Dr. Barre Lando | Waveform Mechanics, True Healing & The Natural Ways

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01:31 Happy days are here again, Hiresight Chatters doing the thing. From sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood and it's unfortunate that not only do we have to deal with greed corruption and winner-take-all capitalism in the realms of food medicine but i'm not even sure the people with their hands on the wheel realize what makes good food medicine And when most areas of modern science don't even factor in consciousness how can they really know anything about the body health or even reality itself? Because if you ask the mystics, shamans or biologists, holistic doctors, natural scientists, aether physics researchers or Tesla technicians they would say the fabric of reality emerges more like a song from the keys to the grand piano than from a random explosion at the beginning of time. That consciousness permeates from all things nature gives us everything we need and that engaging with the natural world makes these things self-evident

02:23 Many of the brightest minds like Viktor Schauberger, Rudolf Steiner, Wilhelm Reich and Nikola Tesla also advised us to derive technology and understanding from observing natural systems recognizing patterns and thinking in terms of energy frequency and vibration. And when you see the worn, leftover structures of ancient cultures and pyramid builders it seems obvious that they too were in a whole different headspace. One that really seemed to serve their lives well as opposed to one they lived to serve Well now more than ever people are looking at the fruits of modern industrialization academia and corporate industry and realizing there has to be a better way! And wouldn't ya know it today's guest Dr. Bear Lando has been working on a better way for over 40 years

03:10 For the unfamiliar, Dr. Lando is extremely accomplished as he's traveled a winding path through athletics and academics to becoming a physician, bioterrain specialist and permaculture farmer He was both a pre-law AND pre-med undergraduate student recognized for maintaining a 4.0 GPA AS A Division 1 scholarship football player & competitive powerlifter His lifelong passion for the martial arts and surfing would eventually lead to studies in Chinese medicine and other alternative therapies, while raising his family in exotic locations from Fiji to Hawaii in search of better waves. After completing graduate studies in social psychology he earned a certification from Stanford Medical School then attended a four-year naturopathic college and completed a doctor of chiropractic degree

04:00 In more recent years, he's earned his Master Gardener and Permaculture Design certification and presently oversees his off-grid medicinal herb farm while teaching biodynamic farming methods and ionization soil analysis. Now retired from clinical medical practice, he remains active in the martial arts, health consulting, creating formulations for his herbal company, and developing innovative medical protocols based on the principles of waveform physics You can find out more about him and his farm at alphavadic.com as well as pick up high quality Spajerik tinctures and other products from his shop, and listen to the AlphaCast podcast co-hosted by Dr Lando and Mike Winner

04:42 This is a real treat, people. Because he does more in a day than I do all week! The surfer-spagyricist bioterrain teacher and biodynamic do-gooder Dr. Bear Lando welcome to the higher side Hey Greg really good to be here i'm looking forward to this one quite a bit and you are definitely the master of the intro there that's a show on itself so uh...I've been a big fan of yours for a long time i'm really honored to be here and thank you again for the invite Of course man to kind and what i do is not even a fraction as impressive as your resume man it's really hard to do justice but i wanted try just the same from repeating yourself again and again, but you've been very well educated in both western medicine and alternative ways which is so perfect because it puts you in a unique position. To be able to get through two people still stuck in the rockefeller medicine big bang western materialist

05:40 paradigm and introduce them to the better ways which have been suppressed, mocked and legislated out to the margins of society. Maybe that's a good place to start because the people here i think really love these ideas intellectually and philosophically. But some might figure well if these alternative holistic natural ways are actually superior and were once a lot more common how did things actually get so backwards how could be conventional models really went out in dominate like they do when there not nearly as effective or accurate

06:16 Well the short answer is they didn't win out and what seems I think on the outside is just a fabrication of media and whole facade because the truth has never gone away. A lot of us who have taken extra measure beyond our conventional education and put these things to practice to prove it in our own experience, there's a lot more of us out there than people realize. There is a lot more truth seekers out there than people realized and I really believe we're on the cusp of the facade just crumbling as apparent

06:55 So, yeah it sounds like or seems like they've had a little bit of a temporary victory but you know we're really in the driver's seat. We've never not been in the driver's seat and that realization is I think hitting home with a lot of people right now Well said and i do appreciate the positivity i think you're making some great points and when it comes to the history of how we got so backwards i've heard you mention that the background of the AMA is a big part of the story and I didn't want at least touch on that because. It's a lot more ruthless than people might expect it isn't just some high

07:35 eyebrow academic organization forming to oversee and consolidate medical science under one big umbrella. It was more like divide and conquer, I would say what would you agree with that? Yeah, absolutely. And you know I had a conventional background and you know I just played sports went through all my studies graduate school and my first certification was in conventional medicine and I was as clueless as anybody else but one thing I think maybe I brought to the table is a little different is I did grow up in a bit of a different cultural background on you know my grandparents were from different countries different languages

08:14 They lived on the land. I grew up helping mom and dad in the garden, in the orchards you know my cousins were dairy ranchers and had a whole different practical side of myself we're self doers because we had to be and also sports is very grounded practical endeavor and I played at a pretty high level And when you're engaged in those activities, you just want to know what works. I saw the efficacy of, when I was in the conventional side because that was working more on emergency services but beyond that, I really wasn't finding the answers that I was seeking as far as how does a body work and how can humans reach your higher potential which led me into my alternative training and in Nature Pathic College, I got my first eye opening because

09:04 We had to first semester take a survey course on the history of naturopathy and what I found out was that naturopathy was actually the business of the day back in the 1900's. Naturopathic physicians were really considered the prominent physicians is who everybody went to and these young upstarts that were peddling literal snake oil, or the precursors of the AMA. They were very much shunned and rejected by the population so it'd be helpful if Americans knew that nature paths were the primary physicians at one time in this country And the way that the conventional system as we think of it today got hold

09:45 is just through amazingly ruthless tactics. We used to have Friday meetings, you know in Nature Path at college in our main hall there and we'd always have guest speakers And I used to sit next to this guy who was in his 90s. He was a naturopath who lived through those times, we got to be friends he'd tell me all sorts of stories about how he was routinely sent to jail how people like him were you know their families were persecuted their houses were burnt down in my survey course I found out that there is natural healing libraries like in Philadelphia four stories high they were burned to the ground and destroyed

10:24 And, you know it was just really a takeover by force. Then finally what they did by compromising our government which was long compromised since about 1871 is here probably where they de-legislated the whole certification and licensing possibilities for nature paths in first place so even if you wanted to be in nature path you couldn't there's no license for it I found that out in the seventies Which is why I actually went to chiropractic college at the end because in the state of California where i lived at that time they didn't license nature pass so I was still looking for a license back in those days. To open up a private practice and chiropractic served the purpose, oh thats...

11:09 Eventually what led me to chiropractic college, but I'm glad I did because that learned a lot of good skills too there So that was my eye opener and it just kept getting better over the years And I've got a lot of stories along that line. I can share that you know where I've seen a lot of my comrades You know bite the dust and you know really be targeted just for practicing real medicine so That's how they've done it and how they continue to do it today by brute force Yes we have seen the brute force template applied quite a bit and many different stories over time and that's a lot of great context and background. Asked why the natural way is a little bit on the more margins of society today it seems like they, one along battle but definitely not the war do you think were seeing or have already seen peak rockefeller medicine i believe

12:07 It has peaked and it's on the downside because as life expectancies decline, as they are plummeting right now. As people are finding out that pharmaceuticals and conventional practices you know shock in all medicine is I like to refer to it really doesn't work. You know people are just more and more seeking different solutions And again, the only thing that conventional size has left because they have really nothing left to offer this helpful is just indoctrination and propaganda machine behind them. If it wasn't for that they would've been gone a long time ago in fact they never got started in first place. The other thing that's happening simultaneously is a lot of

12:58 Modalities and real science is again resurfacing things that were on the planet for thousands of years and the one thing that. has been contributed, we'll say by more contemporaneous Western science. You know some of our different technologies if they're used properly in context they can actually be used to verify what people have always known in those other cultures and also actually improve upon them and then integrate it in a way that's more meaningful for the populations today And you know, I'm engaged and have been engaged for quite a long time in a lot of those technologies. So as the truth surfaces and their facade fades and they have nothing to offer except for things that are extremely harmful and becoming more and more apparent even to some of the most asleep people in our population, they've already experienced their demise as far as I'm concerned.

13:59 i like it that has to make people a little bit hopeful giving everything we've seen in the last year and half, i'm very interested in those technologies that can verify and prove these ideas let's talk a little more about the idea is themselves cuz in previous interviews i heard you mention several of the names i respect most when it comes to this sort of stuff guys like steiner and schauberger but I've also heard you say that what really connected all the dots and tied everything together was finding waveform mechanics and the work of Walter Russell, which is pretty new to me. But tell us a bit about his work and what you found so interesting and unique about it?

14:40 Yeah, Walter Russell is unique in you know many luminaries You know that I've studied and have mentored me in my studies But Walter Russell is unique and that he has deciphered all of the old ways you know things that other greats have talked about and taught for thousands of years and you know, starting all the way back with the Pythagoreans and beyond them and more contemporaneously with people like Rudolf Steiner. And I just had sort of an intuitive sense a lot about those people and just studied them on my own but when I found Walter Russell he actually broke down the mechanics of it to explain let's say in my left brain how

15:25 how those things were actually possible. So I no longer had to be, you know, conflicted between my heart and mind where my heart saying this stuff is right on and then my mind quibbling because I'm trying to figure things out more in a linear mindset that we've all been trained in our conventional studies since just life in general Western cultures So, I think that the biggest thing for me is Walter Russell by just laying out the mechanics we just loosely call waveform mechanics. It explains how those primal forces that actually originate from our thoughts create every facet of our reality and it also explains how the larger canvas created by our creator

16:07 Came to being in the first place and how we all get to play on that canvas together so for me it was a great reconciliation between the heart and mind. So that i can regulate my left brain into what is useful for and then have it shut up when it was no longer useful so that I could use my whole brain you know rather than just being in conflict and a lot of our so-called scientists these days it has been taught one half the equation They have a hard time accepting some of these new concepts because they never had it explained in a way and laid out so that the left brain could really analyze it say oh that really makes sense. Yes i like that a lot because that struggle that your expressing between the mind and the heart or the left and right brain i definitely have it comes up here a lot

17:01 What can you say about the technologies that really helped you get over that the technology is the tools u used to verify and prove, the underlying ideas of way for mechanics or this idea that everything does permeate from thought to physical reality that consciousness is primary these things are all in the kind of alternative paradigm soup. That we hear about so often How are you able to rectify the two sides of your brain using some of the tools that people might not be aware exist. You know it's really a process is a personal process in a way you can actually think of it as a spiritual journey and like most people i had to really digest one baby step at a time

17:56 And my first foray into what we call naturopathic medicine, you know I was traveling in circles the early pioneers of what we call clinical kinesiology and with that were German doctors and doctors from France that were the last remnants of that original bio terrain medicine will call it from Europe came to study with us because they knew we're making inroads into neurology in a whole different way. and in the process they introduced us to traditional bio-trained medicine. And bio-trained medicine, if your audience isn't familiar with it can simply be summarized as you treat the ecology of the body rather than disease. In fact we understand that there's really no such thing as disease or pathogens and that the whole germ theory of disease was

18:46 fostered by, you know, Louis Pasteur who plagiarized work of like Antoine Bouchamp and people that really knew the truth. And of course he was a cutout like a Dr. Fauci type character of the day that was a cutout for the powers-that-be that emanate back from the old royal society so long story short I found firsthand by treating thousands of people that what they're saying is actually true when Change my focus from disease and even then nature pathic circles i think we become way to alipha where were maybe using non toxic mediums and more gentle intelligent ways of treating people were still making war in a marginal way on the body rather than understand the body is a self maintaining self correcting organism.

19:36 So by treating that way for many years, I found that while there's a design in here all you have to do is understand how to work with it and the microbes and all these things. The conventional medicine taught us where the bad guys actually weren't in fact they were actually benign and beneficial actors in the process So now with that experience, you know I came to realize it. Wow what i learned along the way wasn't necessarily true and you know your paradigm your conventional paradigm through that kind of experience starts breaking down step by step and like I said I had another part of myself that was engaged in metaphysical studies

20:17 And, you know that was another part of the process where I could now apply different technologies. You know we would equate to maybe frequency medicine with Rife Technologies with sound and light technologies with Asian Medicine acupuncture which have been engaged with forever and then applying acoustic modalities you know with acupuncture just became apparent that the whole whole ballgame, the way the body works and the way everything outside us works is by resonance. And so step-by-step it finally helped me understand exactly what Steiner and Schauberger and some of these people you mentioned knew all along and especially what people way back at the beginning 5,000 years ago in Oriental medicine when you start reading the old like Shan Han Lun, like the Bible of Chinese medicine they're talking about

21:12 five element metaphors and things, you know. And they teach in cultural metaphors that were appropriate for them and here we are in our western culture mind trying to decipher that makes sense out of us but then I realized what the five elements they're talking actually about frequencies about keynotes And so all the pieces just gradually fit together and then like I said it finally led me to Walter Russell and waveform mechanics that just made sense out of the whole thing, and created a cohesive whole. new modalities that have surfaced on the planet that I'm engaged in, that allow you to directly work with those forces upstream so that I am even less engaged these days in looking at things under the microscopes than I used too and we're just working primarily with those waveforms like in fields of biogeometry radiosesia where your

22:06 literally bending waveforms that are putting those primal forces that are putting those biological events into play in the first place. Yes and the mechanics of how thoughts work that walter russell really Introduce you to in a way that was no paradigm shifting from your previous interviews it seems like some of the details there are that he would say there's only one substance in the universe pure consciousness, there are nine octaves and seven total fields within each one that kind of makeup reality. That thoughts create an electrical vector that polarizes and branches off into directions

22:54 and that causes a kind of vibration like guitar string in that polarization is what we pick up on as physical reality and. That seems to be kinda the gist my layman's early understanding of what i've heard you explain great detail but can you elaborate on some of that is that just of walter russells way for mechanics one oh one Yeah, and that's a fantastic summary. I can tell you've done your homework there and if our so-called scientists these days could just grasp what you just said we'd be in a whole different reality You know the thing that we have to understand also is That our senses as we think of them are five senses are part of that fabrication

23:40 You know just if you sit down with an electronic game, you have a little screen there where he can see your avatar and manipulate the controls. And get feedback from what's going on in the game and that's basically what we're doing here And when you understand the principle of resonance and that thoughts are things that do exactly what you just said, create the resonance by producing an electrical vector that polarizes it then creates a resonance. It then is picked up within a little device within the game we call our five physical senses. Then it out pictures to us in all these different ways gives all the myriad nuances and characteristics that were familiar with

24:25 in our external environment, in our lives the events in our lives and our own bodies but it's really not a physical thing. And you know I've had a lot of experience where you can have somebody that maybe has an issue when your working with them in real time and get to the point where you built up momentum through working with them over awhile and their simultaneously undergoing a consciousness shift in the process, it just naturally occurs. And now you can actually observe real-time changes on a person's body as you're working on them for instance something that just blew my mind along time ago is I was working with somebody with eczema and we went through a little process with them and then got to the end of the treatment

25:20 sequence that I did with them where i was doing a particular procedure and you could literally see the eczema which was pretty gross just start to fade right before your eyes. And we're both working there my jaw dropped open too even though I had a belief system as far as how it worked But you start seeing things like that and you realize, wow this physical substance as we think of it is the most mutable easy thing to change. But the hardest thing to change is our minds so if you know how to sequentially get to that point, you'll see miracles happen. Right on I love stories like that they definitely help to cement the idea that this is the way things are supposed to be

26:06 with examples like the eczema one you just gave us and other things that i can say sound miraculous and they do it kinda. Makes it hard for me to believe that when there's all these conditions that people in the conventional system are just told to live with based on the results alone of this more natural pathic medicine how are there not lines around the block word of mouth just lighting the whole field on fire it's hard to understand how just based on that we don't have better results are more attention on this field. Well actually for some of us that have practice at that way we are very busy

26:54 We always had a two-year wait in to see us. But what we did do is that we practiced in the private setting, because if we didn't do that, we would quickly draw the wrath of the powers at be and I saw a lot of people along ways come to that. I was targeted a couple times so those of us who are treating people with serious conditions... You know, we had people coming from around the world. We have little live-in units and, you know nice ground so people could be in a natural setting and kind of connect with nature between their visits. And we were very popular

27:32 but popular within very close channels and we took great measure to make sure that we weren't in a limelight in any way. So it was kind of, not just with me but other people I knew that practiced the same way you know were always the best kept secret and people who came to us came as consenting adults they knew the game Usually they came to us as a last resort because the system had given up on them. So by the time we got them, we had to spend as much time treating the treatment that they had received. You know usually there were nuked and sliced and diced by the time they got to us so they're pretty rough

28:11 But still, they came to us and it was all word of mouth. And I practiced in a very favorable situation because you know, I had my practice in the islands as kind of a nice closed little community so I treated a lot of the personnel at the hospital some chiefs of staff of different departments So, they trusted very much what I was doing. So, I could send my people in when I needed certain types of tests that I couldn't do in-house and then they'd say okay go back to Dr. Barry you're in good hands and so I got to experience the best of both worlds and what I like to think as integrative medicine and that's really the way I like to see things go because

28:56 Western medicine facilities do have things to offer, and if they had a proper context to put their modalities and personnel on technologies to use it would only be favorable to people that need help. So yeah, a lot of people find their way word of mouth, and that's growing day by day. And it's really hit the mainstream. I've been retired for a number of years and I see a lot of the things that we used to talk about with our clients behind closed doors that are just now common knowledge so it is shifting but the people that are still in the conventional system are kept there by fear because they will be blackballed they'll be ridiculed. I've experienced that in the past

29:44 They'll lose lucrative careers. And then of course, their controllers who count on these physicians and practitioners to be their gatekeepers there of course they have greater power to use the judiciary against you do all sorts of things to make your life very uncomfortable and even worse Again, that goes back to the beginning of our conversation. That's how they keep us in line and have kept what power they have so far but they're losing grip Yeah i think that's totally reasonable and understandable that those are the kind of difficulties in, basically pr war it's like you can't really learn about this stuff unless you have a practitioner to work with and if they're rare then the whole field is gonna be rare and as you kinda alluded to a lot of it is a mind war

30:40 and that is the first step is convincing the world that these practices don't work in benson americans that western medicine is far more advanced than any indigenous natural biology stuff you should just ignore it i mean, When that is in place that comes first and it's going to inform everybody decision making one question i have for you its always kind of been a curiosity of mine. Is about thoughts because i have a lot of gas to tend to, Maybe work in the realms of the occult or the easter terry can they operate from this same model that thoughts come first and reality is derived from them it's an idea i'm very attracted to you but if i use myself as an example i've had a really fortunate life with very little tragedy are violence but if im being honest its much easier for me to visualize tragic and violent things like if car comes close to cutting me off

31:37 i go through my head and what would happen if they did it all the gory details that would happen or if i walk around a corner too fast and stepped on my cat these things don't actually happened but the thoughts pop into my head much easier and clear then when i try to visualize my actual goals are successes there anything like that And maybe that's conditioning by society, I'm not sure. But I would imagine I'm not alone in that so what's going on here? Why are like violent or bad thoughts may be clear or easier to visualize but yet don't manifest and what is that relationship between what's in our head and what's in our reality? Well it's a twofold indoctrination system

32:22 Anybody, of course that watches the medium or even studies medicine or law. It's all based on bad things happening were taught that there's terrorists lurking in every alleyway and whether they're microbes or whether some kind of human terrorist everybody is out to get us And so, you know we are just N-grammed at a very deep level from day one in our lives to believe that this is a malvolent universe and bad things happen. So you know that tends to be our train of thought the second part that's even more devious is they've cut us off from source

33:06 especially through what we call science, which a lot of us call scientism these days because it is more akin to a religion. It teaches us that we live in a material universe where held together even our own bodies by these magic BB's that we call atoms and that we're like these corks bobbing on a vast ocean, subject to the whim of every ripple that comes along. We have no way to protect ourselves. We have nothing to say about it." Of course, that from the start was the beginning of The Plan through Religions that then morphed into what we call science to lead us in this highly superstitious state

33:52 So, if we really feel that we're that powerless it's going to be pretty daunting for most of us and that's the way we were indoctrinated. And then they just give the one-two punch with constantly reaffirming all the bad things that are happening in the world and all the bad things that will inevitably happen. That is why part of the population right now is sitting at home waiting for their other shoe to drop Well that is true that we are conditioned to expect bad things to happen and plan for tragedy and fixate on the negative in what might get us regardless of how well that matches real world experience but this paradigm that thoughts,

34:37 create reality it seems like something that we should be able to use right to improve our lives possibly to either manifest our own goals are there. Techniques and practices for strengthening our minds and manifesting our best thoughts and positive goals that you're aware of how do i use, like our emotions to help further this rather than getting in our way what you know if we default to what we'll maybe call spiritual practices that have been here forever, they all center around using our minds to visualize the reality that we want rather than just having these nonsensical thoughts chaotically

35:23 going across our screen all day long. So you learn to use your mind in a little bit more of a disciplined way now that's pretty tough for people these days because people even have a hard time sitting down reading a book because they're so used to looking at things on their devices. And that is part of the way technology has been used against us, so somehow we have to get back to that place where we can bring a little bit of control back into our mindset and use our imagination for instance in Tibet good example is when they took young minds into the temples

36:05 going to have a lifetime in more of a monastic society, the way they would teach them first is not just giving them information bits like we get these days. But they would spend a good number of years early on in their education using their mind constructing very elaborate structures you know, buildings and you had free reign to create anything you want with rooms and hallways and levels and desks and drawers in all these rooms. Once you did that and it became so tangible to you that you could go anywhere in your imagination in this creation

36:50 Then, they would start giving you bits of information. And then when you got that whatever that morsel was... You could just go put it wherever you want. You might go into a certain room in a place, put in the certain drawer and know exactly where it is just like you know where the keys to your car are or is in your own house. It was real education where you learned how to use your mind, use your imagination to create very tangible things and then take the information that might be useful to you and put it in a place where you'd never forget it.

37:26 Our education instead is really about giving kids abstract symbols, you know as far as letters of the alphabet. Mathematical symbols and everything is really never real in the first place and of course on day one we're taught that your imagination is not real it's make-believe but somehow these little abstract factoids are more real. We have to turn it around, I think from childhood on now adults can do it just as much but it's going to take a little bit more effort for most of us that have had a lifetime of indoctrination so imagination is the key

38:10 Well said and on the subject of turning it around i've heard you say that diagnosis has been inverted we examine the after effects and we get lost we got a inverted back and determine a solution for a lot of the problems people are dealing with And so I guess i would ask when it comes to health and healing if a person comes to you in a state of disease. How do you approach them as a bio terrain specialist if your not trying to kill a virus or destroy adjourn can elaborate a little bit more on how you go about diagnosis and then determining treatment has to do with these are. Optus and different possible readings that you might get right here

38:58 Once you get a little experience as a physician, the first thing I learned was you have to meet people where they're at. So, if they come in and they've got a serious condition first off they're really you know in a state of angst and quite emotional turmoil. So, if I start downloading a lot of information it's going to stretch your imagination even further then you know you're not going to get anywhere so there is a way if a person is coming in from a conventional mindset And to just repeat, people would come to me as a last resort typically. So they were willing to try something new. What have you got to lose? The other side said I'm dead go put my affairs in order

39:43 So, I had that advantage as far as getting their ears from the start. But then we would start with things that were tangible. You know, I'd sit them down and take samples of their blood look under the microscope with them explain things just take it out of the mystical and really try to make congruous sense out of it and then do measures that they were ready for, where we start cleaning up their terrain, getting organ systems working better. And then we keep daily looking at their blood and they'd see real life changes happening. I'd explain to them that type of inside

40:24 in-house labs that I would do and show them the results and explain as best as I could what that meant. And then, you know, I'd do these labs daily and then you show them the changes and they get really encouraged that they can see that they're actually making progress. As they make progress their body is doing better there's less stagnation in their meridians, in their circulation, their lymph, every facet of their body, their neurology They start thinking a lot clearer and then you start having different conversations. And before you know it, we're talking about things that you and I are talking about today and it's not stressing them at all

41:06 which goes back to our earlier conversation, that's what we're all going through these days. We have to just start with where we're at not try to be where somebody else is at or digest something that seems too far out and the clearer you get about things then you start looking in contrast to what were taught in conventional science through the media and so forth and it just doesn't make any sense anymore. In fact, it actually starts becoming I mean, if it wasn't so tragic it would be hilarious because it's incongruous everywhere you look. When I was in just basic physics you learn the law of thermodynamics as an example and then you find that the different laws contradict each other even before I knew all that I know now I used to think to myself well how can that be? If one thing says this and another thing says that then that means one things

42:03 Not true and is a whole thing, a bunch of BS. But you know it's amazing you have your PhDs your doctors and everything that just never ask those questions because they're afraid to so you know it's really a sequential process I guess the answer question. Yeah cheers to that! It seems to come in mind blowing waves that you realize that you need a ticket further and challenge another thing and then other than when u. Look through a certain segment of industrialized society find the old ways are right there they're still preserved and their

42:40 far better and i also wanted to maybe throw a little bit about the microscope you use you mentioned looking at people's blood and this is something that come up before cuz what person goes through the traditional system there trained to examine dead things And so no wonder we don't think there's a difference between alive and dead but also the electron microscope isn't even a very good representation of the micro world from what i understand, add you seem to have a better way is that right. Well, there's a man by the name of Gunther Enderlein who took Antoine Bouchamps' understanding of the bio train and that germs were actually a natural part of the environment. And then he developed first microscope what we call live cell microscopy where you look at things in their live state it illumines say to different angle from the bottom up and then you put live elements directly

43:36 taken out of the body onto the slide there and you can see things swimming around. In my conventional studies in histology, you're staining samples of tissues and fluids so that it does bring out certain elements and kind of fixate them in a way that's useful in some ways depending on what you're looking at but it's not going to really tell you what's going on in an alive medium. I mean, it'd be like torching an external environment and then going out looking at the aftermath and trying to figure out how life works in that environment. And the first thing you understand in this kind of microbiology is that

44:17 cells are working in conjunction with microbes in a very intimate way. And that these microbes that we think are the bad actors actually live within us all the time and you would see, for instance the little seeds of these different organism families in the blood and then you'd watch them in real-time progressing through these different stages that we would in conventional medicine call bacteria and fungi, and some of these bacteria that if you took them at a certain phase and then cultured them in conventional lab study, you'd say oh they're streptococcus or staphylococcus. And with the medics we're not ever allowed to experience their see with their own eyes is how the progression of the seeds are those that we call protids

45:07 in German microbiology or somatiz, people like Gaston Nassons visualized in his version of the same microscope he called a somatoscope. You'd see these progressing through predictable stages and they'd always progress to a certain stage to provide a certain function for the body if a part of the body had diseased tissue or needed certain regenerative effects in certain tissues and any myriad number of things certain organisms progress to different stages in order to provide that function. So when you sit there day after day and spend hours looking at this stuff, you realize wow it's beyond conjecture that the system of conventional microbiology has it wrong from the very start.

45:58 i love it all the stuff i think helps to take people are still wrestling with which paradigm you know getting out of the old paradigm all this stuff i think helps them to see why things are so screwed up I heard you say that if it was up to you every doctor would take four years of permaculture and farming first, add that when u live in study a nature you see the patterns at reset even your own neurology can elaborate on these things how has engaging with nature and actually getting your hands in the dirt confirmed a lot of these ideas and strength and overall world view.

46:37 If we start at maybe Asian medicine and look at what we think of as the acupuncture meridian system, What it is, is a system that is constantly resonating with the external environment and in a two-way fashion communicating that resonance from the external environment into the internal environment to create moment by moment equilibrium effects so you are in balance with your surroundings. That's its primary purpose. Even in acupuncture, we've realized that there are internal meridian systems within every organ and that's another whole story. So we could elaborate greatly on that but going back to the external environment everything out there is operating on the same principles and when you work with nature

47:32 The more you spend time out there, it just becomes apparent and very palpable that this resonant factor is operating between us and the environment all the time. If you're ready for that kind of communication things become very tangible and you get feedback in the form when you're growing things You realize over time that the more you tune in, in a certain way with what you're growing that things respond very favorably. You also realized there's a whole communication system with the mycelium and the ground like where I live and the forest around us is mycelium heaven here because we're in Pacific Northwest

48:19 Then there's a whole communication between mycelium and the microorganisms. It's a vast communication network, and then that again is communicating with us all the time. When disease happens as we think of it is because we have lost that communication nexus with our surroundings and we become dissonant with those surroundings That's where things start to go awry with the advent of factory farming and all the urbanization. Now we even tampered with the residence of nature

49:01 So, not only does that affect nature and all the problems we see in our environment but it affects us greatly. So doctors really need to get outside put their hands in the dirt and understand that it's a communication system. It's a network of resonance that we are not only part of but we can't be severed from And if we do get severed from it, again that's where things start going wrong. So farming follows the same principles that I practiced in biological medicine the same way that I tend to my soil is the same way I tended people's bodies and there's no difference between the two. We use even some of the same laboratory procedures

49:53 to test people's fluids as we do to test the soil, where you extrapolate chemistry into electrical vectors and understand reality from that electrical vector context. Which again are those primal forces that put things in motion in the first place so whether you're treating this soil outside or the body when you use herbology homeopathy any other modality, what you're really doing is very efficiently using those substances to adjust the electrical vectors rather than trying to make chemical changes. And then that's what's going to create that congruity of residence within ourselves in the outside soil and then re-establish the communication between the two

50:38 Very interesting man just the whole idea of assessing things at the electrical level it's just a whole. New way to think about disease and problems in various structures weather there and plants soil or people, and i'm just kinda curious this might be a little bit of a weird one haven't heard you talk about these things but have you ever pursued what they call or miss or monotonic gold or mineral alchemy it seems to drive, and be somewhat adjacent to the danger talking about but it definitely has a more is so terry flavor but i am fascinated by those realms today fold in your overall umbrella yeah or mess.

51:25 Orbally rearranged monatomic elements, as we could call them. Our transitional elements is what I prefer to call them now. Ormus has taken on some mystical connotations in certain circles And it does do amazing things when we get a regular supply of this so-called ORMUS. Our bodies, our nervous system should be likened to a superconductor. So that means of course signals travel unimpeded beyond the speed of light And when that happens, we turn into more of our original self which is a zero-point energy. So it takes little or no input from the outside in order to operate us. We enter maximum efficiency and when that happens also energy systems open up that are a little bit stagnated in most people. Energy travels to the pineal and other places in our higher centers

52:24 that open up our bandwidth of perception. Now what ORMIS really is, it's transitional elements that are between the keynotes of what we think of as elements on a periodic table and Walter Russell understood that very much So, you could take maybe hydrogen and carbon two different elements on a periodic table. Now those are keynotes and just like key notes on a piano keyboard when you play a particular chord, you hear the harmonics which is really the pleasant part of music and that's that transitional, those transitional harmonics between the keynotes. In nature things are not cast in stone either

53:08 even down to the elements. If you take hydrogen, which is the beginning of the fifth octave in Walter Russell's understanding and the periodic table that hydrogen is going to eventually if you understand it as just an angulation of a waveform rather than really physical substance like hydrogen is about 33 degrees on the positive side of the equator of a waveform. Carbon is 90 degrees straight up, that's kind of the pinnacle of the fifth octave which is the basis of our playground here we're in the carbon octave and the next octave up is where we're going and it's just you know we're traveling through the octaves into higher levels of consciousness

53:50 So, as hydrogen eventually makes a journey and back full circle through all the elements it might take thousands of years in the Earth's surface or beneath the Earth's surface but it happens nevertheless. If you take any element that you can think of, it is going to eventually become every other element And when it's in between the keynotes that we recognize as physical metallic elements, they're in a pre-metallic ceramic state. There was a gentleman David Hudson who was a soil scientist and he discovered these back on about

54:29 1989 and I actually got together with him shortly after. So, I started investigating ORMIS as it was called back then from the very start but ORMIS is a terminology borrowed from more of an atomic theory of elements, but when you get into the waveform mechanics you realize what they really are. They're transitional elements they are in a state of becoming now these transitional elements are also very powerful because they are the informational fields that our body needs Just as any farmer will tell you these days that the basic mineral elements are very deficient in the soil and water, while these transitional elements are even more delicate and even more deficient. That's why we take great measure to concentrate these transitional elements – there're ways to do this from the water in other ways – then combine them

55:26 with the keynotes or what people would think of as regular minerals from like fulvic or humic sources and make sure that information is part of the package because it's so, so important. And it's really what we need the most otherwise it would be more like digital music whereas when you start understanding the transitional nature of elements your back to analog music and thats what our body thrives on Wow and i'm glad i ask cuz you said so many fascinating things there and before we really call it in. Obviously use a lot of products on the website people can also become apart of the co-op do you wanna elaborate on some other things all find for health and wellness on your website how they can contribute to this prototype that you got going on,

56:19 Sure, I appreciate that. We're at alphavedic.com and the reason why we created a commercial enterprise is in order to self-fund ourselves and to create everything that we're talking about it takes a lot of time and money this is a culmination of many decades of my life and learning so our products you know were here on a new piece We're in our fifth year. We had a more developed farm elsewhere, but we outgrew it so we're here doing the same thing recreating and the goal is one ingredient at a time were growing it and any farmer knows that you don't just go plant a bunch of seeds and grow everything all at once especially if you adhere to biodynamic permaculture principles.

57:10 mass factory farming, you know we just plow some stuff and hire a bunch of people and grow a bunch of stuff because more than just growing things. We also in the process want to grow topsoil for future generations because they might want to have something to eat too And we want to improve the ecology where we farm rather than just take from it and destroy it so our products reflect that Now, we have trusted sources where we get ingredients where we aren't capable of growing it yet. But every year we expand our crops so that a lot of our products will reflect more with what we're growing and our goal is to have 100%.

57:52 Everything that we have in our products is what we grow right here, or in some of our sister brother-sister farms. We have one in Hawaii and we've got other people that are interested so in a cooperative method, we can pull our resources and have more ingredients that we can trust because we grew them ourselves So, that's what we're really up to. That's the way we fund ourselves and the formulas that I create are not just putting in ingredients because they're the latest trend that everybody is talking about

58:29 I create things based on their function and what I've learned in my years of practice, how things really work. Not just having an impressive ingredient list which has everything that everybody's been hearing about so they buy it. We just design things a little bit different but that's what we're up to and I appreciate you bringing that up. Yes man the range of things you offer is very wide so i encourage people to check them out and also the alpha cast podcast these are podcast listeners they should know that you do a show with. Buddy yours and you have some great guests in a lot overlap with what we do so i think they would also enjoy checking that podcast out too but man you really know a lot about a lot

59:21 i appreciate your time there so many different threads here that i know i definitely want to follow up on and you make it all seem so hopeful. There's a lot of ways people can look at the world and right now its hard to really focus on what might be emerging when we see so many things kind of, collapsing in so many of our friends and family being rooted in the old system but i also think there's a lot of opportunity and it's really really exciting to talk to people like you and really be on the forefront of a new system emerging me we

59:59 Quite possibly manifested here at this time for a reason so let's engage with that and usher in the new world so i really appreciate everything and. Thanks for helping us on the path man keep doing what you do it's been real pleasure thank you again thanks again for having me i really enjoyed our talk you got it holy hell praise be people who want to get show I cannot believe how impressive Dr. Lando's life has been! The guy has lived, no doubt It is amazing that he went through such conventional routes and still ended up on the natural path path It is slightly surprising to me that more people don't but only certain folks are wired that way

1:00:48 But man, Dr. Lando is clearly a wealth of knowledge and he really walks the walk when it comes to applying this worldview to not only human health but permaculture and gardening and just a holistic model for reality itself! I do remember Crow bringing up Walter Russell in Waveform Mechanics the last time we spoke but other than that this was pretty new to me The general idea has obviously been in the air for a long time But with Walter Russell, it's about the level of detail from what I've seen that makes it the most impressive. Reality just seems to be a stack of layers seen and unseen and corresponding elements making notes on the great cosmic grand piano! See string theory is just stuck on the wrong instrument but we covered a lot of ground and it makes me feel a lot more confident that I'm invested in the right paradigm

1:01:45 Sometimes the full-court press of the system can cause us to second guess ourselves, especially when we aren't necessarily experts in any specific discipline. But I trust the Berlandos of the world! He lives out off the grid on a satellite internet connection so i am sorry if our editing didn't clear up all the breakups We even switched to zoom after 20 minutes to try and improve the overall situation But when a person walks the walk, there are inconveniences. That's the whole point of the COVID shot right? If you don't get it prepare for a slew of inconveniences! if you don't want to live in a smart city and you want to be a bit more off-the-radar well your internet connection also isn't going to be that great we all have to decide where our line is and what level of participation were comfortable with I guess but i respect the people who land on the same side of these choices as bear does quite a bit

1:02:43 even if it makes getting an interview recorded in an optimal environment a little more difficult. But as for this alternative treatment paradigm and some of the things that sound like healing miracles, As much of a believer as I am, I do still get caught up in how this stuff can be the best-kept secret—that healing is cheap easy and has no side effects doesn't just blow the suppression out of the water because it's so effective! And so many people are in a bad state of health Everybody's got an aunt and uncle or grandma. And you would think if you see one person healed like this from a serious condition that the system says is unhealable, everyone in your family would adopt this worldview right? I mean when i asked Dr Lando did say he was very busy yet two year wait and he's often treating people who are seeking a last resort

1:03:39 They've been through it all, their conditions are worse than they've ever been and now you finally seek out natural healing and terrain-based treatment. And it still works most of the time? That's a big deal! And we hear that a lot too... The alternative approaches have the best results with people who are in the most desperate state. I also think about the people I know. I know people with bad eczema and fibromyalgia and Crohn's disease and cancer If I told these people about a lesser known acupuncture technique or tuning fork healing, they would definitely just laugh. As much pain as some of them might be in most of them wouldn't even try if i came to them with a healed deaf ear maybe they'd listen no pun intended but Dr Lando is right and that it's really a mental thing if you heard the last full show with Gordon

1:04:34 When we talked about healing my ear in the Plus show, he pretty much said the same thing. A big part of the healing is knowing it can be done and then allowing it to happen Maybe its attached to some emotional trauma or baggage that needs to be worked out too And I don't want to bring up the deaf ear thing every time I have a guest like this because It's not always a song about me, it's a song about all of us and probably sounds like a broken record to you guys But I asked Dr. Lando about his thoughts on a possible solution for me off air, and he mentioned TAM acupuncture And there are actually two places in San Diego that use that specific modality And wouldn't you know? They actually list deafness as something they have had success with on their website Which is so crazy because... There it is! Right in plain sight! And 99% of people would think this kind of healing would be impossible

1:05:33 And it is pretty funny of me to think that I need to go to some off-the-grid shaman in the jungle for this sort of thing when there seems to be a place and strip mall in La Jolla just quietly doing their thing between a tire store and Itan. But the people practicing these things, they know the deal They know its poking the bear and they probably just want to do what they do and stay under the radar with a nice quiet little successful business A sentiment I can certainly understand because i feel the same way about what I do. I get enough attention and I really don't care if YouTube shuts us down or if the free audience even expands at all! I wish more people would convert over to The Plus Show, but we've heard that story before right? Anyway...I am glad I got that Ormus question into the first hour. Transitional elements is a great term to think about these things actually and from there The Plus Show got pretty wild

1:06:29 Bear explained how alive our thoughts really are and the five electronic levels. We got into trying to understand what spiritual forces really are, and a better model for human anatomy, herbologies, spagyrics, and alchemy. Dr Lando's process for assessing a person and finding the right tool for the job. German New Medicine which some people have been asking me about lately How vaccination affects the soul, conscious commerce and a bunch of other little tidbits. Really interesting stuff if you're just here in the free first hour you're missing out! Conscious commerce is a good one I like mediums of direct exchange outside of this system i actually haven't paid for coffee beans in at least a year because two different coffee roasters listen to THC and we trade

1:07:21 Wind and Sea Coffee, if you want that sweet sweet CBD infused goodness. And Lab Notes coffee another great company who makes a great product I've traded THC Plus for all sorts of things! Coffee beans artwork crystals vaporizers glass supplements...I'm very willing to do that. I don't really need any more artwork or supplements but if you make something that you think I'm interested in let's talk about it If you want to pay in pretty much any crypto excepted by the Exodus wallet, I'm down for that too. Help me help you people! But that's the show. Big thanks again to Bear such an impressive wealth of information and inspiration really. His podcast is great too check it out but im getting outta here. I've done my part Your move medical system manipulators waveform reality deniers holistic model suppressors your fuckin' move

1:08:20 Oh no, you see The world isn't random it's attached to puppet strings Control over everything The 9-to-5 has tried to steal ya Now don't that job seem silly? Hello can you hear me Or should I play back recordings from some spying agency? Wish we were younger and free. I'll be thankful when it's all exposed, the vast conspiracy There's such a difference between us And the Denver child

1:09:20 Hello from the higher side They're calling out a thousand cries They'll tell you the story of everything that's been done Then they'll call out deception Of the web that's been spawned Hello from the higher side The earth is hollow They'll tell you about something that no one else will Have you heard of, have you heard about the real since the war? But no they're cartoons It's so typical me to talk about this stuff I'm sorry That's good and well

1:10:32 Did you ever hear the argument that nothing really happens? It's no secret And that the best is plumbed It's doubling your time Hello from the higher side They're calling out a thousand cries Now tell me you're something the elite have done And they'll call out deception from the web that's been sworn Hello from the heights, yeah Challenging your power

1:11:25 And I'll tell you something, that the battle's begun But we can't fight it with violence The mind's where it's won at the war Hello from a higher side They're calling out our thoughts

1:12:19 have done and they'll call out deception of the web that's been spun from the higher side challenging your paradigm and I'll tell you, hey! That the battle has begun but we can't fight it with violence The mind where is one that's stuck