Dr. Heather Lynn | The Ancient Entropy Equation, Ritual Sex Magic, & The Broker Class

00:00 The planet's puppet masters almost surely have a plan There's clearly maybe something there beyond the realm of man Until we've thoroughly tested every last close-chested view I find the more we think, we know. The less we really do Where would we be without THC? Cause we know they're lying to us, just don't know to what degree. Where would we be without THC? The higher side chat show Greg Carl wouldn't accompany

00:58 Well, it is a beautiful day in the neighborhood. From The Sunshine State I'm Greg Carlwood And when researchers say that the puppet masters of the Predator class are involved in a secret occult religion or playing a different game from the rest of us Or making their moves from a different level of reality What do they really mean? We hear theories about the transactional nature of blood sacrifice, the alchemical transmutation of value that drives maybe the world's most effective magic trick fractional reserve debt-based banking. And we hear how the big secret behind ufology would break the collective mind if humanity were ever to have it revealed We also frequently see the encoding of symbols and numbers into highly charged ritual events, which at least tells us there's some occulted communication happening that delivers entirely different messages from the same incident for those who have been read in.

01:46 What if I told you it seems like our biggest problems come down to some very specific principles of the natural world and the puppet master's success in hijacking them, inverting them and hiding them away from the rest of us? Well today's returning guest – author, historian & renegade archaeologist Dr. Heather Lynn certainly thinks this is the case! And the direction of her recent sub-stack pieces under The H-Files banner…and a recent podcast through The Midnight Academy both get to the heart of these very ideas Her books include Evil Archaeology, Demons Possessions and Sinister Relics, Baphomet Revealed Mysteries and Magic of the Sacred Icon, The Anunnaki Connection Sumerian Gods Alien DNA and the Fate of Humanity. And The Annunaki Revelation Hidden History Altered States in the Mystery of Humanity

02:30 You can find all our work and more at drheatherlyn.com, and it is a pleasure to have her back for number three the thrice great academic double agent, sorcerer-archy exposor and rebel with a cause Dr Heather Lynn welcome back Thank you so much for having me. Yeah, really great to have you here I cannot believe how much work your putting into these threads that have been interesting to me for a while i'm gonna go outside of what we planned to talk about clearly from that intro because you just released this piece and the time since we booked this that really is a masterpiece The arms race for the holy grail Epstein Peter teal and the math medical formula for immortality and the reason this piece speaks to me so deeply is more for the backstory than the headline. Because some of my favorite work is the stuff that goes into this connective tissue between,

03:23 The alchemy of banking and energy production and the engineering of scarcity in a world of abundance tracy twine man has the book money grows on the tree knowledge that touches on this doctor joseph ferrell, has microcosm and medium one of his. wildest books that gets into this stuff. It really is a core factor in exposing a template or you say, a principle or an equation that has been applied to all areas of our lives and it really is the source of their quote unquote magic can can you break people into some of the background context that this piece is about? Yeah so there's been a lot of talk I think we're all familiar with disclosure So you mentioned a few other authors who have talked about this

04:07 circled the topic in different ways and I am coming at it, I think from a different angle by accident because of just the field that I've been in or the niche. So the niche has been like ufology because you know I've written about the Anunnaki so that automatically puts you in like an ancient aliens category. Of course I've been on this show so it just seems to be in that realm but as you know my work isn't really categorized as that so much is it is the occulted knowledge, the frameworks that go beneath civilization And that started as my work as an economic historian and during my master's. So it is strange sometimes to think of things like Anunnaki or ancient gods having anything to do with that, but its sort of important. Some of the ways I've come to conclusions—well maybe we'll just say hypotheses—

04:53 about what's going on comes through that maybe backdoor of ancient civilizations or even things like etymology, word origin. And I know that's kind of a big fun thing that people like Jordan Maxwell has made popular over the years and it's one of those things too is ripe for misconstruction and also distraction because people will say hey well this word sounds like this word so they're probably connected and then when you look into it though it's actually maybe not? There are only so many sounds a person can make. And so sometimes they converge, but there is a science of etymology and so I follow those things and I guess I just look at this in a different way. In that realm of ufology you hear free energy thrown around all the time like that is kind of the quest if you wanted to call it like the holy grail I think you could. Like many things I've done when it comes to say the Anunnaki

05:47 People are like, you know, are there stargates? And I'm like...I don't know. What is a Stargate is the question or can people be possessed by demons? Well first of all what is it demon so I think the crux of what i've been doing is trying to take Occam's razor, trying to get down to understand the language we're using and fundamentally understand how we can reimagine what that means. Because I think that's a big problem that's hitting most fields not just like the alternative so to speak but even just in generic academia there's this siloing of information and so as a result my first interest in looking into these maybe economic or financial areas

06:27 came from, strangely enough, ufology with this idea of free energy. So I'm thinking okay when you think what is free energy a lot of times you'll get people saying or implying even that it's just this really great technology that will enable us to get to the stars. You know we're gonna fly all over the place and we're going to be able to basically what? I guess let's have more accessible and effective transportation. Okay great! There's also the threat that it has to the economic system because of petrodollar and energy So, I mean that makes sense too. Great! But at some level and maybe this is just my gut and that's it but that's where we start to build a hypothesis as you're supposed to kind of have that gut feeling contrary to what the scientific materialists say where you just kinda go look over the research and then do a meta-analysis... No. We've lost the creativity in science so what I still try to do is if I have a gut feeling

07:22 Look into it a little bit, don't ignore that and then try to validate it or cross-validate it or invalidate it or however. But I'm not going to ignore that hunch." And so the hunch was is it really just that? Not that's small! Not that it's small to be able to hop in a spaceship and fly around but also the question is can our bodies even do that okay but aside from So what if they have the ability to have like constant electricity and constant energy? Sure, our economic engine will just run. But is that it?" And you can answer, well yeah because it's about the money What is money is that it mean is this really all it is all about money and of course the cynical safe course it's always about money then the question what is money. And you know we have answers to that easy go look in a book you know it's sweet we now but i really can't like press that deeper and start,

08:15 It's about energy, free energy. Currency! The current. Yes and so then of course my background being history is looking at well it all goes back to Sumer in the end and where did money come from? And there are many different places that money could have been and was like it's not like the trading system hadn't happened before the Sumerians but the Sumerians codified it and expanded it, and really I would say kind of started perfecting it. And they linked to things that are also energetic like sex food the sun whatever so and then you know you're getting like sort of a religious framework starting when you think about way. So in my interest in seeking the root of what is money its energy and all admit this years ago I took some classes there were finance and global finance and it was like

09:09 It was sort of for a certificate and it was just, I don't claim it as a credential because that's kind of silly but. It was interesting, it was from UBS and it was about fintech and stuff because I was interested in one other thing that struck me when they were teaching the very first course they were saying something about how its so important to understand global markets because it's really about unleashing the creativity of the human potential and you're able to manipulate that, you know energy and that creativity. And it was really a strange way to open a class. It was one of these like online classes so I mean it wasn't legit but you know it wasn't legit-legit But it was still like a thing where you could get a certificate through UBS, the bank system So I was just curious what are they teaching? From their perspective they're not teaching real

09:59 Here the numbers they were first coming out at it with this like we're like moral framework like. We as the global bankers are designing a way that weekend unleash the potential of like you know it was really self serving so, That kind of always stuck in my head is a weird way that these people think they're self important that their managing the creative. Flow of peoples ideas and then it was just more than just hey there scum off the top so lot of those things are speaking to me, i started looking at been haunted also have been haunted lately about the disclosure thing, also the push towards different religions. There's this idea and this is going to make everybody mad and I don't really care... Everybody is being pushed to Christianity right now. Preach! And I'm not saying no one should be Christian. I'm not saying I don't care what people are. I'm saying when somebody's pushing something even if you like it you just have to ask who's doing the pushing and why?

10:55 And so when you kind of put it all like in the context, you say these individuals are being pushed through the media. Again people that are I think kinda having a great message but my approval of what they may be saying is not the barometer of what's right and neither is yours or anybody else's So we have to look not at that We have to back it off and say why are they trying to tell us this because they can tell us anything Why are they choosing this? And so I started this different track And it all kind of did come down to things about energy, things about different types of energy. The flow of the energy, the control of the energy in different fields so to speak whether those are legitimate academic fields or also what may be considered illegitimate like ufology So the question then is what is going on? and I obviously looked through the Epstein files like everybody's been doing and I started looking for different keywords like entropy

11:51 You know so that pulled up some interesting things it started putting it together for me a little bit yes and i do plan to ask you about that but. When we go to the context of these elite this management class there in concert, any communication with some kind of other force their gods you know the way they extract occult power like this relationship where It seems like you give me something i'll give you something and yes there are claims of. Weird devices in circuit boards placed out the desert for these people to find but when i think technology go back further it's like we hear that the anunnaki or these gods, civilized man and gave us the sciences and math and all this stuff well

12:38 We think about science is different today than we might have in the past like this pc wrote. Is more about they gave us the science or they gave these elite the science of hijacking the energy flow of the natural world that's the knowledge that they gave them it's not like algebra i mean it might be algebra also but, if the signs of how to do break reality and extract wealth and its kinda like a garden like with you have a garden The high producers you give them more water you give them more fertilizer you get something from them and then in turn they yield more fruit if we are. Property is charles fortwood say if we are food for these beans,

13:25 This management class are the gardeners and they cause us to be more agitated and stressed out they generate the negative emotions the louche. And in return day they were given that the keys of the castle there were given a formula for creating more scarcity more stress more negative emotion on the planet, and that's how we generated this energy i mean this is kind of the paradigm that a lot of people from david icon down circle around and i feel like you're Kind of filling in the gaps of the broad strokes with actual details i just really like it i mean even agriculture as we've said.

14:03 That's considered this great big amazing thing. Well, maybe it's also a trap Why weren't they planting giant fruit trees that yield every year? With annual crops there are haves and have-nots There are storehouses the king redistributes everything This is control So it's hijacking abundance and using the sliver of it that is most controllable And introducing that to society and saying It's a good thing I just want to quote you here You say in terms of like how important These codes or the secret knowledge might actually just be an equation for how to hijack reality you say.

14:39 The pythagoreans drowned a man for leaking a mathematical truth the freemasons encoded geometry into a global fraternal order. Peter teal is funding the quest to defeat death jeffrey ebstein call it harvesting, ufo community calls it free energy physicists call entropy these are not separate stories right and i love that just tell us the tale of entropy and why does so important thing people have a vague idea what it means but they probably don't uh... have a dialed in exactly right Yeah, I think that's actually part of the whole psy-op is that we don't understand what it means exactly at all. So this is where I think it gets really interesting and has to be defined really well because when we start talking about these maybe cool occult esoteric subjects and then you throw in words like entropy or talk about math all of us have been trained to sort of check out even if we don't realize it. That's by design so the idea of entropy has been around since the 1800s

15:38 It was a German physicist that initially named it, but it was about a principle that governs all energy flow. And so it was based on the second law of thermodynamics and so it's kind of thing in physics and then there was 1948... There was a mathematician though that started to work on something not really related but as we'll see, it's all related. He was working in the field of communication and information and so he needed an equation though and this is fundamental here the idea of the equation, the math being the quantitative proof of everything that underlies reality back to the Pythagoreans, the idea that they believe that number was everything It was the universe, it was reality Everything was about the number So math was the key to understanding all things which I think a lot of us

16:29 kind of know. But in any case, this particular scientist was trying to figure out this idea of entropy in systems of communication and he asked his colleague who is a mathematician John von Neumann what's a call this like basic principle? And Von Neumann He said quote Call it entropy because nobody really knows what entropy means. So in a debate, you will always have the advantage." Yeah so jargon okay we have legalese you know when you get into some trouble with the law they're going to throw legal terms all around and hope for the best

17:10 Same with academia, academies. There's all this like tricks with language so many tricks with language and as you see the word entropy in some cases is just used in order to explain a phenomenon just because you know hey you'll always win the argument if people don't know what they're arguing against that's why understanding the terms that we're using and building our reality upon is essential So that's the real story there until now you have the idea of entropy coming from energy, you know what's lost basically like the friction. It's it's the something has to give in this system. The loss of energy? The decay? Yes it's just the decay and so instead of saying something more just understandable we're going to call it entropy which yeah that's fine well just will say entropy but then we have to go and other fields and were going to use those words borrow from those and then kind of where circling a same idea though at its end

18:06 And then you have the idea of entropy in biological systems as well. So at all levels, you have entropy being thrown around is a very important thing and this is where I think the free energy question kind of gets it right in a way. The idea of asking about free energy as we know about like the second law of thermodynamics about energy, you know? We all, I think understand that it can't be created or destroyed So how is it free what's going on with this really happening here and why does it have to do with. Epstein and the quest that they have for understanding entropy, understanding data information exchange like you were saying there all of these different systems that are built on people kind of being the middle man going in between

18:55 and extracting value from things where they weren't creating the value. You know, when they say their job creators, they're not necessarily creating much there. They're repositioning because you're expending energy were all expanding energy. They're trying to catch this whole entropy, the skim what it is that the loss could be. And so you have all of these different entropies. It's the same idea in all of these different fields and The one that is really underpinning of this, it goes back to Sumer agriculture and all of that is economic entropy. And that is friction and that is like seen in transaction costs so every time energy moves through a system they could be a power grid, it could be a financial market or temple economy or something there is somebody usually a priest class their position just right to skim off of that

19:53 So the energy is flowing and there's going to be, you know free. So if you were to rub your hands together the heat dissipates or some heat loss there so there's movement there's a loss who's capturing that loss every civilization sort of understood that at least in Western civilization they understood some level of this principle, is basic understanding. And they encoded it in such a way that they did which would be relating it to gods, relating it to the natural world but also trying to understand it so whereas we're saying words like maybe entropy they may have used other words that fit within their framework of understanding like Saturn

20:33 Saturn who devours his children. And people will come at me and say, well no Saturn means this! This is fine all of these things are legitimate we're talking about a span of time going so far and then also over different cultures and understandings and relationships with the religious syncretism etc., and it's like the Joseph Campbell hero with 1000 faces I'm looking for the hero underneath we can talk to faces we can say well he didn't really have that. You know big of a nose or his eyes are this is all fine and you could be right to nail it down to when the hero got, you know larger knows her smaller nose but that's the distraction we really need to go underneath to look at the basic principle here yes its like these people are in the ancient world there

21:16 Embedded in their environment much more than we are in an unadulterated environment and they acknowledge they notice or they're taught that things in nature decay. Wave forms and signals degrade, that's the second element you were talking about Well, it's like there's just leakage in the system. So stopping the leakage is one thing maybe they are trying to still uncover how to exactly do that, but you can become the leakage. You can become the siphon of that leakage and that is what they've done position themselves in the position of collecting that leakage all throughout history in every way they can think of to do it. That's what taxes are, as you say like they're just extracting a little leakage from the system that they made that is in line with the natural order of things which is like energy produces the green paper and then we get a little bit of our green paper back They're mimicking natural systems that they've observed and capitalizing on them Now this is another part I like

22:18 The brotherhoods of hidden math and you go into why it's the core hidden truth of secret society saying free masons rosicrucians templars it's all the same quote. The Templars were the most powerful financial intermediaries in medieval Europe and the custodians of mathematical and architectural knowledge acquired through direct contact with the Islamic world which had preserved in advanced Babylonian and Greek mathematics for centuries. Whether they literally venerated an idol called Baphomet matters less than what this accusation reveals, they were guarding knowledge that the Church and Crown could not control and they were destroyed for it." Then came the Royal Society, whose early members were nearly all Freemasons who formalized the scientific method while maintaining private alchemical practices. In every case the outer presentation is spiritual and fraternal but the inner structure is mathematical. The knowledge being guarded is not a philosophy it's a formula."

23:11 i love that and it speaks to a recent interview i did with bob grenier who is big in the fusion alternative energy space i mean what he was spouting out was just way over my head but it shows you there's a bear there. But apart that was interesting as he presents pins and metals from his father grandfather i think it was who has a high ranking free mason and He would show these metals and say look at the symbols and the patterns in the framing of the metal. They are energy pattern you would say that the same energy patterns that they see in the lab so this just had all my neurons firing it's right in line with what your saying is, the big secret that their hiding is hijacking the natural systems in like none of this is our education at all anywhere oh no never so

24:05 Clearly it's been weaponized and I just love that the pythagoreans drowning a man for leaking of mathematical truth like things that seem arbitrary to us because we don't even know how to use them are the actual keys to cracking reality and they've had him for a long time. And i think that plays a big role into why were not taught math well people say its epidemic of oh just so hard and we have to have stem in it is not the case if you think about the geniuses of our past, the ones who had no computers or calculators and they were able to not only almost master math but create different types of math. You know create algebra, create calculus and all these things with just pencil and paper and it's just we're so dumbed down and its just

24:56 an accident. It's so that we don't understand the deeper levels of everything and then when we hear words, then like oh it's the math it's Oh but no it's so important because The math underlies everything. It's the quantifiable truth is how things are measured And if you can measure it Then you can own it That is what the measurement is The crux of civilization The very beginning of civilization has to be this question of valuation you have to be able to say this is bigger than that or this is worth more than that and so that is a judgment call we make judgments that is what. This whole the good and evil we now have the ability to know good and evil it's knowing plus versus minus like the linear scale of like, what if something isn't good or not bad just as discernment of the binary so

25:45 If you are the god, you're able to be the ultimate judge and then you render a verdict. Well, you know, the most basic example of this in a practical sense would be how do we know how big a foot is? It seems random. Well I mean it could be anything! We can use anything to measure against another thing. It has to be then subjective and that's of course is the problem and that's a postmodernist argument as well its all subjective isn't it?! Well, yes but and that's a whole other story. But the way that we were able to function and actually create a system is there had to be rules laid out. And those rules were based on what an elite person was so like the foot of the king was literally how big a foot was. And then you could see eventually it became problematic with continuity but then we developed different math and things but it had to be something that could be observable that everybody else could agree on

26:39 that's sort of the idea of blockchain too, which was also an ancient development. So the idea that something its value has to be at least transparent enough that everyone can observe it to say its objectively true and so math fits into that even now in just the sciences you have the soft sciences and hard sciences then you have those soft sciences are the qualifying research put your subjective ideas into it You can't necessarily prove it. The hard sciences are only hard because they have that hardcore math behind them, I can show you like graphs and charts and formulas once we have that then it can be a predictive model. That's where the power comes in because then you're like omnipotent. You have these godlike powers where if you understand you are going to be able to predict, predict the future

27:29 You're going to have this like all-knowing kind of sensibility about you. So the idea of who gets to determine what the measurement is or what the value is, an essential part of it all. So that takes math. Math is the sacred art of telling us you know the nature reality and that's why they don't really want us to know but its also why these different fields these different areas a researcher siloed in compartmentalized however There are individuals at the top that kind of pull the strings of this. They're either the ones funding it or the Epstein broker class that are interested in using scientists to sort of do this research and what they do is, they'll fund say like a biologist. They'll fund

28:16 You know, somebody in engineering and they give them the money to look for a certain thing. And they're all like the blind man and the elephant parable. They're all holding a piece of it. They don't see what they're actually holding but they can report back their their findings and then those people at the top are able to say we're like the ultimate peer review. We're going to look at it and say where do we identify the fundamental truths of all of this emerging from all these fields because if we know it all, then we can control it all? And that is a lot of what you see in these Epstein emails especially when he's going into these discussions with scientists about life extension technology because again free energy isn't about flying around

29:00 In spaceships or getting off the petrol dollar or is free energy the thing that means we can live forever at zero cost. Well i mean hey well said bob greeneer seem to think it was definitely related and, You say in this post like maybe the big secret is that energy was always supposed to be free that's kinda what i get out when like you engage with the real world abundance is there like it really is crazy how much yield you will get from anything u plant or having five chickens i mean i have. All the bags that i know my family is not gonna get through a far from five chickens it's like abundance. Is there in the natural world but we have these intermediaries where we never even engage with the source itself when was the last time you planted anything what was the last time he even walked around outside with your shoes off its like,

29:57 There's a lot of cascading benefits from just moving a wheelbarrow of dirt from one side of a property to another side. But we don't do that instead, Hey a gym money to simulate that activity where were not getting our hands in the dirt so we're not getting that benefit or not getting the sunlight benefit. No if you walk with shoes it actually ground you that's another benefit, so we are when people say we live in a simulation it's like well this is a simulated activity right here here's the natural shepherds of the earth stewards of the earth way human being should operate within the dirt and just small task of

30:35 You know permaculture creation, you know creating your own little space and instead we are simulating that activity in a way that has only just one benefits your muscles I guess in the whole cascade is just cut out. It's like intermediaries all the way down so i wanted to throw this out now like we need a new term for. The puppet masters the power pyramid with some calm the call like david ike we got the parasite class the predator class the elite people don't like that one cuz it kinda gives them, hire insinuates at their better than us but you had to go and use another new turn you calm the broker class so here u right

31:10 If entropy is the tax the universe levies on every energy transfer, then the broker class is the entity that positions itself as the tax collector. Go back to the Sumerian temple economy. Grain comes in from fields, solar energy stored as wheat, the temple receives it, records it and redistributes it. In exchange, the temple provides access to divine, oracles, blessings and sacred rites Agricultural energy converts to monetary energy, converts to spiritual energy. The cycle is closed and self-sustaining until someone captures the flow. The moment the intermediary class begins extracting more than it returns a system shifts from circular to linear

31:47 regenerative to extractive. The temple still stands, the rituals still run, the priest still presides. The difference is invisible to the worshiper but fatal to the system energy flows in less energy flows out. The surplus accrues to the intermediary." This is the pattern that repeats at scale and every civilization Venetian bankers, the Medici, the East India Company central banking and every case the institution positions itself As the point of energy transfer and takes a cut, they don't generate energy because energy cannot be created or destroyed. They insert themselves into the transfer and take their cut. They are the friction. And you go on to talk about this and then you say this is why free energy is a dangerous phrase not because of generators but because of what it implies for every intermediary structure on earth

32:36 And you are really killing it the flip side is just how abundant the unadulterated world would really be or if we found a way to make that intermediary feedback into the system for the collective good of everyone rather than extracted by. The new newly termed broker class. Yeah, they actually have an even worse term for themselves though and that is the aristopopulist. Oh! I don't want to hear about that. It's kind of gross isn't it? It's kinda bad yeah no no and its important to know this like the system we're actually pushed into once you see it you'll see it just never seen other way okay so like for instance this Uber okay

33:19 Instacart, DoorDash, Patreon and of course I'm on Substack so even Substack it doesn't matter if you like the thing. It is just the thing Peter Thiel built his entire wealth in his entire business and everything off this idea And it wasn't by any kind of accident he was very much influenced by a French literary critic named René Girard if I could recommend any reading that would be it read Rene Girard because Teal was his like acolyte It's just he said it openly. He is just doing everything in honor of this man who was you know His advisor at Stanford and so now Joran doesn't necessarily have bad ideas by any means It's amazing. His work is amazing. It's what teals sort of

34:09 does with these ideas and his idea of taking it and just running with it through society. And so there's a lot there with Girard's ideas having to do with sacrifice is away, this is his big thing, is that essentially the idea of sacrifice is the way that social, societies relief social entropy. They manage it through sacrifice, then he talks about the scapegoat and so he goes through and his work is amazing too it does have to do with the concept of sacrifice which I've also written about in it is linked to that in a very real way however

34:46 Teal's sort of like many academics that we've seen over the years. They go in and learn philosophy, they're taken by it and instead of just working through it and still trying to understand it they put it out into what they call praxis to go put it out into the world like a cake that's not done baking and then disaster unfolds because we're there guinea pigs essentially. And so if you have the money to back it up with he'll does, he's basically running his gerardian experiments on the whole society and positioning himself to do something very different than what were used to. That's why I try to encourage people to break out as left right paradigm. It's not about leftists, it's not about right

35:26 It's not about even a particular religion. That's because these things, these isms have a stronghold on us. Those are things that are luxury beliefs. That term comes from sociology. It's a luxury belief. It means that when you have abundance, you can sit and and start having like say an HOA. You get into like, well you know I think we should not have this sort of flower or maybe we...you're arguing about things because your level of abundance says you don't have to argue about the real things so even when we think that were discussing religion or politics or anything like this in philosophical sense those are actually still luxury beliefs to have because you need to put those aside for a minute when there is

36:06 existential threat to our actual lives and the lives of the planet, which there is because of the threat of nuclear disasters and eugenics disease. Everything you can imagine, an actual threat to our bodies And once we solve that threat, then we can go back to sitting around smoking a cigar and discussing philosophy, Christianity, Islam. Whatever you want to talk about but until then, we need all get together and look at what is actually going on. We need to see that what is actually going on it's something that we don't even have a vocabulary for not because it doesn't exist but because its not the ones that are being pushed in front of us so when we use different terms like

36:49 You know the broker class or resto populism or any of these things or entropy of course we really have to pause and look at this in a different way until he understood this and built an empire on this so-called scam. He builds paypal which is it captures the digital friction monetary friction anytime you make a purchase a little bit goes to paypal or a little bit goes here, All of these new systems, while we enjoy them and they have afforded us great opportunities. Somebody at the top is skimming and they're basically doing not much you could argue well no they have big companies in people clock in a clock out now. We all know that there's a difference between what the people with the very top of silicon valley are doing as their cycling off little bits and little bits up all of our energy or labor our efforts are creative efforts everything versus

37:43 The regular person that may go actually clock in to a factory and sweat. That's different well said I agree and uh, I just wanted to touch on the Epstein thing a little bit more because we've mentioned it a few times without going super hard into the details but you found him speaking to some pretty high level scientists specifically about entropy and even the idea that it is some form of communication almost right? Yes. So we have the Epstein emails, there's four of them that I found—there are many more but the ones that i put in the blog and I'm still going through them and it's shocking because they're just continually circling these topics with different scientists all over the place one is from Martin Nowak he's a Harvard mathematical biologist who runs the program for evolutionary dynamics He emails Epstein asking if the exchange of entropy between physical systems is a form of communication

38:38 So kind of back to that original idea of entropy, to begin with. He asks whether negentropy—talk about terms—he asks whether negentropy, so negative entropy itself is a code? This is what's important very important because if it's a code it can be decoded So it may not be a natural consequence is what they try to propose. That perhaps there is not this inevitable idea that it's based on energy, that maybe it's something else that can be decoded. So Epstein funded this guy's program and Harvard investigated the whole thing after his arrest but it didn't go here nor there. Then you have Leon Peshkin, Harvard systems biologist and he was working on aging of course because everybody's into this longevity stuff

39:27 He writes about wanting to give people more time to play, and he's sort of just seemingly what a lot of people would think. Oh we want to live forever! But Epstein writes back saying that he is actually not sure anti-aging is a good thing which is peculiar because he's funding all this and immediately you run into the conclusion that well he's wealthy and he wants to live forever Or is that the case? So he actually says it's maybe not a good thing, but aging is systematic. He says there are redundancies built in to make sure people die at the same age like in the Bible he references max two to the eighth fold and so then he asked why isn't it just entropy

40:14 So now it's sort of like they're trying to figure out, is this entropy? Is this actually just entropy aging this idea of a loss of energy or is there a code that could be broken so that we don't even have... Like will own all life. I make the argument here about Saturn being the idea of Kronos time. Kronos devouring his children and if you just get the artwork out your mind and think about what these things could mean at least to these individuals who talk about it, this general idea that the children are the creation. And we can get into of course you know Moloch and all of that but just all the way down to the bottom, the basic fundamentals they're your creation they take on a life aside from you and they perpetuate the species as they go on and go on in arguably forever unless you stop the cycle so time though stops the cycle time stops time intervenes Saturn eats its children

41:08 Destroys everything you create eventually that's entropy. So when people are saying like, oh You know teals the Antichrist or whatever he has a lot of things but he doesn't think he's the antichrist He thinks he's something completely different very specific But he does think he's a power player in this but what they're trying to do is actually fight against Saturn And then of course you might say no no, it's the cults of Saturn there It's about Satan and these guys are Satanists sure Fine. This is not their interpretation though, they're interpreting something different They're looking at Saturn as kind of an idea a philosophical idea of time itself They're fighting against time destruction and entropy And so in this they're doing it through code and so he asks if aging is random decay or a program code

41:54 because the code can be broken. Then there's Lawrence Krauss, who is a physicist. They exchange messages about gravity. Epstein proposes gravity isn't a fundamental force—it's mass settling into its most probable configuration. Entropy maximization is spatial curvature So regardless of what that could mean to all of us just listening casually or whatever, they're pulling the same thread but in different areas by design. And they're not in one big group necessarily trying to get to what Epstein really wants to know he's just deploying this then you have Steven Jura sick He writes to Epstein about the quote persistence of complexity across time and that's an eugenic problem basically

42:42 Epstein has mind shift in 2010 and that was an actual organized private closed door conference that spanned a couple days. And the whole thing was about encryption, decryption new financial systems and emerging technologies crypt analysis financial architecture entropy life extension all of these different things he did get people together to talk on these topics and then a note epstein writes himself He says Or at least. He had a habit of writing things to send it, like note to self. But then there's one in this chain that's actually redacted? Like we don't know who he sent this too but... ...he says quote find me the top code breaker NSA type. Then end quote then he goes on to say biology is a system of dynamic codes that hidden order can be used for work only if decryption takes place and in parentheses he wrote entropy

43:41 So when he was asked about it, he said it's research. It's for a science foundation so you didn't want people to necessarily key in on what he is doing. So he's looking for cryptologists to work on biological codes they're trying to fight the very thing that they are profiting off of not because their heroes now remember that I'm not implying that there here by any means the whole reason that they're positioning themselves in my view allegedly but from my research and the research I plan to expose more of is. They are building a breakaway civilization in plain sight

44:18 And they've said this in their own words. When I say they, I mean a lot of these technocratic elites, they refer to themselves as I said before, as aristopopulists and that's why it's like the real wolves in sheep's clothing because you'll have this mechanism where they're saying we're libertarian, we're free speech, we want alternative medias, we want alternative ideas. They are going against the grain and they are like populists but at the same time they are aristocrats. They wanna be the ones who are running everything So, it's a very dangerous and tricky thing. And they're using Girardian techniques, Straussian techniques to set up an alternative system. And as you could say that well that'd be actually really great! I think that's why there are people who everybody may be a fan of or we like the ideas of what they say and you see their line with Peter Thiel. You say well wait how

45:08 How is that? Well, because there's something else going on that's not so apparent. And it's this line that's been sold that is they're all kind of bad everybody's bad but Peter Thiel you know he's actually trying to do something good by getting away from these ruling elites by making a new system in the only way that is like mathematically possible and basically jump ship over here to us as why Christianity is being leveraged because and this is from their own words If you try to get people to break away from a civilization, and then go to what? Go to nothing. They're not going to want to take a chance on something new. They want it to be something old and established. So they're using Christianity as the guys to do this. It's not that all of sudden JD Vance is a Catholic because he's compelled to be one. It's not because of all of that is because they need like a lifeboat

46:02 the people recognize so that you'll jump ship over there and say what it is good right we're gonna be okay right. And they're building a control grid that's different because they're trying to take over like a coup its a corporate aristocratic elite oligarchy who is doing a coup against all the other systems only though to create a new system operates off of this skin, Yeah, they just reposition themselves at the top of it and it's mostly digital. It seems like and I think about that line sacrifice manages social entropy and how that must guide a lot of the philosophy of false flags and routine wars like oh

46:42 It's that time again, you know we got a issue in another war because it seems like right now are being pushed into world war three without even a good reason presented to us at least have the dignity to blow up a building and DC or something. So will you get mad and think that there's a reason to do this? Give me a S a false flag at least, you know, give me something but But the thing I think about is this exchange between the elite and like maybe a level, an ethereal metaphysical level above them. And it's just like, I kind of think maybe there could be something in there where it's like the reason why this new system, this technocratic system has to come right along with world war three is like

47:26 You gotta give the gods some loose, you got to give them some blood sacrifice and then they might give you the missing screws to your big machine that you're trying to build. And they might not! Hopefully it all just collapses but I think that's the hope these people have is like by giving the sacrifice of us to their entities that the entities will fill in the last few blank pieces of the puzzle for them Yes, and you don't have to be like those individuals don't have to be religious or anything. They can they cannot believe in the superstitious or whatever they may call it. They can be atheists because at the end they're pragmatist. They're looking at what could work

48:07 So and in that of course you're going to get people different ideologies and belief sets but what's actually working behind it is that it just simply works. And that's how you can just kind of hold your nose and do it, its working. And so yes thats how you can get a lot of people on board, it goes back similarly the Nazi Annunerbe and all of this, where if you were a person maybe in Berlin back in the day and you're watching all of these Hugo Boss-dressed individuals who are in positions of power. And they seem reasonable in their presentation, maybe they're a little charismatic but they're talking about policy and economics and whatever. You would never suspect that at least a portion of them are wearing robes in a castle running around having like seances and whatnot you would be... They would think that's crazy! That's not happening and nor did everybody in the Nazi Party even do that so

49:01 So that's what we're looking at is don't look at these individuals, anybody and I think we all are aware of this now that we're not looking at anybody in a position of power anymore and thinking that they have it together. Quite the opposite thankfully but i think there are some who believe they're worshipping an actual entity And I think there's some who really don't care They might no buy into that at all They just want the results And there's everything in between and that's why it can be so effective. It is siloed, it's compartmentalized and its hierarchical in of itself but the real issue too is this energy force that they're trying to take from us which you know like Monroe, the luge I think that's a really good way of putting it because we don't really know what it is. There has been talk since

49:48 Elphis Levy and before we have all these different words like animal magnetism, and back to Nazis. We have Vrill, we have Animus, however you want to say it, we all know there's something immaterial that's there. That is another thing that when you look at the exchange between Epstein and Bannon when they were having an interview, it was funny to see Epstein talk about his belief in God or at least a soul So he had some understanding or some idea of the materialist versus, you know maybe a metaphysical approach. But I think something then that is even more important when it comes to that is not the argument of Is there something more isn't there which is an important argument but right now in the time of war that we're in looking at what is the benefit or utility of having so many people all of a sudden begin feeling very spiritual

50:40 You know, I'm for it by the way. I want people to feel that there's something more but they do too There's a movement that says so to Peter Thiel wants that Epstein wanted that why? It is in my view and the view of some of the philosophers that they you know are very much interested in Is that when you pull away from scientific materialism you can now have Chaos, you have a people who have a lack of understanding even if their understanding isn't accurate it's still a sense of stability. So you're not looking for people you can just say it's just science okay well that

51:18 is something they don't want anymore and of course you might hear that good i don't want that either this is the trick that they're pulling because if you have so many people saying we know what it isn't more were just like peasants from back in a day who knows what sciences we need answers we have anxiety about that so many people want answers. They are positioning themselves to be the ones with those answers, they want the alien ideas they want the Christian ideas, any ideas and Islamic ideas too. It's not even one system it's currently they're using a particular system but they don't care they want us to believe in some sort of supernatural thing that they say they are the mediators of because then we can't prove them wrong now were stuck

52:05 And that is kind of what I've said recently, because I've had on some guests who are Christian leaning. And then I've had on David Ike who's like Christianity has been weaponized and it's part of the big PSYOP. Religious fundamental beliefs confronted so aggressively like that. I understand, but they're basically saying we need you to have a belief and then we can work with that. You figure out what the belief is identify with it and then we can channel that however we want. Whereas if you're just an individual free thinker which I know is like Gnostic and scary to some people, right? It's like, it's really hard to pin me down. It's hard to find out what I'm even about because I don't necessarily advertise it and

52:46 I just think more people should be like that because when you adopt liberal Christian, any of these ideologies are like. I gotcha. I have just the solution. I know how to channel that, but if you don't know what you're working with and it's a lot harder to do, especially with so many people now, I wanted to get into your post money sex and sorcery why religions use ritual sex? You highlight something that I didn't know. And I'm curious too hear more about it. Obviously already did cause I read the posts for those who didn't The first money ever created was a temple token that bought access to a possessed prostitute what's the story there. That's kind of a bold claim is an ass.

53:26 Yeah, so I say a possessed prostitute because we hear a lot about temple prostitution or at least people who are interested in the ancient world and that sort of thing. We hear temple prostitution and that almost sounds nice like oh maybe they were just lovely ladies that like tended to the temple and they happened to be prostitutes And then also the word prostitute is a weird one because you might think of like, you know, a street hoe. She's just like a slut whatever she's doing stuff for money we have no real understanding by design of what those things actually meant to the ancients because there was a thing it served as system that was part of the system and had a function and so

54:06 And it's still in some ways, a permeates different belief sets. And so it's very important to understand the idea of the currency of sex itself as an energy kind of like Lush. It's all connected and we know this from ritual magic and tantra and all of this that there is an energy force behind the orgasm. And some people feel that you can capture that or that you could suppress it and then thereby capture it. So we get all into a whole thing but it starts at least in history, the written record in Sumer and it is associated with cash. So the oldest token currency is a Sumerian shekel so not to be confused with just a shekel but it was a Sumerian shekel specifically and its about goes back to 3000 BCE

54:52 And so it was specifically a token because it was used to pay for an evening with the lady of the night. But what her job was, was not just a good time. It wasn't frivolous. It was sacred prostitution and so that is prostitution because you paid for the sex but it's sacred because it function as a way to call down God. You experienced the divine now how you got that was you had to bring a portion of your yearly wheat crop to this temple. And later, I mean the same thing happens throughout with the Temple of Ishtar it happens in Greece and it's part of the mystery tradition that you see echo and reverberate throughout but at least in its very beginning in Sumer they were doing that as well so actually the temples were built on riverbeds

55:40 And so that was the current, you would get in a boat and you would bring your wheat and you would flow. You would travel the flow of that current and you would end up at the temple. You would bring in your cash crop and you would give it to as an offering to the temple which would be an offering to the God. You would get that token and then be with God. And you could be with God through being with this woman." Now, how does this work? Well she's possessed! You know and not like in a Regan... She wasn't spitting pea soup everywhere It's the idea of what it is to have a god in you To have enthusiasm, entheos A deity inside to channel something So we could call it a lot of things We can say its your channelling or your inspired

56:26 or it's the muse, but it's possession. There is a spiritual entity that has come inside you and you are no longer you because the individual was bringing that to have an experience not with some woman he was experiencing God so she, the individual woman wasn't there she was just the vessel where you could experience God And that was what the money was for And then even on the coins itself, it shows these gods and the wheat and that sort of thing. And so the first money was a temple token made for this sexual encounter that was to bring God down

57:04 And we see it again, even in like a spiritual sense with something like in Kabbalah the Shekinah having to go to the temple wall and commune with the feminine aspect of God. And it's a sexual act for people who are not familiar some Jewish people that go to the wall and they have the whaling wall they believe is the temple wall but its not really the temple but thats another story. And their praying but there do this kind the swaying motion, and that is them communing with the female aspect of God. And that communion is not just like, hey we're just loving this. They're actually copulating or having sex with that divine entity so this temple prostitution it permeates a lot even now. Yes I love this there's the shape of something here that i've been really interested in for awhile now. I would love to...I mean you do your own interviews Dr. Joanna Kuyava I might have mentioned her to you previously but I would love to hear you guys talk and I can definitely connect you

58:05 She is a scholar of religion and she had a spontaneous Kundalini experience, which changed her life. And was like, she was like, Whoa, there is something here. There's something in the divine feminine. This is the reason it's not In our culture because everything that has been suppressed brings personal power. This is why I think people who consider Gnosticism the bad thing are about as wrong as you can be but Knowledge of entropy the principles of nature astrology another code that could be used to manage life in your own line if you wanted to. Well, you can't remove women from the system but you can demonize them and belittle them and minimize them as much as you can and shame them and get them to cover up

58:54 You know, you can do all that stuff. You can encourage people to get married and never fuck with that kind of intention and just to procreate And any other sex is strictly forbidden as you say how can it be? That sex is the most divine holiest union and also the most dangerous transgression It is a paradox but it's because there is a power that can be used there and Dr. Kiyava her whole thing is that there was a lineage of women who knew this and use their power to facilitate experiences because if sex can be a portal to the divine, what can a powerful portal operator do for you? Like yeah they can probably get you off in ways that

59:40 The ignorant wife can't, you know the starfished wife cannot do. They can probably really push the buttons and all that stuff That's what we hear about but the deeper level is like they could maybe move the energy in certain ways and Help you to actually manifest through the use of being a conduit to the divine for you That's really it these divine prostitutes these sacred prostitutes. They could be the conduit And i think there's something there that even speaks to abstain like, i read virginia goof phrase memoir one of the most boring books about such a scandalous thing you could probably read it's graphic and its language about actual touching and rape but it doesn't go very deep into what was really going on but she does talk about how galane. Was very methodical in coaching

1:00:29 The women the girls to do this stuff to abstain he was like the model template you start with and it always was massage based. What's your massage base so i think there might be something where without giving them a context without telling them what they're doing you put the girls through the motions is that he likes it like this, You do this, this way. And then you rent these girls out to other elites are they just getting their rocks off? Any prostitute can do that. These girls might be trained in a sacred art without even knowing it. I can't agree more. I think that's exactly it and I think that again with the manipulation of language

1:01:07 When we hear these words like prostitute, of course there's an element of just commerce associated with or morality. Like well these girls were whores or something. All of these things paint a picture it obfuscates the truth which is that these are victims who they were serving a function It was not just like you said getting your rocks off. It's the same thing as all this other that we've talked about where yes you have agriculture Well its not about the agriculture That's a consequence energy manipulation. So there's something else though at its core and when we mistake the thing for the effect, when we mistake that you know all this research into free energy is going to make it so that we can fly around in spaceships or go from point A to point B yes this is true and that could be good but was that it? Was that the ends-to-the-means or was there something else or is that what were just given

1:01:59 Because they're always siphoning off the real value and it's just like in archaeology, you know when I've said this for years like they'll go in and do an excavation. And The people with interest they skim off that too and that goes into a black market or their own, you know, often collection and then we get to see little pot sherds and cute little like whatever. And it's like oh a museum! We're given that we're given the leftovers so while those leftovers we appreciate and we like it's because we don't know any better. We're happy for what we're getting. We're getting something because they are giving it because they're in a position to give it because they're taking it

1:02:36 They're a priest class that have positioned themselves above us. And yes, to understand the importance of sex that way even when you talk about it's just almost comical or could be dirty or it could be what... You put your ethical framework over it, It's polluting the actual thing we're talking about because at the end you'll say well why did they use ritual sex? and then answer most people will give is well because I felt good Oh, okay. So do a lot of things." You know? It also can feel not so good. There's a lot more to it. It's not just about the feeling although that's there. It's like saying why do you eat? Well because my stomach felt not good and then I ate it felt good but there is so much more to it and then its like well why did we have sacrificial meals and it's like because I was hungry eating feels good. You don't go to church and eat a Eucharist because your hungry. There's more to it than that and see you can't mistake

1:03:31 the thing in front of you for what's actually going on. And so sex is key and also that explains it's the most pleasure you can have, and the opposite of that is the most pain you could have like torture to ritual abuse and those sorts of things. You then maximize the potential for power and energy release unfortunately because you can torture to the point where it's just...and this is what we know from the Podesta emails. We know that this happens go into any you know, dark web red room and you'll know what they're doing. They're trying to create maximum pain there not going out and kidnapping people not just children but people they're not going out on kidnapping And then just killing a manner that is unreal to extract the most amount of pain and sexual energy as well

1:04:25 It's brutal, but that's the real force that we're dealing with are people who are trying to manipulate energy in ways that we just can't even understand because we use words like sex and energy and you know sex feels good. And even tantra it's like you got sting back in a day coming out like I like tantric sex and it's like oh he just takes along... He just takes his good old time with that foreplay! No, you understand what Tantra is but that may threaten a belief set so we can't do that either That's why in the sub stack And when the paid one unfortunately and then in the deep dive because I couldn't put it on YouTube. I went into the graphic detail about what is the actual communion

1:05:02 that is given in the OTO and some of the Golden Dawn, and some of these things. And a little too graphic for YouTube but I thought it was important and of course I'm going to get hate mail for that and I have because these are secrets but they're really not a secret you can read Aleister Crowley for yourself But people don't like it being known by those who You know it's like the pearls before swine they say i've been told that to and it's okay will find we are all swine we are all their animals, they got this system through animal husbandry technology they tell us how to breed what we can eat give us cable. It's we are that so we have to rise up against that. So i know we gotta wrap this up but i gotta let you go eventually wanna slide this in here too about erica kurt cuz we could link this back to

1:05:50 Does sex post you had and some of what we're talking about there could you say the three big pillars of a cult knowledge or weapons to destroy the body glamour to enchant the mind and sex to direct energy well. The beauty that heavy makeup eyeliner you've talked about this this theme of beautiful models in pageant girls being traded around the elite and sex traffic erica milania even, I mean, this is another area where I see kind of the modern pieces. I mean, I brought this up with Virginia and Epstein training thing, but like maybe it goes deeper than that. Maybe there's more of these seductresses involved or maybe they're trained to a degree, but it almost seems like a virgin, a version of that, like sacred prostitute thing because maybe these women

1:06:37 They aren't just victims, I do think they graduate to a higher position that is less understood and probably does contain some power to it. Um, everyone just thinks Melania is a trophy wife arm candy. I don't know maybe there's a deeper thing there people try to decode her crazy outfits because there seems to be a lot of symbolism in those outfits. I dunno what do you think about the idea that cause Erica? There's nothing that sticks out in my mind more about Erica Kirk than her crazy eyeliner. The Tammy Faye Baker kind of thing going on. Yeah, maybe this is part of the magic the glamour and all this enchantment type stuff Maybe maybe they aren't just arm candy I think that's that's

1:07:16 The point that I try to make, and again, I'm not attacking anybody for wearing makeup. I wear makeup right down my hair. I do all that so it's fine. Not that there is anything wrong with that! It's more about the intent and also just a literal sense of where the words come from in what we're working with. I do point out the idea because of glamour because like you said if the thing that's popping out is when people talk about Erica they're like those eyes... You know? There is a thing. You also hear here on TikTok or wherever there are a lot of people who put up makeup tutorials tutorials and say how to not look like a republican or how to look like it's very divisive these ideas of republican makeup versus not. So people are very judgmental about women in their makeup, but there is something I think important there and that is this idea what makeup is and how uncomfortable can make people because its illusion, its fake right so if you look at the word glamour which is glamorous

1:08:08 It's like beautiful, elegant. It's like magazine cover names and whatever but it actually comes to us from the English Scots dialect from the early 1700s. And so not what sometimes people call the Gaelic Scot because this isn't the same one, this is a corruption of the word grammar and you can find this if you go to the actual many dictionaries, you can just find this etymologically, you can find it on the government's own website of Scotland when they talk about the different words and whatnot. So very well sourced. The word comes from a corruption of the word

1:08:45 grammar, which then also was from the old French grimaire. Which meant like the book of grammar or the book of magic it's where we get like the word grimoire yeah and so all those you know not to sound like a Jordan Maxwell they all sound the same don't they? No they're traceably the same I have citations for it on my sub stack its traceable It is the words So essentially glamour means to cast a spell on somebody. It means that you're going to cast a glamour, that was the old way of saying it." What's interesting too is that's not even lost in the notion

1:09:23 you know, theosophy or any of these. You have Alice Bailey writing a book about glamour saying glamor, a world problem and the way she was using it in the context was in this global sense not even just about makeup but in this notion that's an illusion. It's a beautiful illusion And so often the word glamour has been used in this esoteric or occult way and more often than not really. And then only recently I would say it's been associated with Hollywood and makeup, and the quote divine feminine which is a tough one because you want to not be anti-woman. You want to give a woman her dues and how important she is in all of this but I really feel that this divine feminine too has been another psyop that's been hijacked and because I think it's a way to make us

1:10:12 think one thing and not really see the relevance of the sex part and the magic, and all that. So at the risk of sounding like I'm a hammer so everything's a nail... I do think that a lot of this is a psyop, and so I want to be careful with the divine feminine, I guess. But what's interesting is that it comes from The Watchers. The idea of the makeup itself. The idea that The Watchers themselves taught women how to wear makeup. And it was kind of seen as Black magic even back then. Yeah, well they're all witches Heather. All of them are always Kardashian's Elon's mom way down all the way down man I've definitely have loved this lucky number three i mean i try to seek out people who have unique takes on these things that kind of are talked to death

1:11:02 And it's a very hard thing to do. So the fact that you have clarified, a lot of complex things that other people have failed to and uh, connected dots in different ways that make a lot more sense to me. And yet we've still combed over this stuff for like 1520 years. I think that's just like as impressive as can be. Is there anything else to let people know before we let them go? Where are you planning to take the work what's coming out next links all that good stuff Well, I do plan to take the work a lot further. I have so much to say as you can probably tell just like gammer on and on but there's a lot! I feel like for the first time i'm able to just say it all because we're in a state of actual world war and just like i'm just lighting a match and letting it all burn. I'm on a war path quite literally and i've had a lot of things over the past I think

1:11:52 At least 13 years specifically that I've not been able to say. Probably still am not able to say safely but i'm at that point where it's like we're war, this is a real war and have burned bridges of intentionally burning bridges on a whole different path it is a war path and that is what im doing my sub stack and its only place i could find so far the let me say some other things im saying I mean, oh no definitely here. No no in print and so we'll see when you tube i've been using as well but i can't put everything on youtube unfortunately is you know some of that stuff does have to go behind a paywall just because they'll knock my channel down and i've already had by attacks already so i think the let the thing that i would like to leave people with this i stand behind my previous work

1:12:35 But I've held a lot back for a lot of years, and I devoted myself to 2026 being the year where I burn it all down. And whether if I burn down with it so be it, I think it's worth it in the truth and so I have so much to say this is only beginning and I look forward to sharing at all with everybody hopefully I love it yeah you gotta be strategic and the rest of us should support the people who are willing to do the work and put themselves in harms way potentially we know there are risks so. If you're not gonna take the risks yourself at least support the people who are willing to because i am sick of not having the answers i'm sick of a run around on stick of the drip drip drip we talked about disclosure that's obviously huge area where we get the trip trip trip and i'm sure when it does come out if it does, it'll be more about. The pilots of the craft and not so much about like the free energy thing or the fact that this is a template baked into nature that we should all be able to

1:13:36 Thrive with in abundance, but it has been hijacked by that broker class. Well Thanks again for doing such great work take care and until we talk again Thank you so much for having me as always and thank you to your audience because it's where I get a whole lot of referrals Everybody out there listening to your show They're very much aware what's going on behind the scenes And I thank you for all the tips that they send me Oh man. Well, you know, be kind people, you know down boys let's uh, let's put our best foot forward. I can't be responsible for some of the animals out there, but I know they're really high level thinkers in this audience too so i hope that only those are the ones that connect with you. They do for them all right cheers thank you take care

1:14:24 Ain't no party like a higher side party right good lord i'm just so consistently impressed with the work doctor linda's doing. Like so many guests who are thinker great writers i try to come into the interview with as many quotes is i can fit in, just articulate you guys exactly what it gets me so jazzed up about a lot of these guests usually The written word is where it's put the best so i try to bring that into the conversation at least. And this is a pretty quick turnaround for a thc was just recorded last week but what a week it has been, david willcock situation and then this weird time travel story involving call alan and the white house correspondence dinner shooter situation

1:15:12 I wanna go too much into it now because i just recorded with chris noles yesterday and its basically. A huge web of topics that bridge off of those two stories but heather is already released a couple of sub stacks this week that are pretty killer that relate to these things, what about project looking glass technology in our campaigns the middle east i really like that she's got apart to come in But in it she mentions an angle I hadn't heard yet that Chris and i didn't go over, And that's that this event with Trump might have been staged by him to justify the ballroom he's building. It seems like that was the first thing they brought up the next day This wouldn't have happened if we had our own secure ballroom at The White House problem reaction solution right? Heather also brings up a point I'm hearing more people talk about

1:16:04 And that is the fact that it's not about the ballroom per se. That's the Kansas City shuffle, everyone's looking at the ballroom and not necessarily the bunker beneath although there might be some aesthetic homage to The Temple of Solomon or something which might actually be required to be part of the overall thing if you're following every detail of an ancient story including the architecture of a building Be that as it may the bunker below what is that what is its true purpose. Do they have a time machine or at least device that can scry the future thats the page im on not that people are taking their physical bodies and going through time i think its digital manipulation data manipulation

1:16:56 Some kind of influence that looks paranormal in the current timeline think of interstellar i mean when he's pushing, the books off the shelf from the astral. I think that might be something close to the technology they have really just a scrying mirror for the future that's what i think it is that's what i think project looking glasses and with that images at day are showing us on the banner for that account of the time traveler on Twitter. But maybe there's a device that works on the same principle as remote viewing, and maybe it is very ancient! It's such wild stuff

1:17:39 I do think there's just something fishy about the time-traveling Twitter account because it went so viral and It mythologizes the president which has been going on since the first term Which is why it's a kek picture brings it all back up again. The meme magic stuff Like I said, I don't want to go too deep into it because the next episode is literally gonna go quite deep into it We have a president who is an actor he's always been a pt barnum type figure who can direct attention he participated in reality tv and wwe i think that his nature, and we have elon musk like juvenile for chan flavored pranks and owns the platform that this all centers around so.

1:18:24 When you met the president as a time traveler people overlook a lot of horrible shit. Just by the nature of distraction or them mystique about all the whole well there must be something to it that is understood on a higher level with these time travelers and i guess i should just watch the show I don't know it's just a curious situation but that one perspective i try to keep in mind along with the more widely circulated ones that we might be. Looking at weaponized me magic or weaponize synchronicity, do you apologize president and exalt him a lot like they're trying to exult a i'm just up to think about really

1:19:12 But i brought up bob green here a couple times in this interview and i think doctor lynn is nailing it. With the entropy idea the idea of these codes and patterns and principles of nature being the big secret at the bottom of the vatican archives or the freemasonic basement library we've known that sacred geometry and like has been a huge part of it randall carlson's a great example of someone Who i've done interviews with who is quite proud to be a mason and does go out there trying to teach people these principles. Maybe one membership is getting low you gotta send the guy out there to remind people what's so cool about it,

1:19:57 Who is doctor lynn she's just nailing these principles that have been exploited and weaponized an empire after empire has been. Build on exploiting them so of course they keep them a carefully guarded secret, And bob green gave us a great reason to put stock in that when he showed his grandfather's free masonic regalia and metals and show how the symbols. Run the medals are the same way energy organizes in these fusion systems that he is working on, so they have known and i think the core of what this trick has been has been to invert our experience from

1:20:37 A natural world just embedded within a system or many systems that just exude abundance if they're shepherded and that abundance is coaxed out. And they've had to take us completely out of that environment and keep us locked into artificial systems, engineer scarcity and create this perception of the scarce world which is not its natural state That really is the big conspiracy to me add in consciousness and our true nature but i think you could fold that into. Inverting what we would arrive at naturally if we were living embedded in a natural environment so they embarked on a lofty and long term plan to separate us from all that, oh how successful it has been

1:21:28 People willingly pay over asking price to get into a neighborhood where you have barely any land and you will be fined for getting chickens or growing any food. That is the end result of this project, and it is god damn impressive! Many people sign six-figure 30 year commitments to live in a concrete box stacked on top of another one with no land at all... And probably an HOA on top of that This is the stuff that can i get me excited again and it brings me back to the roots of the conspiracy culture when i got into it when it was about this abundance, scarcity dichotomy way before everything was just techno christianity silicon valley bros q and a gods in the digital surveillance grade with programmable money. And time traveling trump

1:22:25 This is the stuff a person could actually use it could become guiding philosophy and has. Practical implications as i said im working on something related to this for solo show that isn't just another book report so i've been cultivating my thoughts on these things and i was all excited about how this interview aligned with that, And she also made some great points in there that this techno christian cabal is pumping up AI as godlike because they want to be the mediators, the techno priest class. It is a story as old civilization itself isn't it? But go and read her stuff signup for her sub stack and tell you did it because your THC interviews are so great

1:23:11 That's one thing you know the first half of the interview and then we have her breakdown of the charlie kirk assassination ritual wow so. That was actually plans to be in the first hour because to be honest i know what a gotten views on youtube and all that is very trendy, You can't fault me for at least considering being strategic, but it landed in the plus show because the other stuff was just so interesting to me. We just kept talking about it I had another comment and she had another come you know how conversations go Though that stuff is far less trendy, it's probably more important. But man I just love the way she framed that Charlie Kirk thing more so than anyone else! I've seen some of those pieces as i mentioned The right ear trump thing yes I've heard that but Man just to follow that through To even more material that fits within a cohesive story Unbelievable Unbelievable She's a great researcher

1:24:10 However, you know if you didn't hear the plus show. You can read her sub stack on that or check out her own YouTube for her breakdown Or get the THC Plus free trial without even having to put in a credit card Just go to the higher side chats calm but she tied it all together very nicely It doesn't matter if you think the Butler situation involved a real bullet or a real shooting or if Charlie Kirk is alive or dead The ritual template still makes sense either way Engineered theater or just engineered event. No that i'm undecided on but i think they know the value of story and narrative and are trying to work trump into the groove of a certain archetype in she provided great context for what that story and group are, next one guest letter no alright

1:25:02 And higher side news i got out another solo show book report i spilled some thc conspiracy and talk for almost three hours about this book too many secrets humanities fight to expose the secret underground worlds. So far haven't seen anyone actually obtain a copy of the book or find out anything about this author who has kind of ghosted the internet But if you're a free listener wondering if it sucked or if it was good, the plus people will always let you know with the rating system and this book report has a 4.8! I love it, I love it You can't please all the people all the time but 4.8 is about as good as it gets If I'm happy, you're happy and it seems like you are

1:25:47 Get in there free people use the trial scope out that three-hour solo show here the full heatherlyn interview and i think you'll find there's a lot of good stuff on the plus side of all this. And without ads it's the only system that works so anyway we also got to deliver a rating for the last interview I did and that's The Legend Michael Cremo man, I am a little disappointed because I know that he's older and slower, but he is very wise and very well spoken. And we so rarely get to speak with someone of that age. He is still putting out books and willing to sit down for two hour interviews. I was really proud and honored actually to spend that time with him. I thought there would be a little more support and grace for his activeness at this age But he is sitting at 4.6

1:26:41 Not that bad, still B tier. It's all good but I thought he was great and i'm happy to have his thoughts and words down on the record while we still have him around to do so. I know a lot of you are with me but clearly more people than I thought ended up just not being that into it for whatever reason And now the meetup calendar May 1st we have a Spavinaw, Oklahoma Camp Copperhead meetup. Also May 1st, Canaan New Hampshire Pour House BBQ the nudists getting together. May 5th Brooklyn New York at Heart Bar. May 16th The Raleigh Brewing Company in Raleigh North Carolina and then June 13th The Brickwood in Riverside California so

1:27:32 i don't know little light it's summer good time to be out there let's pump up a little bit you know get in there go forth and build the networks of the new world people free and easy make events and rsvp if you heard about any events near u plan to attend. Take the reins on controlling your level of dependence on a broken system and cultivate your anti fragility and all that, Alright, well enough lecturing right? Who needs that. But I guess that's the end of the road for me! I loved this interview...I hope you agree so enjoy the ride take care of you and yours i've done my part your move entropy extractors sex magic secret keepers and brotherhoods of hidden math your fucking no She enrolled but she didn't buy in

1:28:28 She went to class, but saw through the spin Got what she needed and got out again The academic double agent Dr. Heatherlyn The professors say keep the boat from rocking Keep the narratives intact If you find something anomalous That's something to subtract Don't mess with success, we got the deck stacked But when the truth comes knocking how you gonna act?

1:29:12 Today you learn more outside of the system You can go out on your own Leave behind fancy credentials And crushing student loans They won't fund your studies if you go against the grain They got no cash for information, they don't want to explain The professor said Keep the boat from rocking, keep the narratives intact If you find something anomalous there's something to subtract Don't mess with success we got the deck stacked But when the truth comes knocking how ya gonna act? How ya gonna act?

1:30:18 She enrolled, but she didn't buy in. She went to class but saw through the spin Got what she needed and got out again The academic double agent Dr. Heatherlyn