Wednesday, 2 April 2025

Juan Ayala | Occultis Mundi, Homunculus History, & The Rooster Ritual of the Liber Vaccae

A deep dive into the forbidden history of artificial life reveals a hidden thread connecting 9th-century Arabic grimoires to modern synthetic embryos and digital doppelgangers.

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Juan Ayala | Occultis Mundi, Homunculus History, & The Rooster Ritual of the Liber Vaccae cover

About this episode

Juan Ayala of the Juan on Juan podcast joins Greg Carlwood to expose the alchemical obsession with the homunculus, a miniature artificial human birthed through forbidden rituals. From 9th-century Arabic grimoires like the Liber Vaccae to modern synthetic embryo breakthroughs, the elite pursuit of creating life remains a consistent effort to usurp the role of the Creator. This investigation links ancient Daoist semen retention practices to the digital doppelgangers currently being modeled by the insurance industry.

Historical accounts reveal Count Johan Ferdinand von Kufstein allegedly kept ten prophetic homunculi in glass jars, while 18th-century Freemasons encoded these biological secrets into the geometry of cathedrals. The discussion connects the occult interests of Charles Babbage and Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz to the current trajectory of artificial intelligence and the uncanny valley of AI art. Specific rituals involving white roosters, fish eyes, and black cats are detailed as methods for piercing the veil to see spiritual beings, alongside the 1946 Babylon Working ritual performed by Jack Parsons and L. Ron Hubbard.

Juan Ayala shares his research from the Occultist Monday Journal and the Church of Cage podcast, blending alchemical history with pop culture analysis of Super Mario 64 and Sonic the Hedgehog. The conversation touches on the dark legacy of Jeffrey Epstein’s Zorro Ranch and the apocalyptic symbolism of Marjorie Cameron’s Wormwood Star. Greg Carlwood concludes with a look at the brazen heads of Pope Sylvester II and the strange cryptids of Florida known as Squallies.


CHAPTER 01 / 24 Discussion

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higher side chats· plus membership· patreon· rss link· spotify· podcast archive

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CHAPTER 02 / 24 Discussion

Juan on Juan, Homunculus Hunter and Occultist Monday Journal

Greg Carlwood introduces guest Juan from the Juan on Juan podcast, an expert on the history of the homunculus. The discussion frames the elite's obsession with creating artificial life as a warped attempt to attain the Creator's power. Juan describes his background as a researcher and author of the Occultist Monday Journal, which explores alchemical rituals and pop culture references to miniature men.

juan on juan· homunculus· occultist monday journal· greg carlwood· esoteric· alchemy

02:49 Serenity Now, Hiresight Chatters. From the Sunshine State I'm Greg Carlwood and it can be challenging to properly unpack exactly what it is that motivates the puppet masters of the power pyramid perform the activities they do because at first it might seem like they're driven by greed ego or even just disdain for humanity but as we learn more about their odd behaviors and what seems to be strange spiritual beliefs makes one wonder if the motivation might be something a bit more esoteric Factor in the fallen angel story, the bloodline tracking obsession and seemingly sudden emergence of a royal network across the world and it starts to track that maybe this capstone cabal is most motivated by hatred for the creator, creation and beings it was built for.

03:31 Because they intentionally poison the air water and land detoxify living food and promote dead factory made replacements, create laws against indians that facilitate direct spiritual experience they obsess over genetics in all three men under the hood. And anything truly spiritual seems to be suppressed in exchange for dull, meaningless digital environments. It really seems like if they can't jailbreak out of this experimental sandbox they'll work to destroy every part of it they can and create artificial replacements for anything left including life itself Well from what i've heard today's guest one of the one on one podcast tends to share this perspective and is like his curiosity fuel what is now an expertise in a major aspect of the hidden quest to attain some warped version of the creators power and make life itself in the form of the hermonculous.

04:23 He has not only studied the history, writings, rituals and pop culture references of this bizarre topic but he's also produced four issues of The Occultist Monday Journal with tons of homunculus related information and stories throughout. Come on how could this not be a good time? The Homunculus Hunter! An Occultist Monday author! The Chosen One himself! Welcome to THC man how the hell are ya?! Checked off my bucket list, Greg. One of those intros that I've been listening to for the your podcast is one of the ones that influenced mine. So I've been listening to you for at least six years which is how long I've been podcasting so that was great dude love it. Wow damn well thank you for that It is a pleasure! I appreciate you sending me out the four issues of The Journal and your comic book The Chosen One. I really liked the wordplay and it seems very well designed

CHAPTER 03 / 24 Discussion

Daoist Alchemical Embryo and the History of Semen Retention

The concept of creating life through alchemy dates back to Daoist monks around 4500 BCE who practiced semen retention to birth a "golden little man." This alchemical embryo was believed to be a spiritual cheat code that allowed a practitioner to avoid reincarnation after death. While the term homunculus was later coined by Paracelsus in the 16th century, the underlying goal of emulating God remains a consistent theme throughout history.

daoism· 4500 bce· semen retention· alchemical embryo· reincarnation· magnum opus

05:13 i don't know how successful the her monkey less mission has been but it seems like the mindset is always been there and you can see this elite obsession with creating life from alchemy in the harmonica idea to now cloning and a. It all seems to sort of be driven by the same motivation what would i lay down the intro their bed, mission to obtain the creative power of God or at least corrupt the creation as a plan B. Is that how you see it? Yeah, and it's a multifaceted topic I did a collaboration with Mind Unveiled and we worked on a documentary...I was just a consultant and it turns out there is

05:57 It's a 10 and 1⁄2 hour documentary on just homunculus. So it's, again the topic goes very deep but essentially you nailed it on the head. It's about the emulation of God which some people can see as blasphemous Some people see it as a knockoff like you can't create the perfect thing But it depends who you ask Greg on these alchemists like hey we achieved the magnum opus or is it just a cheap copy if you will? Yeah yeah it's hard to know and so as the last living among you all just has you put it. Where do u start the story of this where we find the earliest use of the term or even just the idea of creating life using human sperm and something else sometimes even horse manure

06:45 So the actual term homunculus, which means miniature man or little man was coined by Philippus Heriolustio Frassus von Bassis von Hohenheim Paracelsus in the 16th century. So technically the word homunculus was born no pun intended in the 16th century Now how I said before we knew alchemy there were versions of it right? There were practices that were similar to it but I've connected the dots as much as I could and I'll be honest i can't prove to you that the home is real there some people who claim as late as the eighties of creating one and.

07:23 There's tons of stories about it, there is literature on it. And really if you come to think about any major world religion its just stories and writing so we gotta take for what it is and the furthest back I've been able to find this concept was in this Daoist sort of religion I think it was 4500 BCE where there were these monks I've dubbed it the alchemical embryo, where these monks they realize like hey seed is can create life right you mate with a woman. You can create a person now what happens if i pour this seat all on myself and I keep it within myself and I meditate on that so they would meditate for 100 days

08:09 And there's drawings of this, there are actual depictions of this where after a hundred days they were able to... They believed in this thing called The Way which is like a sort-of force that permeates and everything. You know we see this idea over and over again throughout history Star Wars and all these things. After 100 days they were able to reverse this energy in on itself so they're able to turn it around in on themselves and they would meditate through semen retention because its all surrounded by semen They believe that after 100 days, if you did it correctly there would be either through the solar plex or crown chakra. There's various depictions of it You would birth this golden little man Now was it metaphorical? Was it literal I don't know but the purpose of this golden little man was that a part of you now exists in this reality therefore when your body passes on you do not have to reincarnate

09:08 So they found it as a sort of cheat code to not have to reincarnate back in this realm. But that's as far back as 45, 3600 BC somewhere around there a long time ago. Yeah well back then they didn't have a lot to wonder about and I would imagine creation semen the orgasm were probably top of the list of like what is that about but it does kind of Depend on what you think this reality is like the easy dismissal to say well it doesn't conform to biology u put semen in with horse manure your not gonna get a little man although i do think there's been success because i've seen the pillsbury doughboy and we know that that's a prime example of a modern monkey list but be that as it may,

CHAPTER 04 / 24 Discussion

Artificial Intelligence, Charles Babbage, and Occult Origins of Computing

Modern artificial intelligence is presented as a digital successor to the alchemical homunculus, serving as a vessel for spirit or consciousness. Historical figures like Charles Babbage and Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz are linked to occult interests, with Babbage allegedly attempting to summon demons. The clumsy nature of current AI models like ChatGPT is compared to the imperfect creations of Frankenstein or the Jewish Golem.

artificial intelligence· charles babbage· john dee· binary code· frankenstein· golem

09:57 When you think about the soul and a human body just being a vessel for consciousness, for a fractal of the Godhead let's say. Then what you're really talking about is can there be a cultivated vessel that is a non-traditional form of that that's imbued with spirit? So if you don't believe in spirit and you're just primarily looking at biology yeah you could say well these pieces don't fit What i do think there's another way to look at it and that way is closer to how the elite view things anyway when i talk to people about.

10:33 AI even, they're saying well maybe this is adjacent to the homunculus. You might say the same because it's in a journal that you've written It's a vessel if you can create a complex enough vessel for spirit I mean that is a homunculus or at least artificial life its definitely in the ballpark right? Oh 100% and I think that even if you look at the origins of The computer I've talked about this Charles Babbage, one of the fathers of modern day computers. He was trying to summon the devil I believe he did succeed. I have evidence of that but a point being that these guys were involved in the occult now The conspiracy is Greg like we're in this conspiracal sort of thing where is the homunculus real?

11:20 Is magic real? Is the occult real? Are spirits real, are demons real. Can you control them? Can you invoke them into vessels and things of that nature right so it's all open for interpretation but I think that even if you look at the Enochian tablets and John Diener or Kelly when they were doing their workings is very similar to a computer chip And maybe perhaps, right? You have daemons which are part of computer programs that work in the background. Interesting name for that and labeness which is another guy who kind of sort of contributed to binary code he was going around Europe looking for stories of transmutations alchemical transmutations and also obsessed with Descartes and a whole bunch of other people and there are a lot

12:07 industries, I guess. At least the porcelain industry was created by mistake because it was a guy actually trying to create the Philosopher's Stone and he ended up creating this whole thing which essentially is the golden throne we sit on. Also gelato was created by an alchemist as well, Medici Alchemists so there are a lot of things that we use today even paracelsus, anesthesia, penicillin. Toxicology he's the father of toxicology but yeah I think that AI this creation of artificial life or what seems to be life because if you really sit down and talk to some of this chat GPT it's kind of dumb but that's also another

12:47 aspect of, right? The Frankenstein. He's kind of dumb he's kinda clumsy the golem is kinda clumsy it's not perfect you can't speak so again your trying to emulate God but your not doing a very good job at it and that why I said it depends on who you ask us for some them that was it that was the pinnacle wow this is crazy! But then for others there like your proud of that Yeah and we're fifteen minutes in i'm already going off the outline but i didn't plan to bring up gaming to you though if i do a dive on your youtube channel clearly you are gamer you do stream i can remember the last time i had a guest that stream gaming maybe it hasn't ever happened. But an occultist monday volume two u also talk a little bit about that and this term,

CHAPTER 05 / 24 Discussion

Arquitectura Imaginalis, Mind Palaces, and Masonic Cathedral Symbolism

The concept of Arquitectura Imaginalis explores the intermediary world between reality and imagination where architecture acts as a magical talisman. Historical architects and Masons utilized specific geometrical proportions in cathedrals to elevate consciousness or encode alchemical secrets in plain sight. These structures were sometimes referred to as homunculi because they were birthed from a mental model into physical reality.

arquitectura imaginalis· mind palace· freemasonry· john dee· cathedrals· sacred geometry

13:35 architecture imagine alice or something adjacent to pythagorean palaces the mind palace idea. What you do a pretty good breakdown of mathematics and cartesian coordinate systems which served as the bridge between euclidean geometry and algebra, add it is most commonly used in computer systems This is kind of in the mix because it's talking about creating artificial worlds which as you know they've gotten better and better throughout our lifetime. And i've done interviews where you really start to establish that, they had these kind of spiritual esoteric leanings from the ground up they weren't just computer nerds that's not the exact right archetype even now you'll have the main quotes people use like AI is summoning an alien god

14:28 Or worshiping at the altar of an alien god these gordy rose musk quotes. There's not a lot to go on there but you know the main people in these industries will slip, what comments like that and it goes back to beginning on top of the behavior is and data collection i guess for lack of better term but In the beginning these cybernetics guys they were putting people in these artificial environments like rats and a maze and actually studying behavioral patterns after fifty years of doing that i think they've got some data. But talk to us a little bit more about that cuz it does come up in, the occultist monday volume two just how the people involved in these artificial worlds have the same mindset as those who really want to create artificial life

15:17 Greg you're firing me up man. These are topics that I'm very passionate about. Arquitectura imaginalis was this term i coined up because of the mundus imaginalis which is a Henry Corbin concept where essentially it's the world that exists between the real and the imagination and the way that he puts it, it's like this middle intermediary thing that's... It is real and it's not and he talked about That what john d and r Kelly were doing these things that they were experiencing where angels come from essentially is right now we think of angels angles, certain angles invoke certain angels when you see this through architecture in architecture is very important because the. Architect as magician comes up and even called buildings back then there homunculi because the way that they would come up with these buildings was it wasn't idea

16:10 and gets impregnated into your mind, you make a model of it. A miniature version of that building and then you birth it into reality so they literally called their buildings homunculi, homonculus And so this imaginal world, he talked about John D. Roehli and that these things were gushing forth from the consciousness to this autonomous world that exists on its own and things are sometimes able to come through and bleed through if you will. The Pythagorean Palace idea I was reading on John Dee and catroptics, this concept of bending light and turning your soul into a mirror essentially to manipulate the stellar rays. And this is involved in alchemy when it comes to sacrifice and the occult in general that everything emanates a light source metaphysically

17:06 the way our lights interact is an alchemical reaction, right? And then you're able to snuff out the light of other things such as animals for sacrifice and then you're able to take that energy and repurpose it for X Y Z. Use your imagination. And Pythagorean Palaces was this book that I stumbled across George Hersey where he came up with this concept of again these Buildings being talismans of sorts that they were built to a certain geometrical proportion in order to elevate the consciousness of the people within. Who does that? Masons do that. Secret societies do that, the cathedrals I mean look at them they are what i heard the other day was music and stone very beautiful architecture what were they used for if you follow Falconelli's mystery of the cathedrals well some of them have the secrets of the philosopher stone the steps to take to create the philosopher stone

18:02 Other people suggest, oh they're used to invoke certain religious experiences. The way that the energy resonates inside of it, the music and the light, the way it comes in through the glass that was usually alchemically made through these secret processes? Was it too indoctrinate the lower class almost like an early Mic Ultra sort of thing where the peasant people couldn't read emblems on the wall. They don't know what they were looking at, if they could have been looking at the secrets to reality itself which is what alchemy essentially holds according to some. They couldn't interpret it why? Because they weren't initiated but the people who built it put in plain sight right? They put out here for people to pick up on and so this concept of maybe perhaps because you can get into the whole mind palace idea

CHAPTER 06 / 24 Discussion

Mnemonic Techniques and the Homunculus as a Memory Device

The homunculus may serve as a symbolic mnemonic device used in the art of memory to store complex information. Because the human brain recalls exaggerated or radical images more easily, bizarre alchemical recipes involving animal carcasses and specific rituals were used to anchor data. This technique allowed practitioners in the oral tradition to recall vast amounts of information by walking through a mental "mind palace."

mnemonics· memory palace· francis yates· oral tradition· symbolism· alchemy

18:57 It's a mnemonic technique, it's a memory technique where you create this building within your mind and you implant in every single different room or aspect of this mind palace a different piece of information. And when you're trying to do memory recollection, you're supposed to walk through this building and when you go into these rooms, you train yourself to recall that information you put in said room. Now I think this relates the homunculus because This could all be symbolic, Greg. Like I still don't understand this. I'm going to be 100% with you. I've put hours and hours into alchemy and the homunculus and all these things And I feel like I know less than when I first started Because these topics have many many layers of interpretation One of them could be symbolic, a hundred percent symbolic

19:45 But the problem is that the uninitiated who are looking at these texts and looking at these things, they're going to follow these steps and procedures at face value. So the homunculus as a mnemonic device because when you are trying to remember a piece of information, the more radical and the more exaggerated an idea is, the easier it is to remember This is why we have stories throughout all of history. I think this is why the Bible has stories, any mythology has plenty of stories of gods doing various things you have the same god right Loki in a banquet or and a party with XYZ he did this crazy thing Zeus turning into a goose so whatever or swan or something like that just going at it with everybody It's very easy to remember So when were talking about people back then who are trying to pass things on orally

20:33 with the oral tradition, it was a lot easier to recall. So when I think of the homunculus and this crazy idea of artificially creating this little man in a jar will take the recipe of that and assign a memory or a piece of information. And the way that these techniques and procedures are broken down on how to create a homunculus you know you start off by Beating the cow carcass with the largest dog penis you can find. That's a very vivid image that you put in your brain I could associate a lot of things with that and then when I go to recall that information, I just think of a cow carcass being beat To a pulp by a dog penis and again, that's a translation of certain books

21:17 Yes, I plan to get there. There's some weird ones. Oh definitely is weird but yes the concept of imaginal architecture the art of memory Francis Yates talks about this a lot about unlocking powers from memory i mean memory was back then looked at as witchcraft if you could remember things right? You could recall things that was a superpower back then yeah a lot of great points and if we're talking remade sins are masons and creating architecture and then creating artificial digital worlds. And gaming i don't know how deep you might look into this but most people have at least heard of the super mario 64 free masonic breakdown, are you familiar with all a little bit also sonic the hedgehog to i think what the white gloves and whatnot

CHAPTER 07 / 24 Discussion

Super Mario 64, Sonic the Hedgehog, and Masonic Video Game Symbolism

Video games like Super Mario 64 are analyzed for their dense inclusion of Freemasonic and esoteric symbolism, such as checkerboard floors and pentacle coins. Mario's red cap and winged hat are linked to the god Mercury, while his journey is interpreted by some as a traversal of the Kabbalistic Tree of Life. The ubiquity of these symbols in popular media suggests an intentional effort to embed occult themes in digital environments.

super mario 64· freemasonry· sonic the hedgehog· tree of life· symbolism· mercury

22:08 Interesting because yeah mario has white gloves but with super mario 6464 is 32 twice and it starts in a may sonic hall at the checkerboard floor there's the sun disk on the ground. And then you collect the coins, which are pentacles from the tarot. They are gold coins with a Pentagram star on them and then, you know, the breakdown goes that you can see mirror images of like the tower of Babel and the fact that you enter into other worlds by jumping through portals that are paintings it's pretty gnarly there is an owl in the game who takes you somewhere also

22:53 When you do fly the wings are on your back the wings are on the hat well that's invoking mercury so there is a lot of weird symbolism. Red cap yeah the red cap as well it's really fun if u got the time go down to breakdown because, there's even people who have taken the tree of life in the separate and said that Each world actually in the game has qualities and some people will break it all the way down to say you are going through the tree of life, through a Masonic Hall as Mario. And who knows? There's also pyramid you climb an Egyptian level in the capstone of the pyramid is elevated its straight off the dollar bill there's all kinds of wild examples and you know that whole mushroom makes you big thing and who does Mario battle but reptilian royalty yeah

23:44 It's gnarly, but you start to think why are things popular? Why does anything get popular? Why does Mario have such a ubiquitous association with gaming and Sonic not as much. You know it's there but you know, there's a lot of practical things you could lean on. But at the same time it's also like how funny that something that invokes a lot of Freemasonic esoteric symbolism also rises to the top of the whole field? Just a coincidence I'm sure right You mentioned something earlier about the collection of information which is very interesting We all have a digital footprint nowadays people are going to be able to find your information one way or another and

CHAPTER 08 / 24 Discussion

Digital Doppelgangers and Predictive Analytics in the Insurance Industry

A parallel digital simulation reportedly tracks individual data to create doppelgangers used for predictive modeling. The insurance industry allegedly utilizes these analytics to forecast personal illnesses and determine coverage eligibility before health issues manifest. This digital homunculus represents a modern application of the law of correspondence and sympathetic magic through big data.

digital footprint· simulation theory· nick hinton· predictive analytics· insurance· doppelganger

24:30 I believe that to mix this in with virtual reality or simulation theory or whatever, I forget the name of the place but actually Nick Hinton was the one who put me on to this. Shout out to him! There is this program they're running where they are running a simulation in parallel with our reality it's in Boston or something I could be butchering this point being that their collecting your information now This ties into the pythagorean palace memory palace and all these other things. Where are they taking your information in creating this doppelganger of you within this reality this other thing where they run tabloids, they're on world events there are all these different things who is to say that

25:10 Whatever happens to your digital homunculus in there is not happening to the real thing out here because you know, the law of correspondence and all that sympathetic magic. We know that's a whole thing and I've heard from someone who was in the insurance industry allegedly they can predict when your next illness will come. And then that's how they're able to evaluate you if you're a good candidate to get coverage or not, or when they ring you up like hey it's your yearly checkup because they're predicting that something might happen to you again from these analytics perhaps that they are getting behind the scenes from these simulations that they're running? Yeah I mean i don't doubt if the technology exists the insurance industry is using it

CHAPTER 09 / 24 Discussion

Liber Vacui, 9th Century Arabic Grimoires and Forbidden Rituals

The Liber Vacui is a 9th-century Arabic grimoire containing instructions for magical operations, including weather control and the creation of rational animals. Scholars like Lynn Thorndike historically refused to translate portions of the text due to its perceived blasphemy, while David Pingree labeled it a demonic manual. Modern AI tools are now being used to translate these fragmented manuscripts that were previously hidden within medical texts.

liber vacui· grimoire· lynn thorndike· david pingree· natural magic· translation

25:58 So let's talk about some of the writings. There's this grimoire I learned about from your journal, Lieber Vacui vacua making Vacay, it's how it's pronounced? Okay. Well you write no you can't find this on audible or Kindle because the original and very fragmented Arabic texts only exist in a handful of translations the most popular one is the Latin one well you took it a step further and use chat GTP to do some translations that you reproduced in the journal and the rituals are quite detailed and creepy Can you give the people a little bit about what it describes? I wrote down page 45 because apparently it gets pretty wild with the rooster. Do you remember the details on the requests with the rooster? You're going to have to refresh my memory, Greg. So we ended up doing was when we were working, it took six months to produce this documentary that I did with Mind Unveiled

26:56 And the way I can gauge the esoteric or the occult concepts, I love when something doesn't exist on an audio book or on YouTube. That's when I want to get to it. I want to dig away but that comes with its obstacles right because you're going back to the source material now we have the technology To be able to take old manuscripts OCR the text extract the text And then translate it with various language model so we're kinda using the dark arts of the elites by using the AI but were doing it to uncover knowledge and i was able to find a copy or excerpts of the librivate k. Within a medical text from the,

27:36 It was like 1300s, 1400s. And the reason for that being was because they would hide these texts right? These monks that were studying these works which they were studying it under the supervision of the church but to them again it was natural magic. It was Christian magic because hey God wouldn't have put this stuff on earth if he didn't want us to use it we just so happen a mix A plus B and get C. It's all natural as long as we're not using any astral or demonic influence from above to influence the result, it's game because it's natural. It comes from something that God already made so this Lieberweck is from the 9th century and it consists of two parts as a major and minor part and its got various experiments in

28:26 you know, how to become impervious to pain. How to see demons? How to see spirits? The rooster gonna have to remind me about the rooster. Oh I got it right here! How to drive people insane. How to control the weather. How to draw in the moon various magical operations was which essentially that's what a grimoire is. A grimoire is and that's where the word grammar comes from It's an instructional book on spells using grammar rights written down And this particular book has sections on how to create rational and irrational animals. And when you look at it, again this predates alchemy You look at it and go sounds a lot like your artificially creating an entity or something. And various scholars have looked that this particular work Lynn Thorndike which is the guy who wrote about the esoteric and wrote encyclopedias about him

29:26 He actually refused to translate various parts of this text simply because, I forgot the exact word but essentially he was a religious man and he said this is too blasphemous for me to even translate it. So you have these gatekeepers of knowledge who are refusing... Who are YOU? To determine if it's too harsh for people to intake But again, that comes with its risk how I said earlier because people are gonna read these texts and they're probably gonna do whatever they did to the rooster. It feels like what the eyes or something of the rooster Yeah Oh, i'm gonna read it So we have these guys like Lynn Thorndyke who were kind of occulting the occulted knowledge and not giving it all away And then you had other guys David Pingree who talked about

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Ritual Instructions for Seeing Spiritual Beings Using a Rooster

A specific ritual from the Liber Vacui describes a bizarre process involving a white rooster and the eyes of a fish called albutane to grant the ability to see spiritual beings. The procedure requires feeding the rooster fish eyes over three days, followed by decapitation and feeding the remains to a black wildcat. The resulting bile and blood are used to create a substance that allegedly reveals spirits during their ascension and descent.

ritual· spiritual beings· rooster· fish eyes· black wildcat· grimoire

30:09 deliver a k being the most demonic book he's ever read any actually believe that the humongous was an artificial demon you were creating. Yeah thats what all of the tech people out of this spiritual technology people are worried about or they think that's the end goal is they couldn't make their monkey less out of, materials that available so there making and i want but it reminds me of your quote in one of the volumes about the fact that laws over cloning exist not because it's impossible, but because it's very possible and can be done. So then you need a law and that's why I think a lot of these books are suppressed when you read something like what I'm about to read its kind of boilerplate like we've heard this kind of language and these kinds of instructions before if we've ever looked at grimoires or rituals

31:00 And you're like, how could this even work? And it's just like I hate the simulation analogy because it's so digitized and rooted in our times. I like more like God sandbox or something but at the sip this is a realm of creation and everything's energy then there might be ways to use the energy recycle it in weird ways break the code and create other things or have other experiences within the game that aren't exactly cheat codes exactly they are like cheat codes to use gaming analogies but this is a weird one so there are many things that you.

31:39 extracted from this and i agree with you i love it happens a lot of magic when things are hidden or segmented to a certain language, like man i just wanna read these books that no english speaker has ever read because they've never been in english we now have the power an afternoon to do that and you did here but. This is just weird one so When you want to see spiritual beans and they are from the higher worlds in their ascension and descent in there for circumstances figures and clothing. And nothing little or much is hidden from you all u must do is take a white rooster having around chest concave in the middle like a bowl, go with it to a place where

32:24 The barking of a dog or the voice of a raven cannot be heard and place it there. Pay attention to the fish called albutane which is famous and well known, extract its white eyes while it's alive and place them in water when the rooster then suffers for hunger take it and feed at the two eyes of the fish And do this with three fish. For when the third day comes, and it has eaten two eyes look at it and you will see it grow and magnify and its eyes will become inflamed Do not let this stop until three days have passed for it will spit out a piece of blood from its mouth take that

33:05 And then the cap of date the rooster at your chosen time and pay attention to a very black wildcat and feed it that rooster. When is he not decapitate it then take its blood and spiel and dry each separately then make alcohol first with the blood, and secondly with the bile for you will see all the spiritual beings at once that is suddenly at the time of their ascension and descent, in the day and in the night. And at all hours." How bizarre is that? I mean how many times do you have to fuck it up before you get it right?! You know this is not this guy's first rodeo! Yeah exactly and that's the fascinating part Greg where it's like... Is this real?? Is this possible???

CHAPTER 11 / 24 Discussion

Human Cloning Laws and the Ethics of Gene Editing

The legal ban on human cloning is discussed as evidence that the technology is viable and potentially already in use off the books. While public milestones like Dolly the Sheep and the Raelian movement's "Eve" made headlines, current scientists use synthetic embryos to bypass 14-day experimentation limits. These advancements raise philosophical questions regarding the soul and legal status of artificially grown entities.

cloning· gene editing· dolly the sheep· bioethics· synthetic embryos· legislation

33:52 I've never done that. So, i can't tell you if that is real or not but the fact that... You mentioned the cloning What interests me most about the homunculus and what draws people in Not only is it the morbid curiosity of people to hear about the darker aspects of reality Or the darker side of the occult which some people call the homunculus But recently saw this article where there was this scientist who was I believe, taken to prison because he was conducting and did something with gene editing of babies. Now, I don't know what that means what he was doing right? I'm not initiated in that whole thing. You know trust the seance if you will but that it's more of a reality today

34:38 than it has ever been, right? Clones in the pop culture. People always talk about oh so and so was a clone Kanye West is a clone now or Gucci Mane is a clone now because he's skinny or whatever it is like why would you ban cloning and it goes back as early in the early 2000 where they were talking about Dolly The Sheep Also the rail is a movement where they said that they had cloned a little girl named Eve you know, you have all these concepts of if that's what they're putting out and What I mean by if that's what day the VEI is right this reptilian elite let some people like to talk about well actually think that Occam's razor would say that there are actually homunculus and we can talk about that later because all these weird

35:23 Sort of rituals and procedures you have to do, and it's got to be very specific right? How would you know that that cat is gonna come Right when you know You've done the operation three times And that's why I think it's also symbolic on top of that or how Manly P. Hall talks about when you're doing alchemy working on seven different dimensions at the same time so one of them is the physical manipulation of reality in real-time and if you think about it right to keep on the video game analogies and the fact that Grand Theft Auto 6 is going to be coming out here soon and it's based in Florida. So you essentially have this microcosm of a macrocosm. We know Florida's crazy, Miami is crazy the Florida man is this weird archetype that exists right because people can't handle the energy what does that game going to do to our reality? Right but Grand Theft Auto I remember doing the cheat codes and it was very elaborate cheat codes where he had to do the buttons over and over again in a certain pattern and a certain geometric format yeah

36:24 Patterns that aren't exactly natural to the game. That's exactly what I'm saying with this stuff, you're messing with patterns and movements and energies and stacking them in a way that is not something that you're going to arrive at by accident. You have to know exactly that too. You have to know it certainly wild so with the cloning thing let me just run through some of the highlights because you have a lot of stuff in here about Cloning events that have happened since dolly the sheep which was like mid nineties i guess. In nineteen ninety eight advanced cell technology announced that they created a human cow embryo and then destroyed it after growing at four twelve days,

CHAPTER 12 / 24 Discussion

Advanced Cell Technology and Recent Synthetic Embryo Breakthroughs

Chronological milestones in cloning include the 1998 creation of a human-cow embryo and the 2018 birth of cloned macaques named Zong Zong and Hua Hua. In 2023, researchers created synthetic human embryos without using eggs or sperm, effectively navigating around existing bioethical legislation. The director of bioethics at Stanford, David Magnus, shares a surname with the legendary alchemist Albertus Magnus, who reportedly created a speaking homunculus.

advanced cell technology· zong zong· synthetic embryo· david magnus· stanford· bioethics

37:08 Then in 2002 clone aid claimed a baby clone named eve was born and cloning it has ties to the ufo religion really is on which believes we cannot achieve immortality without calling you mentioned that one. In twenty eighteen, it was announced that primates were successfully clown using somatic cell nuclear transfer resulting in the birth of two live female crab eating macaques named zong zong and who are In 2021, scientists created quote living entities in a lab that resemble human embryos. Again in 2023, a synthetic human embryo was created without using eggs or sperm because of this they are bypassing the current legislation regarding lab grown entities

37:58 The stanford center for biomedical ethics director is ironically named david magnus according to legend alberto magnus employed natural magic and astrology creator her monkey list that could speak and serve as his assistant so yes it is interesting. that someone who is in a position to be the director of ethics in this very stuff would share the same surname as somebody. Who's in there monkey less history, But these other examples are so strange we hear about little things like this bubbling up in the fact that it can be done you know humans will do it and off the books kind of way. What is last two examples the twenty twenty one scientist created living entities in a lab that resemble human embryos and then twenty twenty three, a synthetic human embryo created without using eggs or sperm

38:51 Do you know any more about this? Like what did they use that and how is this even possible. Your guess is as good as mine, but the way I understand it is right the bioethics which is that Magnus guy is the head of bioethics at a big university or something. The law is that after 14 days if you're doing anything with embryos with human embryos they must be destroyed after 14 days You're supposed to halt and that's So these guys are like, hey how are we going to continue? How are we gonna continue our experimentation if after 14 days we have to take it out and dispose of it. Well Greg you don't think that somebody I mean there's movies about this where they hide in the back room right was that movie splice with the alien girl where she keeps her she hides her in the back You don't think anyone went past the fourteen days so In order to bypass legislation and laws They're like well

39:49 This is for human embryos. This one here is a synthetic copy of that human one, what are the laws for this? We're like well we're in this gray area now so technically if you were to bring a person full term through that which we know they're growing animals through synthetic matrixes The recent was a lamb that they created or goat or something like that They grew it an artificial matrix A womb If you grow somebody who came from an artificial embryo Hypothetically speaking, is that person a real human being? Do they have a soul? What is the soul you know do they have a consciousness. Do they pay taxes? Who do they have to report too and these are questions that need answers and I mean technology has advanced so far that we're getting there and I think Greg maybe if the homunculus isn't fake and gay how some people think which again I can be open to that idea maybe these alchemists once or twice

40:51 Had created the specific conditions to be able to grow something at least we can't act like we have all the answers and if history has been tainted how a lot of people believe what's been left out. Right, right. And the synthetic embryos, synthetic people does obviously bring up a lot of weird legal questions and PCs and yeah I mean clearly this is why Trump wants to get rid of natural born citizenship because he doesn't want to deal with these questions Yeah 100% probably right but you know the whole idea is something natural or not like

41:31 Yeah, there's biological processes that are natural and you can come up with other processes. But part of me thinks at like a higher level if it's in the sandbox it is God's creation I'm not sure how much God actually cares if you use something in here In a different kind of way because there's nothing from outside the system It can't exist You know its catch 22 So yeah the elite definitely seem motivated to disrupt the order and stuff and some people say that's when you get a flood like why would god if god is a good loving creature why we flood out the whole system in kill everybody well it was all corrupted he's like what we gotta start over but then you just think wall.

CHAPTER 13 / 24 Discussion

Nephilim, Fallen Angels, and the Parasitic Origins of Alchemy

Alchemy is historically linked to the Nephilim or fallen angels who allegedly taught metallurgy and herbology to humanity as a failsafe against their own destruction. Some interpretations suggest these entities were interdimensional parasites that required biological vessels, leading to the creation of the homunculus as an empty host for possession. This theory is used to explain modern phenomena like cattle mutilations and ancient practices involving animated statues.

nephilim· fallen angels· book of genesis· hermes trismegistus· possession· cattle mutilations

42:16 Is that evil or is it all just a sandbox for fractals of God anyway? Because then who cares about starting it over. It really doesn't matter all that much." So there are a lot of weird spiritual philosophical questions that come up, but I do agree with you peppered all throughout the writings is that the elite seem to be motivated to corrupt this thing i guess do you take it back to the fallen angel story do you think that there's some truth to that like these beans came from a higher plane and are. Trying to do their best out of jealousy to destroy god's creation cuz its maybe the only way they can even get under the skin of god so, Alchemy is directly tied into the Nephilim and this concept of

42:59 them entering the daughters of men. Now a lot of people think that was coitus, right? That they physically sexually entered them I think maybe it was more of a parasitic sort of thing Maybe possession right we don't have to be sexual about it like they were possessed or there are parasitic entities because that's sort of what demons and these darker spirits seem like that They feed off the essence of people if you look at like Twin Peaks and things of that where this is why they need death and destruction in the world, and this darker aspect of things. But according to some the origins of alchemy come directly from the teachings that these Nephilim or fallen angels were showing the daughters of men right? You have the concept of makeup, the knowledge of herbs, and metalworking metallurgy, and things of this nature now think about this

43:52 If we're to take these stories at face value, there was a flood. There were these entities I have my whole ideas on that These are interdimensional entities. These are things that could see in my opinion they could see their destruction They saw their destruction right? They exist on this upper realm they came from God or wherever this place is What a better failsafe than to teach alchemy or the precursor to alchemy, to man. Because allegedly the whole bloodline of Noah they were all alchemists and according to some alchemists they did whole commentaries on the book of Genesis because they believed it was actually a book on the instructions how to create what Carl Jung talked about an Unus Mundus or The Philosopher's Stone or A Miniature World, miniature universe

44:40 And that's how they were able to exist for so long in the Bible, because they had access to the Philosopher Stone and they were using these things. And actually Hermes Trismegistus is actually linked to the whole bloodline of Noah and one of his sons Point being that the homunculus in my opinion, right? If it was the true magnum opus as I believe because you needed the philosopher stone in order to create a homunculous. That was their fail safe because a homunculus essentially is, you mentioned earlier, A vessel an empty vessel to be inhabited by what well according to some occultists You can invoke and elemental into it, a planetary spirit, a demon Anything into this vessel so what a better way we know possession is a thing right

45:21 We know people become possessed and they have the entity of Pazuzu or whatever, Baphomet or whoever inside their body. What a better way than to like hey we know were going to be destroyed lets teach you the secrets keep this under your belt and create these things throughout history on a massive scale, right? Because some people think that the whole cattle mutilation thing is because they're creating these biological entities underground for these Nephilim spirits. What better way than to teach it to them from the beginning and once their wiped out there are entities that exist in the Aether that are unable to enter these statues, the Mesopotamian animated statues, the Egyptian animated statutes

46:02 Where are these entities coming from if they don't already exist according to the story agenda? If we're following biblical cosmology, right. And I think that was their failsafe the homunculus or again a homunculus is also an image in which you're able to invoke essence into it can be a thought form or tulpa certain things of this nature where it doesn't need to be physically made In reality It could be something astral Or mental Yeah, it could be. And the animated statues thing I'm always fascinated by that it seems like there's plenty of writing in the Greeks at least where they say no that's the purpose for building these statues

CHAPTER 14 / 24 Discussion

Count Johan Ferdinand von Kufstein and the Ten Homunculi

Count Johan Ferdinand von Kufstein, an 18th-century Freemason, reportedly created ten distinct homunculi, including a king, queen, and monk. These miniature beings were allegedly capable of divination and predicting the future, and their story was later documented by Manly P. Hall. The Count is still cited in some records for having the largest collection of homunculi, which he eventually buried in an undisclosed location.

count von kufstein· guinness book of world records· freemasonry· manly p hall· divination· 18th century

46:43 The more human it looks, the more it starts to talk to you and you kind of have a dialogue with another form of consciousness. And apparently a reliable one, the same consciousness that imbued in the statue was the original Chad GPT Greg. There you go! So I was going to ask you about older stories or examples where maybe someone was successful? There's this one story that you write about Count Johan Ferdinand von Kufstein. Tell us this story because this is where we're not just talking about one, talk about 10. He holds the world record, the Guinness book of world records if you look it up right now largest homunculus

47:32 He Will Come Up, and it was in the 18th century I believe. And this story actually... It was my origin story for how I stumbled across The Homunculus because what inspired my Occultist Monday Journal was the all-seeing eye. So mainly P. Hall had this series of zines like journals And he had the All-Seeing Eye, The Horizon and one more. And I was reading through them because they have a show called The Occult Book Club where we take old books that are not well known and read them break them down talk about him. We were just reading through various Manly P Hall journals because he's been one of my inspirations right with the secret teachings of all ages. And Manly P Hall even wrote about the homunculus! This was the story he wrote about

48:17 Where when I was reading it, what the hell is he even talking about? So the story of this Freemason who along with his assistant, they were able to allegedly create these 10 homunculi. There is a story, a movie, a Frankenstein movie. I think it's the Bride of Frankenstein that actually has a depiction of this and they bring out the little homunculus you know one's a king, the other ones are queen ones a monk i think there's like various aspects to them and he goes to the Freemasonic lodges in their stories about this where he showing them his creation and allegedly they could divinate They could tell the future They could do very thing that was another aspect

49:08 The homunculus is like, why would you make this? Well not only are you trying to emulate God by creating life but you're also going to obtain godlike powers from creating this being. So this dude created 10 of them and apparently the long story short he buries them somewhere, the bodies of him and allegedly they're still there I forgot their location but somewhere in some country there's... The bodies of these homonculi are still there But the fact that he's in the Guinness Book of World Records for having the largest homunculus is bizarre. And that's what interests me because I didn't believe the story when I was reading, I'm like this is too crazy. What does this guy even talking about? Then that's when I stumbled across the Libra vacay and it's been a downhill battle since that because that's when I'm like wait a minute and I'm stepping back and I'm looking and I go wait even Crowley wrote about this in 20th century

CHAPTER 15 / 24 Discussion

James Shelby Downard and the Trinity Site Nuclear Bottle

Researcher James Shelby Downard speculated that a massive 25-foot bottle brought to the Trinity nuclear test site was intended for an exotic alchemical experiment. The theory suggests that the nuclear explosion was viewed as a metaphysical event capable of opening portals or animating matter within the vessel. This aligns with the recurring theme of high-technology pioneers maintaining deep interests in the occult and multi-dimensional incursions.

james shelby downard· trinity site· nuclear explosion· david lynch· esoteric· new mexico

50:06 Well you know my favorite writing about the humongous is quite modern james shelby down right like he. Speculated that at the trinity site thats why they had this big bottle why did they bring a twenty five foot long twelve foot high bottle to the trinity site it's not a question of what i brought there, It's just what was the explanation and they never gave one so james shelby downer stepped in and said well there trying to do really exotic iso teric nuclear experiments again the people at the forefront of technology rocketry. Digital creation they're always involved in a mindset of the cold it seems like time and time again so you know he adds that to the trinity site and its very david lynch right like

50:59 i don't know if anyone other than david lynch is truly depicted nuclear explosions as something metaphysical cross dimensional there's always the speculation will roswell, happen in these ships started showing up because we were doing these multi-dimensional incursions with the nuclear weapon but. I wouldn't put it past him to bring a jar now what was in the jar i don't know like where they trying to capture something that would come through the portal created by the explosion at the trinity site or they just hedging their bets maybe nothing happened but they were prepared for the potential for something happen and maybe they radiated something in the bottle hoping it would come to life. I love this story with your thoughts on that i know you had to look into it 100%.

CHAPTER 16 / 24 Discussion

Jack Parsons, Marjorie Cameron, and the Babylon Working Ritual

In 1946, rocket scientist Jack Parsons and L. Ron Hubbard performed the Babylon Working ritual to manifest the "Whore of Babylon" into reality. Marjorie Cameron subsequently appeared and became Parsons' partner, later miscarrying a child that some speculate was an attempted "Moonchild" or homunculus. These rituals took place near the Trinity site, further linking early aerospace development with sex magic and the invocation of entities.

jack parsons· marjorie cameron· l ron hubbard· babylon working· moonchild· scarlet woman

51:47 The fact is that you can't artificially create gold. You just need tremendous amounts of energy, nuclear energy. So if we're to follow in New Mexico the land of enchantment, the Trinity site... And the way this story I came to understand is when you look into the life of Jack Parsons, Marjorie Cameron allegedly had a miscarriage and according to some that was turned into the CIA or somebody or other that miscarriage, the tissue from that. And the way I come to understand it was what was in that giant thing was the miscarried remains of this thing because before that we have Jack Parsons and L Ron Hubbard in the Babylon working ritual in the middle of a desert

52:38 magically masturbating in order to try and invoke the whore of Babylon and manifest her into this reality. Now, if you follow the story he did succeed with Margie Cameron being the Whore of Babylon right? The Scarlet Woman And after he had manifested her, allegedly they I believe had this sexual magical ritual for two weeks and from that right so being charged from that she became pregnant but then miscarried. And i think that those remains was what was in that huge bottle thing and the fact that it

53:15 magically charge is the reason why I think they picked that. Because again, it all has to go through an occult ritual and it can't just be any random remains. Again this is full speculation but thats what I came to understand when you look into the Epstein connection in New Mexico And his ranch there...I believe Greg and have some evidence To think that Epstein and a lot of these people In the higher ups are Moonchild game or homunculus game because the moon child is another version of it. And I don't know if you caught the latest episode of JRE with Jacques Vallee? No, I know of it. I was like man, I can't fucking get Jack boy now. I'm never going to get him but yeah, I know that that did happen so he said something really interesting in it that I couldn't verify but he said that during the way was a Soviet or somebody around the 50's that they were trying to create

54:16 genetically modified men to pilot their ships, small men to pilot their ships because they were small. Now he's telling this to Joe Rogan but they quickly pass through it around the one hour 14 minute mark for people interested in hearing He just says it real quick like oh there was rumors and you know the government kind of sort of looked into it and nothing else Of course when I looked that up I went through his books trying to find a keyword see if I could pull anything up Nothing But when I hear that artificially created or genetically modified little men to pilot your ships. That sounds a lot like a homunculus, I mean, a small man is a homunculus that were and then when you get into the whole...I don't know if you're into Greer he's also talked about that some of these entities are artificially created again? Again, I don't know A lot of people are very cautious when it comes to the UFO disclosure nowadays

55:15 If they're real or not especially with the government being behind it i think the truth is stranger than fiction but he hints at some of these grades being artificially created in some sort away. Yeah there's a lot of people who say that in their experiences they felt like the grace were cybernetic or some kind of android. And thats cause they're looking at the terminology they have you know, they're looking at some kind of robot because that just the term that comes to mind but if you take it back too before the computer age you would describe her monkey list you know and the same kinda

CHAPTER 17 / 24 Discussion

Love, Death & Robots and the Uncanny Valley of AI Art

The Netflix series Love, Death & Robots is cited as a prime example of the "uncanny valley," where animation becomes nearly indistinguishable from reality. As AI-generated art continues to evolve, the ability to differentiate between artificial and natural creations is rapidly diminishing. This technological progression is viewed as the modern realization of the alchemist's goal to create life-like simulations.

love death and robots· uncanny valley· ai art· animation· netflix· artificial intelligence

55:56 ways, like the same checklist of qualities would exist. You'd just be like man this thing it doesn't seem to have a personality it seems very robotic and yeah Frankenstein you know Terminator sure rigid Yeah not real And that's something about being a human being right where we're able to tell right this uncanny valley were able to tell when something is off There's this one show, I always talk about this. It was a Netflix show of course and it was all animated. I forgot the name of it but it was like Love Sex and Robots or something? Yeah! Love Death and Robots That one...I'll tell you what bro that show freaked me out because there were some points in it where I couldn't tell that it was animation This is before AI art was a thing And now when you look at AI Art

56:49 And it's getting harder and harder to distinguish between what is artificial intelligence, artificially created and the real deal. Yeah I love the term that it's as bad as its ever gonna be you know? And it's pretty good like It's only going to get better from here so You can say it's useless to you today because The hands don't work and this and that Okay well fine it's still an eight out of ten and its only up from here it's going to get weird young kids on my what are these kids lives gonna be like eighteen. Add 1015 years to this, is going to be a crazy world opera be out of the job so you mentioned some evidence regarding the abstain dinner you said if you factor in the abstinence thing then you look at what these people are into you have some evidenced just that day

CHAPTER 18 / 24 Discussion

Jeffrey Epstein, Zorro Ranch, and the Superhuman Race Project

Jeffrey Epstein reportedly intended to use his Zorro Ranch in New Mexico to impregnate dozens of women and engineer a superhuman race. The ranch's architecture and specific square footage are noted for their alignment with Pythagorean and Crowleyan occult principles. Witness Juliet Bryant has alleged that scientific experiments and ritualistic activities occurred at the property, involving lab coats and strange artwork.

jeffrey epstein· zorro ranch· aleister crowley· juliet bryant· eugenics· new mexico

57:38 You know, maybe are into the hermonculous type of thing. What would you say is the best evidence if you're trying to convince someone who just thinks this is too far out? The fact that Epstein was trying to create a superhuman race and impregnate like 33 women at his ranch at one point That is true. I mean, that is true that he was doing that but you could say that's just ego Sure The fact that when you follow the grim war of Aleister Crowley which again how many people are reading Grim Wars of Aleister Crowley on the homunculus and the specific instructions that he says in the location of said ranch, the Zorro Ranch which is 33,339 square feet right? Again back to this Pythagorean Palace connection He specifically talks about having a giant circle

58:24 in which you're supposed to do two people with their astrological alignments, you're supposed to have coitus right in the center of it. Have relations in the center of it while invoking certain elemental entities etc., etc.. Well when you look at the image from Google Earth of this ranch It's got a big circle on the outside of it Hey could just be a garden could just be whatever but there's this interview that I stumbled across recently Of this girl who was allegedly recruited by Epstein himself. And she talks a lot about there being lab coats, things being done to her almost like scientists being there so again this lab coat I mean use your imagination what are they collecting? What are they doing and then all the stuff about Epstein I mean it's all out there you know what they were doing some sort of trafficking operation or maybe

59:24 Try to create the super human race whatever that means and. The fact that all who's gonna follow crowley writings on the homunculus well, a literal rocket scientist if you believe in space, Jack Parsons did. That was the whole reasoning behind the Babylon working rituals of Parsons he was inspired by Crowley's book The Moon Child which is just about that this unborn child that these two lodges are fighting over and that allegedly was the inspiration for everything else that unfolded and it just so happens to be the Trinity site and all these places are right near the Zorro Ranch but this girl talks about

1:00:01 you know, having experiments done on her people in lab coats. Again take it for what it is if you want to believe it or not but she talks about these weird paintings that are on the wall and I can send you the link I don't know the names of the paintings but she talks about a painting on the wall where it's a walrus doing something to uh girl and she's got a picture of it She also talks about Epstein, like his face shifting like a reptilian. Who knows? Maybe she was drugged... Oh okay! I know this one then. Bryant is her last name. I don't know her last name. This was put on my desk recently and in that series of paintings by that same artist the very last painting and i'll send you the link it's like a depiction of a homunculus now i don't know if it's like this embryo in this bubble

1:00:54 I don't know of those paintings were also in that strange weird collection because i mean who has a painting of a walrus having relations with young lady on their wall. Yeah, that's an odd one. And I did like in your writings how you do equate what Crowley talked about and the details of it and how it does show up in The Ranch. You are talking about Juliet Bryant? How funny that just yesterday I was looking into her stuff she is a health guru now so she has kind of a influencer public figure and I've been thinking about trying to get her on the show might happen. I don't know. I haven't even reached out yet but I just had her name handy

CHAPTER 19 / 24 Discussion

Marjorie Cameron, the Wormwood Star, and Hollywood Occultism

Following the Babylon Working, Marjorie Cameron moved to a ranch in California to lead a magical group called "The Children" with the goal of birthing a moonchild devoted to Horus. She referred to one failed pregnancy as the "Wormwood Star," a term with apocalyptic biblical connotations. This era of Hollywood occultism also influenced films like Rosemary's Baby, directed by Roman Polanski, which mirrors themes of birthing demonic entities.

marjorie cameron· wormwood star· roman polanski· rosemary's baby· cern· horus

1:01:34 How funny that came up but she says that she saw him shape shift and she's like. Shape shifters not really the term i would use it was more like a weird holographic overlay that was visible in the night visible, enter me that is like a possession of an entity like a very strong parasitic connection with these entities, maybe sometimes their form shows on the overlay of a person. If you're deep in a ritual trance... I've heard people say when they go to the Amazon and do ayahuasca that you can actually see the spirit of a jaguar take over the shaman and i would say that it's probably close to that like he's in ecstatic state letting the parasite

1:02:23 Possess him potentially and maybe there's a visible visual quality to that in a brief instance maybe it is where the reptilian thing with david i came from entirely. What i was gonna bring this up so the trinity test is nineteen forty five, they say the babylon working was march of forty six i mean it is in that wheelhouse and if there really was something going on you can easily shift the dates by six months or something so that no one ever really. Digs into it figures out who's to say, i mean that was their first attempt at the babylon working but we've talked about that before what i didn't know which comes up in your writing is that

1:03:04 He obviously impregnated marjorie cameron and they aborted apparently but then she moved to a ranch in balmont california nineteen fifty two gathered a loose click of magical practitioner she called the children. Intentionally compromised of members of different races and she oversaw arrange of sex magic rituals with the intention of creating a breed of mixed race moon children, who would be devoted to Horus. She got pregnant doing these rituals and called the fetus the Wormwood Star, but then she had a miscarriage again so they say

1:03:43 wild i didn't know that follow up my new marjorie cameron lived on and had a strange life of me why wouldn't you if you allowed yourself to be apart of this but, when you talk about that thing that she did afterwards that sounds like epstein maybe it's a little more voluntary epstein seemed more like i've got girls change the bed but again they're not leaving that circle. So maybe that's the only big difference, but functionally this is a very similar type of situation. Yeah and she was also in the circle yeah I did look up the sites of the nuclear test 1945 and The Babylon Working According to them was 1946 so again the dates don't line up but

1:04:24 It's in the mix and like I said you can shift dates especially if you're the CIA trying to obscure one odd situation. And the fact that they were never really proud of what Parsons was doing, they were trying to get rid of him which eventually did at the end but again that's devils in details right? But the whole Margie Cameron she was in a circle kind of anger and all these other guys in Hollywood The weird movies that they did, the invocation of my demon brother or something or other and she was Kali in one of them. this weird Hindu god, not weird no disrespect but these depictions when you look at Kali was the counterpart to I believe it was what's the one in front of CERN? They're trying to open up portals and CERN. Kali! Yeah that was like...I think they were counterparts of one another they fight or something and in that circle

1:05:17 Polanski, Rosemary's Baby. They're putting out these movies that you look at them and you go if you look at the concept of Rosemary's Baby or maybe even The Devil's Advocate too it's all in there the concept of birthing the son of the devil right this concept of again having this vessel and invoking an entity or a deity into it and birthing it into reality. And then it turns out that Polanski was actually doing, in my opinion the things that he was filming about right? So you wonder where some people get these ideas of certain stories or books and you go this is just wow this is too crazy well turns out there's a biography right to metafiction if you will and it makes me think about you know genuflect and it might truly be Greg

CHAPTER 20 / 24 Discussion

Occultist Monday Zines and the Church of Cage Podcast

Juan discusses his various creative projects, including the Occultist Monday zines and his podcast network featuring shows like Church of Cage and Illuminati Confirmed. He mentions performing a stand-up comedy set focused entirely on alchemical humor and the homunculus. The segment concludes with a discussion on the importance of researching obscure history and maintaining independent media platforms.

occultist monday· juan on juan· nicolas cage· podcasting· zine culture· stand-up comedy

1:06:08 all about the anal birth of the homunculus. You know, it might be... It might be about that! Alright Tracy Twyman get outta here. Careful going down those roads Man this was a lot of fun lots of weird mysterious stuff out there i appreciate you send me copies of occultist monday they are well made you don't see a lot of physical zine type things anymore and the illustrations are. A lot of fun so i think it's pretty cool that your keeping the spirit of zine culture alive but tell people where they can get the journal listen to the show all the irons you have in the fire

1:06:47 Definitely, Greg. And thank you so much for having me on dude this was awesome and I can now check it off my bucket list like i said i've been listening to you since before I started my podcast, way back when. And I'll say that we have the only alchemical comic drawings ever and also...I'll go ahead and say this that I opened up for Sam Tripley at a stand-up comedy show in Summerfield Florida one day and I am the only person in history to have a full set on homunculus and alchemical humor so you know it is what it is but Now that's pretty nice. Let me ask you though about this alchemical comic drawings because we're talking about Alan Moore, we're talking about Grant Morrison... You're gonna say they don't have alchemical art?

1:07:34 Oh, 100% dude. Well as far as homunculus art definitely ours the only homunculus chemical art well maybe the invisibles yeah I think you're probably right Greg maybe not but i'm just messing with you take it we'll put you in the guinness book right next to that other guy we talked about Again, I appreciate the opportunity. Man this is super fun and you can find me anywhere that you listen to podcasts Apple podcasts my website www dot TJ OJP dot com has all my links. I have a Patreon My backup YouTube channel is Juan on Juan Media

1:08:10 And I'm using that one because again, the main one Juan on Juan got demonetized for weird reasons. That again right? The YouTube overlords are unforgiving and it was 13 second short clip right? Got me pinged after so many years to just look up Juan on Juan and I'm there thank you Greg of course and let me ask you this just for people for clarification When you go to the one-on-one RSS feed, it contains a lot of different things. Like it seems like you're running multiple shows or multiple series within the same RSS feed, which I think is cool. They're all titled correctly like so for clarity sake but you got church of cage, you've got schizospiracy, you gotta call book club Illuminati confirmed coquina cowboys am I missing any?

1:09:02 No, that's pretty much it. Those are the main shows again to Greg we're out here pumping out content and you know sometimes you want to just do an offshoot have you ever done another show grabbing this is your only show right? Yeah I just stick to my guns on a one trick pony and I don't stray yeah i got plenty of shows there's a lot to talk about the world is weird history is weird and there's definitely not a shortage of topics and the weirder It Is The Better The More Esoteric And The More Cold It Is I want to be there. I want to be researching it and I want to bring the interesting aspects of reality, too, the people and I just present the information to them what they do with that information is up to them but i'm not here to push any narratives or anything i'm just here to have a good time amen cheers to that I would agree thanks for doing what you do nice to know another local maybe we'll get together in meet space sometime but best luck out there appreciate your Greg thank you

CHAPTER 21 / 24 Discussion

Brazen Heads, Sylvester II, and the Florida Squallies

Greg Carlwood reflects on the interview and shares additional research on "brazen heads," which were prophetic mechanical or magical heads constructed by figures like Pope Sylvester II. He also previews Plus member content regarding Florida-specific cryptids known as "Squallies" and the mysteries of Bach Tower. These stories involve statues or heads infused with spirits that could answer questions with simple affirmative or negative responses.

brazen head· sylvester ii· florida squallies· bach tower· alchemy· prophecy

1:09:57 Well cock-a-doodle-doo my dameys, how we feelin'? What do we think? It seems like Juan has done some serious research on the hermonculous topic as well as other topics. But as a load bearing wall of this interview it's great thing to talk about I'm glad he was intrigued enough by the idea to accumulate knowledge that he has And shouldn't we all strive to develop deep knowledge of some random bizarre and obscure subject matter I would say so, but I appreciate him sending out his Occultist Monday zines. I honestly get a higher amount of book and guest pitches in my PO box than I really get time to fully dive into...but his stuck out!

1:10:41 It's great art, highly digestible. And I also think i'm just a fan of zines and well put together physical stuff and what do you know? He sent them out and now at the end of that action the butterfly flaps its wings and you're hearing us talk about it! Like always The Second Hour gets deeper and weirder We talked about modern attempts to make hermonculi in Florida the Florida Squallies and local cryptids. I really did want to fit that into the free show because there are some weird theories on what the squallies could be, and i wanted to put it in the title because squallys is such a weird word but we just didn't get there. We got into The Mysteries of Bach Tower and The Little Man Story... Of course that's somewhere Gordon and I had just been

1:11:33 We talked a little more about alchemy, the fountain of youth in Florida and Nicolas Cage and the cinemagician tradition. Juan has got hours of Nic Cage content in a whole sub-series you'll find in his archive and that was fun to touch on too! Become a Plus Member with the links right at the top of the show notes, at thehiresidechats.com or on Patreon where you can even get plus on Spotify if that's your thing! You also get access to the full archive of timeless classics that goes back over 10 years all well edited to be more listenable and all free of any of those pesky sponsor ad interruptions

1:12:18 Alright, so we did get through most of what I had planned to ask him about except his section and volume 4 on ocular heads. There's a couple of great stories about people who constructed heads or did rituals and saw heads And these heads were infused with some spirit and were prophetic in some way and it's just very bizarre Great artwork there too. You might remember when I interviewed Poped, his display name on Twitter for a long time was the brazen head of Sylvester II and i didn't know that was an actual story! In fact here one says Sylvester II crafted the head of a statue using his knowledge of astrology that remained silent until addressed and in typical fashion could only answer yes or no questions

1:13:11 William of Malmesbury in the 12th century writes that he cast for his own purpose the head of a statue by a certain inspection of the stars when all the planets were about to begin their courses which spake not unless spoken too but then pronounced the truth either in the affirmative or negative wild stuff and I've never heard the word spake before but I like it But Juan was fun. I like that he takes a neutral approach to most things, and kudos to him on having the first Old World Florida interview! Dr Longo has certainly become pretty popular. And i think these are some guys that i could do real world events with from time to time we will see how you people respond

CHAPTER 22 / 24 Discussion

Vitamin Pilling, Fetal Programming, and the Vitamin D Controversy

The host addresses listener feedback regarding a previous episode with Daniel Reutis on "vitamin pilling" and food synergy. The discussion centers on the claim that synthetic vitamins are merely drug analogs and that vitamin D levels are markers of sunlight exposure rather than something easily replaced by a pill. Despite some controversy among listeners, the host defends the perspective that living food acts as a container for light energy.

daniel reutis· vitamin d· fetal programming· nutrition· synthetic analogs· sunlight

1:14:00 I try not to go too deep into Florida centric stuff just because I'm here, but there are a lot of layers to this place. And if the stories are good and the mysteries are interesting, I guess for me, I don't really care where they come from. I'll talk to analogue for example about every single state with pretty much the same level of interest But speaking of how you people respond, let's look at the last show. Daniel Reutis, vitamin pilling us all food synergy and fetal programming so many interesting health perspectives and plus members brought it in at a 4 point four now we know this is still good but if you've been listening to me do this I think it's clear that for our typical scale that is on the lower side of still good

1:14:50 and I expected a 4.7 or 4.8, i thought we'd be on that top tier to me the vitamin origin stories are really eye-opening and it makes sense to me that you can't just cut around this one thing and call it vitamin c and say it's the thing that makes an orange a healthy food You can make a synthetic analog for a compound that might have some symptom-masking effects and give it the same name, but all drugs are essentially making a synthetic analog of something found in nature so that they can tweak it and patent it. They just say that more outright with drugs than not so much with vitamins There are a lot of claims about intravenous vitamin C

1:15:34 But I don't think when they do that, that vitamin C comes from any natural source. So it is just another drug and I guess it was controversial based on a couple of comments for him to say that vitamin D is just the marker in your body of how much sunlight you've gotten but that's kind of true isn't? It I don't think there's anything you can put in a pill and say this is the same as what the sun gives you But you can measure this one thing in the body, the vitamin D level and know that it corresponds to how much sun a person gets. And that also relates to health outcomes and you can probably synthesize something put it on a pill and have it also affect the level of that thing in the body but just because you call that vitamin D in a pill and it raises your vitamin D level in the body

1:16:36 doesn't really mean anything. We know dietary cholesterol does not raise the body's cholesterol level, but some of the critics of those ideas were saying that it's pretty common knowledge that a lot of red meat has vitamin D in it. Well yeah! It has the same marker that we have that shows how much sunlight we got and I think food whether its vegetable fruit or meat If it's living food, it's a container for light energy and that light energy gets transferred through eating. I don't think that's weird to say that you can look at other living things and get that same marker reading. I dunno. I just found all of this interesting and thought it would be held in higher regard. That's all. But 4.4 is fine!

CHAPTER 23 / 24 Discussion

Higher Side Meetups and Live Show Audio Logistics

Greg Carlwood provides updates on upcoming Higher Side Meetups in Raleigh, New York City, and Tarpon Springs, Florida. He also discusses the technical challenges of a recent live show with Gordon White, noting an embarrassing audio mishap involving a lapel microphone. Listeners are encouraged to check the events calendar at HiresideMeetups.com to connect with the community locally.

higher side meetups· raleigh· new york city· tarpon springs· live podcast· audio recording

1:17:34 Also in higher side news, the live event with Gordon is up for plus members almost three hours long. It should be in the RSS feed and you can also get it on the website and the Patreon. And then the show notes of that post is also a link to the video if you want to watch it instead of just listen I actually thought this would be a good test of providing the same content in video and audio format, and seeing if people really do jump over to watch the video instead. So far it seems like the answer is no—many people would rather just still listen. And I have gotten some audio complaints but don't think it's too bad for a live show. I've heard a lot of really rough live recordings

1:18:22 And of course, this is not something we usually do. So we just tried to record it in as many ways as we could and the primary way was with my Rodecaster plugged right into the speaker system right into the board but the guy running sound only had my microphone connected to it so that clearly wasn't the audio source we were able to use I also had a Tascam sitting on the table and i think that is what i used for the audio but if you end up watching the video, the audio source is actually the lapel mics that Gordon brought. Apparently you can actually hear everything when i got up from the table to go take a leak because i was only thinking about the physical mics on the table not the lapel mic my bad! I'm not used to doing live stuff

1:19:16 That's very embarrassing. If I would have caught it, I would have got it out of there but it is what it is This is why like the creature comforts of my own home But if I were to get out again...I'd be going to a meetup somewhere on this island earth Let's see What's on the events calendar? Very little but we got Saturday April 12th Raleigh North Carolina Raleigh Brewing Company Sunday April 20th New York New York at The Standard Beer Garden and April 27th right here just outside of Tampa in Tarpon Springs, Florida at the Sponge City Brewery. And then we got one way off in the distant future of June 1st in Huntington Indiana at Heartland Harbor well it seems March was a lot more jam-packed but hey better than nothing

CHAPTER 24 / 24 Discussion

Transhumanist Future and the End of Show Musical Mix

The show concludes with a sign-off and a musical track themed around the transhumanist future and technological integration. The lyrics touch on productivity, microchips, and the loss of human essence in a wired world. The host thanks Plus members for their support and challenges the "homunculus makers" of the world as the episode fades out.

transhumanism· higher side chats· outro· music· productivity· technology

1:20:14 Why not go meet some new people at a local food and drink spot that you like, get that place a shout out on the show and find people who have similar interests and propagate that locally. Free and open to everyone, HiresideMeetups.com But that's the show thanks for listening huge thanks to those plus members who hear the whole thing and the guests like Juan who tell us about such fascinating subjects I'm out I've done my part. Your move, Hermunculus Makers, Alchemical Art Engineers and Squallies of Golden Gate Estates. You're fuckin' moved. You can try your best but you won't succeed In the transhumanistic future we see We'll keep you wired so you can sleep Tech is a curve It's just one chip behind your face

1:21:21 And some parts below that we can't replace. This leaves no time to wait and list the lights inside forever connect to fix you! Your computational hours grow, You run endless loops of cat video. Offense will soar and cash will increase your worth. Lights inside

1:22:43 The people that first get it should have a massive advantage over people that don't have it yet. Well, I mean its the kind of thing where your productivity would improve dramatically maybe by a factor of 10 with it so you could definitely just take out a loan and do it money back real fast. Yeah! Super smart When do you think you're gonna do? How long will you wait?

1:23:42 Raise a big tree, new face. Stand by our big dream, new phase. Highs of big trees, new face. Stand by to fix you