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Michael Wann | The Esoteric Kobe Bryant, Skull and Bones, & Ritual Cycles
Ari Shaffir, Cancel Culture, Mushroom Trip Turning Point
The fallout from comedian Ari Shaffir's insensitive comments about Kobe Bryant is discussed, leading Carlwood to recount a pivotal mushroom trip in San Diego. This experience, involving Shaffir and other comics, served as the "turning point" for The Higher Side Chats, steering it away from being a comedy podcast.