Nick Bryant | The Watergate Sex Ring Cover-up, Spook Journalists, & The Diddy-Epstein Link

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05:52 We know they're lying to us, just don't hold to our degree. Without DHC, the highs I've checked show the need for me. Hey, all you cool cats and kittens from the Sunshine State. I'm Greg Carlwood and one of the great American myths our system has succeeded in spreading is that what you see on the surface level is essentially all that's going on. The good guys chase the bad guys. The media presents impartial investigative journalism

06:42 And even though political parties spend millions of dollars to gain influence and have strongly worded statements about their opponents, nobody would ever cross the line when it comes to the sacred process of free and fair elections. Although, if you understand how ruthless and dedicated power-seeking psychopaths and intelligence networks can be then you know that our football watching apple pie eating flag waving fiction is just a carefully crafted convenient cover story made for most people to cling too that hides the true darkness that actually drives The Big Machine. Trafficking, wiretapping, blackmail, honeypot setups, depraved indulgent fantasy fulfillment, bribery, coercion threats and when that doesn't work good old-fashioned murder. There is no uncrossable line in the quest for absolute power and the sooner we accept that reality the sooner we can assess the real scope of our problems and maybe install some more effective measures towards unraveling The Tangled Web than ensnares so many

07:39 But in the meantime, while our friends and family cover their eyes with another fictionalized crime show and plug their ears with Taylor Swift music... Those of us with the stomach for it can follow the work of the few authentic talented journalists willing to tell it like it really is. And at the top of that list is always the great Nick Bryant. He's been covering sexual abuse scandals, blackmail and child trafficking for pretty much his entire career from his investigation of The Finders Cult and his legendary 800 plus page masterwork The Franklin Scandal a story of power brokers child abuse and betrayal Do his role in the public release of abstinence little black book and his work exposing the wider network under the abstain umbrella. He's been here twice before talking about all these things originally all the way back in twenty fifteen and then again in twenty twenty,

08:29 And it seems like he's had a very busy few years. He now hosts the Nick Bryant podcast and produces two extra shows a month for Patreon supporters, and he has a new book titled The Truth About Watergate A Tale of Extraordinary Lies & Liars that suggests the real story beneath the sanitized Watergate cover story is a lot closer to the rest of his work than people might realize Keep your tray tables and seat backs in the upright locked position because we are going for a ride. The unsavory stuff investigator, blackmail network exposer and shining example of a truly ethical journalist Nick Bryant welcome back! Well thanks for that great lead off I really appreciate it Greg. I don't know if i'm quite up to that but next time I won't give you as much money. I paid him $500 dollars for that I gotta admit

09:17 Ah, jokes. He's got jokes people and that is something I wanted to comment on that you really have adapted well to the new media landscape where a lot of your colleagues might still just be grumbling that they can't get that mainstream coverage instead You've been doing your own podcast with deep dives and supplemental interviews that pad out the stories are always focused on And you've had great appearances on The Tim Dillon Show War Mode and Matt & Shane Secret Podcast shows that have bigger audiences than legacy media anyway and we do all right in our counterculture conspiracy corner but you've been able to do some of these big shows on the comedy podcast seen. In a way that keeps those audiences entertained but also exposes a lot of new eyes to the dark realities covered in your work,

10:05 And I love to see it even though these are some of the very shows i listen to in my leisure time when i want to take a break from a lot of this stuff. It's still impressive to see because not everyone who does the kind of detailed very serious work that you do can go with the flow enough, be successful and have well liked appearances on some of those shows. Well the grand irony is its the gestures that are coming up with truth And I never would have thought that was going to be a reality, but actually a number of these comedians whose podcasts that I've been on

10:44 They're very well versed in some very dark unsavory truths. And what's good about them is that they have such a huge audience, so I can get my message out to it, a much wider audience where I have to crack a few jokes and be the butt of a few jokes but you know i'm completely cool with abuse occasionally. My career right and small price to pay for getting the message out and You are right about the gestures there is a real overlap between comedy and raw truth telling sometimes just putting a raw truth in someone's lap can elicit a chuckle because of how uncomfortable they are so there's a rio. Overlap between just uncomfortable rob boldness the truth and comedy and so it is just kinda nice to see

11:33 I never thought i'd see the day where Nick Bryant is tweeting about getting on a podcast called Come Town but we are in strange times and the truth wants to be told one way or another so. There's a lot of things I'm hoping we can fit in, but let's start with your Watergate book. In it you basically present the story of the scandal we all know as a sanitized cover story for The Real Scandal which i had never really heard about involving the Columbia Plaza brothel and what I guess has been called The Call Girl Theory talk to us about this? It's interesting...I've written The Franklin Scandal which was about

12:11 pedophile network that had intelligence connections, that used blackmail. And then my next book was Confessions of a DC Madam The Politics of Sex, Lies and Blackmail which was about CIA assets using blackmail with gay escorts. Throughout these various adventures and odysseys into these books I had heard that there's a CIA honey trap at the heart of Watergate And I also heard some things about some of the reporters who became famous covering Watergate, which belied their heroicism. And I started putting all this together and about three years ago, I was going to be part of a documentary project and the money came in but I kind of had creative differences. So I went my way and they went their way

13:10 So I had some time and I wanted to write a Watergate book. I'd read a number of books on Watergate, and that burst of cash gave me about two years, year-and-a-half, to just focus on Watergate. And what I did is my Watergate book is the unified field theory of Watergate. I've taken all the books revisionist nonrevisionists all the government documents I've consolidated them. My goal, Watergate is a very complex story. It's conspiracy within a conspiracy which I can get into a little bit later and people know about one of the conspiracies kind of about one of the conspiracies but they don't know about the other conspiracy so the Alpha and Omega of Watergate is Richard Milhouse Nixon

14:09 And I'm definitely not a Nixon apologist. He did some really good things, but then he did some really bad things. So it's not like he was on my altar next to Mother Teresa. Actually, I don't have an altar or statue of Mother Teresa, but if I did, he would not be on that altar. But he was a cold warrior He was around when Joe McCarthy was going after communists in the House of Un-American Activities with Roy Cohn, that other stellar beacon of humanity. And Nixon made his name going after communists and at a certain point he realized that

14:55 what we were doing with the communists, which was ultimately containment. We were trying to contain communism. That's why we were in Vietnam is North Vietnam went communist and we were there to contain communism so it didn't go into South Vietnam or Thailand or Cambodia but Nixon had realized none of this was working So when he was campaigning in 1968 He said I am going to be the peacemaker I'm going to make peace with the commies, with the Red Menace. And his base was hawks and conservatives and they just felt it was another cynical Nixon ploy to get into office. They did not think that he would revert to Peacemaker once he got in office. They just felt he would revert to Tricky Dicky and The War Machine Would Feast but actually, strange enough

15:51 He was a politician that actually kept his campaign promise. I mean, that's very rare. A politician that keeps the campaign promises... Actually, I don't even hold politicians to campaign promises at this point because over the years I've learned it is quite futile but Nixon reached out to the Soviets and he started a foray into strategic arm limitation talks and then he reached out to the Chinese and opened diplomatic relations And what his goal was, was to radically reduce nuclear weapons. And he was going to play the Chinese off against the Russians. It was real politic and he was dedicated to doing this. One that he knew what the hawks were like in the government because he'd once been a hawk. He knew he was going up against some unbelievably powerful forces and

16:50 To add insult into injury, the Navy had a top-secret communications capability called SR1. And he was using SR1 to conduct these negotiations which really added insult to injury. So the Joint Chiefs of Staff got together and they initiated an espionage ring against Nixon. The Joint Chiefs of Staff engineered an espionage ring against their own president, which is quite amazing and reaping a lot of intelligence because they had an inside man.

17:31 At the National Security Council was Alexander Heck, who comes up later in the Watergate narrative. But he is providing this lowly yeoman whose name is Radford with all these top secret documents about what's going on between Nixon and China and Nixon and the Soviet Union but then the administration outed the espionage ring. They nailed it they busted it and they broke it up So, now it was the CIA's turn. And the CIA just started infiltrating the Nixon administration. I kind of liken it to the final scene in Scarface where the Bolivian drug lord sends all these assassins into Scarface's estate because there were a bunch of CIA agents that infiltrated the Nixon administration. Two of them were E Howard Hunt and James McCord

18:30 And these guys were legends. They were super spooks, and what hurt Nixon is he divided up his administration into two different segments. One of the segments was the committee to reelect the president. The other segment was basically his administration and he fostered antipathy between the two so the two really didn't talk. Hunt was hired by the administration ultimately because there were leaks The Pentagon Papers were leaked and some other stuff was leaked. Leaks really bothered Nixon, so his administration formed what would be called the Plumbers. The Plumbers' raison d'etre was to plug leaks. One of the plumbers was E. Howard Hahn. He was one of the CIA guys that infiltrated the White House

19:23 Now, the committee to re-elect the president, another guy named James McCourt. He had infiltrated that organization And he and Howard Hunt formed this powerful synergy. And G Gordon Liddy was supposedly in charge of them, but they ran circles around G Gordon Liddy. G Gordon Liddy actually believed in what Nixon was doing. I mean, he's crazy. The thing about Liddy is there's no doubt about it the dude's crazy. Anybody who takes his family to see Lenny Riefenstahl's Triumph Of The Will for like Friday night enjoyment

20:02 I mean, it kind of shows that there's some unhingement going on there. So Libby was in charge of the plumbers and there was Hunt and there was McCord and they were just spinning circles around him. And actually Daniel Ellsberg was the guy that lead the Pentagon Papers. And Hunt talked Libby into breaking into Daniel Ellsberg's office And it looked like a break-in. They broke glass, they stole pills... I mean they ostensibly wanted to make it look like a drug adding had hit the office So while the plumbers are doing their thing Libby connects with Janice McCord who is on the committee to reelect the president and then ultimately Watergate is hatched

20:55 And now we get into two different players. And this is where the conspiracy within a conspiracy comes in. Jeb Magruder is the acting chairman of the committee to reelect the president, and as soon as John Mitchell who's Nixon's attorney general steps down he's going to take that position over him. Magruder was really a spineless... I mean he was very frightened of him. G Gordon Liddy threatened to punch him out. G Gordon Liddy developed this grand plan decimate the Democrats. And one of them was, the Democratic National Committee convention was in Miami that year so they started interviewing hookers to compromise various politicians

21:43 And Magruder went to Liddy and said, can you find some hookers up here? Because I want to check them out. And Liddy said to himself this little punk he can't even get a hooker by himself so Liddy didn't think too much of Jeff Magruder but on the other side we got John Dean who is the counsel to the president who's supposed to be a good apparatchik but John Dean wants to prove himself He wants power, he wants to be The Man And John Dean has got a secret, too. The secret is John Dean's wife is very close friends if not colleagues with Heidi Reichen who ran a CIA blackmail operation in the Columbia Plaza which was about a block away from the Watergate. An apartment building? In an apartment building yes and what's fascinating about that is

22:42 That stayed covered up through all the Watergate hearings. But a number of those Watergate big shots, like Sam Dash was the prosecutor for the Watergate committee and he was also in Heidi Reichen's black book you see all these guys that are turning on the Nixon administration they're in Heidi Reichen's black book so Dean knew that there was a lot going on at the Watergate because if you were a Democratic VIP You would go to the Watergate and there was a secretary you'd look up, and she had like an album of prostitutes. And you would pick the one that you liked and then they would call the Columbia Plaza and then you would hook it with the prostitute in them. The CIA I would film you. It's all very politics as usual. Yeah. Epstein-esque So ultimately what happens is John Dean and Jeb Magruder know that

23:41 Or at least certainly John Dean does, know that these pictures are in there. Now according to G Gordon Liddy, Dean's wife is one of the hookers, one of the prostitutes and we don't have smoking gun evidence on that but we do know that Maureen Dean was very close to Heidi Reichen they were very close friends and According to the timeline that Maureen Dean and John Dean made, it really doesn't make any sense that she'd be a hooker or a prostitute because they say that they met in Los Angeles. Dean was there doing some administration stuff. They met in Los Angeles and then eventually they had like this long distance love affair and they flew back to Washington DC together and she moved in with Dean so them never made sense to me

24:33 be a prostitute because she didn't need to. Dean was making good money and was from an affluent family, she didn't need to. I found an article that shows that they met in Washington DC which completely destroys their timeline so these burglars the first time they broke in it was six guys in suits and they signed in at midnight and they signed into the federal reserve which had been burgled a month earlier, and the Federal Reserve was on the eighth floor. So these six guys, four of whom are Cubans and don't speak English that well sign in at the Watergate at midnight to the Federal Reserve on the eighth floor which had been burgled a month before they were trying to get busted that night but that security guard he had the IQ of an avocado I mean

25:33 I don't think that this guy had 10 active neurons. I mean, I really don't. You didn't do it in the book." But he didn't think anything of it and then they broke in and they really didn't do much because McCord really didn't want to do much and they left. And here's what's really interesting. McCord wanted to get busted. Hunt wanted to get busted because they wanted to incriminate the Nixon administration. That was her goal I don't think that they thought they could bring it down, but they definitely wanted to incriminate him. So three weeks later Dean and Magruder tell the Watergate burglars to go in again and actually one of the burglars has the key to the desk where The Black Book is when they're busted their photographic equipment is set up on that secretary's death so they're obviously going for

26:36 But the agenda was for them to get busted, and they tried really hard to get busted the first time. So James McCord had one of his lackeys call the DC police and tell them that there was a break-in into the Watergate. And Carl Schaffler who is on the DC Police—and he was also an intelligence guy too— He was like part two blocks away when he shouldn't even been there. He should have been working that night, and he was supposed to be in Pennsylvania? The whole thing is so contrived but anyway they responded and they got busted. The burglars had no idea the Cubans had no idea really what was going on. They were just being led around by McCord. That was Watergate.

27:25 And the upper echelon of his administration, they didn't know anything about Watergate. They didn't have a clue. They started calling each other and said did you do Watergate? I would say no, I don't do Watergate. So Eric will call Halderman, Did you do Watergate? No, I didn't do Watergate. Charles Colson, Did you do Watergate? No, I didn't do it. None of them knew who had done it because Dean and Magruder were keeping their mouths shut, and Hunt and McCord that was their goal to bring down the Nixon administration. So they were keeping their mouth shut too. And this is what happened in Nixon. So Nixon he didn't even know who ordered Watergate but his natural instinct was to cover stuff up. That was just what he did-cover things up so

28:19 After the Watergate break-in, he summoned the head of the CIA Richard Helms. to the White House. And Nixon and Helms hated each other, I mean these guys hated each other. Nixon didn't like the CIA because he thought that they'd affected his 1960 loss for president against John F Kennedy but Nixon hated the CIA and Richard Helms if he was going to brief the cabinet- He's supposed to be a cabinet member but if he was gonna brief the cabinet he was allowed to give a briefing and then he'd have to leave

28:56 If he was going to brief the National Security Council, he was allowed to give a briefing and then you would have to leave. They had this tremendous antipathy towards each other. Nixon via one of his subordinates, H.R. Halderman because the FBI started tracing the money and the money was coming out of that committee to reelect the president. They started tracing that money in and they found that some have been funneled through Mexico And that's what started them looking at the committee to reelect the president. Nixon decided that he could stop the FBI's investigation by using the CIA's trump card of national security, so we had H.R. Halderman say to Helms, We need you to quash the FBI investigation and Helm said no, we're not going to do that. Then Ehrlichman blackmailed leveraged Helms about the JFK assassination

29:58 And it's really funny because earlier, Nixon has got Helms in the White House and everything that he had was wired. He just wanted... It wasn't the CIA that wired him to the White House. It was him! He wanted to use those tapes for when he wrote about his memoir and things like that. And Nixon on those tapes is grilling Helms who shot John? Who shot John?! The CIA obviously had something to hide there, and they agreed to quash the FBI investigation. But they did not and they double-crossed Nixon. So that's what Nixon ultimately got booted for was obstruction of justice but you've got a number of other CIA players that come into this too which makes it all more fascinating. It was Woodward and Bernstein that broke

30:56 most of those really damaging Nixon stories. And they were working for the Washington Post. Now, the editor-in-chief of The Washington Post was a CIA guy and he had been busted lying about his affiliation with the CIA. He'd been a CIA guy since the 1950s and a book came out in the 70's that called him a CIA guy or said that he wrote CIA propaganda And he went after this author and the publisher. He got the publisher to destroy all the books, and then the woman that wrote it—her name was Deborah Davis—she was a Village Voice journalist. He got magazines to go after her to say that she was unhinged and not mentally stable. They really tried to destroy her. So this is the guy who's managing The Washington Post, and he hates Nixon. He has good friends with Helms

31:54 They've known each other for years and Woodward is a spook. I mean that's the thing that people miss about Woodward, Woodward is an intelligence guy. Right and I just want to jump in to say that I read some of your writings about Bob Woodward This is the way it goes like you have to assume that there are people in place for the media to go to when they need a credentialed professional journalist and this is the role he seems to play you call him an ethical unit which is a great term. But he made his career with bernstein off of the conventional watergate narrative writing the books winning pulitzer prizes. And then he becomes the go to expert for the media when they need a real journalist you can even look at the cover of their book all the president's men d, fifty anniversary edition it literally says on the cover the greatest reporting of all time because this is the overlay that

32:54 the society gets they don't get to see the darkness beneath it so you kind of have like a limited hangout operation where watergate is the story of just. Why are tapping again information is just politics meanwhile this woman maxi wells the secretary, runs a desk where they're doing a blackmail operation with prostitutes down the street. And that's the thing that they never wanted out, they cut around that whole part of it and Bob Woodward and Bernstein would be guys who get credit for being the best journalists on the story so what was their real role? Well to keep that stuff out of it is just pretty crazy but you're pretty brutal too Bob Woodward on the blog

33:38 Well, the thing about Bob Woolward and Bernstein too. I mean they tell lies when they don't even need to tell lies. I mean I understand telling lies when you need to tell lies. I get that especially if you're an ethical eunuch but let me tell lies where you don't even need to tell lies? And what do you call a person like that? I'm debated whether they're serial liars or pathological liars but i'll give you an idea of Woodward's career trajectory. Woodward graduated from Yale, he was in one of the Yale secret societies and he was ROTC. He was far right wing really far right wing even as a high school student in Wheaton Illinois. He gave one of the commencing speeches and it was gleaned from Barry Goldwater's conscience of a conservative and Goldwater was like an uber-conservative

34:35 And one of Woodward's Yale professors called him a crypto-fascist. So that's Bob Woodward, but now here is what is interesting about Bob Woodward. He goes through Yale and then he gets accepted to Harvard Law School but then he has this change in his attitude where And this is part of the cover story. I mean, you can't get around it. He ostensibly goes to The Washington Post and says to them, I would like to be a reporter

35:13 I will write for you guys for two weeks, for free. And if you guys don't think that I'm good enough to be a reporter, then you don't have to hire me." So a guy who has gotten into Harvard Law School is ostensibly going out on a dry run with the Washington Post and Woodward can't write—I mean he's never been able to write. If you look at most of Woodward's books there is always a co-author Now, I'm not saying that I am the greatest writer in the world but the dude cannot write. After all these years he still has problems fashioning coherent senses so he doesn't make a cut after two weeks but now it gets really interesting because The Washington Post owns this weekly in Maryland called The Sentinel and they hire Woodward to be

36:02 a reporter on the weekly. And here's where some major incongruencies start to come into play. Woodward is making $140 a week, but yet he's living in very expensive high-rise in Washington DC and he's driving around at Carman Ghia and he's going to New York at least once a month And he's able to edify his co-workers about Banana Republic revolutions. He is connected? He is connected, and then he's there for a year or so and then they bring him back to the Washington Post and he's at the Washington Post and him and Bernstein then break Watergate. They become the Mount Rushmore of Watergate that improbable story that I just told you has been completely covered up

36:53 And it's so obvious, Woodward tells a lot of lies throughout his life. But Deep Throat the source that he got really devastating information from is probably his biggest lie and he kept it quiet until 2005 and then he rolled out Mark Felt who was the associate director of the FBI and he was very far downstream in Alzheimer's And they rolled him on, he said this is Deep Throat. And Phelps said yeah I'm Deep Throat at that point out you know Phelp really knew his name but he could say deep throat and then it was published in Vanity Fair and Woodward was exonerated because people had caught onto his prevarications but what's really interesting

37:45 The cover story on their communication would be, Woodward had a flower pot and he would move the flower pot on his balcony if he wanted to talk to Deetro. And then they would meet... He would take two cabs and they'd meet in this underground garage in Virginia. I mean it was Robert Ludlum kind of bullshit. Right another aspect of the bullshit if I remember correctly, is that he said that Deep Throat would write the time on the corner of the paper that would be left at Woodward's door. But the truth is that that's not how they delivered papers in the building. The papers were downstairs in a lobby and a stack and that's just how they were. People had to go secure their copy with the concierge or whatever. So just this notion it's

38:35 It sounds good, it presents a captivating sexy little espionage spy angle where the time's being written in the paper and it's delivered to him by some unsuspecting bellboy. But the reality is like no that's just not how it works so thats fiction crafted to sound more James Bond-like. And heres the other thing So Woodward's balcony faced a courtyard Mark Felt ostensibly drove by Woodward's balcony every day and looked up to see if the flower pot had been opened. But here is the thing, Woodward's balcony faced a courtyard and you would have to get out of your car and walk like 50 feet and look directly up if you were going to see the flower pot

39:28 And here's what's really interesting. The most damaging information from Deep Throat came during the last six months before the tapes were exposed and felt had been fired by the FBI, six months earlier when Deep Throat is giving his most devastating information on the Nixon administration Felt is fired. So now we got to believe that felt it, he lives in Virginia and now he's driving into Washington DC every day and he's going down this alley and then he gets out of his car And then he walks 50 feet and then he looks up at Woolworths Belking We're supposed to believe that happened everyday? I mean

40:19 It's a big waste of part of your day to see if a person might want to talk to you and you have to check every day because there is no other way to verify. Yeah, I mean it's silly and i just think its really eye opening to expose someone like Bob Woodward as a CIA journalist we could say, a spook journalist And just how the whole media system props up a person like that so they can be the official source of information in this situation I wanted to ask you a little more about the actual blackmail scandal. It's the template that we see all the time from The Franklin Scandal, to Epstein, to Diddy filming people having sex partying when they don't know they're being filmed

41:06 I guess E. Howard Hunt and James McCord both being CIA agents, and this being a CIA operation what was their role in wanting to compromise Maxiwell's desk and this prostitution ring of Heidi Rikens out of the Columbia Plaza apartment building? They had to have known about it right? What's the scandal there? That was going on in the building but what What was the operation doing with that? You've got to keep in mind that these were Democratic BIPs, that were going to Maxi Wells. And it's kind of interesting you would think that the CIA would start with the lowly people as far as compromising but I've written three books on it now and they go right through the top! Yeah, of course. It's important to compromise people because then you get

42:09 Power and control. That's what it is all about, power and control. And then money for nothing and chicks for free if you want to use a dire straits term. And that is what Bernstein was in it for. Woodward he was a spook but Bernstein he was a pervert Bernstein was actually part of the swingers club that had a bunch of CI people and then he was buddies with this pimp that owned an adult bookstore, and the pimp would give him bootleg porn under the table. And Bernstein was in it for money for nothing and chicks were free I mean he's a Seder

42:48 blew all his money on hookers and blow. And then Woodward and the Washington Post decided that they had to start giving him a cut of something because he was getting kind of angry, and he knew where the bodies were buried. But Bernstein has no moral barometer whatsoever. He has no allegiance to the left or the right. He's just in it to activate his limbic system and get as much pleasure out of it as he possibly can. I will say this about Bernstein, at least the dude is a journalist. He's not a very good journalist but at least the dude is a journalist. If you read his books, he'll understand what... And those are after they've been through editorial. Yes and just for the people listening who maybe are hearing about this call girl theory for the first time, this subtext to Watergate

43:46 Just because this operation was going on in the building, what was the motivation of the break-in when it comes to this? Because you would think that CIA would already have information about this little blackmail ring. Was it just another faction where they were trying to get more information or were they trying to stick this to the Nixon administration? Okay so there's a conspiracy within a conspiracy! The first conspiracy I pretty much addressed and that is the CIA definitely wanting to take down Nixon which they did The second conspiracy, Dean and Magruder. And Magruder was also using escorts from Heidi Reichen. Magruder was in Heidi Reichen's black book and so was John Dean because his wife was good friends and possibly colleagues with Heidi Reichen. They wanted the dirt on the Democrats that was their goal. Like I said earlier Eugenio Martinez one of the burglars he had the key to the desk

44:46 Now, we don't really know exactly where he got that key. He said that he got the key from Howard Hunt but Howard Hunt denies it so you've got a CIA agent and a CI asset telling different tales I mean who are we to believe here? Right it gets really confusing but just the fact that this was exposed this was going on in the DNC is interesting and before we run out of time in this first hour i do encourage anyone to read the watergate book a minute is dance but it's super detailed and you make up pretty ironclad case. I wanted also throw in a little something about daddy here because you have another blog that very recent titled four words connect abstein and p ditty and u want to say those four words are on dre damon williams junior and,

45:38 This is really what prompted me to reach out. And then you happen to have a new book, which exposes another similar type of template thing but we have a situation where the same person involved in overseeing part of this investigation with Diddy was involved with Epstein and that's kind of mind blowing can you lay that out for us a little bit? Good old Andre Damien Williams Jr Hopefully someday Andre and I will become buddies. Very much that's going to happen, but I think that I could offer insights into him and he might be able to offer insights into me. He might at some point issue a rest warrant for me but then we get closer and that's what it's about togetherness. So Andre Damian Williams Jr.,

46:27 His parents were from Jamaica, and his dad became a doctor or medical doctor and his mom became a nurse. And he graduated from Harvard Law School with a BA in economics which is tough major economics I took microeconomics class from my Chinese guy and I've got nothing against Chinese guys I'm not partisan in any way but this guy really couldn't speak English Economics got these big ass equations, and he had half the class tottering on a nervous breakdown because economics is esoteric. They had no idea what he was saying. The midterm I got like a 68 which was one of the higher scores in the class. Anyway so my own microeconomics nightmare aside

47:20 What happened with Williams is he was then given a grant by the Paul and Daisy Soros Fellowship for New Americans. And who is on the board of the Paul and Daisy Soros Fellowships for New Americans? None other than Peter Soros, who is circled twice in Epstein's Black Book. Now, is this just a bizarre coincidence or is it something ominous? But Damien Williams has lied down with some pretty ugly dogs. Yeah, it seems like a conflict of interest to be overseen an investigation where a person who might be guilty of some crimes their father funded your college scholarship. I mean that seems like it could be a conflict of interest

48:22 It's definitely a conflict of interest, but I think I'm the first guy that really knows about that. And most of the time, the media just ignores me. People steal stuff from me on podcasts and get it out. I wish they would attribute it to me, but you know, I understand how things go. That's just the world we live in. I've accepted this type of karma. But anyway, the DNC Democratic National Commission chairman was Terry McAuliffe and He was a really dirty politician. And Williams was, quote unquote his body man in politics. A body man is like a ubiquitous assistant and Damien Williams traveled all around with Terry McAuliffe as McAuliffe was doing. Okay, McAuliffe he got like $120,000 donation from the Chinese National for his Virginia gubernatorial race which was illegal

49:20 But then the Chinese National gave $2 million to the Clinton Foundation, which I gather is legal. I'm not sure of probably. Well if Bill Clinton says it's legal then it's got to be legal right? Then he started this company that were going to make green cars but It got outed as a visa for sale scheme, and then he retired from the company of course or resigned from the company. So he's been involved in all kinds of dirty little political tricks but he is high enough on the totem pole where you can get away with them as long as he doesn't piss anybody else off. You've got Andre Damien Williams Jr.,

50:07 Our man, and he is the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York which makes him according to The New York Times the most powerful U.S. attorney in the country that particular position and that's arguably but definitely the most powerful federal official in Manhattan for sure or federal law enforcement official And the Southern District for New York has Mass-produced big shots. There's been senators, cabinet members there was a New York City mayor they all held that position so that's a coveted cherished position if you're given that position someone has to really trust you and he was the guy who covered up the Epstein thing He was going to prosecute Epstein but Epstein caught a bad case of death before that So he didn't prosecute him But then he prosecuted Maxwell

51:09 And Maxwell was indicted on one count of child trafficking. She'd been trafficking girls for 25 years and she was indicted on one kind of child trafficking, which is a pretty heavy sentence from 15 to life. And people think because there's so little footage or video or photos of her trial some people think it was a sham but you seem to be pretty confident she's locked up even though it is a bit of a cozy lockup? Well, she's in a dormitory now. But here's the thing on that trial was carefully choreographed there were four witnesses or victims that were called and all four had been exclusively molested by Maxwell and Emstein only yeah none of the victims that have been molested by power broker perpetrators who are called to testify

52:01 And what's amazing to me is the New York Times ran an article about six Epstein procurers, aka pimps. I mean it's right there in the New York Times and none of those procures except for Maxwell got indicted. And if this was a real trial what would happen is those procurers...and then there were other procures. The New York Times named six of them but there are more than six. If this was like a RICO indictment, like how the mafia was taken down. It's very simple how it would go. You would indict these procurers on multiple counts of child trafficking that'd be looking at 1,000 years and then they roll over on the big guys I mean that's how it would go down but Maxwell was indicted and that was it And I wrote a book called Confessions Of A DC Madam and it was about Henry Vincent he ran an escort service

53:02 intelligence people used his gay escorts to compromise people. Now, here's a dude just running the gay escort service that's all he was doing he is very shy unassuming guy very nice guy and he had been raised with this crazy religion of snake biting and things like that in West Virginia He got to Washington, DC. He was a mortician he was seeking his mortuary fortunes in Washington D.C., and then through a strange set of coincidences, he ended up buying the gay escort service from a guy that was not. And when the feds ultimately took him down they indicted him on a 41 count RICO indictment so he was looking at 295 years prison and the Fed said to him Henry

53:58 You've helped us a lot. We've been using your escorts to compromise politicians, and we appreciate that." Here's the deal. Now if you keep your mouth shut, we're only going to give you five years but if you talk, you're going to do all 295 years. That was the deal that was given to Lawrence King of the Franklin scandal And he had a no show job waiting for him. And with Maxwell, that was the deal though. Maxwell saw what happened to Epstein. She's not going to talk she's gonna be taken care of she's in a dormitory right now and

54:34 If you reach a dormitory, it's... You've done a number of years and you've been an exemplary prisoner. And you're getting close to getting out but Maxwell leapfrogged into this Cush dormitory situation So Andre Williams was the architect of all of this This entire cover-up! And now we have nothing to worry about because he is leading the P. Diddy investigation I mean, I could sleep so much better at night knowing that he's leading the P. Diddy investigation, then all those minors that were molested by P. Diddy are certainly going to get justice because we know that Andre Damian Williams Jr is gonna deliver justice for us." Yes and let me ask you this so isn't it a little weird that this case would even be under his jurisdiction? The raids were in LA and Miami what does New York really have to do with this

55:30 I'll give you four words what New York has to do with it. Andre Damien Williams Jr., that's what New York has to do with it." That's their guy and they're going to stick with their guy no matter how many weird hoops they have to jump through to get there? They're gonna ride that horse because it is very strange, there are a couple of strange things about these search warrants. First, they were executed in LA and Miami, but the search warrants emanated from the Southern District of New York. And Homeland Security was involved. Now it's true that Homeland Security does have an anti-trafficking element or agency, but usually the FBI takes people down like this so now we've got Homeland Security... When Epstein was taken down and his safe was drilled in there were hundreds of DVDs there who is the FBI guys?

56:22 That was one of my thoughts about the Diddy raids is I wonder if these raids were a way for the intelligence agencies to secure the blackmail material, not necessarily get evidence to build a case. I think it's more about okay this is going to go down so let's control all that information let's get it out of the public eye and then he can go down for the crimes? Well the thing with Diddy is what's really interesting I've written so much in this area at this point, and i see patterns. Lawrence King and Craig Spence were the pedophilic pimps in the Franklin scandal. Spence killed himself—and people say on the internet that Spence was suicided—I don't think he was suicided! He was given a deal either you kill yourself or we'll kill you, and he took the latter

57:18 So, what's really interesting to me is that both King and Spence were from lower socioeconomic backgrounds. So they didn't have a lot of people going to bat for them. It was them against the machine. And then with Epstein he's from a lower socioeconomic background. He's from working class Coney Island. The only person that's gonna go to bat for him is his brother and now with Diddy background is lower socioeconomic. His dad was a drug dealer, probably for Frank Lucas and he was thought to be a snitch so he was murdered and then his mom raised him in New York City or outside of New York City and he went to a fairly decent school and then he went to Howard but then he dropped out of Howard

58:11 and became an A&R guy for a record company. And then ultimately in 1993, he founded Bad Boy Records with another notorious criminal, Clive Davis. Yeah, I was going to ask you about the lawsuits because a lot of people are paying attention to the Cassandra Ventura lawsuit and the Rodney Jones lawsuit but I heard from you that P Diddy has been hit with five lawsuits since November 2023 Actually, it's another one. Okay? I mean isn't that a little odd he's been active for so long I know he's been in and out of problems legal troubles throughout the years but to be hit with these Six lawsuits in such a short amount of time It kind of seems like a coordinated takedown also the media coverage like this is a little weird Is this allowed to happen what do you think? I think that

59:06 It goes back to Clive Davis, who Diddy founded Bad Boy Records with. Clive Davis was a music mogul who is also a criminal. There was recently a documentary that came out about him that was essentially an infomercial. They looked upon Clive Davis as some kind of benign grandfatherly figure, a benign octogenarian. That dude is a stone cold criminal But he never goes to jail. In 1971, 72 and 73 he was busted for not paying his taxes. He was busted for filing false tax returns a few years later there was a big investigation into a Genovese guy named Pasquale Falcone who is smuggling 22 pounds of heroin into the United States and they started to dig into Falcone the Genovese guy and then they came across he and Clyde Davis had

1:00:02 manufactured a bunch of dummy companies. And Falcone was invoicing Clive Davis, and this is when Clive Davis was head of ABC Records. And Clive Davis was giving money and then him and Falcone were splitting the money so he got busted doing that! Actually it costed him his job but then within a year he started Arista Records that takes up But it's against the law for record companies to give any money to radio stations for playback. And it's called payola, and he was in the worst payola scandal ever where he was busted giving radio stations a quarter of $1 million dollars and we're talking in 1970 dollars which is a lot of money! That's what we know about but everything that I've told you... The dude did not spend one day in jail. He didn't spend one day in jail

1:00:51 So, he teams up with Sean Combs. Now this is just an extrapolation of mine and it could be wrong but I don't think that it is. I really believe that you cannot engage in that type of criminality that Clyde Davis was engaged in and not being informant. There's no way the average guy walks from all those crimes there's just no way And I think that P. Diddy also got on that bandwagon, and I think Clyde Davis showed him the yellow brick road and they both got on that yellow brick road together as FBI informants but here's the thing...and this is kind of analogous to the Epstein case is that there were a lot of civil suits being launched at Epstein, a bunch of them, and that made his media profile so much higher

1:01:53 Same thing with P. Diddy, there are all these... Now there's six of them and two of them were launched by women who said that they were minors when they were raped by Diddy and his cronies. And Little Rodney's case he was talking about Diddy trafficking underage girls and him being very uneasy about it and all kinds of other things so Diddy now has a lot of media on just like Epstein did And at a certain point, Epstein was taken down. He was arrested at Teterboro Airport and Epstein was like Diddy who is walking around loose as a goose and thinking that all was well. Then the fairy tale came to an end for Jeffrey Epstein. I think that the same thing is probably going to happen to Pete Diddy. He fits that profile of coming from a lower socioeconomic background. Who's going to go to bat for Pete Diddy? He has got the kids he has got the wives. If he gets busted

1:02:55 The deal is going to be giddy. He did some good work for us." We were able to compromise a lot of people at your houses, but you're going to have to do some time. But we'll let you keep your money so your kids are going to be well financed and we won't even indict your kids." Well, we'll indict one of them he's pretty bad. So I think that is probably the deal that's going to be made with our buddy Sean Puff Daddy Combs. Yeah well time will tell it does seem like he's been an asset for a long time i guess

1:03:30 My first thought is why not just let the good times keep on rolling but i guess you're saying that with all these civil suits it's just getting too hot. He got to big for his bridges he couldn't keep this stuff contain and spilling over and he will be the fall guy, add instead of exposing a big network they will just cut around all of that and probably get some really good Bob Woodward style journalist to do the deep dive and write the number one bestseller that exposes just the right amount of information, to allow him to go on The View and do that whole thing. It's very interesting I've written a lot about Jeffrey Epstein And actually i'm the guy who published his black book, I put it up on the internet

1:04:18 has not offered me a book deal. And actually, I am an author. I do write books and I'm capable of writing books. I've written books in the past. I think I can write books in the future but no one has offered to give me a book deal! And I've got an agent that...I don't know this person she's got the intellectual depth of a kitten's milk saucer I think But anyway yeah No one is standing in line to have Nick Bryant write and Epstein, both. And I'm the guy that has connected Epstein and P Diddy and have connected some other stuff that no one else is connected with. Again, no one's asking Nick Bryant for interviews. It's kind of strange. Podcasters are but the mainstream media... There was a big cache of documents released in January on Epstein and I got a call from CNN

1:05:15 And they wanted me to, because I was the guy that released the black book. That's how they were going to sell me is that's the quote sell me and i told the guy well you know i hope he can get a good price for me have never been sold before but anyway that aside So, I'm texting with this CNN producer and I said—I did start an organization called Epstein Justice where we want the government to be accountable for covering up Jeffrey Epstein's pedophile network. And we want the perpetrators to be accountable too. So, I texted the dude and I said you know, I'd like to talk about Epstein justice too as long as we're going to be talking about Epstein.

1:05:57 And about 15 to 20 minutes later, he texted me and goes we're going in a different direction next. Funny how that works out. Fox when the Sandusky stuff was breaking there was a junior producer at a fox affiliate that had read The Franklin Scandal and she really wanted to interview him. She reached out through Trine Day and then ultimately her boss reached out to me through Trine day And I talked to her boss for like three minutes. She just asked me some stuff and it was a normal day in my life, i mean i was just talking to her, i wasn't...I'd had my usual amount of coffee that was quite cogent that day and then she told my publisher that i was incoherent when we talked so they were not going to have me on Fox you know

1:06:54 It's very funny with me in the mainstream media. I get so far and then all of a sudden, things become unraveled. Yeah, right. Well it is very telling when they won't cover this kind of stuff but it really isn't something you need anymore when you have access to podcasts with much bigger audiences like Matt and Shane and it's cool that they would have you on to cover some of the stuff when they could just phone in with another comedian making the rounds who has a special out who they already know. It's great! And a lot of us podcasters are just regular guys who are curious about that stuff

1:07:34 We don't have any conflicts of interest in going deep on the details like mainstream media networks might. Man, it is about that time! Super good to talk to you again and glad to see more people with reach responding to your work. Remind the listeners of your website podcast and anything else coming up you might want them to be aware of You can go to nickbryantnyc.com, that's my website I didn't have a website and podcast up until two years ago. Some kids have dragged me out of the stone age And there is the Nick Bryant Podcast which is The Nick Bryant Podcast and with Twitter Nick double underscore Bryant

1:08:19 And also, please check out Epsteinjustice.com It's a very good organization and together we can get justice here and I want to just talk a little bit about Epstein Justice Please do because i'm very cynical of this sort of thing that anything is ever going to get fixed so help me believe that there is an organization that can actually achieve something We are an organization, we are 501c3 you go to our website We're producing newsletters now. We've got a stellar advisory board, we've got some really good people. Alicia Owen is the associate director and here's the thing when you've gone to pathology there are three stages. There is awareness, acceptance and action. Most Americans are aware that Jeffrey Epstein was trafficking children most Americans are aware of that and he got away with it

1:09:19 Where the cognitive dissonance comes in is accepting that the government colluded with Jeffrey Epstein to traffic children. But once you reach a critical mass of acceptance, then you can take action and this is the only issue that can bring the right and left together as children shouldn't be trafficked with impunity and the government shouldn't aid in child trafficking I think just about everybody on the right and the left can agree upon And that is the only issue that can bring the right and left together. And there are people in Congress at the federal level, that we've been in contact with, that I really do believe want a commission to be formed. It's tough to form a commission. We're not ready yet to form a commission. We have to have more boots on the ground. We've already done one protest. We protested the Glenn Maxwell trial and you can watch the protests it's on Epsteinjustice.com

1:10:24 So, most people in America know that our government is unbelievably corrupt and not working in our best interest. The congressional approval rating is 70%. That means that 83% of Americans don't believe that the government is acting on their best interests. Eighty-three percent of Americans don't believe the government is acting in their best interests I believe that if you move into Epstein, you will come across the cesspool that shows you why there's so much malfeasance and why our federal representatives don't go to bat for us. Really don't care about us. They allow our constitutional rights to be trampled upon. There are laws that are made that really accentuate the wealth polarization. There're so many things

1:11:21 The bankers that destroyed our economy, none of them were put in prison. We can just go ad nauseum on these things." So I believe at the bottom of this cesspool is a lot of blackmail. I've been looking into political blackmail for 22 years. I've written three books on it. I've written a lot of other stuff on it And actually, there was a Tennessee congressman federal congressman in December that came out and said my colleagues are being blackmailed. It's the first time of federal congressmen have said something like that I've ever oh my God! That's amazing so I've been saying for 22 years So we've got a federal Congressman Tim Burchett Saying that his colleagues are compromised and I believe

1:12:17 The majority of our politicians are compromised. They might not be compromised by sex, but they're compromised by money. Most people think it's special interest money and granted the special interest money causes a lot of corruption but so does blackmail and I'll leave you with an anecdote about blackmail. I got to one of the blackmail photographers of The Franklin Scandal kind of an unsavory character When you do investigations like that, you're going to have to interview some unsavory characters. And I was trying to really understand it and he said it's like this once you're compromised, you're on a yacht and it's a beautiful yacht and it's a beautiful day and you can have anything you want on this yacht anything but if you decide to get off the yacht the people on the yacht are gonna make sure that you drown

1:13:19 So, once you're compromised there is zero incentive for you to come forward. Zero incentive because you'll be destroyed your family will be destroyed it certainly be the end of your political career and probably the end of your marriage and family so there's zero incentive to come forward once you're compromised. No one will believe you anyway either Well, Tim Burchette got a lot of play when he said that my colleagues are being compromised in motels. I was very happy that one of those dudes came out and said something like that. I've been waiting for that for 22 years. I've been telling people...I had a buddy who was an editor at a major magazine in New York City—that's where I live—and he was pitching one of my Epstein stories to his boss who definitely wouldn't publish anything that Bryant would write but he would try it once a year nonetheless

1:14:19 Okay, so here is the editor-in-chief of a major magazine in New York City and she does not think political blackmail exists. I mean if people aren't compromised that's kind of knuckleheads that are running our media. Yeah well like i said i'm not optimistic that much will happen but i'm glad you're at least trying with Epstein justice you have to at least try or what are we really even doing here? We have try to clean this up for our children's sake. I mean, I haven't been a procreator but i know a lot of people that have procreated and guilty our children say this government it's only getting worse and something has to be done about it amen well said justice check it out

1:15:12 All right, Epsteinjustice.com along with all the other links check out The Nick Bryant Podcast it is unique in this space and it's a follow up on so many threads that you would hear about on a show like this or one of his previous books. But Nick, It has been a pleasure! You are a national treasure as far as I'm concerned take care out there Thank you Greg And that's the show, one of the best most detailed and professional investigators of child abuse, child trafficking networks and blackmail operations on this island earth. Conversations are organic and you let it go how it goes but if I had my way we would have split the first hour a little more evenly between Watergate and other stuff

1:15:57 So I would say we probably went a bit deeper on Watergate than we needed to and it hurt our ability to really get to the super juicy stuff that he's been working on, the other threads that he's got on his blog and podcast. But we obviously covered all of that stuff in the second hour And i still think its worth updating everybody's mental file on Watergate To know there was this undercurrent of another process of funneling sex to VIP elite and using it as leverage against them when needed. And then of course some kind of tug-of-war when it comes to controlling or compromising all that information But yeah, of course there's always a deeper story and I definitely didn't know about this layer before Nick's book. I have always just thought the Watergate scandal as presented was pretty mild compared to a lot of the other scandals out there

1:16:57 But now it does make a bit more sense. They were happy to let the conventional story that people know be out there because the truth, the layers beneath that were a lot more damning So I hope a lot of listeners feel the same That it was worth the time investment To have a better understanding Of what really went down there Kind of similarly, I recently learned A bit more about The Monica Lewinsky scandal I always just thought Bill Clinton Was a dog who was just too careless but apparently she was a Mossad asset. And the scandal was exposed when Bill wasn't bending the knee, when Israel wanted their spy back, a guy named Jonathan Pollard. Clinton wouldn't release him so the Lewinsky info and recorded phone calls between them went to Matt Drudge of The Drudge Report. And The Drudge Report exploded over breaking this news and The Drudge Report was also apparently another Mossad cutout

1:17:55 posing as US conservative media. Who really knows, but that sounds like the sort of shit that goes on it explains how the Drudge Report blew up out of nowhere and had this appearance of a small outside operation but it really wasn't It puts the Lewinsky thing in context of everything being a honeypot and everything being a plant to use as leverage for something else entirely It also explains why the Lewinsky scandal was such a big deal when she's really just one of many women that Clinton was messing around with. If you watch some of the documentaries about the Clinton kill list or the Clinton body count and this sort of stuff, A lot of these women that he was accused of having affairs with ended up dead! So what was different in this case? Well probably a bit of this backstory I'm telling ya now

1:18:50 Another side story is that material related to the drug running in Arkansas was about to bubble to the surface, so the media establishment used the Lewinsky story to cover for a much more damaging story. Another typical kind of play really paralleled what we're talking about with Watergate But you know I read these things and I just shrug my shoulders and add it to a pile of most likely true shit that i'll never really know for sure but you can recognize the shape of it when you see the same patterns and playbooks. And looking back at stuff like Watergate, and The Lewinsky Scandal in hindsight with what we know about the world now... It just makes a lot more sense! So yes I looked at the clock around 45 minutes in and thought man I'd love to throw in something else here so we added some of the P Diddy stuff most importantly just that he's going to have the same prosecutor as Glenn Maxwell

1:19:45 a big red flag for justice but something interesting that Nick dug up that people should know and I did some digging on this Andre Damien Williams Jr. fellow, and you might be interested to hear some of this from his Wikipedia page but he attended Harvard Cambridge in Yale of course And in March 2021, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer recommended Williams to be the next U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York and President Joe Biden nominated Williams to serve in that role Upon his confirmation, Williams was slated to oversee cases including the trial of Jeffrey Epstein Associate Glenn Maxwell His office also indicted Sam Bankman Freed In the FTX situation

1:20:30 Now if you've looked into that story, you know it was a big democratic funding embezzlement operation right before the last election. Millions and millions of dollars also a lot of money to Ukraine millions and millions as well And that scandal also deeply damaged crypto's reputation so I would say two birds one stone maybe three birds in this situation And of course the point of having a connected person overseeing such a case is that you cut around the things you don't want exposed and... The election interference with all this extra money, is one of those things that was definitely suppressed. This was also interesting to me Williams was born in Brooklyn New York The son of Jamaican immigrants. The Williams family is from Frome A sugar producing region in Westmoreland Jamaica

1:21:23 So reading between the lines, his parents probably helped some US corporations compromise and control the sugarcane industry in Jamaica. And so in a tit-for-tat way they pulled the strings to bring their son into the pipeline and now he serves as U.S. District Attorney keeping all of the right stuff hidden in these high profile cases How else do Jamaican immigrants have the money or connections to send their kid through the Harvard Cambridge Yale Pipeline? Anyway, we did slide some of that info about him into the first hour but we got so much more done in the extended second hour show. We talked about the victims of the Franklin scandal and some major updates there backing up Paul Benassi and his Johnny Gosch claims finding the house in Colorado very wild

1:22:13 Nick Bryant actually did a podcast episode where he played a recorded interview. He did when he called this pedophile prison guards wife really interesting stuff we got into the hunter s Thompson claims I think i'm more convinced that he was dirty and in that realm than ever, I mean even just the animal abuse stuff that I laid out there just makes me hate the guy And we talked about Derek Brose's Utah investigation. If you remember the last time we talked to Derek Brose, he was starting this investigation about some kind of unsavory network in Utah. Well Nick Bryant has also investigated that or at least gone over Derrick's material and he's on that page and we threw a little icing on the conspiracy cake talking about the occult slash satanic crossover with a lot of this abuse stuff

1:23:08 You know the deal, sign up for PLUS if you like what I do and how i do it. I got one of the best archives in the game and five new shows a month for just eight bucks! And on the subject of liking what I do or not let's see how the last episode went over for PLUS people Matt Leshack Fiat Food...I thought it would be top tier but it's looking like a 4.5 and I think that's a little low Based on the comment section and just my own intuition, I would assume he got dinged a bit because he wrote a Sandy Hook book for the establishment before COVID redpilled him. I did talk to him about that book a little bit off-air and i wouldn't be so quick to dismiss him just over that one thing but also there's a lot of people who dislike Bitcoin

1:24:00 That probably brings it down a peg or two as well, and I'd assume those are the two main reasons. Because the history of The American Diet and pegging it to the gold standard and telling that story so well was just really great stuff for us! People can have their thoughts about Bitcoin—I don't care—to convince anyone about it but as Matt said we know fiat currency is a scam 100% and your money is worth less all the time And Bitcoin might be a scam, but it's probably worth diversifying a little bit or at least divesting from traditional banking that has been fucking us over for our entire lives and beyond.

1:24:40 You really don't have a lot of choices. You can stay in fiat, which 90% of people are doing and their purchasing power just erodes, erodes, erodes or you can engage with some of this unconventional fixed supply stuff that is out there now also I'll just say that if you follow Bitcoin communities you'll constantly see them highlighting mainstream articles with headlines like Bitcoin investors tend to be unhinged psychopaths, or bitcoin is only used for crime. Well these are the exact sort of community hit pieces that the conspiracy-minded people get. To say that bitcoin is propped up by the establishment I mean... That's not true at all! The establishment hates bitcoin they won't even talk about it if they do its negative

1:25:30 There's always games within games so you could say, well they're trying to make it look like an alternative thing and make it seem like the mainstream hates that when really it's a Trojan horse blah blah. Sure I'll never be able to satisfy every concern out there but again going by the shape of things and the perception management done by The Big Machine, the biggest names in finance have always said don't engage with crypto or Bitcoin Until this year and suddenly it's been shown that they are putting their money into this. Why? Because I think they see the whole economy about to collapse, and they're like well screw it we did hate this thing but maybe it will protect a little bit of our wealth before the dollar totally free falls So you don't have to like Bitcoin I don't care But I hope you are doing something to protect your wealth And not just holding fiat but that's up to you

1:26:29 Personally, I'm happy that I listened to Jeff Berwick when I interviewed him many years ago. But whatever let's do the meetup calendar thing before I call it in! The next one on the books is June 8th in Raleigh North Carolina at the Hiberian Irish Pub also on June 8 Palm Bay Florida This is an event set up by a mechanic who wants Teach people about using small engines and generators in a crisis. I think that's a great application for a meetup June 9th, Warren Rhode Island the Guild June 18th Casa Grande Arizona The Hideout Steakhouse June 20th Pasadena California at the Corner Bakery Cafe And June 30th A Poor House Barbecue In Canaan New Hampshire

1:27:23 K-A-N-A-A-N. I think so, but good stuff! If you heard about an event that is near where you live jump on the calendar at highersidemeetups.com and RSVP get more information whatever whatever And if he didn't hear about one near you why wait hop on there make one support a local business and meet some local THC fans But that is the show. Check out what Nick Bryan's been up to, his podcast is definitely different than most! Go listen to me on War Mode if you want to hear me on a more casual hangout conspiracy slash comedy kind of show it was great to have those dudes over to my house and let it all hang out And that's about it take care of you and yours and try to be your best self when everything in the world is trying to make you snap I've done my part

1:28:15 Your move, blackmailing bastards honeypot operation operators and intelligence agents of the whole apparatus. Your fucking move Have a drink in the smoke Listen to the cast We shine a shiny spotlight Put criminals on blast The pinstripe men of mourning And families of finance DuPont, Windsor and Rothschild The kids don't stand a chance The kids don't The kids don't stand the kids don't stand a chance I said the kids don't The kids don't stand the kids don't stand a chance We're looking for the answer to questions never asked So we come to the Carlwood

1:29:18 For the higher side chats, the pinstripe men of morning and families of finance. DuPont Windsor and Rothschild The kids don't stand a chance The kids don't, the kids don't stand. The kids don't stand a chance I said the kids don't, the kids don't stand. The kids don't stand a chance All in shady business We try to get a glance We're working on the number Resistance must advance

1:30:16 The Pinstripe Men of Morning and Families of Finance DuPont, Windsor & Rothschild the kids don't stand a chance The kids don't, the kids don't stand. The kids don't stand a chance I said the kids don't, the kids don't stand. The kids don't stand a chance