55:16 Yeah, I would just like to start by saying that it's very important to understand the conceptual framework here. People have a tendency to understand what reverse psychology might be but we have a tendency to fall into dialectics very readily But this is another area, conceptually intellectually where the Russian and the Israeli sphere and especially the information warfare narrative warfare spheres are very much not only parallel but related. And that going back to the origins of the political Zionists Herzl himself in his diaries talking about
55:56 the anti-Semites will be our best friends." And this was literal because what we saw was that the political Zionists needed to drive Jews wherever they were, whether they were from Shoah sphere in Europe during World War II. We even have now records of FDR's Jewish deputy going to American Jewish Zionist alleged community leaders saying, FDR has a plan to save up to around 1 million of European Jews to not only the United States but allied countries and then being called a traitor to his face
56:38 by these alleged American Jewish Zionist leaders because that would take the Jews from Europe off the table from their actual project to push them into Palestine for their ethnic cleansing project and all of that. And so we saw even after Israel was created, that Israeli intelligence orchestrated what we might now see as just anti-Semitic terrorism, is the way it would be called. Especially in the Mizrahi Jewish world and especially in Iraq
57:14 In North Africa, throughout the Middle East we saw targeted terrorism by the Jewish state intelligence forces against Jewish communities directly creating a sense of anti-Semitic terror in order to drive Jews to their project in Palestine. So we see this and so it's become very obvious that anybody who has done any research about the background of political Zionism that at the same time as you have the alleged king of the Jews, Netanyahu proclaiming to be the greatest defender of Jews worldwide. He represents an actual deep political network that also was very likely involved in the death and destruction of Jews in their own local and regional communities including I would say on up through things like September 11th
58:06 which was done at the epicenter of the American Jewish homelands to some extent, in terms of lower Manhattan and close to Brooklyn and all that. And a few hundred Jews were killed on September 11th. Then Netanyahu basically danced on their graves the next day in The New York Times by calling it basically very good or at least that will generate immediate sympathy and all of that while then using it as a way to browbeat the American Congress Hindbrain feared to toward his clean break wars led by the United States in the Middle East. But the same kind of dialectic, weaponized dialectic exists in the previous Soviet and Russian sphere where you have what you might call the pro-Semitic and anti-Semitic almost always in total parallel
58:57 And it goes on even Putin himself. Remember this infamous moment after the 2016 American elections where he basically said, if Russia was involved... It was sort of echoing what Trump had said. This could be anybody who is hacking in the United States or doing influence operations on our elections. It could be a guy in his basement or something like that and Putin said these might not even be ethnic Russians as what he was saying these could be Jews or something like And a lot has been made in the so-called alternative media to prop up Putin as some kind of anti New World Order leader of the axis of resistance or something like that by talking about the way that he basically disciplined, imprisoned, expelled
59:43 a handful of Jewish Russian oligarchs. Okay, that is the case but meanwhile and after that he basically just disciplined the Russian deep state and facilitated the usage of many other Russian Jewish oligarchs to serve the larger Russian deep state. And then in terms of Jewish community life, Putin has made a direct relationship and has helped catalyze I would call the most reactionary of organized political Judaism, which would be the Chabad Lubavitch movement. And so now where as Russian Jewish life was a little bit more diverse in certain ways—in a similar kind of way that American Jewish life is fairly diverse in terms of the different kinds of Judaism that different American Jews may be associated with or practice
1:00:42 Russia was sort of similarly diverse in a certain way, and now we're at the point where Chabad Lubavitch is the almost the totality of Jewish life in Russia. And Putin has a very close relationship with these Jewish alleged leaders, and we have of course his what was called Putin's rabbi Barel Lazar who is very deeply involved especially in terms of this axis that you opened this show up about in terms of the Tel Aviv, Moscow New York access. That's the conceptual architecture that I think we have to keep in mind is that the Russian sphere and the Israeli sphere both have a long term history
1:01:32 and architecture of using both sides of the so-called pro-Semitism, anti-Semitism dialectic for their own deep geopolitical ends. And so that's a lot of what we see with certain people such as Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens maybe specifically – they're very very Russian sphere and so as they turn from the commanding heights the Zionist media power in many ways and begin to turn publicly against Israel, watch especially in terms of how that is related to their obscuring of the facts around the multipolar world order or the Russian sphere.
1:02:13 and how those almost are inverted in a certain way. And then you can begin to sort of pick up on the deeper geopolitics of why you might have people beginning to come out and heavily criticize, in often very legitimate ways the Israeli massacre of Palestinians, the Israeli domination of American geopolitics and all of that but doing it in a way that also seems to serve Russian multipolar world order deep geopolitical interests in a larger informational structure. And one real quick follow-up I think a person that could be seen as
1:02:59 maybe instructive Jeremy and you would agree with me on this I think would be the figure of Jackson Hinkle. Jackson Hinkle is somebody that, you know he's what self-described MAGA communist i think that's how he describes himself and interesting like he was really boosted and propped up on the post Elon twitter now X algorithms post October 7th as like this leading critic of Netanyahu in Israel you'd see him everywhere but before October 7th you know, Netanyahu is good for the multi-polar world order and all of this. So I think that's an instructive one would be a figure of Jackson Hinkle. I haven't kept up with him in a little bit but i know like what he was doing in the aftermath of October 7th and how it in some ways kind of differed from his attitude toward things before that when he was boosted big time by these social media and he really took off in terms of being like a quote unquote thought leader in terms of hey I'm the guy on the front lines of criticizing The Zionist Project and what its doing
1:03:54 Yeah. Interesting yet it seems like they throw people out there, they light a fire or they see if it catches and if it doesn't, then they are you're out? You didn't catch fire. We gave you every opportunity we put you in front of all the screens and you know, you didn't click so maybe he's one of those guys but yeah, they're always throwing new people at us and trying to compromise us and trying to find that sweet spot where we actually trust again and They're good at exploiting it, no doubt. So to go back to the idea of this shadow network—I mean you're pretty good at mapping out connections people don't really think about or know about very often—this whole idea of bringing the Jews back to Israel... I guess I'm just curious… I want to know the history and all that stuff because I really just want to understand the goals and motivations like it always kind of depends on in the conspiracy world who you put at that apex of the pyramid
