Kenneth M. Price Jr. | The Titanic, The Hindenburg, & The Oil Only Oligarchy

00:05 Puppet masters almost surely have clearly made me something heavy. And until you've thoroughly tested every last course, just if you know the less you really do... That's true Dr. Seuss! Without THC, could they lie and do us just a- Without THC, the higher side checks show I would constantly

00:43 Alright, Hireside Chatters. We've heard about many of the tricks the 19th century robber barons and wealthy industrialist families have used to shoehorn society into a profitable path for their nefarious few things like defunding and suppressing the work of Nikola Tesla engineering the prohibition era to remove alcohol as a fuel option disrupting a school system designed to command obedience to the management class, buying and burying a plethora of energy-advancing patents and of course sinking the Titanic to destroy their political opponents in trap America in the net of the Federal Reserve's debt based system of rule

01:19 But that's not all, folks. It seems the more we examine this worrisome window of time the more connections we find to the way society has been shaped and manipulated to serve these petroleum profiteers above all else. And lucky for us this very subject has been the life's work at today's guest Kenneth Price Ken reached out to me after hearing John Hamer discussing the Titanic conspiracy on THC, and told me he thinks there is a bit more to the story behind sinking the unsinkable ship. That it might also parallel the Great Hindenburg Disaster and that both of these events seem to be key pieces in the forced petroleum dependence puzzle

01:56 Ken has made his case in an amazing yet to be released 400 plus page expose entitled Titanic and Hindenburg two tragedies one plan that's bound to blow minds. And I'm psyched to be able to go over it with him today, Mr Price Goodsir welcome to the higher side Thank you very much greg it's just a great honor to be here just super pleasure i'm so. Appreciate that use found interest in this and we're willing to give me a shot at this incredible story, oh man well thanks for being here i am so glad you got in touch with me because as a conspiracy guy i'm really fascinated with the industrial era because it seems like

02:34 the key time period where we can trace a lot of our current control system back to and where we see the wealthiest elite families really cement themselves at the top of the food chain. But before we get too deep, I wanted to ask you how this became such a preoccupation for you? The book talks about a lot of technical details and added aspects that suggests You have a lot of knowledge in this area. Since this is your first time talking publicly about these things, I believe tell us a bit about how you got here? Did you work in the industry? Well yes, I did! I worked in the oil industry and maybe that's a key component of understanding exactly what's going on here with the Titanic and also the Hindenburg

03:14 So I had that background. You know, I know the industry is shady from the beginning. I pretty much learned that after working for him for 14 years so i have that as a background but it was in 1985 and I was driving around to the Bay Area coming back from job and I heard that they found the Titanic and it was into pieces and I just thought boy that is just so unusual so that's kind of where I started I continued to ponder and research the Titanic, but it wasn't really until 2005 when there was another discovery made by an independent group of divers called Chatterton & Kohler. They financed a dive by themselves and they managed to find some pieces of the hull of the Titanic. Now this is right from the very bottom of the hull slightly aft of midships

04:13 right underneath the engines, two gigantic pieces that go from port to starboard. And there's two pieces and each one of them is approximately the same length about 30 feet taken together they represent 5400 square feet of whole bottom now when I say whole bottom we're talking really 2 bottoms because the Titanic had a double bottom It had a one-inch layer of thick steel on the very bottom, and then it had ribs that were five feet tall. And then it had another layer of one inch thick steel on top of that from the sides came up from there at half inch all the way up to size 80 90 feet worth of sides and then it had nine decks those are all half inch thick steel

05:05 To make a long story short, I think any metallurgist out there, any person who's really a good welder or knows steel or has worked with steel when i tell them this they're going to know that I've got a good point. Because these pieces came out from corner-to-corner! Now how do you pull a corner out of a sheet of steel? How are you gonna pull that so you can pull it at the right angle Out of a piece of plate steel the fact that matter is that still it might bend and will sort of stretch and eventually break but to tear is just almost impossible because it requires so much force as it yields.

05:53 You know, it's stress relieves itself as you're stretching it. So you have to continue to pull the load. You have to continue, continue, continue and it is just unreal to try and tear steel. Now how do we end up with these pieces that are literally square? Not only that but there are two layers. There's a layer on the top and a layer on the bottom and the cut lines are lined up okay and it's cut athwart ships, in other words crosswise to the ship. On the bottom two layers and it's cut in three places. And normally you'd have failure occur in one place when something fails, a beam or column whatever fails in one place. The Titanic failed has three points of failure total lines of failure along the bottom

06:48 Now this is getting a little hard to take because let's go back the original story where the Titanic. struck an iceberg on the starboard side. This is how it is written up in the United States disaster hearings, and also written up that way in the British Board of Trade hearings that were held after the Titanic disaster. Both of them this has been written into their hearing's that the cause at the Titanic sinking was 300 feet of damage done along the starboard side of the bow such

07:24 five compartments had to flood in order for the Titanic to sink because it had 16 water-tight compartments. So, it had to receive damage at least say 260, 270 feet so it went into that fifth compartment as well as the bow and the fore back from there and it would have needed to tear Now there's done a lot of calculations of how big the hole was in the Titanic so that it would sink in only 160 minutes. And by the way, that's another phenomenal statistic is how this ship could have ever sank that fast when any old mail steamer of that day took at least five and half hours to sink and that was even with a catastrophic collision from another ship

08:18 So there's a red flag. How did the Titanic go down so fast? Now, it had to have at least 20-foot square hole this has been calculated by marine architects that would've needed totally 20 square feet of hole in order to sink in 160 minutes. That would mean that each compartment needed to have four square feet of area damage to each compartment And they had to be kind of equal because otherwise one compartment might not have filled fast enough to get that bow down into the water low enough, quickly enough so that you could get the ship to continue sinking and get her underwater in 160 minutes. So we're already starting from a really difficult story to swallow in the first place and then we have the testimony

09:13 Charles light polar who was the number one witness as to the Titanic sinking and he even wrote down on a piece of paper because he watched it sink until he wrote it down slipping majestically straight down there's no No explosions, no breaking, no stern breaking off anything like that. He wrote that down and he presented that at the British Board of Trade and also the Senate disaster hearings in the United States. That's what's written into the final court hearings so I also found it really odd that in 1997 when they came out with this movie with a stern breaking off what gave them the right to totally disregard

09:59 The results of two hearings that have been held in the Titanic, but that's exactly what they did. And they didn't mention a thing about that. They sort of in a way pulled the hood over our eyes by starting the new 1997 movie out on the bottom like it was some kind of a scientific documentary you know we were right down with them while they were Looking at all of the wreckage in the damage and it really impressed me i thought boy they're really get to the bottom of story here they brought this old person you know who is actual survivor. They really took us for a ride but i am telling ya, the reason they made that movie because they found out boat on the bottom into pieces and they had to come up with an explanation because

10:46 The pieces are 2270 feet apart which means this ship not only separated into two completely separate pieces but it did so at the surface because otherwise they could have never hit the bottom nearly half mile apart where they lie today. So interesting man and yeah, so I guess seeing these pieces at the bottom of the ocean this throws a huge wrench in the iceberg narrative it couldn't do that. And i guess its suggest some sort of demolition would you say or somehow just letting the ship fall apart premeditatively well. It's interesting is said fall apart because that's exactly what they're trying to get us to believe that the ship fell apart and

11:39 By the way, there's two sister ships to the Titanic. There is the Olympic which stayed in service until 1934 it worked fine then there is the Britannic which was turned into a hospital ship and it was sunk I think before the war was over right toward the end of the war It was sunk by the way the Britannic watertight doors are not down. I spent long time trying to confirm that And since I mentioned that, add that the Titanic's watertight doors. I have looked everywhere for a picture or some testimony that those watertight doors are in fact down and I haven't been able to confirm that but i did confirm that the watertight doors on the Britannic which was a hospital ship those doors were never deployed so what's going on here? I'm not sure they like to blow up steam ships because they're incredibly efficient

12:34 Let me give you an idea just how efficient they are this is a recent information i should maybe put this right at the front of my book as to what's going on here let me explain why the oil industry, despises steam power because we steam power you can run it off anything that will burn you just need to boil water. Okay you don't need some exotic fuel is gonna go through a carburetor and be compressed in an engine not leave it deposit have all these properties that they sell us on, will you need something that will burn what call is that substance now call.

13:11 On a per pound basis doesn't have as much energy but on a per. Leader bases call has the same amount of energy per liter petroleum so you're really going to solid fuel when you go from petroleum to call actually going to a solid fuel which in a way is more advanced than liquid i know that might sound odd but, do you realize how easy it is to handle calls opposed handling toxic liquids anytime there's a leak goes into the ground You know, if you spill coal is scoop it up and no big deal. Right? I wanted to throw this in here real quick in your book. I wrote this down where you say coal can be mined straight out of the ground and dumped into a furnace which produces steam which runs a turbine which powers an electrical grid system which propels cars at 300 miles per hour that get three hundred miles per gallon and never has accidents therefore petroleum derived fuel represents no progress at all beyond

14:09 coal fuel. And that's an important point because we're propagandized so heavily to think coal is dirty, unsafe, rudimentary and that seems to be heavy manipulation from the oil industry to a degree wouldn't you say? Absolutely absolutely! So here's what I was trying well how efficient were these ships well the Titanic used about 600 tons per day of coal 600 tons. Wow, that sounds enormous! Okay it took five days to go from Ireland to New York Five days times six hundred tons a day would be three thousand tons of coal right? And if the Titanic hauled 3,000 passengers divided that into the coal you'd have each passenger requiring a ton of coal To get from Ireland or from say England to New York

15:07 Are you with me? I'm with ya. One ton of coal, sounds... oh man gosh that sounds like oh well from 1908 to 1913 coal was one dollar a ton commercial price Wow so you could move a human being with a cabin and steam heat and eating lobster and drinking cappuccino at 22 knots In total safety and that's what really this book is all about we were totally safe but they convinced us we were not safe. And that's part of where it comes into the hinderberg weather got to go into the flimsy aviation industry, but these coal ships are just engineering marvels because you can move a person across the ocean for a buck so you could see why oil big oil hate steam

16:00 Mm-hmm. And to get into the point you just made a little further, you do say never forget the Titanic went down at the dawn of aviation travel her publicized failure impacted future developments of transportation mechanisms for decades afterwards Tell us a bit more about how important it is for people to really understand this context well This is where it gets hard to explain because you know the coal ship didn't just disappear overnight but if you look at it today. If you look at what ships are powered by today you'd absolutely be floored because they've gone back to reciprocating engines I am not kidding you, they've gone back to where we're using piston engines they got

16:48 You can look at these things are so proud of them there hundred ten thousand horsepower fourteen cylinders the cylinders or six feet in diameter and have like a ten foot stroke. No the engine weighs something like two thousand times They're just gigantic engines and they have very sophisticated fuel systems on them, you know. So they're about one or two percent more efficient than a diesel engine from 1920. They are a little more efficient than the diesel engine from that era but the fuel is so much more expensive than coal it just doesn't make any difference. Most ships today are either running off like heavy fuel oil or they're running off of

17:36 liquefied natural gas, that's another one they're using because that's a little bit cheaper than running on fuel oil. But there are almost no ships out there running on coal and that's really sad because when you burn coal at sea or ash it just is going to land in the water and sink to the bottom and is not gonna cause any kind of environmental hazard really at all That's where you should be burning coal is out there on the open ocean and to have gone back to wear were running on this expensive petroleum product in. You know the engines are very sophisticated but just the same design and they're not efficient overall they're not fishing at all steam engine

18:25 gets four strokes of power for every one stroke of a combustion type engine that's a four-stroke engine. It will only fire every other stroke, whereas a steam engine is firing every stroke not firing it's being pressurized and it's also pressurized on both sides of the piston so literally a one cylinder steam engine has the same amount of push as a 4 cylinder gasoline engine Wow man and you also have some amazing stats in the book along this line that show just how much money they've been raking in and how effective they've been for example, let's take a look at the Los Angeles international airport. In 2012 there were roughly 600 thousand flights which provided travel for 63 million passengers

19:16 If each flight consumed about half the fuel tank capacity, or 25000 gallons that would equate to 15 billion gallons consumed in 2012. That's 15 billion gallons from just one airport and you also note the average American pays about 5000 a year in gasoline costs and when you know these numbers you can see how the oil monopoly has been just as important for them as fractional reserve banking in terms of extracting wealth from every person in the system and it's just pretty mind-blowing, isn't it? Boy what a money making venture. And its got tentacles that go out into everything and we wear it as a yoke We wear the petroleum industry as a yoke of servitude Everything we do they make money off Every time we move somewhere you know Even plastics and pharmaceuticals are oil based Oh they love to use oil based

20:13 components in the pharmaceuticals anywhere they can. And that includes fluoride Amen like to get rid of that and put that in our pharmaceuticals. So to hop back to the larger story here, so you build up this Titanic ship as a modern Marvel You sink it in dramatic fashion use the media to maximize The trauma and drill into people's heads how terrible a disaster It was and steer them into the more profitable modes of transportation And this brings us to the Hindenburg because it's a very similar story it turns out, but I think people know far less about it and about the use of these retired airships in general. It's a pretty fascinating chapter. What can you tell us about the hydrogen airships at the time and how they were being used? Well thanks! I can tell you a lot most people know very little about airships because they want to keep them a secret

21:08 What we see today is an airship is kind of an inflated balloon it's nothing like what any airship was during the golden era. The grass zeppelin which went into service in nineteen twenty eight and did regular transatlantic service from frederick shop and to rio de janeiro so you're living in germany in nineteen twenty eight you could take a trip to rio add You'd be flying 500 feet off the ground and watching whales and dolphins, and the experience was so pleasurable. You had a table to eat at you had a cabin to rest in, it was just wonderful experience. And it's a wonderful form of travel. It totally gets us out of the ocean, it gets us up into the air where we don't have seasickness or worry about hitting reefs and things like that

22:04 So it's really a very efficient form of transportation because it did utilize a form of anti-gravity. This is what people don't realize, what was going on here, is that this device did not have to lift itself you know its total weight was 500 000 plus pounds Get that five hundred feet in the air all you had to do is release the mooring line. Okay and it's going up, and that's how they started out there at least the morning line. They let this ship send five hundred feet i started the engine off they went so are doing is pushing a tube streamline tube through the area don't have to use any power to keep it along just pushing it

22:50 And so these were extremely efficient and not only that but the Hindenburg had diesel engines. diesel engines you notice that we don't have them in very many of our cars today with mostly gasoline engines even like the prius which should be a super efficiency no hybrids supposedly they don't put it is all in that my dad that pre-school and outperform european diesel powered car sorry for your previous owners but It is very easy to make a diesel engine twice as efficient as gasoline engine. You know it starts because the compression is more than double and also an engine that can run lean, which you have always run gasoline rich. That's the whole problem with gasoline. So where was I? We're getting into fuel consumption with the Hindenburg, in fact that was diesel powered yet consumed

23:50 200 gallons per hour this 500,000 pound aircraft only consumed 200 gallons per hour that could reach new york with only going through like 10 thousand. Gallon of fuel which is just a fraction of its payload when you look at transportation today existing fixed wing jet power transportation system they're always calling about five six seven times more weight in fuel than they are cargo because you're losing all the way as they reach their destination but existing jet powered system is extremely inefficient compared to what the end of birth and grass up now grass up one had nine years trouble free service nobody was ever hurt there was no accidents and

24:47 It logged over 18 million miles of service. The Hindenburg was in service for one year prior to 1937 when it was burned, and it had 34 successful transatlantic crossings in 1936 and it was like a one-off prototype. And it was put into service after just a couple of test trials and it went on to make 34 transatlantic crossing without incident. So I mean it was a wonderfully engineered aircraft and very, very fuel efficient. Right you say in the book that the truth about the Hindenburg is that it was the most fuel-efficient and luxurious aircraft ever built at the time capable of flying halfway around the world without stopping? It's so interesting to hear that! How long did it take how fast did it go took a couple days I guess

25:43 I took three days to get from England, so it shortened that transatlantic crossing to three days. No i'm sorry! It shortened it to 50 hours excuse me. The fastest steamship was the USS United States and it eventually got down to three and a half days They're doing about thirty something knots people listening might think well this sounds alright i mean but it is still much slower but you even tie in the fact that these industrialists who kind of.

26:19 Run the working man's world i mean when they only give you two weeks a year for vacation you need to get somewhere quickly but back in this day, i mean people could have a more luxurious vacation and getting one of these airships and have a little sky cruise with great scenery with big cabins right it's. You know lot more luxurious experience rather than jamming people in like sardines throw them across totally but It's just a it's such a different paradigm than the way we experience things today or the way we think about travel in general. Yeah look what they've gradually devolved us into you know to where we sit in these giant long tubes, where everybody has their own little computer screen and were all an isolation

27:04 Whereas before we were all socializing, we're having dinner together and looking out windows together and having a great time even dancing aboard the Hindenburg to their piano. And we have a right to live like this. We earned this, we designed these things and they were successful designs. The Titanic was a successful design no way in 1000 collisions with that ship of ever sank from hitting an iceberg I mean it's just is know what that thing was built so solid And all of those wonderful factory workers at the Harlan Wolfe shipyard that sent that ship off and were told, oh your ship just came apart. All those men who were led to believe that somehow this incredible iron ship came apart at sea they were so deceived and the whole world was deceive over this

27:53 Look we were good engineers that ship was a very, very well designed ship. They ended up convincing us we were trying to leap too far into luxury it was too big and it's too good third class actually had a dining room they had an entertainment room in third class you can get a room with four people or with eight people I mean It was just the most wonderful thing for third class that ever came along. You were totally safe, totally, totally safe. They made us think that you weren't because this is another kind of strange part but the part about the rich that were aboard the Titanic going down with a ship where they got us to believe that they're every bit as civil as we are and they have

28:47 the same kinds of feelings about third class people and they're willing to drown side by side with a holding hands you know if that's the way it is and that's not the way i went. And thats'a reason why I believe, within five years there will be a new investigation complete new justice department hearing on what actually caused the titanic To be sunk right because there is so much information now and they put it all. Front of this watch the history channel two thousand fifteen where they map everything out can see every piece, it's all their three miles wide in his five miles long

29:35 I don't know if you looked at those other drawings, I showed you from the wormhole or Wormwood site. But the center section of the cabins were blown apart in a line that went... In other words there was a way to make parts of the ship go sideways not just breaking lengthwise it also broke the other way Those pieces completely left the ship in a giant midsection of the ship Now, how do you get the ship to split right down the middle in the midship's direction? You know bowed stern. How do you get it to split along a line right down the middle of this ship? But that's exactly what they found and they've documented and you can look into drawings It's called a tear diagram And it shows every deck how they were splitted just incredible the number of pieces that came off that ship

30:33 It's pretty obvious. And to step back to the thing you said about the passengers and the nobility of the first class passengers sacrificing themselves for the women and children, it turns out that's not the case. They didn't even sound the alarm for third-class passengers all the first class people got the hell out of there before any of the peons got a chance. That really shocked me I've got that out of Alan Coon's book on the Titanic disaster hearings which came out in 1994

31:21 researchers would start with that book instead of thinking about rivets and coal fires and things like that. There's something major wrong when they get to the part about the custody fine, and this number one witness admits that the third class never heard an alarm. They were never given alarm. And it's pretty shocking! 156 women and children went down supposedly went down. That's another story, I don't know if you read that part about the missing bones? Yes! We'll get into that later... That was going to be my next question for you for sure definitely on this subject tell us about the fact i mean it is interesting there's been dozens of dives down there they brought back hundreds of items but no skeletons have ever been found which is an element that comes into play with a lot of researchers who talk about these things that are considered to be false flags to induce trauma on the masses usually through the media

32:16 Usually researchers find evidence to suggest that there really aren't as many victims in these tragedies as the story wants you to believe and maybe That's an element here with the Titanic, as well. Absolutely it is. I mean, i can give you one example Captain Smith he was seen after the Titanic went down he was even in a Life Magazine article you can read the life magazine article its called Smitty the missing captain they call him smitty who's living around Philadelphia as this old man who was

32:52 On the verge of you know i guess it was homeless they call them old smitty so they apparently knew who he was and he had to use got a map of the world tattooed on his back in india tattoos on a lot a lot of marks okay, add the involved his body so that they could later. identify who this stranger was. And so his body is still to this day embalmed and if you go there, you can maybe even get a look at it now why would any city embalm the stranger? Since when do they embalm the strangers that they can hopefully identify it later? Have you ever heard of that? That's very strange and you also talk about

33:37 You know, if there's no skeletons found where are the people? What happened to the people and you talk about the idea that they could have been sold into slavery. How likely could that have been at this time period well how much would they have been worth right off the bat a red flag when you're talking 156 women and children Children are worth a lot of money. Hmm, you know, you know about the child slave market That's the dark truth And then you've got women that are missing too. And then you've got all these other men who could have become laborers or slaves, it would be absolutely no problem to just say hey get on this ship we're taking into New York get aboard! You get on board and next thing you know you're in Africa somewhere else or Russia. Right? You mentioned that Russia was big in the slave trading at that time

34:32 It was still going on worldwide and it's still going on today. I mean not world wide but it was, it was stil prevalent in a lot of areas the world wouldn't have been hard to find the market and would've been some extra cash Just like the gold that was aboard and the diamonds that are aboard. Very hard time finding where the gold and diamonds went, I don't know if anybody has gotten that from the Ballard expeditions or any of these other expeditions? Has anybody brought up any gold or diamonds? Right! I would guess it thought was all removed before they blew the thing up

35:12 Very likely and since people know quite a bit less about the Hindenburg story Let's get into that a bit more in the first hour here What are some of the elements that make? The case that its destruction was a premeditated false flag and not the accident that were told it was Well, the main thing that makes it premeditate is affected. It was a very political instrument of Germany the Nazi Party they confiscated the Hindenburg just as it was completed. They confiscated it and they painted the tail fins with swastikas, and they named at the Hindenburg after the last democratic president of Germany so when the Hindenburg went down in a ball of flames there was some symbolism there with the last democratic chancellor of Germany going down in flame

36:06 There was bomb threats a number of times on the Graf Zeppelin and there were bomb threats on the Hindenburg as well. As a result, they had a number of Secret Service people on that flight into Lakehurst New Jersey in 1937 for that very reason to watch out for an act of sabotage And then when it happened to our surprise the FBI acted like oh no wasn't sabotage at all is an engineering failure so they treated that as an engineering failure and they made only a very weak attempt. Find out who investigate those who would have maybe taking part in a sabotage never did treat it as, what's the possibility and even the germans

36:53 didn't treat it as sabotage. Now, the ones who were on the Hindenburg, Rosenthal went down with it and he claimed that there's no other way this went down without sabotage and the lead engineer felt the same way but when they got back to Germany Hitler and Goering said No! We're just gonna write this off as a accident and Spark went up the line When up a hemp line because it got some water on it and went up in ignited the hindenburg on fire just completely impossible. The hemp line is wet at just one end I mean give me a break that's gonna conduct electricity and even if it went out the line how to get a spark where the whole is so you have to have the whole, if there was a hole that was right next to where the line with taxes ship you know

37:52 That's another thing we never got to see the first couple seconds of the footage i mentioned in there that they had twenty two professional photographers five of them had newsreel cameras but none of them managed to get a picture of the first three seconds. When it was actually struck by whatever was struck by or maybe there is a bomb set off for something I believe that it was according to James Perloff, his article about DeBerg and his crew of men that hid behind bushes and fired one incendiary shell from a rifle into the rear end of it. That's what they testified to doing. And I believe that is the correct story. They were just simply behind the bushes

38:39 As far as the way the press presented it, that was way overdone. They had weighed more photographers there than they needed. There's no doubt they edited out all of the footage I mean for 22 professional photographers to miss the shot you know where it actually started burning That's the worst photographic blunder of all time! I can't imagine those guys screwing up worse than that so their material was edited Obviously got the pictures we needed so we can see where the fire started at the stern but that was all edited out and then they. I mentioned in there that Herbert Morrison taped

39:21 Audio transcript of the Hindenburg burning and everybody remembers so well that was taped and it was spliced. End to the pictures later into the movie film layer so what's it was not time sequence since it was splice together didn't all happen together so we were able to really scrutinize his actual words with the actual event, do way it really happened what we got is the way they wanted us to see it happen hydrogen is not that easy to get the bird people out there but what, but hydrogen does not burn without oxygen and h2o so what does that mean you need one part oxygen. The two parts hydrogen because thats what it's gonna go into its gonna go into water that's a reaction anywhere on the planet when i was in kabbas got have one part of oxygen to two parts hydrogen

40:18 And there's just no way you can get something that's inside of a pure hydrogen gas bag to explode because you can't get air into it. Okay, that was going to be one of the questions I had for you cause i was a little confused by that point that it doesn't burn without oxygen and I was gonna say well what about the oxygen in the air but its uh... it's a closed compartment right? Well, the oxygen in the air did allow the Hindenburg to burn. It did burn! Once they fired an incendiary shell through it and got it burning then the bag is going to release the hydrogen into the air... And that just started burning big time. The thing that is really notable about hydrogen what a wonderful fuel it is Is that its gas not liquid

41:06 It didn't fall down on the people it went straight up right all the heat from the hindenburg when straight up and only thirty six people were lost on the hindenburg now i'm thirty six people that's a lot of people but you know we have airliners today to go down with hundreds of people right they don't cancel the design of the airline exactly I was still using them with volatile fuel when they crash the still erupt into a ball of flames and everybody is burned beyond recognition which don't use it. Yeah, I thought that was so interesting because the Hindenburg it looks epic in scale and the visuals of it are very trauma-inducing but you're right the gas goes up and the basket underneath was not as affected as You know like a plane crash would be And I just thought that was so interesting. You also note that when A typical fire were to break out on one of these airships they could stop the thing in the air put it out

42:06 float and then continue going. Whereas a plane, if fire breaks out it's got to land and that's a very dangerous procedure to land and go back up in the air but the media has downplayed the dangers of the only alternative they'll give us and then taken these other things that were much safer and overinflated how dangerous they were and that's one of the real tragedies here Totally, totally. That's exactly what they've done and it's not so much that if you get a fire while you're aloft that-that's really dangerous okay? But if you have an engine failure with a dirigible or lighter than gravity aircraft If you have an engine failure total engine failure You're still safe! You're just floating It's just like your ship at sea and your engine quits you run out of fuel...You're floating

43:02 They don't want us to have a system like that. They want us to have a system where you run out of fuel, you're going down. Psychologically we feel so dependent on fuel and aren't we though? Boy if the jet ever runs out of fuel what an emergency! So it's kind of a system that doesn't make a lot of sense alongside these lighter than or anti-gravity craft that are just infinitely so much safer And this is another thing I wanted to try to get into, or throw in the first hour before we get deeper into the story. But we have the major cliff notes here and to read another excerpt that gets into other alternatives you write both of these disasters had the effect of steering the public into a transportation system that would require and consume expensive processed petroleum fuels in place of cheaper alternatives

43:54 Making these negative trends look positive to the public was a standard mode of operation during the era. Another mind game we have fallen for, few people can even conjure in their minds that there was actually a 20-year period beginning in 1885 where the best vehicles on the road were electric powered. The gasoline engine at that stage was a piece of unreliable noisy junk compared with smooth riding Riker electric vehicle that was preferred car of the rich and steam powered engines from ships and trains were scaled down such that by 1905, the Stanley Steamer was a reliable mass produced car. Early Model Ts were also equipped to burn alcohol as standard fuel." I find these sorts of things really mind blowing because like you say we have this one idea drilled into our heads can you tell us any more about early vehicles in the options we had at the time before the oil monopoly was really secure?

44:46 Oh yeah, toward the end of the book we get into Nikola Tesla which you know the most benevolent engineer that's probably ever been on this planet and he was shut down by JP Morgan. Now he had a system in transportation that was light years ahead and we might be seeing that in the next couple years by the way because we are getting ready for a transportation Revelation in this country that's why i'm releasing. This material now i think it's a key part of we need to wake up make sure we don't rebuild the same system that we have where we use asphalt roads rubber tires you know just every time return around were bolstering the petroleum industry and

45:33 we got to stop using roads that degrade from sunlight. Asphalt is the worst material they could have ever come up with for roads, it won't even stand up to sunlight so as soon as it's laid down you've already established a renewal clause and evergreen clause with the oil industry for infinite numbers of topping re-topping resurfacing. It's just constant windfalls that come towards the oil industry I love that element too, that it has a byproduct problem and that by-product is asphalt tar. And that's why they use it to make the roads. They use it for rubber tires. They use it for roofing shingles... Not that it's the best thing for these things but it's just the only option we're allowed. No other way to get rid of it? You know no petroleum product is qualified to be thrown away in a landfill if you're going to throw away crude oil

46:27 as comes out of the ground it's gotta go to a toxic waste landfill which of course no industry is stupid enough to try to afford. But they turn around and use these toxic materials in their tires that wear everywhere on the planet surface that's ok, they make fuels out of them that burned everywhere on the planet surface that's okay but don't throw away the land filled with the EPA Will give you a big hefty fine you can't do that it's a toxic material. So we're spreading toxicity everywhere and that why we have to get out from under this i think i also point out of the book if there is a way for us to get out of it overnight and ask just to convert all of our petroleum cars into alcohol powered cars because the oil industry with one additional component can convert their gasoline into methanol

47:21 They just won't do it they won't do it because they get too much yield when you combine gasoline with water for the necessary hydrogen and oxygen in order to make the hydrocarbon methanol molecule. You end up with four and a half times the amount of gasoline that started with You know, in other words one part gasoline two parts water about 900 degrees centigrade high pressure very very. High-pressure equipment dangerous you don't need to be done by the refinery not at home but they have catalytic crackers at the refinery and they could simply design these to crack their fuel into methadone and then they won't do it because that would

48:07 Cut our usage by 80% right there. In that paragraph I had read, I mentioned that Stanley Steamer personal vehicle that you wrote about and it seems so strange a steam powered personal vehicle what was that like? How efficient was that? Well, I'm glad you asked because I was so interested in this car that I went to the Stanley Steamer Museum which is in Ethernburg. Oh, can't remember. Ellens? Oh it's in Colorado. Estes Park, that's where its at. There's a Stanley Steamer Museum and it's got about six or seven of these beautiful Stanley steamers they are just wonderful pieces of engineering work

48:55 They could run on anything that would burn the usually use gasoline because gasoline you know start out is being very cheap so we all got hooked on it so you can just gasoline or kerosene diesel. Or alcohol anything that would boil water and there was a two cylinder engine the engine was about, Maybe fifty to a hundred pounds you know if you look at it compared to a model t four cylinder model key engine that was. Fraction of the weight now it also had to have a boiler, But the thing that's neat about the stanley steamer is that there is no electrical system required you could start it with a match didn't need to starter motor you didn't need a clutch, you didn't need transmission and thats the beauty of steam it performs the clutch in the transmission for you so.

49:49 You're basically always direct drive, you're just opening steam valves. Steam engine has maximum torque at like zero RPM because the steam pressure just keeps building until the device starts to move whereas with a combustion engine if it doesn't move the engine just stalls, that's it! We gotta restart it, rev it up. With steam engines you just leave in gear and let the steam pressure keep building and you start moving Wonderful wonderful power and the stanley steamer was in terms of efficiency it was about a fifteen mile per gallon. Vehicle not as efficient as i would have thought but i know with some refinement they could've gotten those up to,

50:32 100 miles per gallon without too much difficulty. That's just so interesting and those electric cars, early electric cars I'm sure people have in their heads that they were pretty basic and rudimentary but you say that they were around like 20 years before? I mean... 20 years! That's huge and these were also pretty effective right? Yes they were very effective They even had the battery exchange program by Philadelphia Electric Company Add to basically just exchange batteries with them this one on for i think fifteen years they had this program electric cars are much easier. To construct in these very complicated gasoline engines got so many potential problems you wanna backfire they want to run all they don't wanna start the water vapor lock

51:27 The fuel is a it's gotta be just right or you get too much carbon. The vowsel stick the pistons old where out really, i love engineering went into a really lousy design to get that thing to work at all whereas when they were starting electricity they had a winning design and it would have just gotten better and better and better Man. And the Riker is just one example, that was one of the ones I picked because it was preferred by the rich because it was so safe and never ever have to worry about the thing not starting back in those days that was a big deal. It's just so interesting to have the whole kind of visual component what you think at time was flipped on its head! I just loved that

52:16 Yeah it was fun, I give a lot of credit to this internet. It's wonderful the way you can fact check stuff without having to go down to the library and dig dig dig! And that is what i did, just fact checked everything i could wrote it down the way it really was and I think I mentioned that I first wrote a whole nother book called rise install the piston engine. I wrote that book before even started the titanic in hinderburg so I was already on to the oil industry something wrong here the fact they promoted, the worst possible engine

52:56 They could have no you mentioned something else about what was going on before that. Before that is far back as seventeen ninety six they didn't vented the sterling engine and that's, i really interesting engine it's a piston engine with about one fourth of the moving parts of a combustion engine and more efficient and does not need an electric starter, does not need an electric system, does not need an exhaust system, and does not need a cooling system. That's a sterling engine it's kinda like gas engine and just kind of reuses its same gas back and forth from one person to the other. And it has a hot end and cold end, what you use to supply heat to the hot in is anything that will burn grass clippings hay gasoline sure diesel fuel or even use lard anything that'll burn

53:56 So these kinds of designs are very much frowned upon, they're avoided by the oil industry because they are more efficient. Right? In terms of fuel consumption, and that's a great point about the engine too because you say that gasoline was formulated to ensure we would never get good gas mileage. You know that obviously a key component and it is coupled with the engine being the most inefficient engine design they could come up with because I got a product to sell and they don't want to just eliminate the alternatives. They want to get the most out of the only option they're going to give us so fuel efficiency has been

54:33 you know, basically off the table and now we talk about it in the last decade or two but even then it's a snail's pace. Right well and I also mentioned in there that from 1850 on there was torpedo development that involved all kinds of exotic fuels like hydrazine and hydrogen peroxide and methanol mixed with hydrogen peroxide these fuels later showed up in Germany in this flying jet plane called The Comet that was a rocket-powered plane, ran on hydrazine and hydrogen peroxide. They were using these fuels back in 1850 and onward up as they were developing torpedoes and they never messed with gasoline because it was such lousy fuel. They didn't even mess with it. And these were turbine powered. These torpedoes were extremely powerful and compact

55:29 And they were building scavs of them. It's not because they had so many submarines, but they used them for harbor defense and all you need to do is get a couple of these put him on a barge within your harbor and then you can stop the battleship from coming in and wreaking havoc and shelling your city, you know? So torpedoes for Harbor Defense was huge business toward the 1890s 1900 right around there Add it was big business there these were sold all over the world and there was a lot of technology there and none of this was ever applied to our car transportation industry and i didn't go into our aviation industry, either instead of giving us turbin engines in our world war one planes they gave us gigantic rotary engine that is the most blunt engine design you could possibly come up with just a giant bath.

56:23 You know what I'm talking about with a rotary piston engine where you have like nine or eleven cylinders in a circle? Like a Corsair, typical example. Navy Hellcat things like this they had these if you notice Germans always went to like V8s and V12s they always put their engines in line and they were water cooled but Not us, man. We had to use these big huge radial engines that just consumed huge amounts of fuel to get them to go three four hundred knots. Just a gigantic wind baffle going through the air

57:03 So we could have applied the torpedo technology, could have gone right into the first war with very compact turbine engines if we had wanted to. But that was not done! And that is also so interesting because you do write about several aspects of World War Two that come into play during the saga. Seems to be another pretty big piece of the puzzle and correcting the history here, what would you consider some of the important things we should know to get into World War Two a little bit further and how it relates to the big story? Well, World War II was planned. It was a continuation of World War I which was the world's first gigantic petroleum-powered war and World War II took that to a whole other level. I can't remember the figure in there. I believe it's 500 billion gallons of petroleum were consumed in World War II.

58:11 The profit, you know this was not drilled for and supplied by the country. By the US military. This was purchased from an oil company. And not only that but these oil companies supplied their fuel to the enemy as well as to the allies so they could Basically play themselves upon each other you know supply demand i mean it's so there are so many conflicts of interest the business here governments allowing this to go on. Of course the only reason they did is because they were part of it right now the oil industry was above them not the other way around well tycoons and bankers they run the world

58:57 They got a few more years. It's gonna come to an end. And they know it, they know it but... It's all out there now, it's all been done and delineated history will provide the evidence necessary to convict them of what they've done in A lot these guys might think that died and gone off to heaven and gotten away with it but they haven't That's all gonna come out Anybody that's listening to me and is getting angry because I'm saying things that are kind of blowing their paradigm, you know. I am doing this completely free of charge. I've decided i'm not going to try and make a book out of this. I'm not gonna try and make a profit. I want this material out there

59:46 I think the only possible defense that I have is that, I'm going to give this book away for free. So we can give out this website and they can email me and i will send them first six chapters of this book and they can then get back to me and if their sincere ill give em some more but if they want to try and tear me apart But i think i can stimulate a lot more research and book writing out there i think people listening to this are gonna immediately know just by hearing what i told him about that debris field with regard to the titanic, we have been had and gosh.

1:00:29 What a wonderful thing to lift from the human psyche is this terrible ship disaster that really had all of us scared of ever traveling by sea and had all those people who built ships and designed ships in total quandary as how their ship didn't work. When they're engineering principles were sound, they were very sound So I'm trying to lift this veil and tomorrow's gonna be a lot better day than it was today, but I'd just like to say that the truth never suffers from an honest examination of the facts. Amen! So I've given you some facts, I've given everyone some facts before you condemn me take a look at those pieces out of the bottom of the Titanic and take a look at that debris field and take a look at the tear drawing

1:01:27 from Wormwood and I don't think you're gonna want to condemn me after that. I think you're going to realize that somehow they have done a real number on us, psychologically. I don't know how they got us to believe that the Titanic broke itself into two pieces in the act of sinking I mean, there's a lot of people who feel the exact same way about jet fuel melting steel beams. How do you push the lie? But the media manipulation is just so strong and people are conditioned from kindergarten to only accept things from an authority figure. Authority figures have to tell you things all through school they're infallible and the same goes for the media. They're the authority and people just don't take in any information that

1:02:16 doesn't come from those authority figures in the mainstream, you know in a lot of cases. Yeah we're a wonderful race and we're very trusting and they take advantage of our trust mm-hmm they put it on at a modern media give it as a new look and it's easy for us to fall forth is they bring it right into the comfort of our own homes they give us these high definition TVs like they really love us and we believe it We do everything that comes to that TV is either to propagandize us or to keep us distracted and it's one of the two things and they serve really the same purpose which is don't look at the. Puppet masters in the plans they have in place just go about your daily call gonna we a life than nine to five reality and then you know die as quick as you can please,

1:03:09 Yeah. Oh, boy! Isn't that the truth? Oh man... Well there are just layers and layers of red flags to this thing you make a really great case I loved the book i think it's so impressive It is such a huge undertaking to even write the book and then turn around and say that your going to be generous enough to offer up free to interested people who get in contact with you I mean its beautiful thing Well, thanks for that. I think it's time to start giving away what we can give away to humanity and all of you people out there that have the design for how to convert water into make it burn let us have that design will tell us what that frequency is where that water molecule comes apart and separates readily those of you who have a free energy design let us have it get it out there because otherwise

1:04:07 That's how we can win. We need to win as a whole and that will all be winners. Cheers to that! Well, thanks again for being here and take care of yourself alright man? I will, I'll be in touch. We'll see what happens. Thank you Greg. You got it Ha-le-lujah people! Kenneth M. Price Jr., a new face in this space and fresh perspective on the influence and gameplay of the oil industry I love it, I know we've talked about these subjects before but Mr. Price brings a new level of clarity to it and expands it further than I have ever heard before

1:04:55 I think the narrative of parallel stories between the Titanic and Hindenburg makes a lot of sense. And if you think about the context at that time, and also you need to know the numbers and viability of these other fuel sources A picture starts to emerge, and another thing Ken said to me in an email after the show was that one ton of coal has the same energy content as 188 gallons of petroleum. He goes on to say so people will know that when they lobby to shut down coal they're really just helping the oil industry expand I know we're told coal is so dirty and harmful but isn't it possible that is propaganda? It doesn't seem worse than gasoline at all. I have charcoal toothpaste and a charcoal bristle toothbrush for God's sake! And yes, there are other alternatives suppressed

1:05:46 patents for all kinds of exotic energies, but let's just get off on this level of the elevator today and realize maybe we don't have to dig that deep at all to find better alternatives. I mean, I know people who nearly drank themselves to death in high school and charcoal saved their lives! I am fucking around a bit but i do have a little micro obsession with this chapter in the conspiracy story And I was pretty lucky to have Ken actually contact me I get a lot of people contacting me to be on the higher side these days, and not all of them are of such quality. So it was a real pleasure to do it! I always get a charge when I feel like I'm helping a new voice get out there and a voice that I think knows their stuff. And this was sort-of like getting insight from a wise grandpa... Is that weird to say? I mean in the best possible ways

1:06:39 All due respect. But people, how cool of our guest to offer up his book to you guys for free! It has been quite a while since we had an offer like that and I think it is so worth it. It's very well written and goes much deeper than we could in just this two short hours of conversation Do email him at explodedsteamship at gmail dot com. It is an easy one to remember I know a lot of you are driving right now, working right now. You can't write this down but just remember explodedsteamship at gmail dot com Let's make Ken feel like his work and insight is appreciated It would definitely mean a lot to me Not that you should have homework for listening but... ya know

1:07:27 As you know, there's always a second hour to a THC episode. In this particular one we talked about many more threads of the Titanic disaster that strengthened the case for foul play We talked about Marconi's role during the Titanic disaster and his later role in investigating UFOs for Mussolini and how these things might be related Ken also dropped some not so subtle hints that oil might not be what we're told it is and that there are some conspiratorial threads to the TWA Flight 800 crash. We also got into who the guilty parties really are here, and how the Jesuits might be connected

1:08:06 as well as, of course, JPMorgan and Rockefeller. We got into Ken's thoughts on the Federal Reserve angle Of course you can't talk about the Titanic conspiracy without bringing up the Federal Reserve angle I think both Ken's angle on how this worked for the oil industry And the Federal Reserve narrative can work but that Titanic is obviously much more closely associated with energy and those motives that Ken presents The Federal Reserve is obviously just as big of a deal, but it's sort of a disjointed motive. But these plans of the elite are often very layered why should this be any different? We then got off the beaten path a bit and talked about what Ken knows about the secret space program and UFO tech Why the global warming narrative has been so aggressive when it does seem to contradict the fuel selling agenda of the elite

1:08:59 And last but not least, the idea of a global cash reset and how likely that might be. So fun stuff today! This closes out the month of March... The month of my birth And I think i'd give it pretty high marks. Cosima Danneritzer, the lightbulb conspiracy planned obsolescence good to get a female voice on here It can be a bit of a boys club I hear the critics also the critics that don't have enough black voices either and that might be true but for a decent amount of time I didn't even know what race a guest is beforehand and London Honor doesn't answer my emails anymore maybe its the weed thing anyway obviously I want this show to be for everyone

1:09:41 So don't worry so much about that stuff. But show number two we have Brian Forrester I felt like this was a great one the paracas elongated skulls and other weird stuff Brian's answers were way shorter than usual guests sometimes i ask only five or six questions in a two-hour show but this is why write six pages of notes when I usually only need three We got through a lot of material and, I think that's a beautiful thing It was a fun one. Pretty rapid fire. Adam Kokesh, Libertarianism Self-Government and Dissolving the State? This one got some attention

1:10:18 Some thinking that I'm right, some people think Adam's right. But I think the fact that we can disagree and still be cool was actually a rare thing to see in 2017 in a political discussion People like to hear our guests challenged little bit which I never do feel super comfortable with but it has been noted guys, I promise We grow and we evolve, right? So the disagreement aspect might have been interesting to some, and I got a lot of emails saying oh well you need to read this literature about libertarianism or you need to get this guy on to better explain it. Or maybe i can come on and talk about my group's version of libertarianism? And I feel ya! I know that there are a lot of opinions out there in ways to look at it but one thing that does sometimes bother me is when people think that

1:11:06 I couldn't just possibly have a different opinion. It's that i haven't read about it enough or I haven't gotten the right person's perspective." Yes, that's true sometimes but other times...it's not that a person doesn't see the light! It's that they just disagree. It's not always about convincing people But besides that, I really want to be done with politics and shows about anything related to the left-right spectrum or some brand of political ideology. I'm a little fatigued. I think i'd rather talk about religion at this point and I can't believe I'm saying that but...I do think that that point was kind of proven with the next guest who was Michael Joseph dissecting elite belief systems and their influence

1:11:52 I think this was the standout of the month besides tonight's show, which i also think is right up there as new useful and unique. Some people did get really mad at me about that episode how can you say the elite are good? And i did not say that! It's not really even about that come on... You know me it's just about maybe we don't know everything We hear people talk about life as a stage and we're characters in a play, and this idea that we chose this experience before we came here. And if that's true it's true for everyone isn't it? People who play villains in a play regardless of how real it seems aren't bad people are they?

1:12:35 It's not an introductory idea and it's definitely a controversial one. And maybe it's just some bullshit that they believe, but even so if that's the case I want to know about it! I want to consider it and I think we should be open to at least seeing every angle without a knee-jerk emotional response. That is the higher side way And it's really my safety net. It's my escape hatch, because I know that I can't be positive that everything and anything a guest says is right or true...I can't! There's no way. So I find voices that I think are entertaining of course and have varying degrees of merit—and merit for various reasons that aren't always on the surface

1:13:19 Sometimes I let people ramble on for a long, long time just because I want them to say one or two specific things. Whatever! But I just try to steer these voices to present their best self—their best case and...I might tell you what degree I like a particular perspective but I don't try to claim to be an authority And listeners are always urged to make up their own mind and often hear conflicting perspectives That's fine There isn't a lot of debate on THC, of course. But that's how I rectify that is by getting conflicting voices to make their own cases and then you can listen to both shows and see where you lie. So when people question my credibility it's like credibility on what? I am not telling you what to think!