Andy Hunt of Control Alt History | The Odyssey Nightclub, Dark Hollywood, & The First Erika Kirk

00:00 The highest side, Jack Shaw would company Well, wouldn't you know it? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot. From the Sunshine State I'm Greg Carlwood And every era has its scandals but when it comes to the depraved abusive and sometimes satanic behavior of the upper crust The things that went on before the internet age were a lot easier to hide from a massively naive citizenry And when things did slip out they were easier to contain in control with PR firms crisis fixers and news reporting that barely scratched the sanitized surface of what was really going on But in the wake of scandals like Jimmy Savile, Jeffrey Epstein, Diddy and even Bill Cosby we see how easy it is for the big machine to wash an image suppress unfavorable information and ignore or even reward predatory behavior. The deeper you dig the weirder it gets and holding the major pre-internet celebrities child actors and dynastic Hollywood families up to the light reveals that it's hard to find anyone in the world that doesn't know how dark it is firsthand

01:00 Well, today's guest Andy Hunt runs the popular YouTube channel Control Alt History and he joins us to talk about all the amazing work he has done looking at the behavior of privileged political and entertainment elite classes. The stories that should have gotten more attention And the various clues we had along the way that something was seriously wrong Before starting Control Alt History, Andy published three novels of his own The Final Day At Westfield Arcade One Final Mistake and Killer Choice Well, I'm very much looking forward to this one. The celebrity cycle of abuse revealer satanic scandal sleuth and Hollywood underbelly exposure Andy welcome to the higher side

01:39 Dude, thank you for having me. Awesome intro Thank you kind of be here to say so your channel is very awesome It is so rare to find someone who actually is digging up new scandals or things that we vaguely remember as opposed To going over the same ten things that's we've heard ad nauseum I guess for people who aren't super familiar with your channel how would you sum up the driving force or the curiosity? That drives the content What like reading so i mean a lot of the things i talk about her just come from books are things that have been talked about before but my channel mostly focuses on just. Stories from history that have been kind of forgotten about or overlooked we only heard a portion of the story and a lot more comes out if you like kinda research it do a little digging,

02:29 What is the stuff from not very long ago like ninety eighties seventies like you know not like hundreds of years ago or thousands of years ago anything like that so there's just so many stories like that. Political scandals in hollywood scandals and things that were really big story i got a lot of them work huge front page news story thirty forty years ago it always amazes me how many, people just have not heard of them. I did a video on Ross Perot running in the 1992 presidential election, and there were so many people in the comments who were like wow this is amazing! I never knew this! That wasn't that long ago that was a huge story when it happened. Depending on your age you probably are very familiar with it but it was amazing to me how many people commented in the comments they just weren't familiar with it

03:23 Yeah, the commonality to me and I try to do justice with the intro is these stories that are largely in the political sphere or The Hollywood celebrity sphere and we might remember them but as you say 40 years ago You only got this story as it was presented And oftentimes pieces were missing. The one that comes to mind is Eddie Murphy and the tranny prostitute I remember seeing him like go on the tonight show and tell some jokes and tried a work that scandal and, you know, dodge all the criticisms. And you just think I guess he has a weird fetish but now with hindsight and seeing how things work in Hollywood it's more likely that the dirt came out because he wasn't being a good little puppet in some regard He maybe was too outspoken about a military conflict or some political thing and he had to be slapped down So they... Maybe they entrap him

04:19 Who knows if there's even a real scandal i mean sometimes the PR people can just say you did a thing. And as so many of your videos get into it seems like blackmail makes the world go around it does yeah that is the common theme with basically every video idea doesn't matter if its hollywood video doesn't matter if it's a video about politics or anything like that blackmailers always, Another recurring theme that crosses boundaries and everything just can i have this undercurrent of blackmail yes it really starts to make you wonder.

04:58 If anyone rises to stardom based on talent i've started to think about it almost like stocks obviously the earlier you get in the better deal u get when a stock rises so, it's like you take people who are vulnerable and use say well give me fifteen percent gimme twenty percent and The better deal you get, the more you use all your resources to amplify this person put them on the national stage shove them in everybody's face and then of course they make a lot of money but it is really about how much your gonna make. So these are like human stocks or almost like betting on race horses

05:39 And none of it is really based on merit. This whole idea that you can just go out to Hollywood and your talent will be discovered, and you will rise the top... It's not that your talent will be discovered! It's your blackmail, your compromise might be discovered or developed Or you might be willing to be passed around enough to star in a new movie? I-It's crazy but You have to be in a dynastic family sometimes one that is quite weird and might involve some satanic ritual abuse. Or you have to give up so much of the money are gonna generate that it's worth it to these psychopaths but they are the gatekeepers too basically everything and maybe there is been broken down a little bit with the internet because we just have other people able to give new context to a situation back in that day it's like they not only control these people but they control all media where the story comes out so there was no risk really two

06:39 Kind of half exposing a thing absolutely yeah the internet really did just change everything i mean it's crazy how. Somebody stores in the past are just so like this so bizarre like you look at him now with the internet and kind of learning more knowing more, And it's just like wait a second there has to be way more of this story like there is no way that story that was presented in newspapers is the full store and go back to your point like hollywood is definitely that way with like the dynastic families. But also washington DC is really bad,

07:16 You know it seems like all those people are connected and in some way or connect the two one of the higher power families yeah just with eddie murphy i haven't really reconstructed his timeline with that scandal and looked at like is im db or anything but we have any murphy raw everybody who loves comedy knows that as a great special. And then just look at the trajectory of, his work and we get the clumps and Dr. Doolittle, and this trash it really does seem like If you take the eddie murphy who made raw you know he has a better eye for quality. So why did you do all this i mean people say oh they did it for the money or someone else made them do it for money that they never truly got, biggest piece of pie four share yet and murphy one you know the timing of it was right when he was reinventing himself so is right before the netty professor came out there like the hard core guy in the eighties you now dropping f bombs an everything

08:15 This career kinda fell off like into the eighties early nineties. Get back beverly hills cop three and just a couple movies that weren't nearly as successful as like, the first beverly hills cop in forty eight hours and couple those other movies you had. And then it was yeah it was right i think he already finished filming professor it is about to be released on my computer just a month or two And that was kinda like him being reinvented as this family friendly guy. Then this happens and you do kind of wonder, the timing is really curious that it just happens to... Because then the reason that story got so crazy is there were all these other

08:58 Transvestites that came out and we're like yeah i've been with eddie murray like. I know any more if you tell me he's not over all the time like, is there any before and they were just like no 510 15 of them who came out with that's why the tablets at such a field day with that scandal cuz always like gonna strange transvestite just kept coming out of the woodwork insane they knew eddie murphy in describing details and things about What went down and all that so yeah i'm not to king shame anybody do what you like no life is short as long as your not hurting anybody underage or whatever but. Yeah but it's the time you know cuz they've been going on for fifteen years and why now come out right as he reinventing himself right before this movie comes out thats gonna brand him a family guy,

09:51 I'm sure there's a lot of like rival agency stuff to like really right movie studios yeah who knows maybe he left an agency or pissed off the studio head so they said go get some dirt on them and we're gonna release it just at the right time to do damage to his new film i mean this is how. This is the mafia style inner workings of hollywood that just, People were ignorant of for a long time, but to get into another one of your things that I think is really interesting. Let's get into the Odyssey nightclub because this kind of insanity could not exist in the world of smartphones, but I mean, who knows? But it existed for a long time before that. A West Hollywood nightclub that was marked as a teen venue fun for kids as young as 14 and even that wasn't enforced very strongly from what i understand but one of their ads apparently describes the club as quote The best discotheque for gay 12 year olds and those who like gay twelve-year-olds

10:49 This wasn't really a secret place within hollywood was right out in the open there was a nearby high school you mentioned where it was just very known that kids after dark from this high school would go to this club but tell us about this club and stuff that was happening there. Yeah i was a nightclub in hollywood late seventies early eighties and is actually gay club initially, So it opened up and it was a gay club, they didn't serve alcohol. It was just a big dance club and you can find pictures of everything. It was really well done as one of the most popular dance clubs in LA so it was a gay club initially. And then since they didn't serve alcohol they didn't have any sort of age limit that they would enforce. There was a nearby high school I think it was West Hollywood High School or Beverly Hills High School Fairfax High School is what it's called

11:43 A lot of the kids who are just from these really rich families a lot of their families were involved in you know the entertainment industry, the kids you know the fourteen fifteen sixteen year old kids would start going to this nightclub and hanging out. The reason i learned about it never heard about it but there was this phone call from this guy's name is richie albertini and got leaked on the internet probably five years ago, he talks about how he was a kid in hollywood going to this nightclub one of his very best friends was alexis r katt. who the person who became alexis our cat he was robert are cat before that and then you transition to lexus arcade but i was one of his really good friends is this a brother or sister of patricia archette and david rk yeah that's your brother okay yes like alexis arcade kinda. Became somewhat of a star after here she whatever transitioned there was the show like this surreal life i think where they had about it was like one of the very first kinda,

12:45 Celebrity reality shows kinda became like a big deal and died mysteriously but what the odyssey nightclub so he would go this richie albertini would go to this odyssey nightclub with. Robert r katt and just talk about how you just like passed around there was a lot of really bad stuff going on at this night club, but the really crazy thing is that the nightclubs owned by this guy's name was eddie nash. And the other name yeah well from your work but he was a high profile gangster link to organize crime and drug running and the brutal wonderland murders. Yeah so i mean any national really fascinating guy like i would really like to learn more about me is one of those guys where you can not, find hardly anything there's no books written about him or anything like that is a bit of mystery person

13:38 But i mean the stories are that he was basically the drug lord of the west coast throughout the nineteen seventies and eighties like you was just massively. No powerful really ruthless even barely find pictures of my mom live but if you've ever seen the movie boogie nights there's a character who always sings, I think it's sister christian is the song like dancing around in his underwear. Remember will care to be with that suppose any supplies drugs everyone after the parties anyway supposedly he's based on eddie nash and eddie nash is known for the wonderland murders which happened in california and nineteen eighties as well,

14:23 When like five people were just beaten to death with metal pipes. It's one of the most notorious crimes in Los Angeles history and Eddie Nash was allegedly, he was never arrested for it but he was allegedly responsible for it because they had stolen up supposedly stolen some drugs from him and that was his revenge. And I mean there's just you know a lot of rumors and things like that about how just how brutal and how nasty this guy was Anyway he's the one who owned the odyssey nightclub world is teenage kids were out party in. I didn't actually own a number of nightclubs and hollywood at the time star dust which is like a pretty famous one,

15:06 Yeah it's just incredibly bizarre that you would own like a teenage nightclub this guy who is just as. Hardcore drug lord i mean one of the things richie albertini talks about on his call is, how drugs were absolutely everywhere at the odyssey yeah its nuts and it's like they didn't serve alcohol because people are bringing their own much stronger drugs and this Richie Albertini thing, I would say anyone who's interested in this should watch your two-parter on this because you play clips from the actual call. He made this call in 2021 to child protective services i don't know motivated by what i guess guilt and just wanting this. To be blown up but he was the previous manager of the viper room who owns a viper room johnny depp johnny that's right, and johnny depp i've always wondered like you got so close with hunter s thompson hunter s thompson abused his cat in the just like

16:02 He's accused of doing much worse stuff, but we kind of know from his secretary that he would frequently throw and abuse his cat So when Johnny gosh says this guy named hunter s thompson filmed the snuff film in the back room I'm inclined to be like well The people who would abuse a cat are already a small category of people and I think the Venn diagram of cat abusers overlaps with the snuff film. Yeah, people quite a bit but you know it's all speculation we don't know but so this other guy who is irregular there Dominic brassia

16:38 This is the guy that Corey Hames mom said she walked in on abusing her son. And then this other guy, Larry Benjamin who was 42 years old was pretty brazen too apparently he took a 14 year old boy home from that club who has found dead in his apartment the next day by wait for it Larry's 16 year-old roommate What is that so there's plenty of news coverage at that time but they basically wrote it off as normal which was so crazy you show the coverage at the time and they just gloss right over sixteen year old roommate for a forty two year old man i know yeah it's those larry benjamin who was found dead so larry benjamin was apparently this oh. Forty-two your guy who hung out the odyssey all the time,

17:28 He went back to his condo apartment or whatever with a fourteen year old kid that he met at the nightclub like three in the morning and then the kid killed him okay my mistake. Yeah the kid shot him and then larry benjamin forty two year old guy is sixteen year old roommate found the body the next day or that night. Media coverage of it they did big headline i have been in the video but the big headliners, please say that boy kills benefactor like a reference to your guide who's hanging out with fourteen year old kid at four in the morning

18:05 As the benefit yeah nuts it's like almost calling a child rapist a mentor or something what the hell. So another thing we gotta talk about is the star child form thread this is a big thing you've covered this guy star child, Popped up on a forum and was exposing all kinds of stuff saying that they were the son of a famous celebrity father who had a dungeon in the basement. He's seen his dad celebrity friends come over for orgies one of the fathers friends brought over is ten year old daughter made them do stuff together nobody knows who this anonymous person was exactly but you speculated that it might have been rob reiner sun nick because this person clearly hated his parents

18:49 for a lot of abuse, Chet Hanks was another candidate. Again no way to know but elaborate on some of this like when you look at Chet Hanks and you just look at the guy That's a damaged individual all the tattoos and i put. Tattoos in the category of self harm not always not always but when you have face tattoos, add your entire body is covered to me that's very adjacent to the cutting mentality of an email sixteen year old teenager girl so it just doesn't match the image of Tom Hanks son chat something happened there and then the Reiner's you know from your work I watched the Rob Reiner roast and man so you got Billy Crystal at the Rob Reiner roast making jokes about how suspicious it is that Rob Reiner has this charity for underprivileged children he says the phrase

19:52 Rob has a lot of passion for children almost as suspicious amount of interest and passion and it's like right there you're saying that. And then i'll franken comes up in tells this lengthy story that he makes up about how rob reiner used to climb into carl's bed, and caress him while asking them for casting advice and everybody just chuckles and laughs then not long after u have The son who's been through all kinds of drugs like that another red flag for trauma comes and kills his parents. Why would you do that is he just disturbed or was the so broken from some kind of activity them might have been mentioned in that roast, that he decided that life ain't worth living unless i kill these people did this to me again we only get to know so much but

20:39 Talk to us about the star child form thread some of the stuff that intrigue you and maybe some of the major candidates for who could have been. So is a message board thread from two thousand nine, so it started out as somebody posted to the threat and said i have this crazy ass story Really good buddy of mine works for MTV and his job with MTV was they had him install hidden cameras. In the house that nicolas jay and jessica simpson lived in the tv show newlyweds when you're filming the show,

21:16 These were hidden cameras these weren't like the cameras that people walking around with and filming the show these were hidden cameras had an all throughout the house. And the person posting to this message board said my buddy is the one who set these up in mic recorded this crazy ass for some really crazy footage, and now what this person was posting was saying my body feels guilty until he has taken the footage that was captured in that house he's on the run And apparently whatever this footage was that was captured in the house was so explosive that like he was saying like this is gonna burn hollywood to the ground like that's how explosive. Any was a like it wasn't even necessarily involved jessica simpson or nicolas because, MTV on the house and tv executives another celebrities were in and out all the time so there is a massive mansion so they're bunch of different rooms

22:10 And so apparently this friend of the guy posting this message add just video evidence or video of something number things that had gone down that he said we're just gonna rock hollywood and rock the internet. And so thats kinda how it started was he posted about that and then you start giving kind a running updates about his body who's on the road, then from there to scott of all i can send people were kinda disbelieving like way like me not 2009 is a long time ago And so some people were kind of disbelieving like wait what no i like stuff like this bad can't go on in hollywood and then other people started chiming in like. I'm involved in hollywood or i was involved in hollywood that post in like graphic not horribly graphic but like going into detail about the abuse they suffered and things like that, i mean what's crazy is there a number of things that were mentioned back in two thousand nine that ended up

23:06 Becoming true like P Diddy or Diddy or whatever he was, puff daddy. He was referenced all the time in this star child thread people talking about how did he is just absolutely sick and real life like a really sick guy? And at the time I mean it just sounded you know most people didn't believe that at all because did he was his reputation was The big hip hop star womanizer all that it took 1617 years Turned out all that was right all that stuff that would be in close to the was right. So basically the thread can evolve with all these and it's all anonymous people so you know you can't,

23:43 verify it one way or the other really but it's just kind of evolved from like people posting about how evil it was in Hollywood to really get into like Satanism and that was kind of, the thread kind of evolves. It started out as just Hollywood then it really gets into blackmail and how prevalent that is in Hollywood then it really gets into you know Satan and you know esoteric and how so many people In hollywood are involved in devil worshiping or you know things like that and then this person there is poster. Who referred to himself as star child started contributing to the threat was massive the thread was like hundreds of pages long so it was, hold on info in their that's why did the video which is the kind of condense down cuz there's a lot alike

24:30 You know where does your troll posts i just kinda video trying to pull out like the most interesting post so anyway after a while, this guy star child by the name start child because he said he was the child of famous movie star star child. And he just went into a lot of detail about the horrible abuse that he suffered and how his father was just really well known name in Hollywood. That's how we could get away with it, and how so many of his dad's friends were also involved in this stuff. It's really hard to read him. I mean, it's really sad that he had to go through all this

25:11 And then he just kind of disappearing posted a number of like really detailed posts and talking about everything that you went through. And then it just kinda disappeared and the first can i guess that people had about will end in people you know, kinda started trying to figure out who is this guy if he is. The second dimension how we done some acting himself before too it was fairly well known And then right around the time that star child stop posting there was this actor. His name is andrew conig and he played boner on growing pains can i find him, write around this time this andrew coni who's like forty years older so he was found dead in a park in vancouver canada and you hung himself from a tree

26:05 So he'd quote unquote committed suicide at least. So people really started speculating that well maybe it was his father because his father was a pretty well known actor, he was on the original Star Trek TV show and he's been in a number of other movies as well but he was really well known for being one of the main characters on the original Star Trek back into 60s and so people kind of speculated that you know that could be star child identity Him killing himself quote unquote kinda lined up with when star child stop posting there also number of like really other weird thing it was two thousand and nine hundred the red happen. Like well the threat app near people who posted like my friend is involved in hollywood she's gonna come forward about this and you can't verify don't drop names or anything but like britney murphy died right as the thread got big,

27:02 There was another girl mackenzie phillips came forward about all this abuse that she suffered her father was a pretty well known singer back in like the seventies john phillip's. And so i got whole bunch of stuff and then the tiger woods thing happened which is another thing that was really strange tiger wood was mentioned in the thread about, Tiger Woods is someone who people think is like this wholesome, you know buttoned up guy. Nothing could be further from the truth he's just real party animal like really into some pretty bad stuff in his spare time real life and you know at the time Tiger Woods' reputation was totally pristine you know people were like no there's no way and then in November of 2009 so right as

27:53 The whole crash happened when tiger woods crashed his SUV and his wife attacked him with the golf club. No all these details started coming out about you know just, all these affairs that i got what's had and all this partying did he get in all these women to be been where that whole thing came out well they start child thread was going on and being posted about entire which was mentioned before All the stuff happened with him so is like it was just all these weird kinda things that ended up becoming true even with daddy like it took a while but a lot of what does talked about him in the thread was true. Yeah the sad reality is that there's a lot of potential candidates even though this stuff is really dark and depraved and detailed,

28:41 You can't really coordinate around anyone person because there's so many dark individuals and dark families in hollywood so i have this quote from first off i wanted to add to the billy crystal quotes i couldn't find it when i was talking about a bit, billy crystal said quote what i love about rob reiner is his deep almost suspicious love of children he freely gives them his time has money whatever it takes to get them in the van. Yeah. Now look, I'm not prude. I love comedy and roasts are great but a lot of times roasts specifically that type of humor is used to dance around a deeper truth and that's the thing that is so crazy as like that's not necessarily an accusation but it's an odd thing to say

29:28 There's a lot of people that you couldn't make that joke because the audience wouldn't understand the context of like well how does that connect but it connects to him because of this weird charity there is also. A lot of super strange, photos of him and his dad kissing on the lips with like the hand behind the head holding, like you hold your wife's head. And also doing this to the son Nick so you got three generations of father and son well you know grandfather father and son kissing on the lips in public in a strange way strangest objective but I look at it and I don't kiss my kids that way and especially when

30:12 When like the grandfather is 80 and the father is 60, and they're kissing on the lips like you kiss your wife? And then you know this is a total speculation does look what the sun ended up doing something rotten in denmark you know and. So rob reiner bought the house of henry fonda you mentioned this in the video we don't know if there's a dungeon in their but it done would not be shocking to hear about when you know that things going on around, henry fonda right yeah Yeah the whole fond of family is gonna have to defend a little bit there but it will weird family another thing that's really strange that i find strange about the rob reiner one is that.

30:54 You know, basically it sounds like he Nick Reiner chopped his dad's head off. Like it was a vicious, vicious attack. Like it was really wasn't just like a key to the moment thing where you'd stabbed him once and then that was it? Like it was really I don't remember the exact details but I thought I mentioned in the video It was described as he almost chopped his head off Right, and it's hard to chop a head off. To saw a head off I don't know what he had exactly A butcher knife or butter knife would function a lot differently in this scenario but It seems like there is a lot of pent up

31:30 Frustration let's say that comes out in this brutal situation is very intimate to saw a person's head off. With henry fonda for people who don't know he's the father of jane and bridget fonda and peter fonda, this is before my time before lot of people's time but as you send the video his wife francis was committed to an asylum and ended up slitting her own throat and then his first wife margaret sullivan also was committed and found dead at fifty in a hotel room so what is going on that this guy has two wives committed. Who knows when someone gets committed maybe it's justified, maybe they were driven to insanity or maybe it's just a little tricky pull when you want your wife gone so. It's just something the note specially when we know how crazy things are and the nicolas jessica simpson thing

32:28 Taylor's oldest time i'd never heard this but you got mtv owning the house hiding extra cameras and extra places they don't know about. And this guy said that there are a lot of people going in and out of the house constantly and maybe it's the executives that are like hey jessica simpson is fair game because she wants to be a celebrity so who knows who knows what they caught at this is where my mind goes as you probably have I'm teen executives having sex with jessica simpson which would be really shocking to fans in the nineties but now it's not so shocking cuz you pay to play. Yeah i think that was probably some way more than that you know i think it was like some sort of ritual like car or yeah i think it was something way more than just because they even describe and uh, the message board thread like this is way more than just some sex scandal

33:22 So it kind of reminds me of the Dave Chappelle story. Of course, he's always been vague about what happened but in one of his specials where he had just come back He's like if you want to know what happened to me let me tell you about this story and he tells the story of a pimp And the concept of mileage on a hoe they assess these girls like oh this is good for fifty bucks and then she's gonna go crazy so she got a little bit more. Fortitude chicken probably do eighty or hundred and then you gotta discard her because she's gonna be used up in she's gonna go crazy, traumatizing but this is the cold reality of how they treat people think about people so dave chapelle told the story saying like

34:04 This is basically my story so it seems like he didn't want to continue show but they already invested so much in as you know human stocks and i said no you know your gonna yield and your gunner. Create another season he didn't want to they probably showed him either blackmail that he was shocked today had or some kind of threatening stuff regarding his family again like. Scaring them long enough to leave for africa and come back jacked or a clone some people say i don't know the cloned then holds up but there seems to be some reality two clones in, how do you put it is something to some degree oh yeah

34:44 We have done videos on human cloning i know we're getting there that's my second way does my second topic speaking of clothes natural transition. Erica kirk she not only is behaved super strange in the wake of her husband public assassination i'm so sick of people saying, Who are you to judge how people grieve shut the fuck up this is weird this is bizarre so she was a previous trump pageant girl mom made some sort of intelligence. job she said this in an interview that are mom had some intelligence job she works for the weird romanian orphanage accused of abuse but, this is where it gets weird there's another erica kirk from the sixties who married the florida governor at the time and they look very very much like i'll have to have a picture thrown up on screen but tell us about this older erica kirk and the governor of florida claude kirk that you was married to cuz again its weird

35:40 Neither of these girls their maiden name is not kirk they were handed off to someone named kirk. Yeah that's worth noting yeah it's a weird story it was a big you know the whole, story around this was a big story back in the day and like it just kinda got forgotten about but claude kirk was the governor of florida he was elected in late 1968 And he was just kind of described as almost like a Trump-like character, like he's really brash outspoken always doing crazy publicity stunts and things like that. Real character and then he was elected governor of Florida you didn't have any political experience or anything like that. He was single so he was kinda regarded as the most eligible bachelor in Florida. Then when he had his inauguration ball right after getting elected he shows up with this girl

36:36 Who he was like in his early forties and she was probably in her mid twenties very good looking girl blonde girl you know very very good looking. And he just refers to hers madam x everyone that's how you introduce is her everyone who asked about a reason go this is madame max, So it actually comes out that the girls name is erica matfeld she was born in germany and then immigrated to south america. Things like fourteen or sixteen and then met claude kirk in south america because claude kirk had some business interest in south america,

37:15 So the whole thing, I mean right that that whole portion there has to be more of a story there because a lot of germ a lot of nazis. Immigrated from Germany to South America after the war right around the time this erica matt fell dead and then like clark just randomly having a business in south america that you would go down your big drug route from south america florida probably the biggest drug route So that it seems like there's way more to the story there but anyway cloud kirk shows up to this inauguration ball with erica kirk or eric matt felt at the time. And she is real mysterious nobody really knows anything about her the announces that he's marrying her so she becomes a rick of kirk and, she really looks so similar to the modern air kicker like you mentioned by similarities are pretty striking yeah

38:06 A lot like the zeni love a thing where people looking at zenia love a daughter of anton lovey looking exactly like taylor swift yeah it's not again you know cuz critics would say. Well, some people just look alike. But we're not talking about any two people We're talking about the literal biggest star on the planet knowing how dark Hollywood is It seems like this would be a person who is crafted in some way maybe literally crafted and we're talking about the daughter of Anton LaVey The patriarch of Satanism In his day And this is a person who probably would engage with some weird ritualistic behavior regarding

38:47 his own daughter or the birth of some clone of his daughter in a ritual moon child sense and i looked into is then zena level little bit she became a mother as a teenager and rejected the church the church of saint you know and then left but. Yeah a lot of people don't know they say these two look alike but they don't also know that she was the teenage mother and i'm sure she was kind of course into that it seemed okay within the context of the church of saint but bizarre stuff happen so. You were not talking about just to ladies at look like we're talking about,

39:26 Two erica's that seem to be constructs that emerge out of nowhere and are handed two men playing roles. Within the control apparatus so, There's another one that interests me. So everybody talks about the Kardashians as witchcraft sorceresses and you know, it's not just a claim because they'll go deeper and say look what the Kardashians do to strong men You know they really just run some pretty strong man through the ringer The initial guy who is in the sex tape with Kim, he has said that her mom has tried to destroy his life and like completely bankrupt him at every turn. And then Kanye obviously has been through the ringer I don't know enough about them to really list more than those two but this thing came up recently in a time that we decided to book this. I imagine you might end up making a video about it but F1 is another thing outside of my realm of knowledge

40:29 Kim Kardashian is dating this famous racer Lewis Hamilton and at the big race in Monaco, the Grand Prix or whatever. Kim Kardashian used this towel that was meant for the winner of the race, which was Kimi Antonelli. So Kim Kardashian takes this towel and wipes her own face with it and this was kind of considered a taboo amongst the racing community That's not for you It's like taking a boxer's towel and using it for yourself when it's like that's for the boxers sweating his ass off doing his job Well later that day there the next race

41:07 her the guy that she's dating lewis hamilton he wins the race and the woman whose towel she use kim antonelli did not finish. Didn't even get a bad position didn't even rank in the race so this is considered like exhibit a that there some magic going on this wasn't a taboo accident she intentionally Took her energy and cursed this towel in some way i don't know the exact mechanisms of magic and all cases. But you can almost put a story together there that's like that just bizarre, this woman won the race in one instance the next time she couldn't even finish the race yeah you always hear stories about like

41:50 objects being cursed, but kind of going back to the Erica Kirk thing. One of the things that really one of the reasons why I decided to do the video and it was kinda like fortuitous timing because really right before I learned about that, I did a pretty long video on human cloning and you know human cloning is kinda topic that people think is just really far out there or like you know really futuristic It's really not at all. And the reason I wanted to do the human cloning video is because like back in the 70s, you know 50 years ago human cloning was talked about all the time there are so many old books and so many old newspaper articles that talk about how human cloning is just right around the corner like it's not

42:38 that complicated of a process to clone someone when they were talking about human cloning back then, it's always just creating like an embryo clone of someone. So it's not creating like taking a 40 year old person and creating a 40 year old clone that looks exactly like they do at that exact moment What they're talking about with human cloning and all these older articles is just taking a cell from that person in creating a clone of that person. That's an embryo that will grow up, you know 40 years down the road to look like that person And it's just really interesting because there are so many old articles, I talk about a lot of them in the video. But so many of them talk about like the moral implication of human cloning and whether it should be just completely banned or whether it should be allowed. Like you know some of the articles in books just talk about how its total inevitability and this is 50 plus years ago talking about how human cloning is right around the corner if it hasn't happened already

43:37 One of the things that's always talked about in the older articles and a lot of the books is how neat it would be to be able to clone people like famous people from history. So you could clone, Einstein or you could clone take your pick Thomas Jefferson George Washington whoever famous singer and how cool would it be to like be able to clone that person? And then have a clone of that person grow up in our modern day And that's what i think is kinda could be whats going on with like the whole. Erica kirk dang or the whole thing where like these orders in a love and taylor swift, is that people understand how this human cloning works you know they can just basically clone people from the past it's basically attached to baby like its really not like this

44:29 hugely elaborate thing you just there's a movie called the boys from brazil from the nineteen seventies which is about human cloning their number of movies about human climbing in the seventies. What the boys from brazil is a pretty well known one and they show in the movie the exact process that they used to clone animals news in the exact same process to call humans in the movie trying to create a bunch of hitler clones in the movie but, Yeah they show exactly how it works and even today I mean the cloning of animals is just totally commonplace. I talk about in video but there's all these stories about celebrities who clone their dogs, yeah there's pet calling websites that yeah i mean anybody can do it cost twenty thirty forty grand put anybody can call on their dog. I'm farming cloning has done all the time with livestock because if you have like a really good

45:24 cow or whatever, or a really good pig. It makes more sense to just clone that pig and create a bunch of those as opposed to leave it up for the reproductive process and not exactly know what you're going to get if that happens. So cows, pigs, livestock is cloned all the time. Horse racing is horses are cloned all the time. It's very commonplace in the horse racing world and the polo sport There's even like talk of how the horse racing industry might ban horse cloning because there, there's a fear that it might just ruin the sport. It's a really common thing in everything but human and if you mention it with humans what people just tune out and think is this totally crazy thing? But again you're not talking about creating an exact replica of a person as they are today. You're talking about creating an embryo that only has

46:22 the characteristics of that one person as opposed to the characteristics of both the woman and man who had sex to have the kid. Yes, that is a bizarre thing for me like you can clone sheep or pet and thats interesting but when you clone a person I'm so curious about that consciousness that emerges in the vessel it's like i would wanna interview them be like do you feel like you've lived another life to get parts of this person bleeding over into your personality are you just completely a fractured individual because they say that even if you just take a heart transplant or something you start to get weird thoughts and feelings that match the person who's organ it is

47:10 So this is gonna blow people away get ready pull over if you're driving so it is hard to really get me these days but you got me with this thing i couldn't believe that the three generations of the cozac family. So, When charlie kirk was killed hunter kozak was the individual who is asking him a question regarding mass shooting in america just before he was actually killed and this guy was caught on camera practicing his reaction beforehand. Yeah. But this guy's father is Steve Kozak, a director for the Jimmy Kimmel Show and a longtime Hollywood veteran. And of course Jimmy Kimmel gets looped in here because he got in trouble for his Charlie Kirk joke. And then this guy's father is Elliott Kozak another significant figure in Hollywood who was a producer and agent for Bob Hope and Bob Hope is said to have lots of skeletons in his closet but how weird is that?

48:23 I just can't get over this. The kid, it all seems staged! It just makes me think the whole Charlie Kirk thing was staged because the fucking guy who is asking him the question which is kind of like You know if this was a simulation that would be the sign. The go sign yeah i like to do the umbrella man in the jfk you know people, yeah that's the ghost sign and then this guy would've been placed there at the microphone and the question was about mass shootings too exactly it's another layer and then his father works in hollywood director of the jimmy kimmel show and then his father is a producer agent for bob hope its like

49:03 Is anything real? How much of all of this is theater and stage craft. It starts to just blow me away wondering what is real when it comes to any of these people, I hear you man. Yeah the Charlie Kirk thing my theory kind of with the Charlie Kirk is like they purposely made it so there's a lot of loose ends and a lot of weird things going on because they want people Like basically in the past when it came to like conspiracy theories are alternate explanations for things it was always just denied denied deny you know by somebody brings up the neck alone. And mainstream media whatever just denies that now you're crazy like there's not that doesn't really work anymore with the internet because there so much information out there and there's some people like,

49:57 Who have twitter accounts that just kinda analyze this stuff and there's a lot of creators who. Make videos or podcast your perfect example to talk about this stuff and so there is just so much information out there where, that dislike denying denying denying these things tonight if theres like conspiracies behind some of these things that doesn't work anymore so seems like now they just try too Flood people with so much information and so much conflicting things that is just overwhelming that. You just can't end up spending your wheels to what it seemed like with the charlie kirk thing is there was something weird things, would dad and somebody just random like videos of the person running away or the person i mean nothing difficult stories at the guy

50:46 Changed his clothes on the roof and then there's like video of him running off The roof and then there's other video. There's all these videos, and you just don't know what to believe And like I said, you just kind of end up spinning your wheels if you try to make sense. Yes it's very bizarre and we know that 33 is code for something in so many of these events they will specifically layer in 33 and when Charlie Kirk was killed he had three rows of hats on the table that were 47 is all it said on at 47 seven plus three is 1111111 that's 33 and then when Kash Patel gave his weird

51:26 speech afterwards like his announcement of what had happened they found him after thirty three minutes of searching there i mean that was just so strange i'll see you at the hall and then the guy has the screen saver the patsy guy has the screensaver of an island where their is a ball on that island, that's very bizarre. So really the thing is what is that thirty three code mean is that telling other people in the club hey we simulated this event or is it telling them. This is one of our hits you know could be one of the other i think its pretty clear that if

52:02 The thing is real it was probably the microphone that blew up and killed a much like the pagers but i'm kind of above the opinion that it was a because ai is gonna be one of these things thats completely made up. Entirely so you'll never figure out how you can analyze all the angles and do all the things in trying to figure out where the shot there wasn't a shot, no i don't know another thing that makes me think it was AI was there is a sweeping shot of the crowd and there's one guy looking back at the camera raising his fists like it's a wwe wrestling match. And that's one of those bizarre ai artifacts for you tell me i hate make the crowd look at charlie but there's one guy not doing anything else that doesn't make any sense so it but its like,

52:51 Where's all the cell phone footage? I've only seen two angles. Why haven't i seen 20 why does his security team immediately start touching things and taking down cameras in the next day they like paved over the spot It's like there so many weird questions i don't think they have a problem killing people but there might be this like mafia thing where, if you're in the club your untouchable so if they need to move you off the stage they do it like this. Yeah i do wonder of the thirty three is some sort of like calling card. Like a code like letting people on the no no kind what faction or what people were behind certain events

53:31 Because even like in a lot of my videos, 33 always comes up. I mean and you're talking like things from 40-50 years ago and beyond just the age beyond someone was 33 years old although there's a lot of that but like i did a video on Freddie Prince who is the father of Freddie Prinze Jr. Freddie Prinze was like a huge star for just for a really hot minute about a year he totally blew And then he committed suicide at, I think it was 21. He was really young at 21 or 22 and then the big headline a couple of days later was Prince dies 33 hours after he shot himself so they had it marked down to the exact you know exactly 33 after he shot himself So You know when I just say a day and a half or when I'd say two days after After shooting himself, you know hmm

54:26 Man, well I could do this all day because it's so rare after 15 years to really be shocked by new stories and information which is the absolute value of your channel. It is so good there are a lot of things we didn't talk about but I tried to pick out some of the most obscure or mind-blowing things but... A lot of things that people should go check out remind them where they can find you Yeah, just Ctrl-Alt History on YouTube. So Ctrl Alt A L T. Ctrl history like Ctrl Delete then I'm also on Twitter and Instagram and social media

55:05 I love it and i do appreciate a good pond and good branding in the conspiracy space i thought of my when i was like twenty seven years old so now its kinda cringe but control history is really great you're talking about all history, and a lot of these people were control deleted it works on many levels i think this is really great stuff. Read everything you know that's why did it cuz i am no control delete reboot your computer And that's kinda why i try to do because you know a lot of times if your familiar with some of these stories you might be kind of familiar with only one side of the story, or might not be familiar with a lot of the other details.

55:46 And so hopefully with some of the videos on my channel it will kind of reboot what you know about these topics. Hell yeah great pitch always be closing and yeah people reboot your mental computer control history, and here the man it was a pleasure keep doing the great work thanks dude is awesome really appreciate yes take care Oh, oh it's magic people. Yes I really loved this one and i'm sure I don't have to tell you that Andy has an awesome channel! I think we did cover most of the major hits if you ask me but he puts a lot of work into the presentations that he does so if you want to get a little more into any of these topics with better visual references definitely check out his channel

56:37 And this was the episode that I had just recorded before going on the Danny Jones podcast. So some of this stuff did come to mind pretty naturally, like the second Erica Kirk thing and the Reiner family stuff. It was a big fail on my part really too not shout him out his channel wasn't the only place I saw coverage of these things but still so let them know if you appreciate the work that he's doing to make up for my egregious error Kind of crazy that i think every single person i did mention in the danny jones interview has contacted me to say thanks and that they heard it very unexpected makes me think i could have done more but maybe there will be a next time.

57:21 And the other thing i've seen about the danny jones podcast is some people worried that i sold out or how can i fall for the danny jones show look it's just an interview on a platform that is a little bigger than mine, how could i say no i'm allowed to say whatever i want cover whatever i want. It was fun he's a nice guy he's local there's really no problem I don't have agents i don't have sponsors id my show completely independently but if im also expected to never go on other shows or only go on smaller shows are selection is too promote what we do around here it just doesn't make any sense i'm already hurting myself. Why sticking to certain principles and hurting myself economically and,

58:12 Just the attention that THC gets if I signed with a particular talent agency, if they would even have me. It would light a fire on everything money would pour in. I would be thrust onto all the other shows and their network That's how these things operate so I don't get that because I've chosen to stay independent it's fine I'm insanely lucky and fortunate that I'm in the position I am I think if you cut it down to people who have no sponsors, had no prior celebrity status and have no talent agencies or managers involved. I don't know if anyone's more successful than me of course that's a lot of caveats It's like saying I'm the world's tallest midget or something but still I'm proud of it But the fact that like I'm gonna get shit for going on Danny Jones' podcast

59:04 that level of scrutiny, that level of What you expect out of me i don't know it's a little too much yeah. I'm gonna do the interviews when i'm asked especially if it helps promote what i do and bring more people into the thc ecosystem, and promote all the great guests we do that's all i've ever wanted to do is find unpopular counter culture figures that make great arguments for various curiosities and highlight them and bring them to a larger audience than they could reach otherwise Going on Danny Jones is really just part of doing that. But either way, this was good stuff to me it just adds a lot of context to what we already kind of know and suspect about how sick the Hollywood system is The more you know the better picture of it You can form Really one of my only big curiosities left Is how many people are compromised with blackmail and child abuse or being abused as children growing up in that system

1:00:05 or just exploitative contracts that they are forced to sign before they're popular? All that stuff versus how many are engineered to play characters from the very beginning, from the very start of their lives. That is not a zero answer you know there are definitely some that are but I wrestle with like to what degree is it this or that I've also seen enough to know that Hollywood is one of the main sectors of our culture where ritual and spellcraft are still heavily used. But how heavily? I still wonder, like is it even possible to navigate a career in Hollywood and not see it not know about it or not participate in it

1:00:52 Even the guys who seem cool, who kind of get in do their work and then try to just enjoy their private lives like Keanu Reeves or maybe even an Edward Norton. I think he has gotten roped into doing some of those really cringy promotions for like wearing masks during COVID stuff. I'm not sure i can't remember don't want to put that on him but It's the example that comes to mind. So is it possible that some of these people are not aware at this level? I think everyone's aware, the level of a Norton or Reeves and i'm inclined to think that they're pretty much required to participate but again it's just all about to what degree and with what intention

1:01:37 But surprise surprise actors are really good at turning on the charm and i think we've all been burned a couple of times. Feeling like we might resonate with one of these people that we don't really know having a pair social relationship with them before that term was even popular, add then we find out they have more baggage or skeletons in their closet than we thought or maybe there are darker individual than we thought happens all the time. It's okay to get burned once or twice, but then you gotta just divest from that whole thing. Anyway fun unexpected stuff and the plus show is great too we talked about some of the weird stuff with the nine inch nails guys The Brooke Shields story The Phoenix family River Phoenix and Walking Phoenix And just how many Hollywood actors and figures come from cult backgrounds not a cult but like literal cults

1:02:33 There was a particular couple of cults that seemed to change their name but are under the same umbrella. I don't know, we got into it The other thing we talked about was the Gary Stolman incident If you don't know what that is just look it up! I never knew that a guy came to a live news broadcast with a gun A BB gun But a gun and held up the anchor and made them read a prepared statement about the CIA And alien clones We also talked about another example of this para fiction ritual stage setting stuff where pieces of art let's say movies books actually mirror real events and this one was a book called the final jihad and it mirrors the events of the oklahoma city bombing i mean to an insane degree it probably is a candidate right up there on the s tier with snake eyes in terms of massive amount of sinks including the name

1:03:31 And what's weird about that one is the author was the governor of Oklahoma's brother. So sometimes I think the scripts get released a little too far out from the inner circle and that's how these things happen, but uh really liked this episode sign up for plus and stop missing half the show all right now i don't know if i'm going to be able to get this episode up before the world cup finale But I promise you, I am recording this right now a few hours before it even happens on the 19th. I can even show you my phone let me make sure don't have any notifications going that you shouldn't see but yes it is uh the morning of the 19th so the world cup has not happened yet

1:04:15 And this is what I gotta say about it. So there's this thing with Lionel Messi, it's very bizarre. I'm sure a lot of you have probably seen this but if you don't know just let me read this post from Jordan Crowder We actually just set up a time in a couple weeks for him to come on THC Very excited about that interview as well and its gonna probably mirror a lot of these Kind of content we talked about today, but as a preview he writes what is going to happen on July 19th? This is far too strange to ignore in 2007 a 20 year old Lionel Messi held a baby during a UNICEF charity photo shoot that baby Islamian Yamal 19 years later

1:04:56 Today, July 19th 2026. They meet as superstar opponents in the FIFA World Cup in New York So yeah 19 years ago Lionel Messi holds a baby at a UNICEF thing and that baby grows up to be The star player on the opposing team in the World Cup I mean Chances of that are insane astronomically low so he goes on to say The veteran's son is facing the emergent son. The numbers don't lie, 19-year arc Yamal turns 19 this week showdown on the 19th

1:05:37 Taro's 19th major arcana is the Radiant Sun. 1 plus 9 equals 10, equals one, completion collapsing into new beginning, karmic cycle resolved. Messi carries Argentina's radiant sun on his back. Yamal, the innocent son from the 2007 photo now rides the white horse of destiny New York, the crossroads of the new world hosts the solar ritual as the planet watches a a neutral arena where old light confronts the next dawn. These stacked 19's, sun-sun mirrors and full circle LaMacia threads are code markers signaling a reset point whether Messi defends the light or Yamal claims the new day reality feels malleable that Sunday. Mmm I love it!

1:06:27 Finally, he says, Well it's exactly the kind of ritual setup we see running reality so often. And then I also shared a post from a woman who found a children's book that predicts the two teams in the World Cup finale would be Spain and Argentina. That's already a hit, and then the book says the final score will be Spain to Argentina won so the book would predict that the torch is passed to this 19 year old kid

1:07:05 Now, look at this. Remember how predictive the Economist cover can be? Well in the corner is a soccer player and he's in a red jersey. Well what team's jersey is red? Spain! Huh... So that's the setup three different vectors of prediction saying Spain will win and according to the book by a score of 2-1 Brian Toohey really was so right. The fix is in, and everything is rigged If he only added to his analysis that it's done ritualistically which he might have done by now He would be pretty unstoppable So I'm not really vested in this but It's way more fun To put these things out In advance rather than reverse engineering them after the fact And saying see? I knew! I saw it

1:07:52 i also think it's possible that they change things if awareness grows to a certain level which of course is skeptic and just lean on the say well wrong again but there are so many examples that you just can't know until, the real world event happens like examples where the fictional account. Then get sussed out in retrospect because amir is a real even no one's picking up snake eyes and saying watch for this but when it happens and you look at your life what the hell remember that super bowl thing to they had this promo image of all the quarterbacks looking up at the heisman. And is it the heisman i think i already got blasted for this its not the heisman that is a college football thing they tell me

1:08:38 I don't know what the Super Bowl trophy is called. And i'm gonna get blasted for that let me know in the comments if you Know the very obscure information of what they call The super bowl trophy maybe that's what it's called This is how out of that world? I am but regardless They had this picture where all the quarterbacks are looking up at the trophy and the two that were closest to the Trophy in the image that was released in the pre-season Were the two who went to the superbowl i should just re cut that because people are just gonna blast me but it's alright, i can take it and this kind of synchronicity synchronistic stuff reality fiction overlapping is really my favorite stuff. It is where conspiracy and magic overlap an examples of it continue to stack up in blow me away more every time the only thing that blows me away these days but

1:09:32 So be it. In higher side news, we got to talk about that last episode man Dr Tom Cowan someone I respect a lot someone i was well aware of would be maybe a tough nut to crack he's just a particular kind of guy not good or bad I can adjust myself too certain difficult personalities and characters I got no problem with that but I did get a little spicy in the wrap up and I didn't think at least half of his analogies really held water and he didn't seem to care to make his case any further. That was the interesting thing like if i make a case and someone says well what about this? Then, I would come back and be like well you know maybe I'd look at it this way instead but he was just like no Someone in the comments used the term indifference And yes! I think that is the best term to use Dr. Cowan was very indifferent too

1:10:26 bought what he was selling or not, or agreed. Or had anything further to elaborate on it He just was indifferent to it Again I find his work really worth exploring but I guess I just wanted a little more engagement in that interview and wanted to get past some of the same arguments I've heard him make in previous interviews But It is What It Is I also love the food offerings in his store, probably the best anywhere. No one is making these kitchen staples with structured water that's super interesting and if you want to go break up his monopoly i think it's a really great thing to do we should have more structured water products available to us

1:11:11 Anyway, but let's just say he wasn't the best dance partner and it is what it is. I didn't think he would get as beat up in the ratings as he has but 4.2 is what we got and that is pretty low on our scale It's weird to have one of my personal top 10 guests end up coming on this show And then ending with such a low score One of the lowest of the year I guess there were not as many people wanting that as i would have thought or they were just disappointed with the end result. That happens too! I also have seen the plus comments that I'm too hard on myself with these ratings calling a 4.5 or a 4.6 mid-tier but hey, these are paid members They're already in and they should like the show

1:11:57 And I'm not looking at the numbers so much as I am the overall trend of the scores and what's common versus what's further away from the mean on both the high and low end. That is just what it comes down to Sure, a 4.2 is like saying 8.4 out of 10 8 out of 10? 8 1⁄2 out of 10 that's really good On a normal scale But we really usually only have one or two shows a quarter that score that low a 4.2 so it's just how i read it, i can take it its all good is just the fun thing we do to look back and talk about what the listeners thought okay that brings us to the meetup calendar let see what we got

1:12:40 All right, today is Sunday July 19th. I don't know if they're going to be talking World Cup or not. I'm sure it'll be on at Blackstack Brewing in St Paul Minnesota but THC fans are congregating there then tomorrow July 20th we have Oaks Pennsylvania at the Arnold Family Fun Center and then we have July 28 Elgin, Illinois at the Side Street Studios. They're doing a severely artistic event I like the play on words there August 8th we have Pullman Washington Rico's Public House A Higher Soup Meetup so it's gonna be a little more overlapped with the magical theme

1:13:21 And then August 9th, Los Angeles California at the Trails Cafe. This one's a recurring one and then we have Los Ranchos New Mexico Hops Brewery August 15th And that's it awesome alright higher side meetup stock on free and open anyone make an event at a popular brewery or casual public meeting place around you in just see what happens. Usually when i hear most often is if you give me enough time to call out on the show at least twice so like two week lead time don't put something on the calendar that is for tomorrow that's not gonna work

1:13:59 We need some time to get the announcements out there. And then if you live in a mid-sized city, at least you should probably expect 5 to 15 or 20 people to show up it won't be anything crazy don't overthink it What I hear most often is the trepidation comes from people thinking that they're going to put something on a calendar. They have to tell the brewery that this is happening and then like 100 people are gonna come in overwhelm, the space like some kind of what do they call those things? Flash mobs! That's it. It's not gonna be like that

1:14:34 So just have some fun with it. You're going to meet a couple of local people and it's great knowing local people who are at least somewhat on the same page as you is only going to get more valuable with time, so start now Alright, that's it. Good times! Big thanks to Andy Control Alt History for more Take care of you and yours I've done my part Your move Hollywood handlers Ritualized reality engineers And Kirk family cloners Your fucking moves See you sitting in traffic You look so stuck No sense of adventure Just a routine fuck They can diagnose depression But don't know why your bored

1:15:21 Mystery comes knocking but you don't answer the door No, there are lights in the sky not found on any map Creatures deep in the forest that no ranger has tagged There are things in the ocean You won't see from the land Life's under no obligation to make sure you understand I'm told the truth is out there When you get past the lies It comes when you least expect it And it wears a disguise It'll tell you everything just for goof Can't take any pictures, won't have any proof So I watch ya live like he never wanted it

1:16:25 A lost soul that's forgotten what really haunted his ass But just let me say, this is a horrible approach to seizing the day There are things you can know that you can't even think No doctor has medicine like the shaman's next drink Sleep is never better than inside of the dream Who promised you anything would be as it seems I'm told the truth is out there when you get past the lies It comes when you least expect and it wears a disguise

1:17:23 It'll tell you everything, everything Just for... Can't take any pictures Won't have