Tracy Twyman | Hidden Hyperspace Kingdoms, Q Anon, Disney, & The Construct

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01:01 Sweet mother Mithras people, drinking a little drink smoking a little smoke from sunny San Diego. I'm Greg Carlwood still on a serious high from this episode The Great Return of Tracy Twyman. I hope you look good and hard at the title image i made for this one because i included one of the very masonic tracing board images that the ideas in this show sort of revolve around I mean it's a doozy and i find this really interesting the overall idea of the elite controlling multi-dimensional doorways, and that the angles numbers and symbols within Freemasonry are alluding to this. As well as several of the most well known pieces of fiction many by Disney of course involving children which could take on a darker implication when we consider the other unsavory activities of The Upper Crust

01:48 And this particular show is extra nice because we can talk about Tracy's work along with some of the things the mysterious and viral 4chan poster QAnon has been cryptically saying. I know people have wanted me to cover that more in depth, and this would really be our first time with it And today it's brief, so there is probably much more to mine out of it. I've obviously been pretty vocal about not being a big fan of the Trump-is taking out the bad guys perspective that QAnon offers but have also said that we were going to spend a lot less time on the flat earth and it is a big part of the paradigm today too But that's fine! I am not going to quarantine ideas that aren't my favorite necessarily and I don't think the overall idea that I find so fascinating

02:32 which is what Tracy calls hidden hyperspace kingdoms, even relies on either of these things. It's just that from those perspectives the symbolism takes an interesting shape And I don't really mean to qualify the show today, I just get the talking. But the main thing to relay is that some updates and improvements have been made at The Plus site and everything should be pretty self-explanatory but i'm going to point out some things in the THC newsletter that you might find useful You can sign up for that on the front page of thehiresidechats.com or try to catch it on social media but i'm going to put it together this week

03:10 I'm also going to update the FAQ page to reflect some of those new elements as well. We've also gone over 100 Patreon subscribers, so i promised a Q&A and I'm still trying to determine the best way to do that traditional podcast style or using the new Discord platform in a more live chat type of way But I'm telling you in advance so we can fill up that Q&A thread on the forums or email me some questions with Patreon, Q&A and the subject line and your username. So I can be sure you're a Patreon subscriber and i will be sure to get them in there as well. TheHigherSideChats at gmail dot com

03:50 And the episode today is a bit patchy. We had some weird stuff going on with Tracy's speaker, but you know me here in The Compound I am recording these things six ways to Sunday so I sat here and jumped from one to the other whichever recording sounded best for the particular response So we got there But you know how people can be little changes in the sound and we start to wonder what the hell's going on here So now you know. But let's do it! Of course we hear about Freemasonry and Mystery Schools and paths to ascension and higher consciousness, but what if that is all fluffed to hide a literally higher dimension or subspace between the worlds? Let's get into it with Tracy Twyman on the other side. They built a little out of some crazy garbage

04:43 Called the blood of the exploited Working class have overcome their shyness Now we're calling your highness and the world Save me THC Alright Hiresight Chatters, as we deal with the whirlwind of digital distractions and do our best to navigate the choppy waters of the conspiracy. One thing that we know is that reality before us today was crafted from top down a long time ago

05:20 From the international money magic spell and the life essence suck that is the all-important J.O.B., to the ways we think about matter, consciousness, technology and the upper limits of what might be possible in this human energy farm we call home Meanwhile, we hear about breakaway civilizations that might be far further ahead than the technological hamster wheels we peons get by on. We know secret societies have held back their own sacred knowledge for decades and we've seen a long history of scientists who stumbled off the pre-approved path suppressed and marginalized But what if things like the sacred knowledge of these secret orders, the all-seeing eye on the dollar bill and the mysterious and elusive 33rd degree of Freemasonry all mean something far stranger than we'd ever thought? Possibly unlocking hidden doorways and portals to spaces between worlds where the elite can not only indulge in every luxury and extravagance but are also able to rule from a place that is truly untouchable.

06:20 Well these are the fresh provocative ideas pouring out of today's guests latest work and I can't wait to get more into it. You know Tracy Twyman well by now as she graces the THC digital stage for a fourth time Tracey first talked to us about her insights into the elite and their connections to dark entities through her own communication with entities such as Baphomet, largely covered in her book Clock Shavings. She then told us about the secret rites of the Knights Templar and their alchemy of finance which she talks about in her book Baphomet The Temple Mystery Unveiled And in her third appearance we talked about her latest book, a novel called Genuflect. We got into the cult of Mithras and that the elite up today still treasure some very old traditions. The evolution of these ideas is exactly what were getting into this time...the revealer of secrets, the teacher of myths and a true thorn in the side of those pesky occult controllers! Tracey welcome back to The Higher Side

07:17 Thank you so much. It's nice to be back. Cheers to that! I always love having you here and the latest stuff you've been expanding on given the content of Genuflect is just right up my alley, i have always been interested in the idea of hidden worlds or landmasses that used to be in the record but have moved off more modern maps And the threads you've been covering that suggest that these hidden places or maybe even multi-dimensional spaces could be the secret of secrets within something like Freemasonry is a very new take on some old material and you make a great case for it. Maybe to get people's mental gears oiled up and moving in the right direction,

07:58 Remind us of how these ideas are expressed in Genuflect and maybe the things you've seen in the world lately that mesh with it as we're closing on it being out for nearly a year now I think. Well, I definitely had hidden worlds as a feature in the novel Genuflect although doesn't really become clear that's what going on until you get towards the end of the novel It's about alchemical processes that can change the actual outer world. And really it is about the idea that we are living in the result of an alchemical process I don't expect all the listeners to know anything really much about alchemy, but when you think of alchemy, think about a bottle right? Like a vase type object where they would do their chemical transformations. If you've seen any of the alchemical images that abound from medieval times and early renaissance period

08:54 That's kind of the idea was that we are living in the result of what an alchemist did to create this world. And then that someone might be able to do the same kind of thing, to get out of this world and then create their own. Really I got that idea out of the Alchemy texts themselves where they're hinting at I had the novel set during this time period when you and I are talking. We're talking in the last week of March, and this weekend is going to be Easter and also April Fool's Day. And I took advantage of that in my novel where that's the time in which characters are doing an alchemical occult ritual tied into the rites of Kaibel worship from Rome, old Persian slash Roman cult

09:44 and also tied into the rites of the temple owners. And they're doing a ritual to open up a portal between our world and a higher realm, there's all sorts of symbolic reasons why this ties into Easter, this type of ritual. The idea is that we're in an alchemical vessel and there's a real outer world outside of that In the novel I don't want to give away too much but basically the rituals that they do at Easter time have an effect on the outer world And some of the things that become visible to people in our world as an effect of the ritual include all these anomalies in the sky, such as changing color of sun and moon. Also two suns are visible at the same time

10:33 And then there's fears, the planets actually become balls that come down from the sky and in some cases one of them ejects a fluid down into the river Thames and the other one drops down a golden chain from its body. All these weird things are seen happening in the sky what's really strange is that I only knew a little bit really about some of the things that people have been seeing lately in the sky over the last few years. When i wrote the novel, I didn't know that much about what was out there since finishing the novel. I've learned a lot more and I've seen a lot of it myself. What I'm talking about is the change with the color of the sun

11:12 and the sun blinking, which has been seen a lot lately. And a black dot in the middle of the sun is seen a lot. A lot of this stuff really resembles stuff I had in the novel and stuff that you see in alchemical texts, alchemical drawings. They're always really cryptic. You wouldn't be able to tell at first glance what it's communicating but a lot of them do show multiple suns changing color of the Sun and the heavenly bodies ejecting things into or pouring down stuff from their bodies onto the earth. The strange thing is, of course people have always taken those to be symbolic of various things chemical processes and even spiritual processes I decided to take a literal approach in my novels to actually have those things happening on Earth

12:08 And I think that was the right approach to take because it's become clear to me since writing that story, but I think we do live in an alchemical vessel. We've talked before about flat earth theories and some people think we're basically in a snow globe. I think that may be true very literally that were in one of these vessels and the chemtrails...I mean they found chemical images from hundreds of years ago with cloud formations inside of the vessel that look very similar to what people are seeing in the skies now. And people have been thinking for a while that they're trying to cover up something in the sky, In my novel I had the sun being an artificial object...a diamond actually

12:54 and that it's coming through a hole in the sky and filtering what I called hyper-uranium light from beyond our universe. There is a hole in our universe, the sun is like a crystal that plugs up that hole acting as a deck prism and letting this higher frequency light from outside of the box we're in filters it and lets it in and that's the sunlight you see so that's kind of imagery I had in the novel And I'm realizing more and more that, I think that was kind of close to reality. The stuff that people are seeing this week and more broadly over the last few years in the sky it just freaks me out how similar is is to stuff I had my story.

13:37 Yeah, it is interesting. A lot of people are examining the whole environment looking at the moon and the Sun as possibly artificial and I mean that's pretty provocative I also kind of wanted to read this from your latest article because you talk about our buddy crowe and his lunar wave stuff Yes Which might relate to this because you write YouTube star Crowe 7777 has realized that the lunar wave he's been filming on the surface of the moon, every vernal equinox for years is actually the gate of the souls of men opening up. The gate through which we ascend and descend for earthly incarnation He has also figured out that these gates are physically connected to the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn And that these are among the secrets encoded in Masonic tracing boards

14:25 He also says that authorities and experts are lying about when the equinoxes are actually occurring. Lunar waves are occurring on nights of equal day and night, which he says from observation are presently occurring on different days at different places around the world according to empirical observations of his listeners so Provocative stuff and it is very timely for this week as you mentioned maybe the moon or the lunar wave is some kind of time marker gateway to those realm just does the sun is that kinda suggestion that this is all some kinda artificial construct like a slaughterhouse we are aware of.

15:07 Yes, and I don't know where you draw the line even between artificial and natural. If the world is created by God then it's God's artifice but... I think it's just we imagine the world being, I guess we have our own ideas. Our own definitions of what is natural and what isn't so when we finally start seeing the mechanics of how it's built We start seeing the edges of the box then we feel like there's something unnatural about that but maybe if we could just say whoever created this is the god of this world or the demiurge you know he's the one who created this stuff

15:44 I don't endorse any particular model, but i'm pretty convinced at this point that we have not been told the truth about the limits of our known world and universe. I honestly do not believe what we've been told about the history of space travel. I don't know it to what extent any of it is true But I think that there have been enough holes punched in the official claims about everything from the Apollo landing to the alleged missions that are occurring right now in space and everything we've supposedly learned from that. I think holes have been punched, and so the authorities have proven to be liars, and then we're just sort of left to try to figure out everything on our own from there. And it does help, I think,

16:35 older texts. And I also think that historical chronology is questionable, so I don't know what to say exactly about what is the most reliable text but we can definitely say that before we were born at some point our ancestors had a different understanding of the world around them The idea of there being gates in heaven, one which souls come into this world incarnation through and one which they exit out of. Well that wouldn't have been too weird of an idea to our ancestors And the idea that the sun and moon kind of act as

17:15 doors to those portals appears to be throughout all kinds of Greek and Roman and Sumerian, other types of what we call ancient mythology. And you can also see it encoded even in Christian scripture and stories then it's all over Freemasonry Of course I find those tracing boards to be very valuable at the very least showing you what they whoever designed those tracing boards believed I honestly do think we're looking at an accurate portrayal of the kind of world we're in. Because the types of tracing boards i'm talking about are the types that show three pillars

17:56 It's common to see two with an eye in between them. You'll see this almost as a logo all over the place, the two pillars that are supposed to be the two in front of Solomon's temple so Yaquin and Boaz. And they're supposed to represent these two polar opposites male and female and mildness and severity or mercy judgment being hard and being soft basically right? Then there's a third option there, and this really corresponds also to the Kabbalah. The Tree of Life on that diagram of the universe in that particular mystical tradition. There are three pillars holding up what they call a tree some kind of diagram of the different spheres of existence and so you have two pillars on the side right left. They corresponded Yaqeen and Boaz like I was describing but then there is one in the center

18:52 The ones on the right and left are shorter than the one in the center. The one in the center goes all the way from the total absolute bottom of the system, which is Malkuth to all the way to the top which is the crown. The other two pillars don't go all the way at the top right? You have to take a detour in order to get up to the top My point is the pillar in the middle is the only one that will take you all away from the bottom of the top. That's the main elevator shaft, right? Whereas the other ones they don't go as deep or high, right? Yeah they don't go to every floor and I just think that such a fascinating idea this concept of hidden hyperspace kingdoms places there are off-the-map so to speak and

19:37 I know obviously this is an audio show, but when you look at those tracing board images you've pulled up on your website and the checkerboard floor all the symbolism involved in the ladders that go to the sky or the ladders that go to the sun or the people coming out of the sun and filtering down to the Masonic Tracing Board. Those images in the context A secret space or there being a room to a secret area or you can unlock a portal with magic it kinda makes sense in that new context and it's just.

20:12 A really interesting idea. It also kind of ties into the 33rd degree you've talked about, the symbolism there that on the typical compass there's 32 degrees around the planet in masonry there's 32 degrees and then there is this honorary hidden 33rd degree or like to use the elevator analogy there is another level that the elevator and typical everyday consensus reality doesn't quite get too Yes, and as your guests in the past that talked about flat earth probably pointed out there's a azimuthal equidistant map. That's the logo for the UN that flat earthers believe actually represents the real Earth

20:54 And in the UN logo it's divided into 33 segments and that thirty third segment is in the center where the North Pole is located now mainstream geography says that there's nothing there except ice but as you just mentioned yes the compass for spatial directions is divided into 32 degrees free masonry has an honorary 30th degree I believe that 33rd degree can be thought of as representing the step to a higher dimension. I think that step to a higher dimension might be physically real and located in our world right there at the North Pole, and the reason why i think that is because they're are ancient maps that put amount in their called Rupes Negra meaning black mountain or black rock

21:48 It's associated with the myth of the World Mountain, that's the highest mountain in the center of the world. You find this archetype and all of the ancient traditions and the idea is that this is the mountain of the gods at the very top of the mountain. That's the Olympus realm or the Eden Realm where the gods themselves actually live but most people for one thing they never get to go to the mountain and then they never get to see the very top of the mountains I think this is the same mountain that's described in Rosicrucian literature and stuff published by The Priory of Zion, for instance. And by Rene Dumall who was a surrealist writer he only wrote one novel really but it's about this invisible mountain concept the idea that there is a mountain that's taller than any other mountain in the world but you can't see it

22:38 And the prior is I described it as a mountain where you can't see the summit except special day when the sun is hitting in a certain way. The reason why according to the prior is on Literature and what i'm talking about is there who am i serpent ruse that they put out where they were describing this mountain and they said that this mountains where the hidden temple of solomon's located. I mentioned a set that you can see it when the light hits at a certain way at noon well thats win the sun is at very top of the sky

23:14 and that's when it is supposed to be putting out the whitest light. It puts out pretty much pure white light at its meridian, and that is when according to this poem this special mountain can be seen. What I'm thinking is yes there is land on earth that we can't see but perhaps those who are initiated or have access to special information and maybe special technology, they can see it. It's literally there you might even be able to see it yourself in the right lighting conditions so that's why I think you can't see at the mountain at noon if your ride up on it and I think that there might be lots of other stuff we cant' see because the light isn't hitting our eyes in the right way and I think thats key

24:08 In the Masonic tracing boards that I'm talking about, the two pillars they show sun on the left and moon on the right. So you got the moon and the sun on top of each one of the pillars usually in these Masonic tracing boards but then there's a third luminary in the center and that is represented variously, either as a sun that is bigger and brighter than the regular one. The one that's on the left or it can also be shown as a hexagram or a square encompass or an all seen eye usually inside of a triangle

24:46 Or sometimes it's just shown as the keystone itself. Usually when there are three lights, and usually there are three pillars in these instances too... There is an arch going between the first two pillars right? So in the keystone position of the arch that is the center you know the keystone position That's where this third light or luminary is represented either they're on the arch itself right below it or above it Now sometimes they'll show the keystone and some having been removed and they'll show this luminary shining through the hole that's made in the archway. It's pretty obvious if you look at it, but if it's not obvious enough, the Freemasons actually spelled out in their own books such as Encyclopedia of Freemasonry by Albert Mackey to talk about how the Masonic depictions of Solomon's Temple really are showing you the world and actually the universe. And he specified

25:45 that it's the world as it was known in Solomon's time, or in other words the old world. But it is also really the whole universe. They're very cryptic, The Masons about what all this means but I have seen enough of these pictures and correlated them that I think I've figured out. The arch is the firmament The light shining on the outside, the third light that I'm talking about in the middle is what I described in the novel as the hyper-uranium light. It's this light that's thought of as preceding the existence we're in and it's outside of the firmament above. The dome they say is protecting our world from chaos or whatever it is that's outside. I think there are definitely wavelengths of light

26:35 that are up there that we can't generally handle looking at. And I think maybe our sun does act as a filter so that we can have some of the light that we need, but we're not exposed to all of the wavelengths that are damaging to us. But I think that if you can safely use some of these other wavelengths of light they might allow you to see some of these hyperdimensional things and these other land masses. And I think that's what these tracing boards are showing you for one thing, I've seen a Masonic image where it actually shows guys in a Masonic lodge doing divination ritual together around a table and they've got the keystone removed so that the light is coming in from outside of the universe and it's pouring through a window into their lodge

27:28 and then onto a mirror that they have set up in front of their table, that they're working. The image from the mirror then bounces down from there onto this diagram that they have laid out on the table and it's a Masonic tracing board so they're bringing in the hyper-uranium light bouncing off a mirror and then its illuminating things on a tracing board on the table in front of them Tracing Board of Solomon's Temple, which we've been told by the Masons themselves represents the world. So that's one way of I suppose safely utilizing this light to see things and actually have it show you things on what's essentially a map and i think that it could work in much more straightforward way if The Keystone literally did open which I think may either be happening or maybe it happens periodically

28:24 But I mentioned before how people are seeing strange things in the sky, strange colors to the heavenly bodies. And then there's all of this chemtrailing which seems to be the purpose to blot out the sun and to make us see less of what's going on up there. I don't know what exactly they're hiding But the sorts of anomalies that people are describing seem to me like the kind of thing you would see if different wavelengths of light were suddenly getting through. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think this is a pretty amazing idea and you are right the Sun is on the left and the moon Is on the right in these images And anyone can Google image search Masonic tracing board and see what we're talking about here There are variations but for the most part You have the checkerboard floor and the left and right pillar and then of course that central one

29:18 And whereas the sun and moon are on the sides, usually there's some kind of star or opening with light pouring through put over the third one. And a golden road with people coming out of it and in a lot of cases the ladder is placed diagonally over that third pillar almost to symbolize a ladder to some kind of subspace I mean i can see it And maybe this long history of Masonic teachers coming out to the public and saying it's all about higher levels of consciousness, or that the ranks of masonry are just about enlightenment. It would be a good cover story and not exactly a lie either! It is about higher knowledge because only they know how to open doors and get out of this place... probably by magical means. Yeah, the flat earth paradigm is very polarizing and not exactly my favorite model at this point

30:09 But if we're just trying to present the clearest case for your perspective, you could take the observer effect literally and you can look at these tracing board images as more literal than most. And you have yourself a really enticing interpretation that is very unique where you have Freemasonry saying in these images, hey, you're too dumb to realize you're in a spiritual prison and a literal one. You stick to your 32 degree construct or the gatekeepers to the outside whatever that is and we only share that information with those who make it to the 33rd degree We don't even admit that exists which is another double entendre of symbolism

30:50 I know it's a bold suggestion, but i know im not going to be looking at these images the same way again. Can elaborate a little bit more? Please sure! Okay there is way more about hyperspace in those images if you just really look at them one of the things that are three pillars and usually a ladder going up to this gateway that describe the hole in the sky but the ladder shown leaning against nothing So you wonder what's holding the ladder up and I think it's a fourth wall. You don't see what the ladder is leaning up on because you're not seeing the other dimension that they're pointing to. I mean, I've seen stuff like this happening recently. I know this is going to sound totally crazy but one of the things I've seen when there's heavy Kim trailing in my area is what I call non-Euclidean clouds

31:43 The clouds will actually bend the light and make everything look weird where it's bending one way at the top and then bending another way at the bottom. And I've actually seen this horizon in the skyline look like it's just a flat wall in front of me. So, I don't know what that means exactly but I think it's tied into this that if you could see the other dimensions some things that look like they go on into the distance might all of sudden see walls in certain places. Whoa!

32:20 The other thing that indicates hyperspace to me is the way the pillars themselves are arranged because they're not equal distance apart like they are on the tree of life. This is a multi-dimensional picture, but the pillars are arranged in such a way that if it were made into a two dimensional picture and you were looking from the top down, it would be a right angled triangle When you're looking at it from the front, when you're walking down the path that they usually show on these tracing boards through the first and second pillars. You wouldn't at first glance see the third pillar. It's off to the side a little bit and that's the way they usually show it in one of them. Tracing boards that I have is even like barely visible behind the right pillar

33:11 And that's just showing you that you have to look in a certain way at a certain angle and the light has to hit your eyes in a certain way, to be able to see what is between the first and second pillars. And what are the first and second pillars precisely? They are poles. You know how I know it because there's actually always a directional compass put on the outside of the tracing board and east is put at the top. And so, the right and left pillars, the two that are in front those represent the north and south poles. So this is showing you a third pole beyond the north and south poles. That's the higher dimension we're talking about it does exist has its own direction and space but we don't have a compass to include that

34:10 But it's just as real. It's not ephemeral, it's not just like something that is nebulous and doesn't mean anything... It has its own maps and terrain if you could find the right light to look at it with. I think that's what they're telling me there so... I love it, and you've been writing and thinking about things in this lane for a long time. And to approach it from a slightly different direction we now have this 4chan poster who's been getting a lot of attention who claims to be an insider who is very close to the president goes by the moniker of QAnon To be honest, there is no subject that's been requested more from the audience lately than an in-depth look at QAnon. And I've avoided it because i just don't want to jump on the trendy conspiracy stories that come out like this too early. I don't want to just go where the wind blows and... It's highly possible this is another in a long line of internet hoaxes

35:06 I'm not a huge fan of this Trump is a dark horse rising up to fight the new world order narrative and that is an aspect of the QAnon stuff, but I'm gonna be open-minded. And disclaimers aside...I've looked at how a lot of people are covering QAnon and you take it into these ideas that we're talking about I brought up in the intro You kind of relate it to your work in a way that's pretty mind-blowing. I guess can you introduce Q to the uninitiated and talk about how it ties into the ideas that we're talking about? Well, I'll do my best here and i've got it. But I have not had much time to look at what q has been posting lately but Thumbnail, I guess is that here's a guy who supposedly? Is on the inside of the trump administration To the point where he's next to the president frequently throughout the day plotting things in secret with him and other secret co-conspirators supposedly And he's painting a picture of

36:07 a revolution happening within the elite. This is all stuff that's being released in the politically incorrect segment of 4chan, this is a website where people can post things anonymously and that's why sometimes intelligence Is dropped from whistleblowers on 4chan, but it makes more sense to go to wiki leaks or someplace like that But anyway fortune you can actually have a discussion with people about it I guess and so that's what's going on. He's been dumping all of this information most of it is riddles and written cryptically

36:44 Some of it contains predictions, some of which have come true. Most of them haven't. It seems they haven't and so I understand what you're saying about how You don't know whether to take it seriously or not? I don't either. I take it seriously. I guess I can say that but I don't know what exactly to make of it. So I do feel that the president is in on this That doesn't mean that what Q is saying is true, because this could all be an elaborate psyop which the president himself isn't on. But I agree with you about wanting to be very cynical of the idea that he's any kind

37:22 Hero and especially that he's against the new world order But he's secretly hiding amongst them to try to fight them on the inside. That's Definitely what Q wants you to think, to the point where he's sending out messages in response To Lynn Rothschilds tweets and then it seems she is responding to him And they're making death threats to each other and things like that The thing that makes it seem like there's some legitimacy to the claim that is originating from the president's office is that there have been things where the Q person said something in one of his messages and then the President's own tweet

38:07 Use the exact same language within a couple of minutes of the post So things like that definitely anything that the president's office is in on it But yeah I don't know if it's true or not The only reason why I really got involved and writing about it was just because it did seem to me like whoever Q is Had been reading my website. Hmm because they were talking about some of the stuff I was just describing about hyperspace using cryptic language Using some of the same metaphors that I've been bringing up in my writings lately. And that made me think that me writing about some of these particular metaphors and symbols brought it out in the open and made whoever Q is feel like, It's okay to talk about this now

38:54 what I'm talking about specifically, about some of his code words. He keeps saying that we need to expand our thinking he keeps referring to maps and really to territory that isn't featured on the regular maps And most people think that this is a metaphor for something else. And they keep looking to current events and history, analyzing different conspiracy theories. They keep looking at the Pizzagate stuff to try to correlate this. And then also I guess there's some people who think that it has to do with North Korea and that North Korea is really a Potemkin village. It doesn't really exist This is some stuff that's been hinted at by Q, that North Korea is kind of a puppet pretend enemy built up by the CIA And so some people think that the comments about the map are referring to that but I think it's hyperspace kingdoms things that aren't on the map because they're hidden from us

39:55 The whole thing started really right around the time that Trump went to Saudi Arabia and there was a change in power over there. A whole bunch of Saudi princes got arrested and their stuff was confiscated So Q, when he first came out one of the first things he was talking about really was that there's tons of resources. The elite have tied up and he was promising people they're going to take it and redistribute it essentially. And that hit me right away as being relevant what I was starting to realize that if there is hidden territory God knows how much there is

40:37 Well, you know that's all got a real estate value. There is probably gold and diamonds there and God knows what kind of technology and other types of resources we can't even imagine. And look at the conditions that were living in here on earth where it seems like maybe they have enough resources but definitely our monetary system is so left up that will never be distributed to everyone who needs them every country is in debt We're all slaves to these banks that seem to control everything and there's only a few people in control of those. Well, what if what Q is suggesting is true? That those elites are all criminals and there's really only a few of them who have all these resources that we don't even know about

41:26 You know, he was saying yeah you think that you know who the richest families are. You don't know who they are I mean you don't how much money they have because whatever they get caught lying about on their taxes well that's just a fraction of whatever they're hiding from you right so that was just the hint When I started noticing that some of the code words seemed to have to do with hyperspace. Oh, and don't they always say that people who believe he's a dark horse? They say he's playing four dimensional chess. That made me think this is what we're talking about! Then you started talking about Sleeping Beauty and telling people to look for Sleeping Beauty in her castle

42:07 Well, in the Priory of Zion poem Les Serpents Rouge that I was telling you about where they describe the hidden mountain and the hidden Temple of Solomon. They also describe it as Sleeping Beauty's castle if you think about it makes sense because that middle pillar in the Kabbalah is the same as that middle pillar on the Masonic tracing boards. That's the one that's hidden its sleeping because you don't see it usually And in the Kabbalah, the name of the pillar in the middle is Hebrew for the word beauty. So yes I absolutely think the sleeping beauty references in QAnon are a reference to the middle pillar as the route that you take to get to the hidden hyperspace kingdom just like on The Tracing Board they show

42:59 often a path. Sometimes it's a ladder, like we were saying lean up against nothing but sometimes it's a pathway kind of reminds me of the yellow brick road in The Wizard Of Oz but it starts out straight and then it starts twisting and it looks like it's going down in the beginning and then it starts to go up so it's a non-euclidean pathway leading up into a higher dimension And that was gonna be one of my comments that this does look like the yellow brick road to the technologically advanced and mystical city of oz. But also that there are a lot of Disney movies that revolve around people, mainly kids being transported to a different realm. And that is the hero's journey but even just looking at the details with some of these tracing boards I see images that look a lot like the Tumbling Down The Rabbit Hole scene in Alice In Wonderland and then you have the kids from Peter Pan they fly off to Neverland and they aim at a star that's shining just like these images

44:00 So it does make you wonder, maybe the Masons sold the key. And I was even thinking the other day about all of the Masonic symbolism in DC how America was called The New Atlantis and then we have these weird systems of measurement that are separate from the metric system And for example, water freezes randomly at 32 degrees. Hell yeah! Like it's encoded to be the transmutation point which is just sort of a weird tangent but I bring this up because you talk about Disney in one of your videos people dismiss the idea of him being a mason but apparently he was in the Des Molais Society which was a Masonic grooming organization for young kids

44:41 He seemed pretty well versed in the mysteries regardless and Disneyland does have that elite club 33. Maybe he knows something we don't but to tie it all the way back to QAnon, let's talk about Tomorrowland because as well as Sleeping Beauty this was another Disney thing that he referenced right? Yes he mentions Tomorrowland a lot which I had only remembered being one of the sections in Disneyland A couple years ago they made a movie about it George Clooney's in it, but that is about hidden hyperspace kingdoms. Exactly It's about Okay if this isn't creepy Especially after the pizza gate stuff came out all right the story is that there's a hidden world where the elite hide their Technology they don't think the world is ready for yet

45:34 And it's accessible through, it's a small world. Which okay there is some symbolism there we're in a small world compared to what the real world is. The thing is that kids that they decide are going to be initiated into the secrets of Tomorrowland and they choose kids that they think are especially intelligent and then they give them a special lapel pin. They don't know what it means, then they go on the ride It's A Small World and when they go past a certain point in the ride, a laser goes out and touches the lapel pin And then once that happens a gateway opens up and then they go into Tomorrowland where you know everything is flying cars and everything is in Jetsons future

46:21 The point is, Dizzy touched upon this idea. Spelled it out exactly precisely what I was describing and you know the real reason why i thought about it as being so specific and about it being a place where the elite of this world this flesh-and-blood world might hide to get away from the rabble is because that's what the story is of Atlas Shrugged right and Ayn Rand wrote And i think that a lot to do with inspiring this tomorrow land idea it's very similar. For people who are familiar with atlas truck give us the details of the similar portion because you are right its exact match okay so again the idea coming out of and ran philosophy attitude to life,

47:06 I think she was using the world analogy. The true story of Atlas is that he's holding up the sky, but since the world has been thought of as a globe for recent years... A lot of times when people see the image of Atlas holding up a globe they think it's the world and so people think Atlas holds up the world He's supposed to hold up the sky! The metaphor still kind of holds But the point is that she's comparing the elite to the ones holding everything up keeping everything going and that they're overburdened by that, and by the problems created by regular people. Regular people are so stupid and needy that they're the ones ruining everything... So anyway, The world is a dystopian future in which the price of gas has gone up so high That people don't drive much anymore And there isn't much air traffic Instead people take trains, and so the main character is In the train business

48:03 And the point is just that everything sucks because supposedly, the government's been taken over by people with a liberal mentality. They're putting all of these unnecessary requirements on businesses and high taxes Therefore, it's just too difficult to run a business and is not worth doing anymore is the idea. That's why everything's falling apart." And so one of the guys in the story... He's not even a business owner he's just mechanic at a shop but he happens to be a genius and he invents this free energy machine

48:42 And I haven't finished reading the novel. So just a caveat there, it may very well be that it makes more sense in the novel than it did in the movie. Assuming that the movie is based on the novel, it's kind of weird because she's describing it as like a mini particle accelerator and yet she's also saying that it's a Tesla device And I just can't see those two things being the same object, but at any rate it's a little tiny free energy machine. This guy John Galt makes it and then right about the time that he's finished with it he realizes that it's just not worth showing the world this thing. And he'd rather disappear and create his own world with people that he thinks are worthy of breathing in his air, you know? So he does that and that's... The main character starts the story discovering his hidden world He creates one of these hidden worlds with his quantum technology or whatever it is. He creates a world within the Rocky Mountains which you can't see from the outside

49:45 There's a force field around it and she manages to get through with an airplane. Her airplane crashes through, and she discovers this world He has brought all of these people that he's chosen. He brings them one by one John Galt does. He picks people that he thinks are worthy And gonna contribute to his society and he invites them to come To a place where they'll be rewarded for their efforts and everything will be fair and based on merit And one by one, every single one of these people chooses to leave the life that they have. And in some cases their families and most cases their businesses and they just disappear and nobody knows where they're going but there really going to this hidden world in the name of the hidden world is Atlantis so

50:32 There's a number of reasons why she could have chosen that, stemming from Greek mythology and Atlantis is named after Atlas. Supposedly it's a different atlas than the one that holds up the sky but I think they're the same. And I think Atlantis is the same kind of idea as the actual Plato story of Atlantis. I think they're describing a hyperspace situation there too because I think they are describing the world we used to have the universe really sort of dropping down into a dimension below our perception. And that's why the stories are a little bit weird, it doesn't really fit into chronology and yet we all have a story about Atlantis or the flood but that's sort of a side issue but yeah

51:15 I just think this is so fascinating and i've been pretty critical of the flat earth perspective lately but you know regardless of that one of the things people always say is well who cares what would the motivation be to hide the shape of the earth? Well, that's what this whole conversation. Is this clearly a motivation if this is a construct some artificial reality some slaughterhouse or terrarium and only the 33 degree freemasons have found a way out of it. I mean we are in a zoo, we are in a prison this whole economic enslavement model the way that the whole planet or whatever is all playing is under the influence of the elite I mean this is their playground for our consciousness basically and this is our prison I mean this would be the biggest motivation of all it makes a lot of sense

52:08 you talked about or you mentioned Tesla technology and that is a huge thing to tie in here because if we're going to try to bring QAnon, hyperspace areas, Freemasonry and Trump all together I mean, we know that John G. Trump was his you know, Trump's uncle was the guy who actually was responsible for looking over Tesla's material when they took it when they confiscated it from Tesla when he died This is not a secret. It's very public information that Trump's uncle was this guy Well maybe Trump's uncle learned in Tesla documents

52:47 about some of this very stuff. And maybe Trump does know about it, and maybe this QAnon stuff is related because like you said he does mention seeing the world differently from a high enough vantage point. He talks about maps and legends and keystones and the 40 thousand feet number. He says what is SpaceX? Expand your thinking that's a quote This kind of is interesting, you know I mean You've even made a video talking about Mar-a-Lago and the fact that you can't get into that club without paying something like $100,000 a year. Well what could go on there? Could that be a portal to one of these hyper spaces? You would never know unless you're gonna fork over a hundred thousand dollars to crack

53:33 that inner circle. And what's worth $100,000? Do people get rich by giving their money away for no reason? I mean usually they have to make some smart financial decisions to keep it all you don't make money by giving it away so what is a value at Mar-a-Lago for that price tag that you can't get anywhere at any nice resort. So there are some interesting aspects that possibly tie these things up and maybe it relates also to Plus Ultra, but that's a big can of worms but go for it. Yeah no plus ultra yes is a motto that actually appears in the tile work at Mar-a-Lago

54:11 And there could be any number of reasons for that. I mean, it's just a Spanish decor that they chose so this is a Spanish origin phrase and not necessarily Spanish origin It's a Latin phrase but is really made famous because Of its use on coins that were minted by the Spanish royal family around the time that they started colonizing in the New World And they found lots of gold and silver when they did that. And so they started minting lots of coins, some of them got used by the colonists over here in fact those were the first dollars that were used were actually Spanish coins and they had this motto on them plus ultra with the two pillars which represent the pillars of Hercules. So the point of using that phrase on that coin, the phrase means there is more beyond

54:59 There's more to our empire the Spanish Royal Empire beyond the pillars of Hercules. There's more land there's more stuff or money Wow, to see that phrase popping up in such specific places is quite interesting So yeah, just as the two pillars of Hercules seem to represent to our ancestors to represent sort of a boundary where they didn't know what was in the oceans beyond the two pillars. Well here they can represent those same things as the two pillars on the Masonic tracing board which is I pointed out that's the North and South Pole

55:39 So that designates the limits of the world that at least you and I can experience as non-astronauts, right? We can only experience things that are between the North and South Poles. Of course we think of it is a sphere so it's hard to even think if those two things isn't closing something but that is the way that we need to look at it to understand this The idea is there's something beyond that now plus ultra also happens to be the name of the secret society in the movie Tomorrowland that runs tomorrow land and supposedly both Tesla and his arch enemy Thomas Edison were members of Plus Ultra together in the movie. That's what they say, that's interesting itself they're showing you

56:28 Members of the scientific elite we thought were enemies, but they're saying oh no They're really friends if you actually go into the secret world where the elite live Actually their buddies which is just like what really happens at elite parties where people who are political enemies Have sex with all the same prostitutes together it's again a true depiction of what's really going on here and The funny thing is plus ultra is a phrase that I've used repeatedly in the past for things that I've done. So, I had a website called Plus Ultra and I had a podcast called Plus Ultra and now I brought it back and that's the name of my premium content on my website. I got videos and podcasts and I call it Plus Ultra because that's going beyond the paywall you know getting the extra stuff that the premium subscribers get

57:18 And it's an apt analogy. I don't feel bad about using it, I don't think this is some kind of dark concept. In fact, I think it's quite exciting concept because It just means there's more stuff to explore and just because the elite know how to use it doesn't mean that we can't learn how to use it too. Right? And I think we may very well be in a time period in which The veil is being lifted You know, we started off talking about the portals which Pro 7-7 found that seemed to be at least there's one behind the moon and one behind the sun. And there may be another one somewhere in the sky and supposedly those doors open at certain parts of the year. I think this year we're seeing some special changes around this time in the sky perhaps indicating that the veil is lifting

58:08 that different streams of light are getting into our system and we're being allowed to see some of the extra stuff. I don't know how it's going to turn out, but i hope its a happy ending here But it does seem like the governments in the world are trying hard to hide it all behind a veil of artificial clouds Well, it definitely could be possible. I mean this material ties into a lot of strange little threads that guests have brought up in the past. I mean Walter Bosley not only does he have a book Latitude 33 about Disney being built specifically on a ley line for energetic purposes... I mean you could be taking that way further but it's a related idea

58:52 And he also talks about the Sonora Aero Club, which is a group...a secret group from America's early days that involved Germans who seemed to be making these flying crafts that were well outside of the norm way off the radar technologically speaking to what was being worked on. society basically built around the knowledge of these crafts and what's strange is that Charles Delchow had drawings of these crafts and on one of them it says Trump right across the top. And this was before he was elected president? Yeah, I mean this is crazy! I cannot get over that image and I just think it connects so well...and so here you have Disney being built

59:38 for a specific energetic purpose on a specific geolocation and that Trump might be involved in a secret society that has higher technology. I mean, you mentioned Tesla and Edison being in this supposed club? What is UFO technology all about? Is electro-gravitics maybe their secrets of electricity open these portal ways. Maybe that's what the Bermuda Triangle was all about, maybe there is a natural one there? You could even look at Admiral Byrd story and the hollow earth thing where Admiral Byrd is flying over a pole and looking down and seeing green land that shouldn't exist or maybe he's looking through one of those gateways I mean there are a lot of old stories

1:00:20 people have drawn conclusions to that are different, but if you walk those conclusions back and just look at the Details of the story you might be looking at a secret hidden hyperspace kingdom. Yes exactly right on well Fascinating stuff as always, Tracy. You've managed to tie in a ton of symbolism mythology the plot lines of famous works and possibly revealed a pretty massive secret any idea where this work is taking you or what the next chapter is going to be? It's all about the anal birth at the homunculus my friend All right Yes it's all about that Well that sounds like fun stuff That's all I have say man

1:01:04 That's all I have to say. Fair enough, well i do love the work maybe we'll talk about John D and anal birds in the future but tell the people where they can read watch and subscribe your stuff for more sure tracytwineman.com And when you get there, I would recommend looking for the Plus Ultra Premium Membership button and signing up so that you can see and hear absolutely everything that I present. Right on! Yeah see? I only got plus here but you got plus ultra clearly at next level No kidding yeah of course You gotta have that ultra aspect Man i'm missing out You should go ultra

1:01:43 Well, I do think it's really awesome material. The hidden hyperspace kingdoms the plus ultra secret society that possibly unlocks this the new meaning to the symbols we see in the black cube and the Masonic tracing board and just the honorary 33rd degree how it's kind of a quasi between-the-worlds degree quite possibly an allusion to a place that exists in the same way and maybe Walt Disney knows about it and built a park around a secret doorway to take children too. It's just great, so awesome stuff you are the best thanks for sharing your latest and keep at it! Thank you very much You got it Holy hell and hallelujah people this was one hell of a return to the weird rides we all know and love

1:02:30 And if you're playing that drinking game where you take a shot every time I say provocative, then i doubt your driving anywhere for awhile because i said that almost everytime i talked. But what other word really does justice to the ideas on the table today? I loved it and time flew by so quickly i didn't even get to ask Tracy about getting cut off mid interview on Coast 2 Coast AM I didn't hear it myself, but apparently Tracy was on there just a few weeks ago. Nothing strange there she's done Coast to Coast plenty of times great promotional opportunity and as she was talking about this very stuff they cut to commercial hung up on her and then came back and went to open lines like nothing happened! I don't know if it was the tip-toeing towards the flat earth perspective that got under their skin or terms like anal birth but apparently they weren't having it

1:03:22 And I don't know what to make of some of this stuff. Like, she's interpreting symbolism and mythology and esoteric doctrine in looking at it several ways... literally, figuratively related to other material? And the idea that abusing children violently and sexually has a purpose in elite magic… That's a persistent theme for the conspiracy world! Long time running They used to say that this was for life extension. Now they're pretty open about using younger people for blood transfusions, and if you listen to the personal accounts of guys like Jay Parker this abuse is pretty real in satanic style cults

1:04:01 But I do get an icky feeling when the material starts to sound a little homosexually derogatory. Tell it like it is, if something's in the material then its' in the material and I would not want to censor it but we need a pretty clear separation between gay and pedophilic And I know i keep mentioning this book Sex and Rockets, John Carter's book about Jack Parsons and his occult leanings but he writes a lot about the Babylon workings and the attempts by Parsons and L. Ron Hubbard to make a moon child they were even in written correspondence with Crowley at the time but in Sex & Rockets he does say Parsons seemed to be a bit of a swinger and maybe bi but the attempts to birth a moon child revolve mostly around this woman Marjorie Cameron

1:04:50 She was a woman in the Navy, served in DC as an aide to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Retired moved to California and joined The Agape Lodge which was a house that Parsons owned in Pasadena he basically just opened it up as a bohemian occult fraternity And on the day that she arrived Parson's diary says that he quote invoked the goddess Babylon So, Parsons is out in the desert alone and Babylon appeared. And then he translated the Libur 49 which Parsons saw as the fourth chapter of the book of the law and Babylon says hey man I'm sending you an elemental. I'm sending you a vessel that will birth you a moon child

1:05:35 You're forbidden from telling her that she has this role to play as the vessel for the moon child but you're gonna know where because the sign is gonna be that she's gonna come to you and reveal. That she saw a silver cigar shaped ufo and that apparently did happen cameron did see a silver cigar shape ufo and she did tell parsons about it and then he knew that she was the vessel Parsons called Cameron his elemental in a letter to Crowley saying that she had green eyes and red hair as predicted, and Cameron and Parsons spent two weeks in bed banging it out. And she got pregnant! And then it gets weird because Cameron did say that she had two of Jack Parson's abortions, and she claimed well after he died that actually nine years after the working rather than nine months, She did have a moonchild But it's really hard to know what that means

1:06:30 They just describe a moon child as a child born on the astral plane rather than bringing something into physical existence. But I guess there's multiple interpretations and i just don't know you got a lot of stuff going on sex magic and spirit babies it's easier for me to talk about hidden hyperspace kingdoms though, And I know that the model here is that penetrating the black sun is the key in lock mechanism that opens these portals apparently But I still have a hard time really wrapping my head around how that would work. But we did get to talk about QAnon a little bit today, probably not as much people would have wanted but i heard Tracy podcasting about Q and it was very good but once she said that it wasn't fresh in her mind...I knew we couldn't spend too much time on it no big deal though because this one ranks pretty high on my far out speculation scale

1:07:22 But I do love the threads that make it seem plausible. I like the Disney tie-ins, I like the timeliness and crow tie in. And I highly recommend checking out Tracy's website she has been working hard on all this stuff and I respect that work ethic quite a bit I hope you were intrigued by her ideas. Definitely let her know if you feel so inclined! Lately, i've had several guests come back and tell me they've received great feedback from THC fans particularly Paul LaViolette and Dr. Kolbaba So big thanks for being cool I know so many audiences aren't actually. In fact, there was a lot of drama with another show that's somewhat in our wheelhouse and they ended up shutting down their Facebook group because their own audience i guess was trolling them that hard or something

1:08:12 which is just night and day from the THC Facebook group or the Plus Forum. The biggest slice of the THC listening pie seems to just be cool people who like interesting stuff, and that makes me feel like I'm cultivating the right sort of audience. We're here to get an education maybe do some speculation have a good time try on some new models for what might be possible vent It's all good stuff. We know there are secrets, now what are they? Could they be this? I personally think we do have a precedent for the possibility of portals to other realms in a big way actually. The psychedelic experience, astral travel, lucid dreaming, legends like the Bermuda Triangle and ancient megalithic sites that are said to have been portals...I know i've heard legends that could fit that mold. Ley lines and geomancy

1:09:03 Is it possible that some of the geometric data that the Freemasons hold dear involves control over these realms or control over the doorways? I am more than convinced that ideas we see in sci-fi or popular books and novels even like james bond for example you know literature and films are created the contain storylines of classified type information because the authors have those connections usually through military intelligence or the lodge at the bath house whatever, So to apply that to Atlas Shrugged, The Wizard of Oz and Peter Pan. In fact on Disney's website you can watch the exact scene where the kids fly to Neverland I'll link it in the show notes but they follow a star and morphs at the last second into that type of DMT trip geometric pattern and it does make you think about the idea that maybe something is being revealed in all this

1:09:57 Provocative stuff. Thanks for listening again and for being so cool! Sign up for THC Plus, it's only 5 bucks a month or 60 a year I work pretty hard on giving you better service than you'll get at Applebee's but you give that guy five bucks Is he out here bringing ya hidden hyperspace kingdoms with your Mai Tai? I don't think so In fact, in the plus show today we got into moon theories and mythology. Erano, Skya and Saturn Tracy's communication with an entity claiming to be Mithras and its channeled answers Diamonds the Superman logo on hyperspace Pink Floyd in The Great Pyramid Think about the imagery there this is one of my favorite parts of the whole damn thing

1:10:38 But also the new chronology movement and how it relates, changing reality with magic. The prospect that John Dee himself is the Demiurge Bloomberg in the Mithraeum Tower of Babel connection And another provocative question Is Mecca at the real North Pole? Provocative, provocative stuff friends $5 a month 60 a year and you can get the plus feed on any device with ease You can also download the THC music and join the conversation with other plus people It's a good time Until we meet again, I'm outta here. Your move reality splitting scientists of the secret plus ultra order free masonic hyperspace headmasters and villains beyond the veil your fuckin' move. You know the plan has always been to hack your brain MKUltra's trying to drive you insane They'll explode your heart if they think that's what it takes

1:11:36 You think I'm answering the phone, well I ain't. You gotta keep the curtains drawn cause you don't want anyone thinking your at home Well your not! You should tape the mail slot And baby if i seem withdrawn let me say it's cause I just dont wanna go and get whacked Maybe you should know that The trauma affects you like it does everyone It's just a game plan, it's what the world's become They want a pat down and a swap Don't you see what's going on? Well now you know You're better keeping on your own Cause' you can see Masters lie too much Oh baby, you can only trust yourself

1:12:28 And if you think the system's out of touch It is and you can only trust yourself I hope you know the elite aren't your friends They'll suck out everything from you in the end If for some reason, you think I might be wrong I wonder where you got that opinion from You gotta keep the curtains drawn, cause you don't want anyone thinking you're at home. Well you're not! You should tape the mail slot and baby if I seem withdrawn let me say it's cause i just dont wanna go and get whacked maybe you should know that The trauma affects you like it does everyone It's just a game plan its what the world has become

1:13:26 They want a pat down and a swap Don't you see what's going on? Well now you know You're better keeping on your own Cause' you can see, masters lie too much Oh baby you can only trust yourself And if you think the system is out of touch It isn't. You can only trust yourself You might think that these problems are small Maybe they aren't registering at all Now they know you're naive and vulnerable

1:14:29 You won't believe all of the stunts that they'll pull. Cause you can see, the masters lie too much Oh baby you can only trust yourself And if you think The system's out of touch It isn't and you can only trust yourself Cause you can see the masters lie too much Oh baby, you can only trust yourself And if you think the system's out of touch It is and you can only trust yourself