Isaac Weishaupt | | The Diddy Trial, Travis Scott, & The Dark Enlightenment

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01:28 To us just don't know to what degree. Where would we be without THC? The Higher Side Chef Show! Are you not entertained from the Sunshine State, I'm Greg Carlwood and many people have grown up with dreams of living the high life as a film star in Hollywood or a famous musician buying into the seductive allure of the artistic archetype and fame and fortune that comes with being anointed by industry

02:05 Because for many years it's been presented to us as pretty much the only real way to make it, as any sort of entertainer. Yet the more we learn about that life, the less appealing it seems to be and beneath a thin facade of material success in the fleeting rush of fame lies a darkness that few others will ever experience where the very gatekeepers to the industry, the predatory agents and managers entice young naive talents to sign away their future wealth while at their most desperate and vulnerable And the public is presented with a perpetual pipeline of sexually abused, mentally damaged and ruthlessly controlled celebrities who live like cows attached to a never-ending milking machine by the teams around them. And when you see this darkness and its effect on those embedded in it... The seemingly wild claims that the entertainment industries in the modern era—and maybe all eras are primarily culture creation operations mind control projects and occult indoctrination rituals

02:59 Doesn't seem nearly as wild as those claims did a few years ago. And what used to seem like innocent artistic expression appears more like a vehicle for sophisticated subconscious manipulation and deep psychological programming. Well, few researchers focus on these things with the level of commitment you get from today's guest Isaac Weishaupt I've been a fan since i read his book Sacrifice Magic Behind The Mic and did our first interview about it back in 2014 He's been on THC a total of five times previously over the years and become a digital friend I enjoy writing co-pilot with on our strange path through conspiratorial commentary. Some of his other titles include A Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory, The Illuminati Ancient Aliens in Pop Culture, Kubrick's Code, The Star Wars Conspiracy Hidden Occult and Illuminati Symbolism of Aliens & the New Age

03:48 The Dark Path, conspiracy theories of Illuminati and occult symbolism in pop culture. The New Age Alien Agenda and Satanic Transhumanism Aliens UFOs in the Occult Use Your Illusion One Aliens UFOs In the Occult Use Your Illusion Two UAP Disclosure Spiritual Warfare And Manifesting Extraterrestrials Through Entertainment This guy knows how to load it up with the keywords! And he also has use your illusion volume two Symbolism in Film Manifesting Extra Terrestrials and more You also know him from his podcasts, Occult Symbolism and Pop Culture and Breaking Social Norms. And you can find all that and more at illuminatiwatcher.com Here he is the pop culture occult commentator satanic symbolism sleuth and true Illuminati watcher The man who knows the plan Isaac Weishaupt welcome back

04:35 Greg, man. Thanks for having me back on and always with your glowing introductions that's great it's a pleasure to be back on this wonderful show you were my one of my earliest interviews back in the day and I'm super honored to get back here and be invited back multiple times so it's uh It's great to be back with old, old friends that have been around this game long enough that I trust who you are and your intentions and things. Cause I can't say that for everybody in the conspiracy world there's a lot of wacky kind of strange psyoppy misinformation folks out there. Yes. A lot has happened in the 15 years that we've been in the game but it is just the old nine to five for us now. And I'm psyched to be doing this again with a familiar face so

05:18 It's great to always look for a reason to have you back. And this one was the Diddy Trial! I guess, for me...I was looking at this stuff it was heating up they threw out a little red meat for us but then it seemed like it fizzled out and I don't know what you think about it but it felt like maybe it was just a limited hangout show trial to some degree You followed it a lot more closely. What's your assessment? Was there anything really revealed that maybe someone who was watching more casually would have missed? Did he has a long history of allegations and sort of adjacent conspiracy topics, so when we saw this trial coming down I think a lot of us thought like this is going to be a real moment of change in the world. We're gonna start

06:08 holding these people accountable for their crimes, it seems like he got off the hook basically. But if you followed the transcripts because I was reading through the court documentation every single day for maybe four or five weeks six weeks maybe that the trial went on it was interesting to me because It seemed on the surface there wasn't much happening here but if you read through what was being said who is saying and some of the ideas being presented It seemed to me what we had was a bit of a revelation of the method concept going on here because a lot of the conspiracies about Diddy were more or less proven during this trial.

06:47 And I think that is part of the agenda. But, ultimately what they were trying to do is... There's a lot to go through maybe we should start with my observations in the trial if that works for you. Diddy is facing life in prison and we all kind of thought he was going to get it He was in the Southern District of New York which has some kind of high 98% success rate sentence for racketeering, sex trafficking and those sorts of things. Tenny Garagos he said I think it was Tenny she said shoot She's Mark Garagos his daughter Mark Garagos the famous attorney who did the Menendez brothers Michael Jackson Keith Rainier from the NXIVM thing so Tenny was defending Diddy and she says is it a federal crime to love baby oil? And that as

07:40 as funny as that is and how headline catching that is, that's kind of where they took this. And that's basically how they won I mean...I say they won but you found them guilty on like two out the five counts I is his sentence is going to be in October, I'm guessing he's gonna be out right. Right? What was interesting leading up to all of this the reason we thought we were going to get some serious dirt was because We have all these multiple lawsuits like low rod who was diddy producer for one of his recent albums And in that lawsuit, that was the most damning of all of them. Lil Rod was saying that Diddy was basically running an Epstein operation He literally said that in the lawsuit you can download and read it... ...and he was implying that he would do these sex parties and videotape it as blackmail Amongst a bunch of other allegations like how one time Lil Rod said that he saw Diddy

08:38 Sort of cover up a shooting by sort of. I don't paying off the cops is the right term but it's sort of like he had to end with the cops and was able to serve quiet things down alluding to you know some kind of, connections that he had and amongst other things which we can come back to later this idea of like Robin Greenhill and Lou Taylor how they plug into all this. Like all this stuff was listed out in the Lil Rod document, and I thought oh wow were going to court now? This is gonna be interesting right? Including Lil Rod accused Cuba Gooding Jr. of sexually assaulting him, and a whole bunch of stuff like crazy stuff and we got exactly none or any of that discussed at all in this trial but that's not what he was on trial for was the little rod thing He was on trial for sex trafficking and racketeering running his business as criminal enterprise Right specifically Casey Ventura and Jane I don't think we know who Jane is still right?

09:37 Right, yeah. There was a handful of anonymous sort of Jane Doe's that were there. There were several girlfriends... There were several people that worked with him and one thing you notice when with almost all the people is they would talk about how terrible Diddy was and how abusive he was but then in the next breath they were sending him happy birthday cards and talking about how much they loved him! And it's like a real crazy Like it just shows you the power of fame, and how these people were susceptible to some level of mind control. It seems like one of the persons even said that he had a alter ego like he would dissociate and become angry which I don't know how literal to take that my conspiracy brain goes to sort of MK ultra type stuff

10:26 But it was said about a lot of things were said about him, including LAPD officer Israel Flores said that did he looked devilish at one point in the trial. He told I've got it in my notes somewhere. He told one of the people that worked with him how he was the devil, like he told her that tour and there was a lot going on here so Cassie was the big part of the show and she was the first to take the stand and it's supposed to be this sort of bombshell part of the trial she was pregnant and they were like oh we gotta hurry up and get her up on the stand because she's about to deliver a baby and I think that was all timed perfectly for maximum sympathy towards Cassie right?

11:08 She was talking about how her interpretation of the events was that she signed on with Diddy. She had a nine record deal, which they released one of them and never did anymore so her job started to become sort of sex slave and doing these freak off parties and how she is suing Diddy because she alleges that he basically forced her or coerced her, I should say maybe into taking like just tons of drugs. There's two C drug and ketamine and like crazy amounts of drugs ecstasy all the time. And she incurred all these sort of medical issues from these freak offs you know UTIs and sores in our mouth but then the defense they laid out their argument which was that she was a voluntary party to this whole thing

12:01 It's not Diddy's fault that she fell in love with him kind of thing, which is kinda weird. It sounds like domestic abuse stuff. Well, like you said they have these text messages and stuff They can lean on to be like where she says oh I can't wait to have a freak off And it's like yeah the allure of I have to suck up to this guy even though maybe I'm mentally breaking my understanding is that yeah essentially like you said the defense was Look he might be an asshole He might've hit a chick or two he's not on trial for that He might have liked orgies, not a crime. Specifically these crimes you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and these text messages that say oh I can't wait to see at the next freak off party that's reasonable doubt so like all of these situations

12:50 The offender, you know they can claim well they're just trying to get my money. You know I got hundreds of millions of dollars everybody's trying to get money. You liked it at first suddenly don't like it what's going on? So I get that but what I think is so interesting is that Maureen Comey You know, she was the federal prosecutor for both the Diddy and the Epstein cases. And surprise surprise they both kind of went nowhere! Then she got fired by the DOJ so I knew...I saw the headline that she got fired but She was fired July 17 and thats two weeks after the Diddy trial ended. I don't know if there's anything significant about that If there is some reason you think

13:31 It might have resulted in her firing. To me, that's more about the Trump stuff like he is going to be going after her father for the election stuff He is trying distract from Epstein with this stupid election stuff People are bored with the election interference story Every elections interfered with As far as I'm concerned But yeah, that's just some of the stuff I thought was interesting. And I'm curious what you think about not only the fact that they get... They always have their person in place right? Like okay we're going to do a show trial they're going to contain it to just the parameters in which we've set but like the same prosecutor for Diddy and Epstein you gotta think that's a red flag! Right.

14:12 This does feel like a sort of show trial because Maureen Comey, of course the daughter of James Comey and James Comey. We talk about election interference back in 2016 like a week before the election he made this big to do about how the FBI was investigating Hillary Clinton's email servers or whatever when that was a big issue that was the whole reason you know Trump was saying lock her up is because she had this illegal email server thing right James Comey was one of those like right before the elections, like you know what she does and we're going to investigate her. And then later after the election then they were like okay we found nothing she's fine and it's like well that sounds like election interference to me so for Trump for Trump yeah and September

14:55 was a dick someone found a photo of James Comey on his Instagram not too long ago where he had These rocks on the beach. Have you seen this? Yeah, it said 86 45 8647. Yeah, which is like well he's 45 and 47 but yeah so it's like basically kill 86 means to like it's off the menu or kill it or whatever like it seemed like a veiled threat and the guys that had been head of the FBI I think he understands coded language and reading between the lines and veiled threats And that was that someone found out that was the eight he posted it on the 8,647th day after 9 11 2001. Kind of weird stuff but yeah Maureen Comey she worked at Gilead trial and the belief is that this firing had nothing to do with

15:45 her botching Diddy's case. I've read different theories that allegedly she is the one handing over all these files to The Wall Street Journal for Rupert Murdoch to run this sort of smear campaign against Trump, so this gets into weird 5D chess political territories the known as like the elite of prosecuting attorneys for criminal cases, which supports my sort of idea that the trial wasn't necessarily to get Diddy to go to prison. It was more about revealing a lot of these conspiracies that we've heard over the years, which is where when you talk about Trump this goes into that Jonathan Adi guy right? Yeah yeah so John Ady was a guy who was arrested back in 2018 he was at

16:45 at the Trump Hotel in Miami shooting at cops. And when he got pulled over for questioning, the video interview with him says about how he was a sex slave for Diddy and forced to have sex with Cassie which everyone was like well that's insane but it kind of splashed on the tabloidy news right? And by the way, he's still awaiting trial seven years later which is crazy. I wanted to just jump in now that you mentioned him because i looked into this guy a lot because i was just curious at the time how does this police interview leak? We never see police interviews leak and this one has like the juiciest stuff ever and it just seemed like it was set up that way but

17:26 I was looking into this yesterday, getting ready for this interview and news nation actually interviewed John Oddy recently from jail. And he basically just said the same stuff with a few new details. Did he called the mail stripper service that he worked for and then paid him $800 extra to take it into drug fueled sex with Cassie while Wow. In his interview with NewsNation, Adi said his mental health is improving. And this is the quote basically the day the incident happened at Trump's Miami hotel I had taken medication. I think I was bipolar but I wasn't sure and I had an episode and basically I've been taking my medication now every day and I've been stable. I have no issues in jail

18:40 I have no bad incidental behavior in jail and i'm feeling ready to come out in society and be a productive member once again. Uh, I think he's still got some delusions if he thinks he'll ever be free again because he's being charged with felony attempts to murder law enforcement officers armed burglary and armed grand theft There's also an episode of jesse webster's law and crime where he says cassie confirmed I We know a lot about MKUltra and the way they mentally fuck these people up, and the damage that gets done. And for him to say like the day I did this, I took some medication... Where'd you get that medication? What was the medication? Was it prescribed by a doctor? Which doctor? Was it your psychiatrist who else is on his client list now all these questions

19:36 Should unravel, but yeah. I just thought that little bit of added context was interesting because it is one of the most provocative tangents of the whole Diddy saga and holds more weight now that Cassie testified on the stand that Jonathan Adi was definitely at the freak ops and even filmed it. Okay good like that sort of confirms the story you know cause why would she say that under oath? But yeah, when he was arrested at Trump Tower. He was saying all kinds of crazy stuff about Trump and Diddy and stuff like how did he was gay with Rick Ross and DJ Khaled? And how they do satanic rituals and even even talked about CIA MK ultra stuff which is interesting now that you're telling me that he's said he was on a prescription drug in these You know,

20:25 sort of had mental clarity now or whatever. But he and any implied Bohemian Grove stuff, blood sacrifice messing with kids and all kinds of things but it's really weird because the actual document of his arrest... He says all kinds of stuff that's sort of contradictory. Trump is a traitor, Trump is Hitler. But then during the interview he talks about how Trump used to belong to the Illuminati but now he's not and they're trying to assassinate him which was ironic because like Later there was these alleged assassination attempts. Yeah, I have my doubts about but you know i'm a conspiracy guy so I've doubts about everything Another thing is he said was that diddy was a member of the boule right the supposed african-american branch of the Illuminati That that LeBron James has tattooed on his chest And I don't know like this this guy could he could just be you know having a mental break He very well could be but he during that

21:28 interview at the police in 2018 he talked about Mark Garagos which you know is Tenny Garagos's father and how They drugged Michael Jackson and and basically killed him for the royalties on the records. So it's just so strange I don't know how to make heads or tails of it He doesn't seem to be a reliable sort of witness But he does sort of tell the truth with a lot of things, so I'm not really sure how to what to make Of all that because he says in one breath. He's a Trump supporter than the next breath. He's calling him Hitler It's really kind of out there, but the point remains is that there are some grain of truth about what John Nathan Alde said which makes you think maybe we should listen to more about what he has to say. And it depends on how far you want to take that.

22:16 But one of the other things go ahead sir I just like that the whole situation the whole dust up got people to look under the rug Of all these speculations it made it seem a little more legitimized even if we don't have a conviction, I guess we have a kind of light conviction but But just like, why did Diddy have a teenage Justin Bieber over for a secret recording session and then buy him a car after? Why were Diddy and Ellen such good friends. Why is Ellen's TV show set Epstein's temple. You can really draw a circle around all these people and then there is that video we talked about last time where Diddy had an adopted little white girl who looked really scared, he was hugging her and stuff like why are you adopting her to help her? Why don't you just help her family?

23:10 It was super strange, but you can draw a line around all these freaks. Yeah we didn't get any clear proof of any of the sort of more wild accusations that are going around that seem to be holding some weight one of the things because as you know right? You talked about our first interview we did about my hip-hop conspiracy book Sacrifice Magic Behind The Mic We got more confirmation so Jonathan Addy talked about how there's this sort of hip hop police connection and how they use hip-hop as a way to traffic drugs for the intelligence agencies or whatever through private jets. And this is definitely a thing, right? There was that whole movie about Barry Seal with Tom Cruise... That whole movie was about that idea. There's the Clinton scandals about this kind of thing

24:01 But in the rap community, lots of these rappers have private jets. You know, Jay Z does Juice WRLD had when he died he had 70 pounds of marijuana on his private jet I mean that's 70 pounds of marijuana like he wasn't just smoking that was right That was trafficking and what's interesting is that NBA Youngboy who's like a newer rapper The younger people love him He got arrested for trafficking cough syrup. It was funny because when I did, I was covering the Diddy trial on my Breaking Social Norms podcast and I talked about NBA Youngboy when we talked about Jonathan Adi and I said how I think NBA young boy must be a fed or an informant or something because he's got a massive rap sheet full of felonies then he gets arrested for this drug ring of basically writing phony prescriptions for cough syrup

24:56 And out of all that, he ends up with a little bit of probation. He's got years of charges of firearms drug offenses assaults robbery kidnapping attempted murder and this guy is just like basically on house arrest and I say that then the next week NBA boy NBA young boy got arrested again for gun charges again and he was in doing a prison sentence. I don't know how long a year or something like that Trump pardoned him that next week. Wow, it's like kind of which kind of confirmed my suspicions I'm like this guy's got to be a fed or an informant or something now people online claimed that the reason he got a pardon was because Trump was selling a crypto coin and

25:39 supposedly NBA Youngboy's mother bought a coin for some exorbitant amount of money and when you have the coin that gives you access to Donald Trump, allegedly as they say. And that is why it happened I don't know...I can't prove any of that but thats what they say Oh, that is an interesting little saga for sure. You wanted to bring it back to Robin Greenhill and this Taylor fella? And I wanted to let you do that so there's a lot of stuff I hope we can we can there's a Travis Scott update there's all kinds of interesting stuff but tell us a little bit more about Robin Green Hill and Taylor here yeah So the quick version so on that Lil Rod document he calls out Robyn Greenhill which was

26:21 Diddy's financial manager. Also, Lou Taylor was the business partner at TriStar Sports so Robin Greenhill and Lou Taylor's name they come up a lot they came with a lot in the Free Britney situation because I guess that was they were the ones that coordinated the conservatorship And in fact, Britney Spears even had said something on Instagram about Lou Taylor and Robin Greenhill trying to kill her. Now she was going to sue TriStar for it. Yeah the Lil Rod called out Robin Greenhill for allegedly sending money over to these sex workers that Diddy would hire from which by the way also came from... The male sex workers came from Jigalos, the show on Showtime which

27:03 I mean, that's what saying a lot of this stuff like there was nothing like super obvious. But I think if you start unpacking little pieces of it, you can see there's weird things going on with this whole gigolo thing. It's Cowboys for Angels was the name of the What do you call it? Like a male prostitution thing and then Armani So TMZ posted about this when it dropped because I had watched the show Jigalos on Showtime, or yeah Showtime. And Vin Armani was one of the Jigalos and Vin Armani is now a...I don't know, I don't want to call him a conspiracy theorist but he talks a lot about conspiracy, spirituality and crypto on Twitter. The Holy Trinity! Yeah the Holy Trinity And he was pictured on the team's e-thing so I was like wait are they saying Vin Armani? Was one of the dudes that were showing up to these parties? I don't know but Oneofthegigalosash He got...He is doing 20 in prison for assault or murder I should say murder One of his clients there is a documentary about it But the whole gigolos thing Is also kind of strange which

28:04 You can't and this is where things also get weird right let's talk about the jiggles for a second because one of the Jane does testified said that i name don. Came over from from the gigolo show and i look that up google ai tells me, that don is the name for garen james who's the owner and founder of jayla i can't prove that this was good way i said with no link. For me to click approve that i don't know where it came from that same jane doe said that, the parties were called freak off her they were called hotel nights and if you recall i believe we talked about this last time i was on your show

28:44 there was this woman named candy michelle johnson who wrote a book called the adrena krum which and she was making wild claims about diddy back that before like john oddie back before anyone sort of. Thought it was real yeah and she had us shit is set up bunch of books as she written, And I say books, some of them were manuscripts. Some of them were scripts. Some of them were like short stories One of them was called Hot Nights with Cassie or Hotel Nights with Cassie Which now that i see a testimony that says Diddy also call these things hotel nights? I'm like dude this is this Kanye Michelle Johnson she was for sure she claims she worked for Diddy

29:24 She must have been working for Diddy. How did she know all this beforehand? She also had an image on her Instagram of baby oil back before anyone talked about this So there's something weird with that. I think I lost my... We're talking about Rob and Greenhill, right? Greenhill was alleged to have been putting surveillance equipment into Brittany's phones in her houses and stuff which makes me wonder about Diddy because he had all these surveillance cameras that no one really seemed to talk about during the trial and she was also part of getting the medications administered to Brittany. That takes me into some of the stuff, like you mentioned John Otte said he was having mental issues with prescription drugs and stuff well Kanye West also was talking about how he was on lithium and had all these issues and then Jamie Foxx also said the same thing. And Jamie Foxx was the cameraman for all Diddy's parties from the 90s right?

30:21 I don't know how the mechanics work. I'm not in the inner circle of that, but there's something strange with all of that and then Lou Taylor is she's also managing The Kardashians and Kylie Jenner And she was part of the whole stink about Kylie Jenner becoming a quote-unquote self made billionaire which turned out to not really be true and during the trial there was an article on media takeout that said Diddy also doesn't have the money that because they say did he's like the I don't know second wealthiest guy in hip hop. He's a billionaire and they said, well that's not true either so it just makes you wonder like do these people really have any money or is everything just an illusion? You know right you kind of need to hold it back from them to have the leverage because I think that's the big game is that these people are leveraged by their teams

31:10 You know, whether it's the Harley Pasternak trainer guy or the manager or the agent are all of them working together. All these people are highly controlled and compromised that like I said in the intro, they really are milked like cash cows you get them young and you say, Hey we can make you a star But you're going to have to sign these agreements where we are going to end up getting the best deal out of this. And then, We want to milk you for as much as we possibly can how many times do we see these tours and these artists are like checking out for exhaustion? You think they're doing this because they want to the average person sees that and like oh I'd love to have a lifestyle like that going up on stage at the arena

31:50 And you know, having the crowd cheer my name. Not really it probably gets old very quickly and they work harder than a lot of regular nine to five people and it's because they're forced to because they are the cash cow for the teams. And I just yeah now that we're getting more into this stuff We know now that we might not have known when he wrote that first book It is way more about drugs and just controlling their prescriptions and getting them on things. Why don't you go see our psychiatrist we have on staff? They'll hook you up, will help you deal with your fatigue and your anxiety." Yeah it feels like it's coordinated in a way to keep people

32:28 Keep the hamster on the wheel, right? To sort of keep making money for these people. So it is kind of sad, right? Yeah and you can't let them have all that money and they don't really have it a lot of times we just see them in music videos or we see them with the chains like this like they have access to nice things that they can wear and be presented with and nice cars on lease But do you have the cold hard cash to quit the industry? That's where I think you're right. Like they don't have as much as they say, or they would just live their life. My wife was telling me she saw a video where they were saying about how it works on the inside that these celebrities artists and such there'll be wearing luxury branded stuff and have these chains from particular jewelry makers but all of that stuff is gifted to them right

33:17 And it's not money that they're getting. They're just getting like these lavish things and we see this, and we think they're buying these things, and that's not really the case so... It does raise a lot of questions like how much money are these people actually making? I don't know because there is a lot everyone knows There is more going on behind-the-scenes entertainment than what we know The one interesting and kind of funny thing That I found that I wanted to bring up before we move on I know you want to move onto other topics John Otti He claimed that Donald Trump had performance issues because he's on Propecia. And what I thought was interesting, because there are all these connections with Trump and Diddy right? Trump was up there defending Diddy and there is all this footage and photos of him hanging out with Diddy forever and they even considered pardoning him Don't ask me how that works because just a few years ago I think Diddy was endorsing Hillary Clinton or something like that

34:08 but whatever. During the trial, there was an article in TMZ about a new lawsuit against Diddy and the woman claimed that did his penis was the size and shape of a Tootsie roll right? God And I can't help but see these all these like abusive men have weird like penis issues like Hitler supposedly did Harvey Weinstein did Epstein did and now Diddy. Yeah, right? All these guys have these strange and I don't know if that's which one had the egg shaped dick was that okay yeah egg shaped okay it just makes me wonder about like the psychology of these people like maybe they're not able to find a healthy way of channeling you know the frustrations of that issue right and now we've all got us sit back and watch them do horrific things to people i don't

34:58 No, it wouldn't be interesting. I mean obviously we know there's a big network that goes back further than any one person but just the idea that all these people all this fallout is just because somebody had a dick issue and while normal people are out there just getting laid having fun in their college days these people are instead toiling away how can i make enough money that I can make good on all the stuff I missed out and no one's going to be able to care or say anything about my weird dick. Right? That's what, that's what it seems like and you know, that's just a hot take throw in there Yeah, I mean it is interesting and on the subject of Trump like I definitely am not in this like tit for tat. Oh is that the red team or blue team? They're all dirty who cares? I do think it's interesting though to watch The Epstein story because it was always so lumped in with The Clintons and the Democratic establishment And now the whole focus has shifted Trump is the one client of Epstein's Like It's basically just so weird

35:59 The, the whole thing with the modeling. It does go back very far and it is a strange relationship and I'm on board with the fact that they're probably both on that plane and both guilty of some unsavory stuff when it comes to Clinton and Trump but I found out a little bit more about the claims of his first wife recently. And I just want to throw this out there. I'm sure it's old news and people know but she said under oath, I believe this was during maybe not under oath, but during their divorce proceedings in court She said that he raped her. And I knew this came up in the movie, The Apprentice that they made a little while ago and obviously that's a huge claim and then it's like well you can't rape your wife people say stuff like that. Well details of the story is that apparently he got...I say this because you mentioned the alopecia thing or the propitia thing but he got a scalp reduction surgery to try to close the bald spot

36:53 I know about bald issues and how it can get in your head. You do some desperate things, I'm sure. I just wear hats you know it's a lot easier but he did a scalp reduction surgery to try to close the bald spot and it was a doctor that she recommended and apparently it was very very painful so he comes home and he's in all this pain and he is like you stupid bitch! You're the one who told me to go to this guy and then it escalated into a rape a rape scenario and he pulled out a clump of her hair. And was like, do you like that? Cause that's how I feel right now. And I was like, wow, that is insanely brutal. And then apparently she fell down the stairs and died and no one really knows what happened. She's buried on his golf course. Oh yeah. I was going to ask this is the ones buried on the golf course. Yeah

37:38 Oh my gosh. I never heard that before. Yeah, it makes you wonder if all this psychosis is just ego issues and that would make sense because these people that are this drawn to power and wealth its, uh, I feel like there's like some demons in there right? Yeah. It's either the dick or the hairline maybe both luckily only got one problem but But let's move on to the update on Travis Scott because this leads us into a whole rabbit hole that I was so interested in, because it's basically like a Pizzagate kind of a loop. But nobody talks about it. Everybody knows Pizzagate. This is almost the same thing involving strange art, involving a woman who's basically an Abramovich clone, like an archetype of the old witchy lady who's involved in art

38:29 Anyway, so this was basically two interviews ago. We did in 2021 when Travis Scott had the astro world ritual thing and the whole stampeding of the crowd. And since then, there's been a Netflix documentary on this situation and my understanding there is that based on what I saw you cover your analysis is that it seems like they're trying to peg it all on live nation and do a little damage control for him. But there's a lot more to this thing in his Apple contract and talk about, talk to us a little bit about the Travis Scott updates, the astral world updates. So, so Travis Scott

39:09 is a he's a guy I've been covering for you since, I don't know when he when he first came out. He's a fine enough rapper like I like his music well enough i'm not like a huge fan i'm also not like one of these guys who thinks he's overrated I think it's pretty good actually like this music but he's always had strange You know some people would call artistic stuff in his videos, I would call it a cult stuff like the one he's doing the grand hailing sign of distress of Freemasonry while he's wearing a shirt with an inverted pentagram that's on fire. There's a lot of alchemy symbolism that he puts in his videos with the black bird and all kinds of crazy stuff so when he was doing the Superbowl I was like oh this is gonna be good right? And then

39:52 2021, of course we have the concert which was just I mean just a field day for me with the satanic symbolism as we talked about. Oh! I should also mention Lou Taylor manages Travis Scott too by the way. Of course, of course So there was a Netflix documentary that came out recently and there were some interesting things that i found on there where the photographer For live nation they told her they wanted her to go do photography at the astral world concert right and They said they wanted photos showing how crazy the fans were and she wanted. They wanted photos of the fans Rushing the gates and all this stuff because I want to just sort of you know promote

40:38 things the concerts and such it was interesting because the that's exactly what happened after world they charge the gates. And broken down and that's one of the claims about why this thing went wrong is because there are too many people there, anyway they broke down against my girl any people in dinner tickets apparently And it's almost like what if i was program one of that was done on purpose to kind of like the beatles right there is this beatles propaganda, are them coming to america and these these girls screaming at the airport and screaming at the ed sullivan show when. the conspiracy is that the manager for The Beatles was hiring these girls to scream and act like they knew who The Beatles were, kind of like the idea of buying a Russian bot farm for social media now. That's kinda our equivalent today is to drive likes and comments and stuff that aren't real but that's what made me think of it and it just points to another idea of the entertainment industry having some kind

41:38 Some kind of manipulation involves some kind of deception on some level and his concerts over the years he's he's excited a lot of sort of violent behaviors as we talked about last time but during the i didn't realize this but during the astral concert twenty one his first song that came out to was escape plan and. Because they played a clip in it and then it dawned on me and hit me the lyrics It talks about opening up the gates at the very beginning of the song And that's what the whole ritual of the stage was. This portal opening up through the energies of the crowd and the portal is to hell. And that's supported by a variety of symbolism, and the most damning is this freaking shirt Travis Scott wore showed a guy in blue like a stick figure in blue going through a portal and coming out red with horns

42:30 right? And then people pointed like the dove on fire coming out of this, this mountain that was on the stage. People say there was all this crazy frequency music happening that was making people feel uneasy before the show because because there were two stages and Travis Scott his performance at the mountain was the only performance to happen at that stage so as the documentary points out all the other acts were done in this other stage and when they're like okay it's time for Travis everybody to migrate over to this new stage of the mountain and that's where. As they are they indicate a documentary that for the problems started because people, do you need to find one side of the stage but anyways it made me think i was like ok so

43:16 they couldn't eat they had to sort of consecrate this mountain stage and it could only be used for travis scott like a ritual that, this is the head of soul purpose like just seems kinda weird me also the people that shows the left hand path the lefthand of the stage with one set that died by the way yeah i was where when he comes like left hand path. occultism and things like this. But what happened in 2023 prior to this documentary, what happened in 2023 is that there was all these lawsuits against Travis Scott and he was cleared of wrongdoing. And there was a police report released that showed he had a contractual agreement with Apple that he had to finish that show

44:03 purse. His spokesperson claimed he did not have the authority to stop the concert even if you wanted to I don't know if I believe that, you saw people literally screaming like hey people are dying here and you saw... He literally stopped the show at one point because there was an ambulance coming to help somebody out so I mean I don't know the legalities of it but that's what they claim is oh he's innocent because he couldn't have done anything anyway But what was curious is that this the Houston Police Department report that finally dropped in 2023, dropped the same exact day that he drops his Utopia album. Which

44:42 I don't know what the angle is there. And I just think it's really weird, dominating the news cycle probably. Yeah, could be that right? Could be like that day you search for Travis Scott and is like Travis Scott's got a new album. Don't look at the police or it's hard to know what to believe when he was supposed to do an album launch at the Pyramid of Giza that same day. But the people over there called him a Satanist and they canceled it Live Nation does damage control and they're like, no no. They didn't cancel it because he's a Satanist It was cancelled because they had problems with the construction That was what Live Nation said but then if that was true you think well okay maybe they're going to make up and do the concert later at The Pyramids No they didn't Instead he went did a concert in Rome But another curious thing I found when I was sort of catching up on all the updates to this Travis Scott thing

45:35 Kanye West who I mean we could do hours on Kanye West right he's almost too much. I can't even follow him anymore it's just so much going on with the guy because he also showed up at the Diddy trial, he also called Diddy a fed but then was there supporting Diddy? It's so bizarre. And another thing that was weird to go back to Diddy is that there was a language that, that did he use? That mirrored what Kanye West said on there's like a famous sort of Kanye West clip from TMZ just a few years ago where he talked about how his mother died for this shit and he's like yeah Michael Jordan's father but people come up missing in Hollywood isn't that kind of weird Yeah

46:14 almost that exact same language was used by Diddy. One of the Jane Doe's who testified said that he said the same threatened her with the same language, like people come up missing around here and I just thought that was kind of strange because there are all these parallels and then to bring it over back to Travis Scott Kanye West Of course the guy who put Travis Scott on the map He signed Travis Scott And there was a Donda listening party in...I don't remember what year Just recently..just couple years ago And on the artwork for the Donda party, it showed a dove which is supposed to symbolize his mother who died. Don't do any had a donor Academy that I think has since shut down and they had a team on there called the don't doves

46:59 But anyway, my point was is that Travis Scott showed us the dove coming out of that cave whilst on fire to start this horrific satanic ritual. So I claim to be a satanic ritual because it just seems like that it seems like and then we don't have time today, of course, but I'm doing it. I'm working a deep dive into Saturn death cults and the history of Saturn worship and how it really does have a basis in human sacrifice. Like, that's not It's not conjecture, it's not satanic panic. Like its a real thing and so when you look at all these events that we say oh its a blood sacrifice event like if is then

47:39 We found the religion that they're doing this for. It's a Saturn black cube religion. Heck yeah, heck yeah man you hit pretty much all the things that were in my notes that were interesting yes he came out to the song escape plan and this whole thing happened because people couldn't escape because there was no plan for this scenario and it's just like wow and yeah people who died are the ones who took the left hand path towards the stage And also I heard you say this, Travis Scott before the event years ago, I guess was in a music video wearing a Pearl Jam shirt from their album Dark Matter. And they did a concert for dark matter that had a trampling event, A Dark Matter Indeed and I just thought the word play again with the title is fun but also the fact that Travis Scott clearly like gets hard over trampling events because he... Why are you wearing? You don't seem like a Pearl Jam fan

48:34 But you seem like you're wearing it because specifically this is associated with a trampoline event. Yeah, dark guy. So let's jump over to the other reason Travis Scott popped up in the news and that's this weird photo shoot with Michelle Lamy. I'm going to put the photo up so for people who haven't seen this photo yet and are watching but not really watching some people look away when the podcasts are happening but look at the screen because the picture is going up it's this weird photo shoot they did where it looks like it's a post-coitus photo shoot with Travis Scott and this 81 year old witch. This lady, I guess she's a fashion icon who paints her fingers black and like I said, a Marina Abramovic kind of archetype

49:20 Well, this story goes pretty deep. She as I looked up, you know she goes to a lot of Balenciaga events again red flag, the fashion industry it's all connected well talk to us about this chick and this weird photo shoot and why? Why is this dustup and where do you think these roads lead Michelle Lammy, she's interesting looking for sure but she has an interesting story too. She partners with Rick Owens who is the guy who is another fashion icon He did some Converse photo shoots with a bunch of inverted pentagrams a few years ago But the Travis Scott connection comes through because Travis Scott says that he was backstage with Michelle Lammy and Rick Owens

50:09 The backstage area was sort of designed by, so Rick Owens and Michelle Lammy own a business together of doing a variety of things including like designing furniture, designing art that sort of thing. Travis Scott apparently had them design his sort of backstage I don't know set? I know what you would call it... His room is set up he invited a photographer named Nick Knight to do a photo shoot with Michelle Lammy and Travis Scott back there The fuck is that the photos are i mean they to me they have only implied that travis scott and michelle lemme had sex like their kind of like laying in a. I just post coital caress of sorts but it will you also see on the images as you see a ton of orbs right this is your friend like ghost hunting phenomenon of taking a photo and you see orbs that are,

51:00 Some believe they're spirits, some believe they're just energy. I've taken photos...I used to do ghost hunting back in the day and i've seen these as well um these orbs it's kind of weird stuff In fact we went to uh this is back on like 99 We went to a high school that was supposedly haunted and we were in the auditorium And there was a camera a camcorder on a tripod and they said look at the and It was kind of a new technology back then To have the camcorder with a little flip up screen that you could observe what was being recorded And they were like, check out the screen and just sit there and watch it. And you'll see orbs float by. And I've seen them with my naked eye on the on the screen, you know? So so to substitute that right now.

51:43 are interesting. Nick Knight, he's a very famous photographer. He is also a music video director. He did work with Kanye West and Lady Gaga and Travis Scott so he did the photo shoot. Michelle Lammy she was... She is in her 80s right? And she's been in the fashion industry her whole life basically. But she also was a lawyer at a certain point and she studied, I read through this interview with her that's how i know this stuff She studied a philosopher named Gilles Deleuze which im probably butchering his name

52:22 But the reason that stood out to me is because I've been researching the dark enlightenment for a period of time now and Gilles Deleuze comes up in the philosophies of the dark enlightenment and Nick Land, and the ideas of virtual reality. And all these things which we can unpack later The interview I read from Lampoon Magazine, she talks about to lose and she talks about how she took his college course on Alice in Wonderland. And the mirror is what she said which already is like okay that's you know we're getting into occulted territory because that's a heavily occulted story that Alice traveling under underground to have her enlightenment process happen and then the new interview She compares Travis Scott

53:10 to Marina Abramovich, which as you rightfully so points out plugs us into a whole host of conspiracies like Pizzagate because she had, you know, Marina Abramovich another one is sort of occult artist that had the spirit cooking events with Lady Gaga and she actually was teaching Lady Gaga the Abramovich method. Sorta stripping down her ego for her art or whatever. But she, anyways Michelle Lammy compares Travis Scott to Marina Abramovich in that interview specifically. But Gilles Deleuge he had written books like I said he inspired a lot of this Dark Enlightenment stuff which when you unpack the Dark Enlightenment one of the major philosophies you'll find is accelerationism and it's the belief that we need to accelerate this technology and hyper capitalism because

54:09 The way they view the world now through people like Peter Thiel and you can hear this with Peter Thiel's interview with Ross Dothat on the New York Times. Peter Thiel is, he's like angry that technology hasn't fulfilled his science fiction fantasies He's angry that we're not already living in a digital matrix right? And he's probably seen too many movies You probably thought Like all of us we've been flying cars like back to the future showed us by now which were not so these acceleration is they believe that. The reason we haven't had these things is because, we put legislation up to sort of slow things down to be careful with a in that sorta thing and they say no we need just including this goes into like political

54:59 ideas and like they hate social, any kind of socialism thing because they're very heavy like social Darwinians. And they're like look we can't slow down progress to take care of poor people and people with handicaps in these sorts things they... We need just sort of plow over them They are going get left behind. We needed just keep it moving like that's what acceleration is. And anyway Jill DeLuge wrote books that in the 1970s that were sort of the seeds of this weird accelerationism theory. And in one of the books, he talks about how... He views the world as everything is just machines including the human body we're just machines for organs and that capitalism and systems like capitalism are inevitably going to tear down all systems and structures

55:58 He wants the people that are into this stuff, they want to like I said go on to sort of a hyper capitalist space and sort of break down the material world breakdown. The physical body and what all this means to me when i hear all this because it gives you delusions also talk about virtue virtual reality is what he called it's about living in his virtual reality spaces like we're talking about digital matrix stuff for talking about uploading our consciousness through sort of neural link chips into the internet. And Deluge, he influenced you know Michelle Lammy Genesis P. Ulrich was interested in Deluge Brian Eno and all these people but like any of these sort of fringy philosophers he committed suicide so I mean is this someone we want to listen too? Seems kind of weird

56:52 the fact she's hanging out with Travis Scott and comparing him to Marina Abramovic is kind of priceless, to be honest. Yeah that is really kind of insane she's the one who looks more like The Archetype but to say that it's like well clearly there is a cult stuff going on and they're winking and nodding publicly and okay so this is where I hope we can stick The Landing with the first hour here because I want to get at least a little bit into some of the really wild stuff You got this, uh, Deluge character who seeds this philosophy. The dark enlightenment we're calling it basically technocracy and transhumanism sort of stuff he inspires Curtis Yarvin and Nick land now JD Vance apparently loves Yarvin and that would make sense because he's the little puppet boy of Peter Thiel Nick lands.

57:45 This is wild. So to quote your sub stack on this dark enlightenment series, you say first off Nick Land titled his book the Dark Enlightenment that's where we're getting the term it's not just to be provocative but he's also credited as the godfather of accelerationism which takes us back to the 1990s you say where He was a British philosopher who taught at Warwick University. He also participated in a group called the cybernetic culture research unit The CCRU, and they were wild. They were exploring demonology numerology and esoteric ideas such as hyperstition Nick believed there exists a positive feedback loop with culture that reinforces its own magnetic chain

58:29 Symbols are transmitted to everyone in society via the internet and cause changes in reality. The example you put in parentheses is Pepe the Frog." Nick saw capitalism as a force that is very sensitive to this idea because confidence creates the reality and sells the product. In an interview with Nick Land from 2009, he said that the thing that is hidden from us, the occult, is an alien order of time which shows up as synchronicities He also describes hyperstitionality as something that condenses our reality but comes from H.P Lovecraft's old ones, much like we see in John Carpenter's Mouth of Madness film. In a three-hour interview on Scott Mannion's

59:14 MetaLore in September 2023, Nick Lan describes the CCRU's engagement with magic and entities from the outside. He also confirms that the Kabbalistic numerological expression of CCRU was equivalent to the number 666. Nick Lan's work inspired artists Jake and Dinos Chapman who were also members of the CCRU They've continued that CCRU perspective by continuously exploring accelerationism and having collaborations with Nick Land. They also collaborated with Balenciaga, which takes us into much darker territory you say? And there's another photo I will have them add to the screen in post from this

59:55 piece But you are really going a level deeper. Talk to us about some of the stuff I just laid out, how Balenciaga is involved and what their role is to play in all this because it just seems like a weird fashion company but obviously its more than that. one of those moments for me over this, uh my you know last 15 years of doing this sort of research where pieces started falling together and I thought man this is too weird. And it's it goes into what's the dark enlightenment and I've done man...I don't know six or seven episodes since February? I believe on my podcast about it. I've done several sort of shorter reads on my sub stack

1:00:53 about the same content basically and I'm writing a book about it which, I don't know when i'll get it done. It will probably be spring 26 but... It's fascinating! It's where everything connects together when you get into the world of conspiracies and the occult now it's sort of bled into our politics, right? Which isn't my forte. Politics is not my forte because I think it's a very futile effort to debate opinions on some level. But that's where the territory takes us today and I guess we could start by talking about what the Dark Enlightenment is because it's basically the inversion of The Enlightenment as an inversion

1:01:40 like I said, this is influenced by philosophies that have been guided by demonic forces. And i don't say that in some kind of crazy Christian warrior satanic panic concept it's uh yeah so you have to understand the philosophies here and the dark enlightenment What's the pursue a new world order and new government and it wants to get rid of american democracy it was you get rid of these ideas of equality and taking care of our neighbors in all these things insert have a really cold non empathetic view of the world.

1:02:23 It's sort of like a computer till was a libertarian for a period of time and this is kind of i think what you would get if you got into the sort of us satanic libertarianism in a way right i think it's. It's about literally tearing down everything we know with american democracy, and replacing it with this authoritarianism, this corporation. They want to make it into a corporation because you know in his school of thought it's like businesses and the free market are the best way of going about everything You know there is elements that are true right? We live in a capitalist society and its pretty good I enjoy

1:03:01 air conditioner and water in my drinks. It's pretty nice, but what they want to do is they think that they can run the country with a CEO king that's not elected, right? Not a CEO King that will have a group of techno elites that manage network states. They call this a variety of terms and they'll call them freedom cities, I can't think of the other names for it, but all these ideas go back to the occult concepts laid out by Manley P. Hall and Francis Bacon in their books The Secret Destiny of America and The New Atlantis It's a same concept that's idea about us society that's perfected because they put

1:03:49 scientists and technocrats in charge. Yes, everything and not to cut you off so of course this is like techno transhumanism I mean the centralized control grid stuff that everybody talks about this is the philosophical groundwork for this but I just heard you use that term freedom city and you have another sub stack post about what's going on in Washington DC said will Washington DC be the home for the first dark enlightenment Freedom City for Peter Thiel And you talk about the big balls event as a James Shelby Downard ask public psychodrama to justify the federalization of the police force and that could be a giant op to

1:04:33 usher in a test city for this larger project. I just wanted to throw that in because I thought it was topical and, uh, makes sense to me. Yeah. And that whole thing with the, uh, the bit you'd have to read my sub stack with the, uh, there's dude big balls who worked for doge which was tasked to, uh, you know, reduce the spending and government, which yeah. Okay. Like that's fine. We spent a lot of money. We have a deficit we should like address that right? Yeah. Um, But he was a side as part of those to sort of like you know reduce the government and all this stuff. And the irony of it all is that this guy who's very young i don't know how old he is now nineteen twenties is a young guy, did this work to like reduce your fire government workers are reduced size of government cancel but the contracts and then he

1:05:23 Within two months he leaves Doge and now he's a federal worker working for the government making 170k a year. Like that's insane! I love it, yeah exactly. The hypocrisy is just off the charts so my point is I think that he was i think cuz the supposed event that happened was in the timeline how this work with strange march trump signs a six executive order talking about how we need to bring crime down and in the capital of washington dc ok sounds good then we get this event were supposedly big balls at three in the morning was at his car in this neighborhood. And if you Google the coordinates of the neighborhood, because I'm not from D.C., I don't know anything about it. But when you look at that neighborhood like it looks beautiful on like that looks like that looks like the most beautiful hipster part of Salt Lake City. Like Alex is very safe but whatever they say that he was at this area and three in the morning these these hoodlums come up to him and there they want to steal a car so he

1:06:25 throws his girlfriend in the car and then confronts the guys and gets beat up, and he's all bloody. There's like this photo of him showing them like all beat-up And... The cops just happen to be patrolling right then and there and they break it up And I'm like, OK. It's three in the morning and you're telling me like there's a cop? There's multiple cops patrolling just down the street that just happened to be there at the same time. Sounds like you got this under control. Like that's a pretty good response time to me. Yeah. And I just don't believe it. There's people they were claiming that big balls was actually soliciting a prostitute

1:07:01 I don't know any that's true. That's what they're claiming, but my point is i think it's all staged its problem reaction solution you know David taught me this many moons ago uh it's whether it was staged or not or partially staged whatever they're using it now to be like oh my god look there's it's rampant with crime which maybe this...I don't know I don't live there The statistics from their own police department say that violent crime is down so take from that where you will So I thought it was a good point that tied into recent events, that kind of goes from the dark enlightenment and spills out into real world applications of the philosophy that have now been justified in our current timeline. But I don't want to leave the free listeners hanging when it comes to that stuff I read about the CCRU and Balenciaga maybe more than CCRU because

1:07:51 These people were involved in a cybernetic culture research unit and doing all kinds of demonology type stuff. And this has been my thing, and I know you also recently interviewed Jacques Vallée. I want to ask you a little bit about that eventually. I've always found it curious that Jacques Vallée is this leading thinker in ufology and then also involved in the foundation of cybernetics And I don't know if he's exactly tied to the CCRU, but he definitely is one of these core people at the beginning of the infancy of the internet. And now we have this age where people are saying, I think AI might be just demons. I think it might be a vessel for consciousness that comes from the other side. So very interesting, but yeah try to give the free people at least a little taste of the activities of the CCRU and how this piece ties in?

1:08:43 So the guy who wrote the book on the dark alignment, Nick Land who used these accelerationist philosophies. He was part of the CCRU at Warwick University in England It was a collective right and it was actually started by woman named Sadie Plant Who used as a cyber feminist research group but she I guess kind of like not super into it nick land was so he kinda join the group and started taking over and doing experiments in their experiments were. In doing various writings and experimentations if i got the book,

1:09:19 over here somewhere. It's fascinating, I'm only a little chunk into the book but i've already got just tons of content that I want to put into my book that I am going to write about the dark enlightenment Are you referring to his book The Dark Enlightenment? There is a book called The Collective Writings Of The CCRU Okay cool it's a published collection of variety of essays and stuff they were writing and lot more just like experiments or fictional writings really into a variety of subjects, cyberpunk horror. HB Lovecraft esotericism Carl Young William S Burroughs Kabbalah numerology and demonology So these are all of the occult things that we talk about all the time And they were really into a thing called hyperstition and that's again this idea is like synchronicities manifesting new realities and he they call it They call it a positive feedback circuit

1:10:16 Meaning they thought they could sort of create reality on some levels. It's it's a mixture of superstition and Like hyperreality, it's I don't know. It's it's like a mixture of propaganda magic predictive programming symbolism synchronicities and so on like I said, it's kind of like the ideas of Pepe the Frog right because Pepe the frog was this strange moment in time where people on 4chan were fueling up this sigil, this meme and they believe that they were able to get Donald Trump elected because Donald Trump I don't know if you remember back in 2016 they thought there was zero chance this guy was getting in. It was as good as in the bag he wasn't going to get in and it happened and it was shocking

1:11:04 And that's one of the ideas that supports this kind of concept. Now, Nick Land during the CCRU says that they were actually doing magic. They weren't talking about it and we're researching it. They were doing it and they were engaging with these forces, these entities. And he sums them up as a collective called The Outside, right? Which is, of course, a reference to the adversary or Lucifer, Satan. He said that the outside were these entities that could condense into our realities through hyperstition, right? You could feel enough intention belief energy into these sigils or entities and they could manifest into our world. And he specifically called them the old ones from HB Lovecraft which is your Cthulhu type entities

1:11:52 Not to like go into this deep rabbit hole which ties us into Kenneth Grant because that was Kenneth Grant's whole thing Was making contact with these Lovecraftian entities. There's a weird connection there of how the entities from the outside they move in a different dimension They're not from this space-time and that's what if you look at the cover of the CCRU collective writings They've got this thing called a numerogram, and that's kind of their visual depiction of what these entities are Trying to sort of explain to mankind as their system of time and space. And I know it gets really weird, but i'm trying to understand it as well. Just like you said the real tell was when Nick Land was at that interview and he said that in Kabbalah numerology the CCRU is equated to 666 which is the mark of the beast right? So there's a lot of weird things with how the occult and magic manifestation have worked their way into our politics

1:12:54 And it's part of the UFO phenomenon and that's why I wrote those two books about, you know, aliens, UFOs in the occult use your illusion one and two because that's what this is all about. And that's exactly how I interpret when I interviewed Dr Jacques Vallée he basically said like yeah that's right that's how this works people got to understand that Well, that's good way to stick the landing for the free people. No one get into some of the deeper details I'm going to throw the cover of the book up on the screen because yeah it is kind of a sigil ask This is just so wild I've just never heard of this group everyone wants to go reference Jack Parsons in The Babylon working and we got this happened in the 90s like It's much fresher So I appreciate this this really is always a pleasure

1:13:36 I love you in a completely hetero Christian brotherhood kind of way. Same, my brother same! But we'll have to talk again there's more on the plate here we didn't get too. We got a new Jordan Peele movie that looks like it's going to get into the occult initiation of the celebrity culture. We got a new Spielberg UFO film. We're gonna be busy guys in the next 12 months You've really been crushing it lately. Very prolific, always doing stuff Let people know what they should check out. You got the sub stack, the YouTube channel, the podcasts hit them. Yeah. The reliable is the podcast called symbolism and pop culture. All the other things are you know I'm at the whims of whoever wants to cancel me and torch my account so by all means follow them uh you know Instagram has been pretty good to meet at Isaac Weishaupt so you can follow me there and then yeah the podcasts as a cult symbolism in pop culture you can find it on everything

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1:15:34 Dark enlightenment be damned another new term for transhumanistic technocracy as if we didn't have enough, but Hey, if they self identify as the dark enlightenment who am I to question it? Especially these days. But you know, it is always great to get an update from Isaac he's one of the OGs that I've really stayed in touch with and talked shop with off the air. And he's just a good guy I like Jay Dyer too. He's more of the academic flavor, but he's also more rigid in his Christianity. I don't mean for that to be an insult at all. Jay is also very funny and appreciates good humor. I'm only saying they really are the two main figures in that pop culture slash occult analysis wheelhouse. J is also more on the movie side now Isaac has more on the music

1:16:30 I don't know why i'm going down this road of comparing them so aggressively. I like both Isaac and I have a good rapport, and it's good to talk to him every so often that's it! And the catalyst for this was the Diddy trial and that is why I reached out and I wanted to wrap a bow around that because we did talk about it the last time he was here because it was just starting and we were like wow I can't believe this is really happening And we always want these things to be bigger than they are. And we want more to be revealed, but there is often a bit more in the details for those who actually do pay close attention and I know Isaac is that guy so figured it was worth talking about because this is the best we get when it comes to exposing these networks

1:17:19 For my money, I think the biggest thing in this episode is the very pizza gate adjacent network of freaks that we talked about. We got into it a bit in the free show but this is a great example of why I'm sometimes really happy that we do have the Free Plus split because we went deeper into some of this so-called art that these Chapman freaks are auctioning off for six figures Little toddler statues with a dick nose and an asshole mouth really twisted shit. And it is episodes like this one where I feel a little bit bad and somewhat awkward subjecting the poor guys in the studio editing booth to this stuff, because usually they're just trying to edit some promo video for a real estate agent. Then they got me on the schedule every so often throwing out stuff like this

1:18:12 But I did send them the images and asked them to put these statues on the screen at that part of the conversation. Cause I don't want it to be hypothetical. I want everyone to see exactly what we're talking about in this part of the conversation did come up organically, right? At the one hour Mark, which is great because I do think these images would probably get this episode taken off YouTube and get me another strike. And I'm not trying to be dramatic. We also know that conversations about vaccines are more likely to be censored than the bizarre Elsa gate adjacent cartoons that they have on there. But I don't think anyone would blame me for being a bit nervous to have that stuff in the free show, but anyway if you're a free listener and you're curious, You only have to Google Chapman brothers fuck face one word and you'll see what I'm talking about

1:19:08 And looking at it again, if someone pays a hundred grand for this stuff they probably do put their dick in that hole right? I would say that these people who purchased this should be investigated but i know the argument yeah bizarre taste and art is no crime some of the nicest people i know love gory slasher aesthetics for some reason definitely not my thing but when you get this weird torture porn art of children, and it's circling around the elite class and sold at these auctions for insane prices. I think we know what's going on even if there's nothing we can do about it, at least acknowledging that and being like, Hey

1:19:58 There is kind of a line, right? I mean something's wrong with the psychology of a person who would make that stuff and then supports art for those kinds of insane prices. But you know whatever very interesting rabbit hole so yeah the first hour set the stage and the second hour dove us right off it. The CCRU stuff was really interesting too probably need to go further on that Valencia and the Chapman brothers, lots of wild stuff in that second hour. Me and Isaac have been doing this a while we know how to bring the heat sign up for plus if you want to hear more ad free and action packed help me help you and get twice as much show for as low as eight bucks a month links right in the show notes tokenized podcast link for your apps so you don't even need the username and password stuff anymore it's basically magic the higher side chats.com okay

1:20:53 And let me also say this, after I recorded this episode. I got curious about some things we talked about and I did some followup research and guys, I went too far. This happens every couple of years. I went too far. I did not realize that there are telegram channels that are very raw probably way closer to dark web content than anything else that's easily accessible And I wanted to see more about that artist who made the image on Jay-Z and Ellen's hoodies that we talked about. The, uh, castaway Wilson imagery which I really do think is a method of flaunting this stuff because Tom Hanks is a freak too. Is that a Spielberg movie? I'd have to look that up but what I saw claimed to be the source image for this stuff

1:21:48 It's basically a screen capture, or it seems like a frame of a video that is allegedly out there where a little girl's face has cut off and worn by allegedly supposedly according to the internet Hillary and. And I don't know. I don't think this shit has only happened once anyway so I don't know if that exact video has been kind of twisted around for political purposes But what I saw looked like a photograph of a skinless face of a little girl. And the eye is there just the same composition as that sketch on the hoodies and it really disturbed me and it's been a few days now, but God, it burned itself into my head and I could not get into a good mood for a couple days. I wish I had not seen it. It took a chunk of my soul or something

1:22:49 It's one thing to talk about this stuff, but when you see it and realize you can't do anything about it and these people are completely untouchable. It's just tough. You don't want to see that? Oh, I didn't even want to tell my wife because I don't want her to even think about that. But what can we do really but hug our own kids and try to be our best selves and appreciate life? Uh, I don't even really want to talk about it anymore, I thought it was important to say because i don't know when else i would say it but just be careful how far you go. I'll move on, but the story with this video is that it was on the wiener laptop and that when cops saw this and investigators saw this they were so deeply disturbed that a lot of them quit their jobs and they say some committed suicide. I don't know about that part seems convenient for those out there who want fewer people to have seen

1:23:47 Convenient suicides, you know a theme lately on the higher side chats. But definitely I understand quitting your job or being asked to be reassigned to even traffic patrol or something because You can't be looking at this all the time Okay moving on so the last show was with Janice McAfee THC's first in-studio guest! I am really glad it worked out and It ended up being content that was personal and fresh, and that made it more interesting to be in person I think. And I do feel for her loss. I appreciate her thick skin and willingness to talk about all the theories and speculation. It's also a show—the only one I can remember—that cut off in the middle of my damn wrap-up! It is always something right?

1:24:39 So this happened on the export. The guys at the studio said there was a power outage overnight and they exported the show, you know these things they take forever so you set it and you go out at 5 p.m., come back the next day and it's exported And I guess uh... It didn't go all the way through and no one caught until I saw someone bring up in the comments You didn't really miss much just like 12 more minutes of me rambling but of course there had to be a caveat with that show, right? I was so excited to get it out. Of course something goes wrong and I couldn't really fix it on the video. It wasn't worth it for me to re-upload it to YouTube once there's already a thing happening and then I had bad video compression issues here at home as this 16 gigabyte file and that's too big for the Plus streaming platform

1:25:32 So I basically just fixed the free and plus audio shows. And I'm just saying, let's move on from that a little annoying but hey if you really want to hear that last 12 minutes it's there in audio form as for the rating though i'm glad it was well liked it's sitting at 4.8 right now and That's about as high as it can go. So I'm just glad it was well received, pretty interesting, especially the plus show where she looked right at the camera and made her plea to the code breakers to keep coming over the whack token and John's Twitter feed from that time. That's good content. I probably should clip that but she really did sell it and She was great And I don't want

1:26:19 Badger you about plus, but hey if you like what I'm doing. You're missing half the show without plus and half's kind of a lot i am happy to say i only get paid directly from people who buy the ticket and take the ride and enjoy what we're doing here And if you respect that then you know buy the ticket and take the ride All right so we have come to the meetup calendar let's see what's going on Wednesday, September 10th Dayton Ohio at the canal street arcade and deli. September 14th Austin Texas sour duck market. September 15th Auckland New Zealand at Gail Brath's ale house. September 21st we have one at Neff Brewing in Tulsa Oklahoma and September 28 Portland Oregon at the bunk bar okay okay

1:27:16 So I know I bitched about wanting to see more events. We do have a couple more events and there probably be even a few more but i found out we also had a glitch on the website with the CAPTCHA thing it was keeping people from posting and man, I hate CAPTCHAS but I guess it's something we can't remove or everyone would remove So that is the next thing on the list got to fix the capture for. The meetup website, if you tried to make an event and had a problem with it try again in like a week or so, and we should be back in business. All right well that is the show big thanks to Isaac show him some love if you like his work and dedication to this really dark stuff that he does

1:28:01 spend a lot of time trying to suss out and package for people so they have a better understanding of how the world really works. And yeah, it's tough work to do. So give them an attaboy! Thank you for listening take care of you in yours I've done my part your move pedo art peddlers entertainment industry traffickers and frazzled drip freaks your fucking there's darkness everywhere Right on up to the edge of the light A cold and persistent force it is Lord knows, not hard to find We get dropped in this place Where the dice decide to land It's a goddamn frickin' miracle If we get a decent hand Thankful if you're born on the wrong Some random arbitrary man

1:29:08 imaginary and be grateful if you happen to see yourself pulled to a decent eq we get proud when sometimes it's just luck, we are free to go sometimes when we pretend were stuck. Be Earth taken You might not pat your own back too hard if you know how

1:30:09 Just be thankful if you're born on the right side of arbitrary imaginary life. Oh, you're still here. I thought we were done well there you have it another great entry into the deep and robust THC archive that goes back over 15 years at this point peruse it all at the higher side chats dot com and take advantage