George Wiseman | Brown’s Gas, AquaCure, & Suppressed Science

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01:27 These are the higher side chats. Well folks, another day another deep dive into the things they don't want us to know and the list is long We've heard many researchers tell stories of suppressed technologies that defy the carefully crafted scientific box They want us to stay inside of in the realms of anti-gravity free energy and medical devices that sound like miracle cures We've heard about new models they never taught us in school with things like ether physics, exotic properties of electricity and water plasma dynamics and organ energy. And we know the forgotten history of alternative fuels like hemp alcohol and even water before the oil only oligarchy made sure they got a decades-long monopoly selling us the only approved option

02:14 And something that has been mentioned by many previous guests when it comes to this sort of thing is what's most well known as Browns Gas, named after Yule Brown who dedicated a lot of his life to it in the 1970s. It is a substance which has gone by many names as various people have stumbled across or attempted to brand and monetize it But beyond the labels and names, what we're talking about is a process that can be done to water to create a cold negatively charged and electrically expanded plasma form of it. Today the man behind the wheel is the researcher and inventor George Wiseman, who has been working with Brown's gas since the 1980s. And has found practical applications for it that range from increased fuel efficiency powering flame torches that are cool to the touch in cleaning up nuclear waste... ...to growing bigger plants increasing the lifespan of pretty much anything and supercharging our immune systems in a way that seems to make dozens of conditions just melt away!

03:13 George has been an inventor most of his life and a lot of his work on things from brown's gas to free energy and fuel saving technology can be found on his website eagle-research.com, and I am psyched to get into it! The great Brown's Gas guru, electrically expanded water expert, and inventor extraordinaire George Wiseman welcome to the higher side! Oh my Goodness, what an introduction. Yeah and I'm hardly knowing what to say after all that you just pretty much synopsized most of my life Well man it is really an honor and a pleasure And i find this stuff to be super fascinating your work has been mentioned here many times And I'm looking forward to talking to the man himself I've heard so many of your interviews and it is hard

03:58 for them to not all start the sound the same when there's so much fundamental education to do on what this stuff really is i try to get us a little further downfield with that intro and basics on the history of browns gas in the technical definition but just to make sure everyone is onboard any interest have no child left behind What more would you say about what Brown's gas is beyond that simple definition of being an electron-dense plasma state of water? Okay, we can get into my history a little bit because your introduction mentioned suppression. Sure! And I have a couple of stories about that but to answer your question specifically Browns gas is

04:43 the entire mixture of gases that evolves or is generated in an electrolyzer specifically designed to make browns gas. Michael Faraday, over 150 years ago...over 170 years ago now developed an electrolyzer where you could just simply use electricity to split water into hydrogen and oxygen and because of the way that they did it traditionally all those decades and decades they separated the hydrogen out into one stream and the oxygen out into another stream with a membrane in between and all science classes, my own science class. Everybody does this to get pure hydrogen and pure hydrogen is very good there's a lot of good uses for it but back in the early 1960s a fellow by name William Rhodes who was literally a rocket scientist had over 100 patents to his name and he was an advisor at NASA up until 95 years old then dementia caught with him and died within a few year after that I met him personally he is amazing man and his research in mind

05:42 Our research files were virtually identical. It was astonishing, he allowed me to copy his files but what happened was he called it a single ducted gas He developed for a particular application that he was involved in. He developed electrolyzer that did not have a membrane in the middle so that hydrogen and oxygen all came out of the same hose. It turns out there was an additional gas made that he wasn't aware at the time And I still wish he was alive because he'd be fascinated with this that we call the electrically expanded water. So essentially you could think of the

06:19 electrolyzer where it has a positive and negative plate, they call it anode and cathode. And it builds an electron bridge across in the solution in the middle, the catalytic solution in the middle. Because of the way this bridge works with the anions and cations, it actually stuffs electricity into water so that water molecule actually soaks up electrons like a sponge soaks up water until it becomes an electrically expanded form of water that is not water vapor or steam it will not condense if you cool it, its stable. But it's a plasma form of water you've got four states of matter, your solid, your liquid, your gas and your plasma and the plasma is a gas that has this extra...it's ionized in this case a negatively charged one so it has extra electrons So Brown's Gas is a mixture up six different constituents measured with spectrographic analysis we discovered this First you have your normal hydrogen

07:13 H2, your normal oxygen O2. And then you have water vapor which any mixture of water would have some so you have some H20 that is water vapor and then you'll have the weirdnesses once You have H which is a simply hydrogen that is not diatomic it's monotonic hydrogen which is not supposed to exist and you have O again oxygen, monotonic oxygen which is not supposed to exist in stable state and then you have this electrically expanded water in our electrolyzers takes up about 30 to 40 percent of the gas. So these six different constituents all come out the same hose and so essentially that's what we call Browns Gas. Browns Gas is a gaseous mixture that's generated in an electrolyzer specifically designed not to separate the gases, doesn't have a membrane

08:03 So that's my answer to that question. Right on yes it gets pretty technical but i think that should make sense to everybody and you did mention the magic word suppression because I've heard you give interviews on a lot of biohacking and alternative health types of shows the way i get into these kind of fields is by being interested in suppression alternative history corruption corporate malfeasance if there, trying to keep something out of the culture usually for the sake of profits i'm interested in that kinda thing and so i end up having a crash course and pretty advanced science that even scientists are baffled by it seems most of the time but

08:46 You said maybe there are some stories of suppression and trouble in your history, and when I asked the audience for questions that seemed to be one of the big things they were curious about too. What can you tell us in that regard? Okay! I grew up on a cattle ranch way out in the boonies we didn't have electricity or anything we pretty much had to do everything ourselves and there was no indoor running water, it's plumbing. So we had gasoline engines though dad didn't like to start a tractor or gasoline engine if he didn't have to. If a horse or a kid would do it you had seven kids! Any machinery that needed fixed we had to learn to fix it ourselves so i grew up with this my driver type mentality fixing things with whatever was at hand and i have quite a few stories about using bailing wire and stuff did. But we can get into that another time the point is i learned how things really work

09:43 And my very first pickup truck was a 1966 Ford that we ended up dropping a 361 industrial engine in and it got as high as 45 miles to the gallon. I'm gonna say accidentally because i really didn't know that it was doing things that would increase the efficiency that much i was just doing things that work and. Incidentally my father would only allow us to fill up the fuel on our personal vehicles once a week so we have to be very frugal if you wanted to get anywhere do anything very much, I kind of fell into the fuel saving business, not knowing that was a no-no from the powers that be. They'd like to make lots of money from fuel oil and such

10:28 So starting in the early 70s, that's when I was working on the ranch and various tractors and stuff. It is astonishing how efficient tractors are! People don't know with their updraft carburetors and such like that they were really efficient but you'd never know that by miles per gallon on a road because you do not take a tractor on the road to do miles per gallon. You go round and round in any field but you can only use 5 gallons of gas for 100 horsepower engine in a whole day. So people didn't realize how efficient the technologies were out there where it wasn't causing any waves so in any case I decided to start a business after I left home and what have you selling this well, I did research in fuel saving and I became an automotive mechanic and I did research on things like vapor carburetors and this one particular

11:20 manifestation that I was using, which is actually an adaptation of a technology developed by Mercedes of Mercedes-Benz over 100 years before that. Just in the late 1800s early 1900's they developed this vapor carburetor system that was never put on a vehicle so a lot of things i did as an inventor with go back into your patents and find things and just bring them up into modern technology So this particular vapor system would pull air through the system, I call it the Heiko 2A And it would essentially pre-vaporize the fuel. The simple idea is, if you... I keep having to go back and back! The idea of getting better fuel mileage has to do with only gasoline vapors burned If you put any liquid gasoline into the engine, its pretty much wasted By the time it turns to vapor mixes with air It's already going out the exhaust

12:14 So to prevent fuel from going out the exhaust, they add even more fuel. And so that when the fuel vaporizes it actually makes a mixture that's too rich to burn and it quenches the fuel. That's also why you get a lot of carbon buildup in the engines and things like that. You're actually putting as much fuel at the exhaust or more than your burning in the engine for actual power So to get the most efficiency, you simply pre-vaporize the fuel so that when the spark plug fires, the fuel vapors burn and then it's done. You have cool exhaust and very high efficiency." Okay, so the idea is to vaporize as much of the fuel as possible before the spark plug fires and this evaporator system would do that

12:53 So a portion of the fuel would go through this evaporization system, so I wouldn't need as much of the liquid fuel that regular carburetor would put out to make the vapor that i needed for the engine to run. So I had two fuel systems going at the same time. I had this vapor fuel system and my carburation system and as the engine vacuum would drop in other words go toward more atmospheric pressure The regular carburation system would take over and as the engine vacuum with rise where it's going to let engine load. The vapor system will take over more in this particular system, and i needed a way to shut off the regular carburetor exact ratio to the vaporization system outside be putting fueling from two different systems and i developed something that i subsequently call the carburetor enhancer and i would

13:39 essentially putting a vacuum on the float bowl of the regular carburetor, and the more vacuum you put on the float bowl, the less fuel would go off into the engine. So as the vacuum would rise and more vapors would be coming in from the Heiko 2A, the vacuum would also prevent fuel from going into the carburetor so that made it really good balanced system. And then I was going to mechanic school at the time, and in this particular 1977 Velari vehicle with it about a 350 cubic inch engine and my vapor system wasn't working so I shut it off to drive into town. And as I drove into town and back out again, I noticed my fuel mileage was about 30% higher than the normal range like I kept close records of my fuel economy So like I would know what I was doing is working or not. So I shut off that device That I now call the carburetor enhancer because I had accidentally left that turned on so it's putting a vacuum on the float bowl

14:34 And it turns out that vacuum on the float bowl was also increasing in the carburetor. They have something called emulsification or air bleed systems, and that's what turns the fuel gush into a fuel spray which increase the size of the spray droplets affects how much of the fuel evaporates. So, the carburetors with very good air bleed systems got a much better fuel economy and in this particular case by putting a vacuum on the float bowl I increased the efficiency of the air bleed system of the carburetor enough that i was getting a 30% increase in the fuel economy. I shut it off and it went right back to baseline. I turned it on...30 percent increase

15:10 So all of a sudden I had something you could buy at $5 worth of parts, at a hardware store. Modify the carburetor take about an hour hood up to hood down and you get a 30-25% increase in fuel economy now the carburetors like the Ford Motorcraft 2150 got essentially 100 percent increase in fuel economy because it has such advanced air bleed systems in it so all of a sudden I have something that can sell So i started selling the carburetor enhancer first i was just installing on hundreds of people's vehicles in my local area and i had people booked three or four weeks in advance and back to back lining up in the driveway getting these systems on. And then it turned into a do-it-yourself book because I approached this particular company that did infomercials and they were very interested in this

15:58 The advantage of this feels ever and that like say back in the seventies or eighties feel saving was a big thing. But then they immediately after they learned that it was only five dollars apart you could buy in hardware store they said no we won't take it on, we want something is pretty much exclusive you can just build yourself so i thought to myself why don't i just write up assembly plans and start selling a book on how to do this and go mail order, and what have you. And that sold really well, really really well the book. And a lot of people hundreds thousands of people were getting better fuel economy I think i've helped over 300 000 people get better fuel economy so far to date Wow! And then people were saying Well I don't want to go to the hardware store and buy these things Can you sell a kit? So I sold a kit. And that did fairly well We weren't really getting into the suppression part Really at that point but it must have caught somebody's attention

16:54 Because when i started then selling the paper system that went with that the high school to a system, i started telling it was fine and up to about five thousand dollars a month income was fine but right about the point where i really accelerated. And i was going out to about fifty thousand dollars a month income i would shut down i will shut down hard and the first thing that they did What is the simply shut off all of the deliveries in the united states and canada dual citizen i was working both countries and send mail out in both countries, next to the border anyway the point was. I was a way writing a book at that time and my mail room people had filling orders if customer reported back that they have received their package i would automatically just send one because you know what in a hundred or so a few years will get lost end

17:51 But it turned out that all of them all packages a certain size were not getting delivered to the customers so i came back from my sabbatical having written another book and discovered what was going on so at this point, who times are sending out have been gone and im very poor business man so i didn't have a very high markup on these cuz i was trying to save people money. So at this particular point i had to send out a third one and then the third one i am sure every single package for three times the value of what was in the package you can do that back in those days now they don't like it, and then a month later when they still weren't getting everybody who bought one still wasn't getting one i went to my post office with his fist full

18:37 Insurance receipts i try to submit them and say oh no you have to be ninety days it has to be ninety days not delivered before. You can submit the thing so i waited the ninety days and i went to submit them what they did was a send a letter out everybody asking, did you actually receive this package before they would pay me my insurance Every single one of those third what that i had insured was then delivered to the person three days before they receive the letter saying did you received a package. Interesting how about that but it was out of business at that point i was out of business, it took me years to get back but when i came back they started doing some other interesting things

19:24 like in Canada they have a program called CBC and on CBC, they have show called Marketplace. And Marketplace it looks at frauds and things like that because I was selling the fuel saver i was on the list that they were checking out to check out for fraud well they did report on five fuel savers that didn't work mine was not one of them once reported on because my fuel saver did work and when they tested it, it worked so they essentially put on a program told everybody that you'll save us don't work and give these five examples, add it pretty much made my canadian sales drop off to nothing almost overnight because people assume that no fuel savers work even though my feel safer was not. On the list so thats one way that suppression happens but i was also investigated seven times by various government agencies

20:17 play the state attorney general of idaho by canadian consumer and corporate affairs by a whole bunch of different entities investigated my business seven different times, every single time there was no issue with the business because i had zero customer complaints not one single customer. they could find would testify against me. In fact, it's funny there was a guy in Washington State that I met at one time during one of my trips out and he said George i want to be a distributor he said I bought your fuel saver knowing that it wouldn't work I tested on my car and it worked better than I ever could imagine He said I bought it specifically because I was going to sue you. Alright

21:03 He said, but I can't sue you. It works! So I'd like to be a distributor." Wow well that does make me think of a recent guest i had-a friend of mine really who made the point that yes there is suppression when it comes to alternative fuels energy and medicine but there's also a lot of bullshit too and because of his history in the venture capital space he knows people who say they have investigated so much of this now is find, the results to be oversold or it's not scalable etc etc because there are independent angel investors out there and.

21:40 Now even Dogecoin millionaires, but really these people with deep pockets who would gladly fund some of these projects. Why is there such a problem connecting inventors in the alternative space with these investors? That is a really good question and speaking from the inventor side I've had several different investors approach me and It turned out there was only one angel that really came through and did things. I had a person one time, i lived out in the country who flew into, in this case it was British Columbia Canada to local large town rented a limo to come out to my little farm dripping with diamonds this particular person

22:28 and interviewed me and what have you, and went away. And I never heard from her again. I am not exactly sure why or what the situation was but there were people who came and looked things over and maybe i was a goat farmer and not being very impressive they decided my technology wasn't worth anything because i didn't have the face for it. I clean up nice by the way if you've probably seen some videos that showed me in... But anyway There was one investor eventually that brought me on to his mind site in galloway, in british columbia and said i will pay for all your expenses give you a place to live. In fact even had made cleaning up the house that i was living in is it only have to do this work in the space and develop this technology

23:17 Essentially I was taking over from a former inventor that had been working there on Brown's Gas and had abandoned the project. So they looked to the guy who wrote the books on Browns Gas, and that was me, and I was actually living not too far from there about three hours from that particular mine site so it was a slam dunk to go over And at that point I had become divorced with my wife and I'd lost my little farm and I was kind of open So it worked out really well. I went on to this mine site and i worked about 16 hours a day in this little laboratory, and what he wanted was brown's gas to treat ore that's what the mine site was about And I did that! It worked really REALLY WELL For example with copper ore you can increase three times the amount of copper you got from the same ore if you cooked it with the brown's gas. It was phenomenal

24:11 So he was really happy and we had a good relationship there. And at that point I developed the large water torches and what have you, he sponsored that research as well. The research really got ahead from that particular angel but most other investors they want control They want something it's already ready to go and then they want control of it as well I even tried with the AquaCure machine. I tried approaching people from Shark Tank to get them interested, and I couldn't even get past the people you have to get past to talk to the people. They weren't interested! And...I've made millions of dollars now selling the AquaCure machines and these guys just from essentially working in a two-car garage, they would have made hundreds of millions of dollars

25:03 And they still would and they so could if they were invested in it now if they invest it yeah mark you been where yet but man i do wanna get deeper into the aqua cure and just to let the audience know Obviously along the way you've discovered multiple different uses for Brown's gas. People should watch your presentation at the water conference in Germany a few years back because you do run through these apparently, You can clean radioactive waste more efficiently than anything in a very short amount of time. You created a flame torch, a welding torch that can burn through tungsten but isn't hot to the touch

25:43 I mean there seems to be a lot of applications but this or thing you're talking about, this is really interesting to me because we like to talk about things like alchemy and transmutation. And on your website there is a mention of transmutation and you say that maybe there's been a discovery of two different processes that would work here? That was also one of the audience questions do you consider yourself an alchemist but Apparently when you cook minerals in browns gas, you can make rubies sapphires diamonds precious stones You mentioned moonstone being made from feldspar Can you elaborate a little bit on this because it seems pretty powerful a little mystical I'll start with not diamonds It burns diamonds diamonds are carbon and the browns gas one of the reasons it works in fuel saving so well is that? increases the combustion efficiency of carbon-based fuels by

26:37 being a catalyst that lowers the endothermic energy necessary to break apart the carbon bonds. And so it does that really efficiently with diamonds, so it doesn't melt diamonds or make diamonds, it burns diamonds. So if anybody has a wedding ring they don't want anymore they can get rid of that diamond! Fair enough... Okay but everything else you said absolutely right one of things in this particular mine they had was very clean feldspar and if you have clean feldspar that doesn't have very much iron in and you melt it, it makes a transparent moonstone. And there's only one place in the world where you can get transparent moonstone but you can artificially make it with the browns gas and that is stronger than steel. In fact they did an article in Popular Mechanics about making bridges out of moon stone because they'd last forever be corrosion resistant and their stronger than steel and all that stuff so

27:27 I used to do a little dog and pony show every Saturday at the mine where he'd have investors come in, and I'd show them all the amazing things that browns gas can do. It was fun! But everything else—the rubies, the sapphires, the emeralds—all those kind of things you can make with the browns gas just by melting the corundum with the appropriate impurities in it to make the various colors. By the way, if there's iron in the Moonstone, it makes it black so you can have transparent or black or anything else depending on what impurities are in there. As far as the two different ways of transmutation... Yes, the browns gas does transmutation two different ways. One of the ways we discovered was

28:09 You remember my mentioning this character is a ms jacob he fell down some stairs and broke his neck supposedly it's so that isn't happening anymore but. He was using this machine for years that i had given him and during those years time, key brother machine up three different times for clean out the sludge form in the machine Now, originally we thought that sludge was pretty much from any impurities that were in the water. Because impurities are in the water you put it into the machine and stay on the machine and only the hydrogen or oxygen from the water come out. Turns out that wasn't really true! While some of that is happening, it turns out that the actual sludge is transmuted material

28:53 We tested that material and found that it contained exactly, in exact ratio the same materials as in stainless steel plates. Stainless steel and we were using stainless steel plates as electrodes so we had 19 pounds of electrodes when the machine is new. We took 19 pounds of essentially sludge stainless steel out of the machine over these three clean-out times now there was a little water and sweat but essentially 19 pounds, and the plates still weighed 19 pounds after three clean-outs. So the machine was making stainless steel iron and chromium and those kind of materials inside the machine itself so that's one way that transmutation is happening another way that it happens is what we were talking about just recently where we're cooking the ore

29:44 So if you have an ore, and I was a prospector for awhile as well. And learned a bunch of things. There's creeks that generate gold! There is no mother load but the creek has gold in it every year if you're doing plaster mining and water comes down so the prospectors theorized that there was some sort of transmutation happening upstream, where when the water is going over certain minerals it would build up a mixture like making a cake for example. You put these ingredients together and you cook them and then you have a cake but if you don't cook it you don't end up with the cake so what we're thinking is when you have certain combination of materials together like the things that make copper

30:26 actual copper metal from the copper ore and you cook it, you get that copper. I theorize that when you're cooking it with the browns gas flame, cooking this ore that isn't copper and wouldn't show up in copper in any kind of an assay but now you're cooking the ore more if it turns to copper than there was before. So that's why you're getting three times more copper out of the ore then you would otherwise And there are some other side effects like the platinum-based metals a lot of times they can't get processed because there is too much iron and the iron interferes with the processing Whereas when you cook it with the browns gas, you cook the iron off and then you can process the ore and get more of their platinum-based metals. There are lots of different ways that you could use the flame to make a higher quality or get more metal out of it so that's the kind of things we're talking about with the transmutation... Oh! Then there is this third thing sorry I forgot about this one

31:19 There was a fellow by the name of Joseph Bender and Norman Wooten who were working together, I think his company is called Rainfresh back in the day. I haven't heard from them in quite awhile but they called me up one day and they said we made New Water and New Water is where you collect the condensation from the flame. So, the hydrogen and oxygen of the browns gas is turning back into water and we call that new water. There's various reasons why we call it new water but you collect that condensation then they put in a bottle and the bottle was sitting next to another bottle which has the same size in shape because it was a minerals bottle. I don't know if they still do it where you had 50 different minerals, you put them in the cup and drink that down to get your vitamin minerals kind of thing So these two bottles were sitting on the shelf and the sunlight was shining through the full bottle, mineralized bottle And in the shadow of that bottle was the bottle of new water They noticed there was a sludge forming in that new water

32:16 And that doesn't make any sense at all because there's nothing in that bottle but H2O. And they tested that sludge, it ended up being about 10 ounces as I understand which was really significant amount of sludge They tested that and found that it contained every single mineral that was in that bottle, that was sitting next to it. That was being imprinted on from the sun from the solar. Wow! I thought that's where you're going to go with that and I've heard little examples and stories like that... The memory of water and apparently this ability for it to transport things? That's crazy! I love hearing that though. Yes

32:57 There's way more about water that we don't know than we do. I can tell you that for absolute fact, I've seen some things that I haven't been able to duplicate but they happened at least once and I know personally that they did happen so I don't know how to duplicate it happening but there are things that happened that would revolutionize the world as we know it. It is astonishing just as an example one particular experiment and I had a friend of mine lives in Germany now married woman over standing next to me when this happened. We had an electrolyzer running, it was one of my very early designs I still have it actually and It was producing about a bubble a second okay about 1 quarter inch diameter bubble a second just boop boop boop Nothing very exciting or anything we were just running it there testing one particular thing or another And all the sudden for no reason I know whatsoever

33:52 it started to produce, I'm going to say at least a thousand times more gas. It practically blew the water out of the cup that the hose was in. It was just huge amount for a few seconds! It wasn't just an explosion it continued like that and then all sudden there was almost a ping sound and then it went back to boop-boop We hadn't been standing there watching it at that instant, we wouldn't have seen this astonishing amount of gas where something all lined up in that electrolyzer to the point where it was splitting water with no more electricity than normal. And this particular power supply that I was using was amperage limited. It was fixed. There was no way you could suddenly be putting a thousand times more wattage into the machine

34:43 So that there was no possible way that could happen. Interesting man this is exciting there's a lot of kind of advanced and weird stuff i want to ask you about but i can't believe we've gone over thirty minutes in barely mentioned the aqua cure. This is something people are gonna wanna know about it is the water electrolyzer browns gas machine that you sell retail for, the health benefits and you can both drink the water once the bubbles go through it and inhale the gas There's a range of conditions that seem to go away and not list is very long because it really just apparently allowing the body to self correct. Will you list the various conditions in the water conference presentation things like melanoma arthritis skin conditions autoimmune issues hair growth libido general vitality

35:36 Can you maybe talk to us about some of the most impressive testimonials you've heard recently and maybe demystify the healing for people what is going on under the hood when we really get down to it. Oh man let's in short say it helps the body heal from virtually every ailment don't demand Powerful statement. Whatever ails you, you're likely to do it and just give a little background on that our bodies are 62% hydrogen 24% oxygen 12% carbon and 2% everything else vitamins minerals that people usually concentrate on instead of the 62%. So hydrogen is our most important macro nutrient

36:18 And most people aren't getting the hydrogen that they need because the way that hydrogen is generated in the body, it's been compromised. We can get into that a little later if we have more time. So hydrogen supplementation is absolutely essential in order for people to get healthy and just a quick little history I stumbled into the Brown's gas for health, the Hydrogen for Health it was actually almost beat upon me by my customers. I had no idea that hydrogen could be used for health, one of my customers in 1996 had one of these water torches and for some reason i have no idea why bubbled the gas in water and put her in a cotton sponge and put on the melanoma on his forehead and then within three weeks it healed the melanoma. I did not believe him

37:07 But I did send out the information to the other thousands of people like, I knew that had a saying it's potential use for health. The browns gas and hundreds of these people had Brown's gas machines have one kind or another and started experimenting with it And the testimonials I was getting back were astonishing but it still took me until 2005 nine years before I actually drank a glass of bubbled water myself And so I started drinking the bubbled water just to prove it was safe, so that I could endorse it. I haven't been sick since then. I've had sniffles a couple of times but in a few hours its been gone and both those times were after long distance flights on an airplane interestingly enough

37:51 Wow. Where I didn't have my browns gas and drinking the water or anything, and one was intercontinental in other words other flights long flights so getting back to the Brown's Gas for Health then in 2007 I started selling machines because in two years I hadn't ever got sick and like I was fine I said I endorse it here is a machine that is specifically made for or optimized for bubbling of water And then from 2007-2016 People were asking me, can we inhale the gas? And because I was always using it for combustion. I was always saying no it's an explosive mixture don't inhale that! I don't want to see people's lungs splattered on the walls and I was wrong. I was very very very wrong because in 2015 December of 2015 a customer sent me a video saying or showing Korean hydrogen bar and the machine they were using in there with a browns cast machine in the hydrogen bar. I knew that machine very well

38:50 And people would just come in and buy a treatment like we'd buy a cup of coffee. They sit there for awhile in comfortable chair and kind of meditate, inhale the browns gas. I realized at that point what I should have realized right from the start is if you mix the brown's gas with enough air it is not explosive and your still getting therapeutic benefit Now about that time in 2007, a fellow by the name of Tyler DeBaron who was medical student at the time got ahold of me because he was very interested in hydrogen for health and we did a few consultations and we've kept in touch ever since. So now he's Dr. Tyler de Baron has one of the very best hydrogen for health websites molecularhydrogeninstitute.com on the internet so as it progressed my wife at the time late wife now said

39:39 No one would ever buy this piece of scientific looking apparatus and no woman would buy it. So she advised me to put it in a case and then my current wife said the same thing along with some, a lot of other people. So once I started inhaling the gas in March 2016 and decided that it was safe and efficacious too because I thought it was healthy at the time. I did not inhale the gas because I was expecting to get healthier or to have any health benefits which I've had many health benefits It's amazing. People guess my age at 10 to 15 years younger than I am, my hair has started growing back when neuropathy is disappeared, my warts disappeared and no longer needed wear glasses there are so many things that happen i can't even remember all the things that I was living with before in any case I did build it into a case and stuff and then that became the first aqua cures that I introduced at Tesla symposium

40:37 Albuquerque new mexico back in twenty sixteen and everything is developed from them impressive n. just for people who are unfamiliar. There's been several studies that have done on plants, apparently they grow three times bigger or 10 times bigger in a hydroponic process fish swimming in it have grown three times in size and apparently live longer chickens that were given browns gas doubled their egg yield overnight It seems like there is just so many applications for anything thats living

41:14 Benefits from this you mentioned that our hydrogen sources have been compromised what's that about. Okay so we can't breathe in hydrogen because there really isn't any hydrogen in the air it's an oxygen nitrogen mixture so where do we get our hydrogen from people would ask and you get it from your food we hydrocarbons okay which are, hydrogen attached to carbons and we have to digest but it takes a lot of energy to break apart the hydrogen carbon bonds So we start by masticating our food in our mouth and putting in some enzymes, and then the food goes down into the stomach and the acids work with it. And then it goes to your lower intestines where you've got your bile and everything, so digestion takes place. Then it gets to the colon. This is the important part as far as hydrogen is concerned because specialized bacteria that break apart after this food has all prepared and the enzymes and catalysts are there, the bacteria use that to break apart the hydrogen-carbon bonds

42:09 and the hydrogen then goes out into the bloodstream in your colon. Your colon actually breathes, that's where you get your hydrogen from! And if you have stinky gas coming out to your rectum that's methane and that means the hydrogen breaking hasn't been very complete... You've got your poor hydrogen attached to a carbon and that makes the methane gas coming out When it breaks down entirely, the gas that comes out your backside if it hasn't gone through your colon is actually not smelly. It's hydrogen gas coming out of you so that's how you get your hydrogen normally now what happens is virtually everything that we use in our modern technology kills those bacteria they glyphosate in the artificial sweeteners

42:58 all these different chemicals and antibiotics. Antibiotics kill bacteria, that's what they're made to do! And they kill the good bacteria along with the bad bacteria so people take probiotics and stuff but probiotic mixtures don't have these particular bacteria in them yet because it is still a new science learning about this thing that generate the hydrogen. So, that's why we're doing a hydrogen supplementation because we don't have those bacteria in our guts anymore because our modern civilization with the miracles of antibiotics and all these other chemicals have killed those bacteria. Well, that's a great explanation. We know that so many industrialized processes particularly in food and medicine are super backwards and not yielding nearly the results that the arrogance of the industries would suggest And I mean, that's just more fuel for the fire Yeah! And i know you're always getting testimonials about all kinds of things people are seeing with their use of the aqua cure and browns gas and people have used it on their pets

44:02 I heard you mention in one previous interview that some pregnant ladies were opting to use it and you were interested in seeing those results. Is there any follow-up on that? Not specifically, there have been pregnant ladies use it and they haven't gotten back to me about their results I'm assuming everything went well, because i think it would have hurt if didn't. Right right And when we were talking about the fish the fish would grow three times faster not three times bigger so in the same time like say a month range your fish will be three times bigger but when they reach the full size that they would normally reach they wouldn't get any bigger than that they just grow faster. Right on faster but live longer huh? and they lived longer thats exactly right as well and that goes back to

44:49 There's a Japanese study that had to do with, because Japanese have an obsession with long life. Long healthy life and in this particular study that they did I'm saying 10 years or so ago they took a group of families that were long-lived all the members in the family tended to live 100 plus years old and a group that were very short lived they would live only in the 50 60 year range as a family and they measured the hydrogen output, the hydrogen in the breath of both these groups of people. And they found it was consistent that the people that did not live long did not have very much hydrogen in their output breath because when they eat and the hydrogen goes into their bloodstream through their colon

45:36 any excess hydrogen is exhaled. And that's the same with the bronze gas machine or the aqua cure, if you inhale more hydrogen than you need your body just exhales the excess that's why there is virtually zero toxicity and a group of Japanese that were long-lived had consistent excess hydrogen in their output breath so they concluded that the hydrogen was a major contributor to the longevity of these Japanese families follow that up with several mouse studies that showed a 30-50% increase in the lifespan of a mouse, because humans of course were living over 100 years old theoretically. At least 80 I think the median age is at 82 right now So it takes a long time to learn if you're inhaling hydrogen. I've only been inhaling hydrogen since March 2016 so however long it is at that time and I started when I was near 60 years old

46:31 It'll be tough to know how much longer my life would have been, and it would be very interesting to know if people young people would be inhaling this right from the start. How long their lives will be? But the mouse study showed a 30-50% life extension and there was one particular rat study that was doubling its lifespan and they killed the rats because the experiment was over with, and they were using the hydrogen to do some other medical things for heart conditions. They weren't actually measuring lifespan but the rats weren't dying! Wow, so they just killed them because they're living to kill him. Yeah Who knows how long those rats would have lived? All right Well that science for you That's how they do things in that science business world But so I gotta ask you this this pandemic thing we've been dealing with it should probably get a mention I've actually heard you talk about some pretty heartwarming stuff that you've seen in the past year was sharing of machines people running hoses over to a neighbor and self-healing outside of the Rockefeller medical system but

47:34 But instead of medically induced comas, ventilators, lockdowns and quarantines and now this rights restoring nearly mandatory vaccine. If the CDC had just mailed everyone an aqua cure would that have been enough to solve this problem? Absolutely no question whatsoever absolutely and some people even floated that idea to me how much would it take if i had a couple billion dollars how many machines can make anything but turns out that people didn't understand this disease, i'll be very specific on there but then i wanted to talk about an inexpensive mitigation that would have stopped this disease in its tracks.

48:18 Let's just point out that browns gas is actually there's a book out on hydrogen for mitigating the virus de jure. But getting back to the actual browns gas, it's the number one treatment in China for mitigating this virus de jure. Number 1! And there are Chinese videos that are showing at the point where people would be getting a ventilator if the disease had progressed to the point where the cytokine storm in the lungs was happening and it's very important to know the pathology of the disease before you actually start to treat it. And that's what is happening, people don't know the actual pathology of the disease but in any case when they started inhaling the browns gas even if they're at a point where doctors would want to ventilate They start breathing easier and their blood oxygen levels come up from just inhaling the browns gas and within three days are walking out of hospital It's that profoundly efficient

49:18 I have not heard of a single person getting this virus du jour who is inhaling the browns gas every day. They may become infected, but they show no symptoms and there is no such thing as an asymptomatic spreader either by the way. There was a 10 million person study that proved that as well as a bunch of other smaller studies And that was being proven even shortly after The Princess cruise ship Even before that they were showing that there are no asymptomatic spreaders, but then we'll get back to why there isn't okay There's two things I want to do first of all the pathology. Yes this particular virus is Extraordinarily easy to mitigate if you know what's actually going on and what's actually going on is It's a blood disease not a respiratory disease The doctors can be forgiven up until now because they should know by now

50:16 Because that it's a respiratory disease because when the people would can't breathe and go to the hospital That's what they would be thinking is they're trained to think horses not unicorns trained to think if people can't breathe There's low blood oxygen. It's a lung problem If not used to having a blood problem now doctors that were used of blood problems like cancer or the blood and stuff like that Where the blood doesn't carry oxygen very well, they started to think this other thing that could possibly be. And so what happens is the virus gets into the red blood cells and kicks out the iron, there's no iron in the red blood cells, the red blood cells can't carry oxygen. So you have blood circulating in your system that isn't picking up any oxygen and your blood oxygen levels drop. That's the very first symptom of this virus du jour

51:03 So if everyone was given a pulse ox meter so they could measure their own blood oxygen every morning, and as soon as it started to drop they could self-isolate and treat it. This thing would be over in two weeks the whole thing would be done gone that's it! That's the easy thing now getting back to the actual pathology virtually every symptom of this virus is caused by low blood oxygen, the kidney failures, the blood clots, all the kind of things that are happening. So as soon as you can get the blood oxygen level back up... so what would happen with these normal treatments that really work but don't require a vaccine is it would get the virus kicked out of the red blood cell and the way to do that is to put a bunch of zinc into the red blood cells but you can't put the zinc into the red blood cells without something called an ionophore

51:55 an example of the ionophores is hydroxychloroquine, but there's beyond aside. There's a whole bunch of different ionophores that can put zinc into the red blood cells as soon as this ink is in the red blood cells it stops the viral replication and The red blood cell can recover and pull the iron which is still floating around in the plasma So iron heme ferritin whatever you want to call It goes back into the red blood cells and they start carrying oxygen again that quickly But the browns gas, with these electrons in the electrically expanded water when the electrons get onto the red blood cell even if it doesn't have very much iron in it. It gives the red blood cell a charge and that charge accepts the oxygen grabs the oxygen so even if you have low iron in your red blood cells The Brown's gas immediately within minutes gets the Oxygen levels back up in your blood because it allows blood to start accepting oxygen again

52:52 And now we get into suppression. Obviously no treatment, including the number one treatment in China so what is it 1.4 billion people or whatever? This is the number one treatment right here for the virus de jure and over in China they're not having any troubles with the virus they're going full steam over there and over here it's all about getting the vaccinations and the reasons for that. I'm not sure how much your people know about that, but probably too much But it makes no sense to treat the virus with Vaccinations because now we're getting into exactly the same situation That we did with antibiotics overuse of antibiotics made super bacteria over use of the vaccines

53:39 is doing exactly the same thing. It's making super mutant strains because any virus that survives the vaccination now can spread and become stronger and stronger, so instead of viruses dying out like the common cold does every winter, the vaccinations are making it stronger and stronger Then we get into the pathogenic priming and the prions and stuff like that. I don't know if you can get into that, but the vaccinations are a very bad idea. And the Brown's gas machines not only take care of the virus du jour but they help all ailments everything in your body it brings it to homeostasis and you get healthy and you live long and you live healthy. You live an enjoyable life

54:22 Yeah i mean that is very consistent with what a lot of guests have talked about around here it's crazy that so many people can be on the same page yet can't seem to break through to the main stage. It's an interesting situation when but, When it comes to the AquaCure machine, it must be very frustrating to have this kind of miracle device and yet its not breaking through to the degree that is should. You say on the website that you can't legally call the AquaCure a medical device so you say it's for use in plants and animals until your able to get a medical certification where are you in that process?

55:03 There's actually a process in the United Kingdom going right now to get a medical certification for the AquaCare, but that takes quite a long time. Yeah it's not a vaccine right? Not an experimental gene therapy they can just get on the market No no no its food! This is food its literally food It's the same as you would get from your food Its not a drug and your body responds to it just like food And if you've been deprived, if you've been deficient in this nutrient your body has shut down those extraneous systems like your regeneration system and your immune system and all that kind of thing. As you get this food well then your immune systems turn back on

55:43 you heal from viruses like all my warts disappeared because that was a virus I had for 50 years and when my immune system got strong enough it got rid of those. And as my regeneration systems came back online, all my scars disappeared off my body because instead of patching the skin, my body could actually do the stem cells and regenerate the skin! Wow It's astonishing Yeah, it's just amazing. Wow! Well we got a crash course in all kinds of stuff today I definitely appreciate it and as we're winding down here I obviously will add a link to your website and the show notes but is there our next phase or new area of invention you're working on anything to say about future plans people should know? For myself I'm pretty much just

56:28 concentrating the next few years in this aqua cure thing, getting this brown gas for health thing out there until Divine tells me that I've done my job and allows me to get back to my free energy research. Which my first projects will be like that Lord's pump they talked about earlier and perhaps a couple of the electromagnetic field collapsing experiments as well. I have all of the technology in storage all my experiments and equipment and everything sitting there waiting for me, when I get back to it that's what i'll be doing. Right on you're on a mission from god right along with the blues brothers. I literally am yes. Yes awesome man well this has been awesome we covered alot of ground and I know its marathon around here so I definitely appreciate it I wish you the best keep fighting the good fight take care

57:18 Greg, it's been a pleasure to be on and I look forward to continuing this stuff and helping anybody who listens to you and wants to be helped. Well well well! We finally did it after many mentions of George Wiseman and Browns Gas we got the lowdown from the man himself And there is just so much to know that we probably could have done three or four hours Obviously, because of the format of the show it was important to talk about the AquaCure and the health implications in the first hour. And with so much background and interesting stuff about fuel economy and other uses I was getting a little nervous there! I had some follow-up questions that i just had to let go because the health stuff is so important but I think we were still able to do it justice for the free show listeners

1:02:20 And as I usually say, the Plus Show adds so much. Today was actually really powerful one of my favorites in a long time we laughed we cried We talked about story in a person's life and destiny and life path To me it put the importance of the AquaCure over-the-edge Maybe it sounds weird to vet this type of device that way but if you heard The Plus Show then I think you know what I mean that part of the conversation added a level of authenticity it is really hard to imitate and you have to be real psychopaths to go there without being genuine. So having never experienced brown's gas having only seen positive reviews i mean even clive de carl advocates for the aqua cure, and then having that added conversation at the plus people heard i'm on board i bought one myself let see how it goes

1:03:22 But as for other plus topics, we talked about frequency modulation with the AquaCure. Free energy technology. Ezekiel's wheel. Antigravitic craft technology. How Browns gas compares to EZ water? One of my favorite parts plasma-based life forms and waveform intelligences! George had some interesting thoughts there And we talked about cavitation in zero-point energy, the philosophy and unorthodox business ethics that George lives by. And signs from the afterlife I hate to tease stuff and oversell it but i thought it was one of the best second hours in a while and we covered a lot of ground that was pretty unexpected help me help you In times like these signing up for THC plus is a small but meaningful revolutionary act

1:04:17 And by introducing you guys to people like Dr. Lando and George Wiseman, can you see how we're slowly show-by-show eroding the stranglehold of the big machine? We're breaking the paradigm and cutting into their market share—damn near monopoly really—on health & wellness and the information that's allowed to get out and where our money goes! We all have limited funds, but every dollar spent on THC Plus or the books products and services of our guests is a dollar that's not going to Walmart or Amazon or Domino's. Or any of the mega corporations trying to completely destroy Any & All Alternatives and give you only shiny shallow bullshit

1:05:07 So consider your role in the revolution. If it's not THC+, I hope you're voting with your dollar somehow, but that's the show! I'm psyched to get my Aqua Cure and report back. I haven't really taken the leap on very many things that come up on THC when it comes to like making a purchase of something. I tend to get really excited about each and every subject and then it's just onto preparing for the next show But not this time. I pulled the trigger today! My personal health is pretty much fine, but i did this mainly because I know a lot of people with the exact conditions mentioned today and getting them to try something like this doesn't seem like too far of a stretch Getting them to arrange a Power-of-Eight intention session is probably a bridge too far for the people I know

1:05:59 But breathing in Brown's gas is an easier sell. It doesn't really stretch the mind too far outside of conventional thinking, so let's give it a go! If you're feeling the same way definitely use that coupon code HIRESIDE and get 20% off $500 off Big thanks to George for offering that and for his time and for his work if you get the chance tell him that it made an impact on you As for us, I think we've been on a roll lately and we're learning more with every guest. So i'm happy! I hope you're happy! Keep the fear at bay and push the big machine away! I'm getting out of here...I'll see ya next time Your move pill-pushers jab advocates and misguided upholders of The Rockefeller Medicine Modality You're fuckin' moved

1:06:58 Sometimes when I get down, I eat a bunch of corporate junk. Stuff that makes you fat! Yeah it's for making industry on iMix You don't have to face it wrong Got an addiction to the digital technology Now and then I try to quit and leave but its too hard See discipline is no on iDiscipline It only happens in big conspiracy And every one of them

1:09:12 to me that