Topic: American Southwest

The discussion shifts to a hypothesized cataclysmic event occurring between the late 1700s and mid-1800s that buried advanced civilizations in the American Southwest. Analog suggests that multiple layers of culture exist underground, with each deeper layer appearing more technologically advanced than the one above it. He notes that modern Native American populations often lived on top of these buried ruins with little knowledge of the previous inhabitants' origins.

Greg Carlwood introduces the Higher Side Chats, highlighting the American Southwest as a hub for high strangeness and esoteric traditions. Guest Corey Daniel, a researcher and guide known for his website The Phoenix Enigma, returns to the show. The discussion previews topics including Masonic influence, the Grand Canyon, and the occult analysis of recent high-profile deaths.

Corey Daniel discusses his interview with an individual claiming to be of Navajo lineage who underwent skinwalker shape-shifting training. The tradition is described as a magical gift from spirit guides intended to protect indigenous people during historical periods of trauma, such as death marches. The conversation explores the connection between fey bloodlines and the preservation of these magical lineages across generations.