Dr. Andrew Kaufman | Schizophrenia, The COVID-19 Coronavirus, & Exosomes

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01:30 Hallelujah and hello, Hireside Chatters trying to stay sane in a world gone mad. From sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood and i think it's safe to say that the coronavirus chaos is affecting us all right now we all know hard-working people who are suddenly without jobs successful business owners who suddenly can't conduct business And friends and family that have been so traumatized they'll probably never shake hands or hug you again without at least thinking about this mess And these are all consequences that have more to do with a virus panic than they do an actual virus problem. It seems like those of us who said to fear not are being vindicated this week, as the models used to whip up this frenzy have been revised by a factor of 10. We've seen documents that show the CDC and World Health Organization have used every trick in the book to move unrelated deaths into the COVID-19 column

02:22 And more healthcare workers and data experts are seeing through the smoke screen of fear and panic, and realizing the numbers just aren't adding up. But my greatest fear is that this is not just a one-off event but might actually in fact become the new normal! Turning the social spigots and financial faucets on and off at the will of a nefarious militaristic medical cartel. Which brings me to today's powerhouse guest Dr Andrew Kaufman who has been making the rounds doing what he can to beat back The Beast and educate those willing to listen, He now works primarily in forensic psychiatry, but has an impressive wide-ranging medical background and education including a Bachelor of Science in Molecular Biology, a Physician's Assistant certification, a Doctor of Medicine, and was even a Teaching Assistant in the Molecular Biology Lab at MIT.

03:12 Hard to argue with that and I expect this to be just the medicine we need so let's do it. The CDC operation exposer, hype bubble deflator and a true thorn in the side of the corporate medical cartel Dr. Kaufman welcome to higher side I will thank you so much for having me great it's really a pleasure to be here and i've been a fan and listener of your show for several years so its really. A little bit nervous to be honest with you but i have an important message to get out people so course the opportunity in your platform is valuable that ever. You're too kind you're too kind and i have heard you on crow show a couple times i've watched the series that you been doing on youtube. Add it was a pleasant surprise to hear david focus mainly on what he's learned from you specifically in his recent viral interview on this subject,

04:01 I'm sure it's been a very busy couple of weeks so i really do appreciate you talking with us today and i guess to kick this off because i do want this to be something we can use to bring more of our friends and family into alignment with us rather than what they're seeing on cable news. Can you elaborate on your own medical background and where you started to see that something wasn't right with the conventional paradigm because it typically seems like the ones who go through these systems are the ones who have the most faith in them. Yeah absolutely and i did do a lot of things before i went to medical school

04:39 Even in addition to what you mentioned, I collected case surveillance data for AIDS with the New York Health Department and the CDC. So i have experience of knowing how that data is collected and compiled for the statistics that they're putting out And also had experience in the healthcare industry when I had a medical device startup so That gave me some unique insights into how the business of medicine works But really what was the biggest factor was that when i started going through my clinical training. And this is you know after i already had two years of clinical experience working in cancer medicine and i was so busy and overwhelmed learning during that time i couldn't really see what's going on until i looked back at it later but when i was in my psychiatry training i began noticing that

05:32 By prescribing the medications that we were told was a treatment for these problems, you know such as depression anxiety schizophrenia people were not getting better and For most drugs. I actually couldn't see any positive effect at all from the patients that I was working with and Some of them seem to get some temporary belief but then the same problems came back and they were still Suffering so i began to question this and one of the things that was fortunate to be a duke in my training because they emphasize evidence-based medicine which is kind of a buzzword. That means you should see what the medical science says when you make decisions about how are you gonna diagnose and treat illness

06:17 So we had a special week the seminar that everyone participated in where we were sometimes assigned articles to look at. Add time and then we would present them and people would critique the methods say you know what could you actually make the conclusions the authors made based upon the experiment and data and it was very Open mind or surprising to see that many times that you actually couldn't really tell much from the studies so. There was one big study that really open my eyes up

06:54 When a drug company applies to the FDA to get approval for a new medication, they have to submit all of the studies they performed on it. But when it comes to publication where other people can read it, they only publish studies that show something that's favorable to their drugs so if there let's say testing an antidepressant They might do 10 different trials with maybe 50 to 100 people in each trial. So let's say that four of the trials show that the drug is beneficial and six of the trials show no benefit from the drug, what they would do is they would publish the four trials that showed a benefit and if you're looking at literature there will be a bias that shows that medication is beneficial so there was a researcher I believe he was from outside psychiatry research

07:45 And he put in a Freedom of Information request to the FDA to get the studies that were submitted for the application to get approval. That included all of the studies that were not published, that we didn't have access to previously And what he did is he combined all of the results into one set of data and did something called a meta-analysis. This is pretty powerful thing because you can actually include sometimes hundreds of studies and combine them into one to see what the overall effect shows, and when he did this for particular antidepressants, what he showed was essentially there was no benefit at all it was just a placebo

08:27 So of course when I read that and that was the conclusion, well then why are we prescribing these drugs? Because everybody else in the room also realized what the significance of that was. And there was kind of an aha moment and everybody then went back to work and continued to prescribe the drugs without a second thought And this just really bothered me so i kept reading more and more and in my own practice i kept prescribing less and less. And i focused on psychotherapy and other things that i can do but as i left my training and began working, add a faculty member and i kind of specialized in working in the criminal justice setting so i was in jail and places like that and

09:20 Basically the only reason they really hard you is just to be a prescription machine. They want you to see as many people as possible so it would be cheaper for them and expected you to just write a lot of prescriptions and this made me very uncomfortable because i saw that wasn't really helpful, And eventually I was able to get out of that kind of a situation and find a little niche area at work where they tolerated me taking people off medications. So as i was in this position and feeling more comfortable about what I was doing, I just started to do some additional research about what's going on in other areas of medicine. That's when I thought about my prior experience working with cancer patients and I remember that

10:08 Virtually no patients in the end got better that I worked with. Almost every single one had died of their cancer despite all of the very, very expensive and sometimes heroic and very punishing treatment that they were experiencing. And as I branched out in different areas of medicine, I saw lots of evidence from their own literature and studies that almost all of the treatments that are provided don't cure any illness They seemingly perpetuate a chronic illness state and require you to have ongoing treatment and take medications forever. And there have been several whistleblower types from the pharmaceutical industry telling us that yes, their goal is that every single American by the time they're 50 years old should be taking a certain number of medications and then as they get older it should be more and more

11:03 Because that's a great business model if you can sell drugs and have someone take it for the rest of their life and then when i started exploring. other healing methods outside of that model some of them based on a traditional medicine that was in our own country before the report and rockefeller. I put a lot of those medical schools out of business like homeopathic medicine and natural path medicine i started learning about plants and herbs i started learning about what is the real cause of disease I think it's mostly related to the thousands of toxins that we're exposed to in our daily lives and some of them, we don't have so much control over but many of them we actually unknowingly or unwittingly put inside our own bodies.

11:49 And as i slowly started to work with people based on these principles when i'm finding is that people get better and are actually completely cured. Many diseases that the medical community would provide lifelong medications or say it's not curable and talking about things you know like diabetes and heart failure and infections and mental illness like anxiety and schizophrenia. I mean, they certainly never ever said that anyone could be cured of schizophrenia during all of my psychiatric experience in training And i found out with some very simple techniques people can be completely free of the symptoms and emotional turmoil that comes with severe illness

12:37 Wow wow i mean that was something that was on my outline for a little bit further down the road but since you just mentioned it and i am kind of part of two communities that seems susceptible to schizophrenia being conspiracy minded people and heavy marijuana users These communities i mean sometimes people do slip into this state of schizophrenia but. Give me your background what you think that is a mean in your little thing that you had written to me said is it a demon is the parasite is it a demon parasite and those are questions that i find pretty provocative, but i guess using that as an example of some things that people think can't be cured and maybe can we just say about that examples get so funny

13:24 Yeah, well it's a really interesting example and I certainly don't have definitive answers. And that is true with many of these alternative hypotheses because since our medical paradigm has to do with germ theory and infections causing illness there is no funded research available to look at alternative theories and causes. That's even true for a disease like schizophrenia that has really Not been shown like all the research on it thus far is not really shown that much in the way of what causing it Except for this one small area of research that I had, of course learned about but In mainstream medical circles most people just completely dismiss it But there's study after study that shows that people with schizophrenia Have a certain type of parasite called Toxoplasma gondii

14:18 The illness that's related to it some people may know about from aids because when your immune system is very suppressed some AIDS patients have got this disease called toxoplasmosis and then people also know about it from being pregnant because cats like house cats are actually an animal that harbors this parasite as part of its life cycle. And when people have cats in the house and they get pregnant, it's often advised for the pregnant woman to not change the litter box and stay away from the cat to avoid being infected with this parasite. So there are some studies that show large percentages of people with schizophrenia in their studies have this parasite in their body and some evidence even in the brain

15:04 So, this really got me thinking and I had heard about another natural healer Dr. Jennifer Daniels who is a big proponent of turpentine. Turpentine which by the way it's a natural product it's the oil fraction after you distill the sap from a spruce pine tree so its not something that made in petrochemical It's been used in traditional medicine for quite a long time. In fact, if you look at the Merck Manual which is an encyclopedic index of all therapeutic materials or drugs or agents including naturals and botanicals from 1898, you'll see that actually turpentine is listed as a treatment for 50-60 different conditions including things like syphilis

15:57 And what it really does is it helps dissolve some of the toxins that keep parasites in your body because parasites are freeloaders. And so they only hang around when there is free food and when everything's nice and comfortable So since she claimed to work with a few people with schizophrenia, and give them a turpentine protocol I kind of put these two things together because turpentine is well documented to help remove parasites from the body and then there's a scientific study about the parasites. So when i had the possibility to work with someone and they were willing to undergo this protocol, they had just amazing results. I remember getting a call from their parents saying my child was back and that was just amazing. Wow!

16:51 So i followed this up with some discussions with jerry martz insky and he's a psychologist to spend decades working mostly in. like forensic mental hospitals where the criminally insane would be. He did work in some criminal justice facilities, but basically he worked with people with schizophrenia who had been violent in some way and that's why they were there and what he found is that if he instructed some of his patients with schizophrenia to read Psalm 23 from the Bible it made their voices go away for a period time

17:29 They did come back but they also didn't like it so in schizophrenia what happens is that people have this experience, add a here voices talking to them and conventional medicine were told that this is a hallucination like. Check your brain plays on you and we all know if you take too much of certain drugs you can have hallucinations. And we kind of explain it that way but after he heard that the voice is actually protested When the person was reading some 23 like they told them to stop it and then they went quiet he thought he was on something and I think that's where the original idea. The possible demon came into play so he actually told me about another method called a that's alive program i can't remember the name of the woman but this is a woman who in her twenties

18:24 Add a psychotic break and she figured out this method of trying to stop it and its basically that when the voices talk to her she would just say that's a lie. And you started off saying it out loud and she kept with every time they talked and after doing this for a couple days she said they started Quieting down and eventually completely went away and she was able to go back to a normal life. So i happen to be working with the teenager with this problem when i heard about this and i tried three different anti psychotic medications within because

19:03 They do quiet down the voices in about 40% of the time, but they don't do anything beyond that. So usually the person is still pretty miserable and can't have a normal life because of the other symptoms. Since he had failed three different medications I thought it's time to try something different and he started off with Psalm 23 and got the same exact benefit And then I introduced him to The That's A Lie Strategy I saw him two weeks later and i saw something that i had never seen in my career before that not only did he tell me the voices. Completely when away but he was smiling you were showing joy of life,

19:51 And when people have schizophrenia they get what's called negative symptoms where they don't express emotion and they don't show enthusiasm or excitement they don't have motivation to engage in activities are not interested in things there like just a blank empty vessel. And i never seen anyone recover from that in my entire career. From any conventional treatment and this is the first time i saw someone actually look like a well adjusted teenage boy after being like i just described it's even hard for me to believe that something so simple could have such amazing results

20:31 Yeah yeah wow i mean that is a great example and i didn't expect our first half hour to be about schizophrenia but it's also interesting and you know these are organic interviews but, you also earlier kind of broke down a prescription template that you saw in the journey that is used across several different sectors of medicine. I think thats kinda important framing And I do want this to be about more than the isolated coronavirus incident, but we gotta mention that. And let's maybe talk about viruses and germ theory overall. And i know casting any doubt on this is such a taboo that just mentioning it will lose people but

21:13 Bright minds like Rudolf Steiner and Royal Raymond Reif had realized that viruses are more like excretions of a poison cell rather than the cause of any disease. And even the current head of the National Institute of Health gave a talk on exosomes recently, making a very similar point if you want to go with an official source. So I'm hearing more experts getting on board with this not less And when we have something that many take as a given, we really have to walk it back and show the flaws in how he got here. There really has been resistance all along the way even though it's been marginalized but what would you say to people in this regard? In the overall case for germ theory and how we mentally think about viruses

22:02 Well this is a really important point because we've all been raised in a society that has accepted the germ theory paradigm as. Truth as a law but it's still called germ theory for a reason because it is a theory and i'm gonna tell you how it actually is a theory that has not been proven but actually disproved But the reason it's so important is because since we all except this and of course i accepted this on my life. Wait before medical school everybody is aware of germ theory which states basically that there some kind of organism that you can't see, that comes either from another person or from some other source in the environment and invades us and causes disease

22:46 That when i talk to people about this they always wanna talk about other knowledge that's based upon this and they want an explanation for those other things like. For example contagion but the thing is that if the fundamental underlying, truth is actually false, then everything built upon it falls down like a house of cards. And it doesn't matter what the real explanation is, the important point is the explanation is not from a germ." So germ theory was originally conceptualized in the early to mid-1800s—actually

23:27 several decades before past but pastor is mostly credited with being the sort of patriarchal germ theory. And pastor himself was somewhat fraudulent because he plagiarized most of his materials and didn't really devise any of this on experiments many of them copied off a famous scientist named antoine bay shan And Bay Sean was a hardcore scientist really it was the kind of scientists that is just in the laboratory doing research because he wants to figure out how things work and experiments were about fermentation. So they were using fermentation as a model of infectious disease because they were interpreting experiment on fermentation applying them to people's diseases

24:21 which is kind of a weird thing because fermentation is how we make wine and beer. So, we definitely don't think about that process as akin to disease but what it has to do with this that there are microorganisms that are breaking down dead plant and animal tissue if its animals they call it putrefaction But Becham's original experiments seem to show that in order to have fermentation the micro-organism had to come from the air or from the environment And that's really what pastor ran with he actually repeated that experiment but kind of made a spectacle out of it because you went around france and collected air from different vineyards because you know france is a big wine country. So i was like a big publicity stunt everytime we did it and show that there was fermentation from microorganisms in the air

25:13 But Baishang continued to do further experiments and from those experiments he actually was able to show that it didn't need to come from the air at all, that it could actually come from the plant material itself. And this was a major breakthrough and really told us that it doesn't lend itself to germ theory at all because then we would be saying that disease comes from within us rather than from the outside. So it was a very important experiment But later on, as germ theory progressed nonetheless and it became adopted even though Pasteur is rumored on his deathbed to say that he was wrong about the whole thing. And I think the quote goes something like the germ is nothing, the terrain is everything. That was to Claude Bernard who had some experiment that showed that Pasteur made him suppress until after his death

26:09 What happened is that this other scientist came along robert car and he was a german microbiologist in position. And he developed the common sense set of rules and those rules would say well if you can meet these rules then you show that microorganism causes disease be And it's pretty straightforward you have to show that there is a cluster of symptoms that defines an illness right so like for example, what code nineteen the symptoms would be no the same as the flu or pneumonia some up respiratory symptoms are fever. Perhaps difficulty breathing typical stuff but that one constellation of symptoms

26:50 And then you have to show that you can isolate and purify the infectious agent out of those people with those symptoms, and that in healthy people you would not be able to isolate and purify the same pathogen or microorganism. Then you would take the purified organism that you believe to cause the disease from the people with those symptoms, and put it in a healthy host. You would then cause the same illness in that host And then the final step is that you would then be able to isolate that organism from the sick host that you infected. If you can do all those four steps, you've conclusively proven that a germ causes a disease! What is really astonishing part of this is since those steps were laid out in very common sense way

27:43 There's actually never been any scientific studies that showed those steps are true for any infectious agent, especially viruses. Interesting and you mentioned that the terrain is everything in that quote and I believe that's the alternative model to germ theory is terrain theory? Is that right? Yes absolutely! And I have a really nice metaphor for that was given to me by David Parker Which is this because they had the idea that these germs cause disease before they had the scientific experiments to look at this and One of the findings that they have that they felt supported. This was That when they looked at diseased tissue under a microscope, they saw bacteria Mm-hmm right but let's say that we were observing like those scientists were and We saw a house on fire

28:40 and there were firefighters there who are squirting water at the fire well let's say that we were proponents of this kind of theory and we would then see the firefighters as causing a fire because they happen to be there. And so the scientists you saw the bacteria in disease tissue just assumed that they were causing the disease and didn't investigate other possibilities yeah that makes a lot of sense i mean this is what im hearing more often What the exosome conversation a lot of people are saying what your body recognizes the toxin and then it's yourselves excrete these. Pieces of debris that we call viruses and they're actually kind of sponge like absorbent material that's trying to absorb that talks and then flush it out of the body is that how you see it too am i messing some up

29:36 No no you're absolutely right and i know there's a lot of information to get there but even before viruses were what they call viruses whatever scene under the microscope because these are super tiny particles like on the order of nano meters which is a billionth of a meter, they had to wait for the electron microscope to be invented and at that time it was invented you know they had no ability to look at. Gene sequences or anything like that technology wasn't there And they already thought that there was some small particle and even called it a virus because the word virus means poison or not just agent and the term. What's around as a potential cause of disease long before any viral particle what is visualized under microscope

30:23 What's the order you were thinking they're looking for some small thing under the microscope that causing these diseases that we're not explained by bacteria because it is fine bacteria things like polio. When they found the particle, they said, aha! There's the virus that is causing the disease. And they didn't bother to do all of the experiments to see well what is this particle? What could it be? Let me see let's test some ideas They instead put all their effort on to This is a cause of disease and we're gonna show that that's the case in some way without using Koch postulates because they were unable to satisfy those

31:01 So as time went on, they were identifying these particles as being all these different viral illnesses because they had these microscopes and they could do it. And exosomes weren't discovered as a possible explanation for this until about 30 years ago. I'm not sure exactly how it came about, but i suspect that is was related to the gene sequence That they saw these particles and then they took the genetic material inside of the particles and sequenced it and realized that it matched human genetic material So they must have said well it must come from our own cells if we have our own DNA

31:40 And then this whole field of exosome science, which is sort of a sub-branch of virology it's become or it's intimately related to the study of viruses. Has blossom and like you said there are tons of papers actually comparing viruses to exosomes. But the thing is that they always interpret this evidence from that germ theory perspective so they say well it must be that a virus put its dna mixed with our dna and thats why we see Human DNA in exosomes and viral DNA at the same time and they never think well Is it possible that what they've been looking at the whole time that they thought was viruses from the beginning were actually exosomes? So you are exactly right about where you said so exosomes are our own bodies Defense mechanism, you could consider them part of the immune system. And there have been exosomes shown that have a

32:37 receptors on them for the immune system called MHC or major histocompatibility complex and that's the same receptor that's used for tissue typing like in organ transplants. And part of what these exosomes do is they are capable of gobbling up toxins. There's one excellent study I found where it shows them gobbling up bacterial endotoxins and allowing the cells to survive in the presence of these toxins, which would normally just kill all of the cells. They also are involved in communication and that's thought actually to be the biggest role. So let's say there's a part of your body that gets some kind of toxic exposure

33:19 they would be able to, the cells in that part of your body that is damaged would put out way more exosomes than normal because our cells are always expressing these. They probably just serve as baseline communication but then when there's an infection and we're exposed to ionizing radiation psychological distress or I call it psychological shock. If we have any acute illness practically, some papers just say any disease state our cells are induced to put out a lot more of these things to communicate to the rest of our body what's going on so that they can be prepared and help in removing the toxins or addressing whatever the problem is

34:04 So if you are measuring exosomes in a person who's sick, you're going to find them for sure. Any person who is sick, you're going to find them and if you develop a test that tests the genetic material of an exosome, you're gonna find that test to be positive in almost any illness because that's how our body responds to illness. This is basically what's going on right now with the coronavirus thing and why people should maybe not be as afraid as the news is telling them right? Yeah well absolutely and you know i think there's two ways of looking at this in a one way is easier for most people to grasp. That just look at the numbers of mortality and compare it to other common things like for example, any typical year across the world are about half a million deaths from regular flu that's an average here

34:58 We had eighty thousand deaths from the flu in the united states and two thousand seventeen eighteen season. And right now i believe that the total number of reported covert nineteen death for the entire planet is less than that flu season in the united states only when we make up a pretty small portion of the world's population So that's an important thing to look at because you'll see that if we're facing something, it's not really killing any extra people than usual. Then why would we be taking these extreme measures? To prevent it but on the other end I've started to look at all of the papers where they claim to have discovered this virus and prove that it causes disease and how they develop a test and I'll tell you that

35:46 On a cursory read of the paper you see that all the effort is put into the test. They were just interested in genetic material to make a test for it before they even tried to isolate the virus, which they didn't do and they developed this based on only five patients And they started with seven, but two of them didn't show the same genetic material. So they just discounted them and I'll tell you a really fascinating thing is that they did not include a negative control in this study so everyone who's ever done a scientific experiment knows that you need to have a control for your experiment in order to distinguish what is an effect of whatever you're studying versus what might be a baseline effect

36:36 and you have to be able to tell both. So they would have to, at least seven other patients who were healthy and get their lung fluid and show that they didn't find this genetic material in there but they didn't do that all so if they were gonna let's say apply for a FDA approval I'm saying the FDA has a very low bar okay? That is my starting point But if they're going to apply for FDA approval for diagnostic test They would have to not only have studies with a control group if they only had five patients they were just be left out of the office, i would be told not to waste their time even put in an application so.

37:19 Why is it that with this level of science that wouldn't even be able to apply the FDA were actually doing this test all over the world. And we are telling people that everyone who has a positive test has some new scary viral illness that if they're not careful they're gonna die from and the tests is completely meaningless There was one group who tried to study the false positive rate or that error rate and you can actually calculate that because since they never isolated in purified a virus and show that it cause disease they have no gold standard to compare.

38:00 Select if it were a real illness that was really caused by virus they would have a hundred people they be able to isolate that virus from a hundred people and then give that hundred people the diagnostic test and see how many of them were positive or negative. And i would have also a hundred people who are healthy, and they wouldn't be able to isolate the virus from single one of those people can you see how many people in that group had a positive test and then i could calculate the error rate But it's not possible to do that in this case because isolating the virus just hasn't been done at all. And so you just have to guess and a group out of hong kong tried to estimate it based on giving people a test then waiting certain period time to see if they got sick and then use some mathematical modeling, and they came up with an eighty percent false positive rate

38:53 Right. That means that four out of five people who had a positive test had no illness at all So that is just wildly inaccurate I mean, I can do better with a blindfold and a dart right? That's such an important point because A lot of people are assuming the test is 100% accurate I'm hearing stories of friends brothers co-workers mothers who quote got COVID 19 And we also see these crazy high numbers on TV and I've been trying to explain why i'm not worried about that by laying it out with the three Ts. The first one being testing, which as you said can be up to 80% inaccurate and isn't actually seeing what people think its looking for anyway

39:41 and the second being treatment because these drugs and treatments are harsh usually being used on older already sick people. And if somebody dies who quote had the coronavirus but also got a bunch of these drugs pumped into them in an aggressive treatment protocol from hospital workers in panic mode, and these drugs do have precautions and side effects for older people with high blood pressure in particular And well, there are going to be deaths because of this process but surely they won't be categorized like that. And third is trading one illness for another. Again, citing the Bloomberg article where 99% of Italy's dead had other conditions, lumping in flu and pneumonia deaths, marking COVID as the cause in assumed and presumed cases as the CDC has directed right in their documents even saying quote it is unlikely we will be following up on these records

40:42 So it's like saying just make your life easy and mark it down, wink-wink. And that's what the hospitals do because there is no independent thought or nuance in these situations It's just following orders mainly because doctors and nurses and hospitals are so scared of being sued and so why would you ever stray from the legal cover of saying hey I just did exactly what the CDC directed But, I think those three factors of testing treatment and trading illnesses can pretty much allow the system to create any numbers they want to create. But even with all that said there's still going to be some people sitting there saying well this is all interesting maybe you're making some good points but

41:28 What's actually making people sick wuhan italy new york we hear these huge numbers and can't process that it would all be over nothing. But is there something making people more sick than normal or not if not its really a tough case to make in the face of what people here from the traditional media out there yeah well absolutely you made many good points their end even with the imperfection of the reporting and clearly they're telling us to report any deaths as COVID-19. I mean, the CDC report uses the word suspect so they basically if you have suspicion that it might be COVID 19 You're told to just put that as a cause of death As if its definitive And you've been told that If the person is already dead Don't even do a test on them

42:24 If they haven't been tested just put down covert nineteen is the cause of death so they're really trying to inflate these numbers but if you look closely at. Actually what happened in countries like italy and in wuhan and ubay province, will find is that the people who actually died were already very sick right in italy The government there is doing a good job trying to give more specific information and i heard they're actually going in reviewing all the death certificates and looking at medical records. You see what the real cause of death is because they followed similar strategy but what they said is that fifty percent of people who died had three or more serious illnesses,

43:08 48% had one or two serious illnesses, only a tiny sliver. So this could simply be the fact that if we just said that people who had pneumonia and the flu had COVID-19 instead it would give the appearance that there's a new serious illness But a lot of people die from influenza and pneumonia every year. And everything they're describing about the symptoms and how people die is totally consistent with those deaths so if you simply re-label things, It gives this appearance but it's not actually true and i can't find really any. Evidence that tells me there is any new disease, that's novel in anyway in terms of the degree of mortality or in the clinical presentation. And even dr fauci who you know says one thing to one audience and says another thing to another audience he wrote editorial in the new england journal medicine meant to be read by doctors and scientists

44:10 That he said basically covered nineteen is like the seasonal flu with mortality rate of zero point one percent which is one in one thousand so she's even telling us. Indirectly to this limited audience that there's no real illness to be concerned about, It's just really astonishing because you can simply rely on public officials and public documents from the FDA, the CDC other public health agencies like the New York Health Department. And you can see right from their policies and statements that there is something going on here that is fudging up all of statistics and they're rolling out tests that aren't accurate

44:53 And it's really quite astonishing. But, you know I'm only presenting evidence from scientific papers and official sources here. I am not saying anything that is from a questionable conspiracy theorist type of source because you just don't need to. It is all right there out in the open. You just have to look for it. You have to turn off your TV and go to the real information from the source Well said and this is kind of the perspective of a lot of people i've been listening to lately and, the only thing i can think that seems like a symptom that might be different than the flu or pneumonia is this trend of people having a really difficult time breathing. And maybe liquid in the lungs

45:40 It's some kind of thing that people in my inner circles are hearing on tv and it scared the hell out of them in terms of like yeah well maybe there is a fate worse than death if you have these kinda conditions that people are talking about. I guess i would ask, is that normal symptom of advanced pneumonia or is that something different? Well without having specific case and medical record in front me to look at I can't tell you for any specific person exactly what's going on, but certainly if anyone has access to that information. I would be happy to review that and give you my opinion But what you just described occurs in influenza and regular old pneumonia

46:23 In fact, the whole reason that they do a chest x-ray to diagnose it is they see fluid on the lungs because that's what shows up on the chest X ray. That tells them there's pneumonia and you can have pneumonia from the flu and you can have pneumonia with regular bacterial pneumonia And of course pneumonia results in lots of secretions in the airways because that's your body's way Of trying to get rid of whatever the offending agent is And that blocks the air exchange, so you get shortness of breath. And any hospital ICU doctor or nurse can tell you that half their patients in a medical ICU are there with pneumonia. So they need ventilators. Nothing you described is anything that is atypical in terms of dealing with people with various types of pneumonia but let me say that the people who are generally ill with this have underlying disease

47:19 And i think there's a kind of more important thing going on right now to that is further giving the appearance of more people dying and that's that they have. Close down almost all the hospital beds two people with regular illnesses so in my career you know i've worked lots of different kinds hospitals urban rural areas, and i never seen an empty hospital Much more often i've seen that there's been a bad shortages and people were backed up in emergency departments because there is no capacity for them to be hospitalized but now like i can get calls from doctors and paramedics nurses and other health professionals who are starting to question things because they see with their own eyes that things are not adding up.

48:06 And they're seeing empty hospitals and some of them like there's one particular suburban hospital in a large city that had four hundred and fifty beds. And they close all but thirty of those four hundred fifty bad so less than ten percent, are the beds for regular people who are sick the rest of the hospital was dedicated only to covert nineteen patients but their word none air or maybe only if you So all the people in the community elderly people that people with cancer heart failure kidney disease. What's dementia and alzheimer's who would be going to the hospital, maybe probably dying in a hospital maybe some of them getting better and going back home they don't have access to the hospital now so there is actually just dying at home and for the people living in those neighborhoods they're not used to seeing

49:01 person is come to the neighborhood and pick up dead bodies from their neighbors and a paramedics and emt are not used to going. Do you know what one calls and seeing dead bodies, no normally they would be like young person who has trauma that there helping or that kind of thing where they're just taking people to the hospital And what they're seeing is now people dying at home. So in other words, what I'm saying is that instead of dying in the hospital, people who are ill with serious diseases are dying at home and it gives the appearance to the public as if there are people dying who didn't die last year and they assume that it's from COVID-19

49:44 I think the way that it's been orchestrated to give the appearance of a serious pandemic and a new devil to worry about, that's gonna come and kill you. But actually, the total numbers of mortality according to the CDC are little bit down from last year And there is explanations for that too because people aren't on the roads they're not getting into drunk driving accidents because all the bars are closed So there is reason why less people would be dying this year and that's what the most recent data from the CDC shows. Hmm, very very interesting! And so when it comes to the protocols that we're seeing in response to the coronavirus scare... The social distancing, the closing of businesses, the financial bailout package, the call for everyone to be tested or worse everyone to get a vaccine

50:36 i guess talk to us about your biggest concerns here and how you see this thing advancing if people don't start to see through it and continue to obey a corrupt system out of fear Well if we were gonna cover all my concerns we might need a third hour but you know, as a psychiatrist i think what i'm most qualified to talk about is the psychological effects that this is having on people. So first of all being consumed by fear put a lot of stress on your body it suppresses your immune function Your body doesn't process nutrition it doesn't repair itself the same way when you're living in fear your just focused on survival. And i can certainly take its toll and also has an effect on your ability to be able to interpret and taking new information because really just focused on protection and survival. I'm sorry interrupt but stress and fear do induce exosomes is that right yes absolutely absolutely and

51:38 They can even cause illness i mean there is an interaction between our mind and body and it's one whole thing. And i think most people know that they're much more susceptible to become ill when they are under a lot of emotional stress right this happens all the time when you have a big deadline at work or your, burning the midnight oil in depriving yourself sleep studying where your facing some kind of trouble that you're in, maybe with the IRS or with some criminal matter or going through a divorce and it's contentious. All those situations result in people being more susceptible to getting ill. We've seen people in that state and they look all gray and pasty and their eyes are bloodshot and they're not functioning well

52:25 What the social distancing also is a really big factor because what you have is that people are afraid of each other some people are even. Not hugging their own children for fear of spreading this and imagine the devastating effect that can happen on a child but there parent does not want to give them affection, I walked down the street with my children and when someone's coming the other way they look down across the street. It's like there is a name that are afraid i know it's wrong but so much in fear that they do it, add the masks i think the masks are really the worst possible thing you know we have something like over a hundred different muscles in our face in order to make endless expressions and this is one of the main ways that we communicate with each other

53:16 You know most of our communication really is without words and when you cover your face with a mask then you're hiding that from other people you can't relate to other people in the same way. Do you have to rely only on language and no think about like who wears masks like that right it's bandits criminals hide their identity And so it seems to me like its created an environment where everybody is in fear and everybody is. Looking to take advantage of the other person in some kind of criminal way, and i certainly am concerned that if the access to food and other supplies and money because you know so many people have zero income right now running out of funds that this mentality is gonna lead to violence and looting

54:09 i mean we certainly can't sustain this type of thing in the long term right right that is concerning and great advice and this has been really eye opening, of course to some people the things that we've talked about will sound a little extreme or. It's difficult to kinda unravel such a giant machine and say that it's all wrong and this interview is right you know i mean it just a lot to go against n again, you're not the only one saying these things there's a long history of people on the outside saying hey we gotta take a serious look at the germ theory and where medical system operates. I guess as were wrapping this thing up i would ask u if

54:53 There are maybe some books or papers out there that you consider the gold standard and making this case if we have people out there who just still aren't convinced and really wanna dig into the right data to further the case other certain authors medical professionals in books you'd recommend. Yeah absolutely and let me reiterate your point because i don't want the people to get the impression that. I'm sitting up here you know talking down and saying that i have all the answers, i want people to go in look at this information for themselves i think we are actually a responsibility to learn about these things into question mainstream paradigm

55:36 And we can just start off simply saying, well what's the proof for this? And there is the first book I'm going to recommend which is really excellent and it's quite comprehensive. It's by David Parker and Dawn Lester and its called What Really Makes You Ill. They approached right from that perspective which why have so much respect for them they said well We want to accept what mainstream medicine says about the cause of disease So we're gonna actually find the scientific evidence that supports that where the ideas came from and we're going to evaluate that. And they went looking for the scientific proof for germ theory, you know in all the other causes of disease that were told and what they found is quite astonishing and you can certainly

56:22 Read about their research and make your own judgment about how you feel about things but this is definitely not the time to sit idly by and trust in all of the beliefs that you have all your life it's important to challenge things do some of your own research so let me get some other examples if u want to learn About pasteur and Baysham. There's a book by that title I think it's called pastor in Baysham by Ethel Hume That's an excellent description both historical and scientific of what went on in the beginning of germ theory? I would definitely recommend Forrest Moretti's books which talk about vaccines and the role of aluminum and other metals Especially a book called crooked, I think is called crooked because of man-made illness

57:12 And that is a serious piece of scholarship. I definitely recommend Nancy Turner Banks, she has a book on AIDS, I think it's called AIDS Diamonds and Opium? Something like that, its easy to find. Perhaps Eustace Mullins Murder by Injection that talks about the Exner report and how Rockefeller and AMA kind of took over medicine to make it a petrochemical business. So yeah, lots of books and I have a big stack to read you know? I wasn't really that interested in studying viruses before this happened then i can't wait for the day when I can get back to other topics. You and me both! But this is where I'm at right now and it's the most important thing

57:59 Right on yes i agree with you and i would throw in a couple other ones i've been looking at recently goodbye germ theory ending the century of medical fraud by doctor william tree being, Virus mania how the medical industry continually and vance epidemics making billion dollar profits at our expense pretty on the nose. Those are two that have four point five star ratings on amazon for whatever that's worth but there are books out there guys you know this isn't just a few rogue, uneducated people out there. This is a lot of people who are outside of that money-making machine that are saying, hey something isn't right here so no shortage of resources I guess i just would reiterate that for people

58:44 Yeah, and Greg I was about to say virus mania actually. I'm about halfway into that book right now and it is excellent research and i thought of one more that a lot of people have asked about because its the book where those experiments with contagion with the Spanish flu are described and thats called The Invisible Rainbow by Arthur Furstenberg Yes yes another one I have been reading lately and its crazy to look at the history Electricity and seeing how it was used in the medical space and some really strange ways but it all works to drive home the fact that we have an electrical component to our bodies and it has a fax even if we don't see at much in the devices used today is not even true, e k g's e g's it is use today but not in the way that you should be which was quite crazy when you start reading that book. Absolutely

59:38 Right on damn well this is been so much fun i'm glad we could fit in all this information i'm really impressed with your knowledge level on the stuff i hope. These sorts of interviews are damaging to your ability to do the work that you do but i'm very thankful please let's let people know how to follow up on your work or youtube channel all that good stuff that would like to leave him with Yes, thank you so much. So I would definitely encourage people to check out my YouTube channel and on there There's a scientific presentation about the virus exosome issue It's the one called special report and I hope to follow that up with a subsequent Presentation in the next week and the channels called medicamentum Authentica That's MED ICA MEN TUM and authentic like authentic with an A

1:00:29 And then I am just about to launch my website. I think it will be online by the time this show comes on the air and that's AndrewKaufmanMD.com, Andrew K-A-U F with an frank M-A-N MD like medical doctor dot com And i do offer a natural healing consultation service and I certainly would like to hear from people who have questions or who have research that they'd like to contribute to my work Very cool. Well, good luck on that website and thanks for your time! It's really been a lifelong dream to talk to Andy Kaufman so I'm glad i could do that today. I'm sure you've heard it all over the years. Oh yes thank you very much Keep fighting the good fight man and take care out there Alright you too Greg, its been a pleasure

1:01:21 Good times, Hireside Chatters. Good times indeed! Dr Andy Kaufman... great guest and I'm very thankful for his time and humbled by him already being aware of and being a listener of this show that's always very cool for me when i reach out to try to nab an interview and they're right back excited about it because they already know the show The last show with John Klyzik School World Order was like that too Makes me almost proud of myself. Almost! But as for the material Dr. Kaufman got into, I will say that I have sort of changed my tune a little bit week by week when it comes to this whole thing because when i had Don Lester and David Parker on THC, I thought doubting germ theory was a bit more extreme than it actually is

1:02:12 But I got some great book resources from that episode and i followed up on them. And funny enough through Amazon suggestions, I learned there are a lot of these books! Dr Kauffman gave us several other resources in this interview too and they make similar points Germ theory is only a couple hundred years old. It's largely based on the work of Louis Pasteur, who recanted germ theory on his deathbed Similarly to how we hear that Einstein later in life questioned his own work and the absence of an ether Yet these people's work is still propelled to being a major unquestionable driver of the science anyway

1:02:54 And I've also been following the work of another doctor lately, Dr. Thomas Cohen He's not looking for publicity so he won't actually do an interview with me. I have asked twice and I'm going to keep trying! And it is something that both lament and respect at the same time But he repeatedly points out when it comes to this idea that viruses are not these invisible invaders they're made out to be This is actually in line with the leading virologist today They've given an exosome talk at the National Institute of Health recently. It's dense and dry, and not for regular people like me but they are having the conversation it's not fringe! And I'm sure there is a lot of complexity to it but in the same way your body as a whole pushes out waste it doesn't want your cells seem to do this too on a smaller scale

1:03:46 And the symptoms of an illness seem to be the nonverbal signal to other life forms in your proximity that there's a danger or toxin around. It's communicating that something isn't right! What is really crazy to me, is these symptoms of being sick we think as contagious from a germ actually are triggered by seeing someone exhibiting symptoms of a toxin because again it's a warning signal and your biology wants to communicate the signal further than the area exposed of the actual toxin. Just like Dr. Kaufman said today about yawning and certain biological functions that are contagious

1:04:29 And this is also exactly what plants do. So you know the smell of cut grass that everyone seems to like? That's a chemical released as a defense and a warning that, hey some shits going down! And it's not that other blades of grass or plants can move but they do communicate that danger and why wouldn't we have the same mechanisms So when we talk about things like quote boosting the immune system it's actually a bad way of saying what we really want to say because your immune system is what expels these toxins through snot or sneezing or coughing or sweat and fevers. Autoimmune disease right? Immune system attacking the body, or a body full of toxins that it can't get rid of

1:05:16 typically damaged by something environmental put in by some shitty corporation. But either way, if you want health You don't want to boost your immune system. You want to get high quality structured water into your cells That's health It should be uncoupled from language about the immune system And these are just my current understandings and I've been digesting a lot of material on this I'm pretty fatigued by it actually at this point But it's just icing on the conspiracy cake that I have no fear of catching a random virus. And, of course as a result, I see vaccines as complete trash science and that's why i think guys like Bill Gates and Fauci can actually sleep at night because they probably already know this and think well what's the harm in scaring everyone and making 300 billion dollars on vaccines when we know they're not in any real danger?

1:06:16 you know, ignoring the damage that vaccines actually cause. I think they justify all this as well people are just caught up in the wrong paradigm so doing this isn't causing as much harm as it would if they released some actual bioweapon or virus that they couldn't really contain and do you remember the stories of holistic doctor deaths a few years ago? Funny how there's less experts around today who would know that this paradigm should be challenged And if you want to have a conversation about the magical worldview and that consciousness drives reality, go back and watch the 2012 Olympic Opening Ceremony. Do you remember us talking about this? It's all in a medical context—kids in wall-to-wall hospital beds under the watchful eye of pyramids around the outside edge

1:07:09 You might remember but what we didn't know then that we now know is that the pattern. Ends up flexing into the exact cartoon representation were seeing of covert nineteen on the news i mean the twenty twelve olympic ceremonies are about a pandemic and funny that was twenty twelve and then, We talked to Ross Ben earlier who made the point that indigenous calendars, Ethiopian calendars have this year being 2012. Just weird! It's also probably part of why Chris Knowles said last year that he was seeing a lot of virus symbolism in the pop culture and expected something like this to come

1:07:52 Maybe this is what ritual does. It either subconsciously manipulates us to manifest this reality or it just provides that extra oomph when they do roll out something like this Anyway, I'm getting way off topic but i can't really talk to friends about this stuff my special lady is sort of sick of hearing about it too and there's nowhere for the thoughts to go but right here And I'm sure many of you guys are feeling the same way. There's just no outlet, and this is not like 9-11 where it's a one and done event You want to think 9-11 was terrorists? Go ahead It doesn't change anyone's behavior really but this makes us feel like we're in the goddamn Twilight Zone

1:08:36 I went to Target one day and saw maybe 20% of people in masks. I went back two days later, and it's 90% of people in masks and several people mean mugging me for not having one! I don't like being pressured into something like this but also don't want any trouble. I quit jiu-jitsu classes way too early to invite trouble into my life but just continue to be surprised by the step changes that thing has taken Another example right now as we speak the phrase two to three percent is trending on twitter because doctor ross said something about two to three, present of the population. Dying would be worth it open up the economy again i don't really know what he said but something in there

1:09:22 But you'll see a lot of comments that say, imagine being such a heartless asshole that you think losing only 2.3% of children to coronavirus deaths is an acceptable number to sacrifice at the altar of the economy? How much are your kids worth Dr. Oz? But where are these fucking people when we exploit the third world for half of the bullshit that we have in the west? Where are these fucking people when you look at numbers like 1 in 50 kids getting autism today or the idea that vaccines hurt just a small amount of people but it's for the greater good. Those deaths your willing to accept so that people can be injected with a buncha bullshit I mean, look almost everything we enjoy has a little blood on it somewhere

1:10:09 Unfortunately, that's the system that was built around us. But it's really fucking convenient to pretend you care about deaths in the margins when the goddamn government prompts you to pretend to care! It's just really frustrating, y'know? These aren't these people's own thoughts. It's someone on the opposition side saying something so they have to counterpoint and they do this moral outrage shit And again not even sure there is a virus one can catch and die from Are there deaths? Yes. But when you combine the faulty testing, the protocols in hospitals which are killing people and we didn't even talk about the ventilators yet did you know that 80% of people in this situation that are put on ventilators are dying and that's a lot more than typically die with ventilator use And did you realize that you have to be put into a coma to be put on a ventilator

1:11:05 I guess i just didn't think about it. I was expecting them to be kind of like oxygen you think you're giving people oxygen but no these people are unconscious they're put into a coma imagine walking into a hospital with flu-like symptoms that clearly suck but would go away in a week, but instead the doctor inadvertently puts you down like a trigger happy veterinarian A machine moves your chest up and down for a while but you never wake up That's happening people look into it i just recorded an interview about it but I wasn't aware of it at the time that I recorded this interview with Dr. Kaufman, but it's coming and then the lumping in of other flu and pneumonia deaths as COVID deaths that's just a lot of data manipulation And even my special lady you know she hears me say these things that maybe there's no virus and she thinks that's a little extreme At first as a person should as I did actually at first

1:12:04 But then she says to me this morning over coffee, you know it is pretty weird. We only have 23000 cases in the state of California a state of 40 million people we have 23000 cases and then when you look at the official stats they say basically 800 people recovered and eight hundred dead wait a second you said twenty three thousand cases so is that eight hundred recovered Is it 20,000 that aren't showing symptoms? Don't you kind of mean 800 recovered and 20,000 without a problem other than a positive test. And still...800 dead in a state of 40 million!

1:12:47 This system does not care about people dying they go to war over oil they. Poison crops with glyphosate they don't give a fuck but it's convenient to pretend they do so we have all these god damn measures enacted over, not that much of a problem if the problem at all Because I think those three T's that i keep bringing up can actually account for 23,000 cases and 800 deaths in this state. How many of those 800 people were on a ventilator? That is the new question I have! But how many of them are over 80? And how many had other conditions? In fact it makes me think that it IS all data manipulation because even the official numbers if you really think about them don't seem that bad If there was really a virus out there you'd think they would get better results

1:13:42 So I'm only trying to say that i didn't come to these perspectives quickly. I considered this too extreme for a while, and you can hear it in my voice if you go back and listen to Don & David. And always want to be cautious with something so serious! I don't wanna give bad information to you guys even though everyone is responsible for themselves always but I'm pretty on board now. I've done the research have come out the other side That's why I've done several other podcast interviews lately. I've gone on other shows and i'm typically kind of inclined to not do that a whole lot because I just feel like I'm a generalist who doesn't have a lot of expertise, but I feel like I am starting to really know my shit on this kind of or at least more so than usual So if you got other podcasts out there that you think I should go on to talk about these very things let them know because I'm ready! I'm doing the rounds

1:14:39 But I guess that's enough ranting. I'm just so thankful to people like Dr. Kaufman for showing me the way, of course todays show is hugely valuable and i didn't expect us to go into schizophrenia like we did up front But I also found that really interesting and anyone who's been listening to the higher side chats for a while would know that i have a personal interest in learning more about schizophrenia and how it could be overcome without turning a person into a numb zombie with brain pills. I won't get into it other than to say you probably know why I was like actually yeah let's talk about this, I want to get this down, I want to understand this

1:15:22 But we took that detour and unfortunately that means a lot of the great conversation about coven nineteen and viruses in general did get pushed to the second hour was my plan but it is what happened. And i also get kind of sick apologizing for stuff like that because my work just can't be free and open, everyone always this just not how our world works But the Plus show today does contain a lot of great stuff. Aluminum in vaccines and the effects on antibodies, nanometals found in vaccines and offices raided recently—that is pretty compelling—the 5G and EMF data in relation to COVID-19... And Dr. Kaufman brought up a classified CIA document that confirms EMF damage in my studies from the 70s!

1:16:11 We talked about the electron microscope versus the Reif microscope. That was the first thing I wanted to talk about, but it's in The Plus Show now It's very unique and interesting we talked about alternatives to quote-unquote contagiousness and detoxification techniques for staying healthy in a terrain theory paradigm Already got my trace minerals in the mail And doing the eyedropper in my water every day now that's why I'm so fired up You think this is coffee, it's not. It's these damn trace minerals! I'm a new man! But anyway...I think this show and a lot of the shows i do are worth your eight dollars a month but I'm gonna say that every time. It's just that the stakes for this kind of information have changed

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1:17:53 It's enough time to at least do the two things I just mentioned and download a lot more. But hopefully you stick around either way, sign up now with the coupon code Corona and you can have seven days in this system at no charge. Make sure you look at the frequently asked questions page because there is really good tips for getting the plus feed on to the podcast apps that you typically use to listen It just sucks because I do want people to hear every show. I'm proud of them and the content that's in The Second Hour, especially when it's needed but i can't just put out full episodes for free! I did it once recently with David Crowe because I did think that was the first time we really covered this and it was important

1:18:41 But this is still my livelihood so I want to help but i also want to help myself and it's a tough thing to balance sometimes because a lot of people are comfortable with take, take, take. And I'd never be able to give them something that they think is worth cold hard cash no matter what I do and that is just unfortunate because clearly they think there's value in this show or they wouldn't even spend their time on it But it is what it is. I just hope that some people will stick around once they've gotten a free ticket to enter the ride, even ever so briefly. But it also means I really have to thank the people who have put me in this position and made this possible! The people who facilitate that exchange way before I had to beg this much. You guys are awesome!

1:19:32 And I take my job very seriously. It is my job, i built it myself and happy with that but do not phone these interviews in contrary to what you might feel about some of them that is my best effort I promise and I continue to spend the money that you give me on making a better system and tweaking things for better usability so hope you appreciate me trying to improve things even when I sometimes set us back up there but it is a process and I just want you to know, Uplus members are just the best. I have so much appreciation for you and big thanks to our guest today too Dr. Kaufman really killed it So much to think about but follow up with his work and stay safe and calm out there as best You can i've done my part your move covid criminals vaccine pushers and technocratic control mongers Your fucking moves

1:20:33 This is important, hear what I said. I'm trying to tell you it's not paranoia Not in my head It's just the hard truth Knocked on your door while I still can To ask you cause I know your head is still in the sand Don't be sheep to your slaughter for the rest of your life Oppressed, oppressed but you're getting woke You say you don't want to be stressed until the day you die Tough luck my friend Did ya get the memo? Can't you see that we're so screwed? Don't you know where are- can't you just admit We're screwed I'm gonna tell you this anyway It's a scary dark world Scary every day

1:21:33 be okay. Can't you see that we're sick? You sit and wish but we don't have a choice It seems we're stuck here, but you can find nose to drown out the noise Now use that alternate end up your magic game And listen to THC you know Go with the entities if you ever see

1:22:10 Don't be sheep to your slaughter for the rest of your life Oppressed, oppressed but you're getting woke You say you don't want to be stressed until the day you die Tough luck my friend Did ya get the memo? Can't you see that we're so screwed? Don't you know we are kung fu? Can't you just admit we're screwed I'm gonna tell you this anyway It's a scary dark world I'm scared of what you say Can't you see that we're sick? Don't be sheep to your slaughter for the rest of your life Oppressed, oppressed but you're getting woke You say you don't want to be stressed until the day you die Tough luck my friend Did you get the memo?

1:23:30 Can't you see that we're so screwed? Don't you know we're our Kung Fu?