John Bush | Live Free Academy, The Techno-Fascism Era, & Sovereign Life Design

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01:36 The power of Christ compels you people. From sunny San Diego, I'm Greg Carlwood and I am both deeply concerned about the next decade while also being strangely optimistic Sure, we're entering into the age of techno-fascism where the technology has finally caught up to the irrational elite desire to control every minute detail of the public's lives. From instituting individualized lockdowns for exceeding energy caps and facilitating financial plug pulling for dissenting opinions... ...to corralling people into 5G enabled free range smart cities in which they'll never be happier But these actions are causing some seriously powerful reactions and decentralized solutions to the writing on the wall have never been easier to find. Thankfully, many people got a taste of just how vulnerable they were during the worst of COVID policy implementation have boldly said Never Again and have started working to increase optionality in education medicine food sovereignty financial autonomy online privacy and every other slice of the societal pie

02:37 And one of these important people that's with us here today is John Bush. Not only has he been a tyranny fighting activist for 20 years, highlighting the creation of voluntary alternatives to authoritarian institutions but he's also the co-founder of The Freedom Cell Network along with Derek Brose now over 34 000 people strong where like-minded liberty leaning folks can find each other and actually build back better He's also the man behind the Live Free Academy, a website that hosts educational workshops events and boot camps focused on helping people create more freedom and abundance in their lives with offerings such as the Homesteading on a Budget Workshop. The Great Financial Reset Response Webinar, The Free the Children Homeschool Summit, the Buy Land Build Community Boot Camp and more!

03:24 But that's not all folks, he also produces the Live Free Now podcast and is co-creating with Derek once again The Greater Reset Conference. Now preparing for its fourth event this January in which THC is a proud sponsor Encouraging you to take the boot off your neck, the yoke off your back and the teat out of your mouth. The techno fascism fighter live free Academy educator and decentralizer extraordinaire John Bush welcome to The Higher Side Hey thanks so much for having me what a great introduction Thanks for saying so man this is grea We set this up after my last interview with Derek. He and I have done a few, but after the last one it just clicked for me how great the work you guys are doing really is! I'm totally on the same page as you are and both of you guys are inspirational in making me realize that i could be doing so much more. I have this one iron in the fire and you guys have like five each

04:19 I did step up to be a sponsor of the greater reset, though. So that's a start. Hey, I appreciate that That's really solid of you and we're really excited have you on board and your message is solid too so We got a mutual admiration society going here Yes yes cheers to that so i thought we could structure this in a sort of problem reaction solution way going over the various categories that are important focus on. But to kick this off and sorta broadway i've heard you say that you think the capstone cabal really woke sleeping giant with coven policies and this technocracy talk,

04:56 And I tend to agree, but elaborate on that if you could. Sure well part of the work that i do and I think something that's unique to what I offer for this whole freedom truth movement has a lot to do with self-development and having what I like to call a sovereign mindset basically being in control of our mind And when we're in control of our mind, we can really leverage it to do some beautiful things for ourselves as opposed to being our own worst enemy which often happens with people especially when they're kind of terrified about this new world order thing. But I'm a firm believer in you know our perception is our reality and I am big fan of the law of attraction as well and the way that I view this whole COVID nonsense

05:38 I like to view it with gratitude because there were a lot of people that were slumbering and there are a lot of people that we're aware of this whole New World Order global agenda, right? But it wasn't until COVID came about and the subsequent lockdowns and increase in surveillance and the protests. And then the response to the protest that people really got active, they got activated. In fact the Freedom Cell Network we had less than a thousand people before COVID now post-COVID we have 34,000 people so like you said I've been studying this stuff for 20 years and back in the day it seemed like it was this far off concept that you know we gotta wake people up so we can prevent this from happening and then with COVID 19 and you know the powers that wish they were their response is pretty crystal clear that we are now in thick of it

06:32 There's multiple ways to look at that. We can feel victimized, we can feel disempowered, we can worry and cry and scream about it and whine about it or we can say you know what I feel blessed to be alive in this moment of history because I get to play an active role in the transformation of society away from tyranny away from control away from centralization of power and towards freedom, towards voluntary relationships and decentralized systems. And that's the way I choose to look at it and highly encourage folks to adopt that mindset as well because it makes a world of difference in not only your feelings and the quality life you enjoy but definitely adds fuel to the fire to get more active

07:17 Amen, Father John. And yes the urgency became quite clear so often we end up just waking up to some news like 9-11 and were now in the aftermath of something the elite have enacted and of course there's a continuum there with The Patriot Act and all that kind of stuff but often Oftentimes, events are quick and then we hear about them. We're like well that's suspect whether it's a mass shooting or false flag but COVID was something that lasted two years the policies lasted forever we had a lot of time to think about our vulnerabilities and then yes the urgency for change became quite clear once we got kind of out

07:59 of it, it was like okay well that can't happen again. Let's build systems that are better than that for basically all the different categories of life and we will have options next time around and I think that's a beautiful thing you know one of Things that are going around right now, the people are talking about is that Emily Oster article from The Atlantic calling for pandemic amnesty and forgiveness over what was said and done during COVID. And it's easy for people on our side of the fence to get frustrated over that. It's easy to go back and see that she was basically cheering on the firing of the unvaccinated and supporting making a second class citizens even

08:40 kind of not necessarily cheering on death, but definitely not having empathy for anyone that would have a death and then also not a jab. Just really cold hearted bullshit that we saw kind of across the board. But the beautiful thing about that article is that she clearly realizes she was wrong. She clearly isn't proud of her behavior in the wake of almost everything that we know at this point like the shots didn't do anything except open people up to a new range of health risks, but You know, I'm not saying that she or anyone else from that perspective should get a pass. But it's amazing that they're starting to at least sober up and ask for one. That alone surprises me and should be considered a step in the right direction wouldn't you say? Yeah, I'm with you. I think that article really struck a nerve with folks. And again there are multiple ways to look at it. The Buddhist in me would want to forgive and have compassion for these folks

09:38 Which I tried my best and I did have compassion for people. Anytime, I would watch the news or I would usually get most of my mainstream news in the car doing like the ABC News or the Fox News radio news spot but even still to this day they're still pounding on little cases flaring up here and there still encouraging people to take these shots and these boosters. But back in the day, in the thick of it of course, It was really intense what was coming out of the media And so for folks that believed the media For folks that believe in public health and Anthony Fauci as they've been trained to do their entire lives In government schools and beyond You know I had sympathy for folks They were terrified and you know people were dying right?

10:25 I try my best to have compassion, but at the same time there's certain things that took place. Perhaps the most gruesome of it all was preventing dying elderly folks from having their family at their bedside for their last breaths you know just tearing these families apart and then everything that happened to the children so it's like what they did to the children and what they did with the elderly you know, there's really no forgiving that. But it's important that we rise above and we try to be the best people that we can be treat others how we would want to be treated but yeah it is shifting and I think that's a positive thing and I remain optimistic in spite of their best efforts, in spite of being in total control of the media, the mainstream media

11:11 there was still massive pushback and massive resistance. And while many people did line up and go along to get along, to get those shots for example tons of people resisted. Tons of people resisted the point of losing their job because they wanted to stand on their principle not to mention if it wasn't for the success of the alternative media they wouldn't need to censor so all this crazy effort to censor on big tech platforms is just yet another indicator that we are in fact winning. So, that's the mindset I choose to have of it do they deserve an amnesty? I don't think so! I think people need to be held accountable and for anybody who was critically thinking it was pretty clear pretty early on that this was a fraud this was scam this was yet another play in their new world order play book

12:00 But yeah, I got a kick out of that article and i do think it is a sign of the times that people are finally coming around. BUT put people in a state of panic and fear once again! And I have a feeling the large majority of the public Is going to go right back to begging for their own slavery and harming and coercing those who aren't going along with it So as you said thats why its so critical we build these alternative systems so when this thing rears its ugly head again maybe its a different form maybe its a climate thing maybe its a false flag who knows we're prepared and we don't lose out on our freedom. Well said, and you're right there are layers to it I definitely think the perpetrators of all this should be in jail or worse but the Kool-Aid drinkers, the average citizens that just bought into it...I have a little more empathy for them On one hand I absolutely am frustrated with them was frustrated with them think they deserve what they get

12:56 But it's also kinda like i have an empathy for people who are brainwashed. I mean, its kind of like the denial of an addict or a cult member you could be their best friend and say look man you have a problem or you are in a cult and they're just like fuck you no im not you don't know what your talking about When they finally realize that maybe you were right a little bit, sometimes I don't really need them to make that clear. I don't really need this big apology and to make it a big...I just need to know that like you're gonna be smarter next time and That's kind of where i draw the line in the sand is I just felt very isolated in my friend group with almost nobody being on my page

13:37 So if half of them can at least come around and admit like, hey next time I'm gonna be totally quiet about things. I don't understand and i'm going to support your choice even if I fold and make the stupid choice and go with the system. I'm at least going to be open enough to support choices for people bold enough to make them like Maybe I'm hopelessly optimistic and maybe I'm just going to be like a battered wife getting beat up time and time again. But that's the place I want to try to bring people because the only power we have is our numbers, really? And so I want to increase those numbers at least if it's a half measure, I'll take it. Yeah, I mean, support for us would be good to our fellow human beings at the end of the day not be vindictive or bitter, because when we hold on to that resentment in those feelings internally

14:26 That affects our overall well-being as well. I actually have my 20 year high school reunion coming up, it's funny because when this first started popping off I was banging on what's really going on and the infection fatality rate, and they're not telling us about this or that. And the numbers... And it was pretty clear that it was certain populations a very small number of the population that was susceptible in the population that was most susceptible were people that were already ill sick had disease were much older right? A lot of folks that may have been susceptible to the flu or perhaps were gonna pass anyway right? So I noticed quickly like

15:03 all my old high school buddies and people that were just in circles close to mine, that we were friends on Facebook. Everybody pushed back and got real defensive and I noticed that they either blocked me or unfollowed me but I noticed over the course of a couple weeks all of a sudden I wasn't seeing them anymore so i think the algorithm was like we gotta protect these people from this crazy guy here they're obviously not happy about it what he's saying I don't expect a lot of people mainly because of their ego to admit that perhaps they were wrong or they treated people poorly. And that's okay, I don't really need them too but like you said, I do want to convey to my family and I do convey to my family especially who I care deeply about not to fall for this kind of stuff again and I hope that you lose trust in this public health institution and recognize that they are not looking out for your best interest

15:55 But at the end of the day, the whole COVID thing really helped me to see that there's this fracturing in society. I think that's a term bros used for it where we have these different groups. You have the masses, there was always been the masses. The masses never changed the course of history by the way they just go along to get along so it's not even necessary for us to wake all of them up in order to bring about change in this world and then quickly we saw there was a remnant that was forming. The people that rejected the status quo and more importantly the people that are willing to put the work in to rebuild society anew as it collapses all around us And so one thing you know i don't like to be tribal I love all human beings but I definitely have a greater tendency now. The circle the wagons to get closer to build greater relationships connections business partnerships opportunities creating systems growing food together,

16:46 with our freedom community because I think now more than ever it's important that we identify the people that get it, that think like we do and we start working together and building that trust together. Because at the end of the day, it's pretty clear that the bulk of the people in this world will turn against us if they are afraid enough. Well said! And another reason I have empathy for these people as they pull their heads out of the sand is because of the damage done. The clot shot story is not over and now they have a whole new fear to deal with if they're really still paying attention to the news,

17:27 It's just almost a meme at this point that the establishment will blame all these sudden deaths and cardiac events on anything but the shot. You see articles about not getting enough sleep causes heart attacks in young people, the sun can cause heart attacks in young people... The health authorities know everything except what's causing SADS- Sudden Adult Death Syndrome which makes you wonder what SIDS is too right? But hey We got high profile people like Ben Shapiro saying, yeah. I got that one wrong artists pulling their tour dates over health problems athletes drop it in the middle of the game. It's sad to see but we're trending in the direction of more and more people realizing they were tricked and lied to rather than less. But what are your thoughts on the true clot shot fallout? And the latest data that we're seeing like the latest things we're hearing

18:19 Well, there's a lot of people in the alternative media that were you know screaming that this is depopulation. The whole purpose of it is depopulation. There was all sorts of theories and frankly It kind of puzzles me that people in our movement are so obsessed with the vaccine still to this day To where they're like going as deep as they possibly can on graphene oxide or snake venom in the water was the thing for awhile and I just always try to focus on building and solutions and what can we do in order to avoid this type of stuff in the future is a fascinating body study of course but at first I was like no, I don't think that everybody's gonna die that took the shot like people were saying. But as time goes on it is becoming clear that wow like

19:03 I don't think we've even seen the full extent of the negative consequences that are going to take place. And remember, I think it was Dr. Sherry Tenpenny she was saying in reality the big gain here for the pharmaceutical industrial complex is going to come years from now when there's an increase in cancer rates when there's an increase in negative health consequences that's gonna create an artificial demand for more pharmaceuticals Western medicine so it's a damn shame and I think the most important takeaway as far as what can we do is just ensure that We're all in optimal health to the best of our ability. We're eating well or exercising Well, we're minimizing stress in our life And a lot of people get really stressed out over this stuff and they end up

19:48 feeling so overwhelmed and anxious, and like everything's gonna happen next week. There's a collapse happening next week September 24th or whatever they you know really reduce their quality of life And then they end up harming and tarnishing relationships with people that are close to them One thing I always try to convey is you know let's be graceful with one another and let's not let our differences and the way we think about the vaccine or this COVID stuff, or politics in general get in the way of our family relationships. Because really nothing's more important, in my opinion is that connection that we have with those that are close to us but I do think that we're barely even seeing the tip of the iceberg when it comes to negative outcomes and you know I pray and hope that isn't as bad as some people suspect it to be but with all these people that are just dying like literally falling and just dying out of nowhere

20:38 This could just be the first wave of the negative effects of this crazy shot. Mm-hmm, I'm right there with you and if you've tried that thing where you just put in The day's date or yesterdays date and the words died suddenly and just look at all the articles And they never ask hey Could it be related to that shot? But I think a lot of us tend to know that it was and then there's that new documentary died suddenly coming out I'm kind of psyched too see Either way, let's get into some areas beyond COVID. What would you consider to be the biggest challenges on the road ahead when it comes to Agenda 2030 and the UN Sustainable Development Goals? And how are you working to help people overcome them?

21:38 Okay, sure. Yeah I learned about Agenda 21 back in like 2010 or so 2011 and started speaking out at the Austin City Council because it was clear their comprehensive planning process and everything is Agenda 21 they're pushing for smart growth and stuff since then it's totally been infected and just about every facet of life especially government all these big maker corporations So, you know I'm a big fan of moving out of the big cities and into the country. We put together this whole summit it was the second time we did it were doing it again in May 2023 is called The Exit & Build Land Summit. And we do have to replay people can watch for free at exitandbuildlandsummit.com

22:20 But the whole idea was like, what can we do to help inspire educate and empower people so they have the equipment the tools and knowledge in the connections relationships to move out of big cities. And now into the country where they combine homestead or they can cooperatively buy land with one another And of course, my early assessment of Agenda 21 and the Global Biodiversity Assessment and all these compendium documents was that they are making a concerted effort to make it more difficult for people to live out in the rural areas. And oftentimes you know great lesson is whatever they want for you we should do the opposite right? They're like you'll own nothing be happy I'm like I need to buy some assets and get some land all this stuff right?

23:07 That's one of the big challenges I see, this whole agenda 2030 and sustainable development goals. smart cities, Internet of Things, Internet of Bodies interconnectivity through the 5G system. The surveillance society I think that it is going to be most impactful on people's freedom and privacy in the big cities already tyranny was most prevalent in the big cities not to mention crime and all these riots that broke out pollution traffic authoritarian police cameras already were all over the place but as this smart city agenda rolls out, this basically like Panopticon society prison city system

23:49 That's where it's going to be most challenging for we, the free people to live as free people. So I highly encourage people to consider at least moving 30-40 minutes out of a major city. I understand people have family, people have careers but if you're stuck in the city center or in an apartment complex near the big city or even in the suburbs You can expect that if crap really hits the fan and we have some sort of economic collapse situation, there is going to be a lot of trouble and chaos in that city. And then on the flip side

24:26 what I believe to be the more likely scenario than some cataclysmic crash that everybody thinks is right around the corner. I've been thinking that since 2006 and then it never really came, even the 2007-2008 thing you know was painful but it wasn't like Mad Max style collapse situation so I kind of started to realize that in fact the real agenda I believe is more of a gradualism Fabian socialism getting people to willingly accept it and the frog in the boiling pot scenario where before you know it over time, over the course of decades and of course this is supposed to be the decade transformation between now and 2030. They'll slowly and subtly roll out their agenda

25:04 But besides the prospect of a crash or collapse, that is where the agenda is going to be rolled out the most. So couple years ago my fiance and I we saved up some money. We worked real hard. We downsized and lived in 399 square foot tiny home with our two kiddos as a sacrifice so he could put together the down payment to buy 10 acre homestead. And since we've done that it's been incredible freedom that we experience The neighbors are totally down. They even spoke out against it, they're like you guys aren't getting that shot are ya? And we're like oh no of course not and they were either way for Christian reasons it's the mark of the beast basically and we're like yeah thats our guy right there great neighbors, no traffic got this really sweet office here that we run all the companies out of in a small town that we live near so

25:52 It's just a big difference, especially when it came to the masking and the enforcement of this or that. When you walk into a store is fewer and far between when you get out in the country so one of my big visions what I want to create in fact I've identified is to create an environment where the free people of our community can experience political autonomy, nothing short of self-governance. And it's my vision and my strategy that this is going to take place outside the cities where we all move into clusters perhaps near Morelia Mexico. Derek has got a lot of folks that are down there. We're here in Central Texas. The Free State Project up at New Hampshire has a lot going on there

26:35 and we link up, we build these alternatives. We exit those systems and build the alternatives that are decentralized, the parallel society idea. And eventually when we amass enough people, when we have the strength in numbers needed, we can effectively opt out of their systems and try to create an environment where coexist peacefully, but we're doing our own thing essentially. It may take decades or generations but that's where I see things going and that's why I'm trying to steer things personally with my life's work But yeah to answer your question, I think one of the biggest hurdles biggest weaknesses that free people that recognize what's going on are experiencing and setting themselves up for a lot of trouble

27:20 is if they reside in the city. So I highly encourage folks to consider coming up with a plan, doesn't have to be overnight, doesn't have to be even this year but come up with a plan so you can move outside of the tyrannical technocratic cities and experience much greater freedom and resilience through homesteading and growing your own food and getting off the grid out here in the country yeah we're gonna decentralize all the things one of those things his people so it's just like you know imagine a shepherd and sheep. He only really needs one dog to get all the sheet to go with her but imagine if they are often different direction i'm sure he would just throw up is hands me i gotta get a different line of work and i hope that happens with this agenda it's like if the,

28:06 crazy psychopathic idea of controlling every individual person is gonna be implemented its success is gonna rely on the herds and how many people stay in those heard so i definitely think moving out is the right move growing your own food living simply if there's gonna be another lockdown Well i guess it's a good idea to like where you are and who like the people around you because of their limit travel all that just insulate yourself into a place that you enjoy and i think a lot of people did that you know people moving out of these small apartments in getting some space between them, and the rest of the world so they could have some autonomy beautiful thing i hope it continues but.

28:48 You mentioned this homestead property and Derek and I did talk about this in our interview. You are actually one of the people living in that first Freedom Cells intentional community, what would you tell people about the experience? How it's going on this pilot property for anyone who is thinking about trying to do something similar? What are the things that maybe you didn't even realize until you were actually living that way? Okay, sure. That's a great question some came up for me though with the question what we're just talking about You know So the whole world economic forum they anticipate that there's people that are going to buck their system and get outside the city And in fact that article that started spreading around the World Economic Forum took it down from their website But it's still on Forbes calm and the headline was welcome to 2030 I own nothing have no privacy

29:44 and life has never been better. Well, you read through the article it talks about we digitized everything we don't own anything we just rent things when I'm not using my bike other people use it when I'm not sleeping in my home, it's not even my home. Anyone can come hang out." But there is a paragraph towards the end that says, My biggest concern is all the people who do not live in our city...those we lost on the way… those who decided that it became too much all this technology… those who felt obsolete and useless when robots and AI took over big parts of our jobs…. Those who got upset with the political system and turned against it....

30:18 They live different kinds of lives outside of the city. Some have formed little self-supplying communities, others just stayed in the empty and abandoned houses in small 19th century villages." I read that and I'm like, okay this sounds like a plan. So we can only hope that there'll be an element of being left alone and there's just kind- you know what's that show? It wasn't Judge Dredd. Demolition Man where there are folks who live underneath the street and stuff and kinda living squalor but they're mostly left alone either that or they're going to try to force compliance globally but that's definitely a big undertaking and lot of people give these clowns more credit than I think they deserve. But yeah we're trying to live it right so i try to practice everything I preach as much as possible Derek most definitely is practicing what he preaches way more than I am, I always applaud him and salute him for that like he has no taxes, no bank accounts all that stuff which has

31:14 It's some struggles, especially when you're doing business with the guy. But I salute him for that and something that we should all strive towards. But when it comes to walking the walk, we encourage people to move out of the city. That's what we did. We got a 10 acre homestead And it's a smaller home. We have a guest house and we have our first two community members, so it's our intention to have several people out there maybe plop a family or two as well because I have two kiddos so they can grow up together. We did learn that there are some limitations because of some of the county ordinances and what you can do with the septics and this that in the other but we do have two people that are both Freedom Cell members they both work really closely with me

31:54 one of them does a really good job tending to the property and he's putting a lot of work helping us to build out the chicken coop in some other food production systems on the other woman's another freedom cell person is like my right hand lady for our local freedom cell activity she works with me in our companies as well and you know it's nice it's nice to come home from work and there somebody sitting there in a little circle we got a little circle around a little fire pit if you wanna hang out and chit chat enjoy the nice weather you can do that. You know, many hands makes for light work. So we got this 10 acre homestead and we hardly use all ten acres in the least bit. In fact, we probably only use about ten acres as far as the food production and where we spend a lot of time. But if it wasn't for Brad who's out there all the time, we would be way behind when it comes to our food production stuff because I love my work but I spent a lot more time in the office than I do on the homestead. But because we have those people,

32:51 a connection and because we have a united goal, we have a common goal and common values. It makes it easier to succeed in our goals of becoming more self-sufficient, more self reliant. Self sufficient is really a misnomer because I just shared with you that I wouldn't be able to do it alone right? So its like the community sufficiency that we have going It is an intentional community. We don't own the land cooperatively, and it was our intent my fiancee and I in this first kind of experiment we wanted to be in control of the property. We have kids you know? We didn't want to go in cooperatively only to discover that perhaps there's some personality differences here or there but we are also working on creating an investment fund actually with the purpose with the intent of buying a hundred plus acres and fully developing a liberty-based

33:42 regenerative agriculture, natural building intentional community neighborhood of sorts here in Central Texas. I firmly believe that if we want to create freedom in our lifetime perhaps, or at least in our kids' lifetime what I call the confederation of Freedom Cell Communities is going to be a big accelerator of that. And it essentially lies in whether you have a homestead on your own but you're still linked up with your neighbors and the freedom people in the area Or are you bringing together 8, 20 however many people to cooperatively buy a larger piece of land That you all live on together In a true intentional community When those communities start to develop and start to grow, we link them up. We support one another this guy down the street has the tractor that we use whenever we need

34:27 clear out some of the land. The homeschool co-op takes place five minutes down the road and there's a family there that takes lead on the six kiddos, and they help them to learn about all sorts of great stuff entrepreneurship growing food academics these guys got the chickens but over there they got the goat milk we all trade amongst ourselves and like the world economic forum said we have self supplying communities And it's my hope that if we can decouple as much as humanly possible from the existing systems, if we can no longer rely on their electric grid. If we can no longer rely on their law enforcement. If we can no longer rely on any of their institutions or services in order to maintain a standard of living

35:09 then it makes it easier when the day comes that we declare our independence and opt out because we can make the argument that we're no longer using your services. Why should we be forced to subsidize them? Frankly, we want to have nothing to do with you outside of a little wave here and there but so that's my vision with the Freedom Cell, the Confederation of Freedom Cell Communities I think it could actually work Well it is a vision i appreciate totally an inspiration and i think a lot of people are thinking along those lines. And in terms of that little piece the article you read i do like that sounds like maybe to some extent they would leave us alone but, yeah i mean cuz obviously all we can do is gonna do our own thing and hope that doesn't turn into um...

35:58 You know one of these i can't even think of an example but we go yeah way to go situation i was like i just listen to like a eight hour podcast on the waco situation and i think it was called anyway. The financial freedom aspect is another thing I wanted to fit in here. Clearly they're going to tighten the screws, not only on people like us but also create a culture where people might self police the content they consume because of fear of repercussions we had that dust up with PayPal recently where they were gonna just take 2500 from people over funding misinformation and we had a mass reaction which is good

36:35 So they said they just put it out in air though I heard they just slipped it right back and quietly happens all the time there's a big reaction. And then people move on to the next thing and whatever they were upset about, it's in the terms of service anyway but then you got Alex Jones order to pay almost $1 billion for asking questions about an event It's like, okay. Is it illegal to be wrong? I mean regardless of what you even think about Sandy Hook is it illegal to be curious about details that don't match the narrative there really was no fallout for his position as opposed to like Bush and Cheney and their role in 9-11 and the weapons of mass destruction lie how many billions do they pay? It's such an insane thing when you didn't actually harm a person You just speculated about events

37:25 And then of course we're watching Kanye be canceled. So the info war is real and they are trying to cut us off from funding, but that's really just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to their plans for digital and programmable money. And you are in a pretty unique position to talk about the financial aspects because you also have a company called brave botanicals and you sell Kratom which is one of the things this system doesn't like And you've constantly had to find creative ways to stay in business. So, you've wrestled with this problem before it has started to reach the rest of us? What have you learned and what should the rest of us expect? Help us navigate this programmable money digital dollar situation."

38:08 Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because yeah my first successful company and of course success has a lot to do with persistence because I have two successful companies and we're starting a third one but there's a graveyard of companies and organizations before these ones that actually made it. But yeah so I sell Kratom CBD Delta 8 THC is the company called My Brave Botanicals website its mybravebotanicals.com And these products, especially the Kratom, the government's not very fond of them. In fact there is a program not very many people know about from the Obama era where the Department of Justice they instituted this program called Operation Choke Point and essentially they said that the intent was to limit payday lender money laundering in reality what they ended up doing was essentially

39:01 leveraging the federal government, which in turn put pressure on the banks, which in turn put pressure on the credit card companies to not process transactions with undesirable industries. Those industries include Kratom CBD Delta 8 cannabis head shops firearm stores adult toy stores gentlemen's clubs. These are some of my favorite industries here and here we have the government make I'm just kidding kind of getting but Essentially, they just pressure the credit card companies. So I started off doing this company in 2016 selling Kratom and I had a brick-and-mortar business that we operated out of and we used the traditional credit card terminal where you swipe and I would take orders online and then we would enter the card manually well my guy that handled my account came and said they shut the account down because it became clear that we were selling Kratom

39:53 So then I was like, okay well let me try Stripe. That got shut down my roommate's Stripe account got shut down Let me try PayPal at the time I created like five or six dummy accounts and people would place their order And then I would send myself a PayPal invoice rotating through these accounts now it entered the card info on the invoice in the amount of their purchase and that was actually about a pretty clever way to get around it but that got shut down My PayPal account got shutdown Cash app used to have a link you could send people where people could manually enter credit card number that got shut down as well. My girlfriend's PayPal account got shut down later on more recently I started another company Live Free Academy and I was able to start a new PayPal account and I was like, okay This is great because it's pretty convenient right? Well more recently I received a larger than normal payment for some affiliate commission for this promotion I did

40:46 and they ended up shutting my account down, not only did they freeze the money but they banned me just for receiving a larger than normal amount of money. So that was just a big eye opener and I always like i said before take these as opportunities to grow and learn so that basically forced me to redouble my commitment to helping people find alternative solutions So of course, in spite of all that stuff trying to shut me down I decided i was going to be persistent. I was gonna stop trying to deal with these little hacks and these little tricks to take credit card and instead I was gonna educate my audience, my customer base about e-check

41:22 So that's one solution, although as the CBDC rolls out this isn't going to be optimal. It'll just be tied in with the CBDC system but we do take E-check which isn't shut down that's where you do an electronic check with your checking account and rounding number And of course cryptocurrency because of the decentralized nature of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies There is no third party, there is no corporation. There's no board of directors that can be coerced and pressured not to do business with anybody. There's nobody that can get in the way of me and my clients doing one of these transactions which I think it a very beautiful thing

42:00 I've been doing crypto stuff since 2012, 2013. But rest assured that was just my experience before everyone started talking about all this CBDC stuff and before it became clear that in Canada for example they would shut down people's bank accounts for supporting a peaceful protest movement. This is the future that they all want for us and in addition to what I shared earlier about moving out of the city preemptively setting ourselves up so that we can opt out of and navigate around this central bank digital currency programmable money system is perhaps one of the best things that we can do. And I do have a few solutions that people can employ now

42:41 that I'd love to share with your audience. Yes, let's do it! Guys, I think the CBDC thing is pretty scary... The categories to all expenses, the idea being like you attended a protest via your geolocation and since we have access to your bank account connected to your geolocation You are now shut off from buying X Y or Z or your family used too much energy So you can't travel for 12 months or buy any more red meat? I mean these sound so insane, but the path towards them is being laid right now and we're being led right down it. Talk to us about some of your solutions

43:19 Sure, sure. I recently did a webinar is like a three-hour webinar totally free it was the great financial reset response webinar and i spent a lot of time talking about CBDCs but the replay for that closed but I opened it back up with a special link just for your audience so if people want to check out the webinar where break down exactly what were facing with this financial reset the financial aspects which most of the great reset is financial in my opinion has to do with economics But I opened up the replay for your audience to check out libfree.academy and folks can access that webinar, but basically what they're aiming to do is create an environment where they can socially engineer the public or they can threaten the ability for people to purchase certain goods and services in effort to manipulate their behavior to do things that they wouldn't normally have done

44:17 I study a lot of tactics and strategy. And when I study the New World Order agenda, I do so with an eye towards how can I protect my family from this? How can I help other people to avoid this nightmare? And I realized that one of their weapons, one of their tools, one of their tactics is put people in discomfort, to put people in pain. To threaten peoples' livelihoods to limit their rights and or privileges of course they think all our rights are privileged these days In order to compel them to do what they want them to do when it wouldn't have done said thing in the first place And of course we saw this play out with the shots So that's what gonna happen with CBDC system so in order to avoid that future right

45:07 I think it's critical that right now we do three things, really important things. Number one, we learn how to use decentralized privacy-based cryptocurrencies such as Monero. A big fan of Bitcoin, Bitcoin was the first cryptocurrency if people are to invest in cryptocurrencies, I still would encourage Bitcoin and almost entirely Bitcoin But that's for folks that are doing well. I don't recommend people that are on the come up or struggling financially to be putting any money into Bitcoin or cryptocurrency, I think they should be putting any excess money they have into themselves. It's the best investment anyone can make to invest in themselves. That means greater skills online courses training becoming better salesperson learning how to more effectively communicate and persuade. That's the most important investment but if people are doing well and got extra money then

45:58 Bitcoin is a good place for that. But nonetheless, besides investing in bitcoin what's more important now as things change is learning how to use cryptocurrency in commerce and I specifically say Monero as compared to bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies because many cryptocurrencies have a transparent and public blockchain meaning every transaction that you send from one address to another address on the bitcoin or ethereum blockchain can be tracked traced and surveilled So if you purchase cryptocurrency through an exchange that requires you to do a know your customer KYC check, meaning you scan your driver's license. That transaction is tied to your identity and so can the future transactions in the trail that Bitcoin leaves behind on the blockchain. The blockchain, if your audience isn't familiar with it, is just decentralized distributed database that collects the information

46:49 about who sent what to whom on a given cryptocurrency network. Well Monero has a completely private blockchain, all the transactions it cannot be known who sent what to whom how much was sent what the new balance is for both parties. It's all totally private and secret, and the government is not very happy about this. In fact they recently offered to pay a reward to a hacker if they could hack or crack Monero's algorithm. There was actually IRS that did that so you can tell their kind of little frustrated about this but anyway If people want to do business with one another online Monero and other privacy-based cryptocurrencies are going to be the tool to get that done outside of their scope. I still recommend people doing local barter networks, trading amongst one another, time banks, silver coins whatever it may be whatever suits your fancy but if we want to do business online with one another you better hope that you know how to use cryptocurrency before this all rolls out. Secondly i think its important for people to develop

47:52 a source of income that they control. We understand now that people's employment through big corporations especially You're susceptible if you have your entire sustenance provided by a mega corporation that can be easily leveraged or manipulated into forcing people to do things with the threat of losing their job. That's why I'm a big fan of entrepreneurship, it's very challenging and i'm not going to tell you it's easy but the freedom that comes along with it, the freedom to pack up and take a vacation if you'd like Now mind you, I've hardly ever stopped thinking about my business so one of the downsides is you can't just turn off the switch like many people do when they get home from their nine to five. But i'm in control of my money! I have a giant list of clients that I've done business with that I have trust and relationship and equity built up with that group of people So as things shift, as things change

48:44 I can continue to receive income from those people by servicing them and helping them to solve their common problems. If people have a full-time job or if someone's retired perhaps, you don't have to go full on running a business which takes a lot of work dedication and time but I would recommend at least having a side hustle. A side hustle is just something that should do on the side that allows you to trickle in maybe $500 or thousand dollars a month extra it'll increase your quality of life in your standard of living but also if you have to leave your job or if the social security payments that you're receiving all of a sudden are contingent upon you taking a shot, accepting some mark-of-the-beast chip or whatever. You'll be able to make an easier decision to say no because you at least have something coming in beyond their control and the final piece which is perhaps the most important

49:32 is that it's fundamentally critical that we all take proactive steps right now to build the counter-economy, as Samuel Eberkonken called in The New Libertarian Manifesto. That entails whenever we have a plumbing problem, whenever we want to hire a tutor for the kids, whenever we want do any type of service or good let us make every attempt to purchase that from within our community ahead of time We actually built like a Craigslist style Agora listing service on freedomcells.org and anybody can use it for free, freedomcells.org is how you join the Freedom Cell Network trade amongst one another, start building those relationships. Buy your food from the local farmer and talk to the local farmer about barter and silver." The idea is as they roll out their controlled central bank digital currency surveillance system to the mainstream we have already preemptively built our own economic connections our own parallel systems so we can continue to do business with one another without all of a sudden

50:32 it come in as a surprise and we're forced to scramble in order to make ends meet. All of these three things will make it easier for us to say no, to what they will be offering and still maintain some semblance of normalcy because we all like the squirrel stashing the pecans aside, we all did the work now before it was too late." Well said boom. I like it he likes it and I agree man, I think the audience is gonna appreciate that special link and I also just added Monero to the list of potential ways people can pay for the extended hour of this show I'm pretty much down with anything I barter with people if people have their own side hustles am I what do you do? You know Do you have something my wife or kid would like let's just you know, do it outside of the system like I'm pretty open because

51:24 Having this structure there's no cost to me to letting someone in as opposed to someone who is going to give me like a physical item and exchange for access to a digital product. It's like sure works for me it works for you or for me so yeah I'm gonna small taste of the economies outside of the economy's alternative transactions but it's just kind of sad to me that there is not more of it. It's like if I was cut out of the main financial system, the people who pay in Monero or pay in Barter are paying Bitcoin and Ethereum, it's not enough to even eat

52:02 So I would love to see more people on board to these alternative systems and support them because that seems to be the best insurance policy to the future that's coming. And like you, I see a lot of value in the crypto space. I don't know why anyone would prefer less options or rally against crypto as some new tool of the system when we've been using tightly controlled fractional reserve banking our whole lives? But what are your thoughts on the Alison McDowell stuff? I know she's proven to be a difficult personality, but I like to separate that from the work. And the work is great when it comes to human capital new financial markets trading on sustainable development goal compliance and blockchain being a big part of that not to say it's all bad but how do you see the cabal using the digital tech

52:53 and the blockchain to control us beyond just the central bank digital currencies, because this seems to get into education health and healthcare. Yeah she does do really good work and I still utilize some of her research to help empower my understanding of things but she is very very very opposed to cryptocurrency and blockchain technology in general You know, interesting enough because she does have such a bright mind. She seems to not be able to see the nuance the gray right? Same with all sorts of different instances and issues. It's not all good or bad, good or evil black or white there are some examples of nuance in the middle and I think cryptocurrency is one of these examples so on the offset I strongly believe it to be untrue that cryptocurrency Bitcoin specifically was created by the cabal

53:51 There's this white paper that the NSA put out decades ago, that people often refer to. But if you actually understand Bitcoin and blockchain technology and you actually read the white paper which many people don't they just read an article or a headline of course You'll find that the technology that they're speaking about in the NSA White Paper is not what bitcoin is it's lacking several of the key innovations that came especially the mining incentivization for people to verify transactions on a decentralized network, which is pretty freaking cool. So I think it's just the same with the firearm. A firearm is a tool that can be used for good you can use it to defend your household from attackers

54:31 Firearms have been used historically to rise up and overthrow tyrannical governments. The firearms are also used by tyrannical governments to oppress people, not to mention they're used by hijackers and rapists and all sorts of criminal elements but it's the tool itself that in many ways has a neutral ethics to it right? Same thing with cryptocurrency early on when I first heard about crypto back in 2011-2012 And then I started really diving deep in 2013 and made it one of the focal points of my activism. I was very optimistic, and back then we thought that Bitcoin is going to end the Fed And this is our moment in history where we end the central banks. Well, we really underestimated the central banks because they are now leveraging the technology essentially most Central Bank digital currencies people may not be aware it's not actually going to be utilizing blockchain technology rather is just a digital currency and most likely that the database will be centralized but of course their borrowing from that and in fact

55:29 The CBDCs, I think it was always an intent to have a cashless society controlled grid. Right? Like the Club of Rome has been talking about that for a long time even before the technology existed. I appreciate how you pointed out by the way that's something I often say that this New World Order plan has been underway for more than a century but now the technology is finally caught up with their diabolical aims and that's why it's really crunch time right now so I'm glad that you pointed that out in your intro But I think the CBDCs in large part came in response as a pivot, as an opportunity to try and present another thing before everybody just totally started adopting the cryptocurrencies. They are still coming but like you said Allison correctly points out that this global identity system which will go hand-in-hand with the CBDCs which will go hand-in-hand with your access to public goods and services transportation which will go hand-in-hand

56:23 analyzing education for the students and it follows you on, and your health records all this stuff. That'll go hand in hand with the CBDCs along with the social credit score system and the cabal of the fourth industrial revolutionaries that's the merging of biology and technology that Klaus Schwab is pushing for they most definitely are going to be leveraging blockchain technology for this digital identity system its because blockchain is basically a more effective and efficient means hosting a database, right? And so of course we can't put it past them that a new technology comes along that works very well. They're most definitely going to implement and use it however they see fit to further their goals but who says that we have to cede this technology to the enemies of freedom and a lot of people get caught up in this victim mentality where they say well they're gonna use it for this I've heard that they're gonna use it for that therefore its bad

57:17 As an empowered person, I say I recognize the power that this technology holds. Its decentralized nature makes it so that the 15000 nodes that are running the Bitcoin blockchain all throughout the world in almost every single country there's no possible way to shut each and every one of them down therefore this system is anti-fragile its going to exist no matter if government wants it too or not. I say let's utilize the system in order to create commerce channels that are outside of their system. And for the folks that are incorrectly, in my opinion deciding that Bitcoin and cryptocurrency is the enemy they're doing themselves a great disservice and the ultimate irony lies in the fact that it's decentralized privacy-based cryptocurrencies that are precisely going to be our greatest tool to circumvent the Mark of The Beast system They're not the Mark Of The Beast system they're the answer to the Mark Of The Beast system

58:12 i would challenge folks to reconsider their opinion if they are the people that throw the baby out with the bathwater because blockchain technology is being used for malintent over here, it can't possibly use for good purposes privacy freedom financial freedom over here. I would really challenge people to revisit that i did a whole webinar also on cryptocurrency was like four hours and i specifically broke down a lot of these objections people have they can turn it off when they shut off the internet it can be hacked A government can just make it illegal. It's not secure, right? And so I did this whole webinar buildwealthoptout.com and I especially would challenge folks that are just completely out on Bitcoin or cryptocurrency to give it a shot to watch it because I really make a strong case on how its going to be this tool, this liberating tool we get to be the ones to decide if

59:05 if it's used for good or not through our actions. So let us take those actions because when the CBDC system is rolled out, I promise you it's going to be the only way we can do business online and there's not a damn thing they can do about it so yes its being used for digital identity, it's being used to analyze, track and trace impact investing and all this other great reset funding type stuff. But it's also being used by me to send money to Derek Bros without anybody being able to do a damn thing about it. It's also being used by me to continue to do business with my clients helping them with this incredible natural health product. And its been used by free people all over the world to operate outside of their purview. That is very beautiful things

59:51 It is, it is to use a phrase that I often use. But man, this has been a lot of fun. We covered a ton of ground as we are pulling this thing together. Talk to us about the greater reset conference and some of the speakers that are going to be there. I'm going to try to make it to the Texas event but i do have some other commitments right around that time so i'm not sure how it's gonna shake out happy to be a sponsor though appreciate the hookup on your end and um yeah just tell us about why it'd be a great place to go Sure. So yeah, the greater resets taking place January 18th through the 22nd 2023 it's our response to the great reset agenda so as we first started learning about the Great Reset Agenda of course it's basically the same agenda as before I like to call New World Order 2.0 because of the whole fourth industrial revolution aspect

1:00:45 But me and Derek were like, you know all the people are doing is just talking about The Great Reset. They're just pumping out articles and little documentaries and videos and we're like what if we brought people together and presented an alternative to The Great Reset? We called it the Greater Reset so the whole idea is to bring together activists entrepreneurs visionaries permaculturists technologists People doing incredible things in the world and have them present their ideas with a focus on solutions. So more so than calling it a conference or festival, like there's a lot of freedom events already we call an activation that's the type of event it's an activation

1:01:26 It's an event that is deliberately designed to get people more active, taking greater action towards the creation of a better world and of more freedom. So we're really excited this will be the fourth iteration it's broadcast live online anyone can watch absolutely for free through community service that were doing to try to help improve the world but people can join in person either in Bastrop, Texas here in Central Texas. My business, Livery Academy and the Central Texas Freedom Cell Network will be hosting that event or down in Morelia Mexico Derek and Ramiro are hosting that event and the cool thing about this event is I do a lot of events myself and it's easy to do an online event. It's easy to do an in-person event. It's a big challenge to do a hybrid online in person

1:02:17 And it's most definitely a challenge to do a hybrid online with two separate in-person venues, one in Texas and one in Mexico. But what is really special about what we're able to pull off and I think that something that very unique and again its all about empowerment We've got some really great speakers this time around. We are going to be joined by Tom Woods author activist he's got a real big solutions focus nowadays with this time would school life. Glenn meter the privacy action plan mark moss is a real good financial analyst pushing back on the great reset my lovely fiance will be there christian westbrook speaking jack spear go,

1:02:55 Texas Slim, of course Derek, James Guzman. My good friends Richard and Imani they do Haven Earth PMA Natural Buildings. Sayer G will be presenting Alex Zeck Paul Wheaton of permies.com he's a big Permaculture guy And perhaps our biggest headliner of course is the one, the only Dell BigTree he'll be presenting as well. So we're super excited to be doing this people can get more information at TheGreaterReset.org. TheGreaterReset.org again it's January 18th through 22nd anybody can watch for free online but I highly encourage people to join us in Texas or Mexico because the energy in the room when you bring together this many freedom-loving people and they're all

1:03:34 focused on co-creating a better world. It's just the empowered people coming together to plot and plan, they have their little plotting and planning meetings in Davos and all the Bilderberg stuff well we're having a plotting and planning meeting so we can create more light more freedom more joy more abundance in this world And anybody could be a part of it. Again, you can check out the website at TheGreaterReset.org and I highly encourage you to sign up for our email newsletter to stay on top of the latest updates. I love it! You're just doing so many amazing things. You and Derek as one-two punch of freedom is just really great. It's just... To me when I keep saying this at the end of these interviews but we're reaching a six figure audience right now and if even

1:04:22 5% of those people were like, you know. I've been listening to this podcast for a long time hearing from all these individuals who are doing great things the Jim Gales the Whitney webs you can take any one thing and be like, you know this is going to be my expertise and i'm gonna drill down on it i'm gonna expose it i'm gonna educate people on it and then i'm going to present them with my entrepreneurial solution whether it's a book on the topic a course So many things. And if just 5% of the audience did a quarter of what you and Derek do, my God that would be a lot of action in this space and I really hope that people instead of being just passive listeners...I mean i'm a passive podcaster! I do my show and I retreat back to my safe space and I just hang out with the family

1:05:15 consume terrible media. And I could obviously be doing more too, I'm talking to myself as well but you know for the passive listeners out there it's time to stop being quite so passive and taking all this knowledge you've gained and the unique alternative perspective that you have in a sea of sheep and do something with it it, you know? Really. And you are another inspiration in a long line of people that have been quite inspiring lately and we obviously got to save a little room to promote the other things you're working on. Brave Botanicals! The classes, the courses throw out all that other stuff people should know before I cut you loose. Of course if there's any other upcoming courses and workshops let them

1:05:59 Sure, sure. So we talked a lot about the financial aspects of the Great Reset namely the central bank digital currency system I'm very alarmed with what's to come and i'm doing everything I can in my power to share knowledge and effective strategies for people to preemptively opt out of that nonsense. So, I did this really awesome free webinar recently we had a just a short replay window but in anticipation of this podcast interview I decided to create a special link or just your audience. I mean, they could share it wherever they want of course but it's just for your audience to watch this replay once again. I covered some really solid material and above all else I think it was incredibly empowering so people can step out of the fear space and also just the overwhelm of not knowing what to do there's so much information coming at us all the time. I really break down some concrete practical proactive steps that people can take

1:06:55 The website for that to sign up for the webinar for free is livefree.academy slash THC, livefree.academy slash THC We also chat about the Exit and Build Land Summit if anybody's interested in homesteading moving out of the city Learning exactly what that entails That's another free summit people can watch the replay exitandbuildlandsummit.com I love it if folks just wanted to keep up with me. I do a daily email newsletter with a lot of fun information and cool stories. That's libfree.academy slash email, libfree.academy slash email and if anybody in the US wants to try some really high quality CBD Delta 8 THC my favorite are the blueberry gummies they're the bomb 25 milligrams I just have a little slither but for seasoned cannabis users you could take a whole one and be pretty lifted that website is mybravebotanicals.com In fact

1:07:47 People can try five gummies for free. You just pay $5 shipping and handling, we'll ship it to you. Free D8gummies.com. Free the letter d the number eight gummies dot com. Five dollars shipping and handling will send you a free five pack And then also people can try Kratom for free. That's this plant medicine, helps people with stress and anxiety, helps people quit drinking, helps people quit hard drugs too. That's FreeOunceOfKratom.com. That's my plant medicine company Bray Botanicals. And then finally you can watch for free absolutely free or better yet there are still tickets available For the Texas experience or the Mexico experience, I highly recommend you joining us in person. Or at least check us out online The Greater Reset for co-creation is taking place January 18th through the 22nd. Thegreaterreset.org is the website and Greg, I just want to thank you once again for supporting us financially with your sponsorship makes a big difference in the success of these events so we can reach more people and bring in more incredible speakers So thank you so much for helping us with that

1:08:51 Of course man i'm just trying to get my toe into being a little more involved even if i can't be there in person at least you know i'm on their and spirit. And i just love to see successful entrepreneurship merged with no conspiracy slash freedom slash truth whatever you wanna call it, back in the beginning of this show twelve years ago even before that i go to some of these conferences and they just had a really sad energy, do them these conspiracy cons and stuff where a lot of these authors are struggling defined and audience send it just really kinda wasn't environment of success.

1:09:30 And i just feel that changing of course it's always been the criticism all these people just wanna make money will ya don't you too when you want to love me that criticism against someone i hope what your doing for your income is as aligned with freedom and truth and all that kind of stuff and rarely so I love to see when the two can be merged. You can actually make a good living and be on the right team. You don't have to just work for some shitty insurance company or sell cell phones or whatever it is you do so. So, uh, I just think you're a great example of that as well and thanks so much this was a lot of fun your passion and action are contagious and i'm glad we got to do this happy to be aligned with you and Derek keep up the great work thanks so much for having me

1:10:18 Heck yeah, John Bush ladies and gentlemen. I would say he crushed it! And i do this kind of thing every once in a while but it was pretty obvious that I was trying to do a good job getting John's perspective while also shoehorning in a lot of recent news and stories that I haven't really been able to find a place for on the THC airwaves I do this when we have a good Jack of all trades kind of guest and were not doing a deep dive into a specific study or book. And, I might even say listening back that I get too conversational for my own liking. Part of me does just assume that were all reading the same news as time goes on but there are always comments about how i don't or won't talk about something

1:11:10 And usually it relates to recent news which just never makes it into somebody's book until further down the road and most of our guests are. The result of having a book out so yeah buncha people have asked my thoughts on the we need a pandemic amnesty article, And funny enough, that woman also wrote a book about it being okay to drink alcohol while pregnant. Why should you make any sacrifices ever for any reason? But it just goes to show that she's clearly very good at reading well-established scientific data relating to health and I figured I could just bring that article up with John because he is following the news regularly and has something to say about pretty much everything

1:11:59 And of course I think the people who carried out this pandemic should be in jail or worse, that should be the most obvious thing ever. I'm only saying that i have a little grace for the everyday person who drank the Kool-Aid. I think they're naive and a bit dumb for being so trusting of the establishment but if I were to cut out anyone who got vaccinated or strongly encouraged me and my wife to get vaccinated or heavily judged us and even in some cases uninvited us to events I'd be writing off about 70% of friends and family, and i'm sure that's true for a lot of us. And I think that's just a lonelier world that I don't want to live in. Dare I say that 70% need people like us in their lives even if they don't know it? And I also wanted to give a little bit of air time to the fallout from the VAC so far The data on mortality rates and wild increases across the board It's undeniable

1:12:57 The shot crushes the immune system and thus all sorts of conditions manifest. I think it's becoming more and more clear, but some people still live in a fantasy world where they believe the original lies about the shot still hold water even all these months later! It is quite crazy... And then of course Alex Jones was another thing him being hit with another couple hundred million just since recording this interview For asking questions about sandy hook i think the total is now close to one point three or one point five billion absolute insanity. You know of always been a bit suspect of alex jones i think he feels an archetype of a crazy over the top conspiracy enthusiast and that personality type and tone, has advantages to those who want people like us to look crazy in on hens so in that context it's not impossible to me that this is

1:13:54 His fulfillment of another role, an example to the rest of us showing us what will be coming. Another possibility is that he's just a discarded asset and the hammer coming down is just what happens when they've used you and usefulness has run its course I consider these possibilities along with the possibility that it's also genuine It's a range and I'm not sure we can ever really know for sure but it is a wild thing to observe Nobody being held accountable for the weapons of mass destruction lies. Nobody held accountable for the banking lies and corruption and over leveraging in 2008. Nobody held accountable for the LIBOR scandal, nobody held accountable for saying you should get these vaccines and you will not get COVID! Obviously all lies that did far more damage than asking questions about an event that seemed fishy... That's just the world now I guess

1:14:49 Look at Kanye, another situation that I'm not exactly sure how to process. Some claim this is being carried out to start a new kind of race war between black people and the Jewish community? A conflict that would see a lot of regular people taking the brunt of rage against an elite class that is too protected to pay a consequence And to me that's just a perspective to keep in mind and we'll see if that kind of conflict and race war ever even manifests. But otherwise it seems genuine, I just don't understand why it's such a slow drip? It's like every few days Kanye says a couple sentences that are really explosive but if the financial damage is done and he's acknowledged this is dangerous stuff to talk about

1:15:39 Where is the thing I'd expect to see where he just goes live and talks at length and in detail about the people in the contracts He keeps referencing. He's got his Instagram account, he's got a Twitter account And he uses it to say one sentence every couple of days and then Goes back to living his life? I guess now exposing the text from his trainer was really interesting where this guy said if you want I can just have you taken back to the hospital where you'll be in zombie land forever and not see your kids or something like that. And then this guy happens to be a Hollywood trainer with a military background who also worked for aka handled Brittany Murphy and Mac Miller yeah, that was explosive

1:16:24 Just the other day saying that his mom was a sacrifice. Yes, an explosive statement we've talked to guests like Jay Dyer I think and Isaac Weishaupt for sure about that very thing but i would think a person in Kanye's position could and would want to do a lot more it just seems like drip drip drip Just enough to have people continue talking about it. Similar to how Trump would say some explosive statements and then back off of them or never really elaborate and truly make his case. I guess that is just all to say that i think the system allows for pressure valves once in a while without even going as far as i would suspect if it was all organic and genuine

1:17:11 But I'm just a guy trying to make sense of the big circus as best i can through what I read and the conversations that I am lucky to have on this show. Did you hear what Dave Chappelle said in his new SNL monologue? When they're black it's a gang, when they're Italian it's a mob and when they're Jewish it's a coincidence and you should just never speak about it! And I kind of think that's like the perfect way to phrase it We can voice and address concerns about other types of groups controlling any type of enterprise except one. If someone says, hey I think the mob was involved in killing JFK it doesn't imply they're racist against all Italian people and the same logic should be followed through about any other similar situation. Man this is really getting away from what we talked about in this show with John

1:18:04 But there's just a lot of little THC related news threads out there and none of them really deserve a two hour deep dive, but at least they deserve a little commentary right? Alright. And we won't even elaborate on the fucked up California laws I mentioned or talk about the FTX scandal...but yeah i've been following that one too And anyway, what I like about Derek Bros as well as Jon is their commitment to solutions. Their refusal to get caught up in the weeds arguing about small details and instead saying yeah well... What should we do to live better freer lives? They've been very successful! I would say they've pushed things through on the solution side further than the conspiracy culture has done in two decades

1:18:51 We get so caught up in the littlest details about what we think we know and we don't say, hey broad picture yeah were all right. Now let's try to stay a few steps ahead if we have the Intel lets use it The ways we live need reflected our diets are online behavior and our transactional behavior its all important if you wanna dive deeper into john's free great financial reset response webinar he open it up with that link that he mentioned live free dot academy slash thc, and i can tell from digging into john's work at his website city gets really into the data and analytics all the sorts of stuff that i neglect but should do better with.

1:19:37 So it seems pretty clear that he's trying to find a way to gauge the response from this interview and see how impactful the THC audience is. Let's blow up that link and show we are a sizable, passionate audience! The description for the webinar says Free Training Webinar reveals three secrets to surviving the controlled demolition of the economy & beating parasites in Washington & World Economic Forum at their own game This is a proven path to surviving the economic crap storm we're in and coming out of it even wealthier and more financially secure than ever without bending the knee to globalists. While I am sold, sounds like material that we could all benefit from! And the link is right there in your show notes if you are listening in any apps

1:20:27 So big thanks to John. I hope i can make it to the greater reset activation in Texas, I would love to meet John and Texas Slim both in person and they will both be there along with a lot of other great guests that will be giving presentations digitally or going to the Mexico event But speaking of events, let's look at the THC meetup calendar. If you're feeling motivated to find the others obviously the Freedom Cells Network is an option as is HiresideMeetups.com It does not matter what brings you together just that you build a better network of like-minded people as we go into...an era of darkness let's just say

1:21:10 But November 13th, which is today we have the Utah Higher Sides Athena Beans Bistro meetup and then November 16th the Seattle THC Inquisition coming back around. November 17th the Sacramento THC Meetup at Q Street Bar & Grill. November 18th Discover Durango at The Smiley Cafe Meetup in Durango Colorado November 20th, the Bridgewater Triangle THC meetup at Bartlett's Alehouse in West Bridgewater Massachusetts and filling out the November calendar. We have a November 22nd event in Frederick Maryland at The Old Mother Brewing Co I like it that's a good amount of events and a lot of places where you can meet others that are just like you and like to talk about the same topics and are on the same page with a lot of stuff

1:22:05 So, I love it. And that said it was a good interview today! I'm glad I finally got to meet Derek's partner in crime and talk to him and pick his brain about all kinds of different stuff. I think he has a great robust library of classes and webinars and boot camps that can be helpful to all of us. I hope you had a good time listening and feel motivated by John's words I've done my part and i'm getting out of here. Your move great resetters, techno fascism facilitators and world economic forum agents. And every one of them

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