L.A. Marzulli | The Great UFO Deception, Nephilim Architecture, & The Secret Language of the Dragon

00:00 Planet puppet masters all surely have a plan. There's clearly maybe something there beyond the... But until you've thoroughly tested every last close just to view, find them all you think you know the less you really do. Where would we be? L-T-A-C

00:44 I don't know the line to us, just don't know to what degree Now where would we be? Out at DHC Highest side chat show Carl Wood and Company Here we go again, Hireside Chatters. Doing what we do from the Sunshine State! I'm Greg Carlwood And ever since the Roswell event in 1947 and maybe even before UFO enthusiasts have been begging the state for some sort of acknowledgement that they know at least something about physics-defying flying saucers as well as a long history of bedroom visitations and back road abductions from nonhuman entities happening all over this island earth

01:34 And even though it seems like the state, the military and the official media of The Big Machine are finally willing to talk about these things... You can be pretty sure that what they have to say won't be the truth because when is it ever? Some say the hidden agenda is to prop up military budgets against a never-ending invisible enemy. Others say its just handy dandy wag the dog distraction used anytime the system needs to divert attention from some other hot topic But the Twitter trends don't lie, people. And it's been decades since we had an era of interest in such things as potent as our own! Although when you look at the overlap between emerging technologies and the occult or compare the ritual experiences of those who dabble in the dark arts to entities experienced in high strangeness scenarios... Things start to look a little less sci-fi and more spiritual. It seems like we might be in the middle of story that started long ago

02:26 Well, today's guest L.A. Marzulli would certainly agree as he has written over a dozen books covering the Nephilim and Fallen Angels narrative while folding in UFOs and their occupants in under that context He also has a five part UFO disclosure documentary series on his website A lengthy and popular YouTube series called On The Trail Of The Nephilim And even co-produced an 11 episode series called The Watchers All of which dive deep into these very things and the idea that we've been deceived and trained to see these entities as aliens rather than the demons they really are. So let's dive into it, The Fallen Angel Author Nephilim Skull Scavenger And Great Deception Detective L.A Marzulli Welcome To The Higher Side

03:08 Great to be here. It's a great introduction, thanks so much for having me. Yeah it is great to have you! I don't think anyone has written as much about the Nephilim Giants and the Genesis 6 narrative and the spiritual perspective on UFOs as you have... And this does happen to be a pretty timely interview because just last week we had that new report from Leslie Keen and Ralph Blumenthal come out regarding the military whistleblower David Grush, who confirmed the government has materials of non-human origin including intact crafts. Which is not new news to people who look into this stuff except that they're talking about it now but you consider this part of a grand UFO deception? Is that right?"

03:49 That's correct. I mean, there...I just want to state something here you'll notice the people who get to the front of a line it's Nick Pope he's completely tied into the intelligence agency. It's Luis Elizondo and Chris Mellon once again tied into a government agency intelligence agency It's all part of the same, as it were club. Jeremy Corbell a filmmaker, George Knapp and now those guys aren't tied in but they're always there. They're presented as the experts where people like me who hold to a biblical worldview are basically marginalized sideline and really not even asked for their opinion

04:26 So, this is a managed agenda. They—the powers that be are rolling this out. I watched the film by Stephen Greer last night. It's his latest one and Greer assists or states in the film that these are not demons. Well how does he know that? He doesn't know that. He's just making basically a straw man argument based on what what can you give us that would steer us away from that? And my counter argument to him would be, Stephen is it okay to abduct a five-year old boy and implant him. We show that and we talk about that not only in our Watcher series but The Man's Name Is Emile and in our number four ongoing UFO film series we sat down with Emile who tells us point blank he was taken numerous times since childhood

05:16 by them, the greys as it were. And they are utterly demonic. Alan Matthews is the same thing taken at a very early age not implanted as far as we know but from both of these men sperm was taken there subjected to horrible horrifying so-called medical experiments It makes Stephen Greer, with all due respect and I would love to talk to him. But it makes Greer's argument that these are not demons just collapse of its own weight—fall of its own weight because once again circling back And when I'm at New Age conferences, I'll ask the audience this. How many of you think it's okay to abduct and implant a five-year old boy? Anybody? Never! Not once in all the conferences that I've ever done has one hand even gone up—doesn't exist. Everybody knows instinctively that this is really wrong on so many different levels—way wrong. So for Greer to stand up and say something like this

06:15 in my opinion, is incredibly disingenuous. And then of course at the very end of the film he talks about CE5—close encounters with a fifth kind where they meditate and they call down these entities. Well Meditation is nothing more of an Eastern mysticism. Having been involved in that, having my third eye open by a guru, having lived in an ashram for three years I know what I speak it's not just something I read in a book. I mean I was there, I lived it for three years and I can tell you this Eastern meditation opens a person up to the lower astral, i.e., the second heaven as the Bible declares." So Stephen Greer at the very end of the film—this is what he's promulgating—he's promulgating nothing new, Eastern mysticism open yourselves up invite these entities in… Well no! As a Bible-believing born again spiritual Christian this is the last thing people want

07:14 because first of all, you're opening yourself up to an entity and non-physical entity who will speak to you who will communicate with you. And with all due respect to Greer I mean he's a believer in his own narrative there is no doubt about it He believes strongly in what he is promulgating, but my retort is what if he's wrong? What if these extra-dimensional interdimensional entities are not something benevolent but are in fact the age old entities. And this is what Chuck Villay and J. Allen Hynek thought Of course, their thinking now is sidelined and no one talks about what they say. I won't say no one but very few people go back and look at what Vallee stated early on

07:59 Messengers of Deception is a perfect example. Why does he call his tome, his book, Messengers of Deception? J. Allen Hynek stated that these entities appear more like the demons of old than they do extraterrestrials and that's because in my opinion that is exactly what we're looking at and all this ties into what I call The Coming Great Deception. Well, that is a helluva setup! Points you're making i mean it is kind of a catch twenty two because i don't trust anything the military really comes out and says but yet who has access other than, the military in these kinda people so i pay attention to what they say but always take with a grain of salt and.

08:43 I've heard you say that the pilots of these crafts, they're not aliens. They're multi-dimensional beings that have been with us for a long time. It does seem more like that's the proper context to me as well. I've heard you mention that gray aliens are really biological suits that a demon can wear and i guess i would ask you just because so many people have so many different opinions if we wanted further make the case against this great deception that is pretty overwhelming when it comes to ufology. That is the paradigm that is pushed most often, what do you see in studying the phenomenon and abductions and the general field of ufology that brings you to a more spiritual context rather than a sci-fi one? Just to use the Greer example, how does he know while how do you know? Well let me explain something I'm going to give you a scenario here

09:37 Now you tell me what this is. So a man is imprisoned in a jail cell and all of the sudden an entity appears, it doesn't come through the...it just appears in the room. How does that work? The man is released from his handcuffs, the prison door opens by itself, this entity and the man walk out into the corridor, all the guards are switched off they're all slumped over and asleep They go to the entrance of the prison and the door opens by itself. They go into the prison gate, once again the gate opens by itself. They walk a little down the road and this entity just disappears leaving them man-free

10:20 So, what am I looking at? What do you think that was, what I just described?" True, but it's very similar to what we read about in the abduction phenomenon today. What I just read was a sort of my own little take on Peter's jailbreak which is what we find in the book of Acts and the biblical prophetic narrative. These entities that manifest can manipulate space-time matter and energy both the good guys and bad guys so when I just gave you that little vignette that will story from the Bible is Peter's jailbreak

11:03 but the entity, the good angel that appears to Peter is doing exactly the same thing that the bad guys do. When the bad guys show up they too manipulate space-time matter and energy—people are levitated off their bed! We know that's physically impossible from our physics at least as far as we know. They go through the window or through the wall or through the ceiling once again from our standpoint that is physically impossible to do and yet it happens abductee after abductee after abductee, all of them essentially that I've ever talked to state exactly the same thing. I go up to the window, the windows close and I go through the window. How is it possible? They take me up to the ceiling and I go through the ceiling. How is it possible? I'm hovering and levitating next to the wall wondering what's going to happen next and before I can even think about anything, I'm through the wall

11:58 in a beam of light and being carried up into the belly of the ship. So, in my opinion there's a parallel between what we read about in the biblical prophetic narrative and what we read about in the abductee phenomena—the UFO phenomena which goes across all cultures, all countries...it's pretty much everywhere, all over the globe even as I speak but What's interesting here, what we have to keep in mind is that these entities have a nefarious agenda. Once again going back to Emil the five-year old boy where he's taken against his will—his parents had no say in this thing and he has experimented on it. He has implanted…we took that implant out many years ago and we were the only team of Christians ever to do that as far as I know

12:57 And that was the late Richard Shaw and myself. and late Dr. Roger Lear, both of these guys have passed on. Dr. Roger Lear the alien in the scalpel is no longer with us he died several years before Rick passed away so it's not lost on me that these guys are no longer here but we took the implant out of Emil and in that operating theater we experienced what those in the UFO community would call high strangeness what I mean by that was we knew from the x-ray, from the CAT scan, from the stud finder, from all these different...a barrage of tests that we had conducted with Dr. Roger and then when we took him in to get the ultrasound that was with Dr. Mattriciani who basically

13:48 took that ultrasound wand and within two minutes found the implant very easily, very readily. And said we'll see you again in two weeks of a day of the operation comes and were there are three film crews including Jeremy Corbell who was supposed to give us credit in the film but never did from what I understand Not a good thing, but Rick gave him our footage and he created Patient 17 with our footage. Which you know that's unethical really? Yeah hmm I talked to him about that film. I didn't realize that you can hear my voice in the film

14:26 You can hear my voice in the film. Dicey dicey! Corbell was there and he was filming when we were filming, and after in post-production Rick gave him the use of our film as long as you would give us you know, a shout out which of course he never did. So isn't it interesting how Corbell's film goes right up on Netflix but we were the one that paid for the operation to the tune of $5,000 or whatever it was? We paid for it not Corbell or anybody else. Rick and I Richard Shaw and myself. I have a case here that our work was stolen from us, and of course it was. But of course Jeremy's film goes right up on Netflix where we can't get on Netflix. Why is that? There is a prejudice

15:14 throughout social media, throughout all these different platforms. There's no doubt about it and if you toe the line you can say certain things but you can't say other certain things so there is no more freedom of speech as we know it. You can only say certain things and if you say the powers that be don't like, you get a strike or two-strike or your deplatformed to give you an example I'm deplatformed from Vimeo I'm the platform for Vimeo, and I will never go on there again obviously. I am the platform for life! So why is that? Because they looked at my work and called it conspiratorial. Well there are many people who hold to the same paradigm as me so you've got some 20 year old kid with all inked up and woke by

16:02 behind his computer and he looks at my stuff, and he goes well we can't have this Marjorie guy on. So they take me off and they hold $14000 of mine. They hold $14000 of earnings I had to lawyer up pay the lawyer and then they agreed to pay the money that they owed me This, my friend is how the game is played and it's absolutely wrong. And the American people have a right to understand what is going on—the fact that we're getting one side of the story and we never hear the biblical side of the story except for shows like yours and mine and others. But even then once again I'll speak with prophecy watchers they were

16:43 doing a conference and Vimeo immediately deplatformed them. Why? Because they were espousing the biblical prophetic narrative, and apparently that's a big no-no on certain platforms—you can talk about anything you want! You can talk about Baphomet and anything else but boy do you talk about the Christian worldview or you mention the J word Jesus and your deplatforms…that my friends is called discrimination That is real racism. That is what we're seeing in modernity right now and it has no place in America, so in my opinion we live in a quasi-fascist state which is only getting worse as the days continue but coming back on track... We took the implant out and when we were there

17:30 Again, we found the implant initially within two minutes. So we're there with three film crews including Corbell and Dr. Roger Lerz is assisting Dr. Mattriciana in the operation. Rick and I are looking at each other. There's nurses and some administrators. We have a very large HD monitor in the other room where a group of about 10 to 15 people are watching their proceedings. And this thing goes on for about an hour and 20 minutes, and at this point Dr. Mattriciana still can't find the implant." And he's going over this little strip of flesh, which is about eight inches long and maybe four inches wide right below the right leg. Right below the right knee of Emile. And he looks at Dr. Roger and goes, maybe we should get another implant? And Roger goes no! We know where it is. We found it. We know where it is."

18:20 So at this point, I get a tap on the shoulder from the Spirit of the living God telling me you need to take authority over this and you need to do it now. And so I pray. I'm in a room full of people who don't hold the same paradigm as I do who don't believe like I do and that's fine but as a Christian I took authority over that room and I said i'm going to pray guys and I'm going to do it now And my prayer was very short and very simple. It was just this, Father if there are entities which are cloaking this device I pray that you would break their power and do it soon." Well within two minutes the implant came right on the screen

18:58 Everybody in the room was, whoa! What's that? And Dr. Mattriciano was taken aback because he had been working trying to find the implant for an hour and 20 minutes and couldn't find it. All of a sudden one prayer changed everything in that room. Two days later when we were in Seal Lab—it's the last time I saw Dr. Roger Lira live—I said, Roger, I hope you realize what happened in that operating theory, he looked at me and his eyes got real big. He said, I now believe that there's a supernatural component to the abduction phenomena and I'm going to tell Whitley Strieber about it." So we had changed Rogers' paradigm. He saw it firsthand where something dramatic happened and changed the overall atmosphere of that room

19:44 Right, that's interesting. I mean the power of belief is certainly a force that we know has pretty extreme effects when you really truly believe something if you believe you would be healed obviously if you take a pill that's just sugar and you think it's medicine they call it the placebo effect but its the power belief so yes I definitely am on that page that belief is a powerful thing and let me Let me ask you this, because I know that you anchor your research in the biblical references and the Genesis 6 perspective. But I've also heard you say that many ancient cultures have similar stories about sky beings mating with human women or spirits and things that come from outside of the atmosphere inside our little earth bubble? Well

20:34 One example would be a clip that you show in one of the films of a Native American recounting a similar story that hits all the high notes from their cultural record. So it's great that we have multiple sources, this story does seem to have merit but clearly the Bible isn't unique in this regard and maybe we don't need to be so Christian-centric about it to stay within a spiritual paradigm what do you think? Well I'm...you know people can believe what they want to believe The reason why I focus on the biblical narrative is because it tells us exactly...I call the Bible, first of all, the guidebook to the supernatural. Because that's really what it is—it's the guidebook to the supernatural. So you're talking about Robert Mirabal and a film on YouTube called Stilt Walker. And if folks have not seen that check it out! When I first saw it, I was taken aback by what I was hearing because Robert Mirabal states they say a long time ago

21:32 Those who fell from the sky saw the daughters of men. and took wives of them. Then he goes on from there, basically he's recounting the Genesis 6 story. Well I've also talked to Chief Joseph Riverwind about this and it's in the native oral tradition—it's there in many of the tribes they call him the star gods that's what they call them but we see the same almost identical story of what happens in the days of Noah. And the reason why you say Christian-centric because we're the only people who tell you exactly what's going to happen. And this, of course is Genesis 315. Genesis 315 sets up what's been going on in this planet for thousands and thousands of years

22:22 regardless of what people may or may not believe. That is the truth and the story, you can counter that with all the arguments you want but Genesis 3 15 is the dragon has just lured our progenitors Adam and Eve God's first creation were made in the image likeness of God has just lured them into his kingdom and the pre-incarnate Jesus is there in that garden, and he says something which sets up the rest of the biblical prophetic narrative. And that is this—he looks to the dragon and says your seed, your offspring will be at war

22:59 enmity between the seed of the woman, the offspring of a woman. Your seed your offspring will be at war and enmity with the offspring—the seed—of the woman." The one coming from the woman called the proto-evangelium, the Messiah will crush your head. You will bruise his heel! That's the entire history of the world is like right there that's everything. Whether a person believes it or not makes no difference to me." That was written thousands and thousands of years ago, and it's been carried out from Genesis 6 with Noah's flood. And by the way, pretty much every culture on the planet has a flood story? How is that possible? How is it possible that the Chumash Indians out here in California—Southern California, the Santa Monica Mountains where I live—how come they have a flood story? How is it that every culture…almost every culture on the planet talks about a deluge, talks about the earth being covered, talks about certain people escaping in

24:01 Where does that come from? Is that just mythos, or is it in fact echoing the biblical prophetic narrative which is what we see. So people will counter that and they'll talk about Gilgamesh and all this other stuff but I would posit and push back to them that the book of Enoch is actually far older than Gilgamesh and what we read in the Sumerian text. Enoch precedes everything in my opinion. And Enoch is one of the oldest tomes that we have, and when we read the book of Enoch and we go to chapter 6—which coincidentally is the same chapter in The Guidebook of the Supernatural, IE the Bible— which talks about this incursion of angelic entities, the fallen ones…why are they there? Why do they come? Because they want

24:48 what the prophecy that Jesus gave in Genesis 3.15, they want to stop the advent—the coming of the proto-evangelium—the one who was going to crush the dragon's head. So what do they try to do? They try to contaminate the genome And they almost do that, except for eight people. Except for the eight people everything else is destroyed because we know from the Book of Enoch also that these entities—these fallen angelic entities—these messengers…these watcher beings are called watchers when they came down on Mount Hermon they created an oath and that tablet, that stelae is actually found today in one of the museums in England

25:29 And that stele states on the record that we are those who created this oath on Malcormone. The fallen angel Samyaza states that, I fear that ye all will agree not to do this thing and I alone will bear the penalty of this great price—of this great sin. So Samyaza states that and then the 200 watcher entities they all swear by mutual imprecation that they're going to do this thing knowing full well the penalty that they're going to take on themselves when they begin to commingle the seed, which is exactly what Genesis 3.15 tells us and they go down they take the women of the earth they commingle that seed no doubt about it and they create a hybrid race known as the Nephilim I'm not making this up It's all right there That's thousands and thousands of years old And if that's true do we see remnants of the Nephilim? And in fact We do all over the planet. We see the reference

26:33 the remains of what I call Nephilim architecture, fallen angel technology. And the reason why I'm so Christian-centric if I can use your expression is when Jesus dies on the cross and He says it is finished—remember Jesus is the Messiah that's prophesied way back in Genesis 315—He is the protoevangelium, he is the seed of the woman And this is like a three-hour conversation, but it's the entire Bible is wrapped up in the seed war. The entire biblical narrative is wrapped up in the seed war and unless a person understands Genesis 315 and the seed war they have no idea of what the biblical narrative is about—sorry if they just don't! They have no idea of what it's about because Jesus warns us that will be like the days of Noah when he returns

27:22 out of the entire Tanakh, the entire Old Testament which was written and intact because the Septuagint tells us that that was all written before Jesus. That thing was intact—New Testament's not written yet! Why is it that Jesus points back to the days of Noah when He returns? And that's exactly what we're seeing in modernity. We're seeing once again the commingling of a seed the offspring of the Watchers and women of earth creating a hybrid. They are, in my opinion, modern-day Nephilim and they are according to Dr. David Jacobs walking amongst us but here's the kicker when Jesus dies according to Peter where does he go? He goes to the lower parts of the earth, Tartarus why doesn't he go there? And it says he proclaims

28:06 It's a proclamation to the Fallen Watchers that are there, no jailbreak. You're not getting out! That's the first place he goes and we have to understand why does he go there? because these angels who cohabited with men, who commingled their seed—they're locked up. And that's the penalty of the great sin that Samyaza talks about in the book of Enoch. That's the penalty! They know they're going to get locked up but they've been promised that they are going to get out—that the dragon is gonna spring them and he is gonna win and it will be okay, trust me…but it doesn't work out that way."

28:45 And that's why Jesus goes down to the lower parts of the earth and preaches—it's a declaration, a proclamation—to the angels, to the watchers that are chained up. Don't ask me how that works but they're there! They've been there since before the Flood. Yes. Fair enough. I would not argue that the Bible has some really interesting stuff in it that seems to be impressive that it was written so long ago. I just kind of put the Bible, in a basket with other ancient texts that also have pieces of the story or they rhyme in some ways like you mentioned The Flood Story is in a lot of ancient text So it probably has some merit but I definitely want to try to focus on the beans rather than the Bible and obviously your expertise is where they

29:31 overlap but because of your christian perspective i figured the best part about this david grush interview to ask you about would be, this supposed involvement from the vatican grush made this claim that in 1933 mussolini's forces in italy were seeing a lot of ufo's in the sky and even recovered one and then the vatican helped cover this up and even informed the us apparently we eventually took possession of it. But the headline here is that the Vatican has been aware of non-human intelligence as far back as 1933, you would think they would have been aware of non human intelligence from the beginning because it's a religion and they talk about spirits so it really shouldn't be a surprise but can you add anything that you might know about the Vatican knowledge or involvement or role in this whole saga?

30:20 Well, the powers that be know exactly who it is that they're dealing with. I'm not talking about your average congressman or whoever sits in the White House because that's not what's running the show. This is a secret program which is not part of our government. These are not elected officials. They are not part of what we know as Congress or the different branches of the government. They're completely outside of all this, and they have run roughshod over the information literally for decades since Roswell—since before Roswell. So yeah, the Vatican is up to its eyeballs in it

30:58 They know, in my opinion exactly what happened during 1917 and the Fatima apparitions. That was a UFO event. My two films that we created on the Fatima apparitions—and I want to thank some of the people who made that possible, but definitely Francisco Cadeira who was the head of ExoPolitics Portugal. Francisco was our producer in Portugal and he was the one that was able to line up this incredible headline of experts, Joaquim Fernandes... I'm sorry, that's not his name. I blew it there. But Joaquim was instrumental in

31:36 just telling us what happened. We actually talked to a professor of semiotics who was able to look at the 12 photographs that Joshua Benolio took way back in 1917, in October and there's a problem with several of them. There is a disk-like object directly over the apparition site so I'm not making this stuff up. You know? I'm not. And it's really interesting that all this is coming out, finally. So the Vatican has been up to its eyeballs in many of what happened at Fatima and of course they say well it's…what it really is this was Mary of the Bible but was it Mary of the Bible? And we're saying no, it wasn't. In fact I'm looking on its celestial secrets

32:34 and I was right. Joaquim Fernandez and Fina Diarmada, we interviewed Fina's daughter—Fina died a couple of years before we got there. I think she passed in 2014? We were there in 2017. So we talked to Fina Diarmada's daughter which was just incredible but we also talked and had a wonderful interview with Joaquin Fernandez then he and Fina wrote several books together about the hidden history of Fatima. And all this is taken from a 1917 handwritten records by Father Figueroa, and of course it's dressed up in a way that the people can understand—it is Mary or the Bible—but that's not what the kids saw and the idea of the consecration to Russia which, by the way happened last year with the whole Ukraine war Russian thing so they dedicate Russia's heart or Russia to the sacred heart of Mary well

33:27 as a Christian, I take umbrage with that because this is all a Catholic construct. People can believe what they want to believe and I'm not going to argue it with people but I don't believe that Mary of the Bible appeared to those three kids so long ago in Fatima." So the Vatican has been up to its eyeballs on this stuff—there's no doubt about it—and they managed the agenda. And the reason for this is it hails back in some ways to Orson Welles' radio drama. He said, this is a drama but people thought it was real War of the Worlds and Orson Welles is doing this drama and people were like freaked out completely freaked out well The Old Guard with the crash of Roswell they got it right in the first newspaper that they put out which was Army Recovers Flying Disc 24 hours later They publish another story

34:27 Excitement not justified, says General Ramey. So, we were out at Roswell. We were filming at Roswell. We also went up to the Jesse Marcel Jr. Library in Montana and interviewed several people there—Dr Richard O'Connor who was sort of the overseer of a library. And he also interviewed Jesse Marcel Jr.'s widow Linda Marcel and his daughter Denise. All this is in the film plus we interviewed Chuck Zukowski and several other people in our number seven, which is now just starting in post-production. And we also have a never before seen interview with Jesse Marcel Jr., possibly the last interview he gave before he passed away. So Jesse Marcel Jr.'s father was the intelligence officer of the 509th Bombing Group to think that he would mistake a weather balloon

35:21 for the material that he gathered in the field is absolutely preposterous, patently absurd as it were. it's just nonsense. And part of what we're doing in our film is to clear the name of Jesse Marcel Sr., because he was a patsy, he was a fall guy. There was wreckage out in that field. We actually filmed in the debris site where the thing came down. I was with several people and our little film crew and we spent most of the day there in the actual debris field. And we'll be giving more updates on that when we get close to releasing the film, but I think people will be blown away by what we actually discovered in the debris field. So all this was covered up

36:09 The old guard is dead. The old guard has all died off. General Ramey would be like 120 years old, he's long gone. The people that put the kibosh on what really happened at Roswell are no longer in power or they're no longer there. So there is this openness that we have now which started in 2017 but it is a managed agenda and as I said earlier Leslie Keene, Nick Pope, Jeremy Corbell, George Knapp Many of these people, Commander David Fravor and Nick Pope. You know they have either ties to the military industrial complex and all of them are painting this in a fear... basically fear mongering you know? They're in our airspace or doing this stuff all these guys are on lockstep

36:59 with each other. But if they're demons, then we should kind of be afraid? Well we should be but they don't say that they're demons right They are saying that there an extraterrestrial threat and this is how their couching it And this all sets up the idea That just going to be some sort of a false flag false alien invasion which may or may not be the case I've heard about this for years Project Blue Beam in all this other stuff on the other hand On the other hand, the late David Flynn and I had several discussions about this before his untimely passing. And we discussed this that we believe that there was going to be a nuclear event somewhere on the planet now—we are linked up in ways that are unprecedented in all of history—completely linked up. And I'm talking, of course, about the satellites that are overhead linking us up with the Internet so

37:57 The last time we saw the grid lit up was with COVID. Before that, it was the Fukushima tidal wave and the incident that happened with the tidal wave and the Fukushima reactor, and the whole deal. That was the last time before COVID where the grid lit up. The powers that be can light the grid up. And what that means is that all news media, all attention is focused on what they want to show, what they want the people of the world to focus on. And of course it was COVID-19 several years ago which in my opinion was again a managed agenda, but I digress. So the bottom line is if you have a nuclear event on this planet anywhere it's going to create the greatest climate of fear that we've ever experienced together collectively and the grid will be lit up and that's when they show up

38:50 And what's alarming about all this is that what we are seeing now, which by the way is absolutely unprecedented. Is the saber rattling over in Ukraine over and Russia talking about the use of tactical nukes? I mean that is unprecedented. We haven't heard this type of rhetoric since the Cold War with the Russians and now it's here We also know that these entities are obsessed with our nuclear capabilities. And some people like Stephen Greer will say, well you see they're looking at this because they come from a galaxy far far away and they're afraid that with this type of weapons we're a threat to them! That's one way of looking at it another way of looking at it would be this...and before I get there I got to give you a proof text when Jesus shows up

39:44 and the man of the tombs. He's possessed by legion, he's possessed by numerous demonic entities—legions, they are many within this guy. And it says in the text that Jesus commands them to leave and they beg him don't send us into the abyss, it's not our time yet." How do they know that? It's one of those little nuggets in Scripture And look, I've been a Christian for 43 years. And when I call the Bible the guidebook of the supernatural—that's what it is! If people out there listening have never read it but they think they know it? They don't know it. It's not what you think it is. Trust me, it's not. You get these little nuggets in there and one of those nuggets is from the demons who are in this guy. Hey, don't throw us into the abyss because it's not our time yet

40:35 Stop right there. How do these entities know it's not their time yet? How does the angel, the good guy who shows up to Daniel tells Daniel that Daniel seal up the words in this book, seal up the prophecies in this book until the time of the end." And then he says, this is what the time at the end will look like. Man and women were run to and fro over the face of the earth that knowledge will increase. Well if you retract knowledge for the last 2,000 years from actually 2500 years ago when that prophecy is written it's flatline nothing changes until Gutenberg with the printing press. That's when we get our first blip

41:15 into the modern era. Because now for the first time in recorded history, you don't have a bunch of smelly monks in a scriptorium writing word-for-word and copying the text—you can print it! In a book! Thank You Mr. Gutenberg!" It was up till that point unprecedented and now all of a sudden back in the Middle Ages the Dark Ages, you were considered a rich man if you had 10 or 11 handwritten books in your library. Well with Gutenberg everything changes from there it begins this climb up into the Industrial Revolution where we see many of the inventions that we enjoy today in modernity stems from the Industrial Revolution which is unprecedented and all of human history finally until the modern day where

42:05 we now, as I'm speaking, men and women fly over the face of the earth. Knowledge increases exponentially so the book of Daniel which was sealed up until the modern era is now unsealed. So the question is—and I'm saying all this to get to my point—how does the angel know what it's going to look like at the time of the end. How do the demons who are about to be cast out by Jesus beg them, beg Jesus not to put us into the abyss because it's not our time yet? Somehow, time-space can be displaced. And these entities while they don't know everything they know that it's going to look like this when they're finally put into the abyss but it doesn't look like that when they're saying hey it's not our time yet

42:56 They know it's not their time yet. How do they know that? How is it that the angel tells Daniel, men and women will run to and fro over the face of the earth and knowledge will increase seal up the words Daniel until the time at the end he knows what the time in the end will look like The demons in this man they know what the time of the end will look like So is it possible those are my proof text Okay, I got to lay the groundwork before I give you the punchline. Is it possible that these entities who are so concerned with our nuclear capabilities know that there's going to be a nuclear event which triggers their revealing? That's a lot of conjecture on my part and you've never heard that before guaranteed

43:45 Right, I mean i hear some people talk about a relationship between nuclear technology and nuclear bombs and the other side but not in that context maybe it will just rip a portal right open and they'll come spilling forth. Just I wanted to go back to Roswell for a minute because i watched your crop circle documentary from the UFO disclosure series and you make us strong point that the earliest reference we have two crop circles was from sixteen seventy eight and they called it. The devil's mowing with an image of the devil with the site in the field so this spiritual framing was actually how it was before we were coached and trained into a sci-fi framing. And you make a really interesting point about that famous crop circle of the gray alien head with the disc, he kind of has a smirk on his face. The gray image is made of 59 horizontal lines and the disc is made up 33 lines, 59 times 33 is 1947. Then you have

44:45 151 characters in the code on the disk and 151 times 33 is 4,983 which if you use miles Then you have the date and the location encoded in this crop circle, literally referencing Roswell in time and in space. And that's super interesting! You call crop circles the hidden language of The Dragon but I thought it was always just encoding sacred geometry and things like squaring the circle and basically trying to teach the basic concepts of the material world

45:22 spiritual science, some might call it. Why is this a negative thing? Because you say sacred geometry—who coined that phrase? Where does that come from? Where does the term sacred geometry come from? Who coined that? I'm a little unsure but it's in the vernacular. Yeah! they call it sacred geometry because those studying all these ancient megalithic sites know that these sites, they're built on pi. Mathematics is used. They know the 18 and a half year lunar cycle but don't call it sacred you're just saying that because you're trying to put a spin on it your spin on it I'm not saying you in particular right right I'm saying the new agers take that spin so let me put it to you this way there's a site

46:10 in America, in New Hampshire. It's called America Stonehenge. There are standing stones all around the center of that henge when the stone family bought the property way back in the 60s and began to clear the woods and do primitive well archaeological digs on the site they found what they now call a sacrificial table. Well it's a sacrificial altar in my opinion. They also found standing stones in the woods And they realized as they began to delve into it that, wow! The summer solstice sunrise comes right over that stone. And they began to find the winter standing stones and the equinoxes and both solstices...summer solstice, winter solstice. And then they realized that the site was built on 18-and-a-half year lunar cycle

47:02 If the site is 4,000 years old how do these people who built it know about the 18 and a half year lunar cycle? And this is so-called sacred geometry. But what if it's not sacred? What if it's handed down by the dragon? What if the dragon and his forces are the ones that are embedding all this incredible math into these sites because that's their language and they show it because it totally dazzles us even today. So when you take a line from the center of America Stonehenge out to the Somerset-Sustaining Stone, and you continue it on Google Earth," which is what Kelsey Stone did years ago. He was a 23 year old college student so this is about 10 years ago. And he's on Google Earth and he extends the line and he just wants to see if the line comes near his house. He's just goofing around. So it does! It comes pretty close to him and he thinks to himself, wow that's pretty cool

47:57 And so he extends the line because he's on Google Earth. Then, he extends it a little further and he's up by Nova Scotia and then he's out over the Atlantic and now he's through Ireland and he finds himself in southern England. And my light bulb goes off and he says to himself I wonder how close the line comes to Stonehenge, England? So he zooms in that line, my friend bisects the center of the two trilithons which are at right angles to each other that line bisects the lentil piece, the cross piece, the cross beam above the two pillars which is a physical impossibility. It's not a Coinkidink. That is the language of The Dragon and why do I say that? Because they discovered a stone all right they discovered a stele that was buried under about 18 inches of dirt in a collapsed chamber on America Stonehenge

48:55 I show this in film. It's number four and number five of Amitrel of the Nephilim series, you can go there by going to streaming.lamarzulli.net and just download it for a cup of coffee, five bucks, you can watch those films specifically number four, The Canaanite Connection, streaming.lamarzulli.net here is the deal that stone When Kelsey was taking me, I was running B-roll. He's taking me through the museum and he is pointing out with different artifacts at America Stonehenge that they had found." And he goes, well here is a display case of written messages that we found on the site. Okay, that's pretty cool. Well what does this one say? And he goes, well that's written in Iberian Punic and it says to bail of the Canaanites in dedication

49:46 And I'm speechless. And you hear me go, what did you just say? He kind of laughs nervously—it's all on film—and he goes to Bale the Canaanite in dedication. Well with all due respect to Dennis Kelsey's father and Kelsey's father they didn't know about the Nephilim. They weren't sure of the Bale connection What is that doing in New Hampshire? A dedication stone written in Iberian Punic. That stone was in the museum for 11 years before Dr. Professor Barry Fell came into the museum, saw the stone and said, I think I can translate it—it looks like Iberian Punic."

50:27 and he translates it to Bell of the Canaanites in dedication. That's my wheelhouse, that's Nephilim architecture, fallen angel technology and mathematics is the secret language of the dragon, which is embedded in all of these ancient sites. And there is a connection between America's Stonehenge and the other ancient sites that are found around the world, which is number five of our Amaterallovenephyllium series. We call it the Axis Mundi, The Center Of The World. You can watch it again by going to streaming at lamarzulli.net. lamarzulli.net is the website. Our streaming site is streaming at lamarzulli.net

51:09 When the Stone family realized a connection between the Summer Solstice Standing Stone and America's Stonehenge in Stonehenge, England they were blown away. And they checked that numerous times so then they started to go to other standing stones and those other standing stones went on when you go on Google Earth you wind up in Chaco Canyon New Mexico You wind up in Teotihuacan, Mexico. Machu Picchu, Peru. The pyramids—the step pyramids on the Canary Islands. The Great Pyramid of Giza. The serpent mound in Ohio. I'm not making this stuff up! You can't do that in the ancient world

51:52 You can't do that 4,000 years ago. You have to be able to triangulate from the air—number one—and number two you've got to know the curvature of the Earth and you've got to know advanced geometry and trigonometry to do this. This is the secret language of the dragon, some people call it sacred geometry—I take umbrage with that—it's not sacred at all! It's incredibly foul and unclean, and it is the language of the dragon. And all these sites that I just mentioned—Chaco Canyon, Teotihuacán, Machu Picchu, Sacsayhuaman—all these different places

52:32 the Step Pyramids, the Pyramid of Gaza. This is all Nephilim architecture, fallen angel technology in my opinion and before I'm done this little rant here's something to think about when all these sites are built not all but many are built on the 18 and a half year Metonic cycle, 18 and a half year Lunar Cycle so let's say you and i go back in time 4 000 years and we stand up and we look at the clear night sky and we see the moon rise. And we go, wow! That's pretty cool." Then we see it set. The next night we go out and look at it and you say, You know? LA is something different. The moon seems to be rising in setting in different places every night. I said okay great so we'll use this. We'll take this slab of stone and make this the center of our observatory then we will go out from our center and put a stick where we can see a stake on the ground marking the lunar

53:32 when the moon comes up, when it rises and when it sets. So now you've got two snakes in the ground." Well, the problem with this is we don't know where we are in that 18-and-a-half year lunar cycle. Did we start tracking the moon in year 5? In year 10? In year 3? We don't know. We have no idea and we have no computers So, we just got staged to the ground and we're doing this for 30 or 40 days. Finally a big rainstorm comes in and we can't see the moon so now we gotta start all over." This begs the question where does the knowledge of the 18 1⁄2 year lunar cycle come into play? Well, The Book of Enoch provides that answer. It tells us that one of the fallen watchers Sariel showed

54:23 the procession of the moon to mankind gave that knowledge to mankind. So you tell me, language of the dragon." Dang! Well I gotta applaud that. That was a really great rant and you make some excellent points and... Thank you sir. Of course it is true when you talk about Baal or Baal like Like there's so many references in modern culture to that kind of stuff. I mean, Bloomberg spent money on extracting an ancient temple of Mithras and there was the Hillary Clinton emails thing about looking for Gilgamesh his tomb. And you got award shows where people can decode it and it's all quite dark symbolism even though it's up there to just razzle dazzle people. And it seems great because Hey, Katy Perry is on a flaming

55:09 lion, but then you get that decoded and it's always the dark side of spirituality. And then you look at statues that are in front of state buildings and it just looks like something kind of innocuous but when its decoded it's like oh no they're referencing another dark entity. Then you get into NASA and again it's all this old gods, Egyptian gods, Osiris Rex is the name It's quite strange. I mean, SpaceX is the dragon...is the name of the Dragon X or Falcon X and the dragon that again goes back to Egyptian mythology? Mm-hmm. It's quite strange but clearly people at the top are clued in and they encode this stuff intentionally. Are these the descendants of the Nephilim? What do you think their relationship really is with all this stuff? Well, in my opinion, this is all the finetips of the dragon.

56:06 And what drives me nuts, Greg about all this stuff is that many people never understand what's written in the guidebook of a supernatural. So they equate going to church or the Catholic Church with incense and robes and stained glass windows and monks with funny haircuts and all this nonsense as what's going on, and they don't understand what's written in the guidebook unless a person understands Genesis 3.15 and then goes and reads the rest of it, and understands that we see—I've written two books on this one is called The Cosmic Chess Match. The other one is called Countermove How Van Effeling Returned After the Flood. You can find them by going to lamarzuli.net Those are books so you can't download them but you can buy them

56:55 and those will open your eyes, reader—people listening—of what's really written in that book. The guidebook to the supernatural, the cosmic chess match because there are protocols of this heavenly conflict war which has been going on for millennia and those protocols are there we're not privy to all of them but we get glimpses of it and we also get unlike any other book on this planet we get this thread of prophecy from Genesis to Revelation, which the only book on the planet that has that thread of prophecy is the biblical prophetic narrative. IE, The Guidebook of the Supernatural. So I'm not talking religion like you see on TV with these guys yelling for money and all the antics and all the silliness that accompanies with it—and there's a lot of good people…I can think of one show, Prophecy Watchers

57:50 I'll be on that show coming up in the next couple of weeks. I'll be flying in and I've been on that show numerous times." They're stand-up guys, there's no nonsense there. There is no hoopla or hype or anything else—they are just real stand-up guys and I have been on their show numerous times. And you know, I have a great allegiance with those people but what we are talking about is this great conflict between the dragon and his forces and The Most High God That's what we're talking about. If a person knows that and understands it, then all the dominoes all around the globe make sense. Everything just goes click-click-click but you get a guy like Stephen Greer—with all due respect to Stephen—or Graham Hancock who is a brilliant researcher and Graham is like

58:39 You know, he was talking about these sites before I even knew what they were. I visited many of the same sites that Graham Hancock has and I have a different take on it only because my worldview is that of a biblical prophetic worldview and what these people don't understand is that thread of prophecy goes from the book of Genesis all the way to the book of Revelation. Why does Jesus warn us going back to the UFO films that men will faint from fear for what is coming upon the earth. Why does Jesus single out in prophecy, it'll be like the days of Noah when I return? Why does Jesus state on the record that even the elect would be deceived if that were possible?"

59:22 You know, you show me any other book on this planet that has that type of prophecy with that type of specificity. Even the elect would be deceived if that were possible? Men think for fear of what is coming upon the earth because they did not believe the truth God sends them strong delusion? The dragon comes with all signs and lying wonders! I just shot four things at you That's not fuzzy quatrains like we read in Nostradamus. That Jesus warns us it'll be like the days of Noah, which immediately begs the question—well what does the days of Noah look like that differentiates that time from any other time in history? Bingo! We all know the answer. It's the mingling of a seed. And what's interesting is the book of Daniel, which I talked about earlier…which is a sealed book

1:00:16 Okay? You can't open that book until the time of the end, as I said earlier. The being, entity, the angel—the watcher angel talking to Daniel says seal up the words in this book, Daniel, until the time of the end. Then he tells us what the time at the end will look like and we've already elaborated on that. Men and women will run to and fro over the face of the earth as I speak men and women are running flying to and fro over the face of the Earth all over it knowledge increases now exponentially And that's unprecedented, absolutely unprecedented. So we're in this window of time which is in my opinion just mind boggling. Way to stick the landing man!

1:01:01 Wow. Well, I got to let you go eventually this has been a fascinating whirlwind of information. I appreciate your time and the dedication you have these topics. I've been hearing you on coast-to-coast for years. I think even as far back as my college days talking about Mothman as a fallen angel and that always stuck with me but yeah, My thoughts have evolved a lot in the last 15 years but you were certainly an influence on me at various times and maybe even more so today than ever Before I let you go, let people know about the various links they need. The various irons in the fire if they want to follow up. I mean 13 books 25 films no small thing Yeah it's LAMarzuli on YouTube LAMarzuli on YouTube Our website is lamarzuli.net LAMarzuli.net our streaming site is streaming dot lamarzuli.net

1:01:54 And you can go and you can watch all the stuff we've been talking about. Binge-watch them, spend some money! What the heck? What are you waiting for?" You will educate yourself—you really will because he just said it 13 books 25 films there is a corpus of work there as a body of work there so thanks for having me on it's been a hoot and God bless you sir Heck yeah. Nice, well take care we will beware the great deception and just stay on the trail Thank you Hallelujah Hireside Chatters! The Great L.A Marzulli There is no doubt that he's dedicated and has a big name in this space who has been doing it since I was barely 20 years old

1:02:40 If I could go back and tell myself, I'd eventually be interviewing this guy talking about Mothman as a fallen angel on coast to coast. It would have blown my young naive little mind So i got an immense amount of respect for him And I do think he has some major pieces of the puzzle correct The general fallen angels story of something along those lines happening in the ancient past seems relevant to me Just by observing the way the elite bloodlines try to preserve their genetics and focus so heavily on things in that space tells us that there's something going on there. And the idea that all this current day UFO posturing and drip, drip, drip through conventional media is a great deception? Yeah I'm right with him on that too!

1:03:28 And those are really some of his most key positions, so kudos to him. Because those are big points that a lot of other researchers don't give any attention to. That said I think people who have identified themselves with one specific faith also tend to write off a lot of others as somehow dark or bad or just wrong. Obviously all three major religions do that whether we're sinners infidels or goyim They all pretty much say, if you ain't one of us then you're pretty much screwed. So I do just get a little bit defensive of the other guests we have that are, say mystics or shamans of various disciplines because a lot of them are good people doing good positive things in the world Maybe they were once wounded or broken and now have a call to heal

1:04:24 Maybe they got involved with local indigenous traditions in their area and went deep, deep down and came out wanting to share something that was impactful for them. Maybe like Dr. Cuyahva they had a strange kundalini experience and wanted to dive deeper into what that could have meant for spirituality because I say if God made us top-to-bottom as we are Then these abilities we have, to astral travel or enter altered states through breath and meditation. They're gifts from God as I see it! Though I still think L.A is right about Dr Greer in several ways too so both can be true though my own personal religion is that there is something divine about this place and this life And we are here to engage and explore dare I even say indulge to a degree

1:05:19 Ultimately, we're here to learn I would say but we learn through those mechanisms. Through action and adventure and exploration And when it comes to something like a demon actually responding or fleeing when you call Jesus's name...I would acknowledge that and say it's probably the power of archetypes and tulpas or something to that degree Again, I'm not an expert. I'm just saying what I think given the long history of talking to a lot of various wise people. It's not outside the realm of possibility that there has just been so much mental energy poured into the concept of Jesus, that it makes Jesus real regardless of the literal historical record and in demon land on that side of the veil thought forms are as real as anything!

1:06:09 And I can't think of a much more powerful thought form archetype than Jesus, based on the mental attention and energy that the concept has gotten. So I can appreciate LA and the large number of areas we overlap and still say that we have some differences but if you saw that recent review that i tweeted out you'd think I was The Dark Prince himself But as fun and interesting as the free show was, if you're not a plus member. You also missed a lot of good stuff we talked about shamanic initiation and the human sacrifice requirement with the folks that L.A has talked to The Kandahar giant in Afghanistan how LA verified the story as true The work of David Flynn RIP Bigfoot Beast Of The Earth waiting to make their move

1:07:01 the demonic ecology, technology demons and vessels for contact cattle mutilations bovine blood in the hybrid agenda rh negative blood and the shaman statement we also talked about the Catalina giant cover-up LA caught them fudging a photograph of a giant. And we talked about that question if God brought the flood to wipe out the Nephilim how are they still around? All good stuff. Very interesting sign up at the higher side chats dot com if you want the full hour show of this episode and every episode, and thank you to those who do but I would recommend L.A.'s documentaries there are fun to watch some previous THC guests make appearances in his interviews too which was also a nice surprise And big thanks to Flophouse Jr for that intro song i've played it a few times I like the vibe It sets up

1:07:56 I wish i had a choir version of the show intro for times like these but it just hasn't come across my inbox yet. But episodes are coming out a bit faster and we got two more to go plenty of time left not really that bad, We are catching up! And there's a lot to like about the next two very different from this one and from each other and that's what we're going for So before I get out of here, you know we're looking at the meetup calendar. I just saw a few more posts across social media about wanting to make a meetup. I wish people would stop doing that! You just gotta go and put it on the calendar don't try to feel out the audience through a tweet because it's such an inefficient way to go and chances are local THC fans will see it

1:08:43 are very low. So just go ahead and be bold, take five minutes fill out the simple form of where you want to meet and when and what you might want to do or discuss. And then you can know that whether 5 people show up or 15 people they're there specifically to do those things usually have a drink talk about high strangeness in conspiracy and form some local bonds on that common ground On deck, we still only have two for the month of July. We have the Auckland New Zealand meetup on July 1st and a Brooklyn New York meetup on July 15th It's a big wide world out there I hope more people take advantage of this and I hope it doesn't fizzle out but if it does...it does Either way big thanks to L.A Marzulli for his dedication and for taking the time

1:09:36 I would say he is one of those people who was right there and influencing me throughout the years when i was into this material and in my infancy of learning about these things. He was a bucket list guest let's say so like any good pokemon trainer, I gotta catch them all! And I can scratch L.A Marzulli off that list now So now I'm getting out of here. I've done my part, your move fallen angels faithful Nephilim foot soldiers and great UFO deception disseminators! Your fucking move. Oh no you see the world is in randomness attached to puppet strings control over a thing

1:10:28 The 9 to 5 has tried to steal ya Now don't that job seem silly? Hello, can you hear me Or should I play back recordings From some spying agency Wish we were younger and free I'll be thankful when it's all exposed The vast conspiracy There is such a difference Between us and the Denver Roads From the highest of the gods They'll tell you the story Of everything that has been done

1:11:29 deception of the web that's been spun. Hollow from the higher side, the earth is high they'll tell you about something no one else have heard, have you heard about The Real since the war? But know their cartoons

1:12:10 It's so typical of me to talk about the stuff I'm sorry that's good and well Did you ever hear the argument? That nothing really happens, it's no secret And that the best is plumb It's doubling your time From a higher side They're calling out a thousand crimes. They'll tell you something the elite have done, and they'll call out deception on the web that's been sworn from them challenging your plan! And I'll tell you something... That the battle has begun but we can't fight it with violence

1:13:26 The mind's where it's won at war. I'm the one hollow from the higher side. Hang out outside, they'll tell you what we have done and they'll call our deception on the web that spins full of from the higher side. Challenging your paradigm and they'll tell you

1:14:33 That the battle's begun But we can't fight it with violence The mind's where it's run, that's the point