Greg Paul | New Earth Nation, Transcending The System, & Building The Future

00:00 Hello Greg and fellow fans of THC. My username is Lisa Marie on the highersidechats.com website, and I won some money bomb! I am from Arkansas and currently live in rural Arkansas. I like to write poetry and take photographs with my old 35mm camera. I have a husband of 18 years and we have a 14 year old son. I woke up from being sheepish after separation from my enslavement with a multinational monster wireless company Last December, I cashed in my 401k throughout the TV and began working on my deprogramming. That job almost killed me! Now I clean hotel rooms for the exercise and minimum wage Nobody at that job realizes I am a college grad and it doesn't matter. I have more time for my family

00:46 I pay a lot less taxes and my son is homeschooled now. So that is why I will use the people's money toward mortgage 100%. Boy did I need it! Love the subscription in the money bomb. It is the best deal in town I dig all your topics. I love Freeman fly and now Jamie Henshaw, too So I hope they will be on also we are being Kim trailed hard so any discussion about what? Is being sprayed would be interesting. I look forward to every broadcast Thanks In the 1930s, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed a nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the Fireside Chats. His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times but we're far from 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire For a new era of worldly frustration We offer a fresh conversation! I'm Greg Carlwood These are The Hireside Chats

01:51 Here we go, Ironside Chatters. Drink a little drink smoking a little smoke from sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood We heard from the last Moneybomb winner before the intro Congrats to her and thanks to everyone who's keeping that program alive along with THC Plus It really means a lot And today is such a great show A solution show One of my favorite types Where we graduate from the basic understanding that our system is fucked and corrupted nearly every level and we say Well, what are we gonna do about it? And Greg Paul the director of The New Earth Nation has some great ideas and an extremely positive attitude. New Earth Nation is sort-of tough to explain because it's not a system itself per se other than to state that the individuals involved want freedom justice peace and abundance for everyone and wants implement the greatest tools We have many of which have been suppressed or overlooked because of their empowering nature to the people rather than the power structures

02:46 So the New Earthers, they have the blueprints a lot of guidelines and suggestions but no real requirements to their communities. No way it's gonna be so to speak But when Greg talks about some of the technologies and tools that could be used that we don't get to hear about that often really blew my mind a couple of times. I think there is a lot of great information that i haven't heard before, really anywhere and i think a large part of that is because of the circles that Greg Paul is in at the moment but also because he's outside of the western world and has been for quite some time. I talked to him from Bali Indonesia I think getting yourself out of the system mentally and physically has effects on your consciousness that might not occur otherwise. So, I really appreciate his perspective and find it a pretty unique opportunity to converse with someone who's dialed in to a much different mindset but it comes with challenges too The internet is not great in Bali Indonesia and we lost the connection a dozen times

03:44 had signal issues, had Greg change devices several times. Had a really bad delay but I have been working my ass off for two days trying to stitch it all together and equalize it all and get rid of all the crying children barking dogs crowing roosters and random other noises coming from the tropical paradise in open huts of Bali And personally I kind of like hearing just a little bit of those sounds because it really makes the area Greg is in seem alive Although, not the most convenient for interviews. But I hope you can appreciate it in that sense and in the sense that if I want to take a risk and do a show with someone in a tropical location because there's a valuable conversation there It's not going to have the same polish as a guy in New York City

04:30 And I think we can all agree that it's better than not having the conversation at all. But either way, I think it turned out great just slightly inconsistent and I'm sure you're gonna love it but we have been due for some positivity here and It's a solid dose from the director of The New Earth Nation Greg Paul Drink a little drink my friend Smirk a little smirks looks like Mr. Coward is studying up Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. We spend a lot of time talking about the evils of the world, the nefarious elite in our suffocation under their matrix of control And I feel like this is an all-important step one because with each examination of our various 99 problems Our desperation and urgency for real change becomes most apparent

05:26 And every so often when we can, I like to do a show that explores the big step two solutions and models that we can subscribe to get out of the violent abusive authoritarian system. We were born into and today is going to be just one of those shows. We're talking with Greg Paul, the director of The New Earth Nation are really insightful inspirational guy who's really pushing for the change A lot of us are sitting around waiting for all the way from Bali. I know I'm psyched to have him here Greg my man how the hell are you? Fantastic thanks Greg That was quite an introduction Yeah, man. Well you're worthy of it I mean you're doing a lot of great work. I think this new earth nation program is is pretty awesome You've got a great website all the things that are necessary for people to start generating some buzz around it And uh I think it's super exciting so I appreciate you being here I mean these are some of my favorite types of shows to do I love to hear about these new models rather than just hearing about the history of our economic enslavement So

06:22 This should be fun, but to start us out man Tell us a little about your story because I know you were pretty successful guy before you decided To extract yourself from the system and work for something greater So what brought you to the point of being the director of something so radically different like this? Well in one word conscience. I guess And it's not like that job. I used to do in an old world if you like was particularly despotic, I started life as a quantity surveyor on big construction projects and kind of went through various roles there and ended up establishing my own house building company. So we were if you like

07:15 I had a good life. There was no need to rebel from the system, it never treated us particularly badly. Right. Kind of landed on our feet but then you know serendipity has a way of surprising you every now and again and it did that with my wife and I and it started I think with us meeting a couple of people who initially, I think the two very first things we were introduced to by this man-and-woman partner were chemtrails. The existence of chemtrails and the nature

07:57 the banking system both of which we kind of shunned like you do and that's the very first time you hear it but all it has to do is create enough of a chink in your armor that you go and take a look for yourself. And it's the usual story, we spent the next 12 months glued for six hours every evening to various YouTube videos and research papers and books on, you know that kind of thing. And come the end of it, having discovered I mean for me it was the banking system. Which is really the core and heart of everything all the other conspiracy stuff was all very well and good but for me It was about the banking system that was something you could logically look at and see that the real precise pathology off everything else I was looking up

08:55 It all seemed to add up to a big story, but I couldn't prove any of it myself. The only thing that could prove was from papers issued by the system itself was how the banking system really functioned and that's the only thing I could dissect to the finest detail and so on but that was enough for me I just can't do this anymore. How can I in good conscience continue to pay a mortgage when I know that it's fraudulent and therefore, I would be complicit with that fraud if I were to continue doing so? How can I continue to do any of those things that are essentially complicit with the fraudulent system if I'm not to be

09:52 the one that's actually supporting it, if you like. So yeah, that's how it all started and we all tell ourselves stories to justify continuing doing things you know? The necessity card or whatever else but for us we were on a very much spiritual journey very well deep into a spiritual journey play a necessity card when it was already living really at least partly living part of our experience that you know the universe life just delivers whatever it is you need and want when you need it. You're on this very sacred kind of journey, those kinds of excuses don't stack up with yourself anymore so it really left us in a place where we just had to walk away

10:46 We didn't sell the business or sell house or sell anything. We just stopped. Wow! Just didn't do it anymore, cancelled every direct debit and every standing order, didn't go into work, didn't go into the business... we just stopped. And you can see where it takes us. Yeah, you can imagine that a rollercoaster ride would take one on. Mm-hmm yeah fear is so strong Yeah, I mean fear is so strong but to think it only takes one moment of courage really or one act of courage because once you've taken that

11:31 there's really no going back. And the rest of it then is, you may be a presence of fear whilst your going through whatever those decisions take you but it's not... But its empowering at the same time You start to find that some of the information that you've been learning or some things you've been hearing are actually and you apply these truths to your life and you actually see that effect on power that has over people that you used to think had a tremendous amount of power over you, that fear just falls away very very fast. So I mean we were only really in the thick of that whole journey for about three years at the end of which we got everything we wanted out of it We shed everything in every sense of the word and were then down

12:27 building something new and that was when I bumped into Sasha. Met Sasha who is the founder of New Earth and got building something new really. Right on man, that's an interesting story! I know a lot of people want to take that type of leap and just are held back like you know i'm gonna do it soon i'm gonna do it soon i can only take so much more this and then you know five years goes by ten years goes by life happens and people get stuck on the teat there they can't extract So that's pretty crazy that you did. Yeah, most people say I want to do that but right now i can't do it because and in every one of those situations its because there is some life circumstance something outside me thats preventing me I need to save a little bit money to allow me to do this or something outside myself

13:25 Needs to fall into place before I will have the ability to do this And as long as anyone is telling themselves that story, they will never do it great point grace You know because it's all about It's all about you. No journey where when you step on it? Is just going to keep on reflecting you back to you Till you can't take it anymore. I Agree man yeah People have difficulties with stepping onto the path. It's it's only themselves that are holding them They are holding themselves back no one else Agreed so yeah, man We have talked to several people who have their own brands of these new societies all with their own philosophies and varying degrees of success but mostly being pretty similar and Almost all being better than what we have now but introduce us to New Earth Nation What are you guys about? Okay well

14:22 New Earth didn't start out as a New Earth nation, it started out as a New Earth project. So and to certain extent that is still what we are and we were really concerned with creating new models of community in society But as the time went by, we realized that the need of the organization was actually more served by also creating a new nation and a nation like no other. So the founding principles really of New Earth generally is that when you look at the problems

15:05 Affect the world and the people of the world at a moment You can boil every single one of them back down to the single fact that we all give away our inherent power mm-hmm to others you know where we will have someone else were happy to allow someone else to take responsibility for our education for our healing for our own personal circumstances, the lawyers to make laws and tell us what to do because that's a lot easier. It was always we always want someone to take care of us for us and so you boil everything back down to first principles and it's fact that week we give away our inherent power yeah there may be a very corrupt system in place at the moment but its there cause we permission

15:56 And only when we really own that do we actually have the power to do something about it. Say, okay well I'll begin to take back power over my own life might be a little more difficult now because I've spent my whole life doing the other giving that power away and now its the case of taking it back but thats fine its a journey so New Earth is really proceeds from that insight and every aspect of what we do is really focused towards returning power to the individual and to the point where that we begin, so we create a space that can really evolve properly consciously in every aspect of our lives and being. So New Earth Nation is what we call extra-territorial nation for sovereign men and women

16:54 So it is a, or the way that this nation is entered exists is ratified if you like, is through the New Earth Treaty and it's a covenant of fellowship essentially that outlines the basis for how we as men and women agree to conduct ourselves with each other. What responsibility we take in some very broad terms just some simple truths now And that's it. That is the founding premise of New Earth Nation as a jurisdiction in its own right

17:32 Yeah, man. I wanted to look at the New Earth Treaty in depth a little bit obviously it is the core message and it's long too! It prints out to be 11 pages with about 86 articles to it and its kind of split up into three parts so I thought we could talk about it that way with part one being The Covenant Of Peace And Fellowship pretty self-explanatory but how would you summarize that or expand on part 1 for the listeners? Well, first of all Greg we're looking right now to take the treaty to their sovereign tribes and nations. And there's a great many of them that are

18:13 that are kind of lining up to get involved, which is great because this is where the real safety in numbers. The real numbers come into the game for the first time in any of these initiatives but in order to do this we've actually had to simplify that treaty event a little bit so there's now only two parts and this will be changed very soon be engaging with all the people that have ratified that treaty but those first two parts are and the covenant of fellowship like you say and declaration of unalienable natural rights so the covenant of fellowship is precisely what it says. It's first of all actually, the act which is founding New Earth Nation

19:06 as you can see from the language used there, the party's ratifying it. And everything that happens in this world happens because we bid it! We are the creators of this reality and so if we want to create something new that aligns with pure truth then its on us to do it So thats how New Earth Nation is built by...with the will and consent with a properly informed will and consent of the sovereign people Very cool. So a lot of people I guess as societal systems go most of the listeners here will be familiar with Jacque Fresco and The Venus Project or the zeitgeist movement, and I do like what I see from Jacques in a lot of ways But how does New Earth Nation compare because there are some similarities but they're also some pretty big differences How would you compare the two?

20:00 There are some similarities, I mean the but the main differences um uh what the project's core drivers are and with New Earth it's sovereignty individual sovereignty and its consciousness. It's really holding those components as the heart and core of everything. So I mean, what the treaty actually says on our website is that New Earth Nation is founded in recognition of the primacy of consciousness, the unity of all life and the undeniability of the individual sovereign condition. And that's it! Whereas most other initiatives are looking to change something that is external

20:50 i.e., the way we create spaces, the way we build our economic systems or whatever else it may be whilst New Earth is also seeking to do those things as a function of core purpose so it's very difficult you see to change anything in this world when you're just looking outside of yourself and we said this before. So, this New Earth Nation is that marker where people looking in are really invited to say okay I'm gonna own this and own my part in it and change myself sufficiently that has the knock-on effect degree to world

21:41 That I would say is fundamentally the difference between, between the two. Yeah and well said because The one thing I like is the application of futuristic, efficient technologies for a more sustainable community. I love that aspect of it because there seems to be a lot of suppression in that area due to the power structure that's currently in place and their control grid and they want to keep things going the same way so... That is the biggest similarity AND the aspect of society on a global scale or local level that I would like to see changed the most

22:18 But then there's two ways this whole transition, if you like plays out. I mean the fact that the world is evolving and it is going to look very different is clearly already a done deal but are the subtleties that belie that true freedom joy happiness for mankind or are they Or is there an Aldous Huxley's Brave New World feeling to what's going on? You know, advanced technology is upon us. It's been happening every year for the last 20 years in fact for modern history we've been evolving those ways and all these technologies are upon us but well will look very different in the next five years ten years it's like it's happening anyway but what's gonna be

23:14 the state of being, of humanity. Are we going to achieve ecological balance on planet Earth by legislation? No because that's the whole point of the way that the system works at the moment. Laws ever since man first decided to implement a positive law i.e., something like a man-made law It creates this imbalance that the existence of those laws creates an imbalance in natural law. And so when you create that imbalance, you then need to create more man-made laws to offset the imbalance that you created and then more and more. And it's an exponential thing. That's why in the US you have like I think 3 or 4 thousand new pieces of legislation every year

24:16 coming in because there's a... otherwise that man-made ship would sink. And every piece of legislation is adding to that ballast. I totally agree! And even if now the Senates and Parliaments of the world were made up of truly decent, conscious knowledgeable and wise men and women they would still be adding to something which is doomed from the start Well said So we really just need a new understanding upon which to conduct ourselves and that is the covenant of fellowship. It's a reintroduction of natural law, or natural justice which is essentially equity in the current system and we cut out all the rest as considerate white noise from there

25:12 there's a chance for the right technologies to be used in the right places, to advance humankind not to make money. And there's loads of commercial benefits to bringing new technologies to market at the moment but that's where we're still bringing things as a whole, we're still bringing things or new innovations with the wrong motivation. We've gotta change the motivation. I agree man and Like you said about the Venus Project and the brave new world feel, I mean that is one of the big criticisms. It seems like it's kind of a top-down control system regardless of how great it is and how many meaningless jobs it might free up. It seems like kind of a dead world at least in the weird visualizations of it but

25:59 That's a serious distinction because New Earth Nation on the website there are many different sections, many different areas of community that you guys have worked out and there are a lot of guidelines and blueprints but they're all suggestions. And it seems very open source and I've said before why can't If people want to live here, like in the States. If people want to live super conservatively why can't they go take Florida? And if people want to live and smoke weed and live in hippie communities why can't they take California you know Why can't we have these different communities that allow people to live as they just want to live and people will naturally Go where like-minded people are who share the same interests and I think that it doesn't have to be so

26:44 Controlled and I think this new earth nation approach is great that personal sovereignty and responsibility Aspect is missing from a lot of these systems. Yeah, well, I mean God forbid we end up in a world where everything is homogenized and looks the same. I mean, that would just be unconscionable to me. What we have the opportunity to do right now is free the creative spirit of humanity. And all that creative spirit needs is a blank canvas It doesn't need a new set of systems and ideologies. It needs specific ways, boxes to put things in and people boxes for people in it just needs a blank canvas. We're so much more creative and capable of truly aligned creativity when

27:45 we have a blank canvas upon which to draw. I hear you man, well said and so i really want to get into the details of these new earth communities because this is what really matters and we have a lot of listeners that realize the system right now is fucked they're just spinning their wheels trying to keep a roof over their head and a lot of them are looking for alternatives between this and homelessness So let's kind of talk about the communities a bit Are there any real working models right now? At this point in time, no. We've been focusing our efforts on providing that solid base so that is the New Earth Nation as a jurisdiction and it's some purpose-built social networking and social tools that allow for that community creation on a larger scale I mean we could have last year

28:40 So focused on attention principally I'm pulling together the tools and resources we needed to build one or two communities but that's not really following. the core purpose of the project, that is just creating new models. And whilst we intend to do that what we've been more interested in at this stage is providing a blank canvas so now instead of us as a group having to act almost like a real estate developer We now have a canvas upon which tens of thousands of community groups can come together and create their own spaces

29:21 with the tools and resources that they need at their disposal. We've provided a series of 10 faculties with the New Earth Institute who really include experts in their respective fields to pull together resources for community creation and other things spanning the full spectrum of human life and endeavor So we're focused at the moment really on aggregating all those resources and providing the IT platforms that really allow this to happen because it's a connection thing. It's a community thing, and the web is the thing that facilitates that so I think we are expecting certainly within the next four weeks now maximum for

30:11 New Earth community portal to be launched and that is I mean it's really it's an alternative to Facebook all of the conscious groups on Facebook have taken a massive hit over the last eight months or so since Facebook changed its algorithms. So suit commercial groups, so everything every all those platforms that we use in there Google world just don't suit this evolutionary process So the new earth community is that alternative to Facebook for all those conscious groups and to provide the tools and resources for smaller groups of people, come together in community common unity. To build physical virtual

30:58 Spaces for their own advancement. It's great that you're doing something more than just talking because a lot of these systems they get so worried about being able to make a full global switch that it never goes anywhere and it gets stuck in this education phase, so it's good to hear that you're moving on from that I'm curious for the listeners who might be still kind of wondering what exactly the principles of New Earth Nation are. Of course, personal sovereignty and responsibility and getting away from control mechanisms but is this Like a traditional libertarians paradise is this an anarchist society i mean i know we don't like isms but i mean there is a safety net for the collective good for the collective need in these societies right i mean, is this a cashless society ice i'm assuming.

31:46 Yes and no to the cashless society. We have a platform that we have developed or in the process of developing called New Earth Exchange, and its mandate essentially is to facilitate the transition to a global gift economy but rather than just espousing the benefits of the gift economy and requiring the people go from A to Z in one jump, the exchange is providing various tools and stepping stones that allow that transition to happen more smoothly. In the first instance there's a zero point account which we should be launching around about the end of this year which is really a simple way

32:40 relatively simple tool which is a mobile application that allows you to essentially pull all of your existing financial stuff into one place credit cards debit cards and you only ever need to use one card going forward. Whole things managed on your own system and you get this little card that has no names, no numbers, no anything on it. It's just completely secure completely anonymous way to conduct yourself so there is

33:22 The transactions that you make now still function in exactly the same way, but they're no longer actually being performed by the existing legacy banking system. So they're not traceable in that way. Okay. Um so it's providing that anonymity at the same time that same platform has built into it the capacity to conduct those same mechanisms in all forms of alternative and complementary currencies. So there's a stepping stone thing following that comes the new earth sovereign as a resource backed multi-resource back currency and other tools that lead one from from their To essentially realizing shit. We're already gifting we just didn't realize it let's drop the money altogether so, that's the kind of

34:12 one two three of the economic plans if you like, but that's not to say that community groups if they're in their own communities. If they are ready and able to let go of that illusion of money altogether then That's exactly what they should do be that shining light an example for everyone else to follow but the idea of the exchange is also to make life easy for those people. They'll want to pick up this idea that um, up to now self-sufficiency has meant some kind of whatever you can't produce on your own land in your own community group you need to go without or else dip your toe back into that old trade and exchange world so the exchange is there to soften

35:04 process as well. Okay, yeah I get it's kind of tough to talk about because you guys aren't about absolutes you know there are no absolutes in absolute freedom people are allowed to do what they want at their pace but i guess the philosophy would be to push towards a cashless society all you really need. And I like that idea, a system that has both. Are you proposing people would have jobs of any kind just working as a community? You know obviously people work careers their whole lives for the system we have now and they get nowhere for it and they're no better for it. How is the New Earth Nation going to approach

35:50 The idea of careers and attracting currency and having ownership of objects. Well, you really need to address the core idea of careers at the moment I mean we have this idea of jobs and that unemployment is bad. There's really no need to hold on to that anymore, the technology that we have allows for essentially one brilliant mind to come up with a world-changing invention that actually takes care of 10 000 people in equivalency and so there's no need for us to be rushing around to employ all those other people, we just need to stop being selfish

36:37 And if we do that, we open up more space for the rest of mankind to be even more creative and for them to do the same. And the natural abundance that flows from that kind of a philosophy is vastly more or vastly greater than that which we have now when 99% of the population are having their creativity stifled by the need to put food on the table doing something they don't like. So I always take these questions back again, so first principles because

37:15 How can you anything or anything that we try to suggest impose as a model as any given model for careers of jobs are employment is only limiting all the things that way. stand in service of. Yeah, I definitely get that and I'm a much bigger fan of the approach that if people were allowed to have their full creative expression you know it wouldn't be thought of as work it would just be thought of contributing to the general community because you have 24 hours a day seven days a week of your own freedom and with

37:58 Eventually, I think that most people would get around to giving thanks to being able to have such a system like that with a little dedication in one area or another. Yeah yeah and the System is self-policing. People think if you allow everyone to do what they want we would have food chaos But it's not like there's no understanding at all I mean everyone in order to have any kind of recognized sovereignty, or be recognized as a micro-nation which is what this is really needs to show that they're able and willing to do that. They need to outline the principles upon which they are willing to conduct themselves as a micro nation for other people to decide whether they want to interact with them

38:51 And so with that treaty as you've seen, those principles are very small and simple but they're nonetheless the guiding principles. cause no harm or damage. Don't impinge the free will of others, one or two more but that's these are the principles which align with natural law they're what your heart speaks to if you were asked how you're going to express yourself in each moment we'll always naturally comport to those basic guidelines as long as you're in alignment with who and what you are well said man and for those who aren't

39:30 for those who aren't, we still have no one suggesting that we abandon every judicial system. The system as it operates at the moment actually does quite a good job of protecting the really sovereign and conscious individuals of this planet from what it terms the idiots paupers and lunatics. It doesn't do it in a particularly nice way It does it using entirely the wrong law forms and principles, but that's what it does. It serves that purpose and that particular purpose shouldn't be taken away Yeah man, I know a lot of people want change. Uh...I think they're just afraid of the inconvenience of it. The use of technology and intelligent architecture to give people high-end quality of life at convenience without a lot of sacrifices is pretty important because i don't wanna go live off the grid and have to shit in a community pot to fertilize the garden with that you know?

40:29 Yeah, but it doesn't have to be that way. It doesn't have to go back to... The whole point of New Earth is to show that it doesn't have to be about going back to breaking your balls farming for 20 hours a day just put food on the table living off the land We've gone past that point where free zero-point energy is now available in near infinite applications And that alone is what can free humanity. I mean, we have now where we had a number of horses that did all the work on farms, we now have tractors that do the work of 10,000 horses and oil allowed that to happen but it's limited and its causing damage to the planet but with one simple technology all that can change and then there's no limitation there

41:25 When you actually, this is just basic maths. When you apply that principle out across the whole system if you like it can't not make life very very easy and simple for people provided you make those tools and technologies accessible to all And people also have some fear of where we're actually going with technologies. I mean, you look at a lot of the movies that are produced now by Hollywood about artificial intelligence and things like that for example and i actually see now some initiatives and some real big scientific projects that are actually moving towards artificial intelligence and you know the first reaction to that is

42:09 Shit, but that is the that's the dark side Yeah But it's but it's not because we're evolving as a species right and as as we you know did the level of consciousness on this planet is raising I'm fast and by the time 20 years down the line when that artificial intelligence is at the level that it's, that folks say is going to be right now. The level of consciousness will have shifted and we'll be performing an entirely different function And we just don't have the capacity right now to see what that is but there's...but its more fear

42:46 To think that these things are wrong or are going to destroy mankind. Nothing is going to destroy mankind We have the creator of this reality, the creators about our own reality What do we want to see? Well said. And I did see a few mentions of free energy on the site, and this is something we've done shows on before the idea that there are free energy devices that are being suppressed. I'm kind of curious how your communities are going to go about managing the energy grid? What technologies are being proposed? Well there's a number

43:26 True zero point energy devices available and a lot of which have come through to us in our science and technology group really that's interesting but not delve too deep into those things which we couldn't put on a physical site tomorrow and therefore to protect those who have brought those to us. And I can just give you some examples of really grounded technology that right now is available. Sure! I mean our own, the director of science and tech faculty is amazing human being called Doug Linman who was a former NASA

44:09 chief scientist who has developed nanotech solar liquid paint. It's fully developed, it could be painted anywhere on anything tomorrow and it's a two-layer paint system that allows you to paint anything to power anything. You can put paint time at roads to power the cars. It's there as ready to add one gallon of paint costs several hundred dollars to produce. It covers 20 square meters and provides eight kilowatts of power That's unprecedented. Right? Yeah, that's a whole house of solar installation for $200. So these technologies are actually here and available right now. They're feet on the ground stuff. The world can understand them and get their head around them. It is efficient applications of science we understand today. There's really no limitation

45:04 Interesting. And I know you can't say much about zero point energy devices, it is a big debate and the safety of these scientists and pioneers is super important but I run into a lot of people who just either don't think its possible or don't think that's ever existed just because they haven't seen on Fox News or CNN but I mean you can confirm that you've seen some type of working model for this type of technology? Yeah, I can confirm that a number of people in our group and team have either witnessed Zero Point technology working or have developed them themselves. Wow! That is so exciting! Yeah but it's... things are being cooked

45:47 These technologies have been around for a long time Tesla pretty much cracked this up a century ago The world wasn't ready for it right and the world still isn't ready for it World will be ready for it when we're there. We've only have access to that godlike power When where? Conscious enough to wield it I It's that, but everything I've been involved in a lot of this stuff for several years now with various zero point energy devices and the things that happen to prevent the stuff coming out just not just the most remarkable and strange coincidences.

46:31 It's unbelievable, it makes you laugh. It would make most people cry if they'd been working doing these things for so long but that life is not ready to permit the world to have that much power right now. natural conclusion, we're just not ready for it. But we're getting there. And small pockets of people have really gotten to that space where they have the wisdom and humility to respect that kind of power and technology, and those people already are benefiting from the fruits of it

47:15 I fully agree from what i've seen you know just online and just digging deep into the conspiracy realm. There's a lot of compelling evidence that this stuff exists and people would be incredibly shocked to learn that there are zero point energy devices while they're paying their utility company month after month to keep this old system in place just so their money can keep reeling. An analogy that I like to use is, I know someone who adopted some kids from a third world country and the first time they went into a grocery store they just dropped to their knees and started crying. They couldn't believe that there would be a room this big just stocked with food

47:58 you know, because where they're from that is a radically out of the box idea. And I think that the transition would be just as jarring for people if they really saw any of these technologies implemented because we haven't updated the electrical grid since i've been alive! I'm 30 years old and now we're still dealing with telephone poles and wires that are all hard lines to every house in the nation...I mean it's time to update Yeah, but I don't know that it is time to update. I think it's time to just get rid of it all together Well, there's no reason any longer why we should have centralized Distribution utilities right

48:42 You know, if sovereignty is the goal then individuals and small community groups need to be the ones who have the keys to power. Not centralized operations! It's so much easier and cheaper that way it costs so much money and being so difficult to create these big infrastructures Yeah, well I mean right now even with the existing technology we have. Right here where i am in Indonesia most of the power comes from diesel generator power plants and so they pull all these big diesel generator banks into one place generate the power there send it down send it through inverters where it loses 15 percent send it down transmission lines where it loses another 20 send it through more inverters and by the time it gets to

49:36 to a light switch, there's only 15% of that generated power there. Now if every home in this country had a small diesel generator that they connected straight up to their mains and without bothering with metering or anything like that then that itself would chop their bills, their usage, their consumption in third So, it's a massive already. It's just to keep this whole centralized distribution network we have is already a massive burden. We don't need that anyway so when you bring new technologies into the picture there as well it just makes even less sense to

50:22 to try and build a centralized grid. Agreed, man! And I'm glad that you guys have secured a little bit of land you're working towards that working towards the next phase because i mean i'm just a much bigger fan of that type of approach rather than the endless education because people... A lot of them aren't going to be convinced until they see a living working sustainable model then they can't call it impossible anymore so and that's a big part of them part of the manipulation from the puppet masters also is they convince us that these things aren't even possible. They say resources are limited, you know it's a dog-eat-dog world out there and it's hard to lie in the face of a working model so do you have any idea how close you are to that? I know the website throws out goals of having multiple cities open in March of next year... Is that still the plan?"

51:16 Under way by then perhaps yes, it's what we found is that it's difficult to put Timelines on things and in doing so we've actually in some ways slowed ourselves down because they create a liability for yourself You have to try and meet mm-hmm And that that runs contrary to the way through with the world works So the dates provided there are very much guide. But yeah, we would we would really do. We've seen no reason why in six months time there could not be half a dozen projects physically underway, but that's a guide only.

51:58 One more thing on that subject there are some various locations up on the New Earth site that are you know pointed out? On this globe image. Are those just hypotheticals or are those concrete locations because my question was there's a couple of them that seem to be within The United States and now it seemed pretty difficult to manage I would think Um, yeah I'm not so sure. I actually think the United States is the perfect place to do... um to run these kinds of initiatives Really? Yeah! I would be worried about regulation Well I think you, where you go to another area of the world. What you have in America is a system that's very highly developed now it's incredibly corrupt but it's very highly developed there are some real solid

52:55 rules and precedents established. And there are people who, even to this very day, obtaining really good judgments even going and taking our system on smack in the face the likes of Rod Class I'm sorry, but I did hear you talk about him before and i'm sure most of the audience isn't familiar. Can you talk a little bit about the details of the fight he's fighting? I can do yeah He um...I don't know his story intimately well But it's that the subject matter is relatively important. He was for one reason or another arrested without cause

53:36 and had his liberties removed, and took it upon himself to seek redress for that. And his process proceeds from the insight that every time a so-called citizen of America is prosecuted they're actually being convicted for war crimes, crimes against the state under the War Powers Act And so he's addressing that constitutionally. And I believe the case, he was due to have a hearing in the next few weeks but it has been completely dropped purely because of...I think it went behead before some other judge or tribunal and in the meantime who said this actually has merit you know sure that you want to continue with this Mr Prosecutor? But the point is

54:29 there are a lot of people who are having similar results. These things don't get generally come out publicly because it's not in the public interest as the system defines the public interest. Most of the cases and people I know that have had success, and there's this idea is 100% success ratio for those people who understand who they are. There's a litany of them. They're all over the place and it's happening every day but if the ones that are successful are not generally fighting publicly. They're conducting their own affairs privately and then matters are being settled, and it's happening all over the place but it's happening privately you can't bring truth into a public courtroom if you do that in itself is viewed by that system as a public nuisance or whatever yeah? Yeah And you can understand why You've got to put yourself in other people shoes I mean I've been in front of a great number of judges

55:31 And I haven't actually met a single one that, in my experience, is undoubtedly corrupt. I've met one High Court judge who was one of the most honorable and decent human beings I've ever met and a number of county court judges who were all variously had some level of morality or we're a little confused but I never met anyone, i've never come across one that was out and out belligerent myself. That's interesting, I mean i know you do have a high understanding of law and a lot of experience on how to deal with the system and since we're on the topic is there any general advice you'd give people when dealing with police because uh... a lot of this natural law and sovereignty stuff sounds good but i don't even think that police are informed sometimes there's this

56:29 insinuation that the police all know these secrets and they're just keeping it from you. And if you just ask the magic questions and say, the magic phrases you can get out of a speeding ticket but I don't think a lot of these cops are even informed to the basis of some of these things. How would you suggest people deal with them? Yeah well there's no magic questions to ask It's a case of guessing understanding who you are and applying it But is... There are some very simple principles that one can apply and I guarantee you will never be convicted of anything because it makes you essentially unconvictable. Everything that conducts itself in that world, every charge that comes along is contract an agreement needs to be reached before there can be anything

57:19 before anything continues. Now dealing with civil matters is a different thing but when we're just talking about petty criminal stuff or so-called criminal stuff, speeding tickets and you know not wanting not answering police questions not giving names all that kind of stuff it's really so incredibly simple the agreement that you need to provide is a name because you have to be some kind of, you have to agree that you are something that the system can see and understand. Yeah it can't be a um they can't be federal government versus spiritual being doesn't happen like that its verses name and it doesn't mean that we have to let go of all these things that

58:15 that we use to conduct our lives, it just means we need to address our relationships with them. They're asked what is your name? That's the question and the subtleties of language and the way it's used is where they're the key is here um anyone you start to really question the very fabric of everything you know you probably recognize that ownership is an illusion no one can own anything so concept the very question what is your name imply don't ship. And it implies that one who answers that question by giving a name is claiming ownership over something. It's implied there, you know what do those questions actually mean? There is one simple principle that can guide you through or anyone through interactions with police. It's to learn the art of asking questions from a space of peace

59:15 and good intentions i love the philosophy of it but i just worry about the real world application because you know for example if i get pulled over and then the cop wants me to sign this ticket if i don't sign it I'm told that right then and there, I'm going to be taken in. Well, I don't have that kind of freedom like I got somewhere to go you know? I'm on the road i need to get there so... I'm kinda stuck signing this ticket because I need the freedom to continue with my day um and I feel like if you take the route of the sovereign citizen sometimes your entering a lot more inviting a lot more trouble into your life or a lot more hassle is that not true

59:57 First of all, number one I would never suggest you go the route of a sovereign citizen because it is by its very nature aggressive and your going to lose at some point. People will say well i'm not doing this or no i won't give you a name these are energetic barriers Yeah, when you do those things you're actually creating a line between you and that other human being. And your only hope of really living this principle is when you connect with that other human being that you're engaging with. There is no uniform it's in your head and if you move past the idea then the whole idea that this othe man is going to cause you harm which is ludicrous

1:00:47 because he can't, because he doesn't have the power. He doesn't have any power that you don't give to him at the same time when we first start doing this it's not always as clear-cut as that We have to go through a few times before we really start to get it and if we are taking the stance well... It is more convenient for me to sign this piece of paper so I can get on my way and not be late for my meeting than it is go through this experience and learn from it, and educate some brothers in uniforms at the same time. If we're gonna walk away from that life experience then we deserve everything we get." Yeah that is a interesting way to look at it yeah It's an experience where you can actually change the way The system has control over you. Yeah but if you put a child

1:01:41 the It's not him that is doing it, it's the police officer that's doing it. We have to come back to that innocence of a child yeah? You've got love these people and I've had so much fun with at police stations with police officers. I always got a beaming smile on my face and its no forced! I really enjoy myself because I know this is my opportunity to change that man or these mens life forever This is my opportunity to help them see

1:02:24 the truth of who they are and the folly in the path that they've been taken. That doesn't happen from me telling them or dictating this is how it is and this is what you do, doesn't happen like that happens with the simplest of questions like um...you know if you are asked for a name just the simplest of questions but is there a law brother that requires me to have a name? you know, there's one that requires me to provide one if that is what you say I'll believe you. But is there a law that requires me to have one in the first place and could you show me that please brother? And then have some real fun! I remember being on a certain matter in a police interview and had been...I'd sit in a cell for an hour to wait for this because I've been through this experience a few times. I asked for a bible something to read

1:03:19 When we get to the police interview, Officer Dave... I've already got to know these local police officers and we've had a lot of fun because they bring the right energy to things. He sits down he says, Greg why is it that you don't want to give us a name? Why are you doing that?" And i'd been reading through his bible and I said brother let The Good Book answer this question for ya! And he says okay. Says do not give that which is sacred unto the dogs and do not throw your pearls to pigs And he was pissing himself laughing. He couldn't, it was being recorded by the Crown Prosecution Service who were gonna listen to this tape so he couldn't blot out big fits of laughter but he was laughing and holding his stomach and creasing himself. Just these simple things to make light of the situation just diffuse anything. Another similar interview I was... They started off with very official stuff

1:04:12 And I just said, guys before we start there's something you really need to know. It's really important that you know this and I just looked each of them in the eye and I said, I love you! And I love you! And I really meant it. There was stump, there was silence Jesus what do we now? And then for the next 20 minutes they sat down and answered my questions while I questioned It's really, really simple but you've got to be peaceful and you've gotta really care about those folks. If you're gonna be belligerent if you see them as the enemy You're gonna get your ass handed too. You're not going to learn anything. Your not gonna grow as an individual. Your not gonna get it." Wow that's a pretty insightful way to look at it man because I definitely have the wrong energy when a cop walks up to my window And maybe I should change that

1:05:00 Well, Greg I think that is as positive a note as any to kind of wrap this up on. I mean, I think this has been great It's been really informative and exciting We've had some struggles along the way to stay connected But are there any other words you'd like to leave the people with? Any advice on how to get involved With those already interested. I mean outside of the treaty or anything? Um... We're always looking for, we have a volunteer team at the moment of some 300 plus people. It's quite a big operation and there are a lot of key roles that we really need help with, key things that we really need help with if there are people out there who feel inclined to get involved

1:05:53 I'm to become involved in that administrative team for the tribunal for natural justice to help out with. PR works and IT director we're in desperate need of at the moment. A number of other key roles, anyone that has anything they really feel inspired to contribute to this initiative and this unfolding please get in touch with us. You guys are on Facebook and Twitter I'm sure as well right? Yeah we are yeah but contactatnewearthinstitute.org is the contact desk Generally email contact desk anyone that wants to get in touch and really support.

1:06:32 this process, it would be welcome with open arms. Awesome! Well people definitely anyone interested send Greg and the New Earth Nation social media pages your treaty declarations and thanks so much man I mean this has been a real pleasure keep doing what you do and hopefully we can change the world for the better Oh is that well it's already done Greg see that's just the thing that you said if there's anything else I'd like to share before we go I personally, i'm not here to change the world. This world is absolutely perfect just the way it is! It's...I am here to help share that realization that absolute peace, absolute joy, absolute happiness is here right now and its there for everyone That perfection, heaven on earth people have been searching for is already here right now And all we've got to do is just turn up

1:07:28 Well said and higher level thinking man, and I love it. And when those domes open up to the public let me know! I would love to come out there and cover that and i think the idea of those acoustics is pretty sweet Cool well like I say we have a prototype in our garden if you find yourself passing through Bali Greg anytime then you are welcome alright good to hear and thank you for that and again take care yourself i love what you're doing man have a good night. There we have it people. I apologize about some of the hiccups, but I edited that from a solid D to B- quality wise. Greg Paul was a great guest, way more positive than me lately, but its fun to talk to folks like that. It kinda rubs off on you

1:10:17 and I really only get 4 and some change after Paypal takes a cut, but the low price is there to bring in numbers. $25 is a barrier of entry that anyone with an internet connection and a smartphone can achieve if they make the choice. But in terms of today's show, I really liked the idea of fighting police with love rather than facing them in the streets by protesting from the philosophy that the external world And its energies are going to be a mirror of what you're putting out or feeling on the inside even just the intent I think there might be some truth

1:10:56 clashing of the state and the people, and just how futile it really is to try to win a game that way. Maybe we should kill them with kindnessness It's not what I always do but i'm glad that other people are out there doing it And I'd probably recommend it for you It's kind of in line with a Facebook post I made about Ferguson actually that was something to the effect of, wouldn't it be legendary if protesters in Ferguson decided to break the curfew by screening Remember The Titans on the side of the destroyed Quick Trip gas station? And that is largely phrased as joke but the point was How would that look on TV? How can you paint those people as looters, how can you twist black and white people sitting in a parking lot maybe grilling and watching a movie based on a true story that was overcoming racial issues.

1:11:41 And Ferguson is about way more than racial issues. It's about police aggression and the general disrespect that common folks, and more specifically poor folks get from the privileged police and the lack of consequences they have for any actions But the point is just instead of confrontation with police peaceful or otherwise throw a party spread some love give them a goddamn plate of ribs in a lawn chair and watch their brain break as these guys are ordered to arrest these people Mace these people, etc. Because when you face off against them their adrenaline is going They're buying into the bullshit that the common man is the enemy But if we're really kind to them in the face of that aggression maybe that spell can be broken You know Maybe they'll be going home at night kicking off their boots and just crying because they can't believe The side they're working for they now see the truth

1:12:35 I don't know, it's an idea but it takes a strong-willed higher level mindset like Greg Pauls to achieve that and maybe is the mindset we need. But I'm gonna shut up before i have to kick my own ass. So contribute your tunes to podcastmusicarchive at gmail dot com, tell your favorite other shows about the program pick up one of the amazing conspirates T-shirts I've designed a conspirates net to project these bold truths from your radiant chest and maybe sign up for plus and start commenting with the rest of these enlightened folks! I love you guys, I hope you return the sentiment and I'll see you next week. It seems as if the idea that true change comes from within is today's lesson, and nothing happens without taking the first steps to action... So it's your move audience! Your fucking move. I smoke a joint when I- gets my mind thinking And we start heavy drinking for everyone But it works just great for me Enjoy the weather in the sun

1:13:47 company I could explain it in detail when you visit you will see You'll have fun but you'll forget it all on sunny Sunday Stop faking, but it works just great for me Enjoy the weather and of course good company I could explain it in detail when you visit you will see You'll have fun but you'll forget it all on sunny Sunday Maybe I'm in a form of denial But you've got a form of denial

1:15:23 So I'll stop my conflict so you paper chase while I smoke a joint when I get my mind thinking And we start having drinks at one but it works just great for me Enjoy the weather and the sun, but for me I could explain in detail When you visit you will see You'll have fun but you forget it on sunny Sunday