Charlie Robinson | The Controlled Demolition Of The American Empire & Agenda 2030

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00:51 Which means you'll unfortunately never hear my voice again. 1930s President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed the nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the fireside chats His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times From 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire For a new era of worldly frustration we offer a- I'm Greg Carlwood

01:27 These are the higher side chats. It's the end of the world as we know it, people! But I feel fine from sunny San Diego, I'm Greg Carlwood and as we enter an era of uncertainty like we've never seen it's important to know how we got here We've watched way too many connected corporations grow to an uncontrollable size and get a slap on the wrist if we're lucky for all the scandals that litter their history. We've let politicians and Hollywood puppets wag the finger at us over climate change when the true perpetrators of pollution that's trashed our planet are filling out the Fortune 500 We have said nothing about the Ponzi scheme that is our 401k retirement plans turning a blind eye to investments in the very companies that are killing us and any hope of a healthy independent local marketplace as long as we can retire in style. The education indoctrination system has slowly sucked out any semblance of critical thinking, as our measurable scores in every category have slipped further and further from the rest of the world

02:26 And we watched 9-11 happen with no consequence for those truly responsible, and Hellfire rained down on anyone in the proximity of the unfortunate scapegoat. Looking back there are many places where we could pick out things that went wrong but it's hard to imagine the nefarious few could have gotten to 2020 without many of the things that poured out of 9-11 and The Patriot Act And today's returning guest Charlie Robinson would surely agree as he has just completed a dense and detailed new book with co-author Jeff Berwick entitled The Controlled Demolition of the American Empire from the founding of the Federal Reserve to 9 11, to the Coronavirus Panic. He was here once before talking about his book The Octopus of Global Control and now hosts the Macro Aggressions Podcast one of the best in business

03:11 It's definitely a pleasure to have him back the cephalopod scribe, the octopus author my friend and yours charlie the conspiracy roadmapper robinson welcome back man. Thanks greg best still the best intro in the business probably always will be definitely a pleasure to be back And you're one of my favorite people to get weird with so let's go yes thank you man and i'm psyched to have your again, your first book was pretty all encompassing when it comes to how each sector of society is thoroughly captured by the oily appendages of the big octopus. And this one as well breaks down the path that led us to where we are. The Control Demolition of the American Empire, another great title talk to us about how this new book is different and why control demolition is such a good analogy for what's happening to America? So I was doing Jeff Berwick podcast, The Anarchist back in the summer of 2018 We got done recording it and we were talking off air

04:13 And he said something along the lines of, you know it's all coming down. And I was like elaborate go on and he is like financial systems a house of cards, the trust in government is cratering It's an unsustainable sort of situation and feels like its all ready to come down We went further just started talking about variety things but at the end we should work on something together we should write a book together yeah that sounds good idea let me give it thought Where we could go with this and that line it's all coming down sort of stuck with me because when i. Think of it all coming down to think about coming down like a building like a control demolition of the building in specifically like building seven you know so,

05:02 The way you take down an actual building things like pre weakening it identifying support columns reading the detonators. Ringing the alarm bells pushing down the plunger all these things that you would do on a natural building we can make comparisons to the way you would take down the american empire and of course, The first chapter is built on a rotten foundation. And Jeff and I sort of went in to explore how, well it's sort of the history of empires too which is they follow very predictable life cycle and by all accounts and it is completely undeniable that we are at the final stage of our empire when you look at empires that came before us like as an example the Roman Empire

05:42 As things spiraled out of control there, they expanded their military to a size and scope that they could not maintain. They debased their own currency. They would take their coins and they would clip little pie slice shapes out of the edges of all their coins and collect all those pieces together, melt them down and make them into a new coin. So what the Federal Reserve has been doing for the last hundred years of debasing our currency, they learned from the Romans so it's not a trick that they invented. Then of course the bread and circus is trying to distract populations in what you wind up finding is that with all these empires. The people that were in it the people that were the citizens of it,

06:22 were surprisingly the last to know that it was all coming down because they're propagandized by that empire. They're told that everything is great and that everything's safe and fine, we're protecting you from external enemies, and we just need more money, here's the Roman Colosseum go watch these gladiators don't focus on the fact that we're screwing everything up so we see some of these similarities and you take it in look at it in context where we are in America I take no pleasure in this assessment I'm American lived in america my whole life i've been lucky enough to travel over the world but when you bring someone like jeff berwick who is a canadian who has lived in mexico for the last decade he's an anarchist put on the largest anarchy convention and oracle which happens every february in acapulco mexico and millions of multi-million dollar venture the dollar vigilante that's a guy that sees the world differently win people give him

07:18 a hard time and they say, well you like anarchy so much Jeff why don't you go to Somalia? What does he do? He goes to Somalia with Luke Radowski. And they say let's go take the cameras and see what's going on. Oh! You talk about hyperinflation but you've never lived through it. If you want to talk about hyperinflation go to Venezuela. So he goes to Venezuela oh you want to talk about Epstein? You don't know anything about Epstein. So they raid his island. This is the type of lunatic that I'm writing a book with. He sees the world so differently than everybody else and i love that so when we put our heads together in this what you know initially we felt like, we should write a book as we were writing it. In my mind it sort of shifted to i feel like we almost have an obligation to write this book to finish this because if we can see where things are headed. And we found the evidence of it there's two hundred fifty four footnotes in the books that we tried to document is best we could if we see all this and don't

08:15 Tell the world or sound the alarm bells about it then that's kind of bad karma on us so. Yes, we wanted to get the book out. I wanted it out sooner. It wound up coming out the Friday before the elections and becoming a number one bestseller on election day which is so phenomenal and ironic and perfect because we are just lining up the government in kicking its square in the nuts and for that to happen on election day is perfect because if you read this book, I promise you'll never vote in elections ever again." So the irony was not lost on us. And then the response to it has been Beyond anything i could have expected and i credit that to jeff and jeff's passionate fans and his dollar vigilante anarchist anarcho-poco people that I'm slowly getting to know they're just been wonderful. I think they understand there is a problem, i think everybody understands there some sort of problem but i think they appreciate the way we laid this book out in sort of real easy to read fashion

09:17 You don't have to be a black belt level conspiracy person to read and understand you know we try to make it is appealing to everybody as possible but i think it gets people thinking about. Where were headed as a nation and its both terrifying, and also i think some people are seeing it as an opportunity because of the thing when they talk about what we've been hearing lately that's great reset things like that they talked about how everything is broken in we need to move to this new paradigm and it's like Well, you know I think a lot of people would agree that everything is broken. Not necessarily that we want to move to their paradigm but we do need to make some changes here so i think the part of this book has really resonated with people because they can see the logic in it they can read it and there are also simultaneously gonna find out things that had never even heard of and so we it's been a thrill and i've been really grateful that Jeff and i were able to get this thing out

10:12 Yes man that is a great intro and i definitely learned a lot because there are so many details there's bullet pointed lists when you talk about pollution versus climate change you don't just. say that vaguely like you then list the worst twenty elements of pollution and to see them all stacked up like that in all these different categories it's really shocking but it makes for a great resource a lot of us should have on our shelves. And I heard you talk about that backstory that you are working on this book for a couple years and almost came out in march n, That is just crazy because it would be like putting out a book on false flags in August of 2001. So glad you were able to revise it, because it'd be just outdated without the whole 2020 saga that we've had, because it is the wildest in our lifetimes!

11:04 Yeah. So here I am all bummed out in February that we didn't get it out in time for Narcopolco, and then March rolls around and we both said whoa okay let's pump the brakes let's see how this plays out. And after about the end of August I told Jeff I said I've seen enough how about you? He says yeah I've seen enough let's finish it up let's put the coronavirus situation in there and then sort of thread it through the whole book. What's funny is that wound up being two-and-a-half years from when we started to when it came You're right, it would be like writing a book on false flags in August of 2001. It would be incomplete and so that timing worked out perfect we're really glad that we were able to do that the corona situation is of course is a gigantic curveball now we knew something would trigger this my personal projection was there was going to be Deutsche Bank I really thought Deutsche Bank being this zombie bank

11:53 totally propped up by governments and other banks, that would be the trigger. That would set us all off and it would have a cascading effect and take everything down. I still think Deutsche Bank is a disaster waiting to happen but to be fair and to be totally honest We didn't see the virus angle. I mean, we knew it would be a giant lie. We knew there'd be fraud baked into whatever the trigger event was but the virus situation they got us on that one. We didn't predict that one but luckily we didn't have to put the book out back in February. We were able to take a look at everything and incorporate the plans of The World Economic Forum in this and you mentioned bullet points in the book what's funny is that in my Octopus Of Global Control Book

12:35 Lot of people bought that i got a lot of feedback from the book and people say this is great open my eyes up to a lot of these things which i'm happy to do in that was the intent of the book. But the one compliment that I kept getting in the book, in the octopus book was thank you for putting a lot of bullet points in it. It was easier to read so I was like okay if that's the number one compliment from the book then I guess I'll take it but when it came to the second one I said Jeff we're going to incorporate a lot of bullet points because my research has shown people like the bullet points and put those in because its easier to read It's not to say the whole book is written in bullet points just to be clear, but where applicable do it that way so that the people can sort of get through the information as quickly as possible. Well I think that is a great part of the book and maybe I'm a victim of it too but we've been dumbed down so severely then maybe we just needed a nice little digestible bullet points even though you got 400 pages of unfortunate conspiracy goodness and all those sources

13:35 It is a hefty one, man. I'm impressed and anyone who's been in the conspiracy game for awhile knows that this theme of we're at the end has been a part of it since like before i was born In some grim way maybe its natural to want to be around for the end? Who wants to leave in the middle of the movie right? when you say the end of the American empire, what does that really mean to you? Because you're not saying it's the end of America itself. Right? Right. It's not to say that it's the end of America. We look at it kind of like this 30 years ago we had the Soviet Union and the Soviet Union was dragged into an unwinnable 10 year war in Afghanistan. We've doubled that Of course they had their currency manipulated by outside forces That's happening to us There was no trust In soviet media You have of course Pravda

14:25 and people knew that that was straight propaganda coming from the state. We're experiencing the same thing, of course we even have the Smith-Munt modernization act of 2012 which legalized propaganda inside the United States to be used on Americans so we quite literally have Pravda in our country And then of course there was the corrupt politicians towards the tail end of the Soviet run where they were looting the place with their oligarch buddies. They were stealing everything that wasn't nailed down, they were outsourcing things to their oligarchs. They knew the end was near and so when you take a look at the Soviet Union falling apart in 91', you go... The comparisons and similarities are astounding between where we are now much like the Soviet Union broke apart

15:10 They had to prioritize mother russia so they left go their control of latvia and czechoslovakia you can slobby all these satellite nations that they had part of this union it just became russian in a bunch of. State have the autonomy so we see this sort of similarity for the american empire where it's not so much that america itself ceases to exist, But the concept of the empire goes away are thousand military bases all around the globe or use of the petro dollar in that us dollars the world's reserve currency, our use of sanctions the way that we. Use the carrot and stick because of our

15:49 very strong economic force, our use of the swift banking system where everything sort of funnels through that. Where we can say well if you're Iran or Venezuela or Cuba and you're not playing ball with us, we just turn your access off to that. You know all these dirty tricks that we've been using because of the arrangement that we have those sorts of things will go away And America won't be the superpower that it once was because the plan requires that there no longer be superpowers standing in the way. These maniacs that want to run this entire world under a one-world government, there's certain things that need to happen in advance of that. The first thing is there cannot be superpower so the Soviet Union was taken out three decades ago and the American empire has been slated for destruction as well and after you live through 2020 and beyond which

16:35 I'm not trying to be pessimistic, but don't see things just magically getting better once the calendar changes. The idea of America being brought down becomes not just this sort of idea that we have talked about since before we were born that the end is near and things like that It becomes real tangible it becomes a real possibility people actually see it's not as big of a leap to make after what we've experienced so. You know it's an interesting time it's like that chinese saying the character for danger is the same characters opportunity so we got a little danger with got a little opportunity it's not just say you know i don't want to bomb everybody out and say what's all over but

17:20 The current paradigm that we've been living in is definitely over its changing now. That doesn't mean that everything that comes in the wake of it is going to be horrible know what the globalist people would like for it to be horrible, but there's still a chance here we still have humanity you know we still have the possibility so it's important for people to realize when we're writing this book on the one hand were not trying to scare people necessarily, and we're not trying to scare people for no good reason. We're trying to alert people to what's actually coming and happening now if that is scary then process that and deal with it accordingly but it's not to say that the end of the American Empire is-is the end of America and frankly let's be honest some of the components of the American Empire need to go away you know our behavior around the globe has been reprehensible. We had 9 11

18:14 And after that, regardless of the backstory of 9-11. But we had 9-11 and we had the sympathy of the world for a time And America could have used that to pivot and do amazing things, you know. And use that moment to kind of bring the world together. That did not happen we use that as the pretext to go invade Afghanistan which literally had nothing to do with 9-11 and then we use the same then we drummed up the fake weapons of mass destruction for Iraq and then we went to Libya then we went to Somalia and we started working on Syria and all these things it's like The American Empire had this

18:51 Catastrophic incident called nine eleven and then took that news that is the opportunity to be the biggest monster on the planet and start to do these things in the name of freedom in the name of fighting terror by creating more terror. And so you know i mean if people are being honest they look at the american empire and they say well i wouldn't be so sad if it went away, no and i personally would be so sad if it went away either because we've got What's like an alcoholic right who is coming to the first step is acknowledging that we have a problem and a lot of people in america and a lot of people in the media spend their times trying to convince others. That everything is fine but everything is not fine it's okay to admit that everything is not fine its the first step in changing things as the first step in making things different so when we talk about the end of the american empire there something good in that is well will be painful,

19:48 Transitions and changes always painful specially if you let the globalist people be in charge of the transition it will not go our way but i think a lot of people would agree that, the current situation that we're living is unsustainable behavior around the globe thousand military bases constant lies on the media no lies from the government. What if we had a mass awakening and realize that needed to change in the price for that to change was we have to get rid of this american empire think a lot of people would be fine with that. Yeah i agree it's definitely a situation of mixed feelings because nobody i know an america wants to feel as if they're living high on the hog at the expense of others around the globe,

20:31 Even though we know that to be partially true, though a lot of it's hidden which makes it easy to ignore. But then you start thinking To what degree would my life have to change if we dismantled all the systems that I hate but also rely on or am addicted too? And it gets a bit hairy because even if something sucks like a job We tend to stick with what we know Because something radically unknown is even more intimidating And the alcoholic analogy is a good one. Or it's like having an abusive father where you think, sure he would drink and take the belt out or he slapped mom around a little bit here and there but you still can't help but be sad at his funeral because a bad dad is still a dad and maybe the same thing is true for country

21:17 For sure. And I think that the relationship that we have with our government is that of an abusive relationship? Yeah, I mean if your girlfriend treated you or your wife treated you in a way that your government did, you'd get a restraining order against her. You know what I mean? It's insane but because it's the only system that most of us have lived under its normalized and we think and we don't know how else it would work if it doesn't work this way so there's fear baked into that of course because change can be scary but And that's understandable. That it's probably something hardwired into us, but I think that a lot of times after you've had a big transformation in your life or transitional period you look back on it and go oh that was really good for me. It put me on a different path. It was a little scary early on but I'm glad I'm here and I see things differently now so...I fear the fact with change like this comes

22:15 You know massive disruption and a lot of people aren't prepared in it. Can you remind me of the darwin thing every people are still darwin's theory is only the strong survive an actuality what he was saying was, only those that are able to adapt will survive so this adaptation that americans. Americans in particular we have to embark on its big process and it's A lot of people are like man i don't have time for this i don't wanna have to learn to live in a new paradigm, i just got used to this one and i've got kids in school and i have to go to my job because i'm lucky enough to still have one everything so we're talking about this in.

22:54 You know we're writing about this in twenty nineteen now if i was trying to tell people about this empire is coming down and twenty nineteen. People would be like yeah well i get it i mean its probably gonna happen but i don't know, what when you try to tell people about it towards the tail end of twenty twenty in the book comes out and your like it's all coming down there like oh yeah oh no not like we see it so it's about it's all about timing And then what are we gonna do it we're gonna get a passively sort of take this new paradigm that's being rolled out for us through the maniacs of the world economic forum i'm not really open to that i'm not interested in that but. It's fascinating because we acknowledge that things are going to change we know deep down things need change,

23:36 What is that what are they going to change too and thats kind of the most important part who's gonna leave this change if it led by thinkers in people better being honest about the role of government in the world media and the roll up, If somebody that says, we've been doing it wrong. I think we envision this change to be something without the influence of the mainstream media. Okay, on board with that for sure but if its... We're gonna leave this current paradigm for something new and its going to be called The Great Reset well then you can count me out on that. Im not interested Right right and that is a great point because the end of the american empire does not mean the end of the american elite or the true puppet masters because. Empires rise and fall but it does seem like the capstone cabal tends to migrate from husk to husks so to speak at least their ideas do for sure yeah where we go with this is interesting because

24:36 The world economic forum has rolled out this concept of the great reset and when you hear the sales pitch, you know it's like any good lie there is a fair amount of truth in it they say well we got these massive inefficiencies and people living. In situations that are untenable and there's poverty and homelessness and all these things and we can fix that The capital is system that setup is creating these massive inequalities we got super wealthy people in dirt poor other people and. We need to fix it you're going yes yes yes and then they say and the solution as your own nothing in twenty thirty and you'll never be happier like. Hang on nope not interested in that if you had me up until you started saying I will own nothing and all be happy about it, yeah so i think its one of these things where

25:28 Don't fall for the glossy marketing campaign because. Look, I wasn't around when the Soviet Union pitched communism. But I'm sure they pitched it as unicorns and rainbows and blue sky and plenty of food for everybody. And of course we saw what happened. We get gray Soviet era buildings that all look super depressing. We've got babushkas and bread lines and things like that. We have the videos of people going to shop in Moscow in the 80's and the stores are totally empty of food. So just...I hope people realize that sales pitch you're getting Is going to look very different from reality right that's true too and. Agenda twenty thirty gets mentioned a lot but it doesn't get broken down all that often in the book you list their seventeen stated goals which are of course rose colored but then you write about what's behind those goals and, you paint a great picture i mean not so to speak of what the world looks like in twenty thirty if they achieve there full plan talk to us about that little bit

26:29 what do you see twenty thirty looking like for the average middle class american if they were to get their way yeah we heard we won't own anything like that something people talk about a lot but dive deeper into that. Yeah well i think the most alarming component of this is something that, Is quite literally straight out of a black mirror episode but of course it's true the reality is happening now and that is the social credit system this is a component of. Agenda twenty thirty that is part of it now, it used to be agenda twenty one this is the plan for the twenty first century can move the goalpost back about thirty years instead we're gonna call it agenda twenty thirty and it is

27:11 Self-driving cars in the internet of things and universal basic income and smart cities everybody is tied into this. Massive network in this network mostly run by artificial intelligence and their compiling data on you and feeding that into some place part where they want to go is into a social credit system now, this is all theoretical for us in the united states we think about it as This may happen in the future, but in Shenzhen China. It's actually happening right now this is already in operation they have hundreds of millions of Not just closed-circuit TV cameras But facial recognition cameras that are throughout all of China but specifically in Shenzhen and what they're doing Is they're rolling out this system where if a guy walks out of his house in China and Shenzhen He goes to get to the bus stop gets on the bus lights up a cigarette on the bus

28:07 My name is on business smoking on the bus which is not supposed to do facial recognition cameras pick up this guy immediately running through the database match him to who he is paying his cell phone by the time you get off of this bus that says, you have been found in violation of smoking on a bus you've been find. The equivalent of no fifty dollars that money is deducted out of their Account which is sort of like a paypal account like a weibo account. And by the time that guy gets off the bus, he's been found guilty. He's been fined that money has been deducted out of his account and his social credit score goes down now what the social credit score does is it's a measure of who you are as a person how compliant you are how participatory you are in all sorts of government related events and things like that if you have a high score That guy wants to go rent a car or run a bicycle somewhere. He's gonna get a discount on it

29:06 Because his score is very high if your score gets too low you're not even allowed to get on the high-speed train or airlines. You literally locked out of the system now that, is happening right now and it's blocked I think the number I saw was something like 70 thousand different people have been trying to get on airplanes and they're not allowed to because their scores too low so just take that concept Export that to the united states which of course is where it's going and think about the ramifications of that in conjunction with agenda twenty thirty were you living in the smart cities, what the internet of things your toasters talking to your fridge in your fridges reporting to your health care provider this guy but too many cokes and here there's too many

29:49 You know, this guy's got birthday cake in the fridge. He's got wine he's got all kinds of bad stuff We're gonna raise your health care premiums because your fridge ratted you out to your healthcare provider now that sounds totally insane right now for us What is coming and it's part of this and its be normalized in were sort of getting ourselves ready for this and we have social media course. Guys like us have had our struggles with social media so no doubt are social credit score would be rather low but then they've created a new component of it which is so devious,

30:25 that you have to stand in appreciation of how evil these people are but in the same scenario about the guy smoking on the bus now. All the guys that that guy reaches out all his friends and his circle of friends he calls emails or text after that, Their scores go down now too because of him right because of their association with this low score having smoker guy So now you start to work on the social pressure of this to conform And once again, when you're just hearing about this it sounds theoretical. But now when we incorporate it into our lives and look at it currently for what we've been going through think about it with the way the mask situation works You're somebody that's not wearing a mask because you don't want to wear a mask and screw them and I'm gonna go to the grocery store without it When you walk into that grocery store, you're on camera

31:18 And everywhere you go, you're on camera. So now they match that to your facial recognition theoretically and your score goes down because you're not wearing a mask and we see how the social shaming has been working because the Karen's of the world are out there telling everybody to put their masks on and we're seeing all the videos of this so it's not that far of a reach for people to figure out how this is going to look moving forward And of course, the whole pretext of this is that it's for the betterment of society. It's this social contract that we all didn't sign but are supposed to pretend like we did, that I have to do what's best for society at the expense of myself. I have to look out for the greater good and when they roll something out like this with a social credit score and tie it into the Internet of Things and everything that comes with Agenda 2030

32:09 Even the most casual observer gets the creeps from this because they see where this is going to see where the ramifications of this i mean it's like you understand that there will be. Outright censorship because of things like this but then they'll be unquantifiable self-censorship that nobody can ever quite, Measure but the fact that you don't say what your thinking. On an email because you know that it will submarine not just your social credit score but your friends score as well, that might be the most devious component of at all right its true and you can already see the seeds of it with all this snitching that's going on

32:53 It's so sad how easy that was to turn communities in on each other with all this tattletaling on who is fighting back or not even fighting back but just trying to quietly keep their business running despite Gavin Newsom lockdown order. And I am happy to say that a San Diego judge did overturned yesterday and said no actually restaurants can be open, strip clubs can be opened. Now you got churches calling themselves strip clubs so they can skate by Probably not paying taxes like strip clubs, and I'm sure this will all get kicked up the ladder. And who knows how long it will last? But it is good to see something besides just feeble compliance

33:32 You know i spend a lot of time on the san diego subreddit and they're all little snitches about small businesses trying to do their thing. And they talk about making lists so that they know who not to support even when this is all over it's like what are you even talking about your killing your own community right clearly these people have never held there own fate in her hands and had it ripped away like this it's really easy to sit at home, on unemployment or with enough money in the bank that you can sit around and judge other people who don't have that luxury it's frustrating man but i did wanna read this part from your book where you paint a picture much like the outline that he just gave us, what is a few different notes to add its nice tight little package are u right.

34:19 The goal is to create two different groups of humans like the feudal society of serfs and kings. The lower class of useless eaters gets fed the nutrientally deficient GMO food, and they can chase it down with fluoride-laden polluted water—the same water that will be strictly rationed due to water shortages! They will be forced to live in 300 square foot micro apartments inside high density cities in order to combat global warming, and their carbon footprint will be monitored and taxed through the smart grid while imposing force austerity on the masses. Due to tight living quarters vaccination will be mandatory for herd immunity and all children need to fully immunized with all 100 plus shots before they are allowed to attend government schools teaching common core

35:04 All cash will be outlawed and instead everything will be moved into digital currency in the form of a microchip that everyone will have implanted under the skin to conduct all financial transactions courtesy of the world bank. What is really great summary of, their version for our future but i do try to not get too freaked out about this stuff and remind people that the plan is just a plan sometimes they only get half of what they want sometimes eighty percent maybe twenty we don't know. But it's certainly not set in stone and its important to see the road there trying to pave but also, not get caught up in this mindset that it's all already over you know?

35:50 Yeah, that's really a good point. There is still time left in this and let us remember we are the ants they are the grasshoppers we outnumber them 1 million to one as the movie goes so we do have this power were propagandized to make us feel that we don't and part of that is they keep us divided and fighting with each other What you write this is their plan it's there business plan let's just say now it doesn't mean that everything that they have planned is going to roll out but you can see where its going and you can see the video put their presentations out there for people to see.

36:26 It's hysterical to me when people call you a conspiracy theorist for something like this one it's like no. We're conspiracy analysts we're not the rising about this stuff this is in their writings this isn't the presentations that they get this isn't the world economic forum at davos when they talk about these things openly it's in there, writings and club of rome When their books the limits to growth where they wrote about that they were going to invent the concept of global warming back in nineteen seventy one and use it as a pretext. Push everybody into a one world government with carbon tax not me speculating about that its me analyzing there work is they write about because its important to them there isn't do you ask about this, as we are about stopping

37:11 But the difference is they have control over the media, they have access to governments. They have almost unlimited money and they take a very long term approach and yet the rest of us we're still arguing about whether or not this plan is even a real thing you know so were at severe disadvantage in that sense In the fact that they know how to work us you know they don't get a fighting and divided working against each other. And therefore expending all of our energy so we can focus on the real problem which is of course them but things are changing and i feel very good about one thing it's not the greatest component of this but,

37:50 These people tend to overplay their hand and weather that be some form of rushing a vaccine to market little too quickly or you know getting caught fake injecting people on tv and things like that There's a certain segment of the population that is gonna see those sorts of things and wake up they're gonna say wait a second what's going on here so we always have to keep in mind that yes it is their plan and yesterday are very good and there very patient, put in your plan into place but sometimes they're not very creative they run the same plays over and over again.

38:26 And as human beings, we're very good at pattern recognition. So we see the same sorts... If we see a pattern forming and were like hang on a second it just kind of jumps out at us and when you see the same types of false flags over and over again You go hang on a second I know this script! I've seen something similar to this before and so there is something good in this in that they could overplay their hand with the corona situation. I mean, I don't think that there were The legit body count that they hoped for or thought there would be And so it's kind of a you know i had david ice on my show two weeks ago and i was talking to him about that today but i wasn't alive for the black plague but.

39:06 I get the feeling that it didn't need a public relations department, but it was self-evident that there was a plague sweeping the nation. But yet here right now, it seems like we're watching a gigantic marketing campaign for a virus. It's been normalized into commercials as a way to kind of get you feeling about every 10 minutes on the radio someone saying hey make sure you wear your mask make sure your social distance these are the types of things that people that are awake paying attention to things they go Why are you selling this so hard? If there's, if there was an end to be clear. I'm glad there's not bodies stacked up on the sidewalk everywhere.

39:46 But it's not happening. So is this going to be a thing? Is this gonna backfire, Greg? Is this gonna be the thing that wakes up... is this gonna be the new 9-11 in two senses—in the sense that it's a gigantic false flag but also that it wakes up a new generation of people that go hang on a second The official story to this event doesn't make any sense there are big problems with it if this is a lie what else is a lie and I mean 9-11 did it for me so I wonder After all is said and done we get a couple years down the road from this. We look back on this and we have a whole new generation of people that go, yeah I was pretty much asleep until the corona situation then you know the tick tock videos of nurses dancing in the hospitals are overflowing but nobody's actually there the fact that nobody knows that many people nobody knows anybody died from it i should not maybe im being a bit over-the-top with that statement but i mean its not

40:41 self-evident that there is a pandemic. It has to be marketed and so maybe, and maybe this is wishful thinking on my part but maybe it wakes people up, maybe it backfires on them and that would be tremendous if that happened but it's going to require people to turn their televisions off just turn off the mainstream media at the bare minimum because what they're doing to us They're trying to mind control us and get us into seeing this world in a much different way. But I always go back to the Bill Hicks quote, you know everyone knows it and i put it in my octopus book You open the window stick your head out And its crickets! It's nothing We don't see it but Go back into your house turn on CNN and they would have you believe that the sky is falling

41:27 It's very true it's very sure and i agree with what you're saying i do. Kind of recoil at that or i want to start issuing a disclaimer is that the whole thing about you know nobody's dying because yes that's the pushback i get more than any i get people writing me that say i used to love your show but my grandma died or my neighbors mom died of cove it and your irresponsible with the way you're having these conversations n, I'm not going to push back on someone who's grieving. I would just say, I'm sorry for your loss." But the reality is what do you know about that person's illness? What do you really know about it? Probably nothing and

42:09 And I've had people make the point that in a normal year, X amount of people die of pneumonia. X amount of people die from the flu but even beyond that, people get sick and they have similar flu-like symptoms and they go to the hospital in their old age and they die and it's marked down as flu or pneumonia. Well there's actually, I would say at least dozens if not hundreds of different little things that get us sick And it's not like they're getting a flu test at the hospital or pneumonia test at the hospital. They're like, this person is 90 and it looks like they died of pneumonia because we've seen these symptoms before and that's true in a normal year. This year obviously they are writing down COVID for a lot of other things so I'm sorry that your 101-year old great grandma died but when you say she died of COVID

43:00 I'm a little skeptical of that and what that really means yes they wrote it down but you know its hard because i don't want to get into it with specific people that i care about who have deaths in the family because that isn't looking good look for us at all right but at the same time. What your told and what you know are not necessarily the same thing yes i think a lot of people are getting sick people like trust have said I got this thing and it hit me in a way that no other illness has sure. They didn't go to the hospital even talk to a doctor and they got over as they would the flu so i don't know if there's something new out there i've never said is a hoax i've never said that you know, there's nothing making people sick everything's making people sick we have so many god damn toxins in our environment were eating nutrient lead devoid food that whole thing about

43:53 You know, feeding us the GMO food that's already happening. The fluoridated water that's already happening. Maybe the electrical environment has changed there so many different things making people sick I'm only saying what is written on that paper might not be what killed them in the same way that flu and pneumonia is a catch all term for a lot of things we haven't even identified in the world So...I don't know Yeah! I am with you too There's a difference between dying from COVID and dying with it. And I'm not trying to say it's not a real thing either, and I'm also trying to say yeah, I'm grateful that it's not as dangerous as they said it is but there has been some overt fuckery going on with the numbers with the way they classify the deaths you know even the article that came out

44:40 I don't know if it was written from the CDC or if they were quoting the CDC early on. It said like 169,000 deaths from coronavirus and that's the headlines and everything but if you read the article and you go three paragraphs down it says Though 169,000 people died only about 6% we can attribute to actually dying from coronavirus. The other 94% died with coronavirus and on average 2.6 other comorbidity conditions so that's a huge difference you know we're talking about

45:16 6% of 169,000 as opposed to a hundred and sixty nine thousand. That's wordplay that's how the media goes about trying to Frame things to make things sound like a bigger deal than they are if they had just said six percent of one hundred and sixty nine thousand people are dead Well, okay So what are we talking about ten thousand people? That's not a pandemic I feel bad for all those ten thousand people and their families you don't ever want to see this i'm not trying to be cold hearted i'm just saying that from a statistical standpoint the numbers don't add up people are recognizing that and so now the numbers three hundred thousand was it three hundred thousand or is it six percent of three hundred thousand because you can't say, all these people are dying the cdc says they're all dying and then. When I bring up the fact that yeah but the CDC also said this actually only six percent of that number you got no don't listen to that the cdc set over here it's like

46:14 which facts are we gonna argue with because i've got the same organization that you're quoting saying something vastly different. Much like we've got fauci and these other people say don't wear the mask it doesn't work at all psychological in march right so they're saying one thing then we get three months later and sick oh you gotta where's the mask greg if your not wearing a mask, are you trying to kill grandma what you know so this is regardless of how people feel about this virus This is a psychological operation. It is undeniable it is following all of the patterns of a psychological operation introducing one set of information Telling everybody that that's the only source of information you can go to and then halfway through Switching it all up giving people the exact opposite and saying no No, don't listen to the first thing that we told you was true Listen to the second thing And if you don't wear the mask

47:07 Now we're telling you, you got to wear the mask. But if you don't wear the mask, if you're out God forbid playing with your kids at a park like that mother was, We're going to arrest you in front of your kids. We're gonna close down your gym. We're gonna drag you out of your tattoo shop. We're gonna board it up. We're gonna turn your water and power off Garcetti in LA These are the types of things that lead to revolutions. I mean, to be perfectly honest with you, you start pushing people around back and forth and you introduce... This is a psychological operation to keep the American people totally destabilized. And you know what winds up happening at the end of these operations? People throw their hands up in air and they say, I'll do whatever you want me to do just make the goddamn thing stop! Just make it all stop okay?! What do you want? You want me to wear a mask? I'll wear a mask. Just make it stop but the thing is it's never gonna stop

47:55 Don't put a line in the sand then they'll cross it. Oh, you just wear that slow the curve for 15 days It's true Joe Biden says where the mass first hundred days of my presidency Then it'll go away You believe that guy nobody believes that guy this is the slippery slope of trusting in psychopaths and not Understanding the much bigger play that they have laid out for us so it gets a lot of people frustrated I understand the mask wearing people That are like How dare you unmasked people come out here in the middle of a pandemic and get the rest of us sick, and now we have to restart this whole thing because if you'd always stayed in your house and wore your mask it would've worked. And you're like, If only that were true! You know? If only that were true... It would be great

48:40 But let's have a conversation about the efficacy of masks. Okay, let's talk about the fact that you've got people wearing bandanas around their face okay and you're gonna call me anti-science? Get the fuck out here with that nonsense! You know what I mean it's preposterous and then when you point out the obvious absurdity of it all what do you get for your troubles? You get called a conspiracy theorist that wants to kill grandma... It's so frustrating And then you do what anyone does which is. You just start to kind of back away and you go okay i'm not gonna engage in this on twitter healthy are you some jerk on twitter about this should this can't be, i'm not gonna fight somebody at produce section of the bonds because i'm not wearing my mask me and everybody's high strong but if you see this as a all encompassing psychological operation to train people to turn on each other

49:34 To view each other as less than to view each other is less than human you know to cover your the lower half of your face. Is so you know social cues are misunderstood and and the psychological impact of wearing a mask in what that actually means it's like a form of submission and then there is this self policing component. You know janet napolitano used to say if you see something say something right so now everybody i'm gonna call the police because there's too many cars in my neighbors driveway on thanksgiving, well you know what we went from were all in together two i'm gonna rat out my neighbor for having too many people over at thanksgiving so its been they've done a number on us

50:15 And until we collectively recognize that and realize, we shouldn't be fighting with each other. There's a much bigger enemy here. We're going to be at a disadvantage as long as they've got us divided. They've always divided us into white and black and Republican and Democrat rich and poor all these things will now they've divided this down into masks in non mask vaccines and non vaccine science and anti-science and all the things that come along with that so they've done this as a tactic to keep us distracted and agitated and down on the reservation, and not rising up collectively as the massive group of ants that we are in challenging the grasshoppers that are running this show. Because if we were to do that this whole game ends."

50:59 And that's the reality of this and they know that and those of us in this community we understand this but the vast majority people don't realize the power that they have, that they actually have the power to change all of this if we just put our differences aside just temporarily. You go back to hating someone later for their political affiliation but right now the priority is all of us coming together and fighting against this tyrannical government International global syndicate that is trying to take us to a place where we may never be able to escape from the digital prison that they're building around us.

51:38 Is a form of society that will become normalized and we may not ever be able to escape from it so it's so important for people to wake up right now in part of that is my frustration is the feel like i just want to grab people's heads ago just look at this evidence you know what screen course that doesn't work and i found out the hard way but that doesn't work. You don't great like you know people better super religious and they get very define this new religion and they go out, It changes their life it makes them feel so much better they just want to tell you about it you know the smart talk to you about not to annoy you but because, they know that its change their life. I feel so much better and hope that would do the same thing for you so we wanna talk about it that's kinda where i am right now with this i feel this enthusiasm obligation to talk about where we are in what's coming because i feel like if people can understand this

52:35 Then it will change their perception of the world and they'll be able to position themselves to not fall into this trap, but I have to walk that line between being enthusiastic about it and being psychotic about. So yeah so i've had a bit in realize and change my attitude and my expectations for the general public and i come to realized that I am going to present this information to those that are willing. To accept it and if you are unwilling or unable, do process this information no offense but i'm not gonna spend a whole lot of my time on you i'm gonna prioritize and focus on the people that have the ability to wake up because as they say its hard to wake a person who's pretending to be asleep

53:27 Well said and as were watching the sun set on the american empire i guess is there anything more to say about what we can do we see these traps being laid and it feels like we're being pushed right into them what's the point of seeing if we're just gonna walk right in you know i don't think it can be stopped in a major way at this point. But how could it be avoided especially outside of saying, That whole thing about like should we leave or should we stay and assuming we've gotten as far as we can by having the conversation what can a knowledgeable individual do to navigate the road from here to twenty thirty.

54:07 Will we make the comparison to the way it must have been on december twenty six two thousand and four in bondage indonesia windows people woke up that morning went down to the ocean, end the water was gone. It just wasn't there with a tide level where it normally was they couldn't even see it The water was so far out there and they thought it was fascinating and it was interesting let's go take pictures in a minute what how far can i go to walk out into the ocean where used to be and see what we can see this is so fascinating then, what is happening here and for those that had the experience.

54:45 that recognize the signs they knew what that meant they knew that that meant that the water was going out because it was about to come back in a giant tsunami and they headed for higher ground and in fact, a lot of animals headed for hire instinctively new what that met and we feel like this is important for us too. let people know what's coming so that they can head to higher ground we have no illusions the people going to be able to stop this it would be nice i'm not saying give up. But it requires all of us to sort of be awake to this and rise up collectively and frankly i just don't have that sorta faith in humanity at this current moment i wish i did but i dont,

55:27 So in the absence of that, the next best thing is get yourself to higher ground. To the proverbial higher ground. Get your friends, your family whoever will listen to you make the moves now to put yourself in a position where you don't get... The wave doesn't come and wash you away and that might be getting out of the city where you live and that might be getting productive farmland and growing your own food it might mean different things to different people But the awareness of it that it's coming getting yourself out of the banking system we did a chapter in the book about how when you put your money into the bank. In america at least when you put your money into the bank it becomes the property of the banks to become an unsecured creditor of the bank now you may think thats my money in my bank account go give me my money back and they'll give it to right now,

56:22 If you have a banking situation where let's say your local bank manager steals all the money out of the vault and bails out of town, you have the FDIC. They'll make you whole on that but if you have systemic banking collapse and you think that the FDIC is going to be there to bail you out because your account is insured up to $250,000 well guess what? The FDIC only has about 2% of that money On hand they can't cover all of that and by the way once you put your money into the bank account it became the property. Of the banks in your unsecured creditor so guess what it's not your money, you're not even in first position on your money to bank is in the bondholders after that you like in third position so something like that is important to know if you want a plan accordingly maybe get your money out of the bank now

57:13 And do whatever you want if you're talking about physical gold and physical silver or crypto things like that listen i'm not licensed to give. Investment advice on that i am licensed to give real estate advice cuz i've been a real estate broker for twenty years so get yourself some productive farmland if your financial ability to do that of course, Or land with water rights underneath it things like that we're gonna have to view things a little differently being cooped up in the city i think is exposing how dangerous and how vulnerable people can be so. If anything good has come out of this first batch of insanity that we've been experiencing this year, it's the people have woken up to the fact that will hang on a second were very dependent on some external forces like just in time supply chain shipping together as our food what about our medicines where do our medicine come from well they come from china. That is if you're still buying big pharma medicines

58:09 So it's been an awakening for a lot of people to see that this system that we think is so stable and is so concrete, is really reverts back to what berwick was telling me about. This whole thing being house cards ready to come down we've gotten a little taste of that it is possible that everything can come down relatively quickly You know if we were having this conversation twelve months ago and i was explaining to you that in this book i foresee that we're all gonna be wearing masks and we're all gonna be cooped up in our house like get out of here there's no possible way thats can happen just look, how things have transpired in just nine months or so so it's important for us. To wake up to the fact

58:51 What we think is solid and tangible will never change in the solidity and comfort of knowing that we have us dollars in our pocket us dollars at best. All this can change and has changed and will continue to change so embrace it, acknowledge it wake up to make some moves start thinking a couple steps ahead these maniacs certainly are there thinking many steps ahead so we should be doing the same thing so, use twenty twenty is the way cup call to shake you out of this in a sort of normalcy bias that you had all these years that we've all had.

59:30 And get us to start looking at things differently. What's the worst that can happen? Look, we all owe the preppers an apology do not I mean we've been goofing on them for a long time crazy preppers and doomsday preppers on the history channel. I'm sorry Preppers! I apologize to you directly forever goofing on you You were right We should all be prepared 2020 The Great Awakening Get yourself prepared So how we recognize these signs if we recognize them at all And what we do to prepare ourselves accordingly is going to make the difference so don't say you weren't warned don't say didn't have time to get your act together were in a position now where we have to start. Acknowledging some very difficult truth switches that the government does not work for us they do not have our best interest at heart,

1:00:18 Big pharma is not your friend you're nightly news is lying to you that is their job is to program you into a version of the world it does not actually exist so. Acknowledge that deal with make moves accordingly position yourself, even benefit from this like we said danger and opportunity both of those are coming in frankly once the proverbial tsunami comes in It's going to clear out a lot of the debris that's been holding us back for long long time so it's how we deal with this is how we position ourselves. Do you benefit from this or if you wanna just curl up in ball and cry and suck your thumb and say make it go away look they've got plans for you, it's not gonna be good where can i need to stand up to this

1:01:10 I've been increasingly been feeling like it's now or never and i know people been saying that for a long time but boy, really feels like if we're wrong what's the worst that happened. We got prepared we saw the world differently we started talking to our neighbors more because we thought that was going to be prepped with bottom of extra food and batteries in things like that you eat the food you know me there is a lot they can come out of this There's a lot of change coming in that change can be good and that change can be bad but if you're aware of what's happening now, where it can go and you make moves to get yourself ready in advance.

1:01:54 You will be very thankful that you did that and yes people are going to tell you that your crazy in. Blowing this out of proportions but don't worry about that because you have a responsibility yourself your here getting this information from greg you been listening to greg for years like i have the informations here, When did be terrible if you had all this information and then you chose not to do anything with it i mean the benefit of this show is that your getting an alternative view reality. That can be potentially very helpful for you but if it stops there with just absorbing this information in you don't take any action because of it, letting yourself down and missing opportunity to take advantage of this great informational resource that you have that not everybody has found yet

1:02:44 So do something about it you'll be thankful that he did. Great advice. I appreciate the kind words and you know we're recording this just before the grand conjunction and the winter solstice which is that point that so many people are pointing to, And i'm trying to get ahead of the holidays this probably won't come out until after the first year but it could be a totally different world if The emphasis people are putting on this date actually really means anything which can be a bit of coin flip based on prior predictions We see there's trouble ahead and you're gonna have to be your own savior. There's just no other way, way to say it but man this has been really great talking to definitely loved the book any parting words for the people probably best to tell them a bit about your podcast since these are podcast listeners right? Sure absolutely my podcast is called Macroaggressions

1:03:38 It's been a trip man it's been really fun to do it i did two shows a week one is monologue one isn't interview have interesting guests on you can find it on apple and spotify in our radio. David x video platform iconic and rock fan and youtube so i'm, made the effort to put it as many places as i can for people to find it just another area for people to get connected with interesting people that we found to come on the show and spend a great outlet for me And of course my books the octopus of global control is available on amazon as well as the new book control demolition of the american empire and if people want to connect with me you can do so on twitter at macro aggressions although i will tell you right now i've already been kicked off of twitter once this year so.

1:04:28 I make no promises that i will be there in the long term because you know they don't seem to care for my thoughts on this but a more permanent place to find me is my website the octopus of global control dot com right on yeah and uh, i'm a big fan of the podcast too. You do a great job and i also am wrestling with the censorship thing i mean youtube time out right now and the reality is i think we need to stop trying to have one foot in and one foot out YouTube twitter and facebook these things were new at one time but now we know what they are and can we really say where counterculture for participating in these platforms i'm pretty content to just let it all burn, have people come to my website because if you're if your counter culture if you're gonna embody that punk rock spirit. It's not gonna happen on youtube or facebook and its almost weird

1:05:22 Try but either way man yes love the book great podcast it was fun talking to you i will have to do again sometime but i appreciate everything you keep fighting a good fight and take care. And i appreciate everything that you do too because i love your show i've been a listener for very long time And i love that i'm gonna get aspects of things that i never even considered things that i didn't know existed or people that i had never heard of it's a great melting pot. Information and ideas in what we do with that you know where we get exposed to it, We process it, some of it we take with us. Some of it we don't but I found that your show has been such a great area for me to get exposed to new and interesting people and ideas that I'd never considered so thank you for doing what you're doing and I hope that maybe my show Macroaggressions will get people as enthusiastic about it as they have been about THC over the years. I'm sure well but thanks again man! It was fun

1:06:24 Guided by the light, ladies and gentlemen. Or really I guess I should have started with a happy festivus because we definitely aired some grievances today Kind of past the season though Anyway Charlie Robinson! Yes One of my favorite people in the conspiracy culture when it comes to what I guess i'm gonna start calling The New Guard People who just want justice honesty truth opportunity peace love and happiness you know We're just two guys and we're having a good time. For the five people who get that reference, but it's also pretty important for me to say that we recorded this before the events at The Capitol I wanted to make sure that i had enough shows to get THC through the holidays when it is harder to book things And so we recorded this right before the end of the year

1:07:21 Then I thought, well this is a topic that we've hit several times in a row so i threw Isaac Weisopp in beforehand just to break it up thematically. And I don't think we would have said anything differently. We were largely talking about Charlie's book which was obviously already written but maybe an example or two or little context might have been different because the culture has shifted So I apologize to Charlie for the delayed release I like Charlie a lot, and so when he has a book like this coming out...I want to help him get the word out. But I also don't want THC to sound like we're beating a dead horse and making the same points about the same issues. Issues that are pretty inescapable and crucial to the lives of many people So it's always a mental tug-of-war for me

1:08:14 But Charlie did write a good book. All the information and the lists of facts are just mind-blowing when they're stacked back to back like he does it In today's show I probably drifted into rant mode a bit too much, but i don't get it out as much as you guys might think I do so To have a sympathetic ear is a bit cathartic but we're all frustrated who isn't frustrated So I should just shut up and do my job like everyone else right ask the questions and get out of the way You don't need to tell me, I already know. And to some people across the country shows like this might sound a little dramatic because a lot of places are open! I realize California isn't the center of the world but man...I'm seeing a lot of great local spots go under and they made all the right adjustments this summer just to get shut down anyway The big thing i like about San Diego is we can dine outside through October November December January

1:09:15 When they let us, I went to Target the other day and just thought huh these big box corporate stores have done literally nothing. Shouldn't we have heard something from Target or Walmart about a new million dollar UV ventilation system being installed in all their stores? Or shouldn't the government of put some pressure on them to make some investment in air circulation casinos have Sure, Target sells groceries but they sell a lot of other stuff too that isn't essential. Why not clear out the sporting goods to make room for more food and more cleaning supplies or just things that people apparently want? And I'm not saying it's about how necessary those items are but just the fact that they haven't done anything when there's many adjustments they could have made

1:10:02 The fact that people are cheering on a targeted clampdown on specifically small business is insane. McDonald's drive-thru, still open! Yeah but they had to close the inside... Okay well who's eating inside of a McDonalds? It probably helped their business to close the inside I just said i wasn't gonna do this But I hope everyone is staying sane right now so much craziness out there So many people using their fake outrage and desire to be right, to go out and try to silence people. It's important to stay positive! Keep it light! Laughter really is good medicine!

1:10:46 If you've been listening for a long time, you probably have a good sense of my personality. But I wouldn't want to be interpreted as being cold or insensitive to people who have been hit harder by this tragedy than others either lost family or have suffered on the economic side My empathy for that is completely unrelated to my curiosity to talk about alternative takes on everything, including all of this. Maybe I'm just broken inside that I don't get offended by ideas that don't come from a place of hate."

1:11:25 We've explored some of the biggest taboos imaginable in the THC archive, but never from a place of hate. Never in any sort of violent rage-filled call to arms way and it sucks to see such nuance lost in this world gone mad. Threading that needle is really important I saw the Q movement absorb so much of conspiracy culture, but i didn't expect the clapback that we're seeing now. 70 000 twitter accounts suspended in a day! You think those were all carefully combed over? I doubt it... In the past few days i've had people say to me, ''I bet you're really sorry now that you got in bed with The Q Crowd!'' ''i used to love your show but that was too much.'' And i think did i get into The Q Crowd?! I didn't think i did

1:12:17 I honestly struggle to understand how a person could equate what i've been doing for the past few years with that. I've honored my personal commitment to at least explore every alternative perspective with guests who are advocates for it, otherwise its not really a fair exploration but its pretty obvious that sort of stuff has been few and far between If anything, I've been thinking about how happy i am to have stayed on the right side of this stuff. Right as in correct side not right politically but people are just out for blood right now because they can but they should really think about how their outrage is being used although a lot of Charlie and I's colleagues were too quick to make that a part of their identity

1:13:09 And anything that drenched in politics is always best to be kept at arm's length. Obviously, in this time a lot of our colleagues are talking about finding alternative platforms and it is crazy to see any social media alternative being labeled as far-right When you go to these pages, all the marketing talks about is free speech. But we're hearing the early whispers of this guilty by association social crediting agenda! If you even have a Parler account... You must be a bad person. Boy doesn't that work out great for Twitter and Facebook? And I do scratch my head over the theatrics there too What? Parler can't keep itself online? Really?!

1:13:58 I heard some shit talking from the owner of the Pirate Bay saying, look we've been up for 20 years and all countries hate us. And we were kids for the first half of this ride! ...and he's making good points But i consider the higher side chats brand to be about a community of people who are mostly just dedicated to thriving in a world where so many organizations and politicians and corporations are only pretending, do support your ability to thrive when they're really undermining it that's what these conversations are about if you come from a place that this predator class is trying its best to help you and keep you safe.

1:14:40 Well then, as we talked about today almost nothing makes sense. There are inconsistencies every place you look and we can point them out all day but those are just branches on the tree The root is that a lot of people we love our thinking that the philanthropic predator class and political puppets that work for them are coming from a good place And that's a tough spell to break But let's just stay strong-willed and be patient. Have some grace for the ones who aren't there yet, and heed the line that Gordon brought up a few shows ago... Never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake." And much like Q and Trumpmania infecting the microcosm of conspiracy culture to a degree that I was feeling pretty lonely

1:15:27 I tried to have the grace and patience to let it pass, and take comfort in feeling like eventually I'd be on the correct side of history. I have to feel that way about this coronavirus situation too. I think people are seeing these protocols get further and further away from this thing that supposedly caused them, and folks are realizing that the logic doesn't follow Since charlie's book is about the nine eleven analogy let's use that as the reference terrorists kamikaze themselves into a couple of buildings okay, add we go to war with iraq wait what how hard you have to twist that story. For it to make any sort of sense even people who think nine eleven was advertised they still see that the wars in the middle east didn't really compute

1:16:22 And I think this situation will be the same, eventually. But it's getting hard out here for a pimp! You know, I brought up the Capitol thing and now the aftermath of all that is on my mind... But it's funny that I've lost a lot of paid members for walking the line on cue. For a lot of people, just the occasional guest who adopted that perspective was too much. Why do we have to be so rigid? We all have friends and family that we like, that have different political opinions from our own and we just kind of roll our eyes at it right? Guests on this show are sometimes going to be a little similar. We're all just people

1:17:04 I like to focus on what our guests are good at but i can't control what they say and just because i don't resonate with something doesn't mean guests aren't allowed to express themselves. And just because a guest says something doesn't mean i even endorse it, but then for the group that did get obsessed with Q, i wasn't being fair enough to their perspective and if I'm going to be criticizing President Trump, well then there are plenty of other podcasts for them to support," they would tell me. And that's great! These really are comments about just what has gone on in the last four years. They don't really have anything to do with my good pal Charlie here but i do think COVID is similar. I've had cancellations all year that would on one hand say since you won't commit to this being a hoax, I'm out

1:17:53 And other people would say, since you want to talk about terrain theory and promote dangerous ideas in a pandemic I'm out. Dangerous ideas like eating right and shoring up your immune system but regardless eventually it's not gonna be about the virus itself It will be about how the things we're doing The protocols, the policies have gotten so far away from the initial thing that is was supposed to be about And then we'll just be able to focus our common criticisms on that stuff. I think we're getting there now actually, so we're just gonna keep doing what we do and not be extreme even when we have a lot of conversations about the extremes and i just hope the majority of listeners acknowledge that difference

1:18:44 The show really isn't even about my thoughts anyway, as I constantly am saying. It's about hearing a range of alternative perspectives and having the sense to see where they make good points and discerning which perspectives might be a bit weak And that's going to be different for everybody, but my man here Charlie he definitely gets it. If you only heard the first hour you are missing out! The Plus Show is great we talked about the Club of Rome, The Eight Tentacles Of Control, the importance of spiritual and scientific control structures, consciousness attention and how much to give to the big plan, symbolism in our age, and several other things

1:19:29 You know you find value in the show or you wouldn't be here right now if u get the balance i'm trying to strike and my explanations here in this wrap up join plus get the extended episodes throw me a bone for my trouble and let's all enjoy the ride, i'd love to replace those who've lost their minds with the ones who still have them. Big thanks again for sticking with me through all this, even when I step in it sometimes. Even when I have a guess that you really don't agree with! And thanks to those who just have the same overall curiosity that I do because the arena for that does seem to be getting smaller than it was when I started but much love to you and yours keep your head up your mind open and your body strong because this too shall pass

1:20:23 Charlie Robinson, he is the man. I've done my part Your move explosive engineers promoters of fears and curators of the controlled demolition of the American Empire You're fucking through The truth has been hidden from me Didn't believe it myself Got lizard people on top of the world And i wish it was somebody else Believe it or not, the truth is out there for people who have the eyes to see. My favorite show makes me more oh- Who could it be? The High Side Chats THC! Just watch the TV and obey Take some more pills when you're blue

1:21:37 Or we'll break you out of the spell that you're in Together, we will make it through Believe it or not The truth is out there for people who have the eyes to see Favorite show makes me Who could it be? The higher side chats THS Sings that are true THC Is here for you Believe it or no-

1:22:26 Believe it or not. Believe it or not. Believe it or not, the truth is out there for people who have the eyes to see. Favorite show makes me more aware of who could it be? The Higher Side Chats Believe it or not, the truth is out there for people who have the eyes to see My favorite show makes me more a- Who could it be? The Higher Side Chats THC!