Topic: Nature Bats Last

Guy McPherson, a retired professor of natural resources and evolutionary biology from the University of Arizona, joins the program to discuss human-induced environmental damage. McPherson, known for his blog Nature Bats Last, addresses the "head-in-the-sand syndrome" and the backlash he receives for predicting a massive human die-off. He argues that the belief in human ingenuity as a fail-safe against extinction is a form of dangerous denial.

Guy McPherson views his dire scientific outlook as liberating, as it encourages people to quit unfulfilling jobs and stop saving for a future that may never arrive due to climate change or radiation. The host shares that he recently left his own nine-to-five job based on this realization. Listeners are directed to McPherson's website, Nature Bats Last, to follow his essays and speaking engagements before the interview concludes.