Marc Morano | The Eco-Industrial Complex, Climate Science Fraud, & The Permanent Lockdown Plan

00:05 That's true, Dr. Seuss! Serenity now, good people of the internet. From the Sunshine State I'm Greg Carlwood and if there was any silver lining to the COVID-1984 Flute Etat it would be the lessons we learned about just how easy it is for The Big Machine to engineer the illusion of scientific consensus How overeager many of our peers are to give into fear mongering and conform to whatever's needed to get their gold star from the state And how the solution to any problem seems to be hacking away at our freedoms and general joys of life

01:12 Now that it's over, it's easy to forget how extreme it really was. Yellow caution tape wrapped around parks and beaches, aggressive mask mandates, bans on backyard gatherings, forced closures of small business, mass layoffs for jab noncompliance, travel restrictions and watching loved ones die alone from remdesivir in ventilators behind glass We're fortunate to be through the woods, but when people like today's guest Mark Morano warn that COVID was just a dry run for much more intense and long-lasting restrictions due to the climate crisis... A lot of us better listen up, because we can expect to see much of the same playbook dusted off in addition to a compliance-based digital currency that can be throttled appropriately, increased monitoring of our activities online and off and more restrictions on what we do or even eat. If you thought a pandemic robbed you too much time when is a climate crisis over?

02:06 Well, Mark is here to not only break down the nefarious plans of the controller class but also why we should be not afraid by poking all the right holes in their claims for why such restrictions and protocols would be necessary as well as why the proposed green energy solutions are trash too. And he is just the guy to do it as he has a former staff member of the U.S Senate Environmental and Public Works Committee, a director of communications for the committee for a constructive tomorrow or CFACT the curator of climatedepot.com, a true wealth of information on the subject and the author of books like The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change, Green Fraud Why The Green New Deal Is Even Worse Than You Think and The Great Reset Global Elites And The Permanent Lockdown

02:50 So let's do the damn thing. The jet setting, policy crafting control freaks hypocrisy highlighter green new deal destroyer and climate crisis color outer Mark Marano welcome to the higher side. Hey thank you so much Greg for having me on I appreciate it I couldn't have done a better introduction if i had written it myself. No, just kidding! Thank you, I'm honored. Oh nice well I very much look forward to doing this you know so much about the topic and how they plan to use it for more control wealth extraction all the world economic forums wet dreams actually discovered you recently through a debate you had with Bill Nye on the Piers Morgan show that, funny enough was from way back in 2012 anyway. But it was great and I think the best place to start is with the problem because so often they use the problem reaction solution template. So even if the solutions proposed are wrong how would you go about calming the nerves of anyone who's been swept up in the climate alarmism and

03:48 the constant messaging that we're all going to die soon because we've been so bad. Well, before you just talk directly about climate yet look at the whole history of the environmental movement which really started in the 1960s and particularly I mean it started with Rachel Carson and There's always a kernel of truth usually to some environmental scare. That is the question of how it's hyped, but the real template for climate came with Paul Ehrlich in The Population Bomb which he wrote in 1969 and this book exploded on the international scene and made him a hero, and it had all the hallmarks of following what the climate situation was. In other words they came up with very scary projections of doom-and-gloom for population resource scarcity famines

04:39 And then they said, unless we do the following. And guess what? Their solutions were the exact same as what you'd find with today's version of The Green New Deal. It's all about, We need to take away freedom. We need to take away property rights. We need to give away our national sovereignty. We need to redistribute wealth. We need to empower experts to rule our lives because left to our own devices will mess it up This was quickly followed overpopulation and coincided with the global cooling scare of the 1970s. In my book Green Friday, I have a whole chapter on how the solution to the global cooling directly mirrored everything. In fact, the problem of global cooling was man-made global cooling they talked about literally causing more storms hurricanes floods being bad for wars they talked about consensus scientists they talked about tipping points and of course the solution was the exact same as what we hear today with

05:32 with climate change again, more government control less freedom wealth redistribution sovereignty giving up your sovereignty. It's incredible it just keeps recycling and then of course global warming then of course the 80s you had Amazon rainforest scares and acid rain A whole other host of problems which again some of these had real kernels, and real issues that needed to be addressed but not in the same template in which they always came up with. Which was global socialism to address all these issues so anyway to make a long story short climate change comes along really in force in 1988 when James Hansen testifies in front of Congress also that's the year that the UN Climate Panel was formed

06:14 And essentially, they basically said in 1988 we're going to form this panel to look at how climate change is causing a catastrophe. What was left unsaid is if they fail to find the catastrophe they fail to have a reason to exist—to have conferences every year for the next 40-50 years nonstop and the most exotic locations in the world from Africa South America to Asia all over Europe islands Cancun Indonesia And so what happened is if they failed to find it, they had no reason to exist. So they became a self-interested lobbying organization this UN climate panel and it was run by a guy Rajendra Pachari later years who literally said climate change global warming is my religion, my dharma. So make a long story short everything became about fear computer models and answer your original question sorry but the long roundabout way on every metric of climate change

07:11 Whether it's not accelerating sea level, in fact sea levels have been rising for 10 000 plus years and it's been about the thickness of a nickel every year. You can't really even determine it you can look at photos and data from everything from Miami through European cities and you just don't see much of a change yes It is still rising because we're coming out of an ice age on extreme weather, hurricanes floods tornadoes droughts wildfires even the UN in their reports bury the fact that there's either no trend or declining trends on every one of the extreme weather metrics. On temperature they do all sorts of sleights-of-hand but the geologic record shows that the Roman warming period was probably warmer than medieval warming period was as warm or warmer than today

07:56 And if you look at the little ice age, we've warming up out of that. That actually coincided with temperatures so the idea that we're in the hottest years on record it's within hundreds of a degree. You can't even distinguish the hottest years from each other it's a statistical game they play for cheap headlines and this is done when I say today this is NASA our federal agencies NOAA the heads of these agencies love these pronouncements James Hansen who used to run the NASA global warming division was a guy who got arrested half-a-dozen times protesting global warming. He endorsed the book calling for ridding the world of industrial civilization, he then resigns from NASA and now his big thing is joining children's lawsuits so kids can sue the government so that we go full Marxist

08:39 in order to give the kids a climate future that will be stable. So, that's the kind of people we had running it and on data everything from polar bears we've had record number of polar bears are disappearing but they're disappearing from Al Gore's books and movies He made it his number one icon and this first film, which had an accompanied book 2006 in convenient truth. By the time he does his sequel 2017, his book and movie don't mention polar bears once they don't exist their images don't appear why? Because they've never count historic population highs even indigenous people of the Arctic recognize this that the polar bears are doing much better and thriving

09:20 A lot of it had to do with hunting bands, never had to do with climate anyway. The only danger that polar bears face is in the electrons or the hard drives of the climate modelers who keep predicting doom 50-100 years from now but the real world does not bear it out because they're an adaptable species anyway so on all those things it's just...the fear is no there and I set myself defining all the scientists who were rehearsing themselves. from years ago on UN scientists who turned against the UN, Nobel Prize-winning scientists. I have Obama administration scientists I have progressive Times hero of the environment Michael Schellenberger actually issued a public apology for his part in trying to scare people about climate change. When he looked at the science, he reversed himself. Judith Curry who's featured in my films Climate Hustle was one of those scientists head of the Georgia Tech Climatology Department and Atmospheric Sciences she publicly reversed her course when they started looking at the science so

10:19 been an amazing ride and much about climate in ter And they're not interested in persuading you now to support cap and trade or carbon taxes because they don't really want your consent or public thing. They didn't even want a vote in Congress, the Green New Deal never even came up for vote it's only been introduced for PR purposes. They're implementing the Green New Deal through executive orders through all these agencies so this science of climate change just doesn't matter as much anymore. They don't need to scare adults. They're working on scaring kids to pressure legislators and to pressure the public in general but

10:57 But mostly they just declare a climate emergency and they're implementing all the solutions they know they never could get past through Congress and democracy in the same way using that COVID template. Right on, well we are off to the races you certainly came prepared! And that's another thing we learned during COVID-19 that projections and models are not reality and they can be crafted to project whatever future you want And clearly that was an element there too. But going after the kids, I mean that is really a big concern it's happening in a few other areas as well and it seems like it's a multi-pronged approach to driving a wedge between kids and their parents and really getting kids to look to the state for their guidance and look to the state to solve their problems. And I don't know, that's a scary place if you ask me but I've heard you talk about the fact

11:54 The debate is not, is CO2 rising? Because apparently it is. Again this stuff there's so many people throwing out so many different models that seems really complicated but the issue is that CO2 is not really relevant to the temperature of the planet because we can look at previous periods and see Not really much alignment between those two statistics, even though the narrative is that 97% of scientists agree. Much like COVID, that was what they were saying but talk to us a little bit about that relationship between temperature and CO2 or the lack thereof and this narrative that so many scientists agree on the fact that's really just something they made up

12:36 Yeah, what they conflate or confuse is more CO2 potentially leads to a warming effect on the environment. Not necessarily overall warming because there are quite literally hundreds of factors that influence the climate And it could be everything from tilt to the Earth's axis, to water vapor, methane, to clouds, to the sun, to ocean circulation, to volcanoes. The idea that it is one politically selected factor CO2 which happens to coincide with industrialization and economic growth and long life and lower infant mortality and fantastic improvements in living standards, they coincide with the same Marxist sort of Malthusian mindset that wanted control That doesn't add up. Now, if you look at the ice core data which came out

13:21 I believe the early 90s from Antarctica, they show that temperature goes up first followed by CO2. So temperature leads here to CO2 does not drive the temperature. I interviewed Robert Giegenkak featured him in my film this was a liberal academic from The University of Pennsylvania geologist but on almost every continent did hundreds of peer-reviewed studies on climate and geology and he literally said that ninety percent of the earth's history it is It has been warmer than today, too warm to have ice at either pole. And 90% of Earth's geologic history has had much higher CO2 levels. So we are in the 10% coldest period in Earth's history and we're in the 10% lowest period of CO2. In fact, we had Will Happer, the Princeton physicist who's been dubbed the foremost expert on a greenhouse effect come testify when I worked in the United States Senate Environment and Public Works Committee

14:15 And he said the Earth is currently in a CO2 famine. That, you know, geologically speaking we've never been this low. The idea that we're in some kind of climate emergency, climate crisis it just doesn't hold even the lightest scrutiny of science. It's a political movement and to back that up there have been many studies showing that the higher CO2 becomes more plant respiration through photosynthesis and the greening of the Earth. In 2016 NASA had a huge study showing that planet Earth was greening and that deserts were actually shrinking. And of course the climate activists will acknowledge this, but they acknowledge it by saying did you see that? There's gonna be more poison ivy and weeds an invasive species! This is bad we climate, we have to get under control. The other thing they obscure is that cold kills anywhere from eight to 20 plus times higher on an annual basis throughout the world. Cold is the biggest killer

15:12 So, one of the reasons climate-related deaths have dropped 99% in the last 100 years – a whole bunch of reasons but mostly because we've taken fossil fuels and made an unsafe climate safer by building dikes and dams and bridges and technology with early warning systems for hurricanes and tornadoes. and all the infrastructure. So we are much better because of fossil fuel development, we do much better and that's why our we have a 99% drop in climate related deaths so once you delve into this... And if my first book Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change really goes heavy into the science and I feature these UN scientists Nobel Prize winners, I mean you could actually get into this

15:55 and realize that not only is there a vigorous debate, but that the other side all they really have is if then scenarios of this could might may happen 50 to 100 years. So we should go full Marxist just in case and then I also spend a lot of time in both my books Green Fraud and Plague showing that even if you accept every one of their scientific premises no solution they've ever proposed would have any impact on this climate alleged climate catastrophe In fact That was Robert Giegengack I featured in the Climate Hustle 2. He actually said, Even if they're right on the science, every proposal they've ever done would have no impact on climate change. If in fact we are facing a climate crisis so this is what we're facing it's a political movement and I think the simplest way to understand that at this point is to look at COVID because COVID Billy and that two year three year span was the entire three decades of little climate movement encapsulated you could watch everything and I've done a whole presentation and working on the written report now

16:55 everything I learned during the COVID debate, I'd already learned during the climate debate. Kind of like that 1985 book Everything I Need to Know About Life I Learned in Kindergarten—well everything I need to know about the COVID and public response, I had already learned in the climate debate. And that includes you mentioned Neil Ferguson. Make a big scary prediction and say we're all going to die unless we go full totalitarian! In the case of COVID, we had to quote copy China In the case of climate, we had to quote give up our freedom or sovereignty or private property or redistribute wealth turnover our lives to experts. It was the exact parallel and even more frightening it was the exact same people in other words a World Health Organization that 2018 had declared COVID-19 global climate emergency

17:39 And this is the same organization that of course declared the pandemic. By the way, just this week they're coming out now saying that under the strict definition a pandemic we were never actually in a COVID pandemic based on death toll and the death rates and that's a whole nother emerging field so we weren't basically told Unless we do the following, which was copy China. We had WHO officials go to literally go to China and say, we've seen the future and it works. We need to do what China's doing. China should be praised Italy copied China. And then the United States and Donald Trump was duped and we followed China in an unprecedented lockdown of healthy people.

18:17 Great points. And let's get into those proposals they talk about and the green tech, because I like to draw a distinction between CO2 emissions and that whole climate change thing, and pollution. You know CO2 isn't necessarily pollution it's actually critical for our ecosystem but a lot of industrial processes in companies do cause a lot of pollution and poison the soil water and air on the planet I wish that was happening less often so some this green tech like solar and wind sound good on the surface but what are the problems with these systems that people don't often hear about?

18:55 All right, well this was the crux of my entire book Green Fraud. And what's happening here is they're saying we face a climate catastrophe, a climate crisis, a climate emergency so the first thing they would…what does Greta Bloomberg say? We want you to panic! Why would they want us to panic during COVID because when you panic you don't look at things logically reasoned and you don't take your time and you're not And that's exactly how we ended up with this solar, wind and EV nightmare that we're in. Because we're in an alleged climate emergency it's one thing to do all sorts of research offer versions of solar and wind or EVs for sale

19:33 It's completely another to say we are facing a dire climate emergency. We don't have any time, so we are therefore going to ban gas-powered cars essentially mandating EVs. having solar and wind come in to replace it. We're going to start going after natural gas, we're not gonna allow nuclear to expand and we're gonna mandate and subsidize solar and wind throughout the world." And that's basically what's been happening so the problem is solar and wind and EV batteries and EVs need fossil fuels to be made They need rare earth mining to be made. And what they're doing is they're giving, we're empowering China by doing all this. We're allowing China to use Uyghur slaves horrible human rights conditions underage kids and the most insane human working conditions you can imagine in Africa on places like the Congo and other places where Chinese owned firms come in. And it's not all bad. It's a form of colonialism. In other words that Chinese firms will go into the Chinese government,

20:35 and either buy up land and or in debt the government to China, Chinese companies. So they'll build airports and infrastructure and electrical glids and roads. And these countries are then indebted to China now on the other hand they're getting a lot of benefit from that but anyway so they're doing all this with huge environmental imprints it's I always like to say renewables dig the earth not in a 1970s Brady Bunch way but I mean literally at a deep earth rare-earth mining way And then they of course put all it together. Windmills require hundreds of gallons of oil even that operate, then you have all the battery backups and then you of course have all the same issues you have with regular energy

21:16 When you cite these, I've covered issues from solar panels in the Mojave Desert impacting the endangered desert tortoise. You have windmills killing birds and getting exemptions that no other industry could possibly get for killing rare apex predators—not just common birds but some of the rare species that are listed on endangered species. So all of that happens and On every step of that, it is a huge energy input. Huge carbon footprint even when they say other solar panels are assembled in the US while all their important mining and production is made in China and shipped over here I think 80% to 90% of our solar panels are bought from China. Then here's the kicker

21:58 Total electricity, it's still about 5% or less produced. After all of that after 80 billion that Obama spent after the hundreds of billions that President Biden is spending on all the solar and EV and wind mandates subsidies and tax breaks and all the executive branch orders, and all the ESG and all the bank allocations from fossil fuel projects over to these planet-saving renewables. They just don't produce the energy. One estimate said that a traditional coal plant One coal plant worker equals 88 solar panel workers, or solar industry worker. In other words you can have a lot of jobs with solar. Look at all the green jobs! They're just producing the energy now people will say oh look at that we're on record high electrical grid came from renewable energy well first when they use the word renewable they're conning you because they're including hydroelectric dams and geothermal

22:52 not traditionally what they're talking about with terms of the mandates and subsidies. Solar and wind are still only 12% of our electrical grid, which again is only a fraction of our total energy. Electricity is used for all the power but you still have all the fuel in the gas and factories that can be running on other kinds of fuels so this is the issue we're facing and the question is can solar when ever catch up? We don't know I don't like to bet against any technology but the bottom line is we shouldn't be mandating All of this now as we shut down our energy, they're literally saying the quiet part out loud by the administration multiple saying we want prices to be higher because that'll help the green agenda. We have an Energy Secretary now who wants to keep fossil fuels in the ground. We have prices going up. We have warnings our futures like California where they mandate electric cars ban the gas powered cars within four days or doing that. They tell you not to charge your thing because their grid can't handle it because they got so much solar and wind

23:51 Solar and wind are unreliable. They're just not able to take over at this time, I'm not against them potentially someday but it's not ready for prime time and all they're doing is making electricity more scarce, more expensive and leading to more blackouts. And also we're losing our industrial base because we could be the Saudi Arabia of all energy whether its gas or coal oil but our restrictions, all we've done with green energy is offshore all our emissions to China and India in South America and the Middle East and Venezuela. in Russia where they don't have the same environmental standards as we do. We can pat ourselves on the back, look we're trying to cut it but we're doing this mandate means nothing because global emissions of carbon dioxide which is supposed to be the goal to stop keep going up because all we're doing is offshoring at the countries without the same human rights and environmental standards as us. The whole thing literally makes no sense from beginning to end unless you look at

24:48 as what it is, which is a government nationalization of industry. A takeover scheme of wealthy donors and wealthy companies with well-connected the best lobbyists taking over massive industries and we're seeing this both in transportation as automakers are being crushed China's going to be the new number one global car maker We're seeing it in farming, where small family farms owned for generations are being crushed by the likes of people like Bill Gates who's now the number one single farmland owner. All this is due to climate concerns and you have the Netherlands they tried to shut down the farmers 11000 farms, the farmers are fighting back we're seeing Ireland kill 200 000 cows, we're seeing Germany ban meat production to one sausage a month literally from like over 100 grams 90% reduction over 100 grams of meat average German eats

25:35 to now 10 gram limit all they're very open. We're is doing is consolidating economy into a more concentration of wealth, higher and higher. Fewer and fewer people in charge, fewer and fewer companies less diversity think of it like the COVID lockdowns that crushed all the small businesses while retail corporate and big tech boomed and made more money than they ever could imagine And the small independent businesses went down and that's part of a plan because the small independent businesses are the ones that are going to fight things like environment social governments diversity equity critical race

26:14 And transgender all these mandates, they're the ones that have a problem with is they can wipe out as many small businesses as possible. You're going to have all the woke corporate chains that are gonna go completely along whether it's Walmart or. Target or whether it's Home Depot, you name it. Any major corporate chain is completely in on the climate agenda every airline can't fly United Airlines without hearing about their commitment to climate and all the emissions that how much you're saving on this flight and how you could do this route to save this many emissions It's just become, it's a new form of cultural and economic Marxism being imposed where we can no longer be free because freedom equals the climate catastrophe. Freedom during COVID equaled mass death from a virus. Freedom is the enemy here in every scenario that we're talking about whether it's global cooling, global warming, COVID even same principle with terrorism go back to 9-11 in the United States

27:14 biggest expansion of government, massive spending the Patriot Act. Government surveillance of our own citizens we did all that we had to give up freedom because we had to be safe it's the same principle it's been throughout the ages and that's the theme in my new book The Great Reset which goes back And to the Roman Republic, throughout history governments have tried to invent a reason why you can't be free. The ruling class, the best institutions, the expert class, the politicians and business leaders have all come together in every society to come up with why you can't be free. In my book I detail how the biggest danger of these emergency declarations going back

27:51 the Roman Republic through the Middle Ages, through the 1930s Germany. The greatest expansion of government and the greatest violation of human rights occurred during emergency declarations in And that's what we saw with 9-11, that's what we saw with COVID and that's what they're trying to do right now. With Joe Biden declaring a national climate emergency he would gain 130 executive powers without democracy and that would extend the mayors and governors you see the end game here this is about control nothing to do with environment nothing to do with climate I know you asked me about solar wind I hope I answered that about 10 minutes ago yeah excellent points it's like you've done this before

28:30 I definitely loved the new book and Green Fraud. I can't remember which one I read this in, but you mentioned Michael Moore getting kind of kicked out of the leftist club for producing this movie Planet Of The Humans and I watched that last night and man is it eye opening on the subject of that green technology? I would advise anyone to check it out. He basically just shows all these mass green facilities are because wind and solar ar they need energy always a that energy, that when the sun they have to use ba is expensive and they can scenes in the Michael Mor

29:16 I think it was like a Michigan or Minnesota city where they were doing this big solar display about how they were going to power. And then someone goes, just like the Wizard of Oz and they go what's behind that curtain over there? And they had diesel generators backing the whole display up so they're trying to claim they were all powered by solar and this whole thing and it was the future. And meanwhile, they showed the reality with the diesel generators where they're backing it up. He really exposed that fraud he also in two things happened, Al Gore, which I didn't expect. He had Richard Branson... It was like an off-the-cuff—I don't know if it was actually broadcast or if it was this closed circuit but there's some show I never saw and looked like could have been you know an outtake but they asked him is Al Gore a prophet? And Richard Branson does this chuckle sitting next to Al Gore he says that depends on how you spell the word prophet and they both have a hearty laugh over it yeah which tells you it's about the money But the other interesting thing about it is by doing this film

30:11 He – I like to say he was planted of the humans. What is it called? It's called Planet of the Humans, right? And he was exiled from the planet of progressives because he literally was banned. The guy Josh Fox who did the anti-fracking film on natural gas. He led a whole band, Michael Moore. Michael Moore was not used to this he had his movie taken down was on YouTube it got censored then he had the fight to have it back I mean he was fighting his own progressives on this because they couldn't believe you went off the reservation but he really lays out how solar and wind are not the solution. But the only big flaw of the film is he's a big believer in population and you know, a lot of the teachings that I opened up to show about overpopulation which by the way that has shown and i always like to feature John Lennon early night-I think it was 1971 Dick Cavett with Yoko Ono asking him about population and he said this not a problem at all this will sort itself out this is hysteria and dick cavet was just stunned! I can't believe it! I don't agree with you at all because I don't really care if you agree with me

31:11 John Lennon out-scienced all the leading experts of the day. This is The Beatle, John Lennon. So it was impressive and if you go back the new problem of overpopulation was never going to be over population. The new problem is underpopulation as countries get wealthier they have less and less kids and their populations stabilize and that's happening all over the world And so that's a big flaw in Michael Moore films he believes in that but It's an incredible movie because it's just another person who is reversing their views on a lot of this stuff, whether it's the science or the solutions of climate. Yes! Well said.

31:49 It's funny because if they really thought CO2 was a problem, I would expect planting more trees to be in the conversation as well as ending this behavior of making every little plastic thing in China and shipping it over here on these massive ships that I've been told pollute more than all the cars in America anyway. In a given year but that stuff never makes into the conversation and let me ask you this because as much as I don't trust politicians and the Davos think tanks, I also don't really trust corporations either. The cigarette industry crafted their own science and lied to us for years. The telecom industry, I don't think is honest about EMF's effects on our health. The sugar industry made their own health science and there was this story that came out about the oil industries communications leaking and the story goes that they acknowledge the damage they're doing to the planet and discussed suppressing or causing confusion in climate science to keep it business as usual. And some people think that's the real story because it rhymes with a lot of other stories

32:51 How would you respond to that? Great question. I was in a film called Merchants of Doubts, they interviewed me it wasn't my film and they tried to smear me basically as the PR spokesman who's saying that cigarettes are healthy! They didn't do it there but they were saying that climate change is not a worry, they were saying that was my role similar to people who did that now First of all, I've never been a lobbyist in my life. I have no love for any of these big energy companies. If you look at things like ExxonMobil they support the UN Paris Climate Agreement They support carbon taxes They support all this big and why do these big companies support all this because they can absorb the costs That's number one They can absorb the cost of all this and it can crush their small competitor And you're gonna have massive consolidation just the fracking industry alone by the way

33:37 There were so many what you would call mom-and-pop frackers pre-COVID. COVID hits, the lockdowns hit And huge reduction in energy. All these small time people that were booming and all these states like Pennsylvania, Ohio a lot of them went out of business guess what big companies came in and massive consolidation which is just what the government and bureaucrats like because Massive consolidation means they get to work with us making control it a lot easier than a bunch of you know independent wildcatters out there so having said that There's this idea that climate skeptics are funded by the oil industry. It is one of the biggest lies, and I spent a lot of time in both books but at least first one politically incorrect. The idea is one of the biggest most damning revelations of the Exxon and oil companies funding skeptics

34:26 It was 2005 and they had the Union of Concerned Scientists, which is a left-wing environmental group. Don't be confused by the name said that up to 19 million dollars has been from Exxon, the conservative group skeptical of global warming. They're the mouthpieces of big oil And then if you look at it and all these other claims that they make, a lot of this is like Exxon gives to first of all groups on all sides the spectrum. Exxon gave $200 million dollars to Stanford University...$100 million dollars to Stanford University to study how farming impacts climate change. One United States Department of Agriculture grant of 20 million exceeded all the money Exxon was ever accused of giving to groups skeptical of climate change and they also give

35:06 a whole myriad of groups, left right center. And they give to groups that don't even deal in climate like if they give money to say a group like the Heritage Foundation, a small part of heritage is budget and time is actually spent on climate but all these corporations have always given so that's not evidence of anything now on terms of what you asked me about Exxon knew there's been this whole campaign In fact I was in a Time Warner, Time Magazine documentary on this And I haven't seen it yet, but apparently they put me in a pitch black room with like one little spotlight. I guess it was to make me look sinister so yeah… If I get typecast as the villain on that, I'm fine with that. I'm not going to worry about it. They're gonna say whatever they're gonna say but I never turn down an interview no matter how much I know they're gonna smear. But anyway...

35:53 The bottom line is this, in the 1970s there were a whole series of theories. Now in the early 70's to mid-70's there was definitely a massive push to worry about manmade global cooling they thought that aerosols coming from fossil fuel use were going to block out the sun create global dimming and then cool the earth and you literally had some of the same scientists who later became climate alarmists from James Hansen to Stephen Schneider and others basically warning of this man-made global cooling. And even John Holdren, Obama's former science czar back in the 70s was worried about this man made global cooling so

36:29 There was that theory, there was all sorts of just basic or coming out of an ice age. We got another ice age and then there were a whole contingent by the late 70's it grew if scientists worried about rising CO2 and of course that goes back to 19th century but it was all very speculative so there is all these theories So the idea that Exxon looked into it And they probably had multiple scientists All this different reports and they didn't know anything that no one else knew at the time. They had a couple of scientists who thought, oh yeah this could be a problem we need to look into this with more CO2 other scientists were saying the aerosols are causing global cooling there was no idea anyway so then people claimed that Exxon suppressed it. Exxon didn't suppress anything there was whole world scientific bodies hold New York Times articles of scientist back I think I featured in my first book 1977 or 78

37:22 climatologists debating with meteorologists whether we're going in cooling or warming. No one had any idea basically and the idea that Exxon had some secret knowledge and suppressed it from the world and sold their product, and now Exxons responsible this is what's called a shakedown they're trying to get exxon like they did the tobacco companies in the tobacco companies now have to pay billions every year at all there's some government consortium of all these states and then these states are supposed to use that money for Suppressing anti cigarette ads. Well, the problem is these states take the money but they're not even using it for that But cigarettes have been replaced by vaping anyway in terms of that and of course now they're trying to get vaping to do That but to make a long story short This is a shakedown of Exxon Mobil we now have lawsuits basically saying that if there's a hurricane in Oklahoma Florida or tornado in Oklahoma

38:11 A certain percentage of those damages should be paid for by Exxon and other oil and coal companies, because they're responsible for creating those storms. Global storminess on climate timescales, 30 50 100 years are either not increasing at all or decreasing but they don't care. They anecdotally use a bad storm and claim it's because of fossil fuels so that whole thing whenever you hear about Exxon knew that's a shakedown modeled after what they did the tobacco industry and there's no science behind it and yeah I'm sure they could find papers if Exxon was looking at whether co2 caused warming and scientists thought it did

38:47 But that has nothing to do with anything because you could find opposite papers at the time and continue to find all kinds of conflicting science. And the idea that Exxon had some special power or knowledge was just literally laughable, even people like Michael Schellenberger Time to the environment spent a lot of time investigating this. It is completely ridiculed, the whole concept of Exxon knowing it's a shakedown by activists and government officials mostly Democrat attorney generals to try to get money out of them modeled after the tobacco settlement Well, I mean that's a pretty good response. It is sometimes confusing who knew what when but it's never really confusing that controllers like to control and so they will find a fear-based justification to do that and you touched on a kind of interesting thing there with tobacco that i have an insight in

39:35 I had a friend who had a vape shop in Missouri and there was legislation to shut down all vape shops. And he started to tell me about that money that all states get because they've done this calculation, that cigarettes kill X number of people so you take the population of a state and you take that number of people and then they get X number of dollars based on that. Well when vaping was happening they were making the calculation that not as many people are dying, so the tobacco company's like well we shouldn't have to give as much money. And then a politician stepped on it and said wait wait wait what do you mean you're not gonna give us much money? Well we're gonna ban vaping then so that we can keep that money train coming in and my buddy's shop got shut down and that's just a little microcosm of how a lot of this stuff works. Nobody cares about you, they care about the money train

40:25 coming in and what kind of control measures and power they can keep. It's absolutely true since you brought up vaping, one of the things that happened right before COVID was this EVALI or the vape lung illness? Yeah, the popcorn lung. Popcorn lung but it was a acute epidemic of teenagers and young people that were actually dying at least there's like 50 some deaths I believe so both the CDC and FDA knew And they knew this early. Anyone who studied vaping knew it, these were from black market vapes not from any shops or stores or reputable online places these were people selling them on street corners and they had put in some additive that your lung couldn't shake off and it was like a really bad ingredient but that's what you get with the black market It'd be like buying a black market liquor or something or moonshine You never know what you're gonna get right? Yeah!

41:19 The CDC and FDA literally announced publicly that all vaping should stop, and they did it because this was their opportunity to seize that regulatory control which had been evading them. And they were able then based on the hysteria of this that absolute evidence was overwhelming, that this was coming from black market. They started banning all sorts of legal vaping flavors. This led to all that and what it's done... What do you think the result of all that government regulation? An increase in black market vapes because the government now has regulated the legal ones which were never the cause of the problem there's not one death they can actually say was from a legal vape it was all from this

41:59 batch that people had made with an additive in it. And so now all they've done is forced more and more kids, if you want flavored vapes now you're going to have to go the black market and who knows what's in it but that actually serves a government purpose because of more kids die from more black than they're gonna have more restrictions on legal and then the black market would get bigger then they can get more enforcement, they get bigger budgets, they can have bigger crisis this is the way it works Let the free market be free, dammit. But man so your great reset book it contains a lot of quotes from Klaus Schwab and his cronies about what they want to do but let me have you speak about their ability to actually implement these things how do we know we're not worrying too much about hypotheticals that will never happen? Good question it's because

42:47 I like to say this very clearly. It's not a theoretical hypothetical that may, might could happen in the future. We are living in it now we're living in the great reset. It's being implemented. We're watching climate lockdowns begin just to give you few quick examples as I already mentioned 200,000 cows being slaughtered in Ireland German meat restrictions coming through Netherlands farmers being shut down Sri Lanka literally the entire government toppled highest ESG score One of the highest scores in the world topples the whole country when they go this experiment. Australian farming being limited, Canadian farming John Kerry now putting his sights on American farming to restrict and again it's not going to do anything to emissions but it's going

43:31 basically wipe out the small independent farmers that are left and consolidate them into a controllable and colludible industry. So we've already seen them collapse our energy, they're making it short. We already have the UK power chiefs, Swiss power chief on record is saying people have to get used to electricity only when it's available forget about constant electricity We've seen them collapse our transportation inaction. California announced their executive order of Gavin Newsom and then followed up by the unelected California Air Resources Board, the banning of gas powered cars by 2035. Twenty some states including my state of Virginia because we had a Democrat governor now we have Republican one.

44:09 are set to go along with that. The state of Maryland next door, all these states are going along with a actual spanning or down to almost zero for gas powered cars within the next 10-15 years depending on the state so they're intentionally creating car shortages this is a big part you know you will own nothing and be happy and everything you want will be delivered by drone at going after freedom movement we're seeing it happening right now the World Bank is telling automakers that gas-powered cars aren't going to be funded. Corporate banks are saying they're not going to give out car loans for gas powered cars. Cities in Colorado, California are banning the creation of new gas stations creating gas station shortages. Boris Johnson's transportation secretary no doubt schooled by the World Economic Fund has announced that car ownership is outdated 20th century thinking

45:00 You have business insiders saying we have to get rid of private car ownership. You have people like Andrew Yang, who ran for the Democratic nomination say we need to abolish private cars and instead have an app you can just call up and get a car when you need it the same way you got Uber Eats or an Uber but this time your own car will be delivered to you so that you can go grocery shopping Same with pickup trucks if you have a job you can rent a pickup truck for a few hours This is what they're saying. We're watching this happen, they're creating artificial car shortages, they're creating food shortages, they're creating meat scarcity, they're creating energy scarcity, they're calling misinformation a threat to your health in the age of COVID. It's a threat in the age of your physical harm and the age of climate.

45:46 They're going after and corporate government collusion, shutting down our free speech. This is all stuff that's happening not like well this might happen and they could do this! This is literally happening in other words let's simplify this the most consequential decisions of our life in COVID-19 March 2020 in peacetime that we've ever had in the United States whether you could go to church work school leave your house go to a wedding or funeral or have a medical procedure were were all taken away without a single vote of any legislator anywhere. There were no town halls, no city councils, no boards and supervisors, no Congress, no Senate—it was all done through emergency decree through executive orders that so excited them that the World Economic Forum

46:30 Klaus Schwab announced in June of 2020, just two months after the lockdown started or three months that this was a rare narrow window of opportunity by which to reset the world. This time in the name of climate change and they took that literally so what they've done is continuing that collapse of energy. They've gone full head off going after food full head going after transportation and they have made massive gains. Another tangible evidence, France is the first country now to ban two and a half hour flights or less to save the climate literally to reduce their missions to meet net zero goals forcing people into cars in a train by forcing people into cars The death rate will go up driving that distance that you could fly in 2 1⁄2 hours is gonna result in higher fatalities because flying as statistically much safer

47:18 Now you have Germany, Austria looking to do the same. EU is proposing with Greenpeace support a six hour flight ban in the EU this is all a climate lockdown that we're literally staring at on the same token We're seeing major journals from The British Medical Journal to The Journal of Nature To 230 journals getting together saying that we need to fight climate change using the same template by which we fought COVID I. E authoritarian government lockdowns no time for democracy And this is why I say it's happening now. We're already behind the eight ball, again none of this is theoretical. This is happening here and now Harvard School of Medicine has actually said that unchecked climate change will lead to more COVID-like viruses Rockefeller is now a partnership announced in May of this year with the World Health Organization, The Rockefeller Foundation To look at how climate is fueling pandemics

48:12 So what they're basically doing is saying if you don't support solving climate change, you're a grandma killer because you're going to be creating a lot more viruses. At the same time just to recap they are taking away our meat, high yield agriculture, our freedom of movement gas powered cars And guess what? No one voted on any of it. There was never a vote, there was never a debate in Congress or there's never a debate in city hall and legislators. It just...it's happening through executive order to executive branch through administrative state through departments of each state whether its EPAs or unelected boards like I mentioned in California this is what we are literally facing in here where we June 2023. Its not a theory

48:55 That's what my book is, and that's what my presentations are that I'm giving. And all of my special reports at Climate Depot have been unbelievable from the beginning. The France announcement of the banning of flights to then all the meat restrictions sweeping through Europe. Keep in mind, they just approved insect powder in the EU as an alternative source of protein and in both Europe and Australia they're giving kids that's part of a psyop insect powder food that go home and pester their parents if they've eaten bugs and there's no big deal The meat eating John Kerry announced that we're going to have restrictions on methane, which is all about cows. Bill Gates America's number one farmland owner again already achieved it China close second in terms of single largest farmland owners has announced along with Richard Branson they're investing in synthetic meat this is lab grown meat.

49:44 from steel vats, get stem cells from a cow or lamb and you mix it with the fetal blood. And you have this big thing growing in a steel bat which then you add coloring and texture and you print it on a 3D printer." Bill Gates says there's no reason anyone in the developed world should be eating actual meat anymore he wants them to all eat what he calls synthetic beef which can either be the vegetable oil processed or now has lab grown meat. So this is all here, it's now no one's voting on it. It's all happening behind the scenes the same way no one voted for those crappy paper straws we have at restaurants that dissolve in your mouth. Do we ever vote for that? No, it's being imposed the same way all this ESG stuff is happening it's all being imposed through corporate government collusion and through unelected boards infected by the administration announced on day one department of the federal government was going to be a climate agency they were gonna bypass Congress again they've never had a vote on The Green New Deal now they did pass

50:41 the Inflation Reduction Act, which was just more green energy mandates and subsidies. But this is what we're facing right now so anyone who says... And I was interviewed by UKTV, oh there's a conspiracy theory! Nope this is a conspiracy reality 2023 is the year conspiracy realities outnumber conspiracy theories yes man I set you up and you drive it home This Is How The Dance Is Done and those are all excellent points kind of bothers me most. I've had ranchers on the show talking about sustainable agriculture and doing things the right way, and they're like hey we aren't the problem at all! And also our meat is more nutritious...and it's like this attempt to create artificial demand for lab-made meat and yeah insect proteins

51:27 It takes more control away from people because anyone with a little bit of land can choose to raise a cow or raise a pig and slaughter it and feed their family. But if it's all this lab made frankenmeat, well good luck accessing that on your own without these companies approval so that's where it's another linchpin with this whole social credit thing or digital currency like you don't have a workaround because you're eating the cricket powder that comes from the factory and you don't have access to that. And there are no more cows or pigs, according to this insane plan but it also mirrors the same thing with EV cars like you think its more freedom? You are told and marketed too that its like this limitless energy just plug it in! Plug it in! Well what do you when they dont want you to plug it in because

52:16 With a gas car, you can store gas. You could have gas cans in your garage and no one can tell you otherwise and you can get wherever you need to get when you want to but when it's throttled energy plugged in and your battery only gets you 50 miles, you can't do anything if they decide to cut you out of the club." Yes! In fact, they mentioned gas cans...they're actually now all throughout California Washington State they're banning along with all the gas co turning everything elect Now, obviously the envir of those is probably not you look at it from the b

52:59 But it's also three times more expensive to go through all these electrical things. So they're just, again, they're burdening who's getting hurt during all this? It's not the wealthy Tesla driver with the high income. It's the poor. It's the middle class. It's the working class. It's those unfixed incomes. It's the small entrepreneur. They don't care part of this and I mentioned in my book is they want to crush the middle class and they want to subsidize the poor as voters. And this is one of the reasons, guaranteed annual income is now like the biggest thing they're pushing throughout all the states and even with COVID relief was actually like the first template of that. The idea is you crush all their jobs and you have a public that's just subsistence in with loyal voters who will always vote for the politician willing to keep their subsidies and income coming

53:50 And that's really where we're headed. All they're doing is creating scarcity, scarcity in energy, scarcity in transportation vehicles, plane availability, scarcity and food which then rises prices and then what do you think comes right after that? Calls to nationalize all these industries I go back to 1930s in my book Roosevelt socialist kitchen cabinet advisor Stuart Chase literally laid out the vision of the Great Reset in the 1930s, and in his own words it was control of communication and propaganda—they actually used that word—control of agriculture, control of energy, and government control of transportation. So they're about 90 years late but I think they're finally seeing the fruits of all that academia and expert talk we're turning into an expertocracy

54:36 where every aspect of our lives is going to be determined by what an expert think is good for us. Remember, back to COVID that was just the great reset unfiltered we got an advanced notion of what it would look like. The idea is they told you, you couldn't go out of your home, you had to wear a mask, you had to stand six feet. It was like every aspect, they made these decisions for you and then they mandated it. That is the vision of The Great Reset. The other vision I think that's important to mention is for decades, and I go into book and show that decades ago, you have New York Times columnist praising China's authoritarian one-party rule. You have the UN climate chief praising China's

55:14 authoritarian one-party rule and saying that American democracy isn't helpful. You have Justin Trudeau saying he admires China's basic dictatorship, you have Biden administration officials praising China as a one party world, you have Apple CEO Tim Cook saying that China's values align perfectly with Apple well what did COVID lockdowns do except turn the world into a one-party state. We were a one party public health state that had lockdowns, stay at home orders and mandates, cancelling of medical procedures—no weddings, no funerals, no school or church—and we had no say in it. There was no democracy. It was done for our own good." In the words of Tom Freeman when he praised China as a reasonably enlightened group of people,

55:58 We were better than that because we were listening to the greatest experts in the history of the world. People like Anthony Fauci and The Who director, and our CDC these are people that have PhDs at expert how could the average parent object to their kindergarten age five being masked for eight hours when experts with 40 years experience said that's what they needed it be? That's the world in which we turned ourselves over too and that's the world which we're still living under right now as there literally banning gas-powered cars and meat right before our eyes, and there's been no vote on it. There are no town halls, there are no switchboards at the Capitol lighting up. They realize now that in order to get this great reset they don't need any of that stuff. They just can pass it right through this corporate government collusion through executive branch and administrative state agencies

56:47 Yeah, man. Again great points it does seem like the new pledge of allegiance is to the white lab coat experts Yes And so many of the politicians are part of the young global leaders program So they got agents everywhere and then with all these different sectors of the control pie They got public private partnerships working on each component and they all I guess report back to Big Daddy Klaus and it's just scary how effective they are when the vast majority of people in my life don't even see a problem at all. And I don't know, I struggle to see how we will make them realize that nobody in power gives a shit about you and the system does not have your interest in heart. That's like a fundamental stumbling block we have an ideological thing We can't seem to get over is that they don't have good intentions? Well, you know why they don't say that it's very simple

57:44 Warren Buffett is one of the biggest funders. In fact, Bill Gates says he's the biggest funder of this Gates Foundation which then gives tons of money to promote critical race theory and transgender ideology so you have billionaires creating sort of these culture wars by forcing all this stuff whether it's race or gender. ideology, and that's what people end up getting distracted by. Not that those aren't important issues—not that it's not worth fighting—but that's what they divide us on. So in other words if we're fighting over whether women's sports should have a biological man and this is what legislators talk shows and people are debating about, then we're missing the big picture of how they're literally transforming every aspect of our life without a vote or without our consent

58:29 And that's part of it. This is all run by the billionaire, let me give Klaus Schwab some credit because you asked originally about him This is the guy in 1971 starts World Economic Forum and he comes up with stakeholder capitalism. In other words, businesses will not be evaluated on whether they perform a good product, whether they have efficient delivery, whether they bring profits to their shareholders instead they're going to be evaluated on whether their company is doing good for the world by meeting essentially woke standards, whether it's race climate or gender And his genius was he has these annual meetings in Davos, and he has world leaders—presidents, prime ministers, cabinet officials, bureaucrats, senators, congressmen, parliamentarians.

59:15 millionaires, all the ceo companies and all the bus can meet there. And we'r In other words, if you are a Fortune 500 and you want access to half of Europe's cabinet ministers. You don't have to fill out disclosure forms. You don't have to go meeting there is no scrutiny where they're all there and they can collude. And that's one of the things these meetings are so powerful at it. And you can watch what they put out on the stage I mean in my book is like okay here it is. That's the key thing this great reset in my book It's not like oh I have anonymous sources and I have secret document as I know

1:00:01 Here's a transcript and you can watch the video on the stage of the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab talking about brain implants that they wanna have so that they can know your thoughts. Here is actual... This is the BBC, The Washington Post, The New York Times. This is USA Today, this is the UK Guardian. All my stuff in fact my talks are all mainstream sources nothing as like I found an obscure blog or I have a secret document none of it And that's what people need to understand. This is all out in the open, but they don't care because what they're doing is this is how you got that corporate government collusion

1:00:39 so fast with COVID. If you remember within like two weeks of maybe a week or days of flatten the curve 15 days when everything was locked down, every major corporation almost did the exact same video we're all in this together and in these uncertain times I mean it was like the same language all of corporate America saying from this and the same thing happened with the vaccines everything all saying on the same exact things same things happening now with That's what they want. That's why they didn't care when small businesses were crushed because you know what? They'll give you a guaranteed minimum income, you'll get government subsidies, you'll owe them votes and that's what they'd rather have than a thriving private sector that's going to fight and not be part of the global economy.

1:01:22 of this woke agenda that they can just have no trouble imposing. Thirty years ago, liberals and progressives hated big business—called them the bane of civilization—well now that they control it they have no problems with big business. Every corporate board cowers in fear to the woke activists from Disney to Nike to Major League Baseball Again, you can name anything from Walmart to Chick-fil-A. Chick-fil-a is signed on to diversity equity and inclusion standards now and this was the CEO of the son of the founder who was washing a black man's foot on an interview right after George Floyd was killed in the Black Lives riots were going on in cities. This is what Chick-fil-A people don't realize that I mean everything's infected it's not just Target and Disney

1:02:09 Yeah, man. So I have really enjoyed this you clearly know this material well it is your job so it makes sense but let's tell the people a little bit more about C-FACT of which you are the communications director what are its goals and how is it achieving them? Well, Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow started in 1985 and we bill ourselves as sort of the free market or conservative environmental group. So we're probably closest to Greenpeace as the opposite side because we like to do stunts, we board ships, we do skydiving and we dress up, will do wacky stunts. For instance last year in Egypt we went to the UN climate summit

1:02:49 And we went to a museum and we mock glued ourselves to one of their historical things. And we started chanting no net zero, no climate scare, you know, no climate emergency that we were doing the opposite. We had some fun with it and then we fake handcuffed ourself like AOC like put our hands behind our back. got a scored it out. So we do stuff like that, but it's called C fact and my website is called Climate Depot. It's a project of that. My book is the great reset I'm at Twitter and at climate depot d e p o t at Climate Depot, at Twitter. I'm very active on Twitter. Right on yes obviously that was going to be my next thing to bring up is give people the links and the stuff they need but your books Green Fraud Why The Green New Deal Is Even Worse Than You Think The Great Reset And The Politically Incorrect Guide To Climate Change anything else they should know if they want to dig into this a little deeper now that we're wrapping it up?

1:03:45 No, I think I'm doing the speaking tours all around the country. And actually it was in UK last fall and Canada this year. I've been to Detroit and going to Dallas and coming back from North Dakota and Florida so it's starting to resonate. People intuitively realize that they didn't vote for this stuff. This is being imposed upon them. So that's all but I guess the best way to keep up with me is at Climate Depot, Twitter and climatedepot.com So thank you right on well i know it's a marathon session around here so i will let you go but thanks again and keep fighting the good fight all right thank you so much Greg appreciate it And boom goes the dynamite how about it? I felt like we needed a climate deep dive and when i came across Mark i just ended up liking his approach he isn't afraid to use some jokes and share some memes

1:04:37 He hits on good phrases like build back bankrupt. And I felt like he knew how to be entertaining with what can often be very dry material and for the comedy fans out there, I also felt like you sounded a bit like Mark Norman and that works for me as well. I like someone who's got a thick skin and isn't afraid to debate not necessarily with me but just in general And I felt like he was talking fast enough to fit four hours of content into a two hour bag and that doesn't hurt either. But it just felt like an important topic overall because this alarmism is the justification for the next round of control measures so we gotta break the spell! Not all listeners are going to be on the same page about this, even if they were its nice to reinforce our thoughts given the onslaught of constant propaganda

1:05:30 But we can also share it with people who are on the fence if anyone out there thinks we did a good enough job to be convincing. I really did love this overall but i can't stop thinking about his very first point Before you talk about climate directly, you have to look at the whole history of the environmental movement. It started with Rachel Carson in 1960 and over hysteria about DDT there's always a kernel truth about some environmental scare and then it comes down to just how it is hyped is exactly what he said And it always hurts a little when

1:06:09 There's a comment like that that happens so early in an interview because I know a percentage of people just turn it off and say, well this guy has nothing to offer. Because i've made my mind up about DDT And I get it, Forrest Moretti made a really clear argument that this toxin in the gut would sit right next to the spine and it was crippling people. In what we called polio thus no polio vaccine was ever needed we just needed to stop using this toxin in agriculture Some of the evidence Forrest used to make that point was that farm animals were also developing polio symptoms and a virus doesn't really do that but spraying a poison willy-nilly will. So, that's no small thing to me now if I really tried to get into that with Mark rather than just moving on maybe he would have made some good points about how it launched an overzealous environmental movement that i could find agreement on

1:07:09 You know, going back to what he said. There was a kernel of truth that was just overhyped. Maybe if we took the time to drill down on that and clarify, we wouldn't be as far off as it sounds with just a passing statement who knows? But as for CO2 I heard a great clip on no agenda where a senator I believe was questioning climate scientists and he just straight up asks them Given that this is your profession, how much of the atmosphere is CO2? And their guesstimates ranged from like 10% to over 50 if I remember correctly. And if you don't know take a second to think about it what would you say given all the climate alarmism that we hear? I personally was thinking ten percent to fifteen percent myself but then the real answer came

1:08:05 which is 0.04%. That is what all the fuss is about and according to a general consensus of experts before all this alarmism, if that number drops below 0.02%, global plant life will start to die off so if we want a green world, if we want big trees to thrive net zero is not the direction to go It sounds closer to global suicide and being a proposal from people who seem to hate life, nature and the planet. I'm not really surprised by that Another point i had in my outline that's worth making is that I've seen some side-by-side images of local news weather segments from the 90s versus the ones they use today

1:08:54 and they will show the exact same hot summer temperatures, but in the 90s image they would just be yellow and accompanied by a sun with sunglasses on or something goofy like that. And today the same temperatures are displayed in red with fire emojis and more fear-inducing imagery! That's a psychological trick that is very much in use and has to be watched out for But I think it's important to look forward and deconstruct a lot of this stuff because it does kick people into panic mode. Even though a lot of people are already there. I mentioned that documentary, Planet Of The Humans It starts with the Man On The Street segment asking how long humanity has And some say just a couple years 10-20 years Numbers that are shorter than an individual's lifespan

1:09:48 you know, on average. Which means that a lot of them are living with the sort of mild panic at all times that the earth is going to end before they reach old age which is wild to me but these people will most likely accept any measures to try and stop what they assume is already coming I also remember a previous guest of ours who talked about a report from the UK saying that a great deal of children report climate related nightmares I believe that was the Dr. Fredrick The Ra episode, but yeah you can look at younger generations and they are convinced that they won't live a full life or that having children is pointless or even irresponsible because of this and to me that's scary! Hopelessness is not a good mindset for anybody And all of this IS another aspect of driving a wedge between the generations

1:10:44 These younger folks think their parents are bad because they don't get the trans stuff and they fail to do anything about climate change. So for some reason, they default to putting their trust in the general culture and in the state which is made up of people in their parent's generation? And the state is the one who had the power to act rather than their parents? It's weird but that's happening! I believed a lot of wrong things in my teens and 20s too But the mind control isn't nearly as bad as it is today, so I feel for him. The only other thing that I should mention is that when I stopped the recording and Mark and I were just talking about how it went... ...I mentioned to him that I was very close to bringing up this criticism that I read from a lefty climate activist about his work And they made the claim that Mark can't be trusted because he's funded by Exxon Mobil and The Oil Guys

1:11:40 And Mark basically said, I wish you did ask me because that's a totally bullshit claim. Exxon did throw a little money at the organization many years ago before Mark was a part of it and that's going to be true of most political organizations in this space somewhere because they try to buy influence and they throw a lot of money around. And I think that's a fair point. It's the continued funding that you got to watch out for So I found that to be a reasonable response to the criticism. I figured i would relay that before I read some of the same criticisms regurgitated in the comments so anyway if you appreciated the first hour, In the second hour we got into how The Diversity Agenda acts as protection for the darkness and exploitation hidden in the production chain insights from Mark's Build Back Bankrupt presentation

1:12:39 The long-term seeding of climate guilt. Manipulation of the science revealed in the ClimateGate emails, Mark's thoughts on nuclear energy, our thoughts together on RFK Jr., Trump and DeSantis Real world examples of climate change credit cards hitting the market The call to mark climate deaths That is actually something people are suggesting we do And then we also talked about Mark's thoughts on weather weapons to justify the climate change agenda. Sign up at TheHigherSideChats.com or just click the link in the show notes and in a few minutes you'll be plugged into the full two hour plus feed, in the same app your most likely using now... unless it's Spotify!

1:13:27 But the website is built for ease of use on your phone. We have the Netflix category display and a very advanced audio player, check it out I'm sure you will love it! And the last thing we do is look at the calendar and see what events are coming up from THC listeners looking to meet more local other THC listeners And we did get a couple added. Thanks for that! One is in just a couple of days, which... A good rule of thumb is to allow two weeks so I can fit it into a couple episodes and listeners have time to plan but either way if you're anywhere near Forest Row East Sussex United Kingdom on June 30th the Hireside Chatters are getting together at The Hop Yard Brewing Company

1:14:12 July 1st, we have that meeting of the minds in Auckland New Zealand. Also July first High Springs Florida at the high springs brewing company doing it once again. July 15th The Brooklyn Brewery and Brooklyn New York is hosting all you lovely New York City weirdos And there we have it light but not empty and maybe more gatherings will pop up Maybe they won't that's really up to you guys But that is the show. Thanks for listening, thanks for sharing it if you do plus members I appreciate you the most to keep my family in the green and you have the most context for what the show really is and what I can do with two hours over just one so much appreciated take care of you and yours. I'm getting out of here because I've done my part your move climate lockdown liaisons control measure implementers and advocates for authoritarianism

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