Robert Frederick | Sir Francis Bacon, The Shakespeare Project, & The Power Of Propaganda

00:04 The planet's puppet masters almost surely have a plan There's clearly maybe something there beyond the realm of man And until you've thoroughly tested every last close-tested view I find the more you think, you know The less you really do Eee without THC Cause we know they're lying to us Just don't know to what degree Where would THC the higher side chats show Rick Carlwood

00:45 Rock me like a hurricane, people. From the Sunshine State I'm Greg Carlwood and we know that every so often the things we think we know about history in the human story are upended by strange discoveries and unexplainable artifacts from giant underground stone complexes in a never-ending string of new megalithic sites to mysterious maps of antiquity and relics that defy the craftsmanship of their time Even the figures of the early British Empire, the largest in our known human history are glossed over with plenty of questions yet to be fully answered. Including the full depth of John Dee's magical work, the radical scope of influence Sir Francis Bacon had and even the true identity of Shakespeare, the world's most famous playwright by far is still a mystery too many

01:29 Add in the stories of the Cathars, the Knights Templar, The Network Of Secret Societies and Masonic Lodges, strange rites and rituals, bizarre coded documents, even places like Oak Island. And it starts to feel like we barely know anything about how we ended up here Well today's guest robert frederick felt similarly and sought out to solve some of these puzzles to his own satisfaction through the deep level research he's done spiraling out from his study of sir francis bacon the subject of this podcast, the hidden life is best francis bacon and the nasty english empire which you refer to as the greatest story never told about the most influential man who ever lived.

02:06 You can find his blog, podcast, Patreon and more at thehiddenlifeisbest.com And it's a pleasure to have him here The Sir Francis Bacon Biographer Shakespeare Identity Discoverer and Hidden History Revealer Robert welcome to the higher side Thanks, Greg. It's great to finally meet you! Yeah nice to talk to you man when you reached out regarding your research I was pleasantly surprised because i was just thinking about how it was time to revisit some of this material the influence of Sir Francis Bacon alone is pretty mind-boggling even within official history on top of the other things we might want to add in by the time this is done and it's nice when guests are also listeners that's just icing on the cake

02:50 and just so people know what we're getting into and how this became your thing break us in you say it started with a powerful synchronicity what's the story there. The synchronicity that started it all had to do with a podcast. I was listening to, no actually it was a video by Michael Wan about Susquehanna River alchemy and I was talking about the Susquehanna River which is a river I know very well because I went to college on it and I had no idea that it emptied into the Chesapeake Bay

03:28 And then when he mentioned that Francis Bacon was involved with Jamestown, I just went like what? That too because I was sniffing around Francis Bacon because I was all about the British Empire being the cause of most of the problems in the world. in my journey of why is the world such a mess when 99% of the people I meet on many travels and occupations are decent, fair-minded give the other guy a fair shake type of people reasonably intelligent. What's the story here? And kind of solution oriented guy realized like solutions are rarely implemented because they want patents they don't really want solutions they want profits

04:20 And I just was honing in on the British Empire. And somehow, I don't remember how it became Francis Bacon maybe something to do with science and scientism which I was also really into. It's very clear to me that science was the new religion. Then he mentioned Francis Bacon as part of Jamestown and I thought whoa okay great episode on Susquehanna River and tying it into Paris, and ISIS and all this stuff. And I immediately emailed a friend of mine, a college friend who's a history guy. He's not a conspiracy guy but he really knows his history. And I was just saying hey man, Susquehanna River, Francis Bacon, English Empire, Paris, Susquehanna River, Francis Bacon, English Empire, Francis Bacon... You know, I mentioned Francis Bacon at least three times. And I zip off the email

05:21 And I turn and pick up this book, I had just randomly thrown on my bed that I had found on my bookshelf. You know what? I never ever looked at this book. I probably bought it on the street for 50 cents in the 90's when you could do that in New York City. And I picked up this book at random. Okay let me just check this out and I opened the book at random And to the back of the book, for some unknown reason. I don't know if you do that with something you just open a book at random start reading and three quarters of the way down on the right hand page at the back of the book my eyes fell on two words and those words were Francis Bacon. Dun dun duuuun! And now it's like well what's the name in this book? I didn't even know the name in the book. I turned the book over... The book is called The Roots Of Coincidence

06:20 Boom by a man named Arthur Kessler who wrote about the occult, but he also wrote about politics He's famous. I think I never read it for coming up with the whole idea of the Khazars the mass conversion Of the Kazar's right has Aryan Empire to Judaism in the 8th century something like that? I'm not that familiar with that theory Well you know it's just the idea that a lot of the old jewish banking families are actually under tighter ethnic banner because our in banner and they kind of operate within the larger group of the jews and when conspiracy researchers.

07:06 Come to the conclusion that it's all the jews are really not being specific enough to kazarian banking dynasties and bloodlines that are obscuring. Their own story and then i get send a user and how the bible in all the old religions like you never ever do use re, Especially not to your own kind and the whole world is run on fractional reserve banking and interest And well, we're gonna get to that because Francis Bacon surprise surprise had something to do with that but Kessler wrote about all this stuff in this book was about the science of telepathy and trying to talk about psi power and Studying it scientifically. I think it was written in the 70's if I'm not mistaken

07:54 And I thought, wow that's a double coincidence and why did my eyes fall on Francis Bacon? The book was not about Francis Bacon. They just quoted him at the end as somebody who believed in the magicness of the world sort of he really didn't and i thought well you know what I've got to look into Francis Bacon! My life completely changed Yes on that note to quote your email pitch you said what i've uncovered is mind blowing. It's essentially the source of most of our ls the origin of globalism the origin of a surveillance state modern capitalism and communism the origins of scientism in the world fastest and maybe biggest religion,

08:40 The rose a christian craze the origin of modern free masonry and the inspiration for the english empire in short william shakespeare it's all traceable back to philosopher francis bacon officially. The father of modern science and yes it's been rumored for four hundred years that he is the real william shakespeare well, the shakespeare story alone you also say is fascinating but it goes way deeper And clearly that is a good setup. Talk to us about some of these things that you've uncovered along the way, that you think other researchers have missed because this is looked at by a lot of people but there are a lot of different conclusions people come to about it? Well when I decided to look into bacon and I was just continually astonished at what I found. It's just more and more and more

09:34 So, I'm not original on the Rosicrucians. He's rarely fingered as the father of modern Freemasonry but he is. The main thing where I think I get original is A.) why did they do this Shakespeare hoax? Not just that it was a hoax but really why and B.) Francis Bacon was heavily involved with espionage his entire life since the age of 15 and probably trained prior to that because his first mission was when he was 15. So most Francis Bacon researchers completely whiff on the espionage angle, which I think is absolutely central to his life. And he is responsible for military intelligence. What's it called? The Queen Secret Service MI5, MI6

10:30 It all started at that time period, this man named Francis Walsingham gets the credit for it. He was officially head of intelligence for Queen Elizabeth—fascinating guy—and it was an era of unbelievably tense mistrust and constant spying on each other. And it was still semi-feudal so all these lords and dukes and earls had their own intelligence services And nobody trusted anyone from the Protestant Catholic angle, but also the English crown had changed hands so many times over the last few centuries. As I say in the podcast all you really needed was a couple hundred well-armed men and move on to king and you could become King assuming you had a bloodline claim to the crown. So it was very uncertain time

11:33 And I contend that modern espionage was born right then, right there continuing through to this day. And then it's tied with Shakespeare because all these guys Francis Walsingham had his own acting troupe from the get go. Francis Walsingham participated in building the very first theaters in London because actors make great spies and great spies are by necessity great actors on stage 24-7. One mistake, it's not a bad night! It's the end... you're done." So really the espionage angle is probably one of the most original parts of my research and then Shakespeare fits in with the espionage angle and this I think gets missed but there's mainstream

12:32 scholarship that supports it now, and that's the Shakespeare Project as I call it was meant for social engineering. Was mean to mold the English people into a nation that could build an empire and become an empire very consciously, very knowingly like this is kind of depth of knowledge that Francis Bacon had because he had essentially read everything printed up to that point from the ancient Greeks through the ancient Romans, through probably Middle Ages philosophy and people like Aquinas and stuff. But especially the ancient Greeks in the ancient Romans they really adored both of them. And what I contend is that he was really the world's first psychologist consciously as he wrote He wanted to take all of knowledge as his province

13:37 He wrote that in a letter to his uncle, William Cecil II, most powerful person in the kingdom. Also part of the espionage wing and that meant knowledge of the individual and knowledge of the individual as part of a group. And that is largely what Shakespeare is I think its strength is in it's psychological portrayals people so I think that's really where I get original Interesting interesting yes and the shakespeare authorship question is quite a rabbit hole on its own it's the official position of academia that there is no mystery william shakespeare. Of stranton on avon avalon sometimes i see at avalon and avon but,

14:26 The official story is he's exactly who we said the is just an average guy of his time and place who was extremely talented. And any doubt around his accomplishments it's just classes by thinking that a common man couldn't be capable such great works, but let's be real this is the time when only the upper crust could read and write most people living in poverty A lot of his plays are about royalty and the inner workings of the inner circles that a commoner wouldn't really know too much about. And even mark twain said quote so far as anybody actually knows and can prove shakespeare of stratford on avon never wrote a play in his life,

15:11 All the rest of his vast history, as furnished by the biographers is built up course upon course of guesses inferences theories conjectures and Eiffel Tower of artificialities rising sky high. Well I mean if Mark Twain said that who am I to argue? But talk to us about some of the other reasons to just doubt that this guy was the author of the plays. Okay First, just let me mention because it crossed my mind. That was Bacon's first myth. One of his loves was the ancient myths. He knew what they meant psychologically and he knew what they meant as allegories—he wrote a whole book on it—and this was his first myth, the rags-to-riches nobody to somebody myth of the commoner genius which is funny because he hated commoners and then course it's in the plays. And the plays would not have worked if people had known that

16:09 royalty or nobility had written them. They would have been read completely differently, much different eye." So the hoax was perpetrated for a reason not because nobility or royalty couldn't write plays that was frowned upon—that's not the reason. The reason is because they would not have worked as social engineering at all if it was known who really wrote them So the reason we know, and this came from another podcast. This guy named Alan Green... Yeah yeah he's been here before I was going to bring him up! Yeah i was listening in the car and he ran through all the things about Shakespeare not a single shred of a single manuscript exists in Shakespeare's handwriting not one shred of original manuscripts

17:01 Right, and no letters. You know remember this is a time when the only communication really was letters so the history that we've constructed is based on people's correspondences you don't have a single letter ever unearthed from Shakespeare to anyone or from anyone to him Exactly there was one written to him but it was never opened possibly because they found out he couldn't read There's no evidence he could read or write the sum total of writing F6 signatures. They're all wildly different, it looks like he couldn't even handle a pen. And three of those signatures are on the will? Or maybe four of them? Three or four of them were on his last will and testament which contains no books. Books were very expensive. He didn't seem to own any books. His own daughter signed her marriage certificate with an X. His daughter was illiterate

17:56 There's not one diary entry from any other writer that says, hey I was talking to Will last night about Hamlet. He was really struggling with that third act. Never! Not once. In fact a woman named Diana Price decided to dig down and confront the argument of well we don't know anything about any of the writers from The Tudor Era which is an attempt at a defense why there is zero evidence And she dug in and she spent years overturning every scrap of paper relating to Shakespeare, which has already been done. This is now two or three hundred years of desperate searching for all evidence relating to his biography since that became a thing which didn't really become a thing until like the early 1700's about 100 year after he died. So that kind of scholarship just didn't exist

18:53 Plus, they went through a civil war. Plus he just wasn't that famous yet." And she concluded that we have direct primary document evidence for all the other writers that they were playwrights either in the form of manuscripts or receipts for payment or quotations from other people that they were writers, that they talked to them about writing this direct evidence for all of them and the only one there's no direct evidence for none zero zilch is William Shakespeare And her name is Diana Price, and there's a half-hour YouTube video of her. Just type in Diana Price Shakespeare and the book is Shakespeare's Unorthodox Biography New Evidence Of An Authorship Problem. She really seals the deal in a scholarly way that there's no way he wrote these plays because then you couple that

19:49 was something that people just didn't notice for the first 100 years, like how dense these plays are. You just got carried along in the emotions of the play but when you dig in and do close readings, you find reference after reference after reference to myth religion philosophy history that to this day now 400 years later new books are coming out with new interpretations of the plays based on close readings that are irrefutable Julius Caesar, for instance. I won't go into it but new things are still coming out because the plays are very very dense and the level of education needed was just extraordinary Oh that's the other thing there's no evidence William Shakespeare ever went to school period

20:39 See that's one of those things i read discrepancies online i saw some. People who look into this say he never even really read a book or ever was seen with books and other people say well you did have a pretty decent education for a commoner of his day and it's like will for a comment of is there the pre big caveat i think but, Let's get into the why. You mentioned, why would this project be undertaken? Why put energy into this while we know that the state always benefits from entertainment and it is one of their great tools even today if you ask Joe Atwell that's what the whole new Testament was as a creation from the Flavians to get people to act certain ways mainly the Jewish sex that they were fighting with

21:25 Now shakespeare's works could be another example that that's the case we're making is that this is state sponsored propaganda from the tutor era and also think it's worth adding in this context that. A regular person is totally capable of doing remarkable things, I don't doubt that. But to me it's more about the acceptance of the work and the exalted status that is has over time you cannot study theater without shakespeare his works are unavoidable and oftentimes the only playwright anybody knows by name and common people can create great art all the time

22:06 But if you aren't connected, you aren't promoted to that top 1%. So to me that's a historical context that also needs to be considered just the fact that we know his name today and that every academic who even touches anything theater adjacent will have a course where you have to go through and study Shakespeare on your progression through any of our educational systems. Yeah absolutely so I think there are two points here one is the commoner genius of which Mark Twain is a perfect example, and their writing, their art will be about their life. Whereas he brilliantly points out in that stage piece Keir Cutler made of it but it's in the book because that Stratford-upon-Avon is not even mentioned once in all the plays almost no commoners in any of the plays He's not writing about his own life which Mark Twain explored in detail

23:06 And other commoner geniuses, their art comes out of their lived experience. And that just doesn't exist in the place if William Shakespeare wrote them—his real name wasn't even Shakespeare—in his education there's no proof he ever went to school so he could have gone to school and learned a little bit of Latin but that's about it And then as far as the state influencing the plays, that is now mainstream Shakespearean scholarship. Again very late to the game probably mid 1900s scholars began to realize that the history plays which is a category of the Shakespeare corpus, the history plays there's 10 of them concerning the progression of English kings from I forget the first one King John

24:00 right up to Henry VIII, are all slanted A to make the monarchy look good and to make the Tudor monarchy look good. They're not real history. They're faked history that people didn't even realize that because there weren't... History as a discipline hadn't really blossomed yet particularly in terms of the theater so a lot of this stuff is late to the game because these academic disciplines really didn't exist And there's a great movie called The Lost King by Steve Coogan, an English comedian. And it's about a woman true story who discovered the bones of King Richard III who was killed by Henry VII and Henry VII was Queen Elizabeth first grandfather father of Henry VIII he was the first tutor and he seized the throne from Richard III

25:03 Shakespeare wrote a play called Richard III, in which Richard III looks like a monster. He looks like Hitler. He's this horrible vicious violent man and it's all made up to make the Tudors look like thank God we had the Tudors came in after Richard III and this comes out in the movie. It's not a major point in the movie but it's also made very clearly that this woman is questioning Richard the third's identity and some says oh, so you're questioning Shakespeare then It's brilliantly done it's a great movie on its own is called The Lost King And I forget the woman's name that the true story is based on a very brave woman a conspiracy theorist who found the bones of The Lost King and rewrote history in

26:02 It's a great movie and it shows the propaganda angle of the Shakespeare plays. So if you accept that 10 of the plays were highly propagandistic, you start looking at the other ones and what I found just further boggles my mind. And just to contrast with Mark Twain because people might ask well why do we know Mark Twain's name? If your theory holds true that only the connected people are exalted well, the further you go back the harder it is to print anything without state approval so the errors are different and i don't know much about mark twain's life.

26:44 I just know he's big in the Midwest and i'm from the Midwest so they celebrate their folk heroes. Well that's a really interesting topic of conversation like who gets famous and why? I don't think they completely control who gets famous, they want to but they're also smart enough to know that they can't come up with all the great art. They know that commoners do make great art and it's not tightly controlled mechanism and Twain, I think was a true independent voice who was just so brilliant. They need entertainment so they'll take what they can get and then in terms of other areas of reach and scale there's a lot of control publicizing and advertising certain people it's kind of a whole other topic but i don't think its completely

27:43 controlled by any means, but it's tightly controlled and it's more tightly controlled than ever. And I think this era really started it. Of course this era of the Tudor Era was one of the first where popular entertainment became a thing outside of like folk songs maybe, where like plays were even put on. There was a movement in Spain which I don't know much about and then there was Comedia dell'arte in Italy which also don't know much about but it kind of like pop entertainment was just getting started and Bacon knew the power of it and he knew the power of myth and he saw what it would be and then he created

28:34 this myth, he moved Shakespeare to the forefront with what's called The First Folio. Because nobody knew who Shakespeare was I challenge people all the time who love TV you know and they know all the new shows They know Game of Thrones This that and the other And i say You know ten shows and probably fifty actors name me two writers? I have yet to have anyone give me an answer They don't know who the writers are. There's like one or two famous TV writers, but the shows are extremely popular It was exactly the same in Shakespeare's day The actors got very famous The theater owners got wealthy and the writers almost nobody knew except for other Writers now if you ask a TV writer to name you TV writers they'll know

29:28 And screenwriters are a little more of an exalted species. Most people could probably name four or five screenwriters unless they studied cinema in college, but it was the same issue back then so in order to counter that phenomenon bacon the evidence is overwhelming with a playwright named Ben Johnson who was very cynical, very harsh fellow who was kind of a commoner. He actually had been a bricklayer. Brilliant funny sarcastic guy with good friends with Bacon and they put together what's called the first folio so all budding Shakespeare scholars the first thing you learn is First Folio now I've seen it said on Wikipedia one of the most influential books of all time

30:22 It only made 500 copies, and what it has is 36 Shakespeare plays with a long introduction that never actually says William Shaxper of Stratford-upon-Avon wrote these plays. It's sort of hinted at there's a drawing of him that Shakespeare myth busting enthusiasts love to make fun of and just tons of information in this thing that set him up as this mythic genius from Stratford, even though it never explicitly says who he was. It's really brilliant only a master manipulator or master of espionage could have put this book together and it's very famous book called the first folio that then became

31:16 the source of the rags to riches myth that created Shakespeare, that made the plays so important. Otherwise they wouldn't be any more important probably than Ben Johnson's plays. Right? So these plays were all found together It's not like they were parsed out over a person's lifetime. They're just found as a trove, like the Dead Sea Scrolls or something." Well I learned about the first folio from this documentary I recently watched about Peter Amundsen who is a cryptographer and

31:53 It's really interesting cuz you mentioned alan green so alan green who i interviewed a few years ago of the bar code he used a code cipher from john d that pointed to the church and stratford upon avalon where shakespeare is body as opposed to be under a stone with a poem on it well peter amundsen. When and not tried too see if there was anything with this mystery. And the first thing he noted is that this headstone does not say the typical name of the person with the birth date and the death date, it just has this poem good friends for Jesus sake forbear to dig the dust enclosed here blessed be the man that spares these stones and cursed be He that moves my bones That's all it says so by design

32:42 That scares people away from opening it. Nobody wants to invoke a curse for Christ's sake, but there are random upper and lowercase letters in the poem and that's a clue to a common encryption technique of the time by literary code And that code was developed by Sir Francis Bacon. Then you put those miscased letters into a grid cipher and one group of letters spells William Shakespeare, and the other group of letters is F-R-B-A, Francis Bacon. And then if you take just the letters of the dig dust line

33:19 you get four letters A-R-R-A. Well, Ara is a wall hanging like a curtain so in Hamlet Polonius is hiding behind the Aras and the Queen's chamber. Hamlet drives his sword through the Aras to kill Polonius he hides the body and when questioned where Polonius is he says I am compounded with dust and compounded with dust is the name of the code technique used to crack this code by this Peter guy and there is more but that right there just shows. This poem answer Francis Bacon and general code breaking our cross referenced back-and-forth between Shakespeare and Sir Francis bacon by at least three different methods on this stone alone, and then it goes even deeper because the sky got into the first folio and also notice some oddities

34:15 Basically grammatical errors and then he took those letters that are errors and use other methods to determine even more codes that are they take you through the tempest in a few other things but. I mean, it convinced me as all i should say is like watching peter talk about his code breaking and walking people through it. You know the criticisms are well you can take any letters and jumble them up anyway and make a code but he's like no these are the codes of the day! I'm not making up this formula this is what sir francis bacon created so it's pretty cut-and-dry wouldn't you say? What else would you add to that

34:58 Peter Amundsen is brilliant. I have his book right here, Seven Steps to Mercy. That's probably the best documentary on this subject it's called Seven Steps to Mercy or Cracking the Shakespeare Code. It's in three parts on YouTube. Peter gets together with an English Shakespearian scholar who is a very brave chap and they proceed to go through Peter's ideas about Shakespeare, and code breaking, and codes. It's very well done it's very entertaining I've seen it at least three times highly recommend that's three things Diana Price is authorship problem Diana price the Mark Twain is Shakespeare dead The Lost King as a feature film in this

35:57 Cracking the shakespeare code on youtube it's so entertaining and amundsen is brilliant he's a free mason. No yes since dropped out in organist. Is there code breaker and i have his book here the book is really convincing me man does it go into detail going to the weeds love it so let me ask you this, When alan green was here you know he had a lot of exposition to walk people through this john de cipher that got him to this church where this headstone is i call the head stone i guess it's just a stone its really more like a floor tile stone.

36:36 What do you think is under that head sound he thought it was the original shakespeare plays or some evidence that. Bacon would be shakespeare which kind of fits because the codes are all about that on top of it but what do you think center there, no i haven't really gone there go bacon crowd got really big in the late eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundred twenty wrote that book all because of a woman named delia bacon road the very first detailed book about Francis Bacon as William Shakespeare. I haven't read it, but it struck a nerve and a lot of people got interested in a lot of famous people had never made it to academia Of course But you know in terms of the control It wasn't as controlled than America's England You know she would have been shouted down in England In fact She went to England where it was a taboo subject and she wound up in a mental institution

37:37 But that's how Twain found out about it. And people were so convinced, rightly so that Bacon was the author that they got heavily into the codes and they wanted to find final proof which would be a break the code that says I Francis Bacon am William Shakespeare or to actually find the manuscripts in Bacon's handwriting And a lot of kind of crackpot things happened. People went digging certain rivers, people busted up walls in certain houses and sometimes there would be tantalizing clues that something had been there and moved. And Alan Green is very original in what he came up with. I sort of don't need that Peter Amundsen

38:26 took it all the way to Oak Island and that's in the movie. Yeah, I was going to bring that up too another thing where the mystery tends to be wrapped up in whatever that is some people think the codes point to that being the place for the original manuscripts of Shakespeare would be an who knows? It could be I mean That's a weird thing The Oak Island thing is very weird something was there somebody dug a pit and they protected There's evidence that it was a miner that knew bacon and they probably did hide the stuff somewhere to be revealed eventually. And probably in both cases, I would think it's probably dug up in secret like the state has a lot of power you just shut down the church for a day you go You get what it is? You hide it in the Vatican library no one ever knows about it That's probably what happened but then I like that came up in my Alan Green interview that always remember

39:24 is that if we're gonna say that the Shakespeare project was made by Sir Francis Bacon as state-funded propaganda, state supported propaganda. Well the King James Bible which he's also a lot of people say he wrote if you go to Psalms 46, forty six words from the front is shake forty six words in the back is spear He was apparently forty six when this was made So, there's another number code. So Sir Francis Bacon could be the person who crafted the King James Bible to be for maximum propaganda benefit let's say mass control and also the Shakespeare plays I mean that's a pretty strong resume for one man Unbelievable and it just goes on from there Yeah

40:18 And I don't want to pick a fight with anyone, but i think this is where i'm original too. Is that people get into bacon and they buy the bullshit that he was doing this for the benefit of all humanity which is why he made science. Alan Green has really gone down that path. hidden Rosicrucian wisdom and other guys too. He's trying to elevate humanity with this poetry, and he is a humanist, anti-monarchist... What I have found is exactly the opposite. Break some of that down for us because yeah he gets romanticized quite a bit America's and new atlantis and all this sort of stuff, we kinda know that figures of history that are connected with the royals i mean they're exalted always and

41:11 When you get into the details of their activity, none of these people are great. But we just can't see it firsthand. We have video of Dick Cheney. We can see the man but we don't necessarily have the video evidence to make our own conclusions about Sir Francis Bacon and the mysteries also help to make it seem like he's just a romanticized Renaissance man Well, the difference with Bacon is he stayed hidden. So these are people that discovered that he wrote Shakespeare and discovered that he was probably behind the Rosicrucian hoax I call it and while the Rosicrucians say right off that they want to benefit all of humanity. And they even find out that he's part of Freemasonry and Freemasonry is all about making good men better. And so they buy

42:06 And the fact that he didn't want credit for it just helps bolster this idea of him. And it gets really wacky that he's still alive, he's Saint Germain, he pops up every generation... He's the savior! It gets really wacky. I saw that about him being Saint Germain, that he is a ascended master and that kind of mythologizing it probably is state propaganda too and I guess I would ask you who would you consider the best analog

42:42 for Bacon in the modern era, because my best guess was like Edward Bernays. The father of propaganda and marketing but that's not exactly right because that's only one part of Bacon's life man you'd have to have four or five people yeah he was an astonishing genius one of my podcasts what did I say? I said like bacon If you transported him from the 70s, he would be king or almost king. So Richard Nixon, he'd be head of intelligence so who was the head of the CIA in the 70's? I've forgotten his name pretty famous name. He'd be the reigning poet of the day, Bob Dylan at same time and he'd be the attorney general, he'd be Bobby Kennedy all at the same time

43:38 while secretly running this new religion called whatever, Freemasonry or Scientology. Freemasonry is a religion he pulled it into its modern form as a modern religion his genius really knows no bounds I really do think he was the smartest certainly not the wisest of the best but his impact is mind-blowing and then The proof of this is in the New Atlantis, where he completely prophesized... I don't know how to say that word. Prophesied scientism! He completely saw what science was to become in society and he gives a portrait of a scientific utopia It's not even called the New Atlantis The fact that the new atlantises name of the book is a bit of a mystery

44:41 Because the old Atlantis is in the book and there's a war between The new Atlantis Bensalem that called Ben Salem. It has all this Judaic symbolism, but it's Christian But the scientists are the Kings There's a king who doesn't make an appearance? The scientists are carried around like kings And it's the scientists that determine if the miracle is a true miracle or just staged and the scientists It is said in the book have the capability to create fake miracles. And they don't tell the people all that they know, it's really wild

45:22 Totally saw it coming. Well, to play devil's advocate on this It would be nice to have a society guided by absolute truth and accurate data and science But that is not what we have and we think of scientism differently in a post-covid reality but maybe he did mean a society guided by evidence And truthful discovery and not so negative way cuz i think the conspiracy theorist would say. I'll let everything be ruled by raw data because all your propaganda is going to fall apart and the conclusions are going to be more on my side if we go with the raw data and the raw truth. So, the general idea in Bacon's day of a society ruled by the facts and just the facts ma'am it isn't necessarily negative but to a post-COVID mind in the white lab coat priest class era it certainly feels that way. Right well here's the problem

46:23 is that science has been apotheosized as truth. When science, as great as it is—I'm not anti-science I love science always have gotta love the science gotta love it gotta love it! It's fascinating! —it's only good for the physical It's only half good for the living, the biochemical. It's completely useless for government running a government. It's useless for love affairs. It's useless for raising your children. Try to raise your children by science you get BF Skinner in a skinner box and a suicide at age 15. You can't make art with science or it will be crummy. They can tell ya about life after death

47:13 It can't go into the most important areas of life and it has to be contained. We have to get science back into its lane." And exactly what we just saw, we pulled it out of trust the science, science will win are completely meaningless statements. But people fall for them instead of trusting God, it's trust in science and there is not a trust in science as a constant questioning the constant looking at the data and then of course you have to interpret the data and science in a lot of ways is at a dead end where the interpretation that data has kind of gone haywire and this great guy John Ioannidis

48:08 who's talked about the reproducibility crisis in science and how they're not really teaching science. Most people don't really even know what controlling the variables is, and how hard it is to actually do real science. And it was kind of easy at first all these discoveries were made in the 16th, 17th, 1800 especially about magnetism and all this great stuff. All that's really done has kind of make us more comfortable But the old saying is, you know every question science answers you get two more. So yeah science is great but it's extremely limited in terms of running a society. Yeah well I agree with ya and cheers to that! I just thought that I'd set you up for a nice little rant and it worked out! Thanks for that Of course this is how The Dance Is Done so You mentioned in the beginning

49:08 You were researching the British empire and that's kind of what sets you off on the trail. You had gotten that far is sort of what she said, well where have you gotten now with the research journey? Where is the end of your rabbit hole? Well, what I found is that The English Empire...I don't even like to call them British. I think it's another way they hide, where they kinda hide the English flag and the Union Jack, the Red Cross, Rosie Crucian They're directly involved with the climate hoax and the pandemic and the Great Reset. They're right there with the World Economic Forum, they're pushing all this stuff but just like the Rosicrucians supposedly came out of Germany, they offloaded onto somebody else but they leave the hints there like Prince Charles is the one that announced The Great Reset

50:09 It's on his website. I have a link to it on my website, they were intimately involved at the Club of Rome when global warming became decided as the topic going forward and The Great Reset is suspiciously like the Great Instauration, which is what Francis Bacon called his entire corpus. Everything he did he fit into this schema called The Great Instauration. Instauration means new beginning reset it's almost the exact same thing and it is kind of wrapping up their hegemony into the technosphere

50:59 using the UN and the WHO, and fear. Fear sells, fear works, and fears of a boiling planet, you know? Fears of killer virus! We gotta pull the whole world together." And they're flailing. They did too much, too fast, too soon because their schemes are mad to want the whole world under your control is completely insane. They're mad scientists, and mad scientists eventually blow up." And that's the whole theme is the mad scientist theme and I think Francis Bacon was a mad scientist and he was even a bad scientist. He really wasn't a scientist. He knew how science worked. He didn't make any discoveries

51:54 He even told, maybe I'm rambling here but we're on the science thing. Actually no we wanted to stay on what's happening now but i think what's happening now is a direct extension of what Francis Bacon wanted and it's in the New Atlantis and its the technocracy Yeah, the ideas are old. Only the technology to implement them is new and indeed even that might not really be ready yet and I think they might have jumped the gun. I think they jump. Yes man. Here's a little tidbit this is why Tudor London was so amazing The Man That Realized The Earth Is A Magnet. It was William Gilbert

52:38 was a doctor slash scientist, there was a lot of new science happening in Tudor London and Bacon saw it happening. And Gilbert was obsessed with magnetism! What did Bacon tell him? Hey Bill, stop playing with those magnets that's not going anywhere. Of course, magnets are the source of all our electricity I mean he just completely whiffed on that Which is a whole other topic, but... The secret sciences too if you go down the rabbit hole of what makes UFO's work and anti-gravity and electroculture and all sorts of exotic applications. It all comes back to magnetism Yeah hiding the real deal from the people as in New Atlantis he comes out instead We don't tell the people everything we find so He foresaw it

53:35 And his most famous quote is, knowledge is power. And that's what he's famous for a lot of people don't know he said that but why is knowledge power? Why isn't knowledge compassion or understanding? Right it implies that you're not going to share the information Yeah exactly its power so at the library the other day was Helen Keller's birthday and some great librarian put up Knowledge is love and light and vision. Helen Keller, why isn't knowledge that? Why isn't knowledge love? No it's power! He didn't have a lot of love in him which makes people say that he couldn't have written Shakespeare because there was so much love in Shakespeare Well let me... I got news for you There's not a lot of love in Shakespeare

54:27 That's another myth. And then we get into the individual plays, which is really fun and it's extremely time consuming just to read one three or four times and take it apart and read all the scholarship on it. Yes I was going to ask you about some of the plays themselves but As far as myths go, there's definitely a rabbit hole about Helen Keller being just kind of money-making fame seeking scam. Oh you're kidding? Yeah well just one of the firsts of course You can add Stevie Wonder to that I mean maybe even Rachel who knows how well these people see do you really not see There is video of Stevie Wonder moving out of somebody's way on stage and it's like, you shouldn't have been able to see that that person was coming at you like that. But you know, you become a lot more famous when you overcome the obstacles of your handicap and how does it get done? Was Beethoven really deaf? What do we know? What do we really know about anything? How can we answer? I think Stevie Wonder is blind

55:31 I think that's the one who is most likely the best case to be made about a liar. Ray Charles, I think there's a better case to be made that he's authentic. Stevie Wonder watch some of the videos about that being a hoax and come back to me. Okay. Well this has been super fascinating and I've been convinced ever since I saw the decoding of that headstone or tile in the church, the code is just right. right there critics of the Bacon authorship theory say well the writing is not similar in tone or language and to answer that i say what he's basically playing a character. He's creating a fictional characters so you might see some stylistic differences and the other thing they says why hide it bacon didn't hide all this other stuff he did her any of his other writings at site well if its state propaganda,

56:28 Then you're gonna have to hide that a statist involved in the upper rungs of society created it. So I think it's just one of those things, if you have a conspiracy first perspective, if you're looking for manipulations rather than assuming the elite are doing the best they can and just are looking out for us And if you're skeptical of these sorts of things, then you start to parse it in a new way and things slide into place. So I think he made a pretty good case today. A lot of fun stuff intriguing history and there's no doubt that the influence of bacon and Shakespeare and all this stuff is still with us today. I wanted to throw this in too so I heard you mentioned in passing that you're an herbalist

57:18 And I just wanted to ask you about that because i'm learning more about the native plants in my area and when I looked them up almost everything, even things we consider to be weeds have use cases. It's a door i'm just starting to crack open but it seems pretty overwhelming given everything that is out there what would you say herbalism has taught you about the world and maybe some of your best sources for Herbalist Bible or Catalog of American Plants? That kind of thing Well, herbalism has taught me via the plants that we live in a beautiful world. They're raising their arms in benediction and beauty just this astonishing beauty. Plants are just so happy! You know you got your weeping willow and you got a few sad sacks but they're just so happy they're just so joyful they're just full of life

58:16 And yes, so many of them have medicinal uses. And yes it is a vast amount of information and I did two years of herb school and I just felt like I was in a river of information just trying to touch and drink and see and feel as much of it as I could as it roared past me. As for a book there's a number of great books out there One is the books of the American Southwest. I know you're in the southwest now by a guy named Michael Moore, he's at legendary herbalist but he died couple decades ago was my teacher David Winston but isn't it too many books out? There's a great one by a guy named Stephen Green I think with details all these different herbalists get together

59:11 And they tell you their top 30 herbs. And then he tells you how to make your own medicine, and that's when you become an herbalist when you make your own medicine. It can just be like snipping some thyme and drying it, but my advice is always look for herbs first for remedies. They're great for kids, ear infections, agitation, anxiety... And I'd be happy to send you stuff separately that could be of use. I just found out that you have two small children." Yeah, and also I'm down in Florida now so this is obviously... Oh! You're in Florida?

59:58 It's just that down here, it's so dense with new plant life everywhere. Way more so than the deserts of the American Southwest. I'm just finding so many new things and the flora and fauna is pretty wild. What part of Florida are you in? Outside of Tampa. Okay. I have some friends up in Gainesville. He's an herbalist. Love it! That's pretty far from you. I need to get plugged into the local herbalists network, i know that but man this has been a lot of fun And with the podcast on bacon, you have 15 episodes. You haven't done one in a couple of months but you mentioned the 16th episode you're working on anything else to leave people with in terms of this work and supporting it and the Patreon and what they get and all these things that are why we do the dance? Well I could use some help and encouragement via patreon.com The Hidden Life is Best

1:00:59 For $5 a month you get access to all the episodes. The website, thehiddenlifeisbest.com has all the episodes and some extra stuff check both of those out and like I said those four things i mentioned the twain, the seven steps to mercy film, The Lost King What was the other one? There's a great way to get into this. And I really do think that what happened in Tudor London absolutely informs what's happening right now, and that's why I'm doing the podcast and pay attention and be aware of the stories you're being told because we live on stories and we want to make our own stories. Thank you so much Greg! This has been a blast. Yeah it's been a good one The Hidden Life

1:01:57 is best dot com is where people should go for all the other stuff and this has been fun a real trip, who does to you for doing great research and thanks for reaching out to share with us today take care. You too great take care yes my dame is robert frederick takes the square And it seems like THC goes left when everybody else goes right. Obviously there's a ton of stuff going on in the world right now, conspiracy and corruption are at startling new heights The woke Smurflympics is pissing everybody off and the Trump assassination attempt just gets more weird every day

1:02:39 Now there's these videos of crooks dad out just doing some shopping and yeah kinda being harassed i don't totally support that but he is with someone who's wearing a full. Mask and sunglasses and some say it says wife meaning crux mother and something to scruff himself, And they're kinda saying that because the parents are connected to the nefarious network, and he's in the Blackrock video and this... ...that he probably wasn't even the one killed on that roof. That was probably a patsy for him because if you're connected your kids don't have to die. I suppose we've seen stuff like that happen before but why even use the kid's name if you're gonna use another kid as the dead body?

1:03:25 Who really knows, but you can always depend on the conspiracy fear to make things more complex and kick the weirdness up another level. And then you have the totally healed ear which a lot of people are saying well there's evidence that it was all just a PR stunt from the Trump campaign and I just can't get there because in my head if you did the difficult part of staging the scene The easy part is keeping the fucking band-aid on your ear The fact that he took it off makes me think he was throwing the doctor under the bus because the doctor wrote in a report that you had to send a meter whole ripped through his ear and who was that dr well.

1:04:07 Dr ronnie jackson was a rear admiral in the navy and then the physician to the president under obama and according to his wikipedia after donald trump was elected president twenty sixteen he kept jackson on as position of the president. And gave me another title deputy assistant to the president and they became close after he was the one two, Give a glowing assessment of trump's health praising the incredibly good jeans and all that stuff in the cognitive test we remember that. Now that guy is a texas congressman and trump replaced him as chief medical advisor to the president with anthony fauci in twenty nineteen, you know how that went but he's the one who wrote the report on trumps two centimeter wide wound and I feel like if that was an embellishment

1:04:59 As this guy has embellished things before for Trump, it seems like after he wrote that report he took the bandage off to be like whoops looks like everybody knows you lied now. I can't be sure there's probably bigger things at play but that does seem like a petty little thing he would do Not even thinking about the bigger questions people have about why it healed so quickly. And I guess any conversation about it is good, any press is good press He probably has that philosophy It would be hard for him not to at this point

1:05:36 It never really ends and that's where we are today and not some of the stuff that i haven't really heard. Many other places though i will say when it comes to the general roster of current events every show i listen to is sort of saying the same stuff, if i put myself in shoes of a listener here i think i'd rather hear something completely unrelated to the news cycle and current events I don't know, i mean we do have a current events show coming up with Ryan Christian so ill get to say some of those same old things too praise be but for now something completely unrelated and well not even completely unrelated because as Robert said somewhere in there towards the end be aware of the stories were being told because we do live on stories. And they know that and they always give us something to chew on

1:06:27 But we do live on stories and it might sometimes seem trivial, but a lot of energy goes into crafting these semi-real and half imagined stories to color our perception of damn near everything. And it's not new and obviously still is a big part of our current events. I thought this was fun when I learned about Peter Amundsen and listened him walk through his code breaking and the logic of it...I was pretty damn convinced It's funny to hear debunkers describe his process as random or that he just moving things around until he gets the results you want but that's bullshit. He's taking the letters that are randomly capitalized in the original material and then putting them into a grid like pattern developed by bacon and getting exact words and phrases that tie the two together,

1:07:17 It's really impressive work and clearly shakespeare had a huge influence on western culture they say he made up a lot of words that actually became integrated into our language. And as i kinda noted in the show i think anyone who is injected into the core curriculum, all students everywhere clearly served some purpose or was in some way connected to those who craft our history and culture And you know I would actually like an update on Alan Green and his barcode stuff. I appreciate his story in the work that he's done but i think he tries a little too hard on the build up, and framing of the whole thing, and exposition this sort of I'm taking you on a journey stuff outside of that the core work is really impressive

1:08:09 John D code and the king james bible thing i always throw into the mix songs forty six forty six letters from the front is shake forty-six letters in the back of spear it's just interesting and I'm not really vested in any conclusion. But these things do stack up and i consider this episode relevant just to show how long, this practice has been going on and how long its been considered a very effective use of weaponized art essentially That said in the plus show we added a lot more material, Bacon and the Rosicrucian hoax, Kabbalah as a state sponsored hoax. The case for Elizabeth I as Bacon's mother, the John D connection, child catchers in the Elizabethan theater scene...

1:12:42 I'll be thankful when it's all exposed The vast conspiracy There is such a difference Between me and the Denver From Ohio Southern Cards They'll tell you the story Of everything that has been done And they will call out

1:13:22 They're cartoons It's so typical of me to talk about this stuff I'm sorry, that's good and well Did you ever hear the argument? That nothing really happens it's no secret And that the best is planned It's doubling your time From a higher side

1:14:39 They're calling out a thousand crimes. They'll tell you something the elite have done, and they'll call out deception on the web that's been swallowed from the challenging your path And I'll tell you someday that the battle has begun but we can't fight it with violence

1:15:19 The mind's where it's one for all. I'm the one. I'm from a higher side, and they'll tell you what you have done And they'll call that action on the web that's been spun From a higher side challenging your path

1:16:25 But we can't fight it with violence.