Derrick Broze | The Election Circus, Quarantine Camps, & The Greater Reset

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01:27 These are the higher side chats. Happy days are here again, people from sunny San Diego! I'm Greg Carlwood and if our year navigating the vast conspiracy wasn't rocky enough it seems that our ship is headed right into the iceberg they call The Great Reset It's no surprise that the Capstone Cabal obsesses over the energetic and economic harvesting of the general population, but the digital age has given them tools to take this obsession to a whole new level of individualized control from de-platforming and social crediting to a new global vaccine and immunity passports. And while the water creeps ever closer to that proverbial boil, many of us are giving too much attention to the simulation of democracy by preselected presidential puppets slathered across our TV screens and not doing enough to jam up the gears of the big machine or even better building something of our own.

02:21 Well, that is the focus of today's returning guest Derek Brose who not only has a great handle on the challenges ahead but on actionable solutions to build back better in our own way. He is a prominent activist, journalist and the founder and CEO of The Conscious Resistance Network, an independent media organization focused on empowering individuals through education, philosophy, health, and community organizing. Derek has also created several great documentaries and is the author of How to Opt Out of the Technocratic State and The Holistic Self-Assessment. He seems as passionate and driven as ever since his recent YouTube ban, I'm psyched to have him back to talk about all that great stuff he's been covering lately so let's get into it! The man who sees the plan and is happy to lend a hand...the conscious resistor himself, Derek welcome back to THC. Thanks for having me on brother

03:13 You got it thanks for coming back so soon we did this back in august and had a great time talking largely about your own story running for mayor of houston and your finders cold documentary, and there's just so much going on now you're finger really has been on the pulse not only on the problems but also on better ways to live will get into it but the kick this off. I have yet to ask really any guests their thoughts on the election and it's been over a week, but i'm going to ask you because i am so in agreement with what you've been saying lately. Too many alternative thinkers have been shooting up with that QAnon hopium too many people in general have been investing their energy into the presidential election results and i'm sure it's gonna be a back-and-forth battle until January to keep the people in an emotional state of instability

04:04 but talk to us about how you view this circus and why it's a bad use of our attention to be so focused on it. Yeah well i like the way that you put that there but I do think it's a bad use of our energy and time and obviously thats valuable scarce resource and with everything going on great reset dark winter all crazy things everybody is kind of. Watching or preparing for hoping to avoid our time in energy are more important than ever so give me away that time energy and really i think your spirit to that system its detrimental but also i think Just on a practical level detrimental and wasteful because for one anybody who's paid attention i'm sure to your guest in your interviews or just watched trump's actions not listen to his tweets but you know actually judging by the character of his actions has seen that he is.

04:55 What is the best sometimes a wild card or maybe you know interesting diversion from the norm but he still representing the same people the same predator class and as with, what are you seeing with potential by coming in if that is indeed what happens it's gonna be more of the same it might baby speed up a little bit but for my mind thats nothing new because Every every election every president back and forth republicans democrats it progressively gets worse you know they argue about abortion immigration a few other issues in accuse each other being fascist or communist are not these racist whatever maybe but the wars go on the surveillance grows the debt grows economic theft continues and technology of course is growing and, yes all these things are marching forward actually just put out a new article yesterday on the last american vagabond that.

05:44 Just kind of examines by has announced that he is a thirteen member coronavirus task force that he's gonna implement if you doesn't need get into the office. Just to kinda show people like hey this is nothing new don't like the people who are having hope that, oh biden just gonna fix things that trump broke in other kinda people coming from those angles can see it Look at who biden's connected to you should have skepticism at least of all these different people connected gates foundation rockefeller's council on foreign relations the CIA is venture firm and tell, add others you know she had skepticism about that but also what i make clear in the article though is that this is just a continuation of the same sort of swamp that trump had with the operation warp speed and he currently has so it's not like.

06:25 Oh, you know gas Biden's gonna be much worse. It's like he's continuing the same relationship So yeah ultimately I think it is a diversion. It's a distraction to me it's only relevant in so far as we're talking about the realities of dark winter and potential for some kind of unrest or a false flag of some kind to happen in the coming weeks, as this saga plays out. Trump's going to fight in the court? Will he leave in the office? Biden is already laying plans. They're setting the stage for some things that we've already seen predicted and other simulations and you know the election and so that's like to me the only reason i'm really paid any attention because i definitely have been getting it more time than i would care too but its been kind of with a microscope lens sort of examining the words are saying looking for. Use your any signs anything that will make it helpful for me to try to,

07:19 Wake people up on both sides because like you said some people are really buying to the queue and i'm trump hope you know wait hold on this is a secret operation he's doing this to expose people as forty chest disinformation necessary all this kind of stuff there still holding onto that narrative in their property i guess gonna hold onto the better end. And then you have, people on the more left leaning it or maybe they're not even laugh but they just don't like trumps so devoted for democrats And a lot of those people now really feel like they just saved the world. You know, they brought decency back to America and everybody can rest now and I think that's probably even more dangerous than Trump because it's going to create a situation where the quote unquote other side is going to be willing to basically accept anyone as they did with Biden you know nobody was really excited about Biden prior to this

08:07 except anyone in that office and pretty much accept anything from the biden harris administration so long as it's not trump. It could be the exact same actions as trump i've actually been kind of working on some funny memes and things about to put out that basically try to confuse people and say oh my god did you hear trump do this and actually wait hold on that was joe byron already kinda just started showing the overlap between these two so you know that's what really concerns me as far as election like i don't give a shit if it's trump orbits by and like i'm gonna keep fighting for the same things no matter what and keep exposing the same things in that's why put that article out to say look here is the truth about biden at work scene connections to gates and of course trumps operation warp speed was headed by big pharma vaccine exec. That also has ties to gates and you know it's the same swamp so ultimately to meet its more diversion

08:56 the password maybe gonna look a little differently but ultimately these people have invested billions and billions of dollars into what they're calling the great reset in no kind of read designing the global economy is just the world in general investing technocracy that president is just such a minor player on that scale you know. Agreed The whole election cycle there was no platform to help anyone it was just like i'm not that guy that guys worse and how can anyone be passionate about someone when they offer no solutions or no plan for the. Vice grip that a lot of people feel like their in economically the decay have so many things in our society that have been neglected for so long its silly to be so passionate but,

09:48 A lot of people that would listen to an alternative show like this, they see Trump out there without a mask and they equate that to resisting the COVID-1984 protocols. But that's just not true. We talked before about how he pulled funding from the World Health Organization but then gave over $1 billion dollars to Bill Gates' backed Gavi Vaccine Alliance donating our tax dollars right along with several million coming from the Rockefeller Foundation and That's not all right. I mean you mentioned Operation Warp Speed Talk to us about that as an example or other things we see that Trump really is not resisting this COVID 1984 stuff it really is the same

10:30 plan because even though biden's claimed that he won this election or the media has, claim that he want it i'm not so sure we won't see a serious back and forth between now in january and just want people to know that regardless like. The stages already set and trump is doing things like this operation warp speed that show us that the agenda coming regardless of what president we have Yes operation warp speed is a big part of it and for those who are aware that was what they call public private partnership which is basically just corporate like you mentioned can't take tax dollars in. Partnering with corporations and they say its in the public interest but usually the corporations just get really rich investors get rich and there's a lot of corruption going on, operational speed is no different essentially some military operation when comes down to and basically

11:23 there bring together the dd bringing together people from darpa they're bringing together people from google and of course people connected to the gates foundation. And it's a massive operation that they announced back in may and the guy that trump appointed to his name is moncef slough he is a former executive at glaxo smith klein you also sits on the board of the company madonna or he didn't tell recently when he was kind of pressure to quit and moderna one of the companies that is working on, The code of vaccine particularly the mrna vaccine which is i'm sure some your audience familiar with the backseat actually affect you on the dna level in that. People are pretty concerned where they could go and how they can affect us long term so he sits on the board one of the six leading companies for the covid nineteen vaccines no conflict of interest there and then

12:10 Several other people connected to it you're just again the same swamp that was kind of describing with by then to me that's one of the most obvious examples and then you sort of mentioned the we talked about before about. Trump claiming he was gonna pull out of the world health organization but again as i said in our last interview that doesn't happen till april two thousand twenty one so if she's not an office that's not gonna happen anyways it is just all talk, do you know lot of things seem to work out that way and then of course even if it does happened he basically went gave more money too Gates through gavi and gavi is a huge part of the global vaccine propaganda as well as pushing the idea that anti-vaxxers should be censored and potentially even arrested so in my mind. What one thing first for me going further what i've noticed and i notice this from the trump and before trump administration at least during the obama administration it's probably been true for every single puppet to come into office and their followers but with obama

13:06 After a couple years or even just a couple months when he started pointing banks to it people like myself and others were saying hey look guys you want to open change but look this guy is involved with the same people and it was well just give me time let's get into office and then we got into office and it was sort of like. well let's wait and see what he does or in the case of obama it was like hey he is the first black president that kind of keep that down this not be too critical because. No we don't wanna harm the legacy of the first black present i heard just all kinds stupid arguments like this then all the way into the second term which by that point way clear that obama was just more of the same but people made the same argument they make now it's a yeah buddy better than the other guy so will take him for four more years and my point here is at

13:50 When you pull out these criticism that you point out these things to people in some cases it's like they scribe all powerful knowing godlike powers to whatever culture following weather at obama or trump this person is taking on the deep state they can do anything over this persons literally saving the world whatever it may be, But then when you're critical of them it's like all the sudden this person doesn't have power so i know that's not actually trump you know what he does make all the decisions are these other just like they wanna have both ways right in my mind. A president clearly is a powerful position even if its not the top position at the top of your minutes still very people have influence and control because of that and you can we'll bet trump clearly likes to wheel back, to me if she was truly staying up against his he would be making bold statements

14:37 About staying up against the vaccines are just saying like hey we're not gonna make this mandatory like you know put a real hard line down it not sort of being vague or kind of having other people make. References to the potential that people who don't get vaccinated will be protected whatever and i do know somebody actually sent me an article from the day i had seen it right before the election or even i think after the election maybe trump said something along lines of, We're not gonna make it mandatory people have a choice and somebody was trying to share that with me like see you look he's fighting against the code nonsense is finding its operation warp speed, end i mean you gotta use critical thinking the guy had had ten months eleven months this whole thing to come out strong instead he chooses a couple days before the election to say that i mean it's clear to me thats. Trying too

15:23 Maybe pacify his base or just make sure that he gets those extra vaccine skeptic voters soccer moms are concerned about backseat local seat rump said it sounds better than. Biden who prefers masks and the other thing is just one final note here is like just in the last couple of days as we're recording this, I think it was yesterday actually Pfizer announced that they had 90% effective vaccine which of course like that's a lie the way they're doing the test is actually lot lower number than ninety percent doesn't mean what people think it means but you had trump promoting insane big news stock markets going up new vaccine on the way great news and so okay got him celebrating the vaccine that's coming, which maybe still he would let it be when go for something mandatory or whatever.

16:09 but is clearly promoting and on the flip side you have like by going yeah the vaccine is good news but there's still a dark winter on the way so as far as i'm concerned they're both just playing different roles and again as i mentioned earlier, the technocracy doesn't care about the president of class doesn't care about the president even if. Trump or biden whoever came out instead like look we're not gonna make it mandatory in the sense that they're not gonna put a gun to your head and bring cops your house to make sure that u take the shot they're already talking about floating in mainstream publications the idea that people's health care should go up if they don't get vaccinated the idea that you can travel or work kids can go to school all these kinds of things so there gonna use social engineering too.

16:52 basically lock people in the people who are prepared to learn off the grid or out of the control system, the people who aren't kind of forward thinking and trying to think about this ahead time i gonna end up being sucked into that and so that system. Which is part of a great reset is coming no matter what trump or by does not i think you only can stop it. Is us like individuals they know that don't mean to say like hey we're manifesting their reality cuz I do think there's an opportunity for us too Do something better what me and some friends have started to call the greater reset or the people's reset just an idea that we're trying to really get together and get it to be cohesive so i do think we can determine but as far as presidents go. Those plans are gonna roll for no matter what cult leaders in there

17:37 Well said yes they've been talking about how the vaccine won't be mandatory but it will be heavily quote-unquote incentivized which means limiting the resources and movement and freedom of people who don't take it that's what incentivize means. And this is a giant agenda by the technocracy there not gonna let something as arbitrary as a presidential election get in the way of it And when it comes to the plans being rolled out in response to this second wave, let's say. You've been talking about things that a lot of other people are missing and a big one of those things is quarantine camps much like the FEMA camps people were speculating about several years back but this is straight from the CDC's website right? Tell us about this

18:29 Yes this one is actually been getting as you can imagine like when you start talking about things like this you get just the kind of new jerk your crazy even among i would say, the truth or conspiracy culture some people are skeptical to believe that these plans could be put in place but as you mentioned the link that i found which was sent me through a couple listeners was taken directly from the CDC's website. And actually, I did a video on this recently but I realized since then...I think I'm going to do a second video on this actually and so I'll sort of give you the video first basically because the video is basically gonna be let's fact check my previous videos since some of you are claiming that this isn't real Because actually when I went to go look at the CDC document on the website and I'll send that link to you so you can include it for people to see themselves

19:16 there's actually another page that i didn't even go over my video which makes it even more clear that specifically focus on covid because some people trying to tell me, that i was being crazy and i was wrong this actually just talks about refugees and how to handle covid refugees will first of all the cdc is not international organization cdc space united states domestic. disease prevention or whatever they claim to be but it's not an international is not the united nations so why would the cdc talking about. Refugee camps in international settings are right so that doesn't hold water but again when i look at the document because i got a couple of comments and i was like let me go do my due diligence make sure i didn't miss see something or see something that i wanted to see wasn't really there

19:59 So i'm looking at right now it's under global covert nineteen coronavirus disease at the cdc website and does not anywhere else say the word international that is talking about international settings and then. So the one i originally was looking at my videos called operational considerations for humanitarian settings which is still do you believe it's talking about the domestic population, they might be trying to talk about humanitarian settings but that's the euphemism they call torture and hands interrogation humanitarian setting could be the code word for concentration camp or something but right above that when i actually found another form of this document and it's called operational considerations for community isolation centers for COVID-19 and low resource settings. I mean, i don't know how much more clear that could be than that and this one was actually updated more recently as recent as September 10th 2020 so it is specifically talking about COVID and it's talking about the United States and talking about communities and what they label as high risk individuals and they describe a couple different situations one is like

21:03 I'm sure they're gonna have some barometer probably like the other hotel or thing just like with a lockdowns are going back in agreement read whatever it's all similar but there can i have some way to measure what. Your risk level is this a party done through immunity passport most likely to the common pass which has been promoted a lot lately and its funded by the world economic forum in the rockfeller foundation, They will probably have you using some sort of a passport and my guess is that if your temperature goes to higher the app for the device that were able to buy their working on those as well. tell them that your biology is off then it would potentially alert somebody and then the first step is if you're low risk you can isolate in quarantine on your own house with your family and there's all these different rules they have for how your family should act and how often they should see you just all that kind of stuff, add a next level describes like the neighborhood talks about neighborhood

21:56 isolation centers and quarantine centers and how many people those can hold and then they talk about beyond that like if i guess you're even more of a big risk it's like we gotta take you further away and they take you to regional isolation or community quarantine center. And so these documents just described that whole process. I mean, it specifically mentions like separating children from parents. It talks about isolating the elderly which obviously is a more at risk population which to me honestly and i'll say again this doesn't say this on the CDC website So this is me adding a little bit of speculation just to make that clear but I think knowing everything we know I really really suspect that if these isolation centers in quarantine centers do go live and two thousand twenty one which is what it appears to be we have been popping up in canada there are even new zealand already in australia people talking about finding information another countries that i've seen, if these things do go live i would not be surprised if.

22:52 A lot of people are killed and i don't mean like you know the doctor comes over jokes them but they put them in situations where there more likely to. Get sick or two get each other sicker things like that because we've already seen some of the crazy things happen in new york and elsewhere with nursing home stuff so i dont know something about this feels clearly not about keeping people safe Yeah, there are some really creepy parts like they talk about the shielding approach which I believe is where they're saying within the home you're gonna need to have a quarantine room for people that they've determined are immunocompromised or of a certain age and they're going to be checking in on that. To make sure that within your own home You're not interacting with like your aging parents or something like that They talk about green zones which

23:42 They basically equate to the public spaces where everybody has been cleared to enter so yes the immunity passport temperature checks you know let's ignore the fact that there is a thousand reasons you can have a temperature that are still in existence outside of coven nineteen but. These like public square areas where they can say that within this barrier everybody has been cleared which means there gonna be tracing everybody it means that if you don't take the vaccine or your, rejecting any of the stuff you can go into those areas well what's gonna be in the green zone probably our grocery stores and stuff like that so.

24:22 It really does start to make me get a little bit anxious. I've done this show for a long time, but nothing has ever been as in your face as some of these things and it's not to be hyperbolic but we're trying to decode the kind of stuff that is written in plain sight using less polarizing language and that's just the way they talk it's that corporate political speak but when you read between the lines it does not sound. Very good at all and of course you made this mini documentary the darkest winter is very good goes over those simulations that we've talked about with guests like whitney webb event to one crimson contagion played x n,

25:06 So this is something i wanted to ask you about because this little mini documentary you put together it is a great resource to present to our friends and family who are not on board but at the same time when i tried to show my non conspiratorial minded friends and family something like this and point out that they've been running these simulations for a long time, they say well what should the CDC and the World Health Organization be doing if not planning for a pandemic? And I can understand from their perspective. If you don't have that inherent skepticism of people in power, A lot of regular folks just see those simulations as these organizations doing their jobs

25:52 how do you counterpoint people when you get a response like that yeah that's pretty common one that i've heard myself as well and like he said if you don't have the background of research that, a lot of us to happen have spent years and she no sleepless nights working in researching trying to put these pieces together then it's kind of hard to drop that on somebody who hasn't even done that 101 and of course inevitably once you start trying explain that you're gonna come off and they're gonna treat you like you know the conspiracy theorist but the fact of the matter is that if you don't understand that even before nine eleven going back as far as the oklahoma city bombing in nineteen ninety five and i'm sure we can find examples prior to that. There have been simulations exercises that,

26:39 Ten to coincide with major world events like i said the city bombing nine eleven major school shootings or other mass shooter events the boston bombing that just so happen as you know it's who, coincide with drills simulations exercise sometimes taking place on the same day right nearby where they event takes place or sometimes days weeks months prior and again sometimes in a similar location or an often. The details are perfect of course right like we watch a simulation the simulation talks about, Flying planes in the buildings or something for example but maybe all the details are fully on right where they run a simulation like event to one and they simulate what could happen if there's a coronavirus pandemic that sweeps the world but in their version of it came from pigs and they call it caps you know i mean like slight differences started this country whatever may be at the point is that clearly the global elite predator class like two

27:39 put this information out there they run simulations and it could be a simple as like their trying to see how we can respond i think at the point right now though they also have access to artificial intelligence algorithms where i think they're literally probably feeding in all the data that they gathered from everybody via facebook and google everywhere else and feeding that into their computers And essentially getting out like a simple as a little program out of these are the scenarios that are most likely to produce the results you want these ones could result in this responses literally having it mapped out so i think thats apart of it but also on the more esoteric spiritual plane that these folks are.

28:20 I think putting their plans out as obvious they can be because you could say it's part of the religion or part of the ritual that they have to put it out and there might even be just a little bit of smugness of just kind of putting it right people spaces in like you said so many things are blatant now more than ever been not get too off track but one example that is this recent trailer for this movie songbird that i'm sure you've already come across that is just insane like me it's clearly yes the hollywood movie and again we talk to somebody about this from the normie world and they say well that's hollywood man is just you know hollywood doing a weird take on. some of you paranoid conspiracy theorists or whatever. You know, you could take that point of view, you could argue that but again I think these things are meant to be put in front us just sort of show us the plan and show us the game and on a subconscious level kind of planting the seed in people's minds and that movie specifically describes everything we're sitting here warning about they show somebody who is traveling

29:15 The cops are pointing the guns at him and he's like, hold on. Hold on I'm immune and he shows some like wristband You know so it could be a wrist band It could be a QR code something like that you know I actually while we're sitting here recording this had somebody send me an Article that just came out how ticketmaster plans to check your vaccine status for concerts So I mean there he goes another way that they're going to be implementing this so this movie in these different simulations they show us some of the plan, you know? And I know it kind of got off track with the question but i think basically the point is that like it's hard to convince people if they're gonna take that sort of perspective because again if you read the great reset you look at the website it all sounds like okay well let's create a more equitable just world but yeah we should do no have drivers cars and all these great things in there stand psychology understand marketing how that can affect control the mind so they've done a great job convincing. People that this is all for their own good and also kind of

30:11 Disguising it and flowery nice language that the average person. Especially somebody who doesn't have an inherent skepticism or mistrust of authorities is going to only hear the best end feel like oh my god this utopia sounds great so thats part of what we're battling is that people do you have a trust of the authorities even if they don't have a trust the authority date might not really fully understand how deep this whole thing goes Mm-hmm. Very true, and just by the logic of the vaccine it's like if you get it then you should be able to go to a concert with 1,000 people who don't have it because you're immune! That's the whole point why'd you let them inject you as something if you're still at risk of the virus? So by their own logic it's just really frustrating to me but the education phase has been a huge challenge because our conventional friends and family are just not open to these things

31:04 When I point out the 99% survival rate, they respond with an article about scary long-term effects like lung damage and mental illness. If I point out that Fauci himself said masks don't work then they throw out stuff like well we know more now than we knew in March. And it really does just come down to that fundamental belief that leaders are doing their best to help. Obviously other people like us maybe don't have that opinion but Before we get too deep into this, let's talk about freedom cells. I think we drove home that this stuff is coming no matter what and it's time to do something about it.

31:47 And so I want their resistance to be strong because if they kick everyone out of the party, then it's easier to have a party of our own. So the more people we have that will resist a vaccine, the more people we have to build something outside of this system with and freedom cells are a big part of that right? Yes so did we touch on freedom cells in the last interview i think we did a little bit right, we did but i saw several comments from people who are familiar with your work that said we didn't do it justice we didn't talk about enough and so let's throw in free themselves or if there is any other similar tools that people should use for trying to build something outside of the system.

32:25 Absolutely. I just wanted to see what I shared last time, but definitely so if you're focused on solutions and you're hearing this conversation clearly the people who come to your podcast man they enjoy being informed and do touch on such a wide variety of important topics which i think is crucial and I think your audience like yourself it sounds are increasingly becoming aware of the necessity for solutions in and I think that's kind of reflective of the overall For the most part, growing truth or conspiracy community whatever you want to say. Because I think i told you last time and this is only more evident here we are now sitting in November that the Freedom Cells website and just the concept in general has exploded exponentially since I've been promoting it for about five years And when I first learned about from a friend who was promoting it I think a year before me so maybe five or six years of giving talks about this and sharing the idea building the website and all these kind of things

33:19 And in the last year since we've kind of revamped and relaunched the website, we now have 5500 members on the website from all around the world. Different cells forming different groups and the essential idea is that people who are looking to break free or be able to survive – not just survive but thrive continue to live wonderful lives that we all enjoy or hope to enjoy If you see the technology coming and you see the great reset in a dark winter and a lot of these different plans it has become increasingly clear and i hope is becoming more clear for people that being able to live a free life.

33:58 the way we want to is not going to be possible under their system and you can either just continue to sit by enjoy and listen to these podcasts and do nothing and then before you know it you can't go to a concert without showing your vaccine status or, you can't go to the grocery store in all of things that were just mentioning. or you can begin to be proactive start taking steps to make sure that your loved ones are going to be taken care of and able to help yourself no matter what rises in the society around you. And part of that is too Work with your neighbors and that might not be your next door neighbor in my not even the people in your specific neighborhood or your community you might have to drive a little bit down the road to find that like mind in your community but the goal is it we're using this freedom cells concept and our website freedom sells dot org, do encourage people to connect to build these groups of eight individuals seven day tonight when that range eighty ideal and we have.

34:54 Some literature and studies behind that and different people who've done research on group dynamics, and why that number is valuable But the goal is basically even if you don't have eight people if you got two people three people for start where you can find the people that are nearby you create a Orlando freedom cell or whatever. You want to call it some people give them creative names and Start hosting meetings star getting to know each other starts seeing What are your goals what would you like to do maybe everybody in the group wants to make sure they have a backup supply of food for a couple months so you all start working on that together and forming your emergency bags. Weather that's four economic collapse or just for weather emergency really could be for anything the goal, for me is to just be prepared you know there's been so much propaganda put towards people who are prepared you know the idea like a doomsday prep right so it's kinda look down upon her

35:44 it's almost like a derogatory term you know but when you really think about that it just about being prepared and everyone of our ancestors in our I know the people come before us made to where they were and make sure that we were here by being prepared and thinking ahead what was coming and I think we've really lost at a lot of ways so freedom cells is away too encourage individuals to get their shit together and start taking care themselves getting some backup supply food learning maybe maybe you as an individual but also yourself together decide that self defense is important so, you guys go take a self-defense class together start taking taekwondo together whatever it may be not only is that a team building exercise but its going to help you in that goal of self defense or maybe you guys are into firearms and

36:28 Start doing firearm training going to the gun range and things of that sort maybe your group is really hyper focused on growing food which everybody should be and You know wants to learn more about permaculture And so you start watching documentaries together and doing research together sharing different tips together Maybe go volunteer at a community garden together So this is your core team, your tribe people that you can develop skills share ideas and resources. Of course everybody in that group is well it's going to have resources and skills to offer so maybe some guys. Super you know invested in crypto and educated on that front he can get like a crypto skill share help everybody gets set up to have. Wallets are actually decentralized private outside the banking system or maybe it could be silver whatever it could be maybe one of the members is an expert at, primitive building so they teach everybody else in the group that the idea is that the knowledge and powers diffused among the group and that's not there's not one central leader one central person that is

37:25 if they leave or whatever that the group falls apart now that's the first part that's what my buddy john bush has been helping me can i promote this concept of last year's calls like the inner country that your main core group and then from there the idea would be as everybody is building these individual cells locally in their communities which is already happening where at that stage now we have a fifty five hundred people on the website got maps we can search to find individuals within 510 fifty hundred miles of you can search the other map which is specifically for cells and that's where people are creating their groups and we've had people call them hives hub circles, sells pods whatever the name doesn't matter it's the concept.

38:06 Can you use the maps to find people to connect with them and of course the goal is to connect in real world and start organizing as each other doing this building our inner car locally all over the world we have lots of people are active in australia india and they're just kicking ass it's really awesome to see. And as a building those then you can also have the sort of next level where maybe your in orlando i don't know why i'm using orlando example But if you're in Orlando and you realize that hey there's five other freedom cells that are forming in different parts of the city, it's not necessarily convenient for us to meet with them every week but maybe you have a monthly

38:44 kind of regional or city wide freedom so conference get together where everybody comes together and shares what their individual cells are working on how they can collaborate for maybe there's like a massive gardening permaculture blitz around the city were all the free themselves come together in an over weekend just go through different communities and help build community gardens and get people set up with seeds are not just And I'm just giving a couple of examples here, but it clearly is a decentralized idea that can be used in so many different ways. So there are some cells that are maybe somewhat consider them more like militias almost because they're focused on how to defend themselves with firearms and guns and they've got

39:23 emergency bags and they've got backup food and all that stuff. They're more focused on like prepping, and that's definitely one use of freedom cells but there are also some that are just parents who want to connect in form freedom cells with other parents who want to teach their kids outside the state education system so that's their kind of focus of like how can we learn more about parenting and raising our kids in different ways? And then there is going to be some cells do a little bit of all it you know just based on the region environment people's interests So it's been really exciting and because like I said the growth has been exponential actually before we had this interview. I was doing a business call with some guys who they want to help us take it to the next level at the website is there, its functional but were small two or three person team

40:07 and you know there are kinks that were working out so that we can keep up with the interest in the growth of it. And we're gonna work on creating a dapp decentralized app for and lot of exciting things i think will really help take to next level because a big part of the goal is well you know what does organizing connecting locally but then like i was saying you can connect on the regional level maybe eventually on the national international level and the idea being like a certain with the technocracy that we start to establish a parallel network of people who can trade skills trade resources can barter can purchase from each other maybe some freedom cells start getting into growing on food or creating their own products and also i would like for the map as it grows in as people really are get use out of it but you could essentially

40:50 use it to travel and connect with other like minds you can plug you in where there's gonna be the good food or the underground economies are you know i guess with a ticket master doing that having an underground shows music festivals everything like that just being able to use the map of freedom so network as away too, Not to try to challenge them and know let's go vote our people in or that's violently overthrow them But being able to create something parallel to them that can maybe eventually challenge them economically but at the very least Allow for those of us who don't want to submit to their vision to still be able to live and thrive Mm-hmm. Yeah, it seems very useful I've made an account myself and checked out some other groups in my area and

41:36 And in there you mentioned the need for connecting in the real world and that is a whole other layer that we have to deal with because even if a person sees the control agenda if they recognize the technocracy, This other layer is where they have made us afraid to gather, made us afraid to see each other. And when it comes to COVID you point out in one of your articles that the virus hasn't been isolated and there's still a lot of debate on if there even is a virus out there last time we talked a bit about the links people are making to 5G Have your thoughts evolved on that at all? What is the PCR test even finding when it denotes a positive

42:21 case? And do you even see us as being at any type of risk when we gather with people or organize for new communities. I mean, this has got to be something that you've gotten past personally, at least what would you say to some of that stuff?" So yeah like you said iIve written about PCR tests and definitely acknowledge that there seems to be a lack of being able to isolate this virus despite what you know we've been told in honestly it reminds me just so much of the research that I've done over the years about the AIDS epidemic and things and i know anybody who's looked into that region probably knows what I'm talking about. Clearly, the creator of the PCR test Kerry Mollis he was also

43:02 And hiv skeptic i guess you could say people might describe me worse words in the mainstream but. He was an intelligent guy who wasn't dismissible as just a conspiracy theorist at least not while he was alive so they just seem like they tried to ignore him but during his life and other researchers pointed out a lot of that, different discrepancies with the whole HIV situation. And here we are dealing with a lot of those same problems as it relates to COVID and specifically with the PCR test, while I was back in the States in Houston, I had a chance to go to one of the press conferences there where the mayor and the Houston health authority were basically just recommending masks and all that kind of stuff and was able to ask them about the fact that It had started to come out not just in Texas but other places these issues with the PCR test to the point that one of

43:49 counties in texas actually came out and said we have no faith in any of these numbers you know and they're just pretty much saying like because everything going on we don't trust the numbers at all. And I asked the mayor and health authority about that basically they did admit now course this is not on any front pages of any newspapers in houston which he would think should be, because to me it's just like i'm just asking basic questions from doing research listening to scientists who have been questioning the pcr test including There's a researcher and professor in the UK i can't think of his name but he's in my article about the pcr test you know so i've just been kinda listening to their information and studying as well as what carry molly said and. The key i think there is this whole threshold concept you know where they talk about how they call cycle thresholds were

44:37 the higher the cycle threshold, the more likely they're to find a positive thing. So when I did ask the Houston Health Authority basically they were like yeah there are some issues with the numbers which was interesting because this came out right before the BBC and some other UK papers admitted that and it was based on this professor's statements that the PCR test was leading to false positives but I had asked the health authority about that and said hey i've heard that PCR test could pick up pretty much a residue of any past. disease that someone's been carrying or a virus and I know some people of course don't believe in viruses at all, and you know. I'm open to the conversation but for the moment let's set that aside." And so he's basically saying what I've heard again is this test can just be used to find anything and I think that's what many of us are realizing So if you have been sick in the past they can just go up to like 60 cycle thresholds and they're going to find something where the test is going to indicate there's something there and then yeah look it's a positive result

45:39 So what's interesting that the houston health authority at least admitted that was a problem you know he didn't really frame it as like oh some grand conspiracy going on which i think once you understand yet to think about the implications like okay how come the health authority of the fourth largest city in country of us is sitting here admitting to me and I'm just like an independent journalist that yeah, these tests could be leading to false positives and there's not a national or international standard. And you know he said his recommendation is it should be like 30 cycle thresholds and apparently a lot of the tests are going up to like 40 and more so they're going to give false positives. So I think that's a big part of the whole puzzle there is at the PCR test itself as being misused or abused

46:21 And I'm sure there are people who are aware of it to create what some have started to refer to as the case democratic because it's really not about deaths anymore just about we got more cases more cases and more cases in clearly the pcr test is an essential piece of that puzzle there. And i'll give you this as well and so I don't know what the hell code is definitely still don't believe that it's five g. I think that in fact that theory has only become less relevant at least in my eyes now again and on to say this because somebody gonna comment and claim that im a 5g show, i've done a documentary on five g five g absolutely does cause harm emf all these things can overtime we can your immune system but as i think i said last time its not a

47:02 You get exposed to emf and you get cancer the next day or do you fall on the ground like that's not how it works now unless there is some directed energy weapon being used and I know some people have those theories but i haven't seen evidence. then that's just not how it affects you to cumulative effect builds up so you wouldn't just fall down but what i want a point to those if it was true then why would there even be a lol cases in the summer right if like, if it was wuhan which by the way people are out partying clubs and now they haven't got rid of their five g in any case you know cuz argument beginning with its this most high five g frequency cn world may have some towers which is true definitely do.

47:42 Why would those symptoms or those things just go away if that was true? So my position hasn't changed on that issue. And so like I said, I don't know what it is but let me tell you this...I got sick like two weeks ago and I don't know what the hell its from! I don't social distance, I don't wear masks and where I'm at in Mexico its not an issue. Like I can go to the gym, I can go all of my favorite markets and get fruits and vegetables organic with no masks and go out to eat with friends I'm not dealing with any that stuff so other people are wearing their masks if they choose to but we don't do that but one day a couple weeks ago i just started to feel.

48:19 you know, really kind of under the weather. And it was kind of like a flu just of course whatever it was and maybe it was just a flu I don't really ever get sick though maybe once every couple years so this could have been that thing but this was unlike any sort of flu that I've had prior to this like it started with feeling dizzy and then getting headaches and then a real strong fever and then I kind of went to bed and I didn't sleep the whole night and this happened for like three nights in a row because my bones were hurting no matter like which way I laid my freaking back and, like...I don't know if it was from my lungs because i could breathe fine. It wasn't like I was you know, having breathing trouble but it just my back and my bones and everything were just hurting so badly like inside my body like inside my bones. And I had to temperature for a few days and it was basically that for about two or three days and just wiped me out like I mean I couldn't do anything I could barely function I was so exhausted and low energy and this fever and then overnight it would just like couldn't sleep because I had to keep turning because my bones were hurting

49:18 And then it went away after a few days, but I still had trouble. After that for about a week, I was having real shallow breathing and I was noticing that it was kind of wheezing and just like... And I was still able to function, of course, but it was just weird. My partner she got as well for only a couple days. I had it a little bit worse than her. And I'm not saying it is in the sense of COVID. I don't know what the hell this was, but we were both kinda like you know, of course you have the moment did we get that thing you know and i don't know what it was but i kind of didn't just like anytime i'm sick i just stayed home and got over and i was fine and i feel totally fine now, make you said some people talk about that there are people who come away with whatever they're getting with long term.

49:58 Health effects and lung issues and things like that. I don't know. I don't know what exactly it is I still believe that there's definitely the probability that whatever it is, and however dangerous It ends up being now or maybe will become if dark winter is something about a viral release like they talk about smallpox in the original Dark Winter exercise but I still think either way that This leans towards being some sort of biological weapon. I think the evidence has come out for that even more so, and so even if it's only affecting small people in some ways or just getting rid of the weak and comorbidities in elderly, that still accomplishing the goal reducing population as well as locking down the population. So I don't know if I answered that

50:41 Well it's a difficult thing to answer because we can acknowledge that the PCR test is wrong, we can acknowledge that the hospitals were getting incentivized to write down COVID when it wasn't and we know these things inflate the numbers but then we are still stuck with by how much are they inflighting the numbers? What is the core danger that's out there and it is something people have to deal with when they are deciding if they want to meet a bunch of new people and organize against the technocracy because this is a third rail issue. And I think, if you really do a deep dive into germ theory versus terrain theory there are a lot of medical experts out there that are saying on a foundational fundamental level our concepts of our immune system

51:29 of viruses, of germs, of contagion. These things are somewhat flawed and because Rockefeller Medicine has dictated the education in the medical system at least of the Western world in the United States They have gotten a lot of things drilled into people's heads that might not necessarily be true and some of the things that i found interesting is that there's an argument that people say well when you get the flu or you get a cold, that is our body running a program to clear out are toxic load because we're dealing with all kinds of toxins in the modern environment.

52:08 think about that and it is curious that when you get sick, its generally your body aches so you don't want to move. You need to rest and then its your body expelling things whether from the mouth or the other side or the nose. Its sneezing! It's a runny nose! Its like all these...your body is pushing things out generally through mucus and other stuff which some people are saying are the carriers It's like a your body produces things that would be like a sponge that soak up the toxins and then expel them from your body and then rockefeller medicine makes. Pills to fight those symptoms to dry out your running nose will you need the running now is because it's taking the toxins out of your body so,

52:55 Obviously i'm not a medical expert but as i've listened to some of these people talk about this completely different paradigm. It starts to make a little more sense and maybe the flu is is not like some virus or something but it's just like a cycle that your body goes through when its toxic load reaches a certain level and, it's not like a lot of people can't be exposed to a toxin together But I'm a little more skeptical now of someone Who i'm in the room with flu like symptoms giving me flu like symptoms i don't know it's very strange and i guess i was listening to one of these health gurus and they said it kinda comes down to. Do you believe that you live in a hostel universe or friendly one and i know that simplistic but i think most of the problems that im worried about come from, delete rather than nature is strange but these are things i think people should at least be thinking about

53:59 Yeah, I agree. And I just want to add to that like so I've interviewed Dr Andrew Kaufman as well as the two authors of is everything you thought you knew about disease wrong? Like I'm sure I'm butchering the title. So I definitely have been exposed this information and one of the things that I found is I'm not so sure that it's germ theory versus terrain theory. In some ways, I feel like they complement each other. Like obviously, I know that Rockefeller Medicine has just taken us away from so much common sense about our own bodies and about how to take care of them and definitely down with that for sure understand that but I think in my mind it seems if terrain is describing your physical body and the terrain right? And if you have

54:42 whether you want to call them viruses or bacteria, or exosomes or whatever. If you have living things on you that exist in all of our environment and there's the capability for some of those to get us sick, maybe it's just even if your living dirty yourself so for example like staph can develop if your just dirty basically I've known a lot people in the past when I was using drugs like if you're using drugs and not showering sweating You can develop a staff infection right and to me that kind of is the whole terrain idea because it's specifically directly related to how clean you are the ideas at the staff. Virus or germ whatever name you want to give exist in lives inside of us already but most people have strong immune systems and

55:30 are generally clean, are never affected by it. But if you start to weaken your immune system say by using a lot of drugs and also not that clean then you can develop something like that so my point here is I feel like they kind of might not necessarily have to be that no germs or whatever names we want to give them exist And also that we should just ignore the role that clearly better health plays and are just being placed in again it doesn't make sense to me that just like we see a nature where the environment the natural environment both like the plants animals trees the soil,

56:05 is so interconnected that when something is off balance the animals are the plants or the soil at the environment will make changes to try to accommodate to bring things back into equilibrium and we're very much as you know part of nature and so it doesn't for me it wouldn't be so surprising to see like look our bodies are replicating natural systems in natural order that is playing out around us. Yeah definitely not closed off the idea and this whole thing I think for many of us has Allowed us to kind of revisit and i know that i definitely have never. Use my journalistic and research tools to dive so much into understanding science as I have over the last 10 or 11 months. You know, I've done research in videos and articles on like fluoride and how does that affect the brain? And vaccines in some of these other areas but like as a whole and kind of like revisiting the scientific method it's really been pretty awesome but at the same time insane that we have to even ask these questions because about backwards everything is

57:03 Yes i'm right there with you and i think that book your time is what really makes you ill by don lester and david parker exactly people interviewed yes i agree it's not in either or thing its probably like eighty twenty then or terrain theory comes first because if u are yourself up then less things can hurt you but, Something that people need to wrestle with when they're deciding how comfortable they are meeting new people and starting these communities because i think we kind of have to be a little bit fearless and it seems like there might be worse things out there then than covid nineteen if we let that, beer take hold us then we really will just act we asked you all this control measures n.

57:52 It is a really empowering thing when you even start to break through that foundation of germ theory with people like kaufman and don luster david parker even if you still leave the door open it's pretty empowering too. Take your health in your own hands to feel responsible for it but i can also be quite scary because then people have to really address some of the things they are doing living and a electromagnetic suit eating from the drive through like, if you really are gonna adopt this idea that the terrain is very very important and maybe more important than the germ then that's a lot of personal responsibility u also have to face.

58:34 Yeah absolutely i think that is a good point to make because i mean for me it ultimately all of these kind of things and whether we're talking about. The technocracy your freedom so you talk about your health that it all comes down the personal responsibility because they think the further we get away from personal responsibility easier it is for people too, Can i clamor for this is why we need government or read increase governor we need them in our lives because it feeds into that whole narrative. I mean i guess they were still children were not able to take care of ourselves and maybe some people are but i think many of us are perfectly capable taking care of ourselves and recognize that so the more that we live that,

59:11 And this again goes back to freedom cells and how you're gonna survive without the technocracy start taking personal responsibility for your life because when you do that when u realize it okay i've got food put away on growing food part of community gardener just learning skills on my own or, you know whatever it may be then you're coming from a place of empowerment as opposed to a place like scarcity mindset fear what am i gonna do if this happens no you started to get some plans and some. Resources for your family start to network with other people in your community and kind of have a plan how u guys can help each other things go a little bit around just start putting the pieces together when you have that experience which is just taking personal responsibility for your own life encouraging others to do the same

59:55 it's so much more of an empowering and strengthening experience as opposed to facing what we're facing now and feeling like i'm totally dependent or stuck on the system which some people are not necessarily by choice i recognize that. Some people have four one case in mortgages and three or four kids in a house and all those things that i don't have and so I'm just a different position i can kind of try to leverage my freedom to live the life that i want and try to you know it live in line with values but no matter what position your end i know for a fact that each of us can take steps whether they're small or large towards getting towards our goals and to be free from these systems very well said very well said.

1:00:40 i really appreciate your time and as were wrapping this up you know last time you did say we have two options hold down the fort or exit in build a new mentioned that, you have made that choice to exit and build your down there in mexico is that what operation underground railroad is attracting more people there i saw use that term but he didn't mention it earlier so i thought at least take a second to ask you what that was about. Yeah, I appreciate that brother and thank you again for having me back on. I really do respect your work and I appreciate how dedicated your audience is to to your content so i'm happy to be among the audience and to be a guest as well

1:01:19 Operation Underground Railroad is basically just the terminology that I'm using for, and I think I might have mentioned this last time that in the book How to Opt Out of the Technocratic State. In addition to talking about the ideas of exiting a building or holding down the fort, I also discussed that I believed eventually, I didn't realize how soon, there would be a need for kind of modern underground railroad to form again and clearly Clearly, for those who understand the Underground Railroad and the original one in the slavery days they were helping slaves escape from fugitive slave law and from just harsh treatment of course. And being owned by another human being not only to Canada but down to Mexico as well. So I started to think about not only what does it look like to be a free person? To be an agorist, the philosophy I promote with this

1:02:05 digital panopticon but how are people going to respond to it again some people will hold on the fort no building their communities and really try to keep awareness alive do what they can, some people exit to a more free area and build there but how do we connect those people you know what happens if somebody decides that they've been holding on for just not getting better or plans work out i need to get somewhere to one of these free communities that we've been talking about these networked with communities and operation underground railroad is kind of the beginning at the establishing of that and basically if anybody is interested in getting down to Mexico. I said this before the election to people like hey, we did a one successful caravan so far me my partner went back to Houston we had people coming from all around the US we ended up with like a six-car caravan

1:02:52 they met in houston and we help them get to the border of them get across the border which can be confusing if you never driven across and if you don't speak spanish It can be confusing and just you know it so we help them with that process and then from there people kind of go their different ways some people have their own plans or friends or family the visiting and others, follow us down to where we are in the city that were in and we've kinda helped them find their own houses apartments to be in weather summer gonna be here for maybe a couple weeks while they're watching what potentially might happen with all this dark winter talk. Others are thinking more long term and kinda Looking to find their own land or property and then some of them are people that we're actively working with to build a community with so yeah that's what were calling operation underground railroad in anybody is interested in the email is o p u r. Add proton mail dot com and we have definitely just like with freedom cells been getting a resurgence interest in this and sell

1:03:48 We're hoping to do another caravan probably towards the end of the year and just help some more people come down who want to come down. And yeah, so it's an exciting time man I'm just trying to do what i can to help other people with all this going down just in case something does get dicey you know? And yourself and anybody that you know and love and trust are definitely welcome to come take a vacation or short trip down to Mexico if it feels like the time Very cool. I'm not far from the border, so I might take you up on that just to see what's going on down there and take a break from it all but So many guests have talked about this big fork in the road that we are faced with and so many of us focus on where The Elite want to take us and we forget to focus on where we can go ourselves

1:04:39 We're very lucky to have you out there fighting the good fight providing the rest of us with a lot of good resources to share with our unconventional friends and family and showing us, the way to life outside the system. Of course TheConsciousResistance.com is the central hub anything else to leave them with link wise? Just FreedomSells.org definitely if people want check out freedom cells and other than that yeah TheConsciousResistance.com man thank you again Awesome and thank you. You are the man I appreciate it and take care out there Thank you, brother All right guys how about that Derek bros back so soon cool guy? I'm lucky to know him And I'm happy to hear that he's still getting feedback from this audience from his last appearance I thought we had a good time then and he's churning out so much good stuff now It was definitely enough to talk about

1:05:35 Truth is, I've gotten a really surprising amount of emails over the last three or four weeks asking me what my election coverage would be. And i find that kind of strange like what else is there to really say it? It's what it is but some people really do just get their news through a lot of our guests from what I'm told So I thought, well if i'm gonna have anyone here to really focus on the election let's go with Dr. Joseph Farrell so we booked a show for a week after election night because I figured it would take that long for there really to be anything significant to talk about which was largely true

1:06:17 But he had to pull out at the last minute, and I was planning to hit up Derek for another go anyway. So...I think it lined up pretty well, I think! And Derek was great about helping me out on short notice. Though I did end up rescheduling with Dr. Farrell just a couple days later so i'll roll that one out next What's nice to hear a bit more about freedom cells some people who wrote in after the last time derrick was here were pretty vocal about that resource being, huge help them and finding local groups and they wish it would've got more airtime so it was nice to hear that from them and also be able to comply with that request.

1:06:58 But Derek is just a really solid researcher. He's meticulous, he doesn't just run with things... He considers it very important to be accurate! I consider him a champion of the New Guard when it comes to alternative or true journalism, I guess we should just say? He's right up there with Whitney Webb and the dude who runs The Last American Vagabond in fact they are all friends and I want to be their friends too right?! But you know around here I definitely love me some over-the-top sensationalism now and then. Just like humor, sometimes you go too far but there's still truth in there and it's entertaining... And it's just maybe something that jives with my personality

1:07:44 But right now, especially we also really need respectable journalists that are fearless and focused on looking forward towards solutions and making really great arguments with their data and their research. I mean if Derrick Brose is talking about quarantine camps...I take it a bit more seriously than if say Alex Jones is so little bit intense But this is also the first mention of Ticketmaster requiring a COVID vaccine confirmation to go to concerts. And it's the first open signal that this compliance is going to come through companies that we want to do business with, or for some people work at. The government per se isn't policing individuals they're just telling businesses hey do this and this and this or we'll shut you down

1:08:37 We're gonna see these big monopolistic corporations making those first moves because I can't imagine mom and pop shops can afford to make such demands after a year of business barely trickling in as it is. I don't know if they're really looking to limit their customers just the vaccinated, maybe they are? I'm sure it varies. Fear does crazy things to people But yeah, you know I have kind of gone back and forth on COVID coverage around here. There's been times where i've looked at the guests we've had and the research that's been presented and thought well what more do we need to say? I don't want to beat a dead horse and there were times in the summer where at least In my circle it didn't seem that big of a deal

1:09:29 and I expressed not wanting to just drive it all right into the ground and make sure we have plenty of non-COVID related shows as well. But now, I'm sensing a real level change to this stuff and it might require us focusing on it a bit more hopefully from several different angles. I can never control what a guest says but I am being pretty careful with my selections It just seems like the stakes are too high to be quiet. We should focus on the solutions side of things and reiterate why people shouldn't freak out too much, but we need good resources and good arguments so that we can bring more of the people we love to our side of the fence."

1:10:12 Talking to David Icke might not do that right now, although it's good for my numbers and as much as i love the guy. Try approaching a non-conspiratorial person with, David Icke made a good point the other day about COVID19 you know he's burnt! He's only speaking to The Converted although he does it quite well but Derek might be a resource for you that people will respond to. I'm trying to be strategic that's all and give you good tools So add the conscious resistance to your daily reads if you haven't already. Share their articles, they are high quality! In higher side news I'm going to have company here for Thanksgiving week and i have a show to record and I have one more to get out this month so I'm not sure I'll get a joint session done until a few days after my guests leave it might be the first week of December rather than the last week of November

1:11:08 But that's good because if you remember back in the early days of the show, I used to have a voicemail set up and i'd play calls before an episode. Well, I brought that voicemail back for the joint sessions! Now we can break it up a little bit. It's not just me reading a bunch of stuff listeners can contribute and do it on their own time when they feel comfortable You can find the voicemail on the bottom of any page on the THC website or just go to the higher side chats dot com slash voicemail. I think it's going to add a lot to these joint sessions because I really liked those old messages. It's way better if it's you guys talking and not just me, so if the forum isn't your style maybe the voicemail is help me out let's throw some content in there So I have some good things to pull from and we'll have some fun

1:11:58 If you're missing the joint session episodes, they're a good time. And there are more THC news and listener-focused casual inner circle bonus shows and if you're a fan I think they're interesting become a plus member and they can be all yours but the main reason of course to become a plus member is to get that second hour of these here interviews In today's, I talk to Derek about where we're seeing the strictest controls on the planet right now and what to watch for when it comes to those things coming into where we live. The importance of the years 2025 and 2030. Derek's thoughts on what truly motivates the Predator class UFOs, ether physics Tesla technology and building back better for real? The Vatican sex trial happening right now

1:12:51 A recent international report on Bill Gates. Kratom? You know, people have written to say that THC was a big part of their recovery from pretty harsh drugs which is crazy and I'm happy that's true. Kratom seems to be a resource for people in that situation so we wanted to give it a little bit of time And then of course we talked about the recent YouTube purge and some of the new alternatives out there And in that section I was trying to articulate the difficulty in building up these alternatives to YouTube because it's only the controversial creators which makes a controversial community. Because there is just no need to put up videos like The Mandalorian Season Finale Explained or musical cover songs, or Top 10 Taco Stands In San Diego! Those things are fun and I watch videos like that

1:13:47 but they aren't going to get kicked off YouTube. They actually contribute to the cultivating of that more general audience that these alternatives are gonna have a tough time attracting, and if they don't attract a more general audience then we are just preaching to the already converted counterculture you know what I mean? That is the issue with things like BitChute and Parler In fact every alternative quickly gets a bad reputation as an alt right place or extreme place and yes that is propaganda, add is damage control from the big machine and trying to ruin the reputations of thousands of creators making millions videos with that simple dismissal but it is going to be a challenge.

1:14:38 Well, heavy stuff today but I hope you guys had an alright time. We try to keep it positive it's just hard! It's hard to be positive and also honest about what is going on out there so...I think its time to really start preparing for the road ahead and not just listening to provocative interviews these aren't just theories anymore that are pretty high stakes stuff I hope you're all taking good care of the people around you and being the calm in the storm. Until next time, i've done my part Your move freedom and sisters and quarantine camp resistors your fucking moon Well they tie that yellow ribbon round the oak tree All the prayer in there all along Thought they were rooting for the home team As their sent to the game and torn apart

1:15:35 We twist this tourniquet upon the pipeline That it carries all the pain and wounds As we blindly clap and cheer from the sidelines It's clear on Ozen Street from the restart And that's where they found the last cemetery A smoking gun in my hand down for THC The hurricane screams

1:16:25 They took that faded ribbon off the oak tree, poured out all hope in their hearts. I long thought i was doing well while lying in a pool of my blood and that's where they found me In the cemetery A smoking gun in mine The land of the free Sing with me And thats where they found me In the cemetery

1:17:14 A smoking gun in my hand Now I'm down from the land of THC The Americans scream And that's where they pound my cemetery A smoking gun down from the land of me The Americans scream