Topic: Criminal Trespass

The discussion shifts to the casual practice of magic in modern life, with White arguing that many people are practicing magic without realizing it. He dismisses the warnings of traditionalists who claim certain rituals are too dangerous, suggesting that such fear-mongering is often a recruitment tactic for magical orders. White jokingly suggests that a Ouija board and "criminal trespass" in an abandoned hospital are effective ways to realize the universe is weird.