Topic: American History X

The conversation shifts to the geological and paranormal features of the region, specifically the lava tubes that reportedly connect Mount Shasta to Crater Lake. Greg Carlwood mentions historical accounts of Native Americans using these caves to evade settlers. The guests also discuss the possibility of encountering Bigfoot or hearing "tree knocks" while staying on the secluded 22-acre property at night.

A visit to Manila in the Philippines served as the catalyst for Daniel Immerwahr's research into the extent of the American empire. He observed American influences such as streets named after U.S. presidents, transit systems utilizing surplus army jeeps, and local residents speaking English with familiar accents. This experience led to the realization that standard U.S. history curricula often ignore territories that are not destined for statehood.

American history contains a significant but often ignored thread of sorcery, mysticism, and occult practice dating back to the colonial era. In 1698, German Rosicrucian mystics founded a commune in Pennsylvania, influencing local folk magic and alchemy. The narrative that America was a strictly straight-laced Christian nation until the 1960s is challenged as a historical oversimplification.

Jake Hanrahan discusses his relationship with notorious art smuggler Michel Van Ryn following a successful article about his life. He reveals that director Tony Kaye is planning a Hollywood biopic based on Van Ryn's exploits. The hosts also briefly mention Russell Brand's philosophical interests and his public recovery from heroin addiction.