Topic: Gamification

The conversation turns to the "gamification" of social and technological interactions, a concept Davis explored in "Technosis." They discuss how narratives and "game engines" can be weaponized for social control, citing modern issues like climate change and internet censorship. Davis notes the "double bind" where necessary global cooperation often requires horrific levels of bureaucratic and social monitoring.

The discussion explores how harassment could be gamified through gig economy platforms, where participants may not realize they are targeting real people. McDowell also mentions the weaponization of fungi and bacteria to create biological interfaces for electronics, noting that the United Nations has begun acknowledging the reality of cyber torture.