Jon Rappoport | The Ebola Conspiracy, Vaccine Whistleblowers, & Rockefeller Medicine

00:04 In the 1930s, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed a nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the Fireside Chats. His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times but we're far from 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire For a new era of worldly frustration We offer a fresh conversation! I'm Greg Carlwood These are The Hireside Chats Oh my god, Hireside Chatters. How the hell are ya? I am your humble host who calls himself The Carl Wood drinking a little drink smoking a little smoke from sunny San Diego just trying to take the edge off in these highly tense times but i am so happy with today's show people have been asking me to do an episode about Ebola and

00:51 medical industry and I've been listening to what various researchers are saying, and for my money as ignorant as i am nobody is more on point with the medical and pharmaceutical arms of the elites multifaceted population control and murder machine than John Rappaport. I think his perspective is the most logical and when you have a scare like Ebola or the swine flu, or i get into a conversation about vaccines. I always try to keep John's work in mind and it's a great show but john wasn't able to do a full two hours we're going to call this one a THC special report And there are still gonna be four more full 2-hour shows coming out this month so don't worry about that This one is extra and extra important! I think there's a lot to be learned here

01:33 So I don't see much of a need for me to take up any more time talking. So let's take the trip and dive into the crimes of the CDC, our understanding of disease and medicine HIV Ebola vaccines in that whole big ball of wax with a truly great investigative journalist John Rappaport When I find myself in times of trouble Mr. Carl Wood comes to me speaking words of wisdom THZ People, we know that our reality is warped and tweaked to suit the needs of the nefarious elite. And this well-orchestrated multifaceted campaign covers almost every aspect of human existence. Right now we have several major propaganda campaigns coverups and psyops going on in the medical world It's easy to get caught in the snares of misinformation when our understanding of things like health and disease have been shaped to benefit their agenda at a fundamental level for our entire lives

02:29 Well, today's guest back for a second appearance is independent investigative journalist John Rapoport the man behind nomorefakenews.com and he has dedicated a lot of his time to understanding the underlying manipulations of the medical industry and following the cover-ups in containment of small glimpses of truth that fall through their tightly wrapped security blanket And with vaccines disease and CDC so prevalent in today's news cycle I thought it would be an opportune time to talk to the guy who's been fighting the good fight against these guys before was cool and i can't wait to get down to it from right outside of San Diego. John my man, welcome to show! Thanks great to be here Greg Yeah man its a real privilege to have you here I've learned a lot from you on these subjects and am excited to share with people in gain some yardage against the medical machine

03:13 We have a lot of alternative researchers chalking Ebola up to either an advancement on the population reduction campaign of the elite or strictly an overblown media fear campaign. But you've learned a lot from tracking AIDS and scary stories like swine and bird flus, it seems like before we can really get into Ebola there's some fundamental things about disease health and diagnosis that need to be understood What have been some of the major revelations for you over the years as you've been investigating these kind of things? Well, starting in 1987 when I was writing my first book called AIDS Inc. Scandal Of A Century one of the really shocking things that I came across is one of the simplest things and that is how do you decide that somebody has a certain disease

04:07 you know, you say well this person has HIV or this person has swine flu or this person has Ebola. We hear and read from media case numbers of people who have died we hear that there's an outbreak which indicates that people are sick and dying And then were told that there is a reason for this So cold you know virus whatever the virus of the moment is so what it all boils down to is in order to say that anybody has a particular disease caused by a particular virus, you've got to do a test.

04:56 You know, I mean there isn't any other way around it. Right? You're not going to say well He doesn't look well or he's got diarrhea Or he's vomiting or he's got a fever because those symptoms are so broad in general including by the way bleeding and hemorrhaging that they could be attributed to dozens of different causes. So you've got to have a test and this is what people, most people fail to grasp if you're not testing, you don't know anything or suppose that the tests, the diagnostic tests that you're doing are unreliable or worse useless or even worse irrelevant to the matter at hand

05:48 Now you're totally in the dark, which means that the people who are heading up the medical operation are writing script. They're making it up! They're pretending they know something when they don't and so starting back in 1987 I began examining the most frequently done tests for HIV which was a so-called antibody test of which there were two One was called the ELISA test and the other was the so-called gold standard, the Western blot. And they were both searches for antibodies to that specific virus HIV. I found so many things wrong with that test at the time. So many false positives as they would call it in other words, the tests is reacting two things that have nothing to do with HIV

06:46 The test is being done in a flawed way by the technicians. And worst of all, the test says nothing about whether or not the person was sick, is sick, or is going to get sick—says nothing about that whatsoever." And that's the case with the antibody test. And then after I wrote the book, along came what was supposed to be a much more specific and sophisticated test called PCR polymerase chain reaction which was invented by a resident of San Diego biochemist named Carrie Mullis who won a Nobel Prize for it in 1993

07:34 And this test was now being used, not only for HIV but as the phony epidemics rolled along. For every epidemic including the current one so called epidemic of Ebola and that test has its own shortcomings to say the least. The major shortcoming is that it says nothing about how much of a given virus is in a person's body because you need millions and millions of active virus in a person's body to even begin to say that the virus is causing illness or disease, or dying. The test says nothing about that. In fact it is also prone to many errors the first of which is that the tiny tiny sample of tissue

08:32 or genetic material taken from the patient is not a piece of virus at all, but it's just simply some cellular debris. And we're talking about such minor amounts of sample size they are undetectable with the naked eye and what the PCR test does it amplifies that tiny sample, blows up millions of times so that can be observed But if you start off with the wrong item, then everything else that happens after that is going to be totally flawed and irrelevant as well. And then you've got lab errors and so forth because this is a multi-step very specific in detail process. So those are now the two standard tests for Ebola antibody and PCR. As I've written many articles by now at NoMoreFakeNews

09:31 They are unreliable, useless and irrelevant. Therefore – and this comes I know as a shock to many people who are believers in what medical authorities say – there is absolutely no way to say that anybody on the planet has Ebola is sick from Ebola, is dying from Ebola or has died from the Ebola because the only thing that allows you to say that is the diagnostic test. And I would put this close to the top of the biggest medical scandal of the last hundred years. It's not well known most people writing about a bowl no matter what they're saying are which side of the issue they're on have no idea about

10:27 What these tests constitute how irrelevant they are so they automatically accept the initial assumptions. of the medical cartel, which is a there's a new outbreak of accelerated death in a certain region of the planet in this case West Africa. And that the cause of this is something called the Ebola virus they accept that and then from that point they go on to have their various positions about you know, why this is happening and how it happened and so forth and so on. And what the agenda behind it is but until you get down to this level that I'm talking about now there's no way to have a clue about what is really going on and how deceptive the whole game actually is. Right

11:17 Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. That this being the first line of defense and the first area manipulation I mean everything that comes after it's kind of a moot point but obviously though makers of these tests know that they're ineffective whether it's by design or just inconvenience is up to for debate but how How much of the medical community knows this information? Are doctors and nurses kind of ignorant or are they just accepting the tests from the higher up and then just going with, you know red or green positive or negative. Yes They're accepting The vast majority people in the medical profession simply accept that the tests are reliable They're good and useful there is a small number of people

12:05 in the medical professions, in the research, medical research professions who have questioned the test. But as has been pointed out to me by several people there's a process of selection here and other words if you happen to be one of the medical professionals who question or doubt the veracity of the tests You don't get to publish it in journals. You do not get to have grant money you don't get to do studies, you don't get to do a re-analysis of the tests by other means that are more direct and correct. You're not part of the game anymore, you see? And in fact if you begin to make noise about this then if you have a job you can lose it If you have grant money you can lose it. You can be exiled outside the community

13:07 So, there are very real dangers and medical professionals and research people understand this. So it looks like there are only a very few people who doubt the central reality that's being given to us from the top of the control ladder but in fact there are more except they're just remaining quiet. I wanted to hop back to AIDS for a little bit because i know you did do a lot of research into it and, I'm still kind of confused about it. A little bit...I think it left a lot of people with a lot of questions that just sort of drifted in the background after its huge explosion and what really happened there? Well you know I covered that in about 320 pages in my book so boiling it down is a little bit difficult but

14:01 Here's the way my research proceeded back in 1987. I knew there was something wrong with the story, the narrative but i couldn't put my finger on it and it was my first time out as an investigator into medical issues And I had a lot of help, a lot of input from researchers But what I was looking at was immune suppression The destruction of the immune system was said to be the hallmark of AIDS and HIV. And then, the person would die from some sort of an infection from a germ that would ordinarily be completely harmless except that his immune system was so weakened that he couldn't fight off that infection and so it just blossomed then you died. So this was the mantra.

15:08 In the spring of, or yeah spring summer of 1987 I was alerted by a publisher that there was a paper in a journal. A recognized journal that questioned HIV as the cause of AIDS up to that point. I had bought The Assumption just like everybody else and i read the paper i interviewed the researcher extensively. I interviewed other researchers who were very angry about the appearance of this research paper. And I applied simple logic to what they were saying on all sides of the issue, and I came up with a conclusion that there was very serious reason to doubt that what was being called AIDS was caused by this virus called HIV. So here's the tack that I took.

16:09 The CDC Centers for Disease Control claims that there are several so called high risk groups for AIDS, Africans, Haitians, trans blood transfusion recipients hemophiliacs gay men. Alright, so suppose I were to go into those quote communities and do research and see if there were reasons why the immune systems of these people were collapsing that had nothing to do with a virus, HIV or any other virus. In other words that the story might be much simpler than we've been led to believe and lo and behold, that's exactly what I found. The reasons for immune system collapse in these different groups were different but they all led to that same basic

17:12 end point, no immune system. Therefore no ability to fight off any kind of germ or toxic element therefore dying death and so I spent a great deal of time in the book AIDS Inc laying out this case for example, I found considerable research that the biggest cause of so-called T cell depletion in the world is malnutrition. And T cells are a vital component of the immune system, in fact for some time researchers have been saying that HIV was infecting and destroying T cells and that's why immune systems failed but when I started to look into malnutrition in Africa I discovered many research papers

18:11 information in the literature that indicated that, you know large numbers of people were dying because their immune systems were destroyed because they were starving to death or they were severely malnourished. Or they weren't getting enough protein and that you didn't really need any kind of a virus to explain this. That's just one illustration out many non-viral factors that were killing people In gay men in New York and San Francisco was something entirely different. In hemophiliac patients, it was something entirely different many different factors and after that I went back to HIV and I said well what proof do we have that HIV causes immune suppression? So I began to look at the original research by Robert Gallo

19:13 And one of the hallmarks of research is that you take people who have been diagnosed with a certain disease and you look for a common virus that is present in all these people. By the methods of medical research, you should be able to find it and extract from everybody that's labeled with specific disease. Well, on the case of gallo you were looking at between maybe, maybe 30 to 60% of the people that he used as volunteers. Maybe well that was a big shocker because based on that there was no proof to say that HIV caused AIDS You would reject it out of hand but he didn't and then they're and he was the primary moving force

20:18 for the announcement of HIV as the cause of AIDS. And then I found many other anomalies operating in his research and his lab, for example, his claim that he isolated HIV himself when it was obvious that he was simply using a specimen from the Pasteur Institute in Paris that had been given to him under the pretext that he was going to do further research on or so forth but He basically committed a criminal act by simply lifting that virus specimen and using it to claim that he had proved that HIV caused AIDS. In other words, this guy began to appear as a criminal figure rather than an honest researcher. So that was part of the research. And then on top of it

21:19 People who were diagnosed as being HIV positive, were being given a drug called AZT which had been released for public use based on a completely fraudulent human study of efficacy. And this drug was a chemotherapy drug that had been put on the shelf at the National Institutes of Health in around 1960 because They had tried it on rats with leukemia and it was a failure. And all of the sudden, for some unknown reason they resurrected it and now they were giving it to everybody who is being diagnosed as HIV positive

22:07 And not being given like chemotherapy is given, where because the drugs are so highly toxic you say okay you're going to get a round of chemotherapy and then we wait and give you another round. No! This was being given to patients at high dose every day for the rest of their lives Well this drug attacks all cells in the body and keeps them from reproducing as chemo drugs do And it has a particular affinity for destroying cells of the immune system, which is supposed to be characteristic of what HIV is doing. Right? So now we were into murder. Murder couldn't characterize any other way. Anyway these are just some of the elements that I uncovered and there are many more in The Complete Hoax called AIDS so

23:07 When, you know other so called epidemics came down the pipeline. West Nile bird flu SARS swine flu Ebola I began to apply the same research methods to these and I found The same situation, the same pattern of research that I did with HIV paid off with all these other so-called epidemics Right. Yeah, I mean there's so much ignorance about science and the science of disease It's obviously a key component and there's so much damage to be done So I know people are anxious to hear about Ebola But you have to go and do the groundwork because there's so many fundamental things about disease so many Misconceptions that you can't talk about it without going back to square one. Yeah That's the thing you see

24:04 And that's what I keep emphasizing in my articles about Ebola. Go back to the basic assumptions here, question everything because as you remarked earlier if you begin to accept the basic assumptions your cooked because then your right on track that they want you on and you're going to follow along. Yes, you may have disagreements yes, you may say they're lying about this they should have done that CDC is crazy but if you never get back to the basic assumptions You are never going to see the real picture and that is a major problem

24:49 So do you see this, I mean obviously most of the elites campaigns are multifaceted but are we seeing a situation where the companies that are making the tests and treatments or the same company. What is the motivation behind getting the numbers so high knowing that they're false positives? I wrote an article the other day called Ebola, who benefits 30 answers. Right? That's a great this is is a multi-level operation there are many payoffs at many different levels but yes the testing companies that make the diagnostic tests and the vaccine manufacturers and the drug manufacturers etc they all live in this same basic world

25:40 They all know that they're feeding each other. So there are no cop-outs, nobody defects, nobody suddenly says hey these tests are useless. Wait a minute the vaccine manufacturer says everything that we're doing to develop a vaccine is based on the test! That never happens so there's a community of interest there you bet But, you know then you've got other motivations behind this. For example the West African countries of Liberia Guinea and Sierra Leone are vast rich sources of natural resources diamonds oil gold you know whatever etcetera and farmland

26:35 So, the idea of weakening and depopulating the people of those countries through other means that have nothing to do with the virus has been an ongoing campaign for a very long time because The whole point is to take over the resources of those countries. Talking about outside financiers, mega corporations like mining corporations and so forth to just totally rape and pillage the country. Well if you're going to do that as we've seen in Nigeria for example with oil You're gonna get resistance from the population So the weaker you can make the population

27:23 The more poor you can keep them, the more war you can foment between different sectors. The more starvation that you can bring, the more industrial pollution that destroys bodies, the more toxic pesticides you can introduce and I've covered all this in great detail in my articles You've now got an ongoing chronic situation which is benefiting the big heavy hitters who want to take over these countries. And then in addition, you seal off the borders and you bring in military troops from the US and other countries well I mean that's transparent but if you look at it from that angle You now see that the virus, the Ebola virus is a fantastically good cover story for all of this

28:17 Because everybody throws up his hands and says, well we don't know what's going on. It's Ebola! We just leave it to the medical people All this death and dying? We don't know from that. We never did You know all of a sudden... And they did the same with HIV Oh my god HIV Never heard of it Wow That's why everybody is dying Ebola oh that's why everybody is dying These are cover stories People have to look at these so-called epidemics as intelligence ops. They are like intelligence agency operations, and every intelligence agency operation needs to have a great cover story which is a diversion away from what is actually going on

29:01 And what is actually going on in these countries is the destruction of the population through these factors that I briefly mentioned here, which has been going on forever. But they need cover stories. They can't just say yeah we're killing the people! They can't just say look we know that we could bring in any number one of let's say 5 000 companies tomorrow and they would clean up the contaminated water supplies of our country in six months, thereby eliminating a huge amount of death and dying. They can't say that but you know people begin to wonder about this. You know how come they're not cleaning up the water?

29:54 Anybody can do that. Maybe they're keeping the water contaminated on purpose, yeah? Why would they want to... And then now the operation is in danger it could be exposed you start pulling on that string for a while and you begin to see other things so they always need a cover story Well, the invisible killer virus that nobody could see and it can attack anybody anywhere at any time Fantastic. Yeah better than terrorism Absolutely much better and then on top of that you see in order to cement down the cover story You've got to have international Patience you can't just put it in West Africa

30:42 Oh, we got a guy in Dallas. Oh, we've got a nurse in Maine. Oh, we've got this doctor in New York. Oh, we've got somebody in Spain. Oh it's getting out! Oh this that oh you see now the fear factor is raised considerably the scare propaganda media get on this and it becomes a bonanza of hysteria. That convinces yet more people that the whole thing is real to begin with, that we've got a viral outbreak here because now people feel like well you know maybe I should stay in the house if i live in New York maybe I shouldn't walk on the streets or maybe

31:27 the editor of my newspaper who was in Liberia, maybe I should stay away from him at work. All this insanity and then you get pictures in the news of people in hazmat suits in New York and all of a sudden now you're really cooking with the cover story. Now people are just they would never turn around say hey this whole thing is fake virus we don't even know if anybody's sick from the virus You need those international patients to cement down the cover story and that's exactly what we're getting. Yeah, that's making a lot of sense! So let's go deep into the storyline of Ebola I mean it's been the media's main topic for some time now but take a little bit of time to walk us through this specific saga What do people really need to know about the way this specific case has unfolded? Okay start off with the word outbreak

32:25 You see, they use terms and words images that resonate with people. That bring up fear in people that bring up in people other images other emotions other ideas other beliefs right? This is media propaganda it sells newspapers but it also helps to push forward the agenda behind this whole thing. So start with the word outbreak, what does that mean to people? Oh well all of a sudden people are dying that weren't dying before and outbreak means contagion it's spreading its infectious its transmissible It must be adjourned All of that is included in the idea of outbreak see Right busting through the wall like the Kool-Aid man Exactly

33:21 So that's where you begin. And then, of course on top of that the experts come along and they say we know why We have the outbreak it's a germ when everybody goes home. Oh yeah Well, I mean that's what an outbreak is right? We've seen all the movies Okay, so what is it? It's a virus oh yeah okay What virus Ebola okay sold That's where it all starts in the media and from that point on What the media is doing is simply taking all of their stories from the press offices at the Centers for Disease Control and the World Health Organization. Now it's a done deal, how many people are dying? Okay 900 next week 1500 next week 3000 How many cases 6000 you know we provide the CDC just pumping all this out newspapers are picking it up

34:30 How is it transmitted? Okay, so the CDC now there's a big debate. Oh okay can you get it in the air and you get it in water can you get it by brushing up against somebody this that and the other thing but thats all part of the hype and scare because now you create uncertainty about who the deadly terrorist how can I suddenly die because im attacked by the terrorists I don't know what do I do Im not sure And the fear is built up step by step, brick by brick until the people are so hooked on this story. Just like reading a novel or like watching a series on TV everybody's aching to find out the next episode will the doctor in New York die in hospital? Why did the nurse take a bike ride? Will the governor of Maine have her arrested and quarantined

35:30 with cops guarding her house. On and on and on this goes, you see? And at that point no more basic groundwork has to be done the media carried this like a weekly TV series like CSI or Scandal or whatever everybody wants to know the next episode and it's a done deal Yeah man, I am with you. And one aspect that is most interesting about this case opposed to the situations in the past is the quarantine drama.

36:12 of any of the other disease scares in the last 30 years, but now there's so much emphasis on the drama of quarantine versus civil liberties. And the media has done a great job turning the public against these people leading them to believe they're a threat which is the same story and thing they try to do with terrorists but most of us are a little more wise to that game. But this is the same story, we had this huge public outcry over indefinite detention the government can now lock up anybody without charge even Americans and everybody's upset about it but they're doing this right now to people You say somebody's got Ebola and you have the publics full support to lock them up for as long as you need because they bought the lie just like the Boston bombing. They issued a police state their citywide lockdown over two suspects, and then we see the citizens clapping and cheering and waving the flags for this behavior and the elite have to be loving it because this really is a bit of a sweet spot for them. And that's why you've got all this issue of arguing back and forth about quarantine

37:15 It's to raise public sentiment. All of a sudden this nurse, who by the way works for the CDC as an epidemic intelligence officer which is sort of intelligence wing of the CDC... Might she be like a crisis actor? Yeah in a sense she is and maybe actually is Maybe this whole thing has put up job but either way her refusal to be quarantined exacerbates the public sentiment on the side of quarantine. And so you brought up the issue of civil liberties, and again this is a big element of the Ebola operation. We want to be able to quarantine American citizens and we want to gain acceptance for this. We're not quarantining the entire city of New York but we're moving in that direction step by step

38:20 Because once we can do that, we can now set the stage for more extensive quarantines. And also, we can mandate the vaccine whenever it is released. We can say all right all health workers in the state of Maine and New York City and in Dallas here and there whatever have to get the vaccine otherwise they're fired Well, if you've been following the flu story you know that this is already rampant among nurses. True Some of whom have refused the vaccine and they've been fired so with the Ebola vaccine I mean this is going to be much more heavy she refused to take the vaccine and She's working around Ebola patients and as now possibly a carrier well We gotta fire her and quarantine

39:25 I mean, right. This is heavy stuff and then the vaccine as more becomes available is now mandated for all of the contacts of the Dallas Ebola patient all of the contacts of Craig Spencer, the doctor in New York City who's in Bellevue Hospital and you know begins to spread okay now we want to vaccinate everybody who lives in the following neighborhood in New York City, now we're really getting down to it. Door-to-door searches and if you refuse we arrest you and you are now quarantined for 21 days 42 days whatever it is right? It's moving in that direction! And what what is that all about? That's about control of the population. It's about the elimination of the Bill of Rights, The Right To Assembly

40:32 Okay, so now in Midtown Manhattan we're going to say that all concerts are cancelled. Well that's the right of assembly! Okay well what about the political event scheduled for such and such hotel? Nope can't do that either. Why? The virus. And as I extensively articulated in AIDS Inc., Medical operations are the most successful political operations because they don't appear to be political at all. They're totally neutral, non-partisan we're doing this for you we care We're saving humanity This has nothing to do with politics blah blah blah blah blah And that is why To me in the long term The medical cartel is the most dangerous cartel on planet

41:31 Agreed, yeah they get a total pass and when your guard is down that's when you're the most susceptible. And that's what we're seeing here and I guess the most common thread that i'm hearing in the conspiracy community of alternative researchers as are generally saying that the Africans are telling them there was nobody sick before The Red Cross started to show up And from that, people are deducing that oh well the Red Cross and the CDC and the people who were going out there actually infecting them with Ebola. But I mean it seems here that there just might not be any Ebola at all! They're just picking up sick people and just labeling them in that way kind of like we saw a lot of people think Sandy Hook-there was no shooting that it was all just for the cameras. It seems to me the same way here is there just no Ebola outbreak at all?

42:17 Well, until somebody can show me that they're doing a diagnostic test that makes any sense on people. The burden of proof is on them it's not on me or you right? You're going to tell me that people are dying and the world is in an uproar because of this that and the other thing prove otherwise get out of my way now as far as vaccine campaigns in the third world I covered that in AIDS, Inc. and i've continued to write about it over the years first of all these campaigns as they're constituted without any special changes are inherently toxic why because every vaccine contains toxic chemicals that are injected into the body like formaldehyde and like polysorbate 80

43:19 And then we've got heavy metals like mercury and aluminum. I mean, these are incredibly toxic things and they're injected into the body directly. And then on top of that you've got germs, the germ that's supposed to be in a virus I mean in the vaccine, and then other passenger germs that get into vials of the vaccine because there are germs everywhere including in laboratories that make vaccines. And we've had numerous scandals about that over the years so if people believe that these labs are pristine and pure and the facilities that manufacture are pristine you know they should rethink that it's not true.

44:06 sort of exposed in an indirect way. It's being injected into the body, which means it bypasses a number of normal channels of the immune system and some of these elements cross the blood-brain barrier like heavy metals and cause irreparable damage so take that okay Take, let's say five major vaccine campaigns in a country like Liberia where you already have a population whose immune systems are on the edge of collapsing and already have collapsed. Now on top of that you're going to inject these people with five different vaccines well it's called murder now on top of that and I'm not ruling this out

45:06 It's very easy to include in a vaccine some special thing, some other toxic element on top of all that toxicity which will render people even more helpless and will create more death and dying. Very easy to do! You don't have to have vials of virus that you know you walk around and you just kind of release...you just do vaccines Yes, the World Health Organization in order to save humanity and Africa is new. A yellow fever vaccine campaign and we have $300 billion to promote the campaign to people forget the actual campaign right? To explain why it's such a great idea and everybody should get behind it then we're collaborating with the medical system of Liberia and the government and blah blah blah you know

46:07 And you get these celebrities behind all this, these celebrities who know absolutely zero about any of this. Right? But who want to be thought of as saviors and prophets and messiahs or whatever so they do this I mean the medical well just give me an example I wrote about this the other day July 26, 2000 Journal of the American Medical Association a review called is US health really the best in the world written by Dr. Barbara Starfield who at the time was a revered public health expert at Johns Hopkins School of Public Health so this was a mainstream review everybody's credentials were meticulous you would think therefore it would become a major media story

47:13 Because what Starfield concluded was every year in the US, the medical system directly kills 225 thousand people. That's 2.25 million people per decade like clockwork and the reason I bring this up is to illustrate that modern medicine which is really pharmaceutical medicine which if you track it back to its source Is really Rockefeller Medicine It's incredibly toxic on the face of it, without having to get into exotic explanations and bioengineered weapons and so forth. I'm not trying to say that nobody should do that research. I'm just saying you don't need it in order to explain the killing factor of modern medicine. So that story was covered in the press briefly in 2000, then it disappeared

48:18 And I interviewed Dr. Starfield in 2009, and one of the questions that I asked her was since you published that paper has any element of the government approached you to help in fixing this situation? No she said and I said To your knowledge has the government undertaken any remedial effort to reverse this horrendous situation no In fact, if you go to an FDA website page called Why Learn About Adverse Drug Reactions? You will see that the FDA itself says that every year in the US 100,000 people die as a result of ingesting medical drugs. And this is the – that's 1 million people per decade and this is the agency that is tasked – the only agency

49:25 with certifying drugs as safe and effective before they're released for public use. And yet, they're taking no responsibility for it. So what we're looking at here is a holocaust of enormous proportions and in order to keep this system going and not only keep it going but to promote it as valuable beneficial even heroic The people behind that system need epidemics. These are highlights for them

50:04 to keep on promoting the quote heroic aspects of modern medicine. And the doctors are going to West Africa even though they could die and they're doing this and that, and they're coming back and there in isolation wards and it's wonderful and the doctors are getting off the planes here in Sierra Leone you know all of this total bullshit promotion of modern medicine when in fact What Africa needs is nutritious food, clean up the water supplies return the stolen farmland stolen by corporations and collusion with dictators to the people so they can grow their own food and eat it. Let people resettle out into the country to eliminate the horrendous overcrowding in the cities which was always a breeding ground for disease

51:05 when you have no basic sanitation, restore basic sanitation to these countries. Eliminate the toxic vaccine campaigns and the toxic medical drugs and these countries will recover but that's not in the cards for the reasons I explained so instead what we're seeing is the only thing that can save Africa is doctors. That is total horseshit That is the reverse of what's needed. This is not a medical problem and in fact if you read actual histories of the decline of infectious disease in the West, what you see is that these basic factors that I've just mentioned are the reason for their decline nothing medical not the vaccines and not the medical drugs The decline began long before

52:06 of the widespread use of vaccines or the introduction of antibiotics. Improve the nutrition, the rise of the middle class get the sewers off of the streets so that you don't have feces floating in the streets Clean up the cities Better food, nutrition Magically disease disappears The medical cartel must conceal this fact Right, or they're all out of a job. Exactly This is just so enlightening because commonly people ask about Ebola and like what's going on? And everyone thinks this is part of a depopulation campaign by the elite that it's finally happening that the Georgia Guidestones have been updated and now you know we're in the final moments but what never made sense about that to me is like You know the elite have

53:01 themselves and their families to care about. You can't just release a serious virus because how do you contain it? And I thought, well maybe the elite have some high-end clean vaccines so they don't have to worry about it but this makes it much more simple. It's just a PR game really and the elite aren't in any danger they don't have to worry about oh am I going to get is this Ebola thing gonna get way too out of control because there is no Ebola thing! So it's so much easier to maintain This is so enlightening Yeah, it's so much easier to maintain a fake than to try and deal with the real thing. No question about it. You don't need any of that! And by the way, the whole preposterous idea that there are these magic antidotes is total nonsense because how disease develops in the body – the actual process by which it occurs has everything to do with immune system

54:04 There are no magic bullets that you can give people, that just knock out a virus. That's just sheer fiction that you see in movies oh well but now we have the antidote was flown in at the last minute and we injected her with it and low behold she drowned. Absolute nonsense so yes And and put in those movies that also affects the way the public perceives it. Oh big time, big time, big time they love that started off with michael crichton you could say the modern recent version of the andromeda strain which was you know for a popular movie very well done because they kept

54:53 pressing you up against the, the researchers in the labs and people who really knew what was going on. And they couldn't stop it and you know all that. And then the state of movies that came after that. And then this nonsensical book The Hot Zone. And then you had NPR and PBS chiming in with their which most people don't even remember now but basically the theme was if you want to take it to its extreme. We have to destroy modern civilization, right? Because modern civilization gives us modern communication and modern travel and therefore these diseases will keep on coming out of the deep dark jungle and will be unstoppable

55:47 So this plugs into the radical environmental agenda, and when I say radical you can underline that 75 thousand times. Which is modern civilization needs to be destroyed so that we can depopulate the planet take it back to whatever half a billion people or less and we have top of the line elite people living like kings and queens, and everybody else is like living at the bottom of a hill in feudal times. Bring all that back. Of course we do have technology but that's all underground and it's so... And we don't have anything unsightly above ground everything looks like a country club and is wonderful you know? We're talking about that! That was a big PR push

56:42 when the first Ebola thing was promoted back in the mid to late 70s, and now it's back again. So there are all these threads that you know are feeding into it and these are the agendas that are behind all this Yeah, it all just makes so much more sense to me now. And another thing I wanted to talk about is the CDC and this saga you've been following and chronolizing through your site of the whistleblower who exposed a cover-up of a link between the MRR vaccine and autism. It's very important because this calls into question the credibility of the CDC which

57:23 organization that's very heavily involved in Ebola and if they can't be trusted on one hand, why should they be trusted on the other? So can you kind of tell us what happened there with that saga. Sure first of all I've been documenting for years the incredible, I mean staggering lies of a CDC on any number of subjects that have to do with germs and vaccines all sorts of things. So yes, unreliable to say the least. William Thompson is a research scientist at the CDC who's been working there for 15 years and insider co-authored a 2004 study that was published in a very prestigious journal called Pediatrics that looked at a potential connection between the MMR vaccine and autism

58:21 measles, mumps, rubella vaccine. He became remorseful ridden with guilt anguished in the years following the publication 2004 because he knew that he and his co-authors had cooked the data buried vital data to come to the conclusion that the vaccine had no connection to autism. He knew this chapter and verse. He began to confess

58:57 to a couple of people, perhaps I think texting and by phone. Certainly by phone Andrew Wakefield Brian hooker some of those phone calls were recorded and Thompson eventually claimed that he didn't know that and you never gave us permission. I have my doubts about that but whatever anyway eventually it became apparent this August that this anonymous whistleblower on the phone who was confessing his sins, was William Thompson. And through his attorney Rick Morgan a very well known whistleblower lawyer in Cincinnati on August 27th, Thompson released a public statement saying if you just read the text we lied! We omitted vital data, we changed the protocol of the study

1:00:02 that had to do with a connection between the MMR vaccine and autism? Well, to put it in a nutshell because we only have a few minutes here. What Thompson basically was saying is I'm not just a guy who came in from the outside criticizing this study. I am one of the authors of this study! I'm an insider at the CDC and he still works there even today. And I'm telling you fraud not only that but in these phone calls Thompson has also admitted to fraud or not fraud, has stated unequivocally that there is a connection between mercury and vaccines and autism which the US government has denied over and over. I mean this is major stuff so what do we see? A total media blackout! This is an explosive story even because you've got somebody on the inside who was an author admitting fraud

1:01:10 research fraud. I have never heard of such a thing in all my years of covering medical issues, which is now 30 years pretty much right? Never an author not accused nothing just comes out and says I did it we all did it And our bosses told us to do it at the CDC Right, right So how many kids have been dying because they've been taking or you know incurring brain damage because they've been taking these vaccines since 2004, when Thompson could have gone public. In fact in 2004 and I can wrap it up with this because this is really the cherry on the cake around the time that this phony study was going to be published Thompson was also due to make a live presentation at a major vaccine autism conference CDC conference where apparently there were also going to be

1:02:15 members of the public permitted to attend. Thompson was nervous, paranoid to the extreme at the prospect of facing hostile mothers of autistic children. He wrote a letter to the head of the CDC bypassing his own bosses. At that time, the head of CDC was Julie Gerberding and he said look I am about to present troubling data on relationship between the MMR vaccine and autism at this conference. I want to give you a heads up, you've got to do something about this." We need help here so... This is a dangerous situation. Never got an answer and he never did make a presentation at the conference. Julie Gerberding, the head of CDC went on as CDC until 2009 when she left

1:03:20 and became the president of Merck vaccines, which manufactures the MMR vaccine. The very subject of the fraudulent study in 2004 now is that ain't a major media explosive story? I don't know what it is And if you covered that the way you're supposed to, by pounding on a scandal day after day and week after week. So many rats would come out of the closet confessing their sins eventually under pressure. Yeah I knew about it! Okay all right i knew about it and...and you know who else knows that? You would have just mean incredible but right you got media blackout on this total media blackout

1:04:16 So, reliable the CDC? Man! They are basically a PR agency for vaccines who claims also to be doing scientific research on vaccines. Those two stances are incompatible and so naturally you would expect fraud because the PR function is the major function The CDC sets the schedule of vaccines for children in the US. They promote the value of vaccines, they do heavy PR telling people to get vaccines so that's what they are.

1:05:05 And man, it's a fascinating story. And the only other points I know we're running out of time that I wanted to hit on that is that this Merck Vaccines company they also make the Gardasil cervical cancer vaccine which another whistleblower has tried to expose so now we're looking at two vaccines from the same company The head of the CDC now is the president of this company They are like the Monsanto you know, pharmaceuticals. Monsanto's working on the GMO weakening side of things and then this Merck vaccine company seems to be running parallel with them on the medical side. You bet that's a good epithet for them they are the Monsanto of the pharmaceutical industry. They and Glaxo. And all we have to do is

1:05:52 I mean just look up this is just surface stuff okay but if you just go to a search engine and you look up mercantile so in the find save had to pay out for lying and cheating and scamming and so forth and that's just, you know change them right that just the service what they're really doing is what we're talking about here. And to wrap it up with a final point and bring it back to the last interview we did, which was right when Snowden started coming out. We started hearing about him and you were very skeptical of Snowden in the whole story Well now we've been talking about whistleblowers who are talking about real serious medical concerns

1:06:31 and we're hit with a media blackout, and you and I were both saying that we are very skeptical of Snowden because we know how controlled the mass media is. And if they're willing to talk about it on CNN MSNBC and Fox News 24-7 then there's something not right about that story." So here we see the contrast between real whistleblowers who are talking about serious health concerns in the nefarious agendas of the elite versus a guy who is just telling us that they're monitoring us, which is something that most of us assumed was happening already. If that was legitimate he probably would be victim of a media blackout or killing like some of these other people Andrew Bypard or Michael Hastings and uh... That's kind of where you should look when you're trying to decide what's real and what isn't. Yeah it's a major tip off You know that scandal in this proportion is getting absolutely no media coverage

1:07:24 Like I say, I've been in the game for 30 years now. So I know what makes a potential killer story and I know how it can be covered and exploited and expanded on. And I know how many newspapers can be sold and how many hits can be obtained on websites for major media when they do cover a story of this proportions. But you see, they don't care about that. I mean the New York Times and other newspapers are going broke there in so much reading that they're refinancing the reading they're already in. And if you look at their like this, The LA Times Sunday edition which I used to occasionally buy it, I can hardly carry it to the car and now

1:08:19 You know, I can practically slip it in my pocket. It's so thin." They're just you know a story like this you would think well we could save our whole operation on this basis We could pound on this for two years Right But they don't Mm-hmm That tells you something This whole thing is a vast cover up It is man. Well John, this has been highly educational I'm so glad you could come and take the time to drop some knowledge on us And before we get out of here Would you like to tell the people about your website or some of the other work? You have out there Yeah No more fake news that comes a website and I have three major collections Matrix revealed exit from The Matrix and power outside The Matrix

1:09:08 People can read all about what these are. It's basically a deeper approach to all of this, it's saying okay look reality is being invented for us and not just little reality big reality everywhere reality how is it being done? What are the nuts and bolts of how its been done What does it look like when you see it in the process of being done? Right. To understand that at such a deep level and then, in the next two collections, Exit from the Matrix and Power Outside The Matrix this is now okay so how do you create your reality what's that all about what is that process How much power can you access in doing that

1:10:11 What does that mean there are many exercises and techniques that are. In these collections and of course the bottom line is how can you create reality in such a way, that it begins to tip the seesaw in the other direction so that more people become aware that reality is being created for them all the time. Because that is what the major, major operation on planet Earth really is and always has been and so I take it to that level. Meanwhile by going to No More Fake News you can read my articles which I write almost every day and sign up for free emails and so forth

1:10:56 Awesome, man. Well thanks again! Keep doing what you do, you're great at it It's an uphill battle and you're doing such a great job of shining the light on this serious dark spot I know I appreciate it Hopefully you can keep us abreast if any developments And we'll talk again as things unfold but until then take care yourself man Okay, Greg. Thanks so much I really enjoyed this conversation and appreciate it Me too alright have a good one You too man Well whoop there it is people A well researched well articulated response to the Ebola hysteria I know this whole area's just a massive knot of lies and manipulation And its real pain in the ass to unravel it all We're also concerned about our health and who to trust But we've caught these people in lies So we know that we can't trust them Unfortunately they are the only option

1:11:42 the only ruling authority in western medicine and they don't seem to be on our side. I've got friends in the medical industry who get really heated and sensitive about these issues because from their perspective, they've had all these years of study and training and then it's a real headache to get into a vaccine debate with the ignorant masses who from their perspective are putting the greater society at risk by not vaccinating but they don't consider The Source of all they know about medicine. They don't take into account that our educational institutions and medical industries are funded by super greedy society shaping elite, and they don't do it for the enlightenment of man they do it to control information

1:12:22 control entire industries, fields and schools of thought. So I'm sorry but I can't trust that education and I can't trust doctors who have been indoctrinated by it. Call me paranoid but there was a time when doctors told everyone that cigarettes were actually good for you because these doctors are only facades of educated and trustworthy medical experts And they are for sale to the highest bidder And admittedly, I don't know a lot about disease or medicines or vaccines but i know how to sniff out corruption and deceit. There's enough of it in the world of modern medicine for me just wash my hands of the whole damn thing and say you know what guys thanks? But im gonna take my chances with sweet mother nature for as long as I can keep your Rockefeller Medicine! And ill see ya next week with a full two hour show talking about Geomancy and the alignment of various man made structures throughout history with the true champion of that field Court Lindahl

1:13:11 Stay healthy my friends. Take me to the A's, take me to the G's. Take me to the S's, take me to the P's. Want you to take me to the I's and C's. Yeah! Take me to the hospital, cause it's a cut. Take me to the S's.