about a 36% increased risk of developing and having complications with coronavirus if you had had the flu shot, whereas if you just not gotten the flu shot and natural immunity then you were in much better condition. And it makes sense right? I mean when we see this flu shit every year, the flu shots a total failure! They admit that it's a failure while you hear this discussion about the universal flu shot We've got to figure out a flu shop that works for multiple years instead of making have to get it every year where they say whoops

36:03 a simply is only as effective as a flu shot at 10%. Do you think that they are going to let us all go to work and not lock us down because they have a vaccine that stops 10% of the problem? No way, no way. And by the way, all of the people, the elderly and those that sit in the risk category, those are types that usually don't react well to vaccines anyway. And so you're gonna have this situation where even though Dr. Fauci

36:45 And Bill Gates, you know said our lives will go back to normal once we have that vaccine. What happens if the vaccine sucks? Then all of a sudden it's like well sorry we missed it this year everybody back in your houses masks on lock it down let's destroy the economy again You know We'll just be recovering from our 20 or 30 percent unemployment rate If we're lucky It stays that low now Let's just add to that you see this is like it's like having third run our lives right now. There's no foresight to any of this thinking, none whatsoever we are I mean I've never seen scientists tell us and world leaders say here is our plan we are going to find a unicorn and once we find that unicorn we will all be saved

37:33 That's what is going on right now. My dad used to term, I believe it was a hunting term to say a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush You know go with what you have your hand not your dream of what you can get out there Science deals in facts It deals in what you can prove. It is not hopeful, it is not wishful thinking, it does not dream. It may have theories that look out into the future but you do not alter your entire planet and world based on a hope and a dream. Science is supposed to stay in the mathematics of what does exist. That's

38:09 So scary about what's going on. We're being told that science is making these decisions, well that's not true and by the way almost every mathematician around the world right now is jumping up and down screaming saying we've made a tragic mistake I had Knut Wachowski he was on my show and many like him many virologists and scientists saying these draconian measures are not only not working they are dangerous and they're doing the wrong thing Excellent points man you're killing it but you did say that it seems like there's no for site in this situation but then i think well the gates foundation and john hopkins did run a tabletop simulation last year called event two oh one, add looks a lot like this situation and these are also the same people involved in the data in the real world situation you think that.

38:59 You know can we blame ignorance because they ran this very precise simulation last year and that's the time when you think you would find errors in your data collection and all this kind of stuff but, i didn't find it so i have to start wondering is this about ignorance or is this a plan to make a couple hundred billion dollars that actually quite calculated by some of these people. I think that you know i'd like to shy away from just talking about the money because i think in some ways it underestimate what's really at hand i think there is a real desire to control and make sure that and for some people back control of people let me think about.

39:40 A helicopter parent doesn't hate her child, you know or hate his child. They helicopter because they love them so much that they're terrified that they're going to lose and can't handle the idea of all the different ways they could die or get sick So they just smother this child right? In many ways, that's what our health departments are like. You know there may be dark reasons they do what they do but you could also just argue that they're just really bad helicopter parents so instead of letting us run around free, letting us catch a cold or go skiing or take risks, go snowboarding or out on the boat let's

40:19 Let's just lock everybody down, that way they can't die. I mean by the way almost every death rate we know is down right now because as it turns out being locked in a prison cell is good for your health on one level not good for your mental health but you know less car accidents no boating accidents right now You're certainly not going to get any surfing accidents because you are going to be arrested if you even attempt to do it So is that the world we want to live in? I think that, you know yes there's hundreds of billions of dollars to be made but here is what we know. The World Health Organization told us over a year ago they want every human being on the planet vaccinated That's the plan! I did a whole show on the internal meetings early on this year It was in the second week of January where in December last year the World Health Organization talked about the fact that they wanted everybody on vaccines Why?

41:14 They said it very clearly because essentially they took herd immunity away from the world by using vaccines. They said we have made the world so dependent upon vaccines that if we do not continue, were gonna be in real trouble people got to keep getting back since cuz remember when you had real herd immunity to measles went back in the nineteen sixties when all of our parents had had it, all of our grandparents have the measles. They've lifelong immunity we were truly protected no baby ever got it because they were protected because the immune antibodies were handed down by their mom when they're born

41:51 All of that has been erased by vaccine immunity. We took the Ferrari of immunity that everyone had parked out front of their house protecting them, and we replaced it with a Pinto. We all now have the Ford Pinto of immunity and we have to go into the shop all the time to get it fixed over and over again. It's now not just two MMR vaccines, the measles mumps rubella vaccine when you're a kid they're talking about adding 1 3rd because we have so many mumps outbreaks in kids that had all their vaccinations and now there if you look on the adult vaccine schedule 2 more MMR vaccines as adults So we are looking at what? five and then it'll be seven, it'll be 10. These things don't create real immunity they do not last that's a fact and so that's what gets to be very very problematic when on the other hand if you look at the situation right now and many scientists are talking about this COVID-19 for most of us 90 something percent of us is going to be a cold at the very worst

42:54 So why aren't we figuring out a way to quarantine the elderly, those that are over 65 and not just at that have comorbid issues? Instead of taking your entire workforce out. Why don't we just airtight lock down our old folks homes Let's go ahead and create centers where people with autoimmune illnesses can go and be protected then pay those nurses and doctors really well to stay locked in there, deliver food in a way that's her medically sealed so that nobody can come in contact with what's happening outside. And then I mean this look we're paying trillions of dollars right now and severance packages do you see anyone retrofitting our hospitals? Retrofitting our old folks homes? A couple billion dollars here and there that we could

43:39 to about four weeks and we let the rest of us be the true soldiers for this country to be the real heroes and go out and catch that cold. Grab a box of Kleenex, weather it out for four days and now you are immune for life or at least for the next several years and as you pointed out probably immune to a host of other illnesses which is how this conversation started. You have such a broad

44:18 Immunity when you actually get the illness you get all of the proteins wrapped around You know and the antigens every part of it your body's immune to not some cross-section Some piece that they stuck in a petri dish and grew on some aborted fetal DNA Then stuck in a vial injected into you. All of those vaccines are coming up short Your body does not recognize The whole array of the illness So we know for a fact that there will be mutations to the coronavirus. Those who actually had it will be more likely to defend themselves to future mutations than anyone that gets the vaccine, I could go on and on and on but think about it why can't we devise a program in America that really can protect

45:04 and seal away those that are at risk, less than 1% of us while the 99% of us stay working and keep this country strong so that we can take on any... I mean it's just like any battle right? We're just battling a virus right now. A very weak virus for 99% of us There are better ways. It may not be the only way, but don't you think when you're listening to Tony Fauci and even Bill Gates while they go on their hunt and they're searching the mountains of the world for a unicorn to protect us? Wouldn't it be smart if we develop other systems so that, you know what, we could actually survive this chloroquine season work let's lock away those that are immune suppressed for a few weeks while we all develop the immunity that makes America strong again

45:48 Hey man and preach and you had a really poetic point on your show right along these lines reset hate just get something to heal the sick people and leave the healthy people alone i think that's such a. Great way to phrase it because it mentally gets your wheels turning out what the hell they're trying too create a product that they are only gonna use unhealthy people and there isn't something for the people that are sick which of the people that need something but i also agree when you say that it's about more than just the money and of course i have my own thoughts on the various intentions of these people but strategically its probably.

46:27 a poor strategy to put that in the conversation when you're trying to convince your conventional friends and family and you don't even need, go to those speculative levels because. Like if people wanna put their trust in boucher in the cdc u can it just depends on what you look at cuz there's actually a pretty big discrepancy between what about she is saying on the news versus what he's written in medical journals lately and thats probably pretty telling isn't it Will definitely what you're pointing out is while he's telling us you know at one point hundreds of thousands could die no and then it was tens of thousands i use actually published in my believe the new england journal medicine that there's a chance this could just be like another flu season

47:14 point very really only come to things. I'm not a doctor, right? I am not a doctor. I don't have a degree in medicine. I am NOT A lawyer. I'm a reporter. My job is to interview people and read medical journals and try to ask the questions that thinking people would be asking. And so I try to approach these things from a reasonable position. Let's just look at the history of vaccination really when we talk about a business model

48:14 Now, in this circumstance coronavirus is a perfect example. Imagine that you have a drug company and you make a product maybe it's a lot like chloroquine. Chloroquine is not a perfect example because it's the worst thing. It's generic, it's already passed its patent so no wonder nobody wants that to work because there's no company that can step up and make billions of dollars but let's go ahead and say you make a drug that can treat COVID-19 100% success It's about $20 a pill, you know. Or let's go ahead and make it an expensive one—$200 a pill and it treats COVID-19 100% success." But the problem with that product really when you look at is it's only going to be used by 0.37 percent of the population because those are the only people that are at risk of dying and they're the only ones who gonna care enough to take this drug

49:06 So okay, 0.3%, 7% you know one third of a percent of our population so what are we talking? A million and half maybe a million people will buy this drug You could stand to make $200 million That sounds like a lot of money But that's really not for a pharmaceutical company. Instead, how about this idea? And I can't imagine who pitched it the first time and how well it went over. Hey guys wait hold on a second! I know we've got this cure that could take care of 0.37% of people that are actually dying from this illness but what about this What if we say there is no product that can protect those that are actually sick? We have a product that everybody else has to take in order to protect that 0.37%. What I'm talking about is something called the vaccine, what we do as we say because those immune suppressed can't take the vaccine, we have to give it to 99.7% of the population that can take it, they're healthy people

50:08 Now you just went from making, I don't even have a calculator here. But we're going to say $200 million now take 340 million people and give them a product that costs 200 bucks a pop and you see where this is going? We're in the billions moving towards trillions of dollars worldwide all these programs end up being multi-trillion dollar products so that's why i say this I don't mind if they want to make a vaccine as long as that vaccine is designed for those that are over 65 years old That have comorbidities the ones that are actually at risk from kovat 19 make a product for them because I

50:46 I'm not worried. I don't have to be worried all science says, i'm gonna have a cold. I'll take the cold Thank you very much Oh and by the way my kids zero effect on them They're gonna take the cold too Don't go making a product because you stand to make trillions of dollars that all of my healthy family had to take it To protect that immune suppressed tiny percentage group. I mean it makes sense It's the I mean I gotta hand it to him right? It's the greatest business model that ever ever, ever was created. It's everybody else needs it. Oh and by the way the only reason our product doesn't work is because of those people that refuse to use it I mean these are genius advertising slogans but come on now if our best and brightest scientists in the world are capable as a cables we think they are

51:34 I'm pretty sure they could come up with a product that just deals with those people who are actually at risk. Make a product for those who are at risk and leave the healthy people to develop the greatest immunity there is, true herd immunity let us do our part and be the heroes that went out and got a cold. yeah it makes a lot more sense than the protocols were being handed down from on high. And i did wanna ask is where pulling this thing together hypothetically if it did come to a point where covid nineteen vaccine was required to reintegrate with the public,

52:14 And of course your kids are unvaccinated which you know i'd be interested to just know what you've seen first hand from that but have you thought about how your family would handle that specifically do you have any advice for families struggling with that potential question is it enough to leave. You know i think i answer that question the way i actually do myself which is a refuse even except that as reality. What's up accepted that as a reality becomes greater possibility of my life i think that our minds are powerful and we not only, you know believe what we see we see what we believe in about allow that to be apart of my belief system they were already further down road than i wanna go

52:57 I use the motivation of the idea that that's a possibility when it does not can erase my head i use that as the motivation to be the warrior for truth i am right now and do that because the glimpses in the images of how I react should someone come to my door and attempt to do something with my kids. It's close, right? You have one the heads of the World Health Organization saying we need to start going door-to-door and taking people out of the house that have COVID 19 That means that might be my son. That might be on my 11 year old son What would you do because there's no vaccine right now, but the World Health Organization which you seem to support Right? You're angry that Donald Trump is questioning funding an organization that has a plan and is stating to you We would like to be able to come and take your child away To some quarantine place you don't know about and maybe ventilate them without your control

53:51 Just the thought of what Dell Beatry becomes in that moment fuels me to stay involved in Politically being active and socially being active in talking to every single person I know Because I want to stay on the legal side of what can be done. I want to stay within the parameters That my founding fathers gave me To get to the truth God help us should we ever find ourselves in a situation that any of these crazy people and these organizations that are really having way too much power in this world, should they get their way. God forbid you think you're gonna come door to door and test everyone in my family and take away someone who has a cold? Yes Not going to happen And what we do at that moment

54:42 I think that will be reliant just on natural instincts, and I think they'll kick in fairly similarly for a lot of people. Yes and we just can't let it get there so no man this is been really great and before you go i definitely want to remind people about how important and effective your non-profit organization i can has been, understand you've won lawsuits against the national institute of health the fda and recently the cdc which is exactly that kind of action we need. Can you give the people just a few words about i can and its accomplishments and how to support it So i started you know for many people they know i made the film back from cover up catastrophe produce that. That's a catapult me into this discussion i've been a medical producer for the doctors for six years so i'm a person who really actually really geeks out reading medical journals and trying to make it understandable to the people are pretty good at it no i want an emmy award along with my show for the work that we did there but what i was traveling the country of that

55:44 there was a real issue with the film and some people that are you know anti-vaccine will attack me and say why did the film say you should just break up the MMR or there were mistakes made whatever the case may be. You know what bothered me most about the film, I think it's a brilliant film in a lot of people have really I think come around to a new understanding because of it. But what bothered me is as I was traveling the country, more and more people were coming up and telling their stories—their personal stories of vaccine injury—and it wasn't just the MMR vaccine. The Vaxx was only about one vaccine in one vaccine study. It's really if you think about it, Vaxx is really more like All The President's Men. It's a film about a government cover-up

56:25 I will say this, people will say that Vax doesn't prove that the MMR causes autism. And I agree with you it doesn't. It doesn't prove the MMR causes autism what it proves is that five scientists at the CDC did a study where they thought they were proving that vaccines cause autism and they committed scientific fraud. It proves that a government coverup took place beyond that there's more research you need to do into why they would do that but as I travel the country So many people were saying, my child never got to the MMR vaccine. They got autism right after the DTaP vaccine. In fact I would argue that in the world today more people blame the DTaP vaccine for their child's autism than the MMR vaccine which I found shocking. I also had people coming up saying my child died right after a flu shot or they were paralyzed after the HPV Gardasil vaccine or they died after the Gardasil vaccine and I started realizing

57:21 All of the vaccines on our schedule are hurting or killing somebody. None of them, because I get asked that all the time and is there a safe vaccine? And I can tell you I've met someone who's been killed by every vaccine that was made. Anecdotal sure but when you start hearing lots and lots of the same story it becomes less and less anecdotal so I wanted answers and so i created the informed consent action network a non-profit. What i want to take all the skills by the way, i brought over a couple of producers from CBS talk show The Doctors that helped me do research and help create the high wire which is why people say it looks just like television while we're doing other than fact that we have a couple hundred dollars cameras not you know hundred thousand dollar cameras in you know little bit more chachki lights things

58:08 We are approaching this the way we learned to do television. But I wanted to investigate the safety of all vaccines and so what i would say is this that, I think as a reporter and journalist unlike you cover a lot of different subjects it's brilliant then that's what great reporters do really hyper-focused on one subject, very focused. In fact the body of our research has been on not just vaccines but one word about vaccines safety we hear that vaccines are safe and effective ICANN has been focused on how do they say they're safe and that's where we've won the lawsuits in proving

58:44 But these are lies that say they're safe. As I said earlier, I can't really officially prove that not a single childhood vaccine ever used the scientific method—the gold standard which is a double-blind placebo study to establish safety before it was licensed to the public. So we proved that. We also proved at the 1986 compensation program where we took liability away from the industry and anybody who makes a vaccine so you cannot sue them We proved that law actually mandated that our government would take over scientific studies and reporting to the Congress. We sued Health and Human Services, and won. We sued the National Institute of Health and proved they were not doing the job making vaccines safer than the law required. And then most recently, the FDA lawsuit was a lawsuit

59:34 where very quickly when we go into a Walgreens and you look anywhere, you see these posters that have a pregnant woman. And it says if you're pregnant make sure to get your flu and Tdap vaccine to protect your baby well we asked the FDA to show us the studies that were done giving flu shots and Tdap vaccines to pregnant women to establish their safe because remember, until very recently all vaccine says do not give the pregnant women. So if you're making a change what trials? What studies did you do made that changes so we demanded to see all of the studies with flu shots and Tdap vaccines the FDA reference when it recommended that it was safer

1:00:14 pregnant women, they fought us. We won in court and they admitted there's not a single trial we've ever done on pregnant women using flu shots and Tdap vaccines." So they're literally when you hear Fauci say, we don't like off-label usages, we gotta make sure it's safe. They are literally recommending something that has never been through a study is a total off label usage on every pregnant woman. And we even saw as reported by the CDC arise in miscarriage of first trimester injections of flu shots all

1:00:57 that the VAX is about as an MMR study, and they could argue that that study proved that vaccines don't cause autism. I'll show you that it was a fraudulent study and they kicked half of kids off the study and committed scientific fraud but either way this site could say we trust that study in MMR doesn't cause autism but i was more concerned about the other vaccine especially the first six vaccines given in multiple doses in the first six months of life So, if I can remember now is it's hepatitis B, Hib, Prevnar 13, polio vaccine and the DTaP vaccine. The one I told you most parents say caused their child autism and so we said to the CDC if your saying vaccines all of them don't cause autism can you show us the studies in trials you relied upon to determine that the first

1:01:44 six vaccines given the first six months of life do not cause autism. Because remember now, as they say we're diagnosing better, they actually say they can diagnose autism at 6 months. So if vaccines can be implicated in any way and I'm saying ask the question in any way it would be those first six vaccines that would really be problematic so what trials and studies did you use to determine that they're not causing autism? Well, they fought us for over a year. We finally took them to court and the court said you've got to answer it. You've got to provide the studies. Imagine that would have to happen right? You would think there would be like a file ready to go at anyone asked question here we go! Here's the thousands or you know here's a box of studies that proves our point because we say it all the time

1:02:25 They didn't. They didn't want to provide it when the court finally got involved, the judge forced them to do it they handed over 20 total studies These twenty studies they say is what we relied upon to say that those vaccines don't cause autism Well, those studies about five of them were MMR studies. I wasn't asking about the MMR vaccine. I was asking you about the other six given earlier in the first six months of life then another five or six worth by Marisol Studies a mercury containing ingredient that is not in any of the vaccines we asked about so throw those out another ten or so were of mmr

1:03:04 and thimerosal combined studies, neither of which were a part of the vaccines that were in question. In the end—and you should really watch my show to get into details—those 20 studies did not have any way of saying or even referencing the fact that the vaccines we asked about in the first six don't cause autism And so therefore, we are asking the CDC to take that line off of your website. It's a lie! You cannot say that all vaccines don't cause autism if you don't have studies to prove that the ones given in those first six months of life don't. They all have been proven not to cause autism and that is not the case.

1:03:42 especially DTAP, which more parents claim. And you know what? One of the things they provided to us was not actually a study it was a review. A review of all the studies in the world done by The Institute Of Medicine which is our Nobel laureates and those that are highest ranking scientists and in that review they said we can neither confirm nor deny that the DTAP vaccine causes autism because no studies have ever been done investigating that question So the number one vaccine accused by parents of causing autism in the world has never been studied whether it causes autism or not. And for those that are asking, I would put it simply because there'll be people saying well the MMR study proves that DTAP doesn't cause autism. I literally hear that right?

1:04:28 And I would say this, okay would you accept that if i told you that we asked the CDC to give us every study that shows they relied upon to say oxycontin is safe and non-habit forming? When they finally did they fought us and he fought us and they came back. It said okay under court order Here they are And they gave us five studies on aspirin not being being safe in non habit-forming Five studies on Tylenol safe and non habit forming five studies on Advil safe and non habit forming There you go Hold on a second I asked about oxycontin

1:05:06 I asked about that drug with heroin essentially in it. That one! Well, we relied on these other studies to determine that one was safe. That's how the science is being done and that's why we are now taking those lawsuit wins we've had and were now moving into civil court cases in New York and California We're going-we're finding our way into being able to sue In a space that was totally indemnified We are working out ways to do that and that's the form consent action network is doing on top of funding all the research we've been doing for the high wire in the reporting we've been doing i highly recommend people go and watch. The last four episodes or so of the high wire it is,

1:05:46 pack the science is packed with links that you get to go and look at and come to your own conclusions. And if you want to help fund this work, which costs us millions of dollars every year all the lawsuits in all the scientists that we find in work with around the world, we can really use your help go to I can decide Dot org that's our nonprofits website and hit the donate button I'm pretty sure we have a donate button on the high wire too So you can also go to the high wire comm to watch the episodes of The High Wire We do not sell any products, even though. I believe in vitamins they don't sell vitamins I don't want anyone telling us what we can report or whether they think they're happy with how we're discussing these issues We want to be totally free To have total free speech and deliver free news

1:06:34 Everything is we find it and that's what we're doing will continue to do. Yes, man. So important thank you for breaking that down and kudos on the win of course people hearing us now should watch The High Wire I would be really lost without it It's available at thehighwire.com and on your YouTube channel which i hope you're backing up regularly at this point We are! Dell you are the man You crushed it today An inspiration to us all Thanks so much for taking the time And keep fighting the good fight Thank you Keep up the good fight too Thanks for keeping real and honest See ya next time Yes, all you cool cats and kittens! Dell BigTree bringing the heat. Bringing the fire I have just been really jazzed up because i know this will be a well-liked show it's a good compliment to Dr. Kaufman

1:07:29 And it seems like the vast majority of people liked Dr. Kaufman, or David Crow even But some found these guys to be a bit extreme and so like I said in this intro Dell is a great bridge between some of the more extreme opinions and the average person That is if we're trying to increase our numbers and I think we should be I've used the phrase educational circle jerk before and as crass as it is what i'm saying a lot of times in conspiracy circles we just get excited about telling each other things we already know, and this more than ever seems like a bad time to be doing that.

1:08:12 And this is polarizing stuff, but my goal is to use shows like this to bring more people to our understanding. Not just to widen the gap between us or call them stupid and propaganda Kool-Aid drinkers We need the numbers and with a show like today you don't need to rethink an entire paradigm To basically come to the same conclusions about this whole COVID 19 thing And I don't know which thought process is more correct. I just know strategically this is an easier pill to swallow for most of the friends and family that we might want to explain our perspective too. Strategy clearly matters, were going up against one hell of an aggressive narrative. Again even this week can't tell if it's breaking down or getting worse

1:09:05 I'm seeing masks everywhere. I've been denied entry for not having a mask in one instance, but we do have the president talking about his three-phase plan even though it feels a little weak. We do have more protests happening now some of what they're calling San Diego's pocket parks are opening but still no to the beach and no on the popular mountain trails And thankfully some of my inner circle is also losing their patience and we even had a couple quarantine breakers, which was a beautiful thing for me to see. Solitary confinement is like the worst thing we do to people so... We can only take so much of it because quality of life matters The goal to me isn't just to breathe as many breaths as possible I want to enjoy the ride

1:09:58 And I think you take a bigger risk to drive on the highway to get here than you would if we had a six-man barbecue. You know what i'm saying? Life's full of risks, this is not new! But on the subject of getting together, We kind of glossed over herd immunity today even though Del mentioned it several times...I didn't think we needed to really get down to herd immunity 101 But we do often hear about herd immunity in the context of vaccines, which is where I think a lot of people's alarm bells start to go off. And of course that is a big pharma sleight-of-hand twist on what is really a very natural phenomenon—don't throw that baby out with the bathwater as they say! There IS reason to think that we can wear out the virus so to speak by having it spread through our healthiest and most robust people there's a real argument for that

1:10:51 And again, there are many layers and perspectives you can take on all this. Are they even looking at a true virus that's making people sick in these tests? Is it just an exosome? Are we still dealing with that mindset that there are no good viruses the same way doctors used to be taught there is no good bacteria? Then of course we learn that that's not true and we have a very robust and populated gut biome full of bacteria, and we might even have a virome which is like all these viruses. People talk about trading viruses by the hundreds when you shake hands with someone! And we were all fine up until...a few short months ago I wanted to say weeks but no we gotta say months now still hard to believe

1:11:42 But as I was trying to say, there's just many ways to look at this. Many layers and perspectives but all roads lead to... This is grossly overhyped The details in the data tell a completely different story The testing treatment and trading of other illnesses all take giant chunks out of those big scary numbers we see on TV And a vaccine poisoned surveillance state is the end goal that WE want to avoid here But it was a perfect time to have Del back. I really loved it, he's a great dance partner for this sort of thing! We had a real good flow going there and we did talk about some stuff that really shocked me the ventilator thing is really sad and quite dark. I've definitely seen a few more stories about it since we recorded this as del predicted

1:15:27 when we already thought China would be at the top and now they're getting a head start. All stuff worth considering, so sign up for PLUS get the second half of this interview and all the interviews I do! I know people are searching for good nerve-calming answers in the wake of all this... And i'm trying guys, i'm trying! I've said before i'm not always the fastest to give you a conspiracy breakdown of this or that but I like to think we can get deeper and more accurate information by taking a breath and finding the right people in the right time. I've said before, i'm not really a researcher but I think i'm good at finding those right people so I obviously need time to digest what's out there before we just throw stuff out and maybe waste a show on bad information... But now I think you can combine David Crowe

1:16:27 Dr. Kaufman, the show we did with Chris and Gordon, the bubble tea video chat that I did with Gordon and now this Dell Bigtree interview And you've got a pretty damn good range of sense-making alternatives! I have some upcoming guests that will probably focus more on the social side of things than less on the medical side... ...and i think that's needed because THAT is the part that's gonna stick with us for A long time, potentially. So there's going to be plenty of room to talk about it and I still want to get into other subjects too right? I can't forget that there is a big wide world out there and this too shall pass

1:17:11 But big thanks to everyone for paying attention. Big thanks to Dell for taking the time, watch The High Wire put it in your rotation he's got an amazing team of people over there and they make a very high quality show how the most enthusiastic vaccine advocate could sit down and watch a few episodes of High Wire and not be convinced boggles my mind So, let it be the resource that it is for you. But I guess thats it for me! We do have a joint session tonight April 22nd Wednesday 7pm Pacific. I look forward to hearing how you guys are dealing with the chaos and how this is affecting your neck of the woods Should be a solid little powwow Join with the link right on the front page of TheHigherSideChats.com Hopefully ill see ya then

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