THC 116: Mr. Gates | Illuminati Symbolism & The Hip Hop Conspiracy

00:04 In the 1930s, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed a nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the Fireside Chats. His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times. But we're in the 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire For a new era of worldly frustration We offer a fresh conversation! I'm Greg Carlwood These are The Hireside Chats Here we go, Ironside Shedders. Drinking a little drink and smoking a little smoke from sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood The Secret Space Program conference was awesome last weekend Thanks to everyone who came by to hang out You're all awesome And i am really pumped about today's show We got another Moneybomb winner to check in with ladies and gentlemen His name is Jeremy

00:52 As far as the interview, it's kind of interesting because today show we were going to dive way more into the Illuminati symbolism that we see everywhere today. But Mr Gates and I started talking about hip-hop and Tupac and Biggie and Cat Williams and Michael Jackson even a little Martin Luther King Jr And Malcolm X on the side for good measure and it ended up being a really interesting episode about the elites management of black culture and really all But here we talk specifically black entertainers, and I really loved it. I learned a lot So we're gonna dive into that after a quick five minutes with today's money bomb winner who brought up another interesting Conspiratorial thread in the music industry that also jives with the talk I had with Mr.. Gates

01:32 So I'm gonna stop wasting your time and play this little spot with Jeremy, the winner of $421 along with our other Money Bomb winner this round. Definitely donate to the Hiresite Chats for your chance to be the winner of the next round which has already started and i am going to be getting serious with Mr Gates on the other side Alright people! I'm here with Jeremy another Money Bomb winner for this round Another 421 dollars Jeremy man how's it goin'? Oh, it's going great. I'm doing excellent this evening Greg Thanks for donating and congrats man! I'm glad you could win Yeah i'm totally stoked like when I got your email It just like totally made my day. I'd had a few synchronistic things happen that day and uh yeah I just got back and I was- My mind was blown so thank you so much

02:20 Right on, man. You're not the first to say that this money bomb has coordinated with other synchronicities but where are you from and what do you do? So I'm in Seattle Washington been here for about a decade totally love it out here spend my weekdays working in the video game industry and Yeah, and then when I'm at home. I spend just as much time with my wife and two kids as possible And I spend a lot of time playing banjo and drums as well nice very cool So you know whenever someone wins these things? I usually like to ask them a little bit about the show I mean what do you have a favorite guest or favorite topic if you've been listening for a while oh

03:03 I've been listening for about a year. It was actually the first podcast i ever listened to, it's like alright i want to listen to a podcast and so you know spend a few hours searching around and i was like oh this looks really interesting And i've been hooked ever since, you know? I'm refreshing every couple of days waiting for the next. Oh wow man! Yeah that's awesome keep up the great work Thank you but let me warn you they don't all give you $400 Yeah, a couple of I jotted down a couple my favorite episodes. Yes, I particularly loved Dave Asprey That was kind of an interesting one and I picked up on his podcast now as well Lennon honor is another one that stood out that I Also like being a father some of the things that he was saying just really hit home So I thought that was really great

03:55 David seaman was another really good one that i thought and jordan maxwell and then just the latest episode with them. Not john perkins robert morningstar yes robert morning star i just finished listening to that one and it, That was great. Space is of a great interest to me, you know sort of conspiracy around food and like banking are definitely if I interested in so yeah but i really love it all that those kind of the things that stood out to me. Yeah man I need to do another one on GMOs and that kinda stuff because its been awhile but sometimes it's hard to find the right guest for that kinda thing because

04:36 A lot of people have some weird opinions and I want to get someone that's credible, you know? And there is a lot of snake oil in that field. So it gets tough. Absolutely! Energy...I also love that topic too. I've sort-of been fascinated by Nikola Tesla and I've heard you reference him quite a bit so i really love that. I've been reading into Nikola Tesla for awhile so I think thats great It's just that kind of intrigue around him and his relations to the banking industry, and the whole thing is just really fascinating. It is yeah it's a wild story the whole world could have been different but um another thing I like ask people man do you have any guests that you like? Any researchers out there that you like that I should get that haven't been on this show yet

05:22 So I thought about that and i couldn't think of a single person but it did come up with a couple of topics maybe just food for thought. I heard about a theory and i just started to read into it a little bit from my friend where he was talking about in music there's A440 that we use now, and then there is back before the Nazis, they were using A432. And so there's a theory basically that the Nazis changed the standard tuning that is used nowadays to create inharmonious vibrations that actually are not healing and I was fascinated by that and started scratching the surface but it was kind of interesting

06:11 Yeah, yeah so that was one thing that I thought of. When i heard about it I was really surprised. Yeah I have not looked into that much but I have heard whispers about this similar thing with any kind of radio frequencies or certain vibrations any kind of electronic fog that's going out there they seem to some people say that they put it out at an level from the way the human brain resonates. So there's definitely some weird stuff there so one last big question for you man, you know that The Money Bomb is made up of the people's donations so I always like to give the people a hint at what the winner might use the money for if they've gotten time to think about it What do you think man any plans for the money? Absolutely yeah i've had i've had a couple days to think about it and you know It's funny it's like

06:59 The first thing that was like oh wow what should i do and then i can start creeping in a mic well. I like you reference it is the people's money so i started thinking what would the people want me to do and so i'm definitely thinking i'm gonna give half of it back to my mom Wow, absolutely. It's totally worth it you know I want you to keep doing what you're doing and so i think that's terrific with the rest of it I have been wanting to purchase a conspiracy as well for a bit particularly the squid of power tea So I'm going to be picking that up. And then right when I got your news, actually... ...I was thinking about going to this concert There's this jazz drummer Jeff Hamilton that I really love and I was like, well, I don't know it's 30 bucks? I don't know if I should go. If i got your email, I was like fuck it! I'm going! All right so yeah

07:50 Very cool, man. Well you know don't don't give me back too much No Just like the other person who won in this round they wanted to do that too And I'm like you know when the universe gives you a gift you should uh further yourself in some way? I appreciate it. I got my portion Yeah totally well I'll keep thinking on that but that's kind of my gut thought so sure ma'am and I I do appreciate It that's really great that the other winner said the same thing is terrific oh Right on man. Well, I'm super happy that i got to talk to you Jeremy You seem like a great guy and im glad the money could go to you And uh Im glad Jeff Hamilton is going to have another fan in those seats Absolutely yeah right on Alright well take care of yourself Alright you too Greg

08:36 Alright people, as we continue to comb through the flowing locks of the elite's occult symbolism we realize that what we see today in Hollywood movies, corporate logos, national landmarks, music videos, city names and nearly all aspects of modern culture is largely rooted in the most ancient of ancient cultures. For motivations I still don't fully understand. And today's guest, Mr Gates is a comedian entertainer and host of the Haterazi podcast but he has done a heavy amount of research and work to peel back as many layers of the Illuminati onion as one can do without being on the inside He has put most of this research into The Shadowy Elite in an audiobook series called Jupitern I've had the pleasure of hearing parts 1 & 2 and am so psyched to have him here to talk about it! Mr Gates my man how are you?

09:20 Hey, how you doing man? Thanks for having me. Yeah it's a real pleasure I love what i've heard from the jupiter in series so far It's entertaining its well produced But most importantly managed chock-full of information about what the symbols we see really represent And I think it's great but I'm sure some people are wondering where the name comes from So why call this series about the Illuminati Jupiter turn well if you look into the ancient world You know at a time before You know, before mankind really knew much. If we go back to the beginning of recorded history... Back to the Fertile Crescent.

09:59 You could affect anything on the planet, you know. If you wanted to grow fruits, plants... if you want to get this tree out of your way, you could chop it down But the one thing that ancient men couldn't affect was the heavens, the sky They couldn't stop it from raining they couldn't stop it from a tornado They couldn't stop these things so they just attributed it to something greater than them and called them God or Gods If you look at the original religions, going all the way back to Babylon and going back to Samar even. You will see that although these gods and goddesses change names they're usually the same celestial bodies And the two celestial bodies that keep coming up are Saturn and Jupiter hence the name Jupiter

10:52 Yeah, man. It's kind of weird because modern culture has programmed us to look at these old polytheistic religions and all this astrology stuff as primitive like oh they didn't understand science so they worship the planets and the stars like a bunch of ignorant primitives but yet these same groups who have the power to inject that type of mindset into the culture are the same people that are secretly paying homage to it it almost seems like I don't know, like a pointless superstition or holding onto a rabbit's foot for good luck? Do you think there is some type of esoteric power behind their use of these symbols today or are they just paying homage. That's something that still

11:31 that I still haven't gotten to the bottom of. All the research i've done looking into this stuff, why? That's the question always. Why are they same things? Do we find the same symbolism, the same gods and goddesses throughout the old and new world Yeah, I really don't have an answer for it. No worries man but it's something that I like to ask all the researchers that are on this track but the why seems to elude everybody But I think its interesting because these elites are masters of manipulation so if you think about is as a superstitious thing or some type of worship say like the Catholic religion which they built as mind control machine Why would the elite masters of these tricks be paying homage to these archetypes in the same ways?

12:17 unless there's some type of deeper meaning. Yeah, like you said it is just a mystery I don't know why they use it other than the fact that these are archetypal images that go way back even further than recorded history we find these same drawings of stars and planet systems predating recorded history on rock drawings or cave drawings It's weird, I mean they're powerful people so something they're doing is working. But one example that I really liked in Jupiter was your breakdown of Jay Z's On to the Next One it was a big song a couple years ago i'm sure people are familiar with it had a really cryptic music video and you break it down in a way that shows he's talking about the changing and the ages of the zodiac can you tell us a little bit about that?

13:04 Well yeah, if you look at that video. First of all that was the first music video released in the year 2010 he released it right at midnight to ensure that it would be just that and if you really look at the video... If you just look at it for entertainment purposes It seemingly has nothing to do with the lyrics You know? This is black-and-white videos got some pretty cool clips and some strange imagery and symbolism in there, and it doesn't have anything to do with the song. But if you understand this symbolism that we're discussing, it makes all the sense of the world. Onto The Next One means on from one age to the other. And I think he makes it pretty clear or at least the director makes it pretty clear in a video

13:53 Yeah, yeah. I agree with you it like there's a lot of stuff in there and the lyrics that you point out It definitely makes sense. Yeah, I mean if you even if you look at the Bible If you look at the Bible is chock-full of astrological references You know, when Jesus tells his disciples to go to the house and follow the man with a pitcher of water he's basically telling them once you leave the age of Pisces you're going into the age of Aquarius. Because as we know Aquarius is personified by a man with a pitcher of water

14:30 And of course, lately more of this has been coming out on YouTube videos and there was the documentary I'm talking about where they talked about the Zodiac and its relation to the biblical stories. The first zeitgeist? Zionist, that's it. Yeah and you know so more and more people are starting to get in on this knowledge but if you look at the Bible is just chock full of astrological references It's just that of course these were translated from Greek

15:06 and Latin, you know so some of the words might not mean the same to us in today's English. You know so we just if your a literalist and take the bible literally then it is just a bunch of words that don't make sense together. I just like your take on these things, man. Because so many of these YouTube researchers that are putting out these analysis of music videos they all are just focusing on that it's anti-Christian and a lot of it is but then they label it as Satanism and their really dealing with the first layer of many because there stuck from that Christian perspective which is more mental programming So when you take it out of the Christian context I think you get a much better understanding

15:53 Yeah, yeah. When you're coming from the Christian perspective or any religious perspective it's so much... You're already coming in with the us versus them mentality So it's easy just to say well that's Satanism that's bad That's bad but they never explain why it's bad like we take the pentagram for example That's this five-pointed star within a circle As we know, Anton LaVey used this for his Church of Satan symbolism and it's an old pagan sign. But if you look at the origin of the pentagram it's not scary at all! It represents the planet Venus in the five points that she makes as she travels through the night sky within a circle with the zodiac.

16:40 When you put it through the Christian scope, you can just call it Satanism. You don't have to explain the origin and why this symbol has been carried throughout the ages up until now. Just say, call it Satanism and that's it! Call it a day. I think that theorists who come from that angle are lost before they even start. I hear you, man. And i know you've also looked a lot into the Illuminati influence on rap culture and hip-hop culture and it's definitely super pervasive in that style of music but do you have any idea why it's so much in black culture? In terms of music and not necessarily in like rock or country? Yeah well if you look at hip hop okay

17:32 Just just the if you look at the the bars and the way rap, you know music is constructed It's constructed identical to nursery rhymes Nursery rhymes are the very first tools of teaching small children for a reason. You know, you teach them in, you know, bump up a bump up a bump because it penetrates the subconscious much easier okay? And if you look into magical lore and you look at witches incantations they were done in the same form and the chance and whatnot Hip hop goes directly to the subconscious much easier it's much easier to picture what the singer is saying. It is less complex than you know then a rock tune or even an R&B tune, so its great tool for programming and this why you see alot of

18:28 multinational corporations using this music in their advertisement because it sticks to the mind much easier. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I talked to Professor Griff once and he kind of alluded to that too It's weird the way music actually affects people and to think of it on that subconscious level... ...it's not something people do every day They don't really think about that but the people who are making the music, people who are behind-the-scenes they're definitely having that in mind when they put some of this stuff out Oh, absolutely. I mean music is the only thing that every single culture no matter how far you go back no matter where they were on the planet what race they were what language they spoke The one thing they all had in common was music

19:14 Music is one of the first languages that infants understand. They've done tests with infants where they would play a certain piece of classical music while the child was in the womb, you know? They would put their headphones directly up to the stomach of the mother then they would bring these children back six months later after they were born hook their brains up to the neural imaging machine and then play certain music for the child. But when they played the one complex classical piece that they were exposed to while they were in the womb, their brains light up and the very same parts of the brains that light up are the same parts of the brain that we use for speech and understanding speech

20:01 They took it a step further with these little six-month infants, and they put a bad note in this complex piece of classical music. And the brain according to the brains of the infant he or she was still able to recognize that that wasn't supposed to happen you know so music is intimately connected to human growth and development especially when it comes to language and therefore communication Yeah man, and in terms of programming using music another place you'll see that is the movie A Clockwork Orange which is a Stanley Kubrick movie. Which I did have a couple questions about him because in the Jupiter material you talk about 2001 A Space Odyssey and I've had a couple guests who've done some super interesting work with Stanley Kubrick and his disclosure through his films and his secret society connections but I had never heard

20:58 being written at the same time and in the movie they're trying to get to Jupiter but in the book they're trying to get to Saturn and we see it again, the weird dual homage to these two planets. Yeah, absolutely. You'll see that again and again when you look for it whether you're looking at the Bible or whether you're looking at Greek Egyptian or Roman mythology you'll see these same planets coming up and again if you look into the ancient Hebrew religion originally their god was called El

21:35 the personification of the planet Saturn. And it wasn't until Rome got a hold of all this, whose top god was Jupiter that they switched it and made Saturn Satan, the devil, and Jupiter is the Heavenly Father that many still worship today Yeah, and when you think of Saturn as L and you get the elite it's only makes sense that the elites are following L or Saturn. Absolutely, even if you when you look at the Holy Bible and you look at all of the names of the archangels and many names of the important players in a Bible they all have the L in it whether we're talking about the angel Michael whether we're talking is Sikiel what were talking as real You know that there's the L is in there. And this is a representation of followers of Saturn who the original Hebrew people

22:39 were a worship result. Yeah, it's trippy how it all flipped like that and another interesting point I've heard you make that I hadn't thought much of before is in terms of movie programming or predictive programming A huge number of movies in the 90s early 2000 had black presidents And the weird thing to start thinking about was they were predictively programming us getting us ready to accept a black president I thought that was pretty interesting man Oh, absolutely. Yeah yeah and if you watch films today you'll still see it like I won't be surprised if we have a zombie outbreak in the next 10 years. Yeah dude honestly exactly another weird element to that is I live here in San Diego and a nearby military base who was all over the news awhile ago all over the internet that they actually did

23:31 training exercise where soldiers were shooting zombies and everybody was like why you know Why are you making that simulation? That makes no sense And then when you look at the larger conspiracy world where they talk about false flag attacks Almost everyone that's happened in modern times is going on with a live drill. So then you're like wow, that is kind of scary Why are you doing drills with zombies? What are you working on? You know, like I said. I won't be surprised if in the next few years there's some kind of virus or something pops up that just gives zombie-like effects to the afflicted and you know hopefully it won't be like the movies where their arms are falling off and they're just want your brains but

24:16 Again, I wouldn't be surprised if something goes down because they're investing way too much money and time into it And it could just be a trend. You know we see trends but Hollywood doesn't do much without some kind of motive exactly Yeah, and you got to try to extrapolate what they're doing and try to piece together and try to figure out where they're going That's kind of the fun really of diving into all this material at least to me is trying to extrapolate You know some future trend But with the black president thing, I just thought that was really eye-opening. It really suggests that the planning was almost decades before it actually happened which is kind of a scary revelation

24:58 Well, absolutely. I mean we they already know who the president is and they know who the president's going to be in 2040 already. He's in high school right now he's getting ready you know? Obama didn't just come out of the woodworks this guy has documented to be blood related to the Bush family blood related to Kennedy blood related...I mean he's part of the bloodline The elections are just a ritual to gauge where the public mindset is at. Now, I do want to add on to something you asked me earlier and we got broken up. You asked me about hip-hop and why it would be used the way it is by The Elite? As I mentioned, hip hop is a very dynamic form of music that goes directly to the subconscious and it's very easy to program young impressionable mind through it

25:57 Now, one of the biggest fears of the United States government has always been an uprising by its black citizens because of the obvious history and injustices that have been done to people of color in this country. We saw this in the 1960s where people were just tired of it. Black people were tired and you had groups like the Black Panthers and the Symbionese Liberation Army coming up against the government, ready to take up arms and fight. At the same time that the Black Panthers were highly organized throughout the country, you had two street gangs Bloods and Crips who are just small little street gangs in Los Angeles

26:44 Yet, the FBI was able to quell a group as organized as the Black Panthers but they weren't able to stop these two street gangs that have since spread the world over. In the 1990s—1992 is a matter of fact— Hip hop was different before that. You know, hip hop you know there was some gangster rap in there but there were some party rapping in their but a large majority of the most popular hip-hop at the time was very conscious and this way you had your public enemy Professor Griffin his guys all you had groups like X clan you have groups like Paris rappers like Paris and they were on this are basically a resurgence up to 1960's black power era

27:31 You know, so I was a kid at this time. So I was very influenced by this. I had my Africa medallion and you know black power, you know this that and the other. And one thing that the rappers had always been warning the establishment about was an uprising like listen we're gonna get tired of this shit sooner or later and we're gonna tear this motherfucker apart. And again, this has always been a fear for the federal government. The FBI was created solely to bring down Marcus Garvey Only after that did they start going after other foreigners like the Italians and the Irish. So in the 1990s, you have this resurgence of this black power and they're using music to do this so back in the 60's at least if you weren't in the vicinity of Malcolm X's microphone The government didn't have to worry about you hearing his message

28:22 But now you have this music through a tape. A kid in North Dakota can get a message from a Black Power rapper from New York, you know? So it became of real concern for the federal government and the King riots of 1992 April 29th where they just destroyed Los Angeles suddenly you had Bloods and Crips coming together You know, all over. I mean even in Las Vegas where i live Bloods and Crips were coming together saying you know what we have a common enemy What are we fighting for? This scared the shit out of somebody up there because you'll recognize that is the same year That Death Row Records got its start Snoop Dogg came out of nowhere And hip-hop has never come back since it has stayed in this gangster era ever since and there's a reason

29:16 You know, the black power album today is not going to sell. Any positive message is not gonna sell and this is problematic. Well you know it's kind of funny you bring that up because my girlfriend and I we both theorize and speculate about these kind of things because you know I do the show like this. And we got the new song Happy coming out it's like the biggest song everywhere Pharrell is happy and i think about programming, and I'm like with all the work you've done to make rap about murder and titties and drugs why are you letting out a song like Happy? Because it seems so positive

30:02 Absolutely, because he's rich. Well that fair You know I had a friend who said the exact same thing you just said Yeah It was like how is he...you know He got rich making money with the clips and all this gangster stuff How is he gonna make this song? But we gotta look at the fact that people change People mature Now what we need to sit back and wait And see Is what he's gonna do afterwards You know, is he gonna go right back to that gangster stuff? Is he gonna be producing more of this stuff or has he really changed it you know we could just be witnessing the change that he's going through for the better. So let's have to wait and see. Yeah I mean i look at kind from a perspective of gatekeepers you know the real people who are pulling the puppet strings and its like

30:51 It's interesting that they would allow that to become so popular, to be in all their corporate commercials. To be on Jimmy Fallon one night and then Jimmy Kimmel the next night and they're just throwing it everywhere... And it's like is something changing? Are there some elites back there who actually want a program positivity I mean as far out as that seems it makes me slightly hopeful! Well, no. I mean...I doubt that. I really doubt that! You know? That's too optimistic Yeah, I think it would be more of a pacification method you know like regardless of all the horrible shit we're doing to you how the banks are fucking you over for how The uh..you know with all these wars going on your happy just be happy It goes back to that THX 1138 Be Happy! You Know They're there and committing you Just shut up and be happy

31:43 Yeah, I agree with you there and uh i'm looking something up real quick because it was interesting that I was listening to you break down onto the next one. And I love doing this kind of thing! I would like to get in the forefront of trying to decode some of this music because it's just a fun puzzle and I was like what was Jay-Z's last song? Then I'm thinking of that Holy Grail song when Justin Timberlake does the intro to that song thinking of happy as a pacifier because he says you take the clothes off my back and I let you. You steal the food right out of my mouth and i watch you eat it, I still don't know why why love you so much! And then in the background there's a really strange like a really weird voice that says thanks for warning me thanks for warning me and then it says uh you curse my name

32:35 in spite and put me to shame, hang my laundry in the streets dirty or clean give it up for fame but I still don't know why why. I love you so much." And that is almost like Justin Timberlake talking from the perspective of a common person and he's like, I know I'm getting abused but I still love you, I still look to you for help, I still helped Jay-Z sell 1 million records even though he doesn't give a fuck about me Absolutely. I mean, you know he's not singing about a girl. Right right. The song is called Holy Grail. Jay is on some deeper shit like...I still haven't figured that dude all the way out but he's definitely plugged into something a little bit deeper than your average rapper and I think it makes it pretty clear

33:28 You mentioned Death Row Records earlier, and I was talking to our mutual friend Rob from Conspiracy HQ. He told me that he had to ask you about Tupac because I wasn't really big into hip-hop or rap during the time of Biggie and Tupac but obviously a lot people have given their own conspiratorial take on their deaths And some people of course say that Tupac is still alive. I mean, what's your take on that? You know you were kind of going in that direction That seems to be where hip-hop and rap changed to the gangster stuff Is that related to Tupac's death? Oh absolutely! That same year 1992 was the year a film named Juice was released

34:04 And Tupac, as we know played Roland Bishop who was the villain. And a lot of young black men took to him because first of all, we've seen all the girls at the movie theater going oh my God he's so fine and he was just this bad boy. He was like I don't give a fuck that was his whole thing right? And so a lot of boys took to that now Tupac As you know Was from- he has an interesting history His mother uh was a Black Panther And in fact, I believe he was delivered in prison if I'm not mistaken. I know she was pregnant in prison with him and his stepfather was also a Black Panther so you can imagine the type of pride he must have had growing up knowing that his parents were part of something

34:51 It's such an important piece of African-American history. Now, of course his mother later on got hooked on drugs and so he didn't have the happiest childhood but this would show why there is a dichotomy in his music when it comes to women On one song he'd be telling girls to keep their heads up And then on the next song he's calling them bitches and telling them suck his dick I hope i can cuss here Absolutely! That explains that dichotomy because that's the mother influence that he grew up with. There's no telling what he saw his mother do while she was high on crack Anyway, he decides to become a rapper He was a rapper before he was in the film Juice You know, he started touring with Digital Underground as a backup dancer believe it or not He got his first verse on one of their tracks and he decided to pursue his own career Now at the same time Interscope Records was a brand new startup

35:48 Interestingly, started up by... I cannot remember this guy's first name but he is heir to the Marshall Fields Illuminati bloodline. You know, Marshall Stores? Ted Fields! That's his name. Ted Fields. These guys go way back with JPMorgan and that right? So anyway they decided they wanted to get into the music industry And so, you know they wanted to get in break into the rap game So their first rapper that they tried was one Mark Wahlberg at the time. It was known as Marky mark He's they were like, you know what we're gonna we're gonna capitalize on this vanilla ice thing We're gonna break out the first hardcore white Rapper that people are going to take You know serious because what Wahlberg has some problems when he was a kid? You know I mean did he was he was a thug around Boston, you know, but The hip-hop community wasn't ready to believe in him

36:44 So they needed something else. That's when they got Tupac. Of course, Tupac got caught up in some trouble. He was shot—he had nothing to do with Death Row Records in the beginning he was a solo artist And Death Row Records were trying to get him. They had Dr Dre, they had D.O.C., they had all these other luminaries in the gangster rap world and you have this guy Tupac who was the perfect package. He's good looking, the women loved him he had the street credibility, he was crazy... They wanted him but he wasn't ready to go over there. He was still doing his thing in New York and on the West Coast solo

37:26 Benny ends up getting shot. Benny ends up getting convicted And somehow, Suge Knight is able to go spring him out of prison like nothing. You know? I mean how many people do you know that just goes spring somebody out of prison but that was reportedly only on the condition that he came and signed to death row soon as he gets out of prison He creates All Eyes On Me which goes quadruple platinum and he's locked in But you'll notice, all eyes on me. Because if you listen to Tupac's earlier stuff when he was doing his solo thing although there was a gangster vibe in there He had a lot of black empowerment songs. He had a lot of female empowerment songs Suddenly if you listened to his work at Death Row There's none of that it's all gangsta now He would slip little seeds in there where you could tell that this guy You know is intelligence was much higher than many of his peers but

38:28 There wasn't too much of that black empowerment. In fact, there wasn't any black empowerment and it wasn't too much uplifting stuff for young women in there It was all gangster. It was all women are bitches this that and the other I don't know the true story but some say that Pac was ready to leave He owed Death Row one more album And he was gonna go do his own thing That's when he was murdered Yeah it has to be about money Always is Yeah, you know and I live in Vegas so even if you look at the actual murder it doesn't make sense. First of all this happened on fight night a Mike Tyson fight night this was Tyson's first fight when he got out of prison So the whole world was watching his thing Vegas was packed Tupac was driving down

39:19 Flamingo Avenue heading towards Shug's Club 662. They stopped at a light on Colborne Flamingo, which is a block away from the strip. It wasn't that late so there still had to be tons of people in the area just walking around cruising driving and reportedly they stopped at a light he had you know they were at the front of a seven car entourage or something like that A carload of girls pull up and distract them. They start talking to them, and they're flirting. Suddenly this white Cadillac pulls up the gunman get out and starts shooting no one ever mentions this car load of girls. No one's ever questioned him. No one's ever talked to him should reportedly

40:08 You know, out of fear drives off he turns off and he's trying to get popped to the hospital but his car is all shot up so he drives back to the Las Vegas strip. Now, should would know better than anybody had he just kept straight where his club was right across the street from his club right across the street and down block a little bit there's a hospital right there Why not take Pac there? Why would you try to go get back on the freeway to go to UMC when you know, you're gonna deal with traffic because it's fight night. There are so many things wrong with this story that is just crazy but I do believe Pac is dead and I don't believe he's living in Cuba or nothing like that. I do believe he's dead

40:49 Yeah, it's so much easier just to kill someone. But in such a bold fashion getting out of the car like crazy Scorsese movie and just lighten up a car? He fits right into what I was talking about again he was you know he's from a family of Black Panthers if you listen to his solo music before he joined Death Row he had a lot of black empowerment songs a lot of fight the power songs The last thing they needed was him to go off on his own and use that platform to put more music out, you know? Because I think that's what he would have done. If Pac would've still been alive—I have no doubt he'd be an Academy Award-winning actor—he'd be a social activist

41:34 and his music would have changed. He would've went right back to his black empowerment music, and that is something that the federal government doesn't want. All right you can't have that but was anyone ever charged with this murder? Nope not at all. Another common theme with these high profile shootings of these high-profile killings of people's a lot of times some someone gets away or no one really goes to jail even uh, Even Kennedy. Uh, you know he was The guy who apparently killed him was then shot in custody the police It just seems like something you would do if you were from behind the scenes trying to cover up the whole situation You know it's weird we have cops out there for a reason they can't catch these biggest high profile murders Well is much easier when

42:26 when you're talking about a Tupac or Biggie because of their lyrics. Their lyrics reflected violent lifestyle, so the average person would look well hey they rapped about that stuff and obviously they were living that way so it's an inevitable end. So its much easier to sweep that under the rug no one is going to ask too many questions except for the hip hop fans and thats it but I'll give you another interesting coincidence Do you know who Tupac was dating at the time he was murdered? I don't. Okay, he was leaving the Luxor Hotel his girlfriend stayed behind and she said she would meet him at the club later Her name is Kadada Jones She is the daughter of Quincy Jones

43:11 Biggie. Do you know where Biggie was leaving the night he got shot? No He was leaving a Vibe magazine party, a magazine that was founded by one Quincy Jones Now I'm not saying that Quincy had anything to do with it. I'm just drawing the ironic conclusion Yeah yeah That is an interesting connection Is there anything else odd about Biggie's death? Do you think he was just another case similar to Tupac as he was going to be an enlightening empowering figure so they just capped him No, I don't know. You know there's so many conspiracy theories and this is another one of the reasons why Jupiter 3 has yet to be released because when we talk about these conspiracy theories we have to name drop people who are still alive and people who are still working There's so many strange coincidences involving

44:14 Pac and Biggie's deaths. And there are some pretty big players now, before I started doing my podcast, I was involved in the entertainment community. One of my mentors was actually one of the original founders of Death Row Records so I know a little bit more than your average person when it comes to that just sitting at this guy's house I would hear some stuff about some of the biggest artists in the world that I was like, no way. No way! And you know, I don't want to disclose them here because again these are people who were close to me and a lot of these people are still working they're still in the public eye and...I'll just say that Biggie died for different reasons than Pac did

45:05 All right. Yeah, you got to be careful man because another person who might have talked too much was Cat Williams You know It seemed like he got kind of eaten up by the Illuminati machine spit back out cuz in one of his big specials He was talking about going to like elite Hollywood parties and seeing famous male celebrities making out and shit And it seemed like they didn't like him talking that way and they ruined his reputation Oh absolutely yeah They took him out Because that I will testified to that, that I will tell you firsthand happens. When back in the 90s, I was a comic book artist. That's where I first started and I was interviewed for Source Magazine which at the time was the top hip hop magazine and I made friends with a few of the writers there now this mid-90s early to mid-90s one of the writers who is living in Chicago we kept up good rapport with each other

46:01 And he would tell me things about certain celebrities that I just wasn't buying. And, and I'll tell you one of the things he told me was that R Kelly had a pension for young girls. And I was like get out here! He's like yeah he does. He goes up to school and picks them up. He pays their families off You know? It was like no big deal So when...he also tells me about other big names in industry and stuff they're into. And i'm just like get outta here No way Of course this guy was in position to know but I just wasn't believing it And it wasn't until the R. Kelly story broke, you know where he had the sex tape and everything that I was like wow! You know how much of the other stuff did this guy tell me was true? So then years later when i entered the entertainment community a lot of the things this guy had told me and much more were absolutely validated so yeah Cat Williams

46:55 when you decide to join that machine, when you decide to walk the red carpet which represents the bloodline of secrecy. You have to take with it the secrecy. You have to keep those secrets to yourself and that's a violation that he broke I mean that's rule that he broke so yeah you won't be seeing much in him not on mainstream Yeah, it's so weird how it happens. I watched it happen and was a huge Cat Williams fan and big fan of stand-up comedy in general So to see his spiraling into madness It was a little weird yeah He is not the only one that has happened too That happened quite a few from Dave Chappelle Because when you are militant minded When you grow up

47:50 You know with parents similar to mine, you know who would always tell you like don't trust this Don't trust that and they would you know, you know point out the proven conspiracies in history. Uh, you already have that original programming so then when you try to go into the entertainment industry And you just see the hypocrisy and the sickness within is it's very hard to keep it to yourself It's very hard to deal with it When you see what's going on? you know, so That's why, you know the only people who make it there You better believe that they're shutting their mouth about a lot of stuff. All the people who make it there and stay there You know Michael Jackson he started breaking down towards the end so I had to get rid of him Oh absolutely yeah

48:41 Michael was getting ready to be back on top of the world again, right? And then you'd write I don't know if you've seen some of these interviews and somebody speeches he was given Before you know shortly before he passed but he was saying some pretty explosive things about a lot of people in the industry Mm-hmm. And so they were like yeah we gotta get rid of this guy Well that begs an interesting question because why are kill some and then just bury the careers of others because it seems like leaving a loose end. You know, I was a big Breaking Bad fan. I loved Mike the cleaner guy He didn't leave loose ends and for the Illuminati to just let Cat Williams still exist It's like you know now he's got nothing to lose Okay well if I was cat Williams I wouldn't worry about dying unless I was on the verge of making another comeback The first thing they will do

49:31 is they will destroy your character. That's what they did to Michael, if you look at the testimony against him you'll wonder why he even paid those people off like for the molestation allegations because they were so ridiculous, the claims are so ridiculous and the evidence was so flimsy He just paid them off because he was like I'm sick of dealing with this He didn't have anybody around him to tell him that's not a good idea, dude. So he went through it again and again. They tried to destroy him twice both of which he ducked then they destroyed his record career by not promoting his albums and whatnot hoping that he would just disappear go away in his drug haze but he is getting ready to do This Is It which would've been the biggest concert tour on the planet

50:25 and he would have been given the spotlight again. And they couldn't have that, you know? There's a reason why Dave Chappelle hasn't tried to come back, you know? In theory, Dave Chappelle can walk into any network and say hey listen I want to do a show And the network would be a fool not to take him. You know? But he doesn't do that, you know He's still doing stand-up here there and wherever but he's not doing any television or films and there is reason for that That's when he has us worried You know, so they try to destroy you first by saying that you're crazy or that your gay or that your home... Gay doesn't even work anymore. That's your home...that you're a child molester or whatever and if that fails Or if they just cannot find any dirt on you then they'll kill you. Mm-hmm. And you notice we go back to the uh We go back to the 60s

51:22 The reason why Martin Luther King outlived Malcolm X is because the FBI had dirt on Martin Luther King. Martin Luther King was a philanderer, he was cheating on his wife and they tried to blackmail him with it and you know this that and the other only then did they kill him when they seen they had nothing else on him. Malcolm was flawless like he had nothing on his record They made recordings, which you can find on YouTube of the FBI trying to turn him against the Nation of Islam once he left. And he just wouldn't give them anything so they said all right we just gotta kill him. So yeah if they'll try to destroy you reputation wise first and if they can do that then they'll kill you and if you really want to see it in writing look up the COINTELPRO documents

52:10 COINTELPRO as you know was an FBI move to bring down black leaders, like any black person who looked like that they were getting ready to lead this uprising that the FBI fears so much. There's a step-by-step tutorial on how you are to break him down and in there they have destroy his reputation say that he's homosexual say this, say that start fights between him and his crew And if all else fails just kill them, you know? So yeah Cat Williams don't have nothing to worry about unless he makes a big comeback

52:46 And Malcolm X has one of my favorite quotes of all time where he says if you're not careful the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing which is exactly what we see today. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we definitely see it in the black community One of our biggest problems is allowing our young people to embrace this music that they do. Because the music basically, you know they're seeing these rappers and they're seeing videos with all the girls and they see them in all the platinum chains in their cars so that's success! Any American person on the planet would see it as success if you have all these nice things and your surrounded by all this beauty

53:31 But when you have these rappers who say, hey I sold drugs. I shot people and went to prison for a minute then I get out and i'm a rapper these kids say hey that's the way that's the path this is cut though Yeah yeah they're like well I gotta kill some people and then I get the record deal because Then I got the credit 90% of them are gonna end up in prison or dead trying to get there You know so um our problem here now Is that we haven't embraced the beast In fact, if you speak out against it and talk about how terrible this music is they'll call you a sellout or something like that. But it's definitely being controlled somewhere and for some reason

54:18 It's interesting. I mean, I've definitely thought about it before when i was talking to Professor Griff that's why he is getting back out there and doing music you know? He's trying to be more enlightening to kind of turn the tide on this thing because we're like two decades into this kind of manipulation and yeah... What would your analysis on the current state of black culture are they seem to be waking up to this now this music has been given to people like Katy Perry and Lady Gaga which is weird well That again is another... Here's the thing about, okay if you look at popular music all forms of todays popular music most of it 90% was created right here in America with African American roots and this goes back to blues country gospel. You know all that right?

55:09 What we do as a people is, you know we're too flighty. We'll start something and make it popular and then just abandon it. You know we saw this with break dancing. Break dancing was a black enterprise at one time now. If you go to a break dance cypher its going to be mostly Asian and Latino kids We did the same thing with graffiti. We did the same thing with so many different art forms and we did it with rock and roll, like if you think of rock, you don't think of Chuck Berry and Little Richard and these guys who created the art form. You'd think of big hair 80s bands. You'd think of tools or something like that because black people in this country they abandon stuff. They create stuff

55:54 They'll enjoy it and then they get tired of it, and they ban it. Then they complain when white people start doing it. And they say oh are you trying to steal our culture? It's like no, you gave it away! Right now we are in the process of giving away R&B We're giving away R&B and this is proof positive if you just look at The Last Billboard Awards No black artist won You know Justin Timberlake won the top award I believe Robin Thicke uh... justin bieber may have even one month uh... and the only black performer they had up there was for real because he's the only one who made an r&b song that was happy uh... and michael jackson who's dead you know right and we're in a process of giving away right now we don't read recognize it because most of our are on the artist they'll run around trying to be like rappers got chris brown easily could have

56:48 taking the throne from Michael Jackson, you know once Michael Jackson passed because he has the talent. He can dance and do all that but he's too busy running around here trying to be a crip or blood whatever he is This whole thug thing is like sexy now R&B music is supposed to make women feel good about themselves R&B artists are supposed to represent the good guys that the girl doesn't mind bringing home to her father. Think of Tim and all these other things that were out when I grew up, but now these black R&B artists a lot of them are talking to these girls like they're whores. Take off your clothes and bend over, I'm going smack it, smack it. That's not R&B, that's hip-hop harmonized

57:34 You know, whereas you have Robin Thicke. You have Justin Timberlake These guys are really still singing songs about making women feel good about themselves and in a couple of years 10 years R&B is gonna be like rock and roll You know? Yeah, so that's what you're seeing going on right now We were just kind of abandoning our art forms. And this is not to say that no white person should ever rap or do sing R&B, I'm just saying we shouldn't just give it up that quickly It's like at least, you know stay a part of it. You know But that yeah, that's what you're seeing right now Hey this has been a fascinating conversation and we've definitely strayed from The material where I plan to go is just out the window I thought we were gonna talk about owl symbolism and Bohemian Grove and Godess Columbia Hey there's always next time. I thought this was great man

58:29 Cool, cool. Yeah, you can check me out at haterazzi.com. Haterazzi spelled just like paparazzi except with a hater instead of popper I'm a comedian man and I make social commentary especially as it relates to the African American community You're not always going to like everything you hear Very controversial, I say the things that people think are afraid to say And that's about it, man. Check me out at haterazzi.com I do get a little conspiratorial too a lot so you guys check that out Jupiter parts one and two are available at haterazzi.com They're also available at conspiracyhq.com So, you know check them out awesome well mr. Gates It's been a goddamn pleasure Hopefully we can do it again and when that jupiter in part 3 comes out You got to let me know absolutely well, you know, I don't know if I'm gonna do what much try a lot of name-dropping man

59:34 Right. Yeah, that's where it gets scary Absolutely Alright man, well here's hoping and take care of yourself. Thanks a lot Mr. Carter, we appreciate it man! There we have it folks an hour with Mr Gates another fun episode at THC And I also want to mention that today July 1st is the soft launch of our big new venture conspiracyHQ.com where Rob Davin Freeman Fly Fredericks Mark Howitt and myself are trying to literally create the conspiracy headquarters with the best fringe media in the business If you like THC, I'm sure you're gonna like some of the stuff we got popping off over at that super slick and sexy website. So check out conspiracyhq.com Contribute to The Money Bomb if you can! I love you guys Please share the show with your friends if you could do me that kindness And I'll see you in five days with another phenomenal show cause that's just what happens here... I've done my part for the week Your move Jay-Z YOUR FUCKING MOVE You take the clothes off my back and I let you

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