Donald Jeffries | Survival Of The Richest, Huey Long, & Solution Suppression

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01:56 Alright, Hireside Chatters. We know making it in this world is like swimming against a river current determined to sweep us away into obscurity... but for the elite class it's a lush grotto of mingling and networking and of course a well-built dam to keep you downstream Unfortunately, the system just wasn't set up for us. Especially when you play things by the book and why should you when the richest among us have tilted every aspect of The Big Machine in their favor and insulated themselves against the sullied masses every step of the way? From offering the elite liens a completely different education system than the obedient worker-maker plan the rest of us are on, to tax loops and advantages that only affect the top rungs of the ladder, privileged positions in seats of high paying but arbitrary board seats and even simple things like better deals on interest rates insurance and the rest of it.

02:46 it. If you thought things were fair, then you must have eaten the carrot they've dangled over the treadmill to the middle because our invite to the cocktail party at the end of the world is forever lost in the mail." Well these are themes from the latest book by today's guest Donald Jeffries entitled Survival Of The Richest How The Corruption Of The Marketplace And The Disparity Of Wealth Created The Greatest Conspiracy Of All And if you're unfamiliar with Donald's work, he is also the author of a popular novel called The Unreals and also wrote a great conspiratorial tome called Hidden History an expose on modern crimes, conspiracies, and cover-ups in American politics. His blog is called Keeping It Unreal and has been a frequent guest host of Coast To Coast AM as well

03:28 A true wealth gap warrior, advocate of economic equality and chronicler of many conspiracies along the way. Donald my man welcome to The Higher Side how the hell are you? Alright thanks for having me Greg You got it! Thanks for being here I think you wrote a great book If anyone is in denial about the entire system being skewed for the nefarious few, they won't be when they're done with survival of the richest because you make a pretty clear case that even from the time you're born, you just don't have the same opportunities no matter how hard you work. But you have to be pretty dense to still be drinking the fair chance-for-all Kool Aid because the elite tilting the scales in their favor is like the main paradigm of history right?

04:11 Exactly i mean this battle has been going on for most of human history and i think that's why in america we really ought to pay attention to this even more so than the rest of the world because we brag a lot and certainly from our founding, we talked about building with thomas jefferson called meritocracy. because we broke away from the king of england and the queen of anglo although unfortunately over 200 years later here, see too many americans still worshiping these royal parasites which still exist the ultimate one percenters who have absolutely no reason for being do absolutely nothing to earn this unbelievable wealth don't have to do anything but just kind of existed walk along in. Maybe dane to meet the peasants here there and acknowledge their presence that's it. And you know we fought a war for independence from that

04:55 And we wanted to have a meritocracy and for a long time, to much better degree than we see now in the last 30 years especially in the post-war era. You know I'm a baby boomer, I was born in 56 so I grew up It's not just saying the good old days, but it was the best time economically for America. Maybe the only time it has been really strong and a lot of that was due to post-war era with defense contractors in military industrial complex bad things but they did have an offshoot building tremendously stronger economy so for long time any job that anyone had paid at least enough for someone to at very least rent their own apartment there

05:34 There was no such thing as not being able to live on your own. If you worked, jobs were much easier to get so that's part of the focus in this book because again the class war has been waged at varying degrees for a long time and it is still being waged all over the world I think The latest statistic is that the worlds richest 8 individuals or 8 families have more wealth than the bottom half of the world So people just oughta think about that and take that into consideration i believe bill gates and warren buffett alone the determine if yours back had more wealth than forty percent of americans to individual so. Is that what we want in america i don't maybe too many people do want that but i think thats clearly the giant elephant in the room and thats why I wanted to write this book. Yes it's an ever increasing squeeze that seems to be getting worse though its a long tradition for the top to be screwing the bottom, when you look at things today where are you really see the line between reality of our economic situation like the narrative regular folks are sold?

06:35 Well i think what most of us can sell in terms of consuming news were consuming entertainment the culture. The structure as it is what's left to the establishment incredibly corrupt establishment that we have a read about other books but when we consume this, Everyone that's disseminating that reality that information weather it's the politicians talking heads celebrities. The corporate leaders they are all one percenters to varying degrees of another even your local newscasters probably making definitely making six figures, so there in the one person i think one person starts at two hundred fifty thousand or something but

07:15 At the very least they're in the top twenty percent so their problems are not the problems of the bottom half of this country that one of my main talking points. It's been all over the media have a ball workers in america those lucky enough to have jobs fifty percent about fifty percent less than twenty seven thousand dollars here, Half the country, that's not enough to live today and anywhere in this country to live on your own independently anywhere. I mean maybe places in Mississippi and Arkansas you might be able to eke out a small apartment in probably a crime-ridden neighborhood, I don't know but certainly most places of the country can so that's half the country and the reason why I talk too much about immigration is because with every wave of immigration it comes in It's almost all coming legally or illegally from the poorest parts even poorer parts of the world

08:01 Then are poorest parts when you have people coming from mexico that are coming from desperate circumstances there and get the very bottom of that bottom fifty percent so what's happening. We're producing more and more desperately poor people, so it's broadening that 50%. So if we don't do anything about immigration in another decade or two, that may go up to 75%, where 75% of the country is making ridiculous weights where they can't live on their own anywhere. No one talks about that, about the impact of bringing more and more poor people... There are lots of issues like that but that's just one example. But the public is consuming this, I'm doing okay.

08:41 There's a twenty percent that are doing okay i'm not gonna start anytime or go homeless but. What i'm consuming that i am aware that i'm looking at their producing that for people like me or people who are doing better than they, add bottom fifty percent i guess they watch it like the use to watch the lifestyle rich and famous television show in dream about something better but its not there reality and thats just what i'm trying to say is that whats being produced for us and went to the world into our own citizens is not a reality for half the country at least because they are living in, I think one out of 20% of households in America have no one working. We're just not a first world economy anymore with those kind of statistics. Yeah, I mean...I got no problem with people being successful but it's just the alteration of the game that tilting up the scales to kind of like

09:33 Closing the ladder off to the bottom rungs that really chaps my ass especially when you're still sold the bill of goods it's like i just work hard your eventually gonna get there that's why always upset, the midlife crisis is when you spent half your life you can't get back in your like shit i'm not going anywhere i'm never gonna get up there at the top. Right, exactly. You're right people are sold that bill of goods and while we've always had these kind of myths you know when I was a little boy everyone was told anybody any boy well they're certainly still not a girl that's grown up to be president but any boy can grow up to the President United States but you know you look into the backgrounds of all the presidents in the United States and see none of them came from poverty even the ones who claimed it Abraham Lincoln's father was the largest landowner in his county

10:21 Harry truman was a delegate to the democratic national convention teenager you don't get to be a delegate at that age without having some kind of connection so nobody really comes from poverty. To go to that point show it was a myth and the ratio alger stories of rags to riches were very popular late eighteen hundred nineteen hundreds, where largely mythical but there are still possibility people like thomas edison henry ford didn't come from great circumstances and they were able to obviously achieve great things but it's very hard for a thomas edison henry four type now, come along because you need capital you need money to do virtually anything that's another focus of the book is how. I have any money to begin with that way i don't trump friends

11:09 Can be perhaps is ignorant as he sounds we don't know if you really is but, he can do that way but by virtue of being born a multi millionaire. He can become a billionaire now if you been borne the sun. Construction worker and alcoholic construction worker are living with a single mother it would matter there's no way in the world he could ever afford to buy the casino said made him his fortune Because he had that capital and i'm just not meaning to pick on just him but thats what you found out i looked in the backgrounds of so many celebrities from all backgrounds actually wrote a chapter was a couple chapters were cut out of the book. For size requirements but readers can go to my blog and find that chapter relations on celebrity since i went into the background actors musicians corporate leaders,

12:02 and show that virtually all of them can i mean all of them came from at least upper middle class very stable backgrounds most of the mail came from one percent to send your order already rich so. Can rags riches stories are mythical because it is structured america today if you're born wealthy, it's almost impossibly not to die wealthy and to leave wealth for your children if you're born poor unless you're an athlete Perhaps maybe an entertainer to some degree especially in the black community possibly you may be able to become wealthy but it's a very small chance but for the rest of us if your born poor and stay poor.

12:45 And you mentioned trump another thing that comes up in the book a lot is just the general theme of failing up. That the kind of mistakes these people at the top are allowed to make and keep their jobs or just get a new job is insane compared to, you forty fifty i think i've seen this hundred million where they give these two lots of times most the time they give them to c.o.'s who have run the company in the ground lost a company money done a bad job anyone standards, hey pay them to go away now all of us would love to fail like that most of us are regular jobs if we screw up and violate some petty policy or if you live in an at will state i live in it well our right-to-work state one of the biggest jokes about right to work means right to fire for no reason

13:48 They can literally they don't like your look one day and fire you. I have to have a reason and the vast majority workers when they get fired or laid off, they may get a very modest severance package if their late are very much but if there's fired or any times that laid off there would be lucky to get a couple weeks back again that's the vast majority of our that's how the system works so of course, unemployment for people like that is an entirely different situation than an executive that is already probably has at least six figures saved up where. The average american i seen a latest statistic but i think last time i looked it was i think about seventy seven percent americans didn't have five hundred dollars in savings or something like that something unbelievable now that's the reality most people just imagine someone and that seventy percent group gets fired

14:37 One day and so you're devastated if you own your home it's gonna be for close on because of this job market. You're not gonna find a job i don't care you know donald trump touting the same statistics that he, very accurately called out for their phone since the nineteen nineties when they change the stats to make the economic picture rosier all the time. They no longer count the real unemployment rate now that report of a public only those people who are presently receiving unemployment benefits and trump pointed that out one of many great things he said during his campaign now he's bragging about the same funny statistics saying that unemployed it's going down which is ridiculous anybody who stays at job market in the last few years

15:18 Understand exactly how hard it is for the average person to get a job that you have to go through and competition where u i have two hundred people, reply what is really are low paid job with no future at all to even those jobs are hard to get but if your top. Twenty percent specially the top one percent if you get laid off you can get a good severance package so you're not gonna feel That same stress the same pressure to instantly have to go get a job instead you can kinda and u rd have because she made more to begin with again money begets money, you already have probably a good deal of savings. So every advantages built their talk about that constantly in the back where is your old expression that need money to make money let's just like rich get richer and poor get poor some of those all chestnuts are very accurate

16:11 Yeah, they really are. And so my idea for structuring this show is to go through the advantages chronologically in an upper clusters life versus the rest of us, but we got to talking and pretty much covered the first stage which is that these advantages start before you're even born. As much as wealth is multi-generational and as she said, you've gotta have money to make money because the system is set up for large sums of wealth to generate more well all on its own So once you're in the club, it's pretty hard to actually lose. And everyone starting place is never going to be absolutely equal but this is really on a different level. Exactly! Anybody that will sit there and try to tell me that a child born in desperate circumstances in Appalachia or in the wrong parts of Chicago at a trailer park in Arkansas

17:01 There's almost certainly going to be alcoholism and or drug abuse in that house, almost guaranteed. And again why is that? Because poverty begets that they want to try to drown the reality of their awful set of circumstances so of course you drink I mean the poor have been doing that forever The poor white trash may be doing meth and the blacks maybe doing crack or whatever You're doing that to try to drown out How does your circumstances are looking at all the run down neighborhoods a crime around you that you're born into that so even if you somehow, are lucky enough in most of those times the dad if he's known who it is isn't life you gonna be lucky to have any kind of mail roll model round usually not gonna get good mail might be the uncle just got out of prison or something.

17:51 And there's certainly not gonna be support so if you're in that circumstances and why you look at entertainers and stuff say i want to be an actor something well you're not going to be able. Those families can't afford acting lessons or tennis lessons are golf lessons are piano lesson anything like that nurture children, And can make it easier the only way you can reach out for that golden ring that you know one in a million chance that you might be able to make it in one of these worlds and lots people wanna make it into show business or sports whatever but, if u look at that same child is born to a bank president.

18:26 Is bill gates was his father was the president plan paranoid use born to some very special middle class not a middle class i grew up in the lower it wasn't like that, present of planned parents father was one of these grandfathers with the bank president. His mother sat on boards directors and banks big companies back in nineteen fifties mothers were baking cookies But that's sold to us that someone like bill gates you can become the world's richest man he was just a middle class person like you know he wasn't. Is how you define middle class i was reading this morning at republicans are now trying to sell it that four hundred fifty thousand dollars a year is a little class well if foreign fifty thousand dollars years in middle class then what does household but make sixty thousand dollars here,

19:09 That's a world of difference it's not maybe as big is between sixty thousand and forty billion. What is well be for all intents and purposes so but no one talks about that instead obviously anyone born in those kinds of middle class households where. Successes are even established tonight talk to the book about how lotsa these, sons and daughters of the one percenters can even get into college must like we see athletes get into institutions that they're not academically qualified for but they get into sports will you have the people at the george w bushes does anyone really think he qualified academically to be in yale.

19:47 No, but he had that bush tradition. His father was a politician already and his grandfather had been a long time United States senator so... And most of these families I trace a lot of them back the bushes and lots and lots of these people go back to the Mayflower That's where we tend to look at okay where our elite originally came into the country? Well you look at these families that are out there whether it is show business or the corporate world and you'll find a whole lot of are descendants of the mayflower that's really interesting i know there largely related to each other or at least network through all these secret fraternities but to go back to the mayflower is really interesting too, yeah it is and i believe most examples are in a deleted chapter on relations which people can find my blog but you just wouldn't believe it i mean its astounding it surprised even me because i expected to find especially. Lots of the actresses the attractive actresses i thought

20:41 Well, you know they were just casting couch and obviously that's how they achieve their fame. That had something to do with it but even most of them came from wealthy backgrounds so it's astonishing and It kind of disillusioned you when you read because you think wow is there any hope for people? But its so rare to see somebody break through that and obviously there are exceptions here or there And when they do happen like we've all heard lots about Jim Carrey very talented guy how he was living in a car with his family they were homeless when you see me or something so. You have people like that and the old days you had people like john crawford barbara stanwick great actress came from desperate poverty but,

21:19 Even most ones back then i get lots of examples came from great wealth even back then so you can really is a hollywood. And obviously anybody i haven't found the single executive somebody that's high profile cdl if you look in their backgrounds just a fact to go to harvard or yale one of these colleges, you have to have wealth begin with me even if u win a partial scholarship or something tuition fees are so incredibly out of reach Even middle class families again you have to be wealthy even go there and if you can put an ivy league school in your resume. That makes all the difference in the world that's another stand i quote the book is it something like three percent of the students at what are considered the top hundred forty six colleges generally those are the colleges that make

22:06 The difference again college degrees are not all equal you get a degree from harvard or yale or something that's worth hundred times what any degrees were from your state university. So those schools are late and only three percent of the students come from the bottom quarter income wise to this college is a new can bet that almost all that three percent. Are athletes there playing for their sports teams aren't even academically qualified you're being used as athlete so people keep that in mind When they wonder about the upward mobility it just add this to six all throughout the book and a kind of running in my mind sometimes but. They all tell the same story that good colleges are for people who already have money almost all the time. And is weird because that athlete aspect is kinda like,

22:57 a modern coliseum gladiator situation of just put them in the middle and they're making so much money off sports is just like we don't really care about these people let him fight each other you know quote unquote, you can be too violent these days but it's basically throwing them in there to exhaust themselves while you make so much money off their backs and throw me few shackles for their trouble not even in college of course you don't get anything for playing there even though your generating millions. Exactly and that's exactly what is now lots of us would like to be exploited like they're being exploited because you know they are getting lots of beautiful women throwing themselves at him there getting perks. Lots of stuff under the table cars and gifts which

23:38 Once in a while, they get caught the alumni and that's another different story. The NCAA is corrupt to the core there. We know that but you're right and I think if we tried to reform that, I think the most sensible way would be just stop claiming that most of these athletes are students and just hire them and pay them some salary like minor league football or basketball players. That's what this solution should be and maybe the university can sponsor the teams It's just like everything else in america no one wants to really admit the extent of the corruption so we can turn the other way and play this game and have a situation that we have.

24:16 And with sports on the pro level at least stop using taxpayer money to pay for these rich guys stupid stadiums and then have the citizens get charged ticket prices on top of that and get gouged at every corner. It's a mess but you know, The book is just so full of these ridiculous sums of money being thrown around for pretty much nothing at the elite level and many of the small scams and schemes along the way but On the subject of schools, you talk about this perk where someone who is the president of a major university might buy a multi-million dollar home and take out a loan from the university at extra low or sometimes no interest because oh well you gotta live close to where you work. Well no shit! Everybody has to live close to where they work but

25:02 You know even the advantage on the loan terms is just another thing that is not open to most of us. We just get the crippling debt that you can never escape from the college system. Yeah! i'm sure the average college student that has a student loan debt which i think the average student loan debt is thirty two thousand dollars last time i looked at was, what's your email and it looks like a car payment for pretty good car more expensive than most of us would drive to be carrying around like that and something needs to be done to student loan debt is now the biggest debt we have its superseded credit card. consider how much credit card debt that is saying something unlike every other kind of data if you declare bankruptcy which is another part of the red so i don't trump can declare seven times or something and brag about it because its a tool. For the wealthy for one percent when they declare bankruptcy do it as a business and it actually works with them

25:57 actually makes them more money it's not a negative mark again but an individual that declares chapter seven bankruptcy or whatever is ironically under the great liberal obama presidency, he actually stiffen that up to make it harder for average people to declare bankruptcy. Again in our twisted perspective of the one percent they actually sold this bill of goods to you know these people are exploiting her taking advantage of bankruptcy Not the one percenters of course they still have to do with the average riffraff who's. You have to be in desperate circumstances declare bankruptcy and there used to be some advantages to it was only recourse people had at some point, what is a huge disadvantage where it kills your credit for about a decade. About ten years you couldn't get any other kind of laws because that stood out like a huge black mark bankruptcy wow

26:47 What does it actually works their advantage but when the average person doesn't it destroys your last that's just one example of how. One particular law works one way for the very wealthy and work in an entirely different way for the rest of us Oh yeah i've seen expose on credit card companies that talk about the predatory practices and the fact that now things have kind of switch to where they actually, have really low credit score people that they go for like they got a category and they target them because they can make more off the shitty interest rate for one and then the late fees in that all up.

27:31 boils over so this idea of someone filing bankruptcy it's like oh well let's get them quick because they can't file bankruptcy again for another x amount of years or months so in this window we're gonna hit him with those late fees after late please cuz we already know they can manage money and it's like what are you doing that some of the most Desperate people in our society that prey on people that have nowhere else to go and you'll find it all parts of the country they have like a car dealerships that specialize in your watch their commercials. Sometimes i get a black football player somebody but there is your constantly everybody in the commercials usually black and they're trying to gear towards the very poor blacks who have awful credit. And they know that they have nowhere else to go to buy a car don't even many cases i wrote about this work, will actually put a device in the car where if you are one day late in payment

28:28 Give any grace period i'm like most of us get the car won't start. And of course the interest rates will be paying you'll be paying for like four cars or something maybe pay thirty percent interest to start with it's outrageous but, The vast majority of people that i've talked to will say well you know they got themselves in a position. Should pay their bills there's no sense to being okay well some kind of crisis came up the can happen anybody and yeah maybe sometimes it is all doing drugs irresponsible surely but still, they're really hurting only themselves and that's I think the question we have to ask about everything, whether it is homelessness or any other thing. What do we do about poor people? Do we consign them just dying in the streets? Do you want to euthanize them? We want to get rid of them as so many eugenicists wanted. I've written a lot about that in the past.

29:21 So many including almost all the leading liberals there you genesis. They only want a good stock to go on so they would like to get rid of this human refuse how do i think about it when i get rid of all these unsightly poor people that are everywhere but, what's really haven't done yet but we have to figure out some way people have to live and i think thats why were gonna come to a critical mass here soon with AI technology here in fact we already had far too many job applicants in this country for the amount of jobs that are there and if millions of jobs go automated. That obviously takes it makes even fewer jobs and if you continue to bring more immigrants who are poor, driving down wages in the process you gonna have been more people seeking fewer jobs is a disaster waiting happen no one's looking at an answer to that they're been

30:16 trial basis around the world in certain parts of universal basic income kind of thing i think you have to go with something like that because there's simply not gonna be enough work, what should we do something like when i would advocate which was my hero huey long and i devoted chapter on the book is really long. i think i'm trying to single handily restore his reputation is one of the greatest americans ever lived in. I think if he was around today because back in nineteen thirty she was advocating a thirty maybe twenty hour work week this before his pressure finally got us a forty hour work weekend guys over time and all the benefits that we take for granted, pensions things like that workers did not use to have

30:56 Before pressure from you along finally got roseville and the establishment democrats to pass an act in nineteen thirty eight that granted the kind of. Protections to workers that we never had before you see people shipping way at that house message republicans would like eliminate them but if you long was around today i think he would look at this situation logically realize okay the amount of workers technological improvements that have been made productivity can have now suppose the best, we should be probably having a ten hour work week Honestly by this point if you had something like a ten hour work week. You would have enough jobs around but you have to pay people enough to live for those ten hours and that's where apple can pay out or six hundred thirty three thousand dollars a year to attend five meetings mcdonalds contain it was andrew mckenna some eighty some your old guy, eighty million dollars whatever what is the sit on their board of directors in what is he doing at that age

31:50 They can do that companies are fine doing that they get paid carly fiorina hp compare forty million dollar gold number to go away after she runs their company in the ground, i don't mind doing that but they really are getting hurt if you want to pay the average worker and i'm gonna pay just working ten hours a week well. You had to bite the bullet back in late thirties and go for the forty hour work week of people like my grandfather worked twelve hours a day three hundred sixty five days you're the reality was back then for a lot working class people, you are two twelve hours there was no such thing as overtime there was no such thing is sick leave he worked up till two weeks. Before we die cancer had to work definitely because i had to feed his family that were benefits for people like that

32:34 And that was a reality of working class back then i hope we never go back to that but unfortunately lot of people. Would like to go back there and they're not even considering the fact that their jobs more job applicants in the only solution to me, is you have a much shorter work week like that and you allow what he long called all people to enjoy the blessings of prosperity And learning about Huey Long was great. I definitely have a Huey Long section here, but you know You mentioned earlier that people cope with drugs because they know they're screwed and they can't change the system It's really not an option for them And that's the thing I'm sure a lot of people know how bad this system is but

33:19 I mean is there something we can do on a personal level because we can't change it from the top down i mean of course there's things like nobody stopping us from, keeping everything in the family and working together the way the rockefellers and rothschilds to average families. Do not do that were all kind of off doing our own mediocre job i'm not one thing but is their up pivot weekend make to wear some of these disadvantages become advantages like start a corporation or something i don't know I think i would say hello to you long and my other heroes are john f kennedy and robert f kennedy, add roberts canada may one of the greatest speeches i think ever in south africa that i never heard speech he talked about anytime a man stands up against injustice. He sends for the tiny ripple of hope and all those tiny ripples of hope gathering together conform title wave. And overcome any kind of oppression so i guess we can really do what i try to do with my life there definitely tiny rebels

34:16 What i try to send for tiny ripples of hope and i think if enough of us did that we try to be principled and not dishonest not corrupt. Try to open what people like you are doing which is like this should try to wake people up to the corruption around them, I wrote this book is a stand alone issue but it's really good i think the most important issue that we face but its really very much connected to what i read about history when i'll be writing in the books coming out next year. There's a rig system there systemic corruption this is the most obvious to me the most obvious giant elephant walking around the room, is this disparity of wealth and the fact that it's natural that people have money because it takes money to get power

35:01 So money gets power so obviously what you have that power your wheel bed power for people that have money i mean affluence means influence quotes in the book about. How impossible it is to get your local school board superintendent talk to the average says little on your local congressional representative, but if you were ahead of a huge corporation i guarantee you'll be able to go out and have lunch with your local congressional represented because you are not fluent So by virtue of your affluence, you have influence. We don't have that affluence but if we come together as you noted the power in numbers and we see that especially in some immigrant families especially Asian immigrant families they will work together and pool their resources That's why so many can come here and own businesses

35:47 Americans could because they're willing to work together unfortunately americans and that's another subject entirely but where culture is we become fractured in there so much dysfunction infuting an american, the average american group of siblings starting a business together would you be lucky if it wasn't a murder happened with very short period of time i just don't know why that is i think has a lot to do with the culture maybe people thinking that supposed to be the way it is but. It isn't that way All around the world same thing with the treatment of the elderly we treat our elderly horribly in america but it's not that way all over the world again if you go to asian world really anywhere middle eastern world elders are revered. Elders are not really here and there is not respected at all they're treated parley,

36:33 Right agreed and tiny rebels a hope that's a nice sentiment but from someone who was assassinated by the machine so it's like difficult to say i mean that we have a shot but, i did wanna ask you more about hui long maybe not even ties in a little bit when we get to the end of his story. You know you mentioned a few other things that he did that people should be grateful for is the name i'm sure not many people know but tell us a little bit more about him if you say your all time political hero I guess i should probably stop and ponder why my three political heroes are all assassinated you long john f kennedy robert what. Again that's indicative of how corrupt things are because we always sassy nineteen thirty five so we can see obviously this corruption has been around for a long time, but he was very important because not only was the first one to really focus any had a catchy with a very colorful politician who would've done great on television in youtube star

37:29 I urge anyone to look at his speeches are still wonderful today he was captivated think of like a. Donald trump it is best but incredibly articulate probably smart he could encapsulate that little guy against the machine in everything he said but, When you took over as a louisiana governor we see it was a huge swamp he paid the entire state he did what we need to have done in this country are infrastructure is third world status and hasn't basically touched for fifty plus years, will be going in all these absurd wars and wasting money on grafted corruption again these meaningless wars.

38:05 We've let the country atrophy into third world status you long face that with. Louisiana because was a giant swamp so he did what needed to be done build roads and bridges he paid the entire state he built universities free health clinics all across the state, who's the man ahead of his time he invented the concept of adult education he invented the concept of free textbooks for children he invented the concept of medical and especially mental healthcare For prisoners and he took lots of the prisoners out of those prisons and put them in new mental health care facilities.

38:42 What we have been able to strike up a relationship with his great granddaughter who still fighting the good fight and keeping is like see live in i got lots of stats from their website there just infinite terms, unlike any other kind of so-called liberal. People in louisiana could look at what he long didn't say hey this saved us and i have exact numbers in the book but it was significant amount every year that the average citizen in louisiana saved utilities cost lower taxes ironically he was doing all the spending although even though he was spending all this money louisiana had the third lowest cost.

39:21 All the states in union because he was eliminating waste it was going after standard on the rocket that is making them pay money. Which is why you was despised but for the average guy eighty percent of people mistake had their property taxes eliminate, he basically eliminated foreclosures and properties he did everything that we expect a do gooder type of liberal to do and we haven't really seen his like ever before Or since just look up the numbers in my book and see what this guy did it just imagine he was talking about. literally a month after on this floor of the Senate, it's still in the congressional record. So people can go look and see he did all but accuse the Roosevelt administration of plotting to kill him. But he certainly talked about powerful forces plotting to assassinate him and then low and behold, he was assassinated a month later right after he announced that he was going to run for president in 1936. Now just imagine what he could have done for the country. And he was a genuine anti-war guy unlike Roosevelt most of the Democrats at all, they're Republicans

40:23 So I don't think we would have been involved in World War II, certainly against World War One. I think that the world would have been entirely different. We can't even imagine what the world would've been like and if... What he did for Louisiana Happen all across the america i can't imagine what a share of the wealth movement would have been like he was talking about. Confiscating your wealth and the world not just the income that's the difference between somebody like you long in your average liberal they ever just wants to raise taxes on the wealthy but, hey have all their loopholes and so they still end up paying nothing but also raised taxes significantly on this old called middle class which goes down way too low and so what should do is you have a

41:03 Drain of money from that middle class and maybe a little bit trickles down to those just below them. But nothing really ever changes where we need to do is go after what you long talked about he actually wanted to exempt the first million dollars of income, From taxation under his share the world plan people talk about that which would be like twelve million dollars today so you know who he was going after he understood where the wealth was even in those days to rockefeller foundations and things like that were just getting started we can imagine today. How much money is in the bill gates foundation are the foundations of people like that. That's where they hit well it is not to mention the rothschild shadowy figures everywhere we can't even really get a grasp on how much wealth is there but, you long new the well was at the top and that's all he was talking about anybody average person they would benefit from these certainly wasn't talking about taking what they had as i

42:00 hear from so many people when i talk about this all you just i worked hard for my what you don't have anything to take your money but everybody has that impression and she wanted. No one to have more than i think he was gonna cap fortunes that something like ten million or whatever it changed which be like forty million today does anybody really need more than forty million and he thought everybody should have a place to live at that time, i think his idea is everybody can have shelter car which is essential i think radio which is the newest. So what are been completely practical

42:37 Obviously would be maybe complicated but he was able to do that in louisiana so i think thats what we need and understand i'm probably a voice crying in the wilderness of that because, i'm sure it'd be attacked so much by the right on that but i don't see any other way around unless you just wanna have this disparity wealth which is growing and growing eventually gonna make us total third world country. Right i mean green paper these numbers on the screen this is one form of currency but you don't need more than forty million i mean when people are dying because they're in poverty. You should be able to see well okay and i'll make my sacrifices at forty million i mean that's reasonable to me and like i said i don't have any problem with people being successful but it's when you alter the game it's when you tell the scales its win you,

43:26 assassinate the people that are fighting for our side. Like, look! Battle it out in the arena of ideas if you can fool us with trickle-down economics... Our bad but when you're killing the people that are on our side now this is messed up and You have a chapter in the book called profits before progress which is probably my favorite because it does touch on this stuff the active suppressing of alternative fuels or technologies that can make the world better and not, nothing pisses me off more than pretty much all other things so i just a little bit about this chapter. Yeah well i mean i talked to their bed stanley myer you know the guy that invented the car that ran on water when it hurts and i try to track his brother down if they think is twin brothers still alive but i mean

44:12 I think the YouTube video is still out there and this made local news. They had a local news report that used to be on a YouTube video if it's still there, and they showed how...I mean it looked like a dune buggy or something but it was obviously just a working model he didn't have enough money I guess to actually put into a real car that we're used to seeing but it supposedly ran across the country on one or two gallons worth of water nothing else and then run back on 1-2 gallons worth He was i believe meeting in a restaurant with some potential investors and. What is the right so much about industry and everything else these unnatural death which are everywhere and they just happen like their scripted but he literally suddenly felt ill when outside it's basically died,

44:58 They don't really know who was food poisoning your wife but very strangely his plans apparently i dont know if they disappeared or whatever is twin brother who's working with him wasn't able to keep up with it but there are lots of things like that and where other inventors that have existed in the event of things like this but look at from the point of view like i said for a long time someone came out every week i think we know what this point cancer is largely contrived and they could easily get rid of it because its man made The book is coming out next year about earlier conspiracies I go into this a little bit more about how cancer wasn't even on the radar around nineteen hundred didn't exist and they actually study the remains of hundreds and hundreds of money's. Antiquity and basically found there was no evidence of cancer anywhere so obviously this is a modern thing

45:47 How was created what exactly we don't know but if someone let's just say someone came up with a magic pill vaccine or whatever that actually work and you took it and. No more cancer what would that do to this medical industrial complex in the people make the money they make off of the doctors the big pharma insurance companies hospital administrators, Just imagine the kind of money they would stand to lose so of course. You can almost see how they could let that happen in the same thing with being for inventors if you will come as i go for the stats learn how much money, the big oil companies make it's astonishing the kinda profits a naked says nothing to do with being genius if your selling something that the world is dependent on. You don't have to be great used car salesman

46:39 To sell people they have to go and buy gas so you're right it's going to be impossible for you to fail at that And the world's dependent on it because you made it that way. You killed off all the competition, like it's not literally the one source of fuel or the one source of energy that we have I mean people don't understand that there are way more empowering and cheaper technologies medicines energy systems also pressed over the years and some people see flying saucers in the sky and you can help but wonder how far that suppressed technology theme goes? I mean they're never gonna tell us all you can do is speculate

47:15 Right. But if any kind of alternative energy for there's a guy named John Newman that I wrote about in the book, and actually tried to contact him at his representative got back to me and I never got to talk to him though but i'd known about john newman since the 80s he developed some kind of device and he exhibited it in arenas The FDA supposedly why the FDA was in charge? I don't know but they have jurisdiction over this They supposedly looked at and the patent people supposedly looked invention and they couldn't find any examples of trickery but they just said it's scientifically impossible to basically what is he, play me could put a small device under the hood of your car and your car forever. I would cost couple hundred bucks any city can take a bigger advice put in your house my cost five hundred dollars and you have all the electricity wanted for ever so

48:04 Obviously something like that what would that do in his case he's even better how he still alive but yes. But yes i'm able to pat this device obviously the oil companies look what they stand to lose and something like that and we go back to nicole tesla nicole tesla wanted free energy for all, And what happened is records are still television shows trying to find out where his red and no one apparently is taking up this work in the white i guess he died thirty forty so. You talking about eighty years or something since you got even though he's very famous people talk about all time somebody should be looking at research but newmans, if something like that would not only affect the gas companies look at what money they will lose but utility company

48:46 Free energy for all free power for all that doesn't fit into the america and merica is become. Something way beyond free enterprise we're into crony capitalism and where to aim ran territory greed is good whatever's good if it makes money its good, so people just kinda roll their eyes first of all they don't believe that such things can exist i mean i guess they think that all the great inventions stopped you know the nineteen hundreds but These things have been tested and they should at least be permitted but we see even something as simple as the electric car i drive a hybrid. Can i just like getting that much better gas mileage is nice but, just an electric car something like that has been price so that again it's out of the reach most people who would like to maybe do that but

49:33 It's not financially feasible yet because whether it's keeping at that higher not enough people can afford to get even something and that's an advance but its not. It's not the kind of what you're talking about in a few examples i gave are real alternative energy but you know you go back and look at something like jimmy carter speeches during his administration when he was talking about solar power we need to conserve energy, we haven't moved one iota since the 70s. You're talking about 40 years, we haven't progressed at all! I mean there's a little effort i guess it solar power here and there but nothing really special and we're still going after the fossil fuels and certainly with Republicans in their...I don't think there is a dime worth of difference between the parties but on an issue like this you see they are dependence on fossil fuels as just the Trump types are just over-the-top

50:21 In their support of it yeah we need to draw for all when you do that thats what is reagan did in the eighties right after carter just went right back, did the old way of doing and that's the most profitable i understand it if they got businesses to think about cuz that's all there thinking about so. It's all about profit and thus the title of that chapter profits always come first these people Man i really do love that chapter like you said you cover tesla also talk about will have right and that stanley my example is probably my favorite the guy built that water powered car and then he was in a cracker barrel nineteen ninety eight with his brother and meeting with two belgian investors, he grabs his neck runs out to the parking lot and his brothers like what's going on man and his last words are they poison me and then.

51:11 Of course, the cause of death shows that it was something else called a brain aneurysm. Maybe that's caused by a chemical who knows? But you know he then calls the investors and says hey my brother died that day and they're like stone cold about it no condolences just radio silence And it's like of course you pose as an investor You're in that industry so you're like oh I'm fascinated by this you meet the guy you kill him and you're like all right now we can go back to making money yeah It's hard not to be paranoid can you write about people ask me that all the time because it is a great history i mean, stories like that are throughout the book when you get in the more overt political world. These unnatural deaths these body counts are everywhere people falling out of high buildings and being found on train tracks just

51:57 General public don't die that way but people connected to these events tend to be found dead in the woods you know to tend to dive natural causes thirty five crazy stuff like that but everybody knows kind of with a wink and an idea that's what happened. nobody really acknowledges it. And so something like this, clearly if you wrote a movie script like that everybody would know what happened to Stanley Meyer. They would know okay well yeah he threatened some really powerful interests somebody silenced him where his work and again I tried to find his twin brother we'd love say you know what happened Were you just kinda such a silent partner you didn't really know what was behind all this or was it just him no one else knew. That's what is mystifying with a lot of these things that tesla we know is tremendously isolated figure,

52:47 I mean this guy was really such an eccentric personality he was quintessential mad scientist i think it was really working for the common good. But you had that kind of you know he's completely isolated so he wasn't really sharing his research with anybody but still, he should have papers there and somebody should be especially as many fans is a has been other than naming the tesla car I haven't seen anybody you know i like to follow up on that free energy and not so much the death ray but you have a free energy and say things will home right can be well right was a less publicized figure but. Certainly his organ accumulator is just started series are,

53:24 Fascinating and they're out there people just kinda roll their eyes at it but you know to have something like that a box where you can cure people of diseases with the energy from orgasms or whatever. It sounds far out but apparently in the fact that he was thrown into prison died again all his papers were confiscated by why was paper scott is crazy let's be able look at him so These are the kind of things that they just shut down all these people you got a guy named john keely i don't believe i mentioned in the book but he was supposedly better perpetual motion machine back in the eighteen hundred so you had these types of people, throughout history but something always happens with me usually die strangely is my set joe newman stands up and still alive but order nor as it is case but.

54:14 People tend to go the state route i mean i grew up again in the sixties and seventies and i thought man i wanna drive one of those cool little flying bubble cars that jetsons have you know. What if u look at the predictions that were made they had these world fairs, they used to have every so often and the world's tomorrow at disneyworld in the year two thousand that was, so far advanced what we have in the year two thousand eighteen it's not even funny we really haven't progressed driving the same kinds of cars all the airplanes are bad old train tracks haven't been upgraded

54:49 The means of transportation are almost identical i mean at this point you know i envision not only flying jets and bubble cars but maybe teleportation pods like we start things like that it would really, that's what you think when you think a futuristic technology but. It just hasn't happened whether its been supported by that but just looking at the alternative energy thing and we know what happened to people like stanley meyer and joe newman We can only imagine how many people that might be building things like that my to build teleportation pads you built something like that what would that do the. The flight industry so i think thats what they look at first it's first and foremost its dollar figure wait a minute that's gonna impact, battle effect economy so i really think they suppress it whether we go to the lengths of actually killing these people well i mean they died that way so people can draw their own conclusions on that

55:45 Yeah man cheers all that and another big wake up call for me doing the show in previous episodes was learning. That prohibition didn't really have anything to do with alcohol consumption they don't care if we drink ourselves to death but most farmers at that time had stills and other tractors early cars could run on alcohol well we can have that now i give it to us, add like ethanol may kinda say guys were trying but its like you're not trying out what's your hundred years ago Yeah the first electric car was that time to sell and again i spoke about people like rockefeller's. That had a monopoly on standard oil this new invention automobiles, everybody is gonna be driving one day saw that can't people i can reford cut the prices are famously it gave his workers a pay raise so i wanna be able for my product so everybody could buy model c well

56:39 They were concerned the standard of people like that we're fighting it wait a minute you talk about saying dollar signs and all these people have to run on our product. Just imagine what kind of money we gonna make so of course they can go with that rather than the farmers and their stills or electricity which again is harder to something like electricity let you can come up with some kind of utility monopoly what i'm sure they would i think the only way you'll ever see electric cars everywhere there gonna come up with some kinda monopolistic thing where, they can profit from charging centers are they will come out some kinda way where they can at least make up some of the profit lose and gas oil companies. Hey man

57:21 Well donald that pretty much brings us to the end of the line i think depressed enough for one day you are obviously super knowledgeable really great talking to it's nice to have a fairness advocate out there, i dont think people realize just how much money is really in the mix versus what trickles down so great job laying all out there anything else in the works or projects wanna tell people about before we call and you mentioned a book coming out next year. Yeah, next spring I have... it's basically Hidden History 2. For some reason they didn't want that title so the official title is Crimes and Cover-Ups in American Politics 1776 to 1963

57:59 I'll have lots of controversial stuff to say about Abraham Lincoln and FDR, Woodrow Wilson and things like that. So i'll catch a lot of flack from that because it is controversial but people will find it real interesting. And also have a book hopefully coming out next fall with another publisher called Bulliocracy which is going to be about bullying in the social hierarchy schools. It's kind of different subject but very controversial in itself so I'm writing all the time so hopefully you see more books down the road Right on very cool well again big thanks for the book and for being here important work keep fighting a good fight and good luck on restoring an authentic left. Thanks for having me great you got a man take care, and there we have it guys donald jeffries drop in knowledge on just how tilted the scales really are, no i struggled with this one a little bit feeling like we might be preaching to the choir because we know the system is unfair

58:56 But really, it's good to go over these things again. Reinforce what we know, re-examine the details and like I say a lot give us the data to make better arguments when we're dealing with one of those Kool Aid drinkers We all know them! We all have Kool Aid drinkers that we love system proper uppers that are in our friends and family circles And its nice to shore up those arguments for when we might have a little bit of conflict with some of them And a lot like Gordon was saying last week, you don't have to hit them with everything at once. You can just kind of Socrates them into coming to these conclusions themselves by asking the right questions making the right points Do you really think that traditional path offers? The same opportunity for everyone is Just working hard enough to get you where you want to be and it's surprising how long we can go sometimes without A deep personal reflection on these things I'm guilty of it

59:56 So I think those are the parts that are most useful. Then we talked about Huey Long, and I thought that was great because history books usually leave out the people who at least tried to be champions of the everyman and then add in the fact he was killed for it... And its even more reason to pay homage to his legacy In fact, I found a recording of that Huey Long song and Im going to throw it right here Why we for slumber America, land of brave and true. With castles and clothing and food for all, all belong to you! Every man a king, every man a king, for you can be a millionaire

1:00:47 But there's something belonging to others, There is enough for all people to share. When it's sunny June and December too Or in the wintertime or spring There'll be peace without end Every neighbor a friend With every man of king I always just get a kick out of really old-timey stuff like that, and when i listen to the lyrics... ...I could understand how it might trigger someone into thinking breadline socialism universal poverty. But we just spent two hours talking about how much excess is at the top billions and trillions so nobody's talking about universal poverty here

1:01:33 And you know, of course I love talking about suppressed technology so i thought we had some good content there that wasn't just the same top three bullet points. And lastly, I really enjoyed getting into Don's head a bit about his politics and his feelings about what a more traditional or genuine left position looks like. I'm not saying I agree with every element, I just like to listen and reflect and see where the common ground is We always have in us the way we were raised so something about liberalism is in my DNA somewhere. Not the way it's expressed today but I would hope that there would be something else there of value because I don't want people to hear me say that and then look at the liberal philosophy today and consider them equal, because I do not! So I typically stay away from political labels because they just mean so many different things to so many different people and they do change over time

1:02:30 So I guess the question that was on my mind when getting familiar with Don's work and knowing that i'm about to interview him, was just that I picked up on this thread of what was The Left really or what could it be without all the co-option and without equating it to socialism. Obviously I am not in favor of a welfare state or weakening people's drive with handouts but some people do get chewed up and spit out by the system at no fault of their own I think i've said this before too, but for myself it's best to have a conservative philosophy. Nobody is going to help me! I gotta pull myself up by the bootstraps...I gotta be the best guy I can be....I have to limit my partying a little bit..you know? I'm quite hard on myself sometimes, quite stern and for me that's motivating. It's very helpful

1:03:24 But I think there's a difference between what we instill in ourselves as individuals and a philosophy that is going to work better for society overall. And i'm not making any conclusions, im not saying Im sure, Im just talking about ideas and this is just how I feel about it so...I thought there were some interesting things to pull out and examine when it comes to what a non-socialist, non globalist, non coopted left might look like We know it doesn't look like that today, that's obvious. But is there something there at the beginning that has value? today made me feel like there might be more than most days do. That's all I'm saying. Personally, I don't put immigration very high on my priority list either. Obviously there is a line and Europe is dealing with their own thing but as far as America goes...I live near the border. I don't see a huge flood of violent criminals crossing the border nobody's breaking into my house no one's breaking into my car In Missouri

1:04:27 People broke into my car and stole my stereo like six times. And this is just one man's experience, I don't care what the TV says, I don't care what the media tells me i should be up in arms about... My experience just doesn't look anything like that We obviously have issues overall with immigration. There's some stuff there that could be improved, but there are so many higher priorities in my mind It's like your house is burning down and you're mad because you found some ants in the kitchen You know what I mean? Let's reel back the waste that Don was talking about. Let's redistribute some of the war machine military industrial complex budget to more positive things, let's rebuild the infrastructure, let's take these corporations to task for polluting the planet

1:05:18 reignite some of these suppressed technologies, refocus our food on being a more local level operation and get clean goddamn water in our houses for Christ's sake. These are the things that I care about so much more than immigration. I know it is a hot topic right now but i think that a lot of it is media hyperbole and if you look around your own life I don't think you're going to see the immigration crisis that the media tells you is there. We have a homelessness crisis, and those things have a little bit of bleed over but i would ask what has affected your life more? The fact that harmful chemicals are pumped into your water supply or a Mexican family trying to find some relief in America? I don't want to frame it as an either-or choice but it's just not my go-to issue And again what do I know

1:06:17 There are a lot of issues that you don't see firsthand but are still issues. I'm not trying to be unfair, but all in all i found a lot of Don's ideas and the Huey Long style leftists to just be interesting again both parties are just so far off from their initial philosophies conservatives want to talk about a free market that is an absolute joke the conservatives that are actually in decision-making positions are fighting on behalf of monopolies for the most part So again, with the left I don't want higher taxes. I don't want to increase a welfare state. I don't want more censorship but i do want sensible regulations. I do wanna try and work towards everyone having a fairer chance. I'm sure if we strip down a lot of political positions and philosophies to their core or origins

1:07:08 We'd probably be able to endorse a lot of left or right things. It's just that we are so far off from that core, everything has been spun out of control to benefit the Capstone Cabal. They are masters at the Trojan horse and the bait-and-switch and using people's philosophies against them." Hopefully you guys see what I'm saying and also see the value in what Don was trying to articulate Even if you're on the right. We don't get anywhere by being harsh and uncompromising I myself have found several right-of-the aisle voices that i really do agree with and really appreciate Maybe, if you're more right leaning you could at least see some value in a Huey Long left position even If you don't adopt it. I want to pull back that polarization And find the common ground

1:07:57 If you didn't join the first hour of mr jeffries are second our continued along a lot of these same tracks and we got into some the content from his hidden history book as well, talk about how to robber barons did it better obviously that's a little tongue in cheek but the point is that. The elite of past generations past eras realized that if u choke us out too much you break this system and now your just on top of rubble and thats no good cuz screws are tightening We also talked about what was truly behind the Reagan assassination attempt and we got an analysis of the JFK research community's reaction to current politics. I really thought that was eye-opening because we get twisted up in being manipulated by the media, and we forget some of our own ideas

1:08:49 because there was a lot of trump analysis there and i thought it was really even handed and if you frame the current dynamic as the deep state verse. Trump which is obviously not exactly right but that's what the media is going with in the mainstream narrative he is fighting the deep state draining the swamp. Gordon had a good line and his newsletter that this one isn't being drained it's been landscaped like that, just for the sake of argument if these are the two sides You got people who really, really hate Trump and they're kind of putting themselves on the side of Team Deep State but they've been a JFK assassination researcher for years? Like I find that interesting. We also talked about the top-down pressure put on the masses to live with lower standards and increases in that agenda

1:09:41 And again, trying to bring back a true left as opposed to a warped version that we have today in American politics. So... A good time with a knowledgeable authentic guy I really liked his book He's trying to restore some sanity to an insane world and that's something we can all try to do right? so i've done my part Your move insulated elite system riggers and neck stompers of us little guys your fucking move They built a little of some crazy garbage called the blood of the exploited working class. We've overcome their shyness now we're calling your highness and the world screams save me THC they destroyed the bonds of friendship and respect between

1:10:45 The only people left who'd even look them in the eye and make a fortune off the same one that they tortured And the world gave me THC Let's look for Jesus We'll say Mr. Jesus Wonder who can tell me if it's true our chance to They built

1:11:43 Some crazy garbage called the blood of the exploited Working class overcome their shyness Now we're calling our highness and the world screams Save me THC, save me THC