Miguel Conner | The Gnostic Orientation, Simulated Realities, & The Occult Elvis

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06:14 It's the end of the world as we know it, but I feel fine. From The Sunshine State, I'm Greg Carlwood and we regularly ponder what is this earthly habitat? Is it a malnourished extremely exploited and almost unrecognizable Garden Of Eden? A barren and exhausted shadow of its original grand design just waiting to be restored to former glory? Maybe a material sandbox for spirit to experience a wider spectrum of experience before coming home to the Godhead to report Or as some say, perhaps we've been trapped in a fallen state ignorant of a greater reality held hostage by our own limited senses and unknowingly incurring the wrath of false gods that have given into their own insanity. And we might ask if we even truly want these questions answered?

06:57 Maybe we've become too comfortable within the confines of our limitations and the real horror is unabashed and absolute freedom. Would we have the stones to confront our own addiction, to the grand illusion and wade into the dark unknown waters of the greater truth beyond? Would we have the courage to walk through the big door at the edge of everything if it ever did open for us?" Well, these are the thoughts and musings of many outsiders who dared to question the authorities of their day and bravely bucked the harsh embrace of so-called divine kingships not so loving arms. Often at the cost of their own lives! And we remember these groups throughout time as Gnostic connected and held together only by commonalities in their conclusions to big questions in there unwavering commitment to never bending the fucking knee. And you know I say cheers to that and cheers today's returning guest miguel connor,

07:48 The self-described garage philosopher, hedge theologian and general madman across the waters. You know him as the Pope of Gnostic podcasting with Aeon Byte Gnostic Radio and author of two volumes of Voices Of Gnosticism As well as the post apocalyptic vampire epic series The Dark Instinct Trilogy And the fantasy novel The Executioner's Daughter He is a true fellow traveler on the long trail of taboo and heretical thoughts & ideas that the system says to dare not think Our Gnostic Times timekeeper and curator of the virtual Alexandria, Miguel. Welcome back! Ground control to Major Tom. Thanks for having me back I think the stars are aligned whether we're gonna get Cthulhu or Sophia, I think we'll find out in this interview Indeed and this is a real pleasure I can't believe it's been seven years since the first time We did this way back in the much simpler times of 2017 Obviously long overdue but one of the main catalyst for this is your upcoming conference astro Gnosis 3

08:51 This time focusing on sofia and simulated realities in wheaton illinois august ninth and ten i'm actually going to get out of the house for this one to meet you chris noel steven the spider snyder mitch horowitz and. More people who enjoy their work and would like to interview all the same weekend some of my favorite cellmates in this false reality but give people a pitch what's it all about, Well, I mean as you and i know we have benefited in this internet age. We can bitch all we want but it is such an amazing gift almost a miracle that we can interact online. We can share ideas online the world is both a better at worst place because of it

09:35 I'm very grateful, but at the end of the day it's just pixels. I see you and your audience hears you but its completely fake so a little bit less fake is always going to be getting together making connections creating egregores The real gnosis or the real intense ideas are shared, not just during presentations but in the hallways at parties when everybody's sort of smoking and drinking their stuff. So basically I started this unique and soul-gnostic conference that actually was a friend of mine Ivan who lives in Mexico

10:14 He's an expert at the I Ching and one day years ago he said, let's say I just got this message from the Oracle. You should do a Gnostic conference so we did it and it was 2022 spring equinox everything was still locked down you know you still had to wear masks on the plane you still had to get tests I mean it was almost insanity they told us when the oracle told him do it in Cancun So we did and it was a success. Sometimes these things work like you showing up, Gordon was traveling that area from Australia so he was the speaker Chris was able to go, we got a good group and went to see the pyramids, had parties...so it was awesome!

11:00 So we did one last year at the Theosophical Society here in Wheaton, Illinois because the energy there is amazing and their library, their gardens. I mean you could feel the energy and we did our second one on the Archons big success so now we're doing the third one on as you said Sophia and simulated realities We got a great group as you said we got Chris Knowles, Steven Snyder. We've got Richard Smalley and Mitch Horowitz. We've got professors whose expertise is AI and where the occult in AI. We've got astrologers will also have workshops interactive workshops and meditations because you want to make it as experiential as possible so you will get those altered states there'll be some tarot readings

11:50 Fun stuff authors will be there signing books and we will have a social event afterwards Which is always just a lot of fun And it's again these connections are so powerful and they stay with you for a long time. So Just trying to keep it real, or at least another form of reality which is the face-to-face talk as you know in your show. They want to keep us separated they want us in our houses they want divide and conquer and for us to order online never leave our homes isolated so they can mine our brains and this is just one way to fight the empire I love it yeah if ya don't go

12:31 The empire winds people i guess if we can't get past the big simulation at least we can transcend the digital one i love it, so last time we did the nasty system 101 stuff but i was thinking more about this serious of it all and when we talk about the set the ends or the cars. These are groups of people who really are the original conspiracy theorists at a time when kings and priest classes would kill you for even having alternative takes on reality or doubting the dominant paradigm of the day. And oftentimes that is what happened and we're left to learn about these people usually from the ones who slaughtered them in mass right?

13:13 Yes indeed, I mean the Gnostics 2000 years ago were talking about oh we live in a simulation. Oh there's these shadowy figures that are pulling the strings oh the individual is this complex this complex universe within itself that needs to be explored. Oh, there should be a divine feminine in Christianity for balance sake and we've forgotten the ancient gods like Asherah and Anath. And they were saying these things and they were branded as narcissist insane all of that and suddenly 2 000 years later

13:53 They seem to be vindicated, Greg. Because all these ideas are very acceptable—even scientific when you think about it! So that's what happens when you try to pull the veil and that's what happened with the Gnostics as you said about being individualist I think The Secret Book of John says we are a generation without a king Clement of Alexandria says the Gnostics are so addicted to the truth that they will never give an oath. They were the original anarchists, the original conspiracy theorists – they were called paranoid and you guys are seeing too much – 2000 years ago by their church fathers, and as Chris Knowles very astutely says, they were history's first UFO cult

14:39 As Eric Davis says, they had a sci-fi sensibility about universes of light and these creatures behind the stars that are controlling us. So my work is to show how relevant and powerful these Gnostic ideas are. And of course as we talked before the interview I like to show that they also had a dark side when i tell people and people don't accept in this divide conquer dualistic is Jung is right, everything casts a shadow. Everything has its dark side Christianity Islam Atheism You and I have shadows It's a cosmic law And nothing is completely good and completely bad in Gnosticism despite it's ability to break through reality And champion the individuality of every human being Of course it has a dark side

15:33 Well said and for all jordan peterson's faults one thing i always liked that he said, Was that you can't really truly be good unless you've wrestled with your shadow and you recognize your capacity for evil or just say doing damage. If you don't understand the capacity in your ability to really wreck havoc on the people around you then you're just naive, we all know people who are good hearted good natured and kind of simple And it's like, well that's what he is talking about there as opposed to someone who has maybe had a reckless youth and tore through a few bad relationships and did their fair share of damage then realize oh shit I'm actually pretty powerful. Actually can hurt people really badly and i don't want to do that so now im gonna rise the occasion of being a better person i think that makes a lot of sense

16:32 These Gnostic peoples, they didn't want a corrupt liaison to enlightenment. They wanted direct experience and I think that's a noble thing! And i brought this up early because there's a perspective and conspiracy culture today that considers the modern elites orientation to be nasty. They seek the stolen gifts of prometheus send through science and technology, seek to append god's creation quote unquote the mark of the beast is the smartphone or the vaccine passport of the qr code and space programs are all trying to jailbreak this reality as futile as it might be

17:10 But when we see the disdain that human elite have for life, nature, the ecosystem it becomes very evil or at least mean spirited. But if this is a simulated reality of false reality under the thumb of false insane gods and archons does it even matter? If they're trying to tinker under the hood of a false reality in a way it kind of doesn't Yeah, that's the argument you could make but I don't see it as valid. Again it is the old saying, don't watch what they say watch what they do and historically the Gnostics are the most eco-friendly of western culture. The Manichaeans would not walk on grass because they felt God was in every blade of grass and completely vegetarian

18:04 The Cathars and the Manichaeans and others thought that the divine spark was in every animal, and some thought it was in every rock or stone. Nature was indeed... they weren't pantheists, they were panatheists! In other words God is in everything He's imminent in everything So our job as humans is to bring that divinity out in each other the entire world, jailbreak the divine part of the world. And you can take it as literally or metaphorically as you want that's up to you tell people your mileage may vary

18:43 So they were pacifists, they were vegetarian. And we hear from the inquisitors and church fathers that they were the nicest people, the Cathars were called The Good Ones. They cared about their community and all that so it was their ideas and rituals that really the powers-that-be thought were dangerous. The idea that Gnostics reject or hate the world... false worlds. That's what they kept pushing, and I kept saying look the world in front of you is not real you're not real there's a deeper part of you and nature that you're not looking at sure we can look at a nice sunset or you can look at the beach

19:26 But there's much more. You're not looking at the full reality, there is a deeper divinity that brings a sense of ecstasy but also a deeper suffering that we mostly miss We can look at nature or people and no see how they are suffering And if we don't see how they're suffering, we can't take the steps to help them and heal them. Gnosticism at its core as April De Coninck and other scholars have said was a about healing. Healing your mind, healing the world, and healing your soul then healing people's physical bodies some of the rituals which just 2000 years ago just sitting around talking about your problems

20:06 And the other one too was to be fully human. People think that the Gnostics were about, oh I'm going to escape the world and fly away No! You make contact with this alien god and this alien god transforms you into a human It was the Hermeticists who said that we humans have a special place in this universe We are not the gods but we're not animals...we are the mediators We are where the fallen angel meets the rising ape borrowing from it a writer. So when we know our place in this universe, when we're fully human, we can change things so well in the way that the gods and animals will appreciate our role in the universe." I hope I didn't go too much on a tangent there, Greg! No, that's really interesting to me because I think there is a perspective where a lot of people take this logical track of, well Gnostics think were in a simulation and thus

21:04 They don't respect it and wanna break it. And the simulation is the world we know, the physical world we know so... It's interesting though to hear that they actually had reverence for it and they just were trying to say no there's stuff underneath interconnectivity to everything and maybe a bit of an animist perspective, and that's maybe what they were trying to express. Very true because for the origins of Gnosticism since we last talked I think scholarship is putting them more into ancient Egypt they were the carriers of these ancient Egyptian mysteries that really expanded your consciousness

21:43 But the other one too is that the Gnostics were smuggling this ancient animist spirit of Asherah and Anat, and other spirits that were suppressed by the cult of Yahweh when Judaism decided during the reigns of King Josiah and Hezekiah they decide alright we want to cult of Yahweh this male powerful God to be it And they suppressed the Shira and the ancient animism and shamanism of Solomon, the prophets. Some say, like Margaret Barker who's one of the greatest biblical scholars of today that basically the Gnostics hid Asherah in this magic and then brought it out during the Greco-Roman times. And basically Sophia is Asherah Christ is the original concert of Asherah before

22:37 It got changed around, and the Aeons are just the ancient spirits of this animistic world that the Hebrews lived in. And they were sort of smuggling them around through Jesus, through Simon Magus, through Mary Magdalene... I think that's an interesting theory, and like... And i'm just mentioning because you did say animism is yes. And Gordon would agree there is an animistic sense to the Gnostics when Gordon and I talk we say yeah but they really went for the trickster part of shamanism too then when you read that gnostic gospels Jesus Sophia they fall into the trickster mentality so

23:13 Originally also they really perhaps it was set. Perhaps it was Hermes, perhaps there was some trickster spirit But that's where they leaned into with the trickster mentality Mm-hmm Yeah I think this is really useful because The conspiracy minded person I think sometimes gets paranoid about am I on the right team? Am I falling for some deception and my being tricked and incepted into a bad mythos and a bad way of looking at the world. And it's really hard to unravel because history is full of just propaganda and misdirection, and you have to put these people in their time and place like there's an argument to say that most of Western society the history of authority kind of boils down to trying to monopolize people's thoughts largely about the spiritual

24:08 you know, Christianity and Catholicism for a long period of time and killing off any competition to this narrow perspective where we will be the liaison to your enlightenment. And I think that's pretty valid as a perspective but when you put these people back in their time in place, their rebellion makes perfect sense it was a bloody deadly time for anyone who dared challenge the paradigm but today because we are kind of free to have most heretical thoughts, you see this huge contingency of the conspiracy culture drifting towards being a good little conventional Christian. And that seems odd to me. I think we're supposed to be rebels and that tendency doesn't feel very rebellious to me but i could see how only in this little particular time and place it kind

25:02 Is because it's the opposite of atheism which is kind of a dominant scientism atheism thing but. If you take the longer arc of human history this has been kinda the control mechanism the weaponized philosophy of most of that story i would agree i think great my ideas is that, Yes, you see a lot of individuals again Jordan Peterson Who was what's the name of the comedian? He was Katy Perry's husband Russell Brand Russell brand. You see it too with colleagues and acquaintances that really going into Christianity and they've turned on me about Gnosticism and I am compassionate because I realized

25:46 2016, I think is when this mess started. I like to say David Bowie died or whatever something was happening in 2016 and we got the greatest trickster of them all Trump and then we had this fog of war with the lockdown's with everything that's happened there was a great awakening but this brought a lot of chaos or We had to face the chaos people had to see That our government was a lie, that our history is a lie. That we are a lie? That's the other step into That is hard to swallow. So it makes sense that a lot of people would want to go to Yahweh in the Bible because He is the God of order, and he says it. There's Christianity—you do these steps you read this book everything's gonna work out just have faith so I could see it but I think people like you and I Greg know we know how to surf the chaos We've been doing it all our lives so we don't have a problem

26:48 feeling like we're fake or that our history is a lie, or going deeper into all these conspiracies and balancing them out. We embrace the trickster spirit which leads to innovation and new ideas in a new world but I can understand people going into Greek orthodoxy as very popular in the conspiracy theory world isn't it? So I understand people want order because We live in a time of chaos, of the trickster. But I hate to tell them we are just getting started! Hang on for the ride because don't you feel Greg? We are just at the tip of the iceberg when it comes to revelations conspiracy religions...we're just getting warmed up. Yeah i do agree with that and if you can't take the heat now wow i mean it's only going to get hotter go to a monastery if that'll make you happy yeah yeah

27:45 And i also like to say we're exploring ideas you cannot come to a paradigm or philosophy with confidence if u haven't explored all the ideas just because i interview us scholar of crowley does not mean advocating. a follower of crowley i'm trying to see if i've been lied to about this guy or if my intuitions are correct and we have to do that we have to try on different hats, define the one that truly fits us and if you're. Demonizing a person for exploring ideas i think your no better than the bad guys you know you say virtual alexandria this is a place to share ideas in that sky your whole branding as were

28:29 Talking about heretical ideas i like that you use heretic as like a badge of honor in a sense and we're lucky that we have the ability and freedom to go into those radical ideas but today's radical idea is are the conspiracies you know cuz spirituality basically stripped out of mainstream culture and now it's radical to doubt climate science to doubt virus science to doubt all this kind of stuff. You know, you can't doubt that America's the good guys fighting the evil around the world but let's bring this back to agnostic sect that people know, the Cathars and try to flush this out because a lot of it does relate to their reputations I've read estimates that 200 thousand to 1 million people were killed by the church in the case of the Cathars

29:19 And then the church says, well we did that because these people were bad. They were doing dark evil things And it feels like a recurring theme in this place that kings and presidents and priests and popes lead campaigns to slaughter huge numbers of people that they can't seem to control. But because they tell their obedient masses, these people were savage Indians or freedom-hating terrorists or Satan worshipping magic users... People say oh okay well I'm glad you got them then because who knows what kind of damage they could have done? And it's just so weird that little trick works when these are the people doing the massive damage, brutally slaughtering huge groups of people because they're doing things their own way or just doing things differently. It's wild how we accept that propaganda when we know who the mass murderers are but how does this play into the stories of the Cathars and other groups that are considered Gnostics? Because from a certain perspective

30:20 they have a really bad reputation. And that's because when you kill a bunch of people and you destroy all their material, and then you get to tell the world about them, they usually seem bad but I guess correct the record on that and talk to us about how we even get good information about these groups when so much of it was destroyed? Well again it just takes gathering of scholarship because you're right we have no surviving cathar It's everything that was said through the Inquisitors. And I should mention that the Inquisition started with the Cathars, that's when the Church really used their experiment at controlling society and projecting their shadow on a minority and grabbing their lands and all of that. They went to the Cathars then they started moving to Jews and women—whoever was in their way, classic same as it ever was.

31:16 We know even from records that we have, the Cathars again as I mentioned were very eco-friendly. They were beloved by their people in Southern France and that Providence they were enlightened It was a great time in the 12th 13th century where you had Cabalists and Cathars women had more rights And it was just a beautiful place. Some say that alchemy was being practiced in southern France, I've had guests talk about magical portals so it was a beautiful time but something like this was just not going to be allowed to exist because again the church was starting to centralize itself and it needed to make an example out of people and again the Cathars and their ideas

32:02 Pretty much how, again we live in a simulation. By then you know 1,000 years later the idea of the demiurge was lost so Satan was the demiurge he was the creator of this world they called him the king of this world bringing in Titanic, the Cosmo Crater, the Rex Mundi and he was keeping us trapped. We were basically angels that had been convinced or duped into being human and through certain rituals we could awaken to ourselves. The Cathars rejected the Old Testament they only read really the Gospel of John and a few others there's certainly evidence that the Cathars and the Knights Templar were rubbing shoulders because

32:46 Well, there's a lot of evidence on that one too if you want to get into it. And we also have reconstructions of their Gospels and their mythology and all that so I think its pretty valid this day in age We've separated the wheat from the chaff What we have is a complete horrible tragedy that should never happen The Cathards did not survive There are rumors that some of them may, but for the most part they were yeah hundreds of thousands including Catholics were destroyed. You know that saying kill them all and let God sort them out? That was, I think the Bishop of Toulouse or one northern French royal who said that. He asked the church you know the Cathars are mixing up with the Catholics kind of like today with the...you have the Hamas and the Palestinians and the bishop was like kill him all! God will know his own

33:40 So again, this sort of rhythm happens throughout history. As Mark Twain said, history doesn't repeat but it certainly rhymes and it goes back to the simulation right Greg? It's almost like there is a theme we cannot get out of. Yeah! Its just so crazy how the propaganda works you just say well they were doing bad things so we slaughtered them in mass burned them at the stake and We saved you and it's like what were they doing that was worse than what you just did but when we talk about magic like that another huge avenue of propaganda i would say where. I consider it,

34:19 To be just like flexing are deeper largely unacknowledged muscles that's kinda what i think magic is maybe sign mental muscle you could say. And obviously authorities never want us to have any personal power so it's considered an evil taboo we hear stories that the nights temp law were worshipping bop a met, for power and kissing each other assholes as if god would care and then purposely trying to offend God and appeal to demons who take glee in that. But we're told this by the people who were torturing the Knights Templar, burning them alive, and grinding their ideology down to dust." So I think it's pretty clear to see who the bad guy is in that story but what would you say about some of these groups who are practicing magic? The Cathars like

35:07 Like they're blending magic and Christianity in a way, at least that's the gist that I see. And that is the thing that allows the door to open to the propaganda of well they're drinking children's blood and it's like well i think there's a lot of magic in between drinking people's blood and then something like just paying attention to numerology and astrology you know? It reminds me of people saying, don't try marijuana because all the sudden you're going to be a heroin junkie. And it's like yes some people do there are heroin junkies? Yes that is an extreme and magic could scale up to experimenting with really dark things which I think does happen behind the curtain but i don't know if it's these individuals who are doing it... You say they kind

35:56 committed to purity, celibacy and didn't indulge in earthly pleasures. I almost get kind of a Robin Hood vibe from their attitude of their day amongst their communities and stuff but talk to us a little bit about magic and what we know about Cathar magic and the Knights Templar and all these people who were Christian adjacent but just not Christian enough and had to be killed off? What were they really doing with their magic Well, yeah. For the Templars I certainly would recommend you check out Tracy Twyman and Alex Rivera's Baphomet Secrets Reveal because she makes such an excellent

36:35 argument that Baphomet simply means baptism of Sophia. And she puts this great argument that the Templars, like the Cathars were keeping these ancient Gnostic secrets Now some of them may have been dark some of it may have not been but I think we have to get to the idea of magic because what's the old saying? We practice religion they practice magic Okay What's a you know The Catholic Mass is pretty magical And as I think Robert Conner said, magic is religion for the individual and religion is magic for the masses. So the term is very elastic and gets weaponized many times but what is it? I agree with Gordon White he says magic is being a co-creator with the universe. Of course then there's the Crowley term which is you know a change in consciousness in accordance to the will

37:32 whatever. But I think at the core Gnostics since thousands of years ago were shamanistic, and again this is supported by all latest sober scholarship they were shamanistic they were about altered states of mind to reach higher worlds and receive the healing or information of these higher worlds and these higher beings-the Aeon's. And of course because they were part of the Egyptian matrix, part of this flying out of your body meant you had to deal with the denizens of the stars. These Archons that control the dimensions and you had to give them passwords or

38:12 prayers to overcome them. So it really was sort of this out-of-body journey to meet this alien god or the one of Plato, whatever you want to call it for healing for an expansion of consciousness for answers to your life whatever you want to call it and it wasn't that rare the Neoplatonists certainly did that Merkava Jews the cult of Mithras, the mystery religions. There was a part as they say of every religion where you know there's one side who just wants to do the rituals go to church on Sunday and then just hope I'll be fine in the afterlife but there are always those who have this thirst to look behind the veil and rise through the different worlds and make contact with these higher beings very normal in shamanism today

39:04 ayahuasca with Santo Daime a few times and I have had that experience where all of the sudden i'm like oh shit, I am leaving my body. And I am just journeying up into this world and I am meeting creatures and all that and I am like...I don't care if this is real or not it actually was real! I can prove it But that is something that people perhaps like you and I just have a thirst. And throughout history, the shaman and the witch doctor and the medicine woman were honored—that was their job right? They were the spiritual troubleshooters. They were the ones who went into the spirit world and brought back recipes for medicine and magic spells. It was all to help the tribe. It was to help the tribe grow

39:51 And that as civilization got more left brain, kind of got cut out. We no longer respect the shaman or the Gnostic or the mystic or they have to be under our control like it happens in the Catholic Church with St John and others where that's fine but we'll lock you up but everything has to be within the confines of us. So I think that's what you would say Gnostic magic is, but they had folk magic where you have Gnostic spells where there are healing spells and it'll say do this take that summon this creature and you will be healed or whatever ailment you have

40:29 That's been pretty normal in animism, occultism throughout history. Nothing strange and obviously alchemy came from the Gnostic matrix in Upper Egypt I think that's a great summary there clearly shamans who do operate from ego and they like to abuse the power they've achieved but for the most part it does seem like. A service what i preach the class should be doing and the terms i hear most often are healing hidden knowledge and soul retrieval,

41:04 There's a lot of stories of a person who gets sick and the show is over something going on in the astral plane with your spiritual twin let me go out there and fix that for you and unravel that mess and then they come down in the persons heal it's like what. But it's certainly not evil, it is just bizarre. And I think there's a really also interesting bizarre overlap with modern UFO encounters and people who then come out of that with a call to basically be a shaman. And it's like wow! I wonder if that's how some of this got kicked off in the beginning or if its the safety valve of the universe to be like you need more shamans send out the saucers

41:44 What do you think about that overlap? Yeah, for sure. For sure. UFOs... people who are abducted by UFOs statistically their lives change for the better they get degrees they change their lives they affect others so there is certainly a parallel of making contact with this other with these different intelligence and transforming your lives and again this should not be different I mean As you say, today it has changed. Suddenly psychedelics are more important, altered states of mind are being championed but again there's a lot of hucksters out there and it always comes down to doesn't matter what you're doing have a good hierophant, have a good shaman to take you. It does I mean same in Catholicism when I was a catholic I'd be like

42:33 Oh my God, we joined this church and this priest gives the worst sermons. He has the worst advice during confession but then at another church I'm like, This guy gets it and he's so great." So yeah humans are humans and always find you got to find a good teacher to take you through the other side Indeed and i am kinda with you that i agree that a lot of these things blossoming back into society have been cut out is it good thing its return to form a lot of times it's using things are just in nature, better probably there for the seekers for this exact reasons if.

43:09 The creator of this world didn't ever want us to know if anything else then there wouldn't be mushrooms growing around and we grown it's called weed for a reason that pretty easy to grow if you let it grow. And there is this modern conspiracy framing that transhumanism, Is nasty that's the dominant of the day i agree that it's the dominant up. Of the day in the trajectory that they're trying to push us towards where we are kind of enslaved through technology but that's not. Nasty to me like you could say that people looping the trans agenda and well there trying to make a soul just this big blob person that's half cyborg

43:53 And that's another form of enslavement. That's not enlightenment, that's just a deeper level of enslavement to technology. It's a weaponized Gnosticism it's a red herring like you say you need people you can trust on the journey because there is a lot of hucksters and there is a lot of people trying to take a truth and then Twist it down a dark alley and now you're stuck and i think that's what transhumanism is i don't think its necessarily not stick on its surface you look at the matrix in usa as a nasty tailing involves the machines taking over and so does trans humanism is not sick but no it's using some cherry picked aspects of narcissism to sell u another delusion because they are always selling us some

44:43 negative perspective. And so that's what I see is like, you have to make the case you have to make the sale as they say You can't just say oh well we're trying to enslave you all We're trying to fuck your whole world up! You can't say that you got a sell people on it So that's what i think they're doing is selling it in this Gnostic Transhumanist next evolution of man kind of thing but It's just another dark alleyway Oh yeah for sure again As I mentioned and the Gnostic texts are very focused on this, and you see it in their rituals. It's not about leaving your humanity or evolving, it is about embracing your humanity! I mean the Gnostics like other ancients and shamans believe we've got everything we need to be healthy, to be sane

45:28 to be powerful. We are innately magic, we have the as a hermeticist says as above so below as within so without. We are in the universe but the universe is in our minds. The human mind is limitless and it can heal our body find solutions and that's what the Gnostics were championing. I mean, look at The Matrix Neo doesn't defeat the agents in the first movie because he figures out some technology He just simply wakes up to his own humanity To his own innate power to see beyond the simulation So yeah, I would say transhumanism is a corrupt form of Gnosticism obviously tools are important as the myth of Prometheus goes

46:14 Zeus didn't give us claws or wings or all that cool stuff. We were just hairless monkeys, so Prometheus the trickster had to give us fire from the gods, or again The Watchers had to give us tools too You have this story Anunnaki all that our power is that we are able to use the technia the technology To better ourselves and stand up against Olympus against the Anunnaki but We're not supposed to meld like the Borg or something else into cyborgs. The technology is an extension of our mind and our potential as humans. Yeah, well said! Well said... And maybe this is a stupid stoner thought I haven't even smoked today but I've smoked enough that I don't know if I'm ever truly not high

47:03 But it's like the five most dangerous words to the system, whether it's religion government at any point in history are pretty much. I have everything I need yeah. I think that's kind of interesting because it's like I don't need your religious authority and I just don't need you and the system loves to be needed and likes to make you feel inadequate hey there is a hole and we're gonna fill up for ya And i think that's the way the system is always operated you have to make the person feel inadequate lesser than and then use a will we got the solution right here, and it's just that simple but. You mentioned that you could prove that your experiences were real and i think anyone who has their own out of body psychedelic transformative experience knows what they need to know but how would you say that you could prove that it was real

48:00 Well, I'm glad you asked Greg because i do have the proof. This was one of my first ones, I think it was 2006. It was a huge group in Portugal. My uncle is the shaman and head of the Portuguese Iberian Church. We were doing ayahuasca for hours. You're playing instruments and dancing. You sing hokey Christian songs but somehow they keep you grounded. But as we're doing it, I just sat down and started leaving my body. And I am going up and up and I'm leaving the church which is next to my uncle's house he built a church next to it...and I'm going up into this place of complete darkness void and its stirring! And I look up and say, It's Abraxis! I call this being Abraxis and it was staring back at me

49:02 And I had this horrible sense of negativity or maybe it was just this sort of scary awe. If i keep going, this being of Raxus is just gonna swallow me because I have noticed IT! As this was happening my aunt she's in the house next door Greg she had a broken leg and she said that in the middle of the night because it was really late she woke up and she said if Miguel doesn't come down he's never gonna come back So my aunt gets in a chair with her broken leg and she's got to broom. She goes out of the house, she's going around the corner of the neighborhood. And suddenly my uncle says he thought everything was fine I was sitting there again orchestrating the entire event. My aunt suddenly like bursts in and she's like

49:52 screaming at my uncle, wake me up. He's too far out he's not coming back and I was like holy shit so he looks around sees i'm over there in one part of the room and he goes and he did like shakes me and suddenly In my head I am coming down and I woke up and I'm like oh hey And he was like, whoo. Then my aunt was like, Oh, thank God so how did she know that I wasn't trouble and that I will speak because not everybody gets an out of body experience some people have vision some people just get high Some people just get emotional It's kind of rare for somebody to leave their bodies unless it's intense How did she know at that time to wake up and give me? So there is something there There was something there Greg

50:36 Hell yeah that mirrors my own experience when i went out of body I could see from a bird's eye view the two friends. I was with shaking me in the chair like trying to get me to wake up and i was watching like, can either go back and make them more comfortable or i can go see what's going on appear in this weird experience i'm having but i could come back and then at the end of it explain what i thought happened and i'm like i could see you guys shake in me and they're like yeah we were doing that might well yeah mean Not exactly as extreme a confirmation as your own but somewhere in the ballpark of what people experience without about it near death experiences on the surgery table you know when they see things in the operating room. That that shouldn't be able to see from up above so yeah i think all that stuff is very real and

51:23 To come back to the Cathars a little bit, I interviewed Richard Stanley recently who I know you've talked to also. His passion for the Cathars and the liminal spaces in the south of France is very contagious! There is a lot of mystery around Cathar treasure and magical secrets and things like The Holy Grail and their castle of Mont Ségur, I think that's how it's pronounced but How's your interest in the sex ever slipped over into trying to sort out the stories of their lost treasures and mystique around that sort of stuff.

52:01 Not really. I mean, I like the classical Gnostics because they were closer to the as we're talking the shamanistic ritual, the entheogens, the alchemy all this fun stuff they were dabbling with and to me that cathars it's not even I mean is of talk to Richard and it's the portals that are there the energies that are there. I would love to go down there with Richard he lives there in Southern France I mean, I've heard he does these rituals with no drugs. No nothing and he will get you to the frickin altered state of mind where you will be watching spirits and he has this wisdom and he knows all these rituals that exercise unlike Oh, I gotta get there but also because i think that area has an energy of portals. I don't know if you're familiar with Patrice Chaplin she is the granddaughter of Charlie Chaplin she went down to southern Spain

52:56 and she found this secret society that included Jacques Cocteau and others where they were playing with these portals. And she did the research, she also did the rituals which were amazing, and she found out yeah there's something about southern Spain, southern France even Portugal that there are all of these portals that people use maybe that is what attracted the Cathars who knows or the Templars You can just go into these amazing worlds if you do them and you know, there's many theories There's a black meteorite that fell there. There some people call Lucifer Although some think that there was a black meteor they might have been from Kaibel I mean There's many theories of why it was something the Romans left or was it even older but that area man? Yeah, it's like

53:44 Sometimes I'm like, man we need to have astrognosis there next year and just trip out. We won't come back. I was just gonna say Astro Gnosis 4 let's make it happen! I'll even go Havzes with you it'll be higher gnosis and we can even loop Gordon in higher gnosis soup the real deal or loop Chris in secret higher noses soup averages take us to where we need to go man i mean when i did that interview i felt like we were really kindred spirits we had a great time good vibe he was smoking the whole time as you did in your interview too and it was the first joint i smoked in my new house here because i don't really smoke in the house cuz of kids but i was like

54:24 I got to share a joint here. I got to share a smoke with Richard Stanley, at least digitally because we're just so in the weeds and having a good time." And that'll always be something I remember. I had a joint, i mean i don't know what he was smoking, i think he rolls his own cigarettes because he's smoking too but it looks very much like a joint but i had a smoke with the director of colorado space. What a movie yeah and thats fun thats a good thing this is why the job isn't so bad right? Yeah great movie Amanda Radcliffe, they used to date now they're friends. She's also a priestess of the Order of Mary Magdalene and all that and she helped do the rituals at the beginning so they're all authentic you know? At the beginning the protagonist is a pagan and that straight out of Salima in other traditions So Amanda Radcliffe also is amazing I think she moved to England before while she was there in Southern France

55:22 Last time you did mention Charlie Chaplin's granddaughter and that whole thing, and she has been on my list of people to interview. And it has been seven years! I mean that is how long my list is let us just say for the people who are constantly firing off requests from me. But last time we also talked about the Yazidis and the Sufis and the Mandeans these maybe modern Gnostic sects which I really know very little about basically only their names And they're still being hunted to extinction or they were at the time of that last conversation is there any new information about their plight since we last talked in twenty seventeen no unfortunately they have been still a terrible conditions they are moved away.

56:10 I know Chris and recluse Steven Snyder have a lot of research that talks about, i don't know if i can say it on your show P-E-D-O of Sufism how rampant it is. I haven't gone down that rabbit hole yet but again I want to hear all the arguments even though i like Sufism myself. Everything has a shadow right? You know kids are the greatest treasure for the archons and elite and all that we know that, it's unfortunate you and I hopefully expose some of this stuff so at the conference ask him about that I'll join you guys but not much into the Yaciti

56:49 I guess Gordon makes a good argument in Starships that the Ysidi actually might be thousands of years old, a primordial religion. It is Gnostic for sure they have this cosmology where they have Malek-Taus, this fallen angel that falls into this world and then controls the world very Gnostic although they don't see the angel as bad he's just part of the system I do have a few articles on the parallels of the Yaciti and the ancient Gnostics as well as the Mendeans and a few other groups there, but that's another conversation we can have. Yeah it's really hard to get information on some of these situations because they don't really have advocates and they don't have any real

57:40 media apparatus to advocate for them and the more you learn about the world, the more you learn that there are genocides and atrocities constantly happening. And the news only wants you to focus on a couple of them because there's some advantageous reason for the capstone cabal to focus on that maybe say oh well there's some crazy shit going on in the Congo probably stirred up by the CIA probably because there's resources there that they need So that becomes a story. Obviously, the Middle East is as a story but I've heard there's like five or six different genocides going on right now and we only know about maybe one of them and that's a sad thing. It's hard to not be ignorant of it because it's just kind of a closed door that is really hard to open where would you go for the information on some of this stuff?

58:33 That classic phrase, the more you think you learn the more you know. You don't know anything. Yeah yeah and nothing is real and never believe the official story was that I was listening...I don't watch podcasts because The Bowie & Elvis Book have just like sucked all the air out of the room but i listened to The Corbett Report And for two hours he had a great argument that everything we were taught about Rwanda was a lie. You know, we think of the two groups and one group killing with machetes and killed a million people and all that... The genocide did happen but it was actually there were forces behind there you know? The forces Israel, United States England Belgium! You know, the usual characters were sort of fueling this conflict then Of course we're never told that

59:23 They will give us a little truth and corrupt it with lies or just take away enough of the details so we buy into some really false stories. Same as it ever was with pretty much everything. Yes, and James Corbett one of the greats but... It is about that time! i always like talking to you it's weird because there are certain people like you that like a look at my man we've only done one interview before really. But i feel like your fellow traveler and just feel like we connect more than we really do in an odd sense, but thank you for coming back to talk to me before i cut you loose remind people of all the irons have enough fire maybe some favorite recent interviews the conference all that good stuff

1:00:07 Yeah, Astronosis is August 9th and 10th at the Theosophical Society. Let's see if we talk to spirits and it's gonna be a blast! It's gonna be great to see you there Greg so check it out that my website then obviously my web page is thegodabovegod.com That's my hub right? AM by Gnostic Radio, my podcast books, videos articles anything any way you want to approach understanding Gnosticism or Hermeticism You can find it there. I do have my books but i am excited again for April of next year It's gonna be the Elvis book It's called The Occult Elvis The Magical Life Of The King Working on right now on the draft for Bowie book so that could take years out of no I let the spirits take me I have no expectations

1:00:59 I also have a tarot that we released this year, the Gnostic Tarot. I have the Virtual Alexandria Academy of people it's like 18 videos courses people really liked it and if you want to learn about gnosticism that's one way to do it Heck yeah and you definitely have a lot of great interviews sometimes we overlap but you have much tighter focus which is really impressive i think i would run out of material if i had such a tight focus that's why i'd like to cast a wide net do little this do some forty and stuff do some conspiracy stuff. Dr joanna cuyaho was one your most recent guests

1:01:41 She is really fascinating and she definitely opened my eyes up to the idea of a true kundalini experience. What that even is and how to try to make sense of it but there is a real argument there that the divine feminine was suppressed because of a enlightened woman's ability to give this experience and all roads too Enlightenment, psychedelics everything must be suppressed. And how do you suppress this if it's inside of a woman? You got to suppress the whole being so just in the same way psychedelics were suppressed in the church and like we will be your liaisons to anything greater and that's it. You could say the same thing about women. It made me think that the reason for all that was a little deeper than it seems on the surface

1:02:35 For sure, if you can suppress women you can control nature. I think it's a very basic thing and again women are the portals to the chaos that Jordan Peterson talks bad about but we need balance. We need chaos, order divine feminine These energies are part of our individuation and you can't suppress one or another just like you can't suppress your shadow and expect things are gonna go well because suppressing your shadow brings a lot of pain and destruction to your sanity so Time to restore these things and don't be afraid. If you're not careful, you just may learn something and you may just end up finding out who you are. Ah amen! Look at that a real pro You know how to stick a landing Well I very much look forward to meeting you in the gang next month i hope some THC fans come out since there is so much overlap between our two worlds And that said I'll see you in a few weeks Awesome thanks for having me on

1:03:39 Man, how the time does fly. One of my favorite podcasters in the game Miguel Conner I just can't believe we haven't done this more often But The Archive don't lie And I hope i'm getting this episode out in time for a few Midwestern THC fans to have the time to plan to make the pilgrimage out to the event It is so rare for me to pull the trigger on something like this, but meeting Miguel, Chris Knowles and Stephen Snyder in person in the same weekend is worth it for me. And I would imagine a lot of people listening understand that and probably agree So come out! It happens to be... A perfect time and place for me on a personal level My dad requested no funeral He just wants his ashes buried under a tree in our food forest That we're In the slow process of flushing out

1:04:29 But his roots have always been in Chicago and he's still got several siblings there. My cousin, closest thing to a brother that I have is also there and i think it would be nice to at least see his side of the family and have a meal in remembrance so I'm going to be fitting that into the evenings and spending time at the event by day my wife is great and thinks this would be good for me So its on! And I hope some THC fans make it out I don't really foresee any other real-world stuff from me for a while, but Miguel was also cool enough to give Plus members a coupon code for the event. Obviously real world events like this have a ton of costs and it's an undertaking that I wouldn't ever want to endure

1:05:16 So it's not like he can just put a code out there to all listeners, but even something for Plus members is a really generous thing. So I figured the best way to communicate the code in a way that it's only accessible to Plus members Probably just to do something super rare and say it now and redact it for the free version of the show. So, for 20% off physical tickets either normal or the VIP that gets you into the social event in the evening And for 15% off online tickets so yes even if you can't physically be there You can still see all the presentations online and still get a discount ThankYouMiguel

1:05:59 So, Plus people will hear that added information and free listeners will not. All people can find the links to get tickets in the show notes but of course the code won't be there and the code saves you more than $8 anyway so think about that and maybe join Plus and then work your magic if ya know what I mean? But yes, you can go there physically and you can get all the presentations with an online pass. And that also has a coupon code for Plus Members! With that said still a great time talking to Miguel he knows Gnosticism as well as anyone his guests on this show really present a very wide range of thoughts and opinions on it in various ways

1:06:44 And I think he's really good at handling the question, which is if Gnosticism is a dark philosophy or spiritual orientation as he would say. And just as conspiracy researchers with a Christian perspective tend to say well in my paradigm bad things come from Satan thus the esoteric elite are Satanists Which obviously to me isn't oversimplification used to confirm one's worldview. It seems like the same could be said about Gnosticism, in that for an individual it is about transcendence and taking your life into your own hands and developing your spiritual self through direct experience and discipline? I'm pro that! As well as the broad idea of awakening to deeper realities all around us—it's the whole they-live conspiratorial awakening

1:07:36 And I do think that's a spiritual experience, A Conspiratorial Awakening. But obviously around here we like to talk that talk and walk that walk Now a Christian might say well the elite hate God so they're trying to break his creation and push transhumanism... ...and THAT'S Gnostic! but i see transhumanism as a deeper deception. A matrix within a matrix As Miguel said You know, what is so transcendent about living in VR or merging further with the artificial? It seems like they're trying to make reality so uncomfortable for us physically and financially that we hurt ourselves into a deeper digital pen where we can live as avatars of our ideals without ever having to do the work. You can just be a wizard or a superhero or... A dog that gets walked on a leash if you're into that!

1:08:30 And we can spend our time in very big, epic expansive digital worlds from our studio apartment in a dystopian smart city. If you've seen Ready Player One you know exactly what I'm talking about That is the trajectory the Elite have us on and...I don't really see it as Gnostic. I do not see it as transcendent because its not breaking out and up It's digging down and in I do find it somewhat compelling when guests say that the elite see themselves as the good guys, and i don't know if that's true. I think Bill Gates and Fauci and Klaus Schwab know they're dark people with dark agendas And I'll never know what is in their heads or hearts but just the seeking of power and accumulation of wealth seems to suggest to me That they aren't under some illusion or assumption that they are doing good

1:09:22 Let's just follow that train of thought for a minute let say that they do some mental gymnastics. That lead them to think a global pandemic is needed to increase global security the ends justify the means kinda thinking well if they have some spiritual beliefs that are attached to that and i think there being limited by a tyrannical demiurge, then maybe there's a logic in there somewhere that they feel that reality must be pushed up against in any and all ways possible. Messing with the genetic codes of life, pushing to get out up into space physically etc., etc... And that goal is so important that the fallout is worth it You know you got to crack a few eggs to make an omelette and all that I suppose there could be something there but all this comes down to how you personally want to frame it A lot of it is

1:10:15 if this then that kind of thinking. And Gnostic is so broad that you can make it whatever you want, but I appreciate a rebel philosophy." If you take these groups back to the context of their time religious authorities were basically the state So they'd look at the authority of their day and say You're insane! You're corrupt! and so is this being that you say your worshipping? And I'm not about that When we talk about some world events mirroring the book of revelation and the mark of a beast, you can't have commerce without it. And it might be this smartphone or some kind of QR chip tattoo. This sort of material. Or when look at Tower of Babel story where people built a tower that got to the upper heavenly realm and God said fuck you guys smashed it and corrupted all the language

1:11:12 Well, it seems as if the being that runs this physical place is not shy about wiping it out and killing everybody. If it doesn't like what we're doing That would be the flood myth and all that And then you got to ask well Is that the right way to handle a problem? Does handling a problem that way suggest a tyrannical psychopathic insane custodian or just peaceful loving God Again, Miguel's domain is the God above God. We are on the same page that we love The Ultimate Creator being...the good guy up there but maybe there's something else in between us and that thing So again yeah it's all about framing And maybe this is a tale as old as time but should we ever take The State at its word when telling us about the people that it kills?

1:12:08 If what we know about the Sethians and the Cathars and the Knights Templar come from the ones who murdered and tortured them, should we assume that's bullshit? Again if you're conventionally religious you might trust the church. And you might trust their reasoning for doing what they did But I'm a simple man and i say if you're killing large numbers of people not in self-defense then there is no good reason for that. And I apply that logic to any situation, at any time and space but I thought this was a helpful interview and talking through some of that with the person who has really made this material a huge part their life Really it's just talking about ideas...I think sometimes listeners might get way too vested into who thinks what

1:12:56 I actually heard recently that by the nature of being a curious thinker, you're not even going to agree with yourself half the time or from year-to-year maybe even day today. Otherwise it kind of implies that you stopped growing and exploring new things! I believe in that but speaking of exploring new stuff well The Curious Conspiracy Minded Masses certainly have more to chew on regarding the Trump assassination attempt now than they did in the first 24 hours I kind of made hasty comments at the end of the last show because i had to say something about such a big event, but I didn't want to jump to any conclusions or try to make it something more than it seemed to be. And I probably agree with about 70% of what I said then. The media has drilled in that Trump is such an existential threat how could something like this not happen? Especially right in the window of time where it starts to look pretty obvious that he's going to win

1:13:51 I do think those who have this Trump derangement syndrome bear some responsibility and it's funny to hear them backpedal now and say, well i'm glad he's okay but he's still a threat to democracy. And if he wins then expect fascism in America at the end of our way of life. Honestly, I don't see how both can be true you're either lying about being glad he's okay or your exaggerating how severe a Trump win would be Personally i think both but you can't really hype it up that its gonna be anything different than the first time cuz he's already been there for four fucking years so thats one thing but man tons of new information has come out theres no shortage of twitter threads where people try to lay out their own narratives but a lot of them do circle around some key bits of information.

1:14:41 And I actually did put up the bat signal to Ryan Christian. And we're gonna do a real deep dive on all of it and how the CrowdStrike stuff might even be connected, but... ...I'm gonna be out of town in San Diego this week for a friend's wedding and Ryan will probably be my first guest of August? Which really will give us proper time to bring all the alternative narratives and new claims together and summarize the bulk of it for you guys I know that pretty much everybody is doing that, but i can't think of anyone better to be that guy for us than Ryan. That said now we're getting information that the Secret Service team was not just bare bones like I said before but inexperienced almost intentionally We have to ask why CNN and the networks were live streaming this Trump rally when they tend to have a blackout around that sort of coverage

1:15:34 And we have to see if this kid checks any boxes within a typical MKUltra framework. And now with the new information that I've gotten this week, I would say yes! Given what we know about MKUltra... What would be the career choices of his parents that make you most skeptical? Outside of literal positions in government, I'd say behavioral studies and psychiatry. Well both of his parents check that box. Big red flag for me We have reports that he was walking around for a long time, being seen by many people. Aiming his gun at a cop acting strangely carrying a ladder half mile in some reports maybe even getting caught with the scope being confused not even being subtle in broad daylight this is a person under some sort of influence and to think

1:16:26 With all these details and looking at the layout of the scene that he just fooled the Secret Service, that's more than just a stretch. This seems more than just creating the conditions broadly it seems a lot more planned and set up The kid's parents apparently called the cops when he was an hour late from coming home I mean he's 20 That's weird It's like they knew he wasn't in a good state of mind or maybe some FBI inspired LARP Was spilling over into a real life world event. He also apparently had a burner phone probably given to him by whoever was coaching them along and i'm sure that's not the phone that they broke into and told everybody about, I can't agree with those who think this was a setup event by the trump people because they already had a great deal of momentum there is no reason to do this

1:17:21 from that perspective and stage this. What I see is a desperate attempt to hold power when it seems to be slipping away, everyone who ever had faith in Biden is losing it and so something desperate was set up and it didn't work and now Biden has COVID and will probably drop out? That narrative seems pretty convincing to me the biggest questions left in my mind are well...I thought the Left-Right divide was just political theater Maybe on some levels it is, and on the street level there are some people who really have a vested interest in their team versus the other team. The other question would be well why risk it with this mentally scrambled kid? Why leave it up to him to complete the mission? Well I think the answer there is that it looks like the old Kansas City Shuffle! Everyone looking over here at this dead kid on the roof

1:18:12 Much like with JFK and the grassy knoll, it seems in this case the shots might have come from somewhere else. Some are saying the water tower... some are claiming that real shooters ziplined down from the water tower into trees where an SUV was waiting? I guess that's a possibility! But I've heard this gun that the kid had should have made for an easy shot within 600 yards and he was only 150 yards away. And with an iron sight which means it seems like the kid was never supposed to do anything but get shot on that roof! A trained sniper can make shots as far as 2000 yards away sometimes they say even double that well a mile is only 1760 yards

1:18:57 So you're talking about a damn mile or more possibly. To me, that person could have been anywhere and you're not going to take a photo of the scene that's gonna encompass the range in which that shooter could actually have been in and the further away they are, the more reasonable it is that they missed by an inch If that bullet photo is real, captured by the same photographer who took the famous Bush reading to kids on 9-11 photo. By the way small world Well, the bullet doesn't look like it's coming down from the water tower It looks like it's coming straight but maybe from much further away Then you got the esoteric stuff The Illuminati card game enough is enough card that says our snipers can get you anytime at any place and it looks like Trumps face

1:19:44 and then Hulk Hogan using that exact phrase at the RNC in his speech before Trump with Jason Aldean there. And we all remember the Vegas card, and his tattoo in the Harvest Festival. So you know me I'm not trying to jump the gun and try not get too attached to any unknowable narratives but yes so much of this seems like a lot more set up than I was willing to conclude the morning after Add in the Blackrock commercial the kid was in, I mean what is that? But it does feel like the MKUltra template was just dusted off and the kid was set up as a brain scrambled distraction. And the trained person tasked with taking the real shot also missed! With a lot of events you can get really granular and try to confirm every little detail

1:20:34 but you usually are going to hit a dead end somewhere. You're usually going to have to make a few assumptions and that's also fine, but like so many things broadly speaking I think we know what we need to know about this though it'll still be interesting to go over in greater detail all the little details with Ryan next week But a general template is pretty well formed at this point And who knows what might happen in the meantime too? It's getting crazy out there But those are some additional thoughts to what I said in the wrap-up of the last show. Though, I did say maybe on several of things where now just saying yeah it does look that way. Speaking of the last episode with Lara Knight Yadchik It seems like the plus people did enjoy it 4.8 an excellent score after a 4.9 from Poped really good stuff

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