Ryan Cristian | Maui Fires, Ongoing Operations, & The Many Threads Of Our Agenda Driven World

00:03 No need for arduous seeking. All you have to do is follow the clues You start to see this as a simulation, as a type of computerized AI manufactured reality We are playing like putty into the hands of the manipulators who are just setting us at war with each other The fastest arm will surely have a plan It's clearly maybe something close-casted This is the way higher side chatters coming in hot from the sunshine state. I'm Greg Carlwood and for those who have the eyes to see, the state of mainstream news media is about as sad as I've ever seen with most of the airtime spent tearing down this sacred cow figure heads of team red or blue filtering everything through a lens of climate alarmism and still trying to cultivate the right level of outrage over things that happened years ago that are still falling pretty flat

01:34 You won't hear a word about Agenda 2030, the World Economic Forum, the latest studies on COVID jab damage. The false promises of the green tech grift digital IDs individual carbon tracking the attack on independent farmers and ranchers ESG scores, social credit, microchip implanted pills for compliance tracking. Continued corporate de-platforming and online narrative control banking consolidation or any of the things that are happening all around us that are getting harder to ignore It's like a hypnotist trying to put you under while the building you're in is being demolished. It shouldn't be working, and if it is your sleeping so deeply someone should check your pulse. Luckily though we still have a few brave dedicated pockets of propaganda parsing true journalism like The Last American Vagabond and the main man behind it today's guest Ryan Christian

02:27 Ryan founded The Last American Vagabond with a mission to quote, "...allow a free flow of information in regard to current issues that face the world...with a focus being on many such issues that are purposefully and discreetly culled by those who stand to lose either financially or professionally due to their relevance." Speaking truth to power and only getting more popular every day, he has cultivated a network of top-level independent journalists from around the world including occasional THC guests Whitney Webb and Derrick Brose. And the contrast between what they do and where the mainstream is only works further in their favor

03:05 On top of a constant flow of great articles and a fresh unbiased perspective on current events, you can hear Ryan summarizing the latest news on his podcast The Daily Wrap Up. Keeping up with his Rockfin show Moving Target and pulling together the disenchanted and de-platformed voices of dissent on The Pirate Stream A busy man doing more in a day than I do all week! The dedicated deep diving journalist hidden agenda highlighter And truly the last American vagabond Ryan welcome to the higher side Well, it's a pleasure to be here man. Big fan of your show and thank you for the kind words in the introduction I love it Of course this is an honor! I've had a lot of respect for you for quite a long time Your output is just super impressive And the team you've cultivated is top tier

03:50 I really like that little self-description that i quoted where you say the focus is on issues that are purposefully and discreetly called by those who stand to lose financially and professionally because it does seem like the mainstream has gotten so compromised, That they have to call any coverage of the majority of things going on in the world which is sort of like a self-inflicted death by 1,000 cuts as more people realize they're leaving more out than they're putting in. Absolutely, and for me the statement was really also trying to make it as clear as possible that outside of the paradigm perspective right whatever we see being cold removed hidden because either side of the paradigm or illusion but all people within it are trying to benefit by hiding that you know when you write the media corporate media today is just. It's a positive thing quite frankly I think more people are seeing through it than ever yeah its gotten clumsy and desperate end that's why shows like yours important

04:49 And websites like yours and. It's going to be great to get into so many of these different things that you've been covering. I think most recently, I heard you talking about the Maui fires and I saw Whitney Webb's post saying how about we stop pretending to be experts in directed energy weapons and fire dynamics and just try to help the people who lost everything? And I do understand that sentiment sometimes we get so into the analysis that we forget real people are caught up in these things little less interested in the mechanism and more interested in the questions of if this was intentional or completely organic. And, in those terms there are some factors you've been talking about that make this tragic event very convenient for some of the usual suspects right? Yeah there's a lot of factors and dynamics well just first to Whitney's point I mean I wholeheartedly agree and I think that the problem is

05:45 And she would agree with this as well. We should always be willing and able and open to questions asking things, you know? Could this have been involved is there evidence to that effect what she's pointing out is the people that are right now. flooding the conversation with hypothesis or pressing those ideas as absolute fact without knowing for sure and that eclipsing the very reality of people suffering, as you're pointing out. And that's such a sad thing to see, partisanship—you're going to hear that my audience knows well—that at the crux of every point seems to come back to the fact that these false sides are keeping us from getting any real momentum past that but to your question what we're seeing on the ground is I mean there's a lot

06:23 History here around how corporation that goes back to the original occupation of the Hawaiian islands in general behind us specifically the area where this was as I understand it was the original like the capital if that's the correct term of the kingdom of Hawaii before. The occupation and its. Apparently one of the strongest holdouts in all of the islands of Hawaii, in regard to not giving into the corporate growth and trying to cut the Oprah's and Bezos and Zuckerbergs that are these parasites at the island. People that are like what Larry Singer buys an entire island and argues he's going to make it a playground for the rich? I mean these people lived there you know and not everybody wanted to leave right

07:03 And so in this case, what we're seeing is that there's a lot of overlap to that where it doesn't prove that this was done because of that. But we should ask that right? Were their interests that were so hell bent on trying to get this area that they'd be willing to execute something like this and that doesn't have to mean that everything that went out afterward was all part of it maybe something was done and not got out of control Maybe that overlaps with the real situation That is part of this that as the corporate You know i talked about this with shelby from injecting which is gonna come out later today are okay made a similar point, i saw the snow while myself corporations come in and they basically don't care about the local area of the brain. Non indigenous species of plants and animals in this ruins the area it's been going on forever in one case she points out the sugar cane industry how what they did in general had left a lot of dry

07:51 They basically hurt the land where it leaves a lot of dry brush and things that aren't taken care of. But then when they left, which apparently has also happened before all this, they then left it even worse so that the areas that they were using are even still dry. And so you end up with this area that's rife for this kind of problem and then you combine that with what they say were the winds and you can see how fire might just happen but the real point is all of the anomalies we get into that like the questions that we should be asking about how the fires are making things that I don't seem to think make sense Until we can prove anything, we should shy away from saying it's this or that. My coverage has really been trying to discern the truth of it all and ask questions without definitively saying we know one with the other if we don't. I think that is really important

08:32 Yes, and I think your approach is one of the best. I love that you're truly bipartisan nonpartisan outs Yeah exactly as soon as I said I was like mmm yeah You're outside of the system I try to be the same way every time you want to criticize The Biden administration someone says well what about this? And then when you criticize Trump you get a what about that and it's like let's get outside of that That is though the worst kind of mind control scheme there is, it's just coordinating us off into these two teams. But when it comes to the Maui fires there is apparently a pretty secret-ish military installation there that seems like it could be pretty relevant to the cause or the directed energy weapon question right? Yeah and in my effort to do this like so right out of the gate when this came out

09:25 I was very skeptical because more than ever today, as i'm sure you're aware any conversation that becomes something that I think is important whether because this is just corruption or covering up the fact that they didn't act well enough or their systems didn't work we can get into all that stuff. You know those alone people are willing to cover these things up because they don't want to be accountable right so whether it's that or something larger right away when you see something like this important it gets dumped from either side with things that aren't real old images from 10 years ago or pictures from paradise, California fires. And so I was really on guard to start going like okay, I know that's not real. Like you know I saw people sharing images of laser beams where I took 10 seconds to do a reverse image search and you could find the image from five years ago and they added it. Whether they know that are not is kind of irrelevant. So I'm flooded with fake stuff. So I'm like okay, I'm already on guard but I want to know the truth. So I started digging into this

10:19 And right away i find something really crazy and so my point is whether or not this is related cause the fires are related order is up for you to decide i don't think we can prove that but i found a location. There's general locations called AFRLs or air force research laboratories they're all over world in this case there's one location I don't wanna mispronounce the names, but it's in the mountain range on the larger part of Maui. And it's called the Directed Energy Directorate It's public right? Now if you look this up It's public facing sort of space surveillance research, but as I've tweeted and covered all the source material directly from the people working there including the main guy Dr. Kelly Hammett now he has spoken publicly both on his own website which is currently public or multiple interviews and he is proudly saying for example that he is proud in that he mainly focused on directed energy weapons systems technology for the Air Force then

11:17 Then what are the other parts i think is really incredible as he goes on to say and by the way these two main locations in regard to direct energy research just one on maui was also want new mexico but they're both involved in the same work. Now he openly says this in one of his interviews. He says, quote, we delivered the United States Air Force's first ever operational directed energy weapons. When I read that, I almost fell out of my chair. I'm like okay this doesn't even prove that it was connected to whether this was used or not but i'm thinking how ridiculous? It's like Wuhan lab and the COVID narrative. It's like come on! It's right there and I'm just going okay so still I gotta be careful you know but he goes on to basically say something that I found really relevant

11:55 which was that they not only developed, as he says directed energy counter unmanned aerial systems. Three Raytheon high-energy weapon systems and it's all cited you can look this up for yourself it's on my website and I'll include this if you want to include your show notes but he says the most important one He says the Air Force Research Laboratories Tactical High Power Operational Responder System The acronym of course THOR Which they love to use these acronyms And it says we built THOR in house That's on Maui In 18 months record-breaking time he says as part of these efforts they secure the secretary of defense approval for operational use. All systems so there's no questioning that they have a system that is a direct energy weapon in house system in that location okay and so I thought thats pretty crazy and then you realize its operational so my first thought was ok just thinking outside the box, Is it not possible this was something that was tested?

12:46 Just as any got out of hand like they've done a thousand times or maybe that you can overlap this with the bigger story of how high specifically which is in direct range you could see that it's on the mountain range and see this from there whether this was something that was done. And go to control are done for this purpose we should shy away from asking those crazy questions right But the bigger thing for me is just simply that once we start going through all of the data, Shelby for example from Unjected Thompson, Shelby Thompson she shared this with me. There's a video of somebody's camera who is facing in the direction of this mountain range she confirmed that she knows the person and right before they started you see this massive blue light flash and she testified there was no

13:25 Transformers, because I made the point to say that can look transformers explode. It looks very similar right? There's no power lines back there And it's a direct line to the mountain range now The guy on the video says we saw this blue light you can see it on his camera from his house and then all of A sudden fires are started You know, and so these are all provable things. Whether that means that was a direct energy weapon or not I don't know and I think we should question that we shouldn't assume but i just find this really hard not to include when this seems to be something people are asking as far as I can tell like the entirety of the Maui community is convinced that this was not organic And then we can get into like the way it went down The system's not working The seemingly provable misrepresentation Of how many people actually got killed These things are concerning to me you know

14:08 Yeah i'd love to talk about that but I do agree that it's not wrong to speculate a lot of times we are left with speculation is the only option because all the systems that we have in place. are corrupt and the mainstream journalistic apparatus is also corrupt. So sometimes the real evidence is outside of what we can find, like what we can access and so I think that's okay because a lot of times it's This culture that well if you don't have evidence, you shouldn't speculate that actually keeps a lot of things in house because they control out of the evidence. So you know a lot of these ideas you gotta look at what the motivations look like? What's up pretty convenient coincidence for this system and their overall agenda which

14:57 You know, a lot of people were talking about the land grab aspect and clearing out those holdouts. The people who have lived there for a long time because they have some plans for the region it also is very convenient for the climate change thing every day there has to be some big scary example of how the climate is killing us and we're all screwed and doomed but But yeah, talk to us about some of those other aspects. You mentioned systems not working and the death toll being a little manipulated. What's the real truth there? We always caution skepticism, you know just because someone says it online and just because they live in Maui doesn't make it true. They could be wrong or they could be lying whatever but as always the whole body of this like... You look I mean its overwhelming and I've spoken to people that I know on Maui, I've spoken to people that I know on Oahu, yeah I've spoken to people like Shelby And then again taking into conjunction with all the endless amounts of videos of people fleeing the area and saying that literally we saw bodies everywhere

15:58 It breaks my heart when we saw women with children running and diving in the water, and then acting like it's only 80 people when you can visibly see this. Again, it's all secondhand but here is actually the best example The editor of Maui Now, who is a local paper but is a journalist. Is on the record going she's not being allowed to even be let in the area to see what's going on they won't give her information and their reporting information that nobody else is verifying because people want me like her point is it's not necessarily all the media lying which I'm usually hard at using last thing I think But it's that they're not even letting people get in. So they're basically just reciting the oldest earlier number they have 80 plus or whatever, but people are saying thousands

16:40 I mean, it's hard not to see that when you look at the damage and these people are local. They know where all the people that we knew in there? You know its heartbreaking so thats one thing which is largely second hand information but the way its being handled and this gets into more second hand but you know reports about how the first responders were acting which you know this gets into some weird stuff but theres a lot of reports of the way they apparently were like no even answering questions almost like dead face like wouldn't even respond to these people. I don't know what you want to take that for but I've heard that alot from the average people that survived. Very strange, but then ultimately that they weren't helping anybody there turning away support from anybody that doesn't like people bringing water bringing insulin I was just listening to one of these one of the most famous servers in the world is on the record going look man we're trying to bring insulin they won't even let us bring it in and not because they have an alternative source There's nothing coming and they want you to let us help you know? And then you could overlap that with the fact this is one of the biggest ones for me again I lived a lot over two years

17:37 It's obviously very different islands, more mainstream. But you get very accustomed to both the exercises of hearing the tsunami sirens just to make sure they work but also that tsunamis or warnings are not that infrequent The point is it's very common that you hear this in maui more so and the point is she said you here these things once a month its constant. And then i even pointed out examples of the past where you have multiple false alarms we talked about the fake ballistic missile warning all these things with our career over that and this is the first time i've been hurt up for these things like just didn't work No sirens when up and then you can overlap that with the fact there's military bases on a walk who like really close with high speed boats they apparently still haven't come to help, they could have had people in the shore spraying ocean water it does make sense to me now that's what i say that there is not some reason. There's always an explanation whether you want to take out of a stallion or not but that's not even coming forth with your bad enough the whole thing

18:33 screams that there's a very least cover up because they didn't have it properly you know what overlapping out with the great reset part of i think is why people are so quick to go. I mean there's documents world economic forum two thousand eighteen saying how will be the very first Digital clean energy location yes i know and now seems to be the point where they think the mayor just said like we're gonna rebuild them we got the money that president gave you authority, the president was even helping these people yet already approving new building see what I mean like there's a reason to be skeptical you know when i know you agree with that. the wrote the book on some of that protocol for certain kinds of disasters like mass shootings and then we have these events and These people are like hey this this this isn't this it didn't add up protocol was broken here. So Why is that right? Because these are supposed to be the best techniques and processes for getting through such a situation so yeah always got a look at that and

19:42 I know you research the fires in california we just had these crazy fires and canada it's actually hard to keep up with sometimes you just look at the news that i okay another. Disaster to make people feel completely hopeless but the air quality and a huge swath of the us because of this was affected, Having looked at previous fire events, what are your thoughts on the big picture of all this? Is it a continuum or is it an agenda that's just popping up in different places. Well let's take the first point about the... Take Paradise for example you know that was why I was so skeptical here

20:21 Not because there's not valid reasons to ask these questions, but because I already saw back then how this gets kind of muddied. And look, I quite frankly think part of this is intentional muddying of the water because these things are likely partly real if not entirely That's a real thing we should consider You know that you got the high influencers left right that dump the nonsense and so people ignore it from both sides, you know But Paradise for example This was the first time that I really put some like-I was interviewing...not even for the show Like just speaking with fire chiefs multiple locations, you know what's your take on this? What do you think happened is that strange to you and that's what I've come to find a lot of things like here's a good example something gets misrepresented all the time even though we should always ask whether they could be used nefariously because it very well could be but its a very common tactic for firemen to use these drones to drop these embers in areas prepped for the most part so basically create like a burn line. So with the fire reaches it will stop

21:15 It's a very logical thing to do now of course what happens is people see all up they started you can see them drop in the fires here maybe. That's a fair question ask could be used that way but then you can stand back and see where it was done like okay, the point is that gets misrepresented lot happened a lot paradise And so I started kinda pushing into these things and asking specifically one of these captains about what he thought. And, he was the first one to tell you- and this is a pretty popular video at the time it wasn't mine but i remember sharing from people asking him when i was asking other people about this that he saw things he couldn't explain Things that he was like, I've done for 40 years He's like, That's not possible

21:51 That's important, right? He knows what he is talking about. But then at the same time explaining like the ones that I would speak to going yeah well you know sometimes it can burn right around one house Sometimes it can leave trees based on moisture based on the way the wind was going a thousand factors So these videos especially in Hawaii where its like look at the tree left Its kinda like those don't impact me anymore Because im like maybe but that happens also all of the time with fire You know so that was kind my experience with all that as I came to see very clearly there were A lot of corruption, a lot of overlaps with things that largely then it turned out to be arsonist or at least thats what we're told right. But also the PG&E aspect of not cleaning the lines and all that right now here's the point I think is most important frankly today i'm asking whether that was even the truth

22:34 Then I was thinking, and i think this is how it tends to work. Go gay finally we got him! And they give you that out where you think oh the corruption of the corporation and that's easy take could have been something bigger maybe especially looking today possibly shouldn't shy away from that. I see in Hawaii now the same thing Oh turns out it was electric company and this part of reason im going no you know what seems like a easy out because were gonna quickly go yep that makes sense my point wasn't PG&E They didn't have any negative consequences. In fact, they started charging people more for their bills so if you really look at it they benefited from being called out for that because they said okay fine we're going to increase this and shut your power off when there's a problem with the wind remember that? I mean its crazy! So my main thing is I think there's reason to question these things and I think we see activists like theres level of climate change activists who think by setting fires can convince people its deadly like that really exists

23:27 Those are the radicalized people they pretend we are, right? They're buying the narrative. But there's also the aspect of whether governments would do this and sorry I long-winded answer but I think that governments absolutely are capable of setting fires to achieve a certain end, of testing things without caring for the consequences Or quite literally, executing something like we saw in Hawaii. Now that's hard for some people to wrap their mind around but if you're a student of history both before the United States government and now it's very clear that they would be willing to do that if it was a large enough agenda If they felt like they were cornered enough like I think they feel right now But I don't know! I don't think anybody really knows but yeah I think that the history has shown us a lot of corruption at the very least

24:07 Mm-hmm. I agree and when the people on the World Economic Forum stage are telling us what they want to do And then we see those things happen, right? I mean it's not rocket science but another event that you've spoken about as a orchestrated event or potential land grab is the East Palestine train derailment disaster and It might have been much more than just a land grab, but now that we're six months on from that event I know you've continued to look into it and follow the latest information regarding the health effects of those exposed and dioxins which is a term I don't hear much. But you've said they are the most dangerous category of chemicals we can be exposed too. Talk to us about the aftermath of that disaster in the latest information on it?

24:55 Yeah, it's this one really gets into my skin because yeah now I mean six months past this. And we're at a point now where not only have we found out, and this is what's crazy to me. I'm willing to bet most people in your eyes don't even know this the corporate media sure as hell isn't saying word about it We're at a point now where it has come out in official hearings from the government that they've ruled that burn wasn't controlled It was an uncontrolled burn by every definition of the term The flow of oxygen is typically how you have a controlled burn Burning in the open is not controlling the oxygen so its not controlled That they knew this What's the thing about a lie about it say that whole times media is ridiculous but so they will that was unnecessary. That's a crazy thing to hear now that the entire reason for why this problem wasn't even necessary and then you come to find out that the person at their blaming which is what norfolk southern CEO shaw himself and even the EPA are sort of pointing out if the volunteer fire chief in east palestine no here's what happened

25:50 This came out in the court of law, and this is verifiable when I put this on the show with all the source materials that Alan Shaw went to their experts. He's the CEO of Norfolk Southern. They're experts and most people don't even know this. This wasn't just vinyl chloride it was treated vinyl chloride. I didn't know that until like a month ago And the reason was its treated to make it less volatile That's not something we heard right? Now The point was they went to the expert he went to the expert he asked them-this came out in the hearing They told him it was highly unlikely they would explode Think about that. He then went back to the fire chief, didn't tell him that and the EPA and Alan Shaw basically cornered this guy said you have thirteen hours to make a decision nothing about the pressure for volunteer fire chief one of the largest railroad companies in the world and the federal EPA and local PDA all over the momentum around is all the local people acting like it's his decision to make something happen so that he made a choice based on limited information omitted information. And then they all blame him not today on the record he saying i was real road

26:49 Not no pun intended like he literally was like I was completely run right over nobody cares about this, right? And so all this is so important to the reality that now we can prove that the dioxin levels are not what's really crazy to me. Not only in last couple of months have they not gone down there increasing I think that's because they're digging and moving all the stuff around it causing this to fly in the air, that what the experts are saying. But Scott C Smith one of the independent experts who is still working there this is not hyperbole he found in the air vents of people these homes 14000% higher dioxin levels than control but he was testing. Fourteen thousand percent with a realize these things are measured in parts per trillion

27:30 For being dangerous and the level that they just admitted their finding i just proved a month ago based on all the records from your website is like five hundred times more than the safe level. I'm going but it's equivalent to the other areas will get that's been my point these docs levels are high in a lot of places in the country nobody cares about that, i jus think thats terrifying now the other part of this is you know where to point now where I personally don't really think that this was about a land grab to begin with, but i could be wrong. But now it's clearly part of it right? They're clearly leaning into this they're buying people's land at not the appropriate price despite them swearing they would swear and they would pay for everything they're not paying for testing they're not paying for blood screenings they're refusing too and the media doesn't care about this all right so It very well could be in this very important area in the country that this is all about one stopping the continual farming that they seem want to stop around the world

28:22 But also just buying the land, which will control more of the agricultural area. But these are hypothetical points I can't prove that but it seems to align with everything else we're talking about quite frankly, the biggest part for me is the risk there that opened this door too. P fast which is also a problem that nobody wants to talk about something like the water you guys are thirty years nobody's been caring until now you know dioxins for example, dpa talking about this. For longer than that in fact cnn article ninety five it says that the doctors were getting a fast food reading the EPA said was potentially a hundred times the amount that you should be taking in nineteen ninety five

29:01 Nobody said anything about that it's only gotten worse so that kind of why i think this was a desperate effort to cover up but i think the railroad company which is really about profit get the train running as fast as possible covering everything up, he should be in jail right now yeah absolutely man it's sad here at a time when so many people are one or two paychecks away from financial ruin. They can't even afford to move or relocate, even if they got fair market value. They're tied to their jobs and their careers. This is the heartland of America that seems very coincidental given everything we hear from The World Economic Forum and the changes to agriculture and farming that they're trying to promote. Yeah it's super sad in a lot of interviews I'll end up having to say like

29:50 Have so many toxins in our environment that you can hide behind anything the telecommunications industry can say well emf isn't harmful. Because if you can't peg harm to that, because it could be the cancer causing chemicals out there. It could be the terrible water quality. It could be so many things now it could be the shot. There's so many things and you just know that it's a toxic world in general an all those various industries are so happy to hide in the ambiguity of that whole big toxic soup that we live in all the time It's really sad but one good thing is that I do think more and more people are becoming aware of it, you know. And a whole can of worms to get into on the back of that very conversation which is this kind of dove tail for me with the transgender conversation was the endocrine disrupting chemicals. It kind of blew me away how...I mean

30:43 I'm not going to say that proves that's the real reason, but when i started realizing that every single one of these prolific chemicals that we somehow all seem to know are bad but we don't stop from being everywhere are all endocrine disrupting chemicals. And that includes what's happening with these shots they're giving, but we're talking about glyphosate which is...I mean this is the crazy part for me as people don't talk about this anymore. Glyphosates in the air you're breathing it's in the clothes you're wearing right now its literally everywhere and thats not hyperbole But we talked about dioxin, that's one. PFAS? That's one. I mean everything! It's really kind of crazy. Benzene and all these things that are in your sunscreens or childrens toys are wildly toxic. They know all this stuff and so people don't know it. Endocrine disrupting chemicals just simply means if that's your endocrine system. That's your hormone production And based on peer-reviewed science has been shown to cause dysphoria, gender dysphoria Not to say that is everything but its provable So scary you know

31:36 It is. And I hate to just make the same points that every podcast makes, but we don't allow kids to make any life-changing decisions. But all of a sudden this one, we have to go with whole hog and go through all the surgeries and give them puberty blocking chemicals. Again very convenient for one industry big pharma that loves this kind of stuff and new markets are popping up on. the number of these gender reassignment facilities, like they went from two or three in America to now 30. It is very concerning and so I actually went and started listening to people who are detransitioners or people who have gone through this process and are now adults. And they talk about it as a hell! They talk about constant pain

32:29 infections from the surgeries there sterilize imagine being eleven years old and be asked the question if you ever wanna have a family you have no idea if u ask me at twenty one i might've said now i don't think so and now in the soup so. It's really crazy to allow these people, these kids to make decisions and just have a whole apparatus that goes along with it. You're also seeing schools circumvent parents' authority over their kids and there are cases now I don't know how widespread they are but you hear about one or two really

33:05 Extreme stories near like is that a representation of the whole or not liar but there are cases where. A kid decides they're now trans they tell their school about it and they tell their school that dad keeps calling me a girl when i wanna be a boy, Let's call Child Protective Services. And then that kid is caught up in the system and then dad can only have supervised visits, and if he misgenders his kid they yank him out of there and that's considered abuse or some kind of offense? It's crazy! Again it gets a lot of attention in the podcasting world I don't really know how big of an issue it is but its clearly bigger than it was 10 years ago

33:49 Yeah, I mean i'm going to be real with you. I will go off on this for the next four hours if you like because So just there are every possible facet of this You could ask me and I'd only tell you that i'm educated on it Maybe not more than everybody else But this has been something that I didn't intend To really focus on as much as I have but The moment that I open this door And I would say this for anybody that cares about the truth. You can't put this toothpaste back in the bottle man It's hard and this is I've always talked about my work in this field in general and how I feel like I'm kind of especially made for it. You know, I'm able to kind of shut this off at night This has been one of those topics that I've been having a really hard time turning off you know And so the point is from my experience It's a huge problem

34:32 Look, I'm all about liberty and personal freedom. If you're a grown adult and you want to make your choices, if you want to make these decisions for your body that's up to you. Sure! I have my opinions about that but that is irrelevant to your own personal choice right? You can do that to your body the moment this becomes something that is affecting children or that you are telling me I have to act or say certain things Done. Not happening, right? That's my personal freedom even if I agree with you! I'll still push back on that because it should be my choice You know so when i started digging into this I very early found out a few basic things I'll start with this It is already being dismantled to a large degree which is very positive to see A lot of the places are now being shut down that's not to say it won't ramp back up but So that's good based on what your saying its already starting to come back down

35:14 I saw the explosion of this and all of a sudden realized there's no evidence to back it up. The standards of care they're putting forward come from a lot of these groups that are just simply arguing that it benefits the mental health of a person doing this with basically only observational personal perspective, and I'm not going to say that it can't you know it's grown-ups choice and maybe that does benefit them them. The point is, though you can prove that they don't know that because there's been no long-term studies. They don't know whether this has any long term effects other than things we do know what the craziest part is We already know it does cause infertility It does cause very serious bone problems constant infections I mean it's crazy how much they know strokes all sorts of problems That's coming directly from WPATH which is the leading group on this in the world Here's another crazy point three people from that group

36:02 have already resigned from the board. They still work with the company in protest because verbatim, the sloppy treatment with children that the president elect of the leading group in the world said that that's like 2022 and this just got stronger after that So my point was when it started becoming focused on children you start aiming your advertising children you start arguing that they can decide for themselves and here's another part of this i just keep going one parts the next is in school there telling these children you can just decide. You're not sick, you could just decide tomorrow that your woman or man thats up to you but its no true though because what happens if the next step is ok well then here's puberty blockers. Well wait a minute their on the record saying we know that causes infertility but thats the child choice thats actually their stance

36:47 So that's crazy they don't think that the pushback on the community right but then here is the biggest problem to get any of that treatment. Puberty blockers, hormone treatments all which have dangerous side effects. The doctor literally has to write down genital dysphoria There is no legal avenue to get this treatment without being diagnosed with a disorder The whole community says that's not true So now what happens is you've got this middle ground of people that are going just write it down Just write it down anyway because they need the help so you have doctors who are writing down diagnoses They don't agree with because they're being pressured by this momentum I mean this is just terrifying man and so these children, and then to your point. And i'll end with this if you like all forever the chill the de-transitioning side of this is overwhelming The stories from these children being convinced that they had a problem and some people are like turns out I was just gay Turns out I was just lesbian right? Turns out I was schizophrenic One of these whistleblowers from one of these groups has already told them in their own hospital They were funneling in people from the psychiatric ward

37:43 ADHD, I mean and these people were like not even saying that gender dysphoria. They're just going oh you have a psychiatric problem this will help you hmm? I mean that's disgusting man And so yeah It just it's gotten out of control and thank God people are speaking up and starting to see more of it But it's ruined these kids I mean they will never be the same and that's what a lot we're telling us when they speak out about it Yeah, it's super sad then there's that thing where dr.. Peter McCullough noticed that during pride month the symbol, the rainbow symbol was overlaid with the autism symbol. And then he started looking into why that would be in a large percentage of transitioners are autistic which to me that's even another degree of like how much permanent decision making should you be making? You know should you really be going under the knife here's multiple factors that show

38:36 Maybe you have some cognitive difficulties, but people are putting you in a pipeline where they're making a lot of money off of you and it's sick. It really is! And I wanted to switch gears to a couple other things because you cover so much stuff and there's a lot of stories, some international that i really don't know what to make up them and I want to get your take but one of those things is the military coup in Nigeria. Several takes about what's going on there. I've read that the president who was ousted was a longtime Western puppet, that wouldn't surprise me but talk to us about how you've been looking into these events and the real reasons for this happening in Nigeria?

39:19 Well, I would say that there's probably a lot of people like Freddy Pantone. I would recommend you check out his work and he has been on this from day one but you know i've done some research on this pretty extensive more than probably most but still one of the probably lesser ones i've looked into in larger scale what i look into but for my perspective and with the evidence seems to show for me is that this was a continent of people that are starkly aware of what's been done to them over the last, you know long before the United States. So for people understand that long before that but they have been colonialized and robbed and raped and pillaged for their entire existence almost And so now these people are suddenly feeling enough momentum to push back on that You know? And so like Sarah Abdallah makes a great point just about one of these resources They have a GDP in Nigeria nine billion dollars But export forty billion dollars in gold

40:09 Like, it's everywhere. And France who is the leading kind of colonializer of this location has massive gold reserves in their own vaults but have no gold mines to speak of you know and it's like they're being manipulated right? So from what I can see this a popular movement of people that are trying to take back from the puppets now that doesn't mean that the people in power now are any better Like that's what I wanted to caution people about. Military junta is often take power maybe with good intentions, but then don't really relinquish that power. That's typically how these things will go the people will support it because it's better than it was before but very quickly escalates into the same you know and then somebody in that very same control structure then gets offered something great by the West and all starts back over again. You know? That's where I worry about But from what I can tell most people seem to be wildly supportive of what they're doing. You have specifically Mali

41:00 Burkina Faso who are militarily backing what they're doing. They said, look if anybody comes in we're gonna back you militarily and we're going to help you fight this you have ECOWAS, which is this it's kind of like the OAS. It's an organization of Western control entities that act like they're there for democracy in my opinion and they're the ones that have been threatening action so ultimately what it seems like right now if they're refusing to back down after sanctions and military threats I haven't seen any military action just yet we have seen France step in and according to Nigeria's government release terrorists they had in lockdown just released them into the area which by the way what I think is always about you can prove France or the US being occupying Nigeria has not reduced the extremist atmosphere. In fact, same thing in Syria or elsewhere we need to be real what's really going on guys they're the ones funding and arming controlling most of these entities so they can reap all the benefits of the area and keep these people under their thumb something I think Michael Hudson points out is over history what they do with these countries is create a situation where they force them to only export what's useful for the West

42:02 And they force them to import everything that needs survive so they end up in a situation where they don't even have the setup to grow food they need and what happens is when there's a situation like this, i just go oh yeah well you're gonna start now right and thats what their essentially trying to do but they have support from other countries. You can see this kind of waterfall area in africa people that are changing their stance and pushing back into the West. Now, the problem is you have Russia in some people's minds making agreements with all these people right now Russia is helping Nigeria. So from West perspective they go oh no that's bad because Russia taking over but here's the difference I see all these governments as equally concerning there are just trying to control our lives for one reason or another but it doesn't stop Russia from essentially playing the counterbalance to what the US is doing so which you could frame a good guy if you want but still this case they're making an agreement

42:49 Will give you this x y and z and will take this now i guarantee that's the benefit russia guarantee maybe they're even strong arming a bit but it's agreement, shaking hands are signing documents that's not what happening with the west coming in there oh yeah terrorist get out of the way your you know we'll do we want to take one. So ultimately I think this is a momentum like that it's happening all around the world the western us in particular power is receding and their acting out irrationally to try to compensate for that Frankly, whether it's a US-centric perspective or not. I think it's a good thing to watch the kind of power... No one entity should have enough power to be able to make what happened over the last hundred years happen. You know what I mean? And that's why glad to see but we'll have to wait and see how plays out. Yeah, I think that's a really great analysis. The Western boot has been on the neck of Africa for a long long time pretty much since we've known it was there right and

43:41 It's crazy because there are a lot of people who get basically racist saying, well they have more resources than anyone in the world. Why hasn't Africa ever been able to lift itself up? Well because the structures that are foisted upon them are Western structures and they put Western puppets in these positions, sham elections. You can't really get out of the situation and it's a real harvest and I agree that it does seem as if this is just another move on the big chess board between China Russia and the West And they probably saw an opportunity here and they threw a little fuel on the fire to take a stab at the West and their interests

44:25 From what I read, France mines uranium there which they use for over 60% of their current power supply and there's also a Chevron pipeline project there where it's supposed to be giving oil to a lot of European nations. I think that's why the US is more interested in the pipeline in particular Right. And given the Nord Stream pipeline, then you could fold that in and you destroy one pipeline? You got to have another one. So then Russia comes in and says well we're going to disrupt this pipeline for you guys since you disrupted our pipeline. These are the games that are going on a lot of its energy games it's a big shake up The Great Reset as they say and it's embarrassing that the news will present you something just as a face value situation and ignore

45:12 all this context, the context that the alternative media is super focused on. That's why I wanted to ask you because I just think that your website is the strongest. It's made up of a team of journalists and some other ones who might have their finger more on this pulse but these are things coming from your website and we're lucky to have you out there Thank you man if i can have more points to that night your aspect of it and i mentioned that there's so many points did you know the uranium is a big one i mean thats obviously relevant everything going on for the whole world for that matter i think nigeria recognizes clearly russia recognizes that right but what interesting is hypocrisy at all like i would be willing to bet us that the us government

45:52 As much as people would be not happy with them, just simply said look we're there because we want the uranium. We were there because we want a pipeline and even just like that's better for our control if you think that means freedom right? But the point is they don't do that. They scream freedom and human rights and it's just nobody buys this anymore because their own actions, they show how this is not even remotely what they care about. And it's the hypocrisy point is so in this case you have a military junta that takes power away from somebody they claim was elected now It seems clear that wasn't even reality. This guy was clearly backed by the West and there people cried foul about the previous elections but what's funny is they don't care about that right? But over here in Bolivia we can have a literal military junta take power over an elected Evo Morales

46:37 they support that. Or like if Taiwan suddenly did one thing, they would support no matter what happened to Taiwan because they support Taiwan or how about the fact that the Donbass region declares independence goes through a referendum? They vote and the world all acknowledges but it's the point is they don't really care about freedom you know so it's embarrassing to watch them pretend like this isn't you know whatever the terms they use. It's a revolution one day or it's an overthrow of the next or it's a insurrection that's what he used because of course we're thinking January 6th! You gotta tie it back yeah this is silly And we should pull in Ukraine. Of course, that's getting a lot of attention clearly it's an ongoing proxy war with Russia and we sent the cluster bombs that are considered a war crime to a lot of people around the world. Then just the other day kim.com posted this according to the Russian defense minister NATO has assembled 360 000 troops in eastern Europe Poland is preparing to occupy western Ukraine and he adds

47:33 If NATO moves from a proxy war setting into a direct war with Russia, it will be World War III with all the devastating consequences. And he goes on to kind of hype it all up as really scary and yeah, it is tense but I never want to relish in the fear porn of at all. It might not go to level 11 but it is concerning and the thing that stuck out to me is the mentioning of Poland specifically because I had recently been reading about US ambassador to Poland being Mark Brzezinski, brother of Mika Brzezinski and son of Big Daddy Brzezinski. The global chessboard, Globalist Supreme. So that is a big red flag to me in terms of where would their next level operations operate through? Some place they control somewhere that where they have their people in place and that would be Poland. If they're going to poke the bear again and harder

48:32 That is scary because every next move could be that level jump to 11 and it could come to our doorstep. But what are your thoughts on the current state of the Ukraine crisis and where it seems to be going? Yeah, I agree with your general overview of there's a lot of fear porn, a lot of hype around. Let's put it this way. That's already what's happening, right? If you think for one second that Russia does not have got... Putin has said this openly he is very aware of this as a US run war like there is not I think the Times covered this It's on the record now according to Ukrainian officials that they're using Blackhawks flown by U.S personnel to fly in their teams into Russia to carry out assassinations of the generals

49:18 The US has personnel there with them on the ground how is that not involved like so it's all semantics of russia's not stupid they're very where the us has personal on the ground that they are involved so this idea that suddenly because. Open chest move like where this shows that nato's involved putin showing himself to be very, capable of restraint. That in Syria over and over after attacks that people argue he should have responded to, he didn't because I think if he was aware this is my opinion that's what they wanted right? They want the response right so i just don't think that's the case but at the end of the day you never know because this is very serious and my point is I think we're already at the level of World War III quite frankly I think we've been at that level for a long time directed at the American people but either way I think

50:02 It's very clear that this is a dynamic they're aware of, that they're still trying to push those red lines so that they get some kind of reaction. I tend to think it's bigger than just Ukraine but first just speaking of Ukraine i think the only way this goes away is if the US government backs away Any honest person has been made that very clear. That's not to take a side even, it's just simply to point out the only way this actually stops because what the US wants is not for this to stop they want to get what they want and then for it to stop It's the same thing I say in Syria we're not going to let anybody rebuild until we get what we want so you're hurting people Uh-huh, right? It's like until we get what we want. That's what they're saying you know so Russia has every right in my opinion to protect the people that wanted to be Donbass Crimea We can pretend all day long that those are coups and occupations But they're not they have hundreds of international observers They vote their referendums it's just so silly You know they denied like with Bolivia or with Venezuela every time people get elected They don't like

50:57 You know, so I think the problem is that people in Ukraine on all sides are suffering because of this. And if I had to guess it doesn't appear that Russia wants to do anything but protect that. But I don't know. I'm not as dumb as the corporate media pretend I know what he thinks you know? Yeah, I'm like you where I don't really frame it in terms of good guys and bad guys It's just a bunch of human beings and nations looking out for their best interests but the globalists are the most aggressive and Everything. I see shows that the West broke an agreement first with NATO and not having more NATO countries encircle Russia And so when you back somebody up into a corner

51:33 They react and this has been a fairly measured reaction. I've heard a lot of analysts saying that they expected Russian submarines to be all along the East Coast aimed at Washington DC, and that hasn't happened in over a year And it's not like they wouldn't be somewhat justified because even with the backdrop of Maui, we're looking at sending another 15 billion over there when people are starving. People are really struggling day to day so to see their tax dollars sent overseas for the military-industrial complex is pretty crazy. And then the news media's like, oh he's a psychopath Putin is a monster or cold hearted criminal and it's like well your framing of things isn't really matching the reality if you would have shown up with submarines on our east coast then that would have helped further your propaganda but at some point I think that

52:30 Americans need to wake up to the fact that war is not something to be played around with and you want a wave your ukrainian flag because you saw it on the tv and they told you to do it. You don't even really know what your supporting, Putin wants to shift that propaganda balance. Yeah, something could happen here at home that suddenly gets people to say whoa! You know wait a minute maybe we should take a step back Ukraine isn't the 51st state so let's chill out a little bit So I don't know when the left became so pro-war? I always considered myself on the left because throughout the 90s and early 2000s it was the anti war party but

53:12 obviously you just can't identify with either side because their ideology is on very shaky ground and it can be shifted and molded whenever they need to mold it. Yeah, they're all pro-war I think that's the crux of the point is that the government is pro war if you ever want to see them come together its almost always on war They may not even really be aware of that but I think thats the ultimate reality but the bigger thing for me So genuine, I mean remember he said you know denazify the area and that was oh my god it spun out of control despite the fact that you can show those very same outlets like 30 seconds before this started going. Oh my God there's Nazis in their everywhere and is so stupid right? And so what I really came to kind of synthesize this into its very clear

53:57 In my opinion, well let's put it this way. What I can prove is very clear then i'll give you why I think which I think is very obvious as well but you can prove that the CIA has been cultivating fascism in Ukraine since at the very least 1948 even before they call themselves a CIA right? This is on the record its called Project Aerodynamic I've shown the documents a hundred times. They worked with a guy named Michaela Libet, who was an actual Nazi war criminal. That's why when I use the term Nazi for some of these people, I literally mean associated with the Nazi party and then there are also neo-Nazis and so on but that is real term it is not just hyperbole This guy, Michael Lebed was literally a Nazi war criminal in Poland before ultimately when some conflict happened he was able to be shuttled away. The US government as they seem to do throughout history protected him They set him up in a company called Prolog A media company right? In Ukraine but in New York as well So then what did the Nazi War Criminal influence Americans with media in the early... What would this have been like 50's 60's As it grew into prominence The point was that was about creating fascism

54:59 Elements to use against the Soviet Union it's on the record it just like they did in Afghanistan with the mojave which became ISIS became Al Qaeda you know. And so in this case, they built this up. They used the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists OUN and that became the basis for the Azov movement. That's what this is today you could prove all of this now You can also prove that they up until recent times have been continuing to create this extremist group They were overlapping them with groups in the United States with groups in Italy The rise above movement Who is this dangerous neo-nazi group that's the actual arm of the movement in the US it documented the FBI wrote an article about this so the point is that was the group to became the beginning.

55:41 of the, they will not replace us, tiki torches Charlottesville. That was the rise above movement that you can literally tie back to the CIA which became the basis for all the white supremacy right wing MAGA all of it man and so I'm not saying there aren't extremists but you can clearly prove that and so the craziest part about this is the Ozov Movement in my opinion and this is where it gets into my opinion There's also provable points on this It was all about creating the illusion And thats why they were saying Nazis before it got kind of exposed That Russia was doing this. That Russia was seeding the Nazism into Ukraine and that Russia was then seeding it into the United States, and here's the craziest part... It was also meant to influence January 6th!

56:21 Because you can prove this they had a Ukrainian from the Ozov movement on the ground. He's pictured next to Jake with the horns and everything Literally screaming let's go in in Russian. Hmm. He's Ukrainian You could prove this and it's guys become kind of prominent in these discussions But the point is he's part of the Ozov movement He's here screaming things in Russian And the whole point was all of this was meant to be the white supremacist rising group that was tied back to the fact That Russia was building all this but then the moment when this got exposed It was like what Nazis? What do you mean that's not real with her only in Russia, you know But you can still see the clumsy patchwork of people in the corporate media trying to say The real Nazis are here and look they're even coming into the United States And but it just falls flat because you literally CNN will catch a Nazi salute by these people and it's like come on We can all see it. You know, but I think that it's crazy to see how that was developing then you could overlap that with

57:11 Biolabs in Ukraine and you know there's a really central role playing out in all this which is a lot for some people to digest But it's all sourced if you look at my website I've got, you know people hate that. Look on my website but I've got the source links to CIA documents You know, it's all right there. You can see all this stuff. It's crazy Yeah, it is. And that was really interesting just bringing it full circle thread through all the different agendas you're right they didn't really stick the landing there but It's clear that you can see how the pieces were looking to be framed and they just kind of abandoned the narrative Just broke it off into three separate agendas. Go ahead.

58:04 They're the ones literally saying they're going to do that and then aggressively just ethnically cleansing the Donbass region, right? I mean for 10 years now. And even the corporate media was reporting on this and then suddenly doesn't matter so if these are people that are calling for Russia support that vote to be a part of Russia. How do you not argue that Russia has an obligation to keep them safe from this crazy entity? And if US is over here going, here's 40 more billion dollars. Here's cluster munitions two people that are literally going we want to murder all of you It's like it's not hard to see and that shouldn't be taken as a siding with Russia point It's just each of the facts You know yeah Yeah, and the craziest part to me is that they have these

58:41 the rainbow flag wearing most liberal people in this country supporting it more than any other group. And it's like, you would be ideologically opposed to these people if you really knew the truth. It's such a crazy capture. It's almost like these guys are sitting in some think tank being like do you think we could do this? Like this would be very ambitious. Let's test our mind control and our Pavlovian training and our marketing and see if we can pull it off And sure enough, they can. So it makes me feel sometimes a little hopeless when their apparatus is that sophisticated for mind control but it's just sad because it seems like we're just living in two different realities—those who are looking at alternative media and those who are still stuck in the mainstream and you hear that their numbers are dwindling but

59:34 It just doesn't seem like that to me. It seems more like people are firmly planted in their camps and it's more so than some great awakening I mean, i want to be optimistic but i struggle to stay that way And...I guess i would ask you as this is coming to a wrapping up point What do you think the best thing for those who already get it? Because I'm sick of trying to wake up the friends and the family you know like a lot of us have probably tried to do for a couple years there in such a denial state it only makes him angry, it only causes more division and fighting. I think its better tactic to network with people who are aligned with you already do

1:00:21 get some of this? We saw a little that with COVID, with these kind of secret lists of businesses that would operate with the windows shut. I mean that was going on in my town so maybe that's the answer is finding those networks but what do you think are some of the best ways to protect ourselves and guard against what we see coming regardless of how many other people see it too?" Well i mean first and foremost just what we're doing here I mean it's hard to know whether we're reaching more people or that we're losing you know, whether the media is failing in the mainstream or not. My gut tells me that that's what's happening and i think that if at the very least

1:00:58 Whether we know or not, we know for sure that they wouldn't just give up. That as they fail it's going to get more and more intense I think that is a pretty commonly understood reality. They're not just gonna go okay fine you got us take me to jail its not gonna happen so they are gonna push back harder and on top of that their gonna increase their effort to manipulate and propagandize and divide people still listening to them So I think thats part of what happening im hoping anyway that be my positive outlook But I think there's been examples of the fact that like with the byvalent shots, an example often use where these are people that have been already taking all of the shots. And then we're just like no, we're done. We're not taking this next one and even though they were going you need it, you need it. And so it shows you that even those people were kind of like yeah OK something is going on here at the very least. I don't think I need that next one shot that X shot so just not listening to what they're being told. So that's a positive example but I do agree with what

1:01:53 And this is why I always point out, probably to the frustration of a lot of the audience but every point every time. The two party paradigm is the reason we can't get past this they know that and the problem as you have a lot of these screaming high level influencers on both sides that don't care about the truth they care about the team sport politics of it all right and they like the division they like to site things that make their side look good no myth things that don't do not know do that whether its career where they believe it's always gonna happen but the problem There's a lot of people that want to see through that, that sometimes can't. You know they kind of get pulled back into it but I do think what you're saying is right. That we're kind of settling back into some camp like the teams for politics is more reality TV for people than really seeking the truth. It's fun to watch these people argue or its fun just go I think it's direct energy weapons let's just make that case and scream until even though you don't know. And so there's a lot of that happening and I think thats a problem

1:02:49 But the only solution is more truth, more light. You know? The more we do this and I think we...I don't know at least it's in my mind It's not in me to give up. I'm going to keep doing this at all costs." Well I think you agree and that I think we are making a difference And I think that's why its getting so intense because were... I mean when was the last time you saw these kind of narratives discussions being had or I mean one thing stands out to me is the corporate media right now almost on daily basis is reacting to what we're doing I mean, think about how crazy that is. That never used to be the case! They're like having to go no wrong that's a liar like that never used to be how it worked and that shows you they're concerned about that so i don't know...I'd like end on positive note I think we are making that difference but question everything just keep doing what your doing

1:03:35 Indeed indeed well it's refreshing to talk to someone who I am on the same page with so many different things and have a guest who doesn't. Throw in a bible quote here and there or, slide in how important it is to get Trump reelected. These things where I just roll my eyes and like, okay on to the next point right? So it has been a serious treat Obviously Whitney Webb and Derek Brose do get a lot of attention in the alternative media space And that's one thing we could do maybe we all just need to move to Houston and get Derrick elected mayor Yeah But I did want to save a little bit of room here to maybe have you throw out some of the lesser known names that are on The Last American Vagabond team. Maybe people I should consider for interviews in the future, but talk to those listening about the journalists that you work with and their expertise.

1:04:31 Yeah, well you mentioned Derek, Derek Brose, Conscious Resistance, Whitney Webb and she runs the Unlimited Hangout. That's one thing I really pride myself on is that a lot of times people will work with others and kind of like...I actively promote and help wanting them to build their own things. And Derek has been around doing this long before me even so it's important for me that they don't feel like they have to stop doing what they're doing elsewhere. You know? I want that to be grown! We have Taylor Hudak who also has been doing this a long time She's right now working on a really important interview. Arne Burkhardt, if you're familiar he recently passed away very prominent calling out the DNA contamination and the issues with the injections and he recently passed away kind of under suspicious circumstances but that hasn't flushed out yet but his last interview live was with her so she has taken a lot of time making sure it is well done Matt Aret is new addition for the writers

1:05:24 I love Matt's work is so important. I think that, I don't agree with all of it and that's also the thing i pride myself on you know as long as your making factual conclusions are supported when I bring somebody on I'll tell them I want to write this or focus on that I say I want you cover what you think is important period It's kinda like the idea when you see somebody singing a song that you know somebody wrote for them, the passion is not there. But when you see somebody sing a song that comes from their heart, you just see it and feel it. And thats how I see with writings. Like I don't want them to cover story I want, you cover what you think is important. So Matt will talk about things from very interesting perspective and he breaks down and proves here are the side of material and yeah he may conclude something where I may have gone in different direction

1:06:08 I pride myself on that you know it's important that we're open to different perspectives what he really does kind of throw people for a loop and i love it challenges these concepts largely the right i would say today just. Yeah they jus freak out about his reframing of things and i think its important shake ourselves up in ask questions you know but were constantly trying to broaden out and bring new people in any one thing right now that were trying to do is Raise more kind of like consecutive like monthly funding because as you know probably as well everybody independent media is being attacked i've lost patriots and paypal's all sorts of things which is a huge part but more today than ever just the donation based models are suffering because people can't pay up fifteen hundred dollar energy bill.

1:06:51 Who can? It's ridiculous. And so I get that, but we're trying to kind of broaden this out because I want to not only continue to expand but I wanna maintain the level of work we're doing now as important because the truth is what... We don't have... We're not putting in ads or selling flashlights it's just there its free you know its a... As Noah Janda puts it value for value and I think that's really important and so I think what your doing is important and people should be supporting this kind of work wherever they can. Amen! Well, Ryan this has been a serious treat. I really value the work that you do and i hope we could do this again every so often because you're constantly covering the things that people need to know about before we go Do you have any other projects or big stories in the works that people should keep an eye out for? Or at least give them The links and a breakdown of the various shows you do Thank You man! And yeah, I'd love to join you again anytime let me know

1:07:46 The lastamericanvagabond.com is always the place to go, don't let the mediums out there whether it be Rumble or YouTube which Rumble you know two top backers Rumble happen to be BlackRock and Vanguard I don't know why everybody doesn't care about that but whatever platform B don't let them be the medium between us in our work like go through the website go to your website would directly to the source i was think thats important you'll find all the links to all the work we do recite everything all ways you can fund us and support us The Daily Wrap-Up is my show that I do. And the actually moving target actually came to an end, Rockfin decided they didn't want to do it anymore so be it but still do interviews the same way.

1:08:24 But yeah, just we continue to do a lot of work. We have that big interview coming and we might be stepping into doing the documentary soon. That's kind of up in the air. We're working this out with some other groups I don't want to throw it out too early but we have a lot of work coming man and we have a lot of new things we want to build and grow into The Pirate Stream in general that I do with Scott and Courtney Pirates for media is kinda like this new umbrella It's really new its gonna flesh out over the next couple years I would argue but something else were doing kinda building kinda like a coop of other groups and it's based on my idea of pirate streams, you know using other people channels to broadcast through with the pirate stations which I love. But yeah thanks for having me on man! I really enjoyed the conversation. I enjoyed it. Of course your work ethic is super impressive. I love this stuff you do and thanks for educating us in all these topics keep fighting a good fight and take care. Thank brother, you too

1:09:16 My, my, my what a show guys. Ryan Christian is certainly the man I'm glad we got to finally connect he's putting out so much content that i'm sure it was a big ask to get two hours of his time So I really do appreciate what he brought today Now let's talk a little more about the Maui fires This is a classic THC problem When you only do five shows a month and you have three or four days of a production pipeline It's hard to talk about breaking news stories and because I never want to miss big things that should be included in the coverage, I tend to wait longer than most to get into a story so we can let the dust settle and make sure we have all of the relevant info. And Ryan did bring some really good stuff! The Directed Energy Directorate is a great find

1:10:06 I'm already seeing fact-check false articles circulating saying that facility is actually in New Mexico. Eh, not really because if you go to their home website it clearly states that this directed energy division is a network of facilities not just a single one. And in the same paragraph, it names the Maui facility as part of this tight network that falls under the umbrella of directed energy directorate weapons research I also think the land grab is probably the biggest reason for this rich elites trying to take over ancestral land that people just weren't willing to sell without being forced and still might not sell

1:10:51 But the news is already circulating that the government is trying to get their hands on it. And 30 days ago, the Hawaiian government announced a Build Without Barriers program basically trying to get at that land anyway so the locals were pissed about just that program from what I've read and then thirty days later there's a fire... ...that hits where most of the holdouts were But there are actually a few other things I didn't learn until later in the day after we recorded this interview. And, uh...I was actually booked on Tinfoil Hat with Sam Tripoli so i was going even further out of my way to dig deeper into all the various threads and angles people were pulling at out there and if you want to hear me and Sam going over all those threads for basically two hours listen to that episode on his Rockfin channel it's full video as well for people who want that

1:11:46 But the biggest red flag that I learned about just after hanging up with Ryan was that the Maui police chief, John Pelletier was sworn in December 15th 2001. And he is the first non-Hawaiian to lead at the Maui Police Force. And I kept saying in that interview with Sam that when you're trying to determine if something is orchestrated or fishy, you got to look at deviations from the norm. I think he actually titled the episode that and this is a big one Now, I haven't gone and looked at every Maui police chief down the line and checked out their family tree. But I've seen several different sources saying this is the first non-native to ever have that position. And if that's true well why did such a thing happen? Is it possible that they wanted to make sure they had their guy in there? I'd say so. Who is Police Chief John Pelletier?

1:12:40 Well, apparently he was commander of the tourist district that includes the Las Vegas Strip during the Harvest Festival shooting. You can find mainstream articles that were covering John's swearing in as police chief and they weren't shy about adding this to his resume but that should raise some eyebrows to the skeptical right? It's a very curious thing maybe they wanted someone that they know can keep their mouth shut about orchestrated events And to get weirder with it, just as a side note. We've already been over the fact that Jason Aldean was on stage at the time of that shooting and he happens to have the exact Jack Ace Of Spades tattoo As if it was lifted from the image on The Vegas card from the esoterically accurate Illuminati Card Game Which in that card game there's actually also a Hawaiian Land Grab card believe or not

1:13:37 The card's just called Hawaii, but then in the description of what the card does it says something to the effect of get plus one if the land is controlled by the government. So take that for what it is I've always found that on-the-nose symbolic match to be really eerie and it comes up a lot with that card game But when someone participates in a ritual, they tend to get rewarded. And I see this whole controversy over his song Try That In A Small Town to be such a reward. Also it's something in the zeitgeist right now running parallel with this Maui Fires thing so you make a manufactured controversy

1:14:22 So that it amplifies coverage of this song that a lot of people just wouldn't even notice. And then more folks check it out and suddenly its 10 million views on YouTube and top of the charts! To me, that seems like a pat on the back for his participation in that event. I think thats what we're seeing though its speculation of course. I know that esoteric stuff are more my bag than Ryan's so maybe its good im only bringing up this stuff after I don't want to sully his good name with my wild speculation. But, I also just want to touch on a tweet from health ranger Mike Adams if we're looking at those deviations from the norm to see if something else seems off and I would say yeah how about these points? He says evidence keeps mounting that the Lahaina fires were deliberately shaved number one the warning sirens did not sound where they turned off on purpose

1:15:19 Two, the local fire department was ordered off the fire claiming it was contained. Three, the fire was still burning though with 70 mile an hour winds known to be approaching Four, emergency responder resources were withheld from Lahaina as the fires raged This is something I also heard from a guy named Kai Something He's a famous surfer in the area He said straight up on his social media that resources were being withheld because they weren't government approved. Well, that's a big problem! People need water and people need food if you intentionally withhold that stuff to me it sounds like an attempt to kill off more people this is where it gets really dark he also says five local schools were canceled to make sure children were at home without their working parents

1:16:14 As a result, hundreds of children were burned alive like a mass child sacrifice ritual. He also says there's a massive cover-up right now about how many children were burned alive and this kind of jives with what Ryan said about nerfing that death toll by a factor of 10 Apparently also I read that the fire hydrants were dry when they went to use them and then i've seen counterpoints from conventional people say well, that's not a conspiracy like they weren't shut off it's just because they run on an electrical system. Well yeah that's the conspiracy because that's not normal! And it's just another example of how this whole energy switch is never going to work as designed and is actually intended to create chaos in situations just like this

1:17:04 Everyone's heard the term if it ain't broken don't fix it well there fixing a lot of our energy infrastructure is conveniently breaking at very key moments like this we also have all the celebrity homes that were untouched. Oprah jeff bezos lady gaga bill gates Will Smith and Julia Roberts all have homes in Maui. Oprah has bought up another 800 acres recently, making over 1,000 acres in total." And this was an interesting detail—people were speculating about the underground tunnels in Maui and there was a CNN article that was written to mock conspiracy theorists over this speculation

1:17:46 But even it says, interestingly Oprah who has a private road on the island that she alone uses to travel was opened in 2019 when a similar wildfire took place. So there's an example of a previous fire in that area benefiting the rich and what do you mean similar fire? In 2019 I thought this was like a once-in-a-lifetime climate change event Anyway, that article is a major gaslight if I've ever seen one but that covers a lot of the extra stuff that i've seen. Obviously $700 per household is nothing offer designed to be the lowest number they thought they could get away with

1:18:27 And also, my wife sent me a screenshot of a book on Amazon. So the fire started on 8-8 maybe an esoteric number and on 810 Amazon makes available a book called Fire & Fury The Story of the Maui Fire and its Implications for Climate Change The description of the book says this book chronicles the events from August 8th to August 11 But it's publication date was a day before And that's not super crazy. It could just be someone trying to capitalize on the news when it's hot by slapping a book together, but because it frames it as a climate change thing right in the title I have to include it as a narrative control element that seemed ready-to-go, as they say—something we've seen before. Police Chief John Pelletier also encouraged people with missing family members to submit their DNA to help identify loved ones

1:19:24 I thought that was odd too, given that we just saw another disclosure in an elite stage panel saying the tech is there to target and kill people based on their specific genetics. So in the same 48 hours I hear this suspect police chief saying hey did you survive this tragedy? Make sure you send us your DNA! What so you don't forget to clean up the rest of the mess? Hmm Obviously I'm going way out there with that, but it's not a common thing I hear in tragedies so i'm just noting it. But all that said, I'm glad we packed a lot of other topics into this show with Ryan! I certainly hope we can make regular visits from him a thing and to do that I need you guys to shower him in praise Let him know he was heard and appreciated so that he knows its worth his time to do it again

1:20:15 People often ask me where I get my news. Well, the conspiracy subreddit is a big source as are other subs like Conspiracy2 and Conspiracy No Poll No Politics which i think was started by our buddy John Lebon but Mike Adams the Health Ranger is also usually pretty quick and let it be known that The Last American Vagabond is always right up there when it comes to places I go to get the alternative take on big stories...and you should too! So big thanks to him. Ryan is active on Twitter, so if you are there as well give him a shout! I would much rather you do that than review this show or like the show...I don't need a feel-good ego boost. I need to make sure high level informative guests want to come back in the future so i can make the best show I can make and the rest sorts itself out

1:21:06 So I learned a lot today on a variety of topics. Also let it be known that Ryan and Last American Vagabond recently won a pretty important award, the Laureate Serena Shim Award for Uncompromised Integrity in Journalism! Much respect for that too. And I do appreciate that he does it all on a value-for-value model. It's very impressive. I've mentioned before how I like that model far more than sponsorships and ads but it just doesn't work for THC Because when we tried it early on, big donors were trying to steer and select my interview choices. But the way a show like No Agenda is structured or a wide-ranging news site like Ryan's... Big donors don't really have the same effect And maybe these big donors were just being kind to me but when a couple of grand comes in with a guest list and I Don't bite and then it doesn't come back

1:22:03 You can see how it made me feel like some shadow puppeteers were trying to get their hooks into me at a time when I really, really needed that money. So I did plus instead and I decentralized my income across the listener base and I give them something in return when they contribute rather than just asking And I don't ask you to take generic Viagra or sign up for some therapy session, or all the weird stuff some of these other podcasters are doing now that I wouldn't be proud of. But everyone needs a funding model and this is ours! I'm also going to give Ryan 500 bucks for the great work he does. Fuck it. Let it circulate. If you like THC and want that second hour of this and all the other shows, it's just 8 bucks. Signup in your show notes or at TheHigherSideChats.com

1:22:54 If you sign up through the Patreon, you can also use PayPal and you can now listen to THC Plus on Spotify through that Patreon system. Also spoiler alert I'm going to be moving into a new membership management platform for PLUS in about 60-90 days And it will also open up Spotify for PLUS For all members Which...I really don't care about but i can see the numbers of where people listen and the data do not lie And it seems like that will probably be a new feature that moves the needle for a lot of listeners. So if you're super hungry for that, sign up through Patreon and get it now or just wait a bit because it is coming either way. It's all the same two hour interviews so you're not missing anything one way or another

1:23:44 But in this Plus Show with Ryan, we talked about Alpha Gal Syndrome and Tick Bioweapons. New information about the jab and its damning effects Charles Lieber and the Technocracy Apple's Brainwave Reading Patent new tech to read your visual cortex mapping homes and tracking bodies movements within them using Wi-Fi routers and a lot of other branches on the technocracy tree. Some mind-blowing stuff, really interesting don't miss it! You can also check the THC YouTube and social media accounts for some video clips that get made from these episodes now including clips from plus parts of the show And I got to apologize to Plus members for my dumb cat Harvey i'm so hard on guests who have background noise

1:24:38 cultivate two hours of silence. It's very unprofessional, and then here I am with a wailing cat in this interview." But really my wife is the unsung hero of THC she at nine months pregnant drags the little one out of the house every time i record in the Florida heat so that I always have absolute quiet but on this day The door to where the cat box is kept in the laundry room was closed and I didn't realize that so one of my cats was just wailing and going nuts walking in an out of the room. It was unusual behavior, when I got off the call I could see why So sorry little buddy Sorry listeners My cats are usually quiet as long they can walk in and out of a room That's something different Anyway I've been talking for awhile Let me hit the calendar and we'll wrap it up

1:25:32 We got August 25th, Crescent City California. September 2nd High Springs Florida. September 14 LA. September 16 Mechanicsburg Pennsylvania. September 22 Alamosa Colorado and September 30 Columbia Missouri If you heard a mention of a town near you go to highersidemeetups.com To get the details on the events and RSVP make some new local friends It's a beautiful thing and you can do it before the next lockdown comes around because there are already rumors circulating. But that's it for me, big thanks to Ryan let him know and I'll see you soon with the next one! I've done my part your move directed energy fire starters toxic train derailment dioxin spreaders and engineers of these slow and steady breakdown of everything your fucking move Have a drink in the smoke

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