David Icke | The Road Map: Alt Media Agents, The American Technate, & The Reptilians

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01:09 Where would we be without THC? Cause we know they're lying to us, just don't know. Where would we be without THC? The higher side chats show Greg Carlewood and company Serenity now, Hireside Chatters. Doing the thing from the Sunshine State! I'm Greg Carlwood and it feels to me like the SS Earth is intentionally being steered right into a cosmic iceberg We can all see it but have little power to change course And those who do have their hands on the wheel assure us that everything is fine when we can clearly see that It isn't and those with their hands on the wheel are they themselves only following orders from those above them who have charted this course decades in advance

01:59 Because as today's powerhouse guest David Icke has been saying almost as long as i've been alive, we are individual points of infinite consciousness having a human experience and a hijacked reality overlaid with the plasma matrix run by a cult of lieutenants in the Archon Army tasked with generating low vibrational energy on a planetary scale on which these archons feed. It seems the name of the game is controlling man's perception, behavior and attention and ensuring that we're all too distracted and stressed to seek true gnosis or reflect upon our true nature. Well although he has never hurt anyone, never advocated for violence, opposes every war and simply encourages everyone to seek freedom and find their own way

02:39 This is the core of the message that has gotten David Icke banned from over 30 countries, while trendy influencers with ties to the cult itself are given algorithmic support to co-opt and massage David's message into something the cult can tolerate. Today he is back to talk about The State Of Our Chaotic World in his new book The Roadmap which clocks in at nearly a thousand pages It's an updated and expanded version of his 1998 classic, The Biggest Secret with all the benefits of 30 added years of study and full-time dot connecting. You can also find him on his very own streaming platform at iconic.com

03:14 It is the fourth time he's done the dance with me and I couldn't be more honored to get into it. He doesn't kiss the ring or the wall, The Loosh Farm Educator Big Cult Critic and true godfather of modern conspiracy culture David welcome back! Thank you i'm gonna quit while i'm ahead Greg I And we have these situations where we see videos of people on the street that seem to be cheering. One side says, oh they're cheering for their liberation from an oppressive regime and then other people say actually they're saying that now you've killed their religious leader they are vowing vengeance. We just have all this mixed messages The Strait of Hormuz drama The thing with maybe taking Cuba

04:18 And I know a lot of this is designed to steal our attention and leave us stressed and confused, but in a practical sense talk to us about the things you actually see going on right now. It seems like you expect this whole thing to kind of land on a lockdown 2.0 scenario with energy conservation policies and limits on gas and oil and all that kinda stuff is that right? Well the potential for all that is obvious and you know what i've been saying all these years. And unfortunately great chunks of the so called alternative media that which gets all the algorithmic support like just said they don't, get this level and without that u can get anything basically and thats the level that it's coming from

05:17 You see if you fall for the left and right in politics if you fall for christianity against islam. Against hinduism all that others your saying us and then your seeing different factions, ultimately are controlled by the same force the same source Now that doesn't mean all christians or muslims or hindus the left and right are themselves individually controlled by this force. But the structure in which they operate in the structure within which they perceive reality is control by this force let's look at it this way you want to know if they tell us a billion people okay

06:20 And the number of people in full knowledge who are manipulating that eight billion is tiny it is ludicrously. Tiny compared with a billion so you ask how do we the few the very few, as well what's up by the way throughout history if u always control to many how did they do it well first of all If you are looking mathematically at the few and a billion it should be impossible if you should not be able to control the world and i hear constantly over the last thirty six years have been on this road. A few people can't control the well that's ridiculous as impossible already just hold on a second, the actions okay so we officially but the actions of two people

07:24 Donald trump and benjamin netanyahu are now affecting potentially every man woman and child on planet earth, two people so obviously it is possible for a few to control the world but how do you do it well as many things involved what is the key ones first of all if your face with eight billion people in unity. Who know what you're doing and no u exist in your manipulating from the background, the people they think are in control if there any unity. And their informed of your existence you have got no freaking chance it's over so two things first of all. You have to hide what you're doing and you have to put your front man women in the public eye

08:26 Who you need the population to believe are actually making the decisions running the show people like trump and net yahoo when all these others star in britain. Go first yeah go first i just got this but then do you have to break up the unity of the target population and you do that by breaking them into rigid unquestioning belief systems These are political belief systems these are religious believe system is our cultural belief systems and i said so many times over the years great that if they don't care. What you believe as long as you believe it rigidly and exclusion of all other possibility yes i know how to resolve that

09:22 You are in a perceptual box that put you in a perceptual box it doesn't matter if your muslim or christian or. I'm not gonna progressive whatever you're in the box and what these boxes do and no people talk about religion but my father use to talk about bricks and mortar religion you know temples and synagogues churches and stuff, what religion is a mentality And it's not confined only to bricks and mortar religion for instance if you break down orthodox science which is very anti religion, you find that it works in exactly the same way as religion does a new breakdown political ideologies and they work exactly the same as. Religion does its mentality

10:20 That mentality says this is what i believe and it's a moveable and i ain't going anywhere beyond this belief system. Because if i do that no longer whatever i call myself if i go, more towards the right then i'm no longer lefty but got bit more to the left on no longer amaga if i open my mind to other possibilities be on my religious belief system I'm no longer what i call myself what i believe and also im. Immediately being accused of dabbling in the occult because i am going outside of the religious boundaries and into other areas possibility,

11:10 Now what does a call me it means hidden its hidden knowledge and hidden knowledge can be used grotesque. I need is or it can be used to set us free is not the knowledge how you use it and then you look at science, i'm sciences original orthodox science is a rigid belief system this is our age that's it if you go beyond date I'm star looking at other possibilities when you are a pseudo scientist or dabbling in the paranormal so basically all these police system what the same in that they are there to hold you, no believe system that stops exploring beyond the belief system. That then provides the most magnificent environment for the most essential

12:09 elements of the few controlling the many which is divided role. Should play the belief systems off against each other you play science off against religion u play left off again right, you play culture off against culture religion off against religion and you set the target population that will with itself and so if you are looking at that level then the current situation in iran Basically becomes religiously christianity and judaism against islam yes i'm politically it's left again right so you got these. Builds in divisions and everything seems like

12:57 random in the sense of what's happening why is it doing this white why is he not ready knows the consequences you mean you didn't know that shut up straight up. I have all these consequences for energy supplies and food production me, what was she doing that confusing I wish you realize that trump's idiot can you can see the people of poland strings behind the scenes but thats the level we're looking at, in the mainstream media and most to be fair have your turn it made yet this central part of it gets all the algorithms. Yes and i just wanted to point out that it seems like while a lot of these new figures have come on the scene of the alt media and some emerges recycled from the traditional media like tucker carlson. They will do these interviews with tucker carlson's been stepping all over my territory interviewing guests that i've had on for the last decade

13:49 Funny enough, he hasn't called you up. But I just think the curious thing is that the message is like almost 80 90% there they act like they just stumbled upon it when you've been writing about it since the mid nineties but the commonality between Tucker Ian Carroll and Candace Owens is that they all cater to the Christian side one degree or another. I think Candace says she's Catholic and I think Ian Carroll says he is in line with God and the word of God. Maybe they don't say Christian exactly, but they definitely are kind of curating that kinda content and putting the Christian lens front-and-center whereas you say look that's another box! They're gonna use it against you and right now we are in a religious war I thought we were past allot of this stuff but it definitely is being framed that way they're saying that allot these elite are trying to manifest revelations

14:46 End time prophecy where they actually have to make israel the bad guy on the national stage that is real gets destroyed so the new temple get spilt it is all kind of, larkin crazy nonsense to me but we are also seen happen when you have these alternative voices saying most of what your same but also saying and we should be christian i mean thats kinda very important distinction. Well yeah u r absolutely right what they're saying is some of one side They're not saying anything anything like the totality of it and this is what i've been talking about, just finish that point in a really wanna get into what you just said the point about the fact that uc the chaos and random parent randomness and then what are they doing confusion at this level. What if you go to the next level into the shadows ultimately into another dimension but via this global cold when i talk about this

15:43 Global network of secret societies with an interlocking mission control what is happening now is exactly what they want it's not confusion to them its cold calculation because i have this phrase which goes you can only see whats coming if you know whats planned to come and if u don't know what's planned to come and where is all leading The world looks random and unexplainable and be wilder but if you know what's planned where we being taken suddenly the randomness becomes very clear stepping stones to that outcome so you look at.

16:28 The code period and that was basically a dry run a dry run all of how much will people acquiesce to what we tell them to do well vast vast overwhelming numbers just act we asked it. Will they have the job if we tell me it will save from the virus that would never proven exists and so on but now you know in those days, you had the dynamic that the government and authority was telling you what to do what they're moving to here now is. Circumstances stop you doing what they don't want you to do if u look at basically society in how it functions, it functions on energy supplies of energy and all its different forms it functions on the

17:30 Population i have enough to eat so if you can target the very foundations on which society depends, your going to destroy a society now what i was saying about trump through his election campaign and got enormous abuse for it. What's that he was a cult operative he was a global list for one of the term call operatives who is put forward to tell the target population all. What is known as maga you know people who were skeptical many things are happening in the world, could tell them what they wanted here

18:17 So they got him into power i'm once into power said you do two things first of all he'll follow the cold agenda. Whatever they tell me to do and secondly he will facilitate, the other point of the agenda real points of the gender which is a digital control system including the fusion of AI and humans show that i becomes the human mind it becomes the human thinking process is under gave up and we talked about this now so when you got in, all these people you mentioned these influences many of which came out of the as you rightly say out of the mainstream.

19:07 They were like oh no he's not doing what we thought you would do well i've been calling trump out since twenty sixteen for what is. It's not difficult they say all know when i realize control by israel will have a look at the first time man, how much it is history with roy cohn and massive Zionist connections to his life and father fred's like is far the friend was a close may of benjamin netanyahu when he was. Israeli ambassador to the u n ya red kushner now trump son in law has no netanyahu is entire life cuz charles, who went to jail and was pardoned by trump is now that

19:52 US ambassador to france he was a long time again of benjamin netanyahu and now trump in netanyahu together you got jared kushner. Doing the fake negotiations that were always gonna lead to war with iran i mean u don't have to do much research, choose see that trump was always owned by the zionist cabal which itself is on by the cold. I know this thing we never knew and i look at these influences some of what you mentioned that. You can add joe rogan to the house he want talk to me just like carlson, you don't say what's going on well this is what's going so you are this cult serving this non human force in another dimension of reality. And u look at cove it and use think okay well we had to do it

20:51 Because it was part of our agenda far of us sequence know the outcome and you'll see the journey is i constantly said what is done, it's welcome a lot people are to the fact that. What they just missed before there is some kind of conspiracy going on actually saying that there is right so what do we do about this and how do we pull these skeptics now back in the fold by thinking that they are opposing us but actually all. Supporting the direction we wanna take society is where to get them on board with a i for start so then you ask what who were they listening to, weather getting their information from two kinda start to wake up well they're not getting it they would say

21:52 From the mainstream media which we are they have contempt for that so we can't do it that way. So where is getting information from well i get never information from this, this alternative media did cause itself independent media that's what they're getting it from okay, we have to get involved in that we have to invite big time right you move your people and of course What we have now is control by algorithm so i have a hundred and twenty two thousand people follow my page on x. The number of people actually see what i post, is tiny compared with that eight hundred twenty two thousand people always tell me never see your post after go to the page was it seem and then you got as u right point out you got these people who came in

22:54 Yeah and carols in your can they sell winds in your taco call since i'm joe rogan brussel brand. They were all trump is so they work campaigning for trump and massively help alex jones another one to get me like it, show you over the line the jobs done he's been easy as in official official power not real power but official and then they suddenly start Turning against him but i don't matter now cuz he's in and so.

23:31 You then look at the fact that you quite right make make the point the vast overwhelming number of these people are controlled by their christian belief system talk a call since is. Candies is it going to use she's a roman catholic and she say, add russell brands been had his baptism into christianity in all that stuff there isn't a common theme that too what they doing I would make this point to it's not always easy to see which but some of them will know exactly what they doing, why don't have to pay just have to be given. They just had to have a certain belief system i have to have a massive algorithmic support and promotion and do what you wanna do anyway so what is that ok if u

24:28 Looking at the situation in the wake up that happened as a result of covid not everybody of course but in larger numbers and i don't have seen then you say well, the jenny's out the bottle of it in it. What we're gonna be able to put the genie totally back now because people are saying there is no conspiracy what we need to do is hold the line all the lines here and know further Show you bring these people in and they are focused almost entirely on politics. And there is a conspiracy yeah there is we never thought before but there is

25:16 What is the politics so now you focus is on your trump senior harris's in just a moment all these people and yet netanyahu. But it's not going to another form of what i just talked about another fall off belief system underpin by the christian belief system limitation of stop she going further, That's what's happening is called the window you over to the window for people come across that is that area. All of acceptable debate within a society be on which you read the mad or bad dangerous,

25:58 And as a cold as a manipulative force you want to control the two polarities. Of the over to window you wanna control those who are for what u want and you wanna control those who were against what you want or at least speak again so you won't because then you can troll the game Yeah you know it as i said so many times if you gonna control a football match. You wanna control both sides and the referees never controlling one side, your influence to match me want no what's going to be before the game starts. Do that you need to control both sides and the referee and then u. Then introduce Elon musk musk

26:42 Is a con man he is a call to and he is a frontman for these companies not really running them i mean i quote someone in the road map who's a former. Employee quite high employee actually at tesla who says they only ever saw him once a fortnight but test love he's not, running those company sees fronting amok He told rogan once it was a road and he told someone what's the interview that you did that he was spent between sixty eighty percent of his time doing engineering. And development what is it because she doesn't have any friends most of this time if most of its really him,

27:31 On x posting like machine gun fire is endlessly doing interviews and all the other things that he does not running those companies selling up running space x i'm new kid in these are run by. Other people for common reasons so i been tracking must for a very long time yes, cuz i could say he was a man and i was just keep on bloody good i am. And then it was announced that he was gonna buy twitter and i thought this is a scam so let's have a look at what form the scam takes what did you take long because. The story wasn't there all stories great their old stories to hold your attention and manipulate your perception of reality just stories so the store was that

28:29 Musk is a free speech absolute is that's the absolute joke i talk about having a sense of humor to claim that. He was buying twitter because he wanted free speech okay so, he said that the deep state basically was controlling twisted before what was bloody obvious and release these so called twitter files to release Documents and emails confirming that the deep state was controlling what could be posted on twitter and couldn't so you know ok, so what's your saying mr musk is the deep state control twitter. Before you talk it over yet oh yeah so why did they bloody sell it to you then

29:26 What's the need to add not this is the other thing you know people say all must watch what's up. Well officially yes but there was a lot of other of the usual suspects who have absolute contempt for freedom speech will also bought it with ya, people like saudi princes for instance love freedom of speech larry ellison and all these other characters so anyway before he bought it A lot of the alternative media had been skeptical of the blog they were saying no this place a transhumanist he wants to use humans with AI and all that stuff. The moment he bought twitter add allowed people back on it was suddenly one of us always great i love, all the questions about elon musk and his agenda that were asked before

30:27 When no longer being asked cuz now he's one of us but the game was given away when he. Appointed this world economic forum store what linda yakari know, i see ceo twitter that became x and she said We believe in freedom of speech but not freedom of reach right what she saying is. You can say what you want to an extent if we don't like it then very few people are gonna see it is she was saying no money yeah exactly when she says, if its awful but lawful

31:13 All lawful but awful you're going to struggle to find it on x shadow banning exactly what should i buy those that are saying things that. Those that control these days this these people don't want people to say yes, bots and this is the significance of some other people you mentioned. Massively boosting those that are saying things that they do want you people to say and so what i've been doing is orchestrating the window. I watched an interview with tucker carlson it was from march twenty twenty five and he's interviewing steve wick.

32:01 Now see what coffee along with your it could not both of them all trust i am in this incursion is case ultra ultra sign yes they can. Did on trump's say so well you told trump to say so, these negotiations for a peace deal with the red that absolutely will never going to produce any results because the people that i don't wake up and i'm cushman israel, wanted a wall so that they are not gonna go in there and find a way of avoiding more but this interview with carlson.

32:48 First of all the first fifty two seconds of call since intro to wake up was was basically past the sick bag saying what an honest man he wants and all this stuff i mean that's a last thing ever was. There was another point in the chat where calls and said it talks about no this is not another child with a guy called red wine stain user, come out now wearing suddenly everywhere but the cover story many of these people is not trump no no trumps not doing it he's just been badly advised oh yeah what you mean is an idiot and so he says carlson that there are people advising him who have a really bad track record, i'm calling things.

33:35 You go well get a mirror this is the guy who's whole record. Is of bad calling things in terms of calls and he was a supporter at the time, all the invasion of iraq which was the most obvious scam to anyone without brain cell on active duty right then you support trump into office and then go what's happening i need also said In the last few days that it's good that jd vance employs his son by the way carlson sun that jd vance is going to hold negotiations with iran because. Vance is an honest and credible man you like what are you talking about however no,

34:28 Calls in owens carol all these people they are the opposition to what the cold ones, they control the window as a result. While you were talking about Elon, you know your phrase came to mind. You can only see what's coming if you know it's planned to come and in the book you talk about the tech Nate and I think Elon really does get talked about too much he gets too much mental real estate out there but this is so important this came from your book To quote the book, Musk's grandfather Joshua Heidelman and his Technocracy Inc. sought to overthrow elected democratic government in the U.S. and Canada and replace it with appointed technocrats and bureaucrats. Hmm sounds familiar! A Technocracy Inc publication in 1938 stated that TechNate will encompass the entire American continent from Panama to the North Pole because of natural resources

35:24 And the natural boundary of this area, make it an independent self-sustaining geographical unit. The proposed tech Nate spanning from Venezuela in the North of South America up through Panama central America and Mexico to include Canada and Greenland. We see why Trump, Musk and their fellow billionaires seek to take over Panama Greenland and absorb Canada as the 51st state. Greenland is currently owned by Denmark and Trump picked as his ambassador to Denmark another member of the Peter Thiel circle can Howery who established with Teal the venture capital founders fund how are we a friend of musk was ambassador to next door Sweden in Trump's first term.

36:06 They always play the long game coordinated by the astral archons. I will pull up the map they envisioned 90 years ago, but talk to us about this a little bit more it seems so lofty and a lot of it is kind of just talk, but this talk that people think is random and just off the top of Trump's head, it's not random. It goes back to Elon's grandfather who I believe was arrested for Trying to do this, it was seen as subversive to the established order. And now years later his grandson is basically like no we need this. So I'll pull up the map while you talk about it here a little bit. Well Joshua Holderman who operated out of Canada and supported Adolf Hitler and was arrested at one point in Canada he after the war in the early fifties up sticks and move to

37:02 South africa and the reason he moved there is i explain in the book was because of a part time, you supported apartheid so did his wife and then may must was born that daughter who gave birth. To elon musk and be interesting real topical update greg in all this is the speech that Pete headset the so called secretary of war now made in which he talked about the greater north america and he described a land acquisition and absorption basically by the united states that marriage.

37:54 The map of the tech night by joshua holderman and the other. Crowd in a technocracy inc operation in the nineteen thirties so, the idea is i've been writing about this since the nineteen nineties is ultimately to have a world government which would not be elected it would be selected bureaucrats technocrats experts and by the way for people haven't come across a that's what technology means, techno crazy is appointed governments not elected government. I'm what they've been doing because it played along game minutes no coming from the characters that we say, scummy from here is coming from me deep in the shadows ultimately another dimension

38:45 I'm there for that playing the long game calculating this over a long period of what we call time and dust. These politicians are here today in may they'll push it on a little bit in their little period and then others will replace them don't push you on a little bit but its all orchestrated from here so, plan for a world government of technocrats appointees not elected people. I'm under the world government would be a series of super states around the world which this greater north america tech night, what do you want to them that's the whole way that it's all been planned and then they want to break countries up

39:39 into regions that are powerless against the central dictatorship of the world government to the tech night super states and under that edifice of. Control would be there the population will be the people and what we are having potentially now is that the withdrawal all energy supplies, Quite potentially food supplies around the world is offering the input us. What are the great parts of this agenda which is preventing people moving, we don't talk about fifteen minutes cities and i've written about these at some length over the years where they want to break up cities into

40:38 little and play the little communities where everything you need so they say people like the world economic forum. Will be within fifteen minutes walk or fifty minute cycle ride from your home and that you will have number plate cameras just stop you even if you have a car by then, from leaving that area without permission And so let's look at the potential outcome of this tremendous reduction in global. Fuel supplies alone never mind everything else that is used for and made friends things are made from it you're not gonna be able to drive your bloody car if you don't have fuel to make it work

41:35 And i mean people say oh yeah but what about electric cars all yeah when you think electricity comes from overwhelmingly still come from these fuels ultimately so you have the potential like a set earlier to go from we are telling you you have to look down too. You got no choice because you can't go anywhere cuz there's not the fuel and they're already talking in places that we talk to talking in britain. And why do a field of limiting the access to your to try and save supplies which will mean that, where going back just things like working from home too

42:25 Not being able to travel not being able to move i mean you know they don't want people flying everywhere yeah look at what's going on with air travel for our way to get through tsa me hear that on the news and nobody is booking flights anywhere just don't wanna deal with it unless u really must for some reason but crashed planes and then also these huge weights. Is really crazy this is a thing great if you look even before this, Situation with the fuel supplies massive advancing it you look at. The wall on travel and the war on the private car u have, as you say what's happening in the airports which is a real disincentive to go anywhere and then you have

43:23 The war on driving on motorists in this country. The labor government which is the basically the equivalent of your democrats and the labor councils that run the urban areas they have, been introducing twenty mile an hour speed limits in the cities i went to london there's a I'm mad at a cold sunny con who's doing everything the cult wants and it's like dystopia my, you're driving along and this cameras everywhere picking up your speed and people are being done for like twenty four miles an hour. It's like a dystopian is like a sci fi movie

44:12 Where everyone's going really slow even though there is no cars in front of them like you know because they, if you go any faster that get there get there get find and lose their license but if they're. There are a driver for living now lose the job right Right big brother is watching and another thing i heard about this is there actually looking to in the next couple of years of cars add a i two the cars where they can algorithmically determine if you're sober driver or distracted driver So if the computer inside the car says, I think he's had one drink too many. Or I think they're looking at their phone too much. The car will just stop for you and all in the name of safety, of course, but this is crazy. It's like a breathalyzer and everyone's car. Not that I want drunk people driving around, but you know, this is how they justify more control in your life. So I wanted to cut in here because we are at our second hour transition. And we've talked a lot about the

45:07 people involved, and I do want to get beyond the gopher level in this second hour and make it a bit weirder. But let me slide this into the first so. We talked about at the beginning, how your new book, the roadmap is an updated version of the big secret. And when it comes to like little details that I never hear anywhere else that are new, this is something I wanted to make sure we threw in. So I love your work that you've done on the cult worship of Saturn and the Saturn moon matrix. And I assume some of what you've added is this overlap with the electric universe researchers and the work that's been done on plasma over the last 30 years.

45:42 I think I learned about the hexagon storm at Saturn's North pole from you years ago, as well as the eye formation at the South pole. But this part has to be new. You write graphene has been theorized since 1947 became a reality in 2004 and today it's used in semiconductors electronics and electric batteries among much else of course, the vaccine all that stuff Its atoms are arranged as a hexagon honeycomb. If the hexagon represents the frequency of Saturn, does this mean that graphene in the body connects people with this frequency? This would make sense with my contention that Saturn is broadcasting low frequencies to Earth amplified by technology within the Moon.

46:25 Graphene and its derivative graphene oxide appears black because it absorbs all visible light wavelengths and is phenomenally strong the strongest metal ever measured on a microscopic scale. Black is the color associated with saturn most significantly, it is a tremendous conductor of electricity an even a superconductor man so Yeah we can pick apart the new alternative media and elon musk in all that stuff some people are talking about that no one is talking about this to me that is a huge hit with the saturn symbolism. Matrix that seems to touch almost everything graphene hexagon shape the color i feel like thats really strong here well thing is it people don't realize,

47:13 How much satin symbolism is all around them i mean the judaistic god of satin is called l and is symbolized as a cube. And another symbol of satin black. Right you have the classic symbol of saturn which is the star of david that's an ancient symbol of satan, And the name ross child actually comes from that symbol. They rothschild's in the days of may i am still ross child who started that ross child banking financial dynasty in germany and frankfurt. They lived in a house in frankfurt that had a red star david on on the house, end in their name was bauer they were middle ages family called power they were an account family actually

48:18 And they then change their name to ross child which in german is red shield, which is the star of david so it was a symbol of saturn and spawned the very name ross child the ross child stand funded. enormously funded the movement of people out of germany after the second world war and did before. Into palestine now we have the flag all israel is there, this star david the under the star david is not unique jewish symbol you can find everyone in a bit to japan few times to speak

49:07 And all around the japanese temple you see things like swastikas and stuff in asia uc the star of david symbol and so, it's not unique to jewish people that it's a symbol of saturn. I'm if you look at all these different religions and secret societies. Saturn symbolism comes up again and again what are the things that i point out in the road map when appointed on previous books is how the signal of saturn as it's cold is the whole basis all three masonic compass symbol. They are the same and if you look at the logo for bell moral in scotland which is, what is that homes many homes of the british royal family it's the single of saturn it's not

50:08 A little bit like it is a right so everywhere you can look you see these symbols of saturn and i pass through. The years the decades i'm not sad in a dark room and come to these conclusions it's been done from hard research as well, people who have you know they don't go into the east at all What day have concluded that the rings of saturn on not natural that they have been created yes yes there's another big thing i wanna ask you about because that guy in particular. I almost interviewed be was already into his nineties and he passed in twenty eighteen but just to add to the thing is set about the rothschilds and the red shield like this is conspiracy one oh one

51:04 Heard this many times that they were the Bowers. Then they became the Rothschilds Red Shield. Well, just to tie this back to Candace. So Candice Owens we know she married this guy George farmer in a very strange circumstance. She met him a time like maybe one time and then 17 days later he proposed over FaceTime and she said yes. Very strange arrangement. I don't know what that's about, but the farmer family as you talk about in the book goes way deep with the Rothschilds and This family has been a long time metals and commodity trading family including gold silver oil gas and copper his father was known as mr copper in the city of london financial district as you say so.

51:47 Then you have all these details about you know this company gets bought up by this company and then when was sold to the notorious n run for four hundred forty eight million and it goes on and we know it's all shell game with these people in their companies but i just found this super interesting so. Later this guy, Beth rolled Hoth child was sent to New York to establish the American metal company and the society lay Nicole of France. Which was founded by the Rothschild's and Candace is always talking about French influence will here it is. And then farmer co-founded a metals in trading investment firm in 2005 called The Red Kite Group and

52:29 Obviously you track the association with the rothschilds anyone trading commodities and metals at this level knows them. But if you're trying to rebrand like the red shield i mean a red kite a kite shape looks very much like a shield so i just found this funny and given the strange arrangement with candace i wonder if she'll ever start criticizing the rothschilds well the thing is that, You have michael farmer who's now can they sell his father in law you rightly say was called mr copper in the city of london is worth an absolute fortune, what he also one of the leading lights leading players in an organization that goes back many decades.

53:22 I'm has the monarch currently king charles as its patron and it's an organization specifically designed a designated. Choose christianity with judaism is yeah i need some and it is strange one that she marries into this family where this, vehement vehemence zionist father in law She marries his son and then starts having a go at israel now in twenty eighteen she traveled to jerusalem with charlie kirk, who attend the ceremony marking the movement of the us embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem on the say so trump. I'm gonna say so those that control trunk

54:24 And she posted on the internet a picture with her and charlie kirk saying that it was noted that there were no elected democrats at the ceremony. And basically america and the world won't forget that you know not supporting israel so she was a vehement pro israeli activist as she was a vehement kind of progressive activists before she. Suddenly turn to trump i became quote a conservative overnight then she marries into this zionist family of michael farmer, And start having to go israel i'm a.

55:09 Is the lot of things that are questions that should be asked but i'm being asked by enough people right and that's what tells me that the script change that's what tells me that. She was all in on zionism and then she married into a zionist elite family, end that signals to me that signal so the people in the know okay she is integrated now and then she goes on the offensive against israel which To those in the nose like okay that's allowed because clearly she is more connected than she ever has been through this marriage and when people tell me that. Israel has to be made out to be the bad guy so it can be wiped out so they can fulfill the prophecy this is it this is the leading influencer

55:56 Changing the story or at least going in this new direction. And where will that direction be in a year or two years from now, everybody in the world will probably hate Israel it'll probably get wiped out and their plan will be fulfilled or whatever's going on but it seems like that's a signal that the script change she is allowed to change her messaging. The thing about canada says she said such dramatic changes of what are opinions are both left to right and pro israel anti israel so on but the other thing is that there is a theme throughout her. Korea that she's been very much involved with ultra zionist people who are boosted her career and then she marries into this michael farmer family and then starts going against israel

56:54 And you know she is obviously close to taco carlson and together they are basically the two most algorithmic leave prominent quote influences. In what's become known as the alternative media and i do think i'm course in carol is close to canada so instead of fronted up a show when she's been away. So something doesn't absolutely feel right to say the least and then you have call someone talk to me you have, rogan want to talk to me cuz if i did it but talk to rogan then i bring my scott who sees my if i

57:37 Talk to the carlson i'd start questioning why he's so controlled by his religious belief when there is so much else beyond that. to be explored so it's like hold the line. No no i know what the line this is the conspiracy you know this is a business all there is and that's why keep saying to people, hey so can you say in a no israel controls trump but you have to ask the next question who controls israel When you watch the next question who controls that which controls israel yes we keep doing until you get to the absolute origin of it. It's not what people think it is that's true child said go for a

58:26 Powerful as they are there go for that yes right now this is a really great you are truly one of the best ever do it i'm honored to have these interviews with you i hope people out there can get beyond what's given to them by the algorithm and stay connected to what and who they find valuable. Tell me where to get more david in their lives if they feel so inclined well if we got a job at david dot com that's my website where does music context everyday, And is also i connect dot com which is a media platform video platform where there's documentaries galore enormous library of documentaries now, about all the subjects and many more we haven't talked about the nature reality all of it and new shows virtually everyday looking at events in the world as well.

59:19 Yes i love it spend a lot of time there so thanks again keep fighting the good fight and do take care. She is my all the best by. Alright friends how we doing just happy to be alive i hope after that recent bullshit about sending the country have ninety million people back to the stone age or saying a whole civilization will die tonight never to be brought back again, i mean now is yesterday I know that one of the major issues Trump supporters have with the Trump critics is that they take everything he says far too literally and seriously when he's really being cavalier, and speaking more hypothetically or off-the-cuff for conceptually whatever. I understand that but... That's a level that i can't recall seeing before letting 90 million people come home from work or school

1:00:14 and try to wind down after their day, and just hear a sitting president on the other side of the world with the biggest military at their disposal say that whole civilization will die tonight? And they're talking about you. For what?! There hasn't even been a good lie on this thing to make it make sense! There hasn't even been a false flag- nothing! I mean come one, you gotta sell it! It's truly crazy Every day it's something with this guy. Even the praise Allah on Easter was weird doesn't really bother me personally no surprise there, but it seems odd given the type of person he spent so much time courting and then I found out that Polly Market ran a bet for if he would praise Allah on Easter So that is when it all made sense to me touche Trump family touche

1:01:07 You know i'm always gonna take the chance to spend time with david like when i have it. What's really funny is the whole reason we did this follow up so soon as because in our last interview i brought up all the nick land cc are you demon summoning stuff that i learned about from isaac wise up and, no idea of a using us to build itself retroactively from the end of time And David at the time of that interview said something like, hey well funny you brought this up. That's a big part of my next book The Roadmap and I'll make sure you get a copy and we'll talk about it." To his credit that did happen but i didn't even bring that subject up because its not a very big part of the book maybe he didn't even say big part but he just referenced that the new book was in the works and that material would be in it

1:02:00 Maybe there was a better than that went on it is like nine hundred and eighty pages. And there is a chapter called accelerating the dark enlightenment which is in that wheelhouse but if focus is mainly on the acceleration as a philosophy, how its feeling the technocrats it's an important element of the whole thing but i think nick land is only mentioned twice ncc are you once and to me There's a lot more material there that is super interesting and deep far beyond just acceleration as i'm, but also don't know how much it matters in any guy can come up with any wild stories he wants the fact that he contacted something outside. Of the material reality probably is icing on that cake

1:02:55 But I haven't heard anyone really stick the landing when talking about how much influence this material and Nicklands philosophy has amongst the technocratic elite. Like, it might be in the wheelhouse but again anybody can say anything it's like is it truly influential? Does it truly have an impact and drive things? I don't know there's plenty of good material in The Roadmap clearly but...I think I had a different expectation built up because of that last interview and that one comment I do have something in the works on that though, i think as a solo show the things ive heard i just feel like yeah thats pretty good material to get into. And i guess ill just wait and do it on my own but when i do get david eich into saturn moon matrix talk i definitely try to milk it for all its worth

1:03:47 And it took us some time to get there sorry about that there was definitely a big chunk of time spent on those he calls the gopher's as well is all media figures obviously i came right out of the gate with hey let's talk about current events and the geopolitical analysis of this situation. And it kinda ran its course pretty quickly and we went into the other stuff that i know you're passionate about cuz when i look at his twitter feed, That's been going hard at is really the alt media figures and i do think he has a good reason to be. Kind of mad about it cuz it is actually very curious how they completely ignore him in black ball them but you think if alex jones is okay for the fifth time on a lot of these big shows then you would have david icon once maybe just all the christian stuff now ex Jones well,

1:04:38 Have this posturing like he's basically pro war and rah rah american military but you will say is christian. And i guess that's all the matters when it comes to, the preferred positioning of someone who's gonna talk conspiracy on a large platform. Does not about the views david would get clearly and its not about him not being popular enough a lot of these shows give nick fuentes more attention and it just be as weird me But their losses my gain i guess so as always if you like the first hour become a plus member for the full show again on this one we got really into the saturn talk in the plush show as well some obscure stuff like hijacking and impacting thought processes and the role of graphene and that how graphing is tied to saturn. Why the akashic record should really be called the arconic record,

1:05:32 We got into that work ring makers of saturn which is another solo show i should probably do. But quite a few other things and i do think david sweet spot is focusing on, those little threads like the graphing thing where you see all the symbolism and hexagon shape and it relating to saturn. And this just so unique no one's doing that that's what he should really make sure fits in all his interviews rather than how He was there before candace but anyway and higher side news i'm sure you heard my pre show announcement but i did something kinda crazy. Something all the subscription based business books would tell me not to do, and i removed the need for a credit card for a seven day free plus trial every marketing psychology guy with sam making a big mistake but hey

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1:07:20 What a good one to start on right so that's number four with david i can hardly believe this is my job. Very very lucky and speaking of me being lucky the last episode with aw finnegan about his book sleeper agent and ticks in bio warfare and his personal experiences, how was it hit that was there expected a 4 point seven I know some people have their minds made up about viruses and germ theory and they just can't buy any of that stuff whatever but bacteria is real venom is real plenty of things can jack you up and can be manipulated in a lab and all that are extracted from nature and then manipulate it

1:08:09 I've seen some recent videos of people shaking off hundreds of ticks from their jacket after a walk in the woods and up in the northeast basically. So if you think it's harmless, well go prove it because that shit is scary as hell to me. I didn't expect ticks to be one of my big fears but I'd rather run into an alligator tell you the truth also saw in the comments A shocking amount of plus people that were talking about actually dealing with line themselves for having close friends and family the deal one. One couple even talked about their experience getting alpha gale, and made some really good points about the difficulties that i never considered it's not just dietary you can no longer eat animal products but

1:08:57 Even medications and all sorts of supplements and vitamins just anything process likely contain some sort of. Something a bovine protein or somewhere animal thing in it, Just seems like a really hard condition to have and navigate living in this society with i empathize greatly. Maybe it's short of a dozen i didn't count but it seems like every other comment was about people, what personal connections to lime and i thought it was more rare than that to be honest but i love that interview overall great narrative great story glad it was well liked as i thought it would be asked for the meetup calendar let's look at the next events coming up

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1:11:20 No, there are lights in the sky Not found on it Creatures deep in the forest that no ranger has tagged There are things in the ocean you won't see from the land Life's under no obligation to make sure you understand I'm told the truth is out there When you get past the lies It comes when you least expect it And it wears a disguise, it'll tell you everything Just for goof Can't take any pictures Won't have any proof So I watch ya live Like he never wanted it

1:12:18 A lost soul that's forgotten what really haunted is But just let me say This is a horror approach to seizing the day There are things you can know That you can't even think No doctor has medicine like the shaman's next drink Sleep is never better Than inside of the dream

1:12:56 Who promised you anything would be as it seems I'm told the truth is out there When you get past the lies It comes when you least expect it And it wears a disguise It'll tell you everything, and ain't just for Can't take any pictures Won't have