Steven Snider AKA Recluse | A Stanley Kubrick Odyssey: Film Symbolism, & Hollywood Scandal

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06:24 Serenity Now, people. From the Sunshine State I'm Greg Carlwood and we know that the entertainment industry is a dark and unsettling place beneath the bright smiles and seductive showmanship with many young naive hopefuls being sold a life of stardom that often can unknowingly come at the steep cost of one's humanity And it seems like anyone wading into the Hollywood waters is quite quickly sinking into a sea of sexual abuse, ideological indoctrination, entrapment and blackmail, intelligence agencies, egomaniacs, plastic surgery, drugs and oftentimes even death. So it's only natural to wonder about the life and times of certain individuals who made their careers in such a nasty place. And when you think about legendary directors who are not only highly respected in a conventional sense, but are also steeped in esoteric intrigue symbolic decoding and conspiratorial madness there is only one at the apex of that pyramid The late great Stanley Kubrick

07:20 And rightfully so when his films cover subject matters such as rogue AIs, elite sex cults the military-industrial complex, the horrors of war psychological conditioning behavioral science propaganda possession pedophilia and even MKUltra Of course researchers have claimed everything from the symbolism in his work being some grand revealing of the inner workings of The Big Machine, to your standard insider gloating and we can't forget the persistent idea that is filmmaking expertise was even tapped to pull off the moon landing hoax. Well, wouldn't you know it? Our old friend Stephen Snyder aka Recluse of the VicepView blog and great books like Strange Tales of the Parapolitical Postwar Nazis Mercenaries Another Secret History A Special Relationship Trump Epstein and The Secret History Of The Anglo-American Establishment And The Art The Secret History Of Psywar Conspiratainment In The Shattering Of Reality

08:14 has turned his attention to this enigmatic maker of that sweet 8mm magic in his newest deep dive titled The Minotaur, A Stanley Kubrick Odyssey. Where he investigates and tests the authenticity of all the claims of your typical crypto-Kubrologists and adds in many things they've missed He's been here five times before and you know it's gonna be a good one again. The great parapolitics parser, deep state scholar and wicked web detangler! The man I've come to call Stephen the Spider Snyder recluse my man how the hell are ya? It's great to be back thank you very much for having me here sir. Of course i really love the book you cast out on some things that yes they do just make me sad but you reveal so much that really hasn't been talked about before and you always seem to be juggling a couple projects at once why turn your attention to stanley kubrick as you have,

09:09 Well i've been compiling a lot of research for years related to stanley cubric and when i was working on what is grown into being the trilogy of the art books. I had started to correspond with jason horsey who written his own cubric book, can i think i have brought up my theories about cubrick possibly referencing some matics in two thousand one i turned over my research to jason which had ended up turning up in his Kubrick book. So I was intrigued to see where he get going with some of this stuff, so i went and got a copy of his book eventually read it and... ...I was really impressed! I honestly went in not wanting to like Jason's book because you probably are aware of this for those of you not aware of this Jason Horsley

09:57 does not like stanley cubrick to put it mildly i don't think i do anymore either and your book did that to me which is the irony here, so jason definitely would consider cubrick to be the most overrated director of all times but anyway cubric on kind of the opposite camp he's my all time favorite director but i was really impressed with jason spoke. i thought that he had managed quite a few with some of the research and there is a set before there's a lot of material i have been compiling for quite some time and i felt like. I had enough to where it would enhance and really expand upon things jason was trying to do what the cubicle on

10:39 And then on top of that i mean again just being a stanley cubrick fan i thought that. The other should at least be one decent pair political book out there looking at cubrick's life and career was actually written by somebody who liked his films the other reason for doing it yes and i would say for a long time i like this film, And i was just unsure about the man himself obviously you throw a lot of shade at the crypto. Who brought adjusts and the conspiracy culture in the way, His work is kinda taken and yeah there's this perception somewhat that eyes wide shut was great revealing and then he was killed for it any film the moon landing anyone to tell us in the shining. And this picture is painted of this guy who has kind of roped into being on the inside you really just wanted to make his art and,

11:34 He was shackled to these elite circles but trying desperately to see the knowledge to the rest of us to figure out and that is kinda perception and. From that perspective i have always kind of like to break because i can about into that but his work aside now i don't really like the man all that much because if your book i think it's pretty clear that he was, Friendly very friendly with some of the nastiest people maybe didn't pay him to any extreme nasty nest but if they say that you're an amalgamation of your five closest friends those are the five people i might choose when. Trying to make a profile for myself ironically i don't need to do that subconsciously or not but that extreme nasty this thing i can help be reminded about his probation officer in a clockwork orange you said that,

12:28 It was quite a bit of nastiness last night, Alex. Some extreme nastiness! It's probably rolling around in my psyche now because I've been thinking about Kubrick all week but let's talk about the crypto-Kubrologist and the conspiracy tropes associated with him what would you say is your general assessment of the things that you've read and heard through the years about Kubrick that conspiracy theorists might have heard as well? And just your take Well, obviously the big thing is the moon landing. It seems like almost every conspiracy theory related to Stanley Kubrick in some way or form goes back to the moon landing eventually and truth be told I was never really that impressed with the moon landing allegations

13:17 Many years ago for my blog, VizUp I think it was like around 2013-2014 this was the first time i had really written anything at length on Kubrick and specifically it related to Dr. Strangelove and just from looking at that one film it really became obvious to me that there's a lot of stuff that is being overlooked and kinda going forward here as I started working on this particular project It was just staggering really how much stuff had been missed by people because they were so fixated on the moon landing. And I think there's probably no better example than that, then Barry Lyndon just because everything about the making of that film with the production is just absolutely insane and it is almost never referenced at all outside of the purported cameras that Kubrick was given by NASA to a film by Candlelight So... It just seemed to me that there was a massive amount

14:13 Mr action that have been employed in terms of cubers legacy and it's a question of where is this misdirection coming from. Because obviously there's a lot that they do not want us looking at so that we are fixating on the moon landing allegations, right and talk about that you're pretty clear to say look i'm not making a judgment call on the moon landing being filmed on soundstage or be genuine You're focused on was Kubrick involved in such a situation and you don't find much evidence that he was talked to us about the major. Bullet points that the people give that this was the case where this rumor started really because obviously people say well the budget doubled and then your like well, the budget doubling on a kubrick film is kinda standard that's not really all that weird it doesn't suggest as new explosive budget

15:08 And also there's things about his career trajectory that you think if he did such a favor for nasa and was so connected. That you would have had an easier time with subsequent films but these are the things that make you skeptical of this claim talk to us about where it came from and why you just don't think that that's legitimate climb, will it goes back to probably around nineteen seventy six what the publication of the first book that revolved around the potential faking in the moon landing was written by a guy called bill casing and i believe it was called we never went to the moon. The thirty billion dollar nasa's window or something to that effect

15:49 So it was a really interesting work, especially for the time and from the beginning Kubrick was linked to the possibility of a faked moon landing. However it's important to emphasize that Kaysing never actually claimed that Kubrick was the one who filmed the footage he simply argued that 2001 had been used as sort of prototype for how the moon landing potentially be staged and you're gonna saying there is no evidence for this was the fact that the budget for two thousand one double during the course of filming and that's nasa was actively helping cubrick with film.

16:26 And on the surface that does seem a little sketchy but again cubrick frequently had movies that went out of control budget wise really going back to his first movie fear and desire. The movie that you would make is i just said before very linden in mid seventies i think that it started originally the budget like four million eventually go up to eleven billion so, in that sense there was an even greater increase in funding for Barry Lyndon when it was in production than there was for 2001. And then also, the use of NASA is possibly overblown because Kubrick consulted with experts and every single thing that he ever made with Dr. Strangelove. He consulted with a lot of national security types for his Napoleon project that was never realized to consult with a lot of Napoleonic scholars. In fact, he hired an entire staff

17:17 to help him with his research, discovered Europe to try and find costume drama weapons just props all kinds of things that made it back to the Napoleonic era. He did the same thing with Barry Lyndon and then obviously when you get into something like Full Metal Jacket there was a tremendous amount of research done in trying to recreate Vietnam conflict basic training at Marine Corps he He was just excessive about getting these details as accurate as humanly possible, and he frequently succeeded in spades in that regard. So that he would have NASA there is not surprising and is totally consistent with how he operated in making his films, as well as the tremendous amount of research that went into doing all these projects. There are some interesting comments that have been made I think one specifically was NASA mentioning something to the effect that they were curious as to how the technologies they were developing would appear in a cinematic format

18:20 I really have no idea why NASA would be concerned with something like that. But nonetheless, there's nothing to really indicate that they were actually working with Kubrick directly and trying to engage in some kind of nefarious project. And it becomes even more difficult depending on Kubrick being tied to directing some kind of fake moon landing footage at all when you really look at the voluminous amount of records that he left behind for this point in time There have already been other Kubrick researchers that have managed to reconstruct his activities on almost a day-by-day basis when he was making 2001, and his movements after the film came out especially when he was in the process of putting together his Never Realized Napoleon project also been extensively detailed. And again just assuming for the sake of argument he did film The Moon Landing

19:14 Okay, maybe he doesn't do this the way he would have made a normal movie that he was doing where? The filming goes on for six months or year something does 80 takes and all this other stuff So okay. That's off the table But nonetheless is not something that he could just film in a weekend You know with a couple of beers and few guys hanging out there helping him I mean the special effects at that era would have required a lot of work to set up this other kind of stuff so This is kind of like one of the most elementary problems i find that people looking into this make it so they never really sit down and try to think. When exactly? Where is the time frame that Kubrick would have been in to film this footage, because if you go back and look at the record and the notes that he left all this other stuff it just doesn't jump out to you. There's really almost no time frame between when 2001 started and when The Moon Landing supposedly happened where you could point to and say well here's a couple of weeks were Kubrick his movements aren't really documented. He's in an area where there was

20:16 There was a studio that he could have used to film this stuff. There just isn't really a great instance of this, so it becomes very problematic to establish any kind of direct link to where Kubrick would have actively been engaged in filming this and then the whole thing with Bill Kaysing becomes really interesting when you consider a person who I believe would've been one of his neighbors during the 70's And that was Mae Brussel, the celebrated conspiracy titan. She was one of the earliest radio personalities to engage in a parapolitical show. She's a really interesting figure. She got her start essentially pushing a lot of JFK assassination stuff and the person who backed her was Paul Krasner, the founder of The Realist.

21:06 has an insane amount of connections. He worked for Larry Flint, he was a founder of the Yippies, he was tied in with the Discordians through Robert Anton Wilson, counterculture icon of the highest order if you will so Krasner's the guy who really helps get May Brussels radio show off the ground and they would continue to be friends throughout this whole time frame. Krasner would help her with some of her investigations such as those relating to Charles Manson and And one of the really interesting things that I found when I was researching Kubrick is that he was a huge fan of The Realist going all the way back to late 1950's. This is when this would have been quite an obscure publication, it has always been an obscure publication and more of a cult following if you will but certainly in the 1950's after he had just founded this he probably only had several hundred readers

22:02 And Kubrick remained a big fan of the realist at least up through the 1960s and it had a tremendous influence on him, specifically in terms of humor and Doctor Strangelove. My understanding is that one point he had considered hiring Lenny Bruce, the famous comedian who was good friend Paul Krasner's to actually write the screenplay with them. Bruce declined so that was when they brought in Terry Southern who was another friend of Krasners' Another guy who was tied into the whole milieu around the realists and Kubrick was still into the realist by the time that he's doing 2001 a space odyssey so I have to think that there is a very, very strong trance that Krasner knew Kubrick was a reader of his if not from the subscriptions going back to the late 50s almost surely from Terry Southern or somebody like that. So

22:54 You have bill casing who's made brussels neighbor casing later gets to go on may brussels show during the nineteen seventies talks about the moon landing hoaxes he specifically talks about cuba. When is all in the show so part of me has really started to wonder if, Krasner was possibly pushing this as a way to rib Kubrick, who he knew was a reader of The Realist and quite possibly was aware of May Brussell as well. Or maybe even the possibility that Kubrick himself might have been the one pushing Krasner to try and put out this narrative through Brussell which some people might think is insane but A, Stanley Kubrick was a megalomaniac

23:42 Stanley Kubrick wanted his films to be perceived as something other than a normal movie. A Stanley Kubrick film was not just a movie, it was an event! It was something that you were supposed to tell your children about what you were doing the first time you saw the Stanley Kubrick film. It was supposed to be that so by linking himself to faking the moon landing he is He is overtly setting himself up on a pedestal above a normal director if he did in fact engage in this and this is wholly consistent with Kubrick's personality, and it's consistent with his sense of humor which he definitely did have a pretty raunchy sense that a lot of people overlook. Yes yes that's a great summary of the moon hoax claims

24:28 Though you do say that in fairness to the moon hoax proponents Kubrick's 2001 co-writer Arthur C. Clarke met with NASA officials during 1965 possibly leading to a team of NASA scientists visiting, the 2001 set in fall that year they were impressed enough to dub Kubrick offices NASA East 2001 has become a speculative space program enabling NASA to test their design ideas in the visual medium of cinema. Why exactly NASA would want to gauge how their designs appear cinematically, as you said is a mystery but hardly evidence of Kubrick conspiring with them it does raise a possibility rarely aired however that Kubrick suspected NASA had stolen his 2001 work

25:14 to fake the moon landing and i think that's interesting and it is more indicative of how these operations go they just say hey I just want to check things out. And really they're mining for information technology, then they're going to do their own thing on the side and not necessarily involve everyone top-to-bottom so there is hope in that little bit but in the interest of not having this all be about Debunking the moon landing association i wanted to go to. The connections that i kind of mentioned earlier this is where i thought you added a lot of new context when it comes to kubrick and what should be the conspiracies around him where are they spotlight should maybe shift away from me provocative moon landing in more into who has hollywood friends were on the unsavory connections that bothered me a little bit from roman polanski,

26:10 Right on down, but talk to us about some of his close friendships within Hollywood. Well I think you really have to go back to his original production partner well he wasn't his original production partner but he was the guy that Kubrick was making films with fairly early in his career and thats James B Harris they had hooked up a little after Kubrick had done Killers Kiss They did The Killing Paths Of Glory together Lolita And then also harris had been involved in the early development of doctor strange love as well so he was a really influential figure and cubrics earlier career. Interesting guy he had served in the army signals core,

26:54 During korea which he had credited with getting a lot of his filmmaking experience admit when it's high school friends out like singer who was another director. Another guy with an interesting background as well why they were in the army signal together, But anyway, Harris he came from a wealthy family. He had already become engaged in producing television by the time he met Stanley Kubrick and in fact one of the earliest shows that he had done that he was successful with was The Adventures Of Superman if I'm not mistaken That was the first cinematic depiction of Superman they made that Ben Affleck movie about that about back in the noughts because the original actor who played superman committed suicide so

27:38 Kind of from the beginning an interesting thing with all that paris was in partnership with his father and interestingly enough they had managed to distribution deal where they were getting a lot of these films from soviet union to release in the united states. So bad in itself kind of raises some interesting possibilities with that because i mean any kinda business dealing directly with the soviet regime what if at least been being eyeballed a little bit by the US intelligence community to put it mildly during this era which is the nineteen fifties but. When you start getting into some of the darkness with cubric and hollywood circles that he was in there was maybe some indications of that,

28:23 because of some of the people he knew in the nineteen fifties one of them was i think it's samson de briere or something like that who was this self proclaimed hollywood which. A lot of curious people made the scene at his apartment during this time is what about some included people like james dean, vampire jack nicholson new ham can i do him So he was sort of one of these early kind-of occulted figures in the Hollywood scene during the Cold War era, and this was a guy that Kubrick had also occasionally frequented with. But the stuff with Harris really took things to a new level

29:02 And this goes into the production of Lolita where they had, of course slightly changed the script. They had cast Sue Lyons as the title character. She was 15 years old during the production and as The Hollywood Gossip columns at the time frankly not even tried to cover up she became engaged in an affair with Harris. Harris was 39 so a bit of May-December thing to put it mildly I believe they were only actually able to start the relationship openly because they were filming the movie in the UK. I think The Age of Consent was a little lower back in that time frame, but it does seem to have not been entirely consensual, to put it mildly after Sue Loynes died...I think it was 2016-2017 her

29:53 old friend michelle phillips of the moms and popos she had known since she was a teenager maybe even earlier than that she came out and said that the relationship. Who wanted to have with james b harris absolutely ruined her life, So that was very striking to me and it was even more bizarre when I started looking into the relationship that Sue Lyons had with Michelle Phillips. Because they were part of a trinity of these girls who are hanging out in San Francisco and LA, and the third member this group was Tamara Hodel

30:31 who was the daughter of George Hedel, a figure who in recent years has become a very popular suspect as the murderer of Elizabeth Short alias The Black Dahlia. George Adele was also tried in 1950 in Los Angeles for raping his own daughter, I.E. Tamar He was acquitted of this but there have been persistent allegations that a lot of pressure was brought on the LA Press to destroy his daughter's reputation and try to prejudice the jury against her So, yeah. It does seem that there was certainly something going on with all of that. So again it's just bizarre that you see Tamar showing up in these circles here with Sue Loyne and Michelle Phillips and this later bleeds into the later circles around Roman Polanski leading up to the Manson killings Again its pretty well known among people who've studied this that the Phillips John and Michelle

31:30 were a big part of this. There were a lot of these rumors circulating that the Manson killings had been related to sex tapes that were being filmed, John Phillips and Michelle Phillips were supposedly involved in this again but another guy whose name turned up in this was Peter Sellers. Sellars was of course the star of Lolita he was the star of Dr Strangelove he was a good friend of Stanley Kubrick's as was Roman Polanski Kubrick maintained a relationship with Polanski even after the allegations of him raping 14-year old girl had come out in the 1970s. During the 60's, Polanski had actually screened his film The Fearless Vampire Killers at Kubrick's mansion shortly before it was released he invited Kubrick to come to the wedding bash that he was doing at Playboy Club of all places in Los Angeles in 68 so

32:25 Kubrick was definitely fairly close to Polanski at one point. And again, you just sort of see this circle of dark interest surrounding him and I'm often reminded when i think of this the Carol Quilty figure in Lolita the one that's played by Peter Sellers because he's this really d'Avenir suave playwright who works on television and it's later revealed at the end of the film that Lolita ultimately left him after he had asked her to film some quote-unquote art house movies for him, which really politely obscene pornography. So essentially they're coming out and saying this guy's also filming child pornography on the side while he's also maintaining this image as a respectable playwright and filmmaker

33:19 And I have to believe in some levels, obviously this is very close to what Navikov had in the novel as well. But I do feel that Kubrick had brought in aspects of these circles that he was aware of that he might even traveled a little bit and in LA and were showing that in this film. It would continue to linger around him throughout the rest of the 1960's And I have to think on some levels that his decision ultimately to move to the UK in the mid-1960s, to bring himself into this isolated country manner was partly driven by concerns that he had after his daughters had been born. Because again it just seems like there was a very keen interest on Kubrick's part

34:07 in this dark underbelly that surrounded Los Angeles but he seems to have also taken steps to distance himself from it as much as he possibly could after he became a father. And speaking is the fan I do hope that was because you maybe had a, maybe been overcome Jesus moment or something like that every became a father right i mean that is the hope i can see holding out but It's just hard to say cuz maybe they just wanna be a director and you get into hollywood and everyone is just a creep but of course kurt douglass is the first big actor he started working with. Kurt douglas apparently raped natalie wood, and then you have jack nicholson who he worked with and apparently when polanski rape the thirteen year old girl it was at jack nicholson house so he's having some unsavory parties i'm sure this wasn't isolated

35:03 There should be no reason for a 13-year old girl to be at an adult party like that. Then, of course, just his early production partner James B Harris 39 starts dating this underage teenager it's like man you worked on several films with several freaks in front of house and back of house And then this claim that in the book you say recall the allegations that kubrick had a massive trove of hardcore child pornography at his residence at the time of his death i had not heard bad but i mean if he's friends with roman polanski and plans to have this stuff it seems like its not that big of a leap to think that.

35:45 who brick had this as well i suppose of this might have been a common interest of theirs but roman plans guys you said had his wedding reception at the playboy club. And that is fascinating cuz i've heard your previous interviews referencing this new series about. The secrets of playboy and i watched a good half of it myself i can't believe they're on season two of such a thing, And it does seem like you have there was running a ebstein like operation in plain sight now we know what did he as well. You have these big crazy parties with all the celebrities you can fit under one roof and then you have cameras across the whole thing, in the grotto in the bedrooms and this was you have to stay here is very open about it he would be. In mainstream interview say everything that goes on in the mansion is found

36:37 Well they may like this is an intelligence operation at least a blackmail operation it definitely is something that accumulates power when you get all the dirt so that kubrick was like kinda just one degree away from. This sort of network maybe not even a degree away if you had a trove of child porn but talk to us about kind of this circle and playboy and if this is true that i mean yes we will never really know if it was true but what do you think about that claim that kubrick add a trove of hardcore child porn. Well, I'm dubious of that because the claim came from the blog Crazy Days and Nights. And I will say that they definitely have broken some legitimate stories. The person who runs that does have real sources but the problem with the claim specifically as it related to Kubrick is this was part of a series of allegations that were made going back to the filming of Lolita

37:35 Essentially it alleged that Kubrick had filmed pornography with all of these girls that auditioned for the part of Lolita and then had continued to sexually abuse Sue Loin throughout the filmmaking process, and then for several years afterwards when she was off making other films. And the problem with this is that it never mentions James B. Harris, who we can clearly document actually was sexually active with suit loin. So it's a bit of a red flag there to begin with that Harris has never brought up in these claims and then on top of that, the allegations the Kubrick was continuing to keep suit loins around to abuse her for several years afterwards again it's just not geographically possible. Kubrick was mostly in the UK throughout this whole period she was in Los Angeles now James B Harris

38:33 did continue to maintain sexual relations with her for several years afterwards, which again the website never mentions. So I had a theory about that effectively these claims came up around 2006 or so this was about a year and half before Sue Loins shed her mortal coil. So i can't help but wonder if Somebody connected to harris was afraid that sue lines might be preparing to make a death bed confession. And decided to be a little proactive maybe come out and plan of rumor that it was actually his old production partner stanley cubrick there was doing all this stuff i keep her name out the allegations,

39:23 And to this day, it does seem like when people consider whether or not there was sexual abuse going on in the filming of Lolita. It's usually Kubrick that they look at and not James B Harris So I do have to think that in this case you have to consider the possibility that the website was being used to leak what was effectively disinformation But yeah, the whole thing with the Playboy circles. I mean that's extremely valid because all of these guys around Q-Break again were very close to Hefner in this time frame Polanski, I mean in fact Hugh Hefner actually put up the funding for Polanski to make Macbeth which was the film that he did in the aftermath of the Tate-Libaca murders. So there was that Jack Nicholson was also a regular at The Playboy Club and several other locations in Los Angeles and again it really needs be emphasized just how horrendous some these activities were playing out there

40:21 I think that it maybe hasn't been looked at as much because there's not direct indications that minors were being used in this kind of operation the way that they were in say like Epstein. But again, some of these playmates were actually photographed when they were still minors which Playboy was able to get away with because they waited until they were 18 to release the pictures even though they were actually teenage girls when they shot them I don't really understand how exactly that makes legal sense, but nonetheless that was the state of affairs for some time. And again whether or not these girls were kept at Boy Mansion or some of these other places

41:03 During these parties, we'll never know but it would certainly not surprise me. But again it brings up this recurring thread that there is this underground network of pornography involving all of these celebrities and it does seem to circle on the sort of network I guess back in the day would have been called quote unquote New Hollywood or something like that of these people around the Polanskis, Jack Nicholson Warren Beatty so on and so forth. And again this is a circle that Kubrick was certainly in the periphery of he knew a lot of these people after the allegations with Polanski broke in late 1970s where Jack Nicholson was implicated. Nicholson ends up going out to the UK for almost two years it turns out make The Shining with Stanley Kubrick

41:58 other things it kinda gives a place that you can go out to a lot of cocaine and sort of be out the public eye for a little bit so. To me, it is inconceivable that Kubrick was not aware of some of this stuff. And it gets even weirder when you consider the Paul Krasner connection to all this because Krasner did a lot of interesting investigation into the Manson killings he was one of the first people to raise the possibility of these pornographic tapes being a reason for the killings to have occurred in the first place He helped with a lot of May Brussels research into this

42:33 can't you read the real so this is a good topic that i think it's minimum he would have had some kind of academic interest in. And add on to that actually knew several people who were involved in this list of roman lansky, really got to consider that this was something that was major point of interest for him absolutely and it is a tangled web The playboy thing yeah underage girls that's not great clearly but there is many girls of age that seem to claim they were drugged and then raped and then basically shown the footage of it. And the women at the mansion are kind of captive in,

43:24 You have to add a library of video tapes of everything that was filmed and all the celebrities any had a librarian there who is like a guard for that room. And there's one episode the gets into bill cosby being a predator just been, Off the leash at the playboy mansion drugging whoever taking him to whatever room and then like coming back time and time again you have no idea what's going on he's got tapes so. What are unsafe resub but another thread on the web is kubrick cousin paul. And just wild the way this guys life went in the people involved in his investigation but talk was about kubrick cousin paul,

44:05 Now, Kubrick's cousin Paul was... that was definitely one of the most shocking things that I had turned up when i was researching this and it was only towards the end of it. So anyway, Paul Prevailer was from Kubrick's mother's side He had also grown up in the new york area around work you bring the rest of his family have been but. His parents are relocated to los angeles i think right around the time paul turned eighteen and he had followed them out there, Paul was, I want to say about nine years younger than Stanley Kubrick. They definitely knew each other when they were minors. They had done some time at a summer camp together for instance but i have not been able to figure out if they still maintain ties after Paul and Kubrick were adults but again I think there was definitely a possibility of that for reasons that I will get into here in a minute

45:02 But anyway, Paul Prevailer he had struggled with college. He had ended up going into the army and I think in 1958 or 59 he served for two years. He had some disciplinary problems. He'd been promoted a few times and then was ultimately demoted due to some behavior issues. So got down into the army. He ends up joining the LAPD. He's a fairly successful cop again for about two years but he's finally forced out of the force by the mid-1960s and this was due to him trying to find an abortion doctor, to help a fellow officer. And you have to remember at this point in time that abortion is still illegal so

45:46 It's a big no-no for cops trying to go out and find abortion doctors for other cops during the point in time. But he did avoid any kind of legal repercussions, he just lost his job so from the next couple years as he gets into the insurance racket, he is working as private detective, fraud claims investigator and all this other good stuff And then he hooks up with another woman who is already married and that sort of begins what I like to think of as the double indemnity phase in his life. Double Indemnity was a famous film noir movie from the 1940s that was written by Billy Wilder, it's about a love triangle where a man and woman that he is having an affair with launch a scheme to murder her husband and collect massive insurance premium which is known as a double indemnity

46:36 after he has been dispatched with. And this is basically what Paul started doing, first he assisted in murdering his mistress's husband to collect the insurance money He used this to start two bars in the LA area and then he murdered his wife for the same purposes and this eventually blew up in his face nineteen sixty eight he was arrested for these crimes right around the time that's when we can return to the united states for the last time, four two thousand one finish the editing of it and then to be in the states for the premiere new york city a few other things engaged at that point of time.

47:19 And the whole thing with prevailing i mean if this wasn't just weird enough to begin with it's when you get into the trial that things just become extraordinary and some of the stuff that came out. And least of all is the distinct possibility that prevail or was essentially running a criminal enterprise out of his main bar video which was known as the grand duke, And specifically, Prevailer really specialized in trafficking arms. He would frequently procure stolen firearms from local hoodlums and then he would disassemble them and reassemble the arms and then sell them where they have basically been stitched together from all these different pieces. This was done because it made these guns pretty much untraceable so

48:05 These were the types of weapons that you would look for if you were going to do a contract killing, for instance. Because it would be almost impossible to trace this gun anywhere and then you also kind of add in the fact that this bar The Prevailer was running had a reputation as being a police bar or cops' bar so lot off-duty cops are showing up there Paul's a former cop and yet he seems to be engaged in a lot of criminal activity while all this is playing out So, you get to this trial and it's just got this all-star cast of characters. One of the detectives is John St. John This is the actual detective who investigated the Elizabeth Short murder ie The Black Dahlia Murder from the late 1940s up until he retired in 1993

48:58 longest detective to look into the case. He also investigated a ton of other celebrated cases, especially related to serial killers. He was one of the main detectives on Richard Ramirez' The Night Stalker for instance and he was also the source for David Lynch's Lost Highway which was partly inspired by the Black Dahlia killings Again, this is interesting because it seems like there were references to George Hedell in that movie even though Hedell was not linked to the Dahlia killings until several years later when his son Steve Hedell published an excellent account of his possible father's involvement in the murders. So St John seems like the kind of guy who knew more about some of the crimes than he investigated then what he had publicly led on

49:43 So that's the cop. The prosecutor is Vincent Bugliosi, who after Prevailer was convicted would go on to become the celebrated prosecutor of Charles Manson. In fact it was the Prevailer killing that really helped launch Bugliosi career so he could get the Manson case And he also went on to write a book about this fact where the names are changed it was called death do us part of what is follow up to help your shelter. And ironically it was made into a made for tv movie in nineteen ninety two that start our list howard, who played cowboy and full metal jacket playing boogaloo so

50:24 Interesting kind of circle of events with all that. And then finally, we get to the defense lawyer this was not for prevailer but for his mistress and this was Melvin Beli. Beli is another guy that shows up in all kinds of crazy places he was Jack Ruby's attorney He helped set up the Rolling Stones free concert at Altamont The one where the Hell's Angels knifed a guy to death In fact Bellai was under quite a bit of controversy the following year in 1969 because of Altamont, and that was incidentally when the Zodiac started sending him letters. So Bellai later become entangled in all this with the Zodiac killings as well

51:10 So, to recap. Paul Brevella goes to trial with the Black Dahlia detective investigating his case, Vincent Bugliosi as his prosecutor and Melvin Belli as the defense attorney for his mistress Of course, they end up getting convicted. She ended up getting out on parole I think in 1977 or thereabouts and as far as I was able to determine Prevailer is still in prison he has never been released but there was just so much crazy stuff that came up in the trial most notably the fact that he was involved with a lot of far right wing groups. He was a member of The John Birch Society. He was probably tied in with The Minutemen which

51:52 which is what makes his involvement in arms trafficking even weirder because the Minutemen, they were one of the earliest Cold War era militias in the country. They were heavily involved in arms trafficking and the 1960's they turn up in the arms trafficking that was happening around New Orleans tied into Kennedy assassination with a lot of other stuff. They were implicated numerous acts of terrorism in the Southern California area, as well as arms trafficking all throughout the 1960s. So this was a really major criminal organization that Prevailer was at least getting literature from. You've just got all of this insane stuff tied in with these killings and it's been almost totally swept under the rug. It wasn't even acknowledged that Kubrick was his cousin until I think really like in the last decade or so

52:45 And there's just some insane stuff with this because one of the gapers that Prevailer had apparently tried to launch is he tried to get two would-be criminals that came into his bar, to quote unquote murder a wealthy relative of his who would be coming into town with $70,000 in cash at LAX. So again this is the 60s. This was right around the time that Kubrick's parents were moving to Los Angeles So you gotta consider some real possibilities here that it might have been Kubrick's parents or his uncle or somebody the Prevailer was trying to put a contract out on.

53:25 Yes so crazy man this is really great research and it's another example of this thing i don't know what to call a legal containment it seems like with a lot of high profile cases you call in the cavalry. And all the trusted attorneys and prosecutors and people that will keep the story, Contained to a certain level of hangout and they won't let the really crazy stuff come out that's why you see some of the same names in people pop up time and time again but. Yeah who works cousin paul arrested by the cop in the black dahlia thing, and george hodell who is this suspected killer according to the book his own son road.

54:08 He was doing underground abortions and cubers cousin paul is seeking out an underground abortion i don't know if there's any real connection there but he also, who works cuz in paul wasn't x copy did security work for the playboy club so it's like wow. The world is small i guess everybody seems to be a part of this little world and it is quite small but Man i can't believe we're almost an hour into this thing were fifty two minutes in according to this recording here we haven't even talked really about the films. And I wanted a guess of rolling and fit one of the first our let's throw in the shining because you have an interesting take on the shining that maybe jives with the things we have spent this first hour talking about, and that the symbolism and subtext is actually about child abuse this is not something i've heard but can you explain that

55:01 Yeah i mean going back and looking at the shining it definitely seemed like there were a lot of cancer that i don't sort of felt like there was something bizarre about that one specific scene in the movie where. Danny is in the apartment with jack and there's just that kind of weird scene where jack is putting his arms around him and almost like kinda fondling him it just had this really creepy vibe to it. The upon rewatching the film a couple points that were definitely some odd stuff the jump down about one is the,

55:38 magazine that Jack Torrance is reading early in the film when they're being shown around the Overlook before it closes for the season. First, it's a copy of Playgirl and not Playboy meaning that there would be nude male models on there and not female ones And then there is also an article referenced on the cover of it That is about incest and essentially trying to justify it Yeah, why parents sleep with their children. Yes, why parents sleep with their children? So if Jack was sexually abusing Danny you can maybe see that would be why he would be interested in that specific article there then of course there's the famous red rum murder of course written backwards but I mean you could also say that it looks like red rump kind of indicating a bloody behind

56:34 You have some of the other weird stuff with room 237. I almost wonder in some levels if that was meant to be a metaphor for the sexual abuse that was happening in there because you have this sort of just traumatic encounter that both Danny and Jack have in there, Jack, I mean almost seems changed in sense after he comes out of room 237 after he's confronted by the rotting corpse of the woman in there So that had led me to consider whether or not Kubrick was actually using The Shining as a metaphor for sexual abuse among parents of their children, because it really does turn into this vicious cycle. And in a sense you can almost see Kubrick applying that to the Jack Torrance character in the sense that he's almost become

57:30 stuck in this time loop where he's forced to relive these experiences over and over again, maybe in a different carnation. Maybe it is himself who really knows per se but its almost how sexual abuse becomes endemic and the sense that many people who molest children were often molested themselves as children And in a way you can almost see the very end of the film Jack is pursuing Danny through the maze and Danny ultimately escapes jack by walking back over his footprints and then ultimately exiting the maze in a sense this is almost like breaking the cycle of abuse, escaping this torment over and over again. So I definitely think that at least to me this is really at the core of what Kubrick was getting out with The Shining

58:26 And the sense that you do have this epidemic amount of abuse that is in families and the tremendous amount of strength and courage it takes to break out of this cycle of abuse, not fall back into this hellish repetition. Yeah man just to add a little bit to that you say in the book proponents of the abuse theory point to the films disturbing use of bear symbolism towards the end of the film Danny's mother Wendy encounters two male figures engaged in oral sex and one of the overlooks rooms. The man performing the act is dressed in a bear costume some have interpreted this particular scene as Wendy's realization that jack it's actually abusing their son

59:09 This cast an unsettling light on danny's imaginary friend tony danny describes tony as the little boy who lives in my mouth. Danny and search a finger into his mouth while speaking as tony earlier in the film then you talk about a couple things you mentioned the playgirl magazine, and the lap scene and then you say. In this context, the horrors of Stanley Kubrick's The Shining reveal themselves as the trauma of a child being sexually abused by a parent. The ghosts can be seen as manifestations of this abuse. This is especially true in Room 237. The female phantom that inhabits it is literally the embodiment of Danny's abuse and attempts to choke the life out of the child and...this is just something I got out your book that

59:56 A lot of Kubrick's work is somewhat conspiratorial in nature or hits on the kind of things that you and i tend to investigate lolita, that's obvious doctor strange love the disturbing inner workings of the military industrial complex two thousand one space out of sea technology. Beans outside a time and space clockwork oranges mk ultra psychological programs foisted on prisoners Full metal jacket, mental abuse of soldiers and the horrors of war rather than the typical rah-rah glory stuff that Hollywood tends to put out. Eyes wide shut, of course sex cults are rich and powerful but then you get to The Shining and it's like well possession and paranormal sure but a deeper look at it is that connection between paranormal activity and trauma and abuse anyone who has researched even ufology or just high strangeness

1:00:51 When people are put in extreme states of consciousness often through something negative like trauma they experience more paranormal activity and so the fact that you have a movie that on the surface everyone just thinks it's about a possessed hotel. And then there is this other understanding that its manifestations of the abuse of this kid i mean i think that that holds water but also as a layer to, just kubrick's understanding of a lot of these things that you and i research or interview guests about it's like man he didn't have just a beginners understanding of the stuff you seem to know what pretty well, oh absolutely and i mean i think that there is some other kind of sinister references handed ads with the shining as well when obviously they do sort of talk about

1:01:45 the legacy of the guests that had stayed at The Overlook over the years. What is it, The Lion Presidents? Kings? All the Best People or something like that... So it was certainly quite a high society establishment during its heyday and to some extent still is but the thing with The Overlook Hotel I really can't help but feel that Hubert specifically had two inspirations for this One was hearse castle and i say that specifically not just because of the look of the overlook hotel but also to drive up to it if you ever driven up hers castle is really isolated on top of this mountain you have to take this sort of crazy winding road up to it so i can't help but feel that that was definitely one of the partial inspirations with that and.

1:02:42 Certainly, again if you've been to Hearst Castle it's not hard to see how some very unsavory things could have taken place there. Of course there were a lot of parties held up there for these Hollywood types at this very isolated place that also happened to have its own private zoo with all of these taggers and stuff like that just kind of wandering around the grounds and so forth But the other inspiration I think for the overlook that's really interesting is the possibility that the original hotel, there was on top of Lookout Mountain was a model that Kubrick was using. And if you go back and look at pictures of this hotel on the top of Lookout Mountain it really does looks almost identical to how The Overlook is made to look in The Shining and again its kind of similar thing with these winding roads up the side of mountain

1:03:32 And again, for those of you not familiar with Lookout Mountain this ties into all the stuff with Laurel Canyon. This is the spot where they eventually built that enormous air force base up there that was making all these different films it's kind of theorize that this was used as a major means of psychological warfare, military intelligence community at the heart of hollywood for a lot of years. But prior to this there is very very exclusive hotel that was on top of local mountain again attracted a lot of these VIPs out there And this just would have been so insanely isolated in this era, this would've been right back around 1920 which is again incidentally right around the time frame. In the film where you see jack being reincarnated when you see that final picture there at the end

1:04:24 But again, you know this sort of goes into some weird rumors about all the stuff it was said that. This hotel and then later the one that they have on top of mount low in hollywood area is where a lot of these wealthy film heads and what have you would go to do engage in some other more decadent affairs that they were interested So, in a sense you could potentially see Kubrick with this also hinting at some of the darker Hollywood industry and what potentially went on at these isolated resorts that the VIPs have gone to over the years. And again this maybe ties into why Jack is basically stuck in this cycle of reincarnation that seems to be directly tied to The Overlook Hotel

1:05:14 Yeah good points and I think it also could be why Stephen King really didn't like the adaptation he thought there were a lot of really strange choices and deviations from the initial story that he didn't get from what i've read. And that would be maybe because Kubrick was making it about something else. And I also think overlook is an interesting term, families tend to overlook this kind of abuse and the audience tended to overlook it too they didn't seem to notice until people really held it under the microscope but I just find that all interesting. I think there's probably some truth to that take

1:05:54 i guess before we really call it in here i would ask you what is your favorite kubrick film personally would you say. I would say Dr. Strangelove, for a long time said Eyes Wide Shut after that but I actually feel like Barry Lyndon has maybe surpassed that a little more in recent years. Yeah well just because again everybody always talks about how emotional as Kubrick's movies are and i don't see how you can really apply that to Barry Lyndon especially and especially learning more about Kubrick's life it's clear to me that he very much emphasized with Barry Lyndon

1:06:30 as being almost stand in for himself and that particular movie when you think about just the story of this is sort of this, naive lad who's roped into military service ends up becoming a spy and then he engages in a lot of this behavior to try to break into. the British aristocracy and then just as he sort of got a toehold in there, ends up getting kicked out from underneath him. But he's just ultimately such a tragic figure with the last kind of major sequence in the film where he has to duel with his son Lord Bullington or whatever the heck his name was but essentially you know for those who have never seen it they do the duel

1:07:17 Bullington wins the first shot and his pistol misfires. So now Barry, who is an experienced soldier gets a free shot at him and most likely he could have killed him or at least severely wounded him but instead he decides to throw his shot too and give Bullington another crack And Bullington actually could have decided to call the duel off now. Honor would have been observed because they both took shots at each other, but he ends up going through and he manages to wound Barry in the leg and it ultimately leads him losing the leg and his downfall as a result of that But it's an interesting thing because despite everything Despite all of the unsavory things that Barry Lyndon has done throughout the film

1:08:02 He still maintains a sense of basic human decency and honor. He can't bring himself to shoot his despised stepson, even though it ends up resulting in his own downfall." And that's I think kind of Kubrick's comment on the difference between Barry and the rest of the British aristocracy. Barry does have that decency that they were never able to totally steal from him And i think that maybe represents cubrics own hopes and aspirations for himself because he's this. Kind of similar figure didn't come from a poor background obviously didn't come the best one either but he was able to call his way into hollywood, you might have been course to becoming a spy or maybe not so cool worst

1:08:47 But it seems to have felt a little off about his place in this world. And I think that you see this ultimately reflected and very linden and how easily all of those can be taken away from the social climber Yeah i think those are great points very london is a film i watched once actually in high school had the kubrick box set. All this films and i think that one hours like i just don't know if it's because im sixteen years old but i don't care about this at all, And i just understand how excited as a favorite and of course it might not be on the surface as provocative as. The themes of all the other films which i mentioned do tie right into the content of this show in your research but it does its about the british aristocracy and

1:09:37 You know their attitudes towards human decency are not having any and bring someone in a normal person you see the contrast. That yeah i think that's really great pitch for dusting out old film off and finally why is the book titled the minute or four people who might be wondering, What's the minute or is this darkness and cubrics all that i've been a looting to end the lab runs for his films. I believe the cube rick ultimately constructed these films these labyrinths is both for his audiences but also for himself so they have something to trap this man at four in this darker side of personality beside of his personality was drawn people like james b harris roman blanket

1:10:23 and you have to run all these other different circles and try and keep it separate from this really idealistic family life that he was able to create for himself in the UK. Right on i love it great stuff man when you told me your working on a book i knew there was gonna be a fun thing to talk about, i'm really happy to see your work being celebrated across the counterculture conspiracy podcast in landscape of course we did our first one when you are still anonymous. And doing just the vice up view blog which is obviously still active and insightful as ever but i'm lucky to know ya,

1:11:09 I really enjoy when i get to talk to you again is there anything else we should tell the people about the podcast, blog other upcoming projects? Well I got these second book of art that hopefully be starting work on here in fall. I don't think I'll have it out by the end of year but that's going to exciting this is gonna be one getting into history of the Fortean society discordianism just a lot of crazy stuff But as always, I am the host of The Farm Podcast. We've got the Patreon and there's also a weekly free episode that is on Apple and Spotify and all that other good stuff so yeah definitely check it out and consider getting a copy of the book It was obviously a major labor of love on my part And hopefully it will be something that will inspire Kubrick fans film fans and parapolitical researchers in equal measures

1:12:01 Yeah man you made a really solid contribution to the kubrick discourse and. Who does to you for it your great example of equality researcher in an age where that's harder to find, again lucky to know yet thanks for doing a six show with me i look forward to more on the future keep crushing take care thank so much for having me sir Yes, people! Recluse once again. The Force is strong with this one and I do always enjoy his work even when he's throwing a wet blanket on the far-out epic stuff Obviously it's a lot of fun to think Kubrick had a hand in faking the moon landing And then he was brought into the inner circle and revealing things through The Shining and ultimately Eyes Wide Shut and then he got killed for it It's a compelling narrative but I think that's all it is

1:12:55 Recluse just makes too many good points in the book for me to subscribe to that sequence of events anymore, but that doesn't mean it's totally without some merit. I do think just studying and ripping off his front projection effects is good enough He doesn't have to be hands-on to be tangentially involved you know what i'm saying? I'll just read this paragraph from the book one more time but Stephen says In fairness to the moon hoax proponents, Kubrick's 2001 co-writer Arthur C. Clarke met with NASA officials during 1965 possibly leading to a team of NASA scientists visiting the 2001 set in the fall that year They were impressed enough to dub Kubrick's offices quote NASA East

1:13:46 2001 had become, quote a speculative space program enabling NASA to quote test their design ideas in the visual medium of cinema and then Stephen rightly asks why exactly NASA would want to gauge how their designs appeared cinematically is a mystery but hardly evidence of Kubrick conspiring with them it does raise a possibility rarely aired however that Kubrick suspected NASA had stolen his 2001 work to fake the moon landing. That is good enough for me and it is how they tend to operate on this need-to-know basis, why loop in more people than they have too? But what really clicked for me in this episode overall was just all of the unsavory kiddie stuff around Kubrick

1:14:37 You can't be best buddies with Roman Polanski and some of these people who have more than a few eyebrow-raising skeletons in their closet without seeming a little suspect yourself. The stuff about Kubrick's cousin was pretty wild, and loopin' in some of the Playboy Mansion stuff... And if you're a fan of this kind of material, you really should watch that series, Secrets of the Playboy Mansion on its second season. It gets a little slow at times but just jump around to selected episodes like the Bill Cosby one and you'll start to see a lot of that for what it really was Kubrick did have two daughters which Steven said he found no evidence of abuse with He thinks Kubrick's pretty clean in that regard

1:15:21 But the reason his daughter Vivian cited for declining to score Eyes Wide Shut when she had previously scored Full Metal Jacket was that, quote, "...the script could awaken some bad memories of satanic ritual abuse she had experienced in a former incarnation." It's a very weird thing to say. That you won't take the job because you think the material might be triggering? But former incarnation is pretty clear So after reading the Minotaur, it's as if Recluse has reset the table on Kubrick research and said don't get caught up in the silly stuff or the stuff that sounds just too epic. Focus on the very real inappropriate stuff that was going on all around him And of course his work is gonna be subject to a lot of attempted decoding He had a style that just lends itself to that Very slow with a lot of attention to detail and the subject matter

1:16:20 When you list each one of his films and what it's about, they all have a conspiracy slash paranormal topic at their core. So lots to like the plus show got deeper into Dr. Strangelove JFK and psychological warfare The lengthy section of the book where recluse gives plenty of evidence that the JFK administration was working with Kubrick to craft public opinion on a couple of subjects Particularly how inept but war-hungry the military industrial complex really was. Something I could see the American people not being very exposed to until some of the conversations in the War Room, in that film We tackled 2001, Gnosticism and Ufology Love that stuff Didn't know about Kubrick's desire to depict aliens a certain way or any other stuff from that section

1:17:13 We brought up that famous farmhouse seance and the channeling of the nine as we tend to do but it connects as well. And finally Saturnian symbolism in Kubrick films and Eyes Wide Shut no, it's not a satanic ritual It's a Saturnalia one! And it was awesome to hear about the source material used on that film Rekluse definitely did his research become a plus member Do it for yourself if you like the show I think you've earned an eight dollar a month treat And I'm with a lot of these guys though, that Satanism is really just a catch-all term for... ...I see something dark and weird and i don't know enough about that stuff. So I'll just say Satanism or of course if you're a Christian researcher as so many are then you're on the good side and Satanism is the bad side and outside of that simplistic framing within that bubble nothing else in the world is very relevant

1:18:07 Great book though. He's got a lot of irons in the fire working on a lengthy series already and then just throws this one in out of nowhere Man, I can't even get one book finished or barely started I should say So he is the man and he keeps the quality high And I'm thankful he keeps us in the rotation In Hireside News pretty much the same old same ol' Just stayin' the course But let's check out the plus review for the latest Schwab show And it looks like it's clocking in at a 4.5 I'll take that! I even said, in the wrap-up of that episode That I kinda knew it wasn't our best interview The other two were a lot better if you ask me And interviewing is really just learning how to get the best out of people and we all have our strengths and I kind've learned how to get A's out of Schwab by ending up with AB I think thats okay to say

1:19:02 I still think he's one of the greats in this new round of writers, usually people who are utilizing Substack and Twitter as a 1-2 combo of attracting new readers. Guys like TheEthicalSkeptic and RawEggNationalist and a few other people i hope to add to our roster as well but a lot of them are anonymous and I just think that's so cool make a serious living from writing content that you care about and basically branding yourself under some anonymous pseudonym. Some of these guys are making six figures a year, some of them are making six figures a month and no one ever even really sees a picture of them or hears the real name. Cheers to Substack for creating that infrastructure

1:19:52 But yes, I think this last one with Schwab helped me understand how to pick better material from his writing for our interviews. Some things you just have to read because they're kind of hard to talk about a lot of people got hung up on that smiling thing anyway let's hit the trusty events calendar at highersidemeetups.com looks like next on deck is June 23rd this Sunday at the Broadway Cafe in Kansas City, Missouri. June 30th why not go down to Poor House Barbecue in Canaan New Hampshire and meet some new friends? And then July we only got two on here so far but the first there's a Meetup in Lansing Michigan at The Rooted Socialite and July 6th New Buffalo Michigan at Rolling Embers

1:20:42 The calendar really is just a public service that came out of my thoughts about how isolating podcast listening can be, how many comments I get about hey i thought i was the only one who had these thoughts. It's good to hear some solidarity! I wish I had more people to talk about these things with and then COVID lockdowns and all that stuff it was easy to feel isolated even from people you love if they bought into the whole sham and drank the Kool-Aid, they would only talk through Zoom. And that's embarrassing So a big reason why this calendar exists and is paid to be maintained is really just because I want you guys to have those opportunities so let's fill that calendar up! It IS summer after all

1:21:27 If you want to meet some new local people over an enjoyment of THC and a desire to strengthen your network, hop on there and just pick a random place that you like having a drink. I'll read it out and some people will show up! Available to everyone not just Plus Members and totally free HiresideMeetups.com But that's the show. I hope it was interesting and entertaining, thanks for listening and double thanks to the Plus People! So many things in my life right now in particular would be a lot harder if I didn't have the flexibility of this job and the support that has come with it. It means a lot. I'm constantly thinking about people out in the world who have to deal with all the things I deal with...have two kids at this age

1:22:12 many other things and then also have to put in 8-10 hours a day at a job they hate and barely get paid for it? It's fucking insane, you know. That's all I can say But take care of you and yours! I've done my part Your move Hollywood weirdos Filmmaker freaks And subpar Kubrologists You're fucking... Watch out in life We can't stand around and stay up too late

1:24:15 The highest I've spelt on you, to do the time. I ain't gonna take none of your foolin' around. And I can't stand. I can't stand! So you're mine? The highest I've spelt on you You're not afraid To do the time Yeah yeah

1:25:33 I can't help it