Darren & Graham of Grimerica | The Vaccine Conspiracy, Homeschooling, & The Art Of Podcasting

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01:01 Alright, Hiresite Chatters. We should be well aware by now that through most of human history the power pyramid's capstone cabal has thought of us as little more than an exploitable resource. A resource trained from cradle to grave to arrive tired do what we're told break for lunch and come back to obey a little more only to line the pockets of the very same abusive fat cats who built this succubus of a system in the first place And if that wasn't enough to give us the eyes to see the world's oligarchs as they are, they've also been kind enough to repeatedly inform us of their desire and plan to reduce the population and cull the herd. Prince Philip has expressed interest in reincarnating as a deadly virus

01:39 The mysteriously erected Georgia Guidestones call for a reduction of the global population to 500 million, Bill Gates received roaring applause for a Bilderberg presentation about his foundation's contributions to fewer people and Prince William gave a speech about there being too many damn Africans just last November. So given this context why is it so hard for some people to wrap their heads around the idea that an elite who want us sick weak and fewer in numbers actually have plans to make that happen? Well, along with deadly pesticides on our food, toxic chemicals provided as our primary energy sources and a tainted water supply an ever-persistent campaign of ever increasing vaccination is also a major ingredient in the shadowy puppet master's satanic soup of social order. And today we're joined by two fellow podcasters who have made this ruination by vaccination one of their primary areas of focus lately

02:33 You probably know Darren Grimes and Graham Dunlop from their popular show, Gramerica where they've hosted many a romp down the rabbit hole with many great guests even being kind enough to have yours truly on back in 2014. It's long overdue but I'm happy to return the favor now so park your ass and pack your glass from the infamous Igloo itself, the conspiratorial case-cracking Canadian co-pilots of the SS Gramerica. My brothers from some other mothers blowing minds with their powers combined fellas how the hell are ya? Good buddy thanks for having a son yeah i think so much it's an honor to be here its worth just the intro exactly as a great into as always. Thanks thanks yeah it's a real treat to have you guys here i definitely love the show you put on we've shared a lot of fine guests over the years and i'm sure we all feel lucky just share the surface world with so many bright minds but,

03:25 I've had you guys on my list of guests to get for some time. I just tend to gravitate towards knowing an episode is going to have some kind of focus, so when Darren emailed me and said that he's been digging deep into the vaccine topic and really making it part of his repertoire, Great, a perfect catalyst to make it happen and here we are. And I'm sure we're going to end up all over the map but to kick this off Darren why vaccines? With over 200 episodes there's clearly a lot of threads on the conspiracy cardigan why prioritize this one You know it's kind of funny it was one of the subjects that we weren't really gonna get into in the beginning because, in the beginning we had this sort of idea that we didn't want to rock the boat too much and we didn't wanna get into too much personal stuff either at the same time. And back in I think is twenty thirteen we tried to do an episode where we did an episode with him so we did an episode with rapport great guy

04:21 Yeah we talked about vaccines then and we actually got some pushback and we didn't have a lot of listeners and we got some push back it was funny because three years later four years later we did the show that i did a rat just on intro because i had. Just watch the documentary again a docu series and kind of, i'd watch an episode and had me all riled up again so we didn't intro and i did around at this time i say we add Easily fifty times the list could even be a hundred times listeners that we had twenty thirteen and push back that we got was probably one tenth of the feedback so the feedback is now ninety percent was aligning with me and agreeing. What's my points and only ten percent was thinking i was fucking crazy but my whole journey happened because i had kids,

05:17 Six years ago i had my first kid and to be honest i should give my wife credit because if it wasn't for her, my kids would probably be vaccinated. I had my first we didn't have the podcast yet that wasn't really i was listening to podcast but i haven't really gone that far to get into the controversial side of things quite yet so i was just Blissfully unaware luckily my wife was already aware so she started mentioning some things which kinda got the gears turning and going in the beginning it was one of those choices that was made and no sings you know what you didn't really talk about too much can i even post a link on your facebook and get fucked.

06:01 You get attacked so you are even by people that are your friends because i get it i mean weather i don't know what is the me no maybe they vaccinated their kids and they don't want to feel bad for that i think anyone should feel bad for anything i mean thats. Kind of my main focus now is that i won't tell people whether or not they should vaccinate that's not, Me, I'm not a doctor. I've got no training. I'm just the guy who's read a bunch of books and spent a few years now chasing down and looking at it because what happens is that i start talking about it and then people ask me questions and if i can't answer the question then... Then you don't know what your talking about Exactly! So i just kind of especially over the last year or so i really just started compiling it all because i get more and more emails and i get more

06:49 Tweets or whatever people just asking are you know what do you think and i tend not to give advice because i think there's way too many variables. And I think that's part of the problem that medicine has cornered us into is this, that one size fits all medicine which i think we're going to find out over the next couple decades has been a huge mistake and that medicine needs to be highly specialized if not to the individual at least down to probably their cultural backgrounds. It's also been interesting timing with the culture and with publicity vaccines in California and there's a lot of forced vaccination kind of happening, and there is more research about the dangers out there. People are finding out more about the toxicity so I think your timing of your research is probably

07:37 very applicable to what's going on as well. Yeah, I mean it has gotten to the point that I'm starting to...I mean five or six years ago you were reading horror stories of what was coming and now here we are like literally only six years later and I am seeing it. Like I've got whereas before there was really nobody that I knew personally in my life that you know? And I'm not saying these people are affected by vaccines but people who tell me stuff about their kids lining up with a bunch of stuff that I've heard over the years. And this is stuff that points specifically, like kids going to see gastrointestinalists and I'm not gonna get into it too much but its you know the fact that I've got two or three instance of it

08:22 within six degrees of me now, through a friend of a friend or a co-worker of a friend or things like that is just I can literally see its prevalence starting to creep in. In my personal life. Yeah, I agree and it's unfortunate we have to deal with it and there's also something that happens. I'm curious how you guys feel about this as fellow conspiracy podcasters but there's this notion of responsibility and as your show grows You'll probably get emails from people saying it's very irresponsible for you to do a show on X Y or Z or to present these kind of sensationalist claims about these things and you know if I do a show about the flat earth and A couple people start becoming flat earthers, and they're convinced by the case. It doesn't really

09:05 hurt them at all you know i might make for an awkward thanksgiving but you know their life is pretty much the same now if i can vent some people through the gas that i have that vaccines are dangerous now we're getting into kind of an awkward territory for me and so i did some research as well because. I really wanted to feel okay feel comfortable with allowing guests to make the anti vaccine case n. No i'm good with it i definitely think there's way more here than there are for a lot of conspiracies. It just seems pretty clear we've had many whistleblowers suppressed, a lot of data suppressed you can actually get a lot of insight just from the data that isn't there that should be as you guys know but I'm curious has there been any awkwardness or repercussions for opting out of vaccines for you Darren in your kids lives?

09:56 What are my benefits i cared if they went to school but i mean school is never. It was kind of on the table but we were gonna home school for the first few years originally until they were eight i think it's really important to, truly watch who's taking care your kids or whose molding their personality up until around eight years old there's a lot of research that says by the time they're eighty personalities pretty well put together And then you know the more you look at it's just like i mean we're starting to see real data that homeschool kids and charter school kids in these kids are actually doing better now getting into secondary school things like that so once its started become apparent that generation of home-schooled kids not being able to get into college and things like that being off the table.

10:45 We just decided unless we get to the point where our kids say they wanna go to school. Where welcome home school in the entire time and i think that more people should really think that homeschooler if not home school i think that you know i think the whole government, tricking us into forcing us together the point where he had to have both parents working constantly and take care of the whole i think the whole daycare generation is gonna swing around by this in the ass If it is not ready to have kids and i do think about that cuz probably come in the next five years or so we like to wait as long as we can have much fun as we can, add a clock is taken and worry about those types of things what about the time commitment of home schooling there's probably some misconceived notions out there about.

11:35 Actually that's been a bit of a surprise for us because so my oldest she just went to nature kindergarten last year you can only do that up till kindergarten in Canada then you have to comply. And nature kindergarten is just sort of this program that they can get into and there's only i think there's less than 100 kids in calgary yet, But you can get into it and they go, and they're there for two days a week six hours a day. And they're outside if it's above minus 20, they are outside for at least four hours of the day That's a beautiful thing my oldest went to it and she loved it so now this is kinda her grade one that we're starting with homeschooling my youngest she were gonna put her in a year nature school as well because my oldest came out of it and now its like, she's down the go outside and play no matter what weather man and they don't give me a lot of toys and stuff either right so my kids are being the backyard playing with sticks or old tubes you know whatever just how to blast.

12:31 The youngest still has a little bit of trouble with the call but my oldest is super resilient to go play outside regardless of what the weather is and i am like one hundred percent. I mean my wife and i have always been especially my wife cuz she's able to stay at home fortunately so she's always been taking them hiking in things like that but nature kindergarten big time Got them into outside that's very cool yes and now this is great one just starting and it was super overwhelming to get started and going on everything in oh my god are we gonna fuck kids up and have. And like i say its my wife that does a ninety nine percent of the work lisa so god bless her, start beginning at five days a week six hours a day no go go go and you quickly realize that in the one-on-one environment

13:19 They're learning so fast that we're down to like three hours a day. Wow, that is awesome and I don't think people think about as the one on one aspect of it yeah that's gotta be huge So get this just as a little add-on so they do school together my oldest is six and my youngest is four so my youngest watches my older steward math And the other day she started being able to do addition of like three plus three or two plus three years so she can do a bit of edition there and then we did i was actually talking around because we do these little trivia contest shows for our supporters. Where we have a guy come on will do a lot of trivia contest one of the questions is how many hearts does an octopus app, are you all got it wrong when i went in the house and i was just like ask my my oldest cuz he's a big animal that

14:13 So i said how many hours is not to miss out and she's at three and she walks away that's great man that's probably something a lot of people feel more comfortable after hearing because, i don't wanna put my kids through the ringer of the public school system especially here in america but im also so worried about doing it the other way and taking full responsibility for that i dont want make them some crazy conspiracy nut prepper either so its delicate balance. Yeah, and Alberta is set up pretty good. So like we align with it's called the Phoenix Foundation so we have to show them our curriculum and we can sort of set it up however we want and were able to put in a lot of native things and native teachings because I'm Native so...I still prefer Indian but whatever I don't think you're allowed to say that in this state. You are part Native right? I am part Native yeah 50% 40%. But yes, so were able to totally teach but there certain things that have to be apart of it like math and things like that

15:09 But there's so much out there these days Greg like we just subscribe to a thing for her math is it was like thirty dollars and it's a little grade one adaptive math kid does at all. Because my wife not real good snot math isn't strong subject hers, show she's able to do this adaptive math and especially trying to teach math to a kid right cuz you're not quite sure how to do that reading and things like that are a little bit easier But there's so many resources out there for homeschooling these days in Canada at least. I don't know about in the States, but in Canada it is still fairly easy Right on. Yeah, it's great that there are so many tools out there I know Randall Carlson also is involved in making curriculum for kids for homeschooling which is a great thing for him to be doing because he's a hell of a mind yeah I've been trying to get him to give my kids little course when they're a little bit older That's awesome what a treat So if we were going talk about vaccines a little deeper and maybe start with some other history how far back did you go when you were looking into this stuff?

16:12 Well I didn't quite go all the way back to smallpox. The smallpox one, i just found it's way back there and the whole cow pox thing and yeah the whole smallpox thing seems pretty fucking sketchy to me And... The big thing for me was like when I think it was 67 When they instituted like the stringent smallpox vaccinations? And then like Three years later they got a spike to like six seven times the amount of smallpox so i don't know a whole lot about smallpox i started jumping more around the fifties and that's when i argue that access to power refrigeration food heat cleanliness clean water. And all that became a staple in most north america,

17:02 And this is also happens to coalesce with the time that you'll see a lot of these diseases, measles whooping cough diphtheria smallpox. I mean if you look at any of them by 1950 you're pretty much flat lined at between zero and three deaths per hundred thousand And if you look at a chart, say from the 1850s to the 1950s. You're going to look at some of these diseases are up in 100 or 160 people per hundred thousand dying. The measles for example is instituted in 68. You're already... The vaccine was instituted? Yeah, the vaccine was instituted in 68. You're already losing basically zero people per hundred thousand

17:52 I think at that time you were losing about 1 in 10,000 measles infections would result in death. So out of 4 approximately four or five million measles cases per year in the US you're having 400 to 500 deaths which works out to one ten thousandth or one hundredth of one percent So it seems like vaccines got a lot of credit for things that maybe should go to just lifestyle changes and cleanliness changes, huh? Yeah, I mean and when you start looking at the polio one too. I mean that's everyone goes to right but polio yeah hell yeah if you start really looking at the polio stuff there some interesting correlations with DDT use and production in the USA causing similar things and actually if you look at the polio versus

18:48 meningitis numbers. It looks like you could almost account for polio just with fucking pesticides and change in diagnosis, right? And that's super interesting because I watched the documentary Vaxxed and one of the first things they talk about just in passing because it has a pretty singular focus on the MMR vaccine but they make one comment in their little history roundup that A vaccine in canada was shown to cause meningitis and so they quickly got rid of it and swept all that under the rug i thought well that's interesting cuz they said it was in the eighties, add i was born eighty five when i was three years old i got meningitis.

19:30 And the story is that I was playing around in some dirty pond water, but who knows how I actually got meningitis. And at the age of three? That's right in that window when you're getting a lot of vaccines in a decade where they specifically said this was caused by some vaccines and I've been deaf in my right ear my whole life since three years old and I also have terrible allergies which is another thing they say is due to possibly due to vaccines there are some correlation there did you have the allergies all your life Many, many years but it's hard to remember where it started. I have as well after I take an allergy pill every day and I never used to mine didn't kick in till I was about 29 or 30 which is another later life onset allergies is another side effect or reported side effect. The problem is like 90% of the studies that you're going to cite that have any sort of anti-vax nature to them

20:28 Are gonna get retracted really quickly and a lot of people are gonna try and tell you that's because maybe there isn't sound science going on i would argue that it's probably got more to do with. Somewhat of a medical cabal and a whole lot of censorship absolutely i mean if people don't know the story of the polio vaccine just the fact that, All not sure this doctor who is kind of the head of that campaign a major stockholder and previous president of the national cancer society. he was championing this vaccine and this woman bernice eddie discovers that it's actually got all these monkey viruses in a cuz they were using monkey kidneys to test and develop the vaccine she finds is sb forty virus which, yeah no sv stands for simian virus and i call it as the forty because they found thirty nine other viruses but this one she seemed to think

21:25 Was related to cancer so here you have this guy who's making a lot of money in the cancer industry promoting a vaccine that. Potentially turns into cancer and people in a few decades into their life span and to quiet the fears of people. He called in a bunch of people to a conference room and he injected his own grandchildren on stage with the polio vaccine killed is grandson within forty eight hours and gave his granddaughter polio this is, this is the kind of person we're talking about and all of our parents were similar generations are they call of our parents

22:02 Remember standing in lines for the sugar cubes and these polio vaccines that they were given at school. And then sure enough, you look at the data a few decades later this huge spike in soft tissue cancers and then you have this woman who at the time was saying yeah, this is gonna happen and sure enough it's happened add to it the suppression of cancer cures and you got a real conspiracy soup here. I actually wasn't gonna go into the sd forty i don't push it too much on familiar with at all, i just find that when i start getting into that people start glazing i mean i'm a hundred percent with you on the connection and i think that that is the forty could possibly if we can ever get some real research done. That it could be held responsible for maybe fifty to one hundred million cases of cancer one day

22:47 Yeah yeah that's exactly it i mean the one thing i was gonna start with we should maybe cycle back to quick the one thing that really triggered me and got me thinking okay something is completely fucked up here. is that if you go to the doctor and he malpractices you or misdiagnoses you, and you get sick from that. You're able to sue your doctor. Your doctor has insurance so you can sue him. If you go to a restaurant and they give you rotten meat and you eat it and get sick I'd assume you can sue the restaurant. If someone hits you with your car you can sue them

23:26 So you'd assume that if vaccine manufacturers were making vaccines that were hurting people or killing people, or anything like that. That you would have some sort of legal repercussions against them. So it turns out in 1986... ...that all went away! Which is interesting because its after what Greg was mentioning. That's right so as of 1986 the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed So basically anytime after that, the pharmaceutical manufacturers producing vaccines were freed from any and all liability resulting from a vaccine injury or death. So basically what that means is that theoretically a vaccine manufacturer could fill up 1,000 or a million doses of fucking rat poison and they couldn't be held criminally

24:18 Civil reliable air and suable what happened is the lobby congress and said that. Vaccine manufacturing facilities were breaking down in a needed to be upgraded and they work in a bother upgrading the facilities because they're being sued too much doesn't make any sense to Build this infrastructure to make a fucking vaccine if you just gonna keep losing all your money there's no profit in it because you're spending all your profit and court paying out fucking lost and didn't use it as an excuse for help for bio warfare while this is at the height of the cold war so congress was worried about if there's a bio attack that facilities won't even exist to make the fucking vaccines.

25:00 So congress panicked and passed the vaccine injury act which now said that the manufacturers couldn't be sued so the seven billion dollar a year industry is now can't be sued there's no real hiccup. Other than your research and development, maybe your safety studies. I don't know how much money you bother putting into safety studies if you can't be sued. I'd argue put more money into safety studies if you're liable for all the stuff that your injecting into four million kids a year. Of course! But people are going to say what do you hear about people getting sued all the time or getting payout for vaccine injury? So what they had to do, they know they have a problem. They can't just make it go away so what they start doing is they start adding a 75 cent excise tax on every vaccine which are already paid for by tax dollars. So you throw another 75 cents excise tax on that into the compensation fund? Yeah! So this 75 cents now from every vaccine sold in America if that's an MMR vaccine which has three doses in it That's going to be 75 cents times 3 to 2 dollars and 25 cents

26:03 So think 26 doses in the first five years of life, four million kids born a year. 75 cents from this tax goes into this pot it's called vaccine injury compensation fund and it quietly pays out between three and four hundred million dollars a year to vaccine injured people the entire cost of the court is paid for by the taxpayer and everything the vaccine manufacturers pay nothing So these people are getting paid out since its inception in 1986. It's paid out closing in on four billion dollars to vaccine injured people. Here's the problem, most of the fucking people getting payouts are adults because the adults are able to go in and say I felt this this this. I got the vaccine. I felt that that my doctor says I was this this this. I got the vaccine. I was that that

27:04 My boss says i was this is this i got the vaccine i was that my wife i was just as well with the kids we don't have that the kids can speak for themselves they can defend themselves right by the time there's an even slight chance that they're able to start talking they've already been pumped with me now twenty six doses of sixteen vaccines so. When i started realizing that there's absolutely no liability and if you look at the safety studies that most of these vaccine manufacturers are citing they were done at a time when we only had half as many vaccines is we have right now, that's kinda what left me sitting on easy and thats kind of what got me.

27:49 Going cuz as soon as the government steps in and says that people can't be sued and is. Mandating if not mandating at least very strongly strong arming parents into getting these shots over the country then it makes me think something's up and nothing else it makes me think that you know this cds been co-opted, add a bunch of people are making a bunch of money and you know maybe the government is oblivious Yeah it is so messed up because clearly there's an acknowledgement that some people are damaged from this even in the mainstream i think most people that you ask will acknowledge that sure maybe a small small fraction of percentage are damaged because of that philosophy that blanket cures aren't gonna work for everyone but knowing that how can you make this mandatory

28:41 Actually just a quick comment there that funny that because the number I've heard toted around in the mainstream is about one ten thousandth, 1 in 10 thousand. Which is about the rate of people who are dying from measles. Yeah well there's another point yeah I mean it worse than actual disease? Especially considering we're seeing all these studies now that are showing you know actual real Immunity to measles that you get from having measles is actually maybe preventing cancer and these other things later in life because your actually building a real immune system instead of pretend immune system i like to use the analogy of a garden.

29:25 If you can look at someone's nice outside fucking garden in California, let's call it a pot garden for the audience. I would take an outdoor nice Cali fucking outdoor garden over somebody under the stair fucking LED grow any day. I'm sure you get some decent buds out of the LED grow but it's just not the same. I think the same sort of thing happens with immunity If you try and cheat it with some man-made mumbo jumbo, you're just not doing the same as a couple million years of evolution of your immune system is designed for.

30:06 I agree i always try to stay with nature when in doubt of the medical system of course when you get really sick sometimes you gotta go and get something. But as much as you can stay away from it i think its best just a distance yourself from the whole damn thing when you buy new computer do ya right away just open up and start changing parts and poking things i don't, Well, here's the thing. If we had the best mortality rates infant mortality rates in the world then I would say sure you know We've got these great infant mortality rates our kids are dying less than kids born in other parts of the country but when The United States comes in at 32 or 33 for infant mortality and Canada comes in at 28 France comes in at 22 and Switzerland 23 UK at 24

30:56 There's a problem. Where are the top 10? The top 10 are Iceland, Finland, Slovenia Luxembourg Norway Japan Estonia Sweden Czech Republic and Italy. And I'll tell you right now i'm not going to get into it here but if you go and check the vaccine schedules of those countries You're gonna find that there are a lot less they're a lot more spread out and there is a lot more choice so im not even saying that Vaccines are terrible there's a chance that maybe some of these vaccines could be doing us some good. We've just gotten so excited and cram so many of them together without doing any real science that we're gonna end up fucking big time and then, where can i maybe miss something that could have been helpful you know because we were worried about fucking chicken pox

31:48 Chickenpox, I mean chicken pox is even worse. I think the numbers on chicken pox were something like at its height where 4 or 5 million kids infected per year and around 100 dying which is less than 1 in 50 thousand so now the chicken pox is actually one of the vaccines that works really well and it doesn't have aluminum in it which is a big problem but the chicken pox vaccine has done with the virus it works pretty well but now we have this weird side effect all of a sudden No one gets chicken pox anymore but a way way way more people are getting shingles when they have their thirties well turns out that there's some studies now that is showing that. Well when all our kids had chickenpox i had chickenpox you chickenpox, i'm weird case actually didn't have chickenpox and i know that's just i know that's the concern and then i might be on my death bed any day but that's okay

32:43 So anyway, it turns out that when... and I mean you could still even be immune because i'm sure you would have been exposed to it. I am sure there is a certain percentage of the population that can't get it but anyway it turns out that when all these kids had chicken pox cause their herpes zoster in the chicken poxes varicella are very closely related so it turns out that when your kids had chickenpox When I had chickenpox I was giving my mom and dad a booster shot against getting Herpes zoster or shingles. Well now that's not happening anymore so now we need a fucking shingles vaccine to stop us from getting shingles. God, seems so backwards it's bad approach this stuff yeah all at the same time there still zero attention to diet yes amen

33:32 Here's to that I think diet of course is one of the biggest factors and the fact that so few doctors actually take courses lengthy detailed courses in nutrition is just asinine to me. This is what we're putting on our body, that's the real medicine is your nutrition. That's right but anyway if you were talk about maybe just a couple specific vaccines which ones do you think are the most concerning? Which one set off the most alarm bells for you Well, the first one is hep B And you'll hear a lot of the doctors that are starting to get involved in the informed consent movement, which is more what I'm pushing for real informed consent. And if you're in a major city in the US and yet do some digging around and this day and age, you can probably find a pediatrician who's doing some more vaccine choice and some more informed consent. I know there's some good ones in Portland and Seattle and some places like that

34:30 And these guys are starting to have practices with 10, 12, 15 thousand patients because so many people are wanting to at least slow down. But anyway... So they introduce Hep B There's a couple ways you can get Hep B I'd argue three One is having sex Two is sharing a needle and the third would be being born to a mother that has Hep B If you were to be born to a mother that has happy in the us i would say that we would know we should know before the child is born maybe then we would vaccinate that child against happy. I think the current rates in us around one and two hundred or two hundred fifty if that,

35:13 But other than that the chances so if the mother doesn't have happy. The chance is that kids gonna be exposed to happy at least until they're a teenager are almost zero. But they still made this decision to start injecting every baby born in america within the first twelve hours of life with his happy shot twelve hours yeah, So the ironic part is that by the time the child hits 13, 14, 15 sexual maturity they need a booster shot because it's worn off. So that's kind of one that makes me... It just seems

35:54 completely pointless. So that's the one that I have, you know the other ones it's harder to tell people not to get because you don't want to be that guy who tells them not to get it and then they end up getting the disease. Hep B is not a disease that you really contract from a virus. Right so like jeez 12 hours just enough time to cut off the tip of your dick stab you with a needle and send ya home huh? That's right and then so the trouble with that one to me is that it's got. Two hundred twenty five micrograms of aluminum hydroxide in now aluminum not aluminum hydroxide but aluminum classified by the FDA, is allowable to be ingested or read dinner gone through sort of a

36:48 the traditional means of entering the bloodstream where it's incredibly hard to enter the blood stream. You have to either go through a bunch different layers, stomach or through the lungs are ways like that but historically it should be our bodies kind designed to make it real hard to get things directly into our blood stream so the FDA has come out and said that aluminum is bad for you and it'll hurt your brain If you have any more exposure than 5 micrograms per kilogram per day, then you start bordering on neurological damage areas. So at five micrograms per kilogram per day if we took say a five-kilogram baby little on the big side but it's easy to do math with that's going to be about 10 pounds for US people a kilograms 2.2 pounds

37:38 That's gonna be about a 10 pound baby, pretty hefty. So at 5 micrograms per kilogram per day, five times five 25 micrograms of aluminum to have these shots got 225 micrograms of aluminum so that's a big problem to me especially when you start looking at the second... You know you go back and get a bunch of shots when you're two months old And then when you're four months old, so the two month old visits you're coming in more at like 20 times the allowable amount of aluminum. So your like 800 micrograms And then when you go in for your six month, you're at like 50 times. You're over a thousand micrograms of aluminum so actually into what's above a microgram? A milligram. You're actually into the milligrams of aluminum now. So now I do have people sometimes they'll say oh well aluminum and aluminum hydroxide aren't the same thing. So I was just gonna read a quick little thing here from drugs dot com on the side effects of aluminum hydroxide

38:40 Severe stomach pain or constipation, bloody black or tarry stools, coughing up blood that looks like coffee grounds. Pain when you urinate, extreme drowsiness, tired feeling loss of appetite and muscle weakness Great. Yeah, and it's funny especially when you hear of kids coming home after getting the shots and sleeping for three days or crying with pain uncontrollably and that's all normal in the seizures that's all normal. You know I'm starting to have more trouble thinking about stuff is normal when i start looking at aluminum hydroxide side effects and they say that remember rejecting this also says to take this medication with a full eight ounce glass of water

39:22 I don't think they do that no i definitely don't do that so the happy is one of the main ones for me anything with a loom in a minute i think it's bad if people just head over to wikipedia and search for the vaccine ingredients. That easy to find these things are top secret, And you can go through them there and you'll see the ones that have aluminum phosphate, polysorbate 80 which is specifically designed to carry things across the blood-brain barrier. Some of the flu shots still have thimerosal in them which is mercury and a lot of formaldehyde. A lot of formaldehyde and a lot of these things are still growing in or they're still using the monkey tissue aborted fetal lung tissues a really big one

40:16 I had a list here of all the different vaccines that had aborted lung tissue in them. My main problem with aborted lung tissue isn't aborted, well to me i'm not going to turn into pro-life or whatever argument, but it's putting aborted tissue into the body of human being who is in process of building a body there should probably be some DNA research done there. Oh yeah! Because I think that's probably not a good idea. I'm with you and that's really all i'm asking for is real studies

40:55 Right, amen. I agree i'm not looking for an emotional argument i'm looking for data unfortunately in a lot of cases we don't get that data that they should be having on record but i'm curious do you have by chance the vaccine schedule handy that you could read us because when you hear it all back to back it is pretty alarming Yeah, so the USA at birth or within the first 12 hours of life you get that hep B shot. You also get it at month 2 and between 6 and 18. So that's 3 different hep b shots then at two months you get tetanus rotavirus polio pneumococcal pertussis Hib and dipheria

41:44 2 different dipherias. Those are all at two, four and six months. So then at one year you get varicella, rubella, pneumococcal, mumps, measles, Hib, hepatitis A and then 18 months you get another tetanus, pertussis, dipheria At 20 months or 30 months sorry influenza influenza one scary to because the influenza still got some aerosol in it so the countries that are kind of following that schedule Canada France germany's italy japan is actually backed off a lot lately especially with mmr. The UK let me pull up the other one here and i'll give the breakdown of what its been by year

42:42 So, in 1962 we had a total of 5 doses of 3 vaccines. Polio, smallpox and DTP. In 1983 we had a total of 24 doses of 10 vaccines. They were DTP at 2 months, OPV at two months, DTP at 4 months, OPV at four months, DTP 6 months, MMR 15 months So on and so forth. So then in 86, we come out with the new legislation that says vaccine manufacturers can't be sued now I'll just read off from all this go up to five years of age 72 there's 72 total doses by the time you're 18 now i'll just do 5 because i think what you can make your own choices i think a bunch people made a choice to get a flu shot this year that might not make that choice next year

43:36 So, they wanted you to do influenza which again is a problem. It still has thimerosal in it during pregnancy DTaP during pregnancy Hep B at birth, Hep B at 2 months Rotavirus at two months, DTaP at two months Hib at two months PCV at two months percussis IPV at two months Rotavirus at four months DTaP four months, Hib four months PCV four months Hep B six months, rotavirus six months, DTAP six months, Hib six months, PCV six months. IPV six months so the HIV-PCV those are all combinations same with the DTAP that just means there's three or four different vaccines crammed into one for your vaccine pleasure. They'll be your pleasure they'll be fun

44:17 Yeah, sometimes even triple. So then you get influenza at six months, influenza at seven months, Hib at 12 months PCV MMR varicella hep A all that twelve months At 18 months You get another DTAP influenza and hep a at 30 months another influenza 42 months another influenza Another DTAP IPV MMR and varicella at four years And then you're just influenza until your teens where they start wanting to hit you with that HPV shot, which is one that I strongly suggest that parents take a real strong look at if your parents are approaching that age. If your kids are approaching that age Because there is research and I mean real research not kooky research

45:06 that is looking like the HPV vaccine might literally be causing more cervical cancer than it's preventing. Right, yeah I've seen that data then there's been a couple of whistleblowers on the issue they're always quickly suppressed discredited and disbarred and one of them was on the HPV specifically and i thought...I believe it was a female I thought she was quite credible A real shame that the way they handle these issues is by suppressing anyone who thinks there's an issue rather than just checking to see if there really is. Yeah, it's... It IS a real shame! That's just it. But you make a great point about the legislation going through that bars vaccine manufacturers from being sued and then all of a sudden the numbers explode to 72 because they have a financial incentive I've even said let's take

46:00 eugenics off the table and just say that maybe half of these are saline solution. They're just nothing but saltwater like there's an incentive to give you more and more vaccines because they're unquestioned, and they're profitable mandated Exactly. So even if they're not necessarily harmful, and then of course you said earlier you're not saying they are all bad and that's exactly true thats how you obscure the data only one of them needs to be bad I actually think there is a handful that are highly highly suspect but when your getting 72 shots you only have 4 or 5 or 6 that are weaponized that are going to confuse everyone because theres so much being thrown into these kids you can't separate it all out And this is why we have problems

46:43 Yeah, exactly. And there's a lot of like weird sort of cross stuff too like I mean on the CDCs own website they say that formaldehyde is a carcinogen but it's in such small doses and vaccines that you don't have to worry about it right man and so where do you put the blame for all this who do you hold ultimately responsible? Of course the CDC Merck and Glasgow Smith Klein but Is there anyone else to look at? I don't currently go much farther than Bad corporate decisions and money just for the simple fact that for what i'm trying to do. The shady cabal doesn't help so if you just kind of look at who runs and who has been running the cdc

47:32 check out the last few directors of the CDC and where they went after the CDC or where they came directly from before the CDC. And you can just go and check for yourself instead of hearing it from me, and find out pretty quickly that it's basically a revolving door back-and-forth between the vaccine manufacturers in the pharmaceutical industry and organization thats Supposed to be protecting us and i say yes because canada and a lot of these countries are just referring to the c. d.c right i mean by the c. d.c' s own website as well autism rates in two thousand were one hundred fifty and twenty twelve there one sixty eight that's from the c. d.c

48:14 Oh yeah and in facts they have some really scary stats about getting into twenty twenty and like one in two boys will be dealing with some kind of autism spectrum situation, and that's of course a number that is like really hard to fathom but when you see the trend moving from where it was just where it is now that alone is super alarming. It's scary that we have this issue that is like a runaway freight train for kids and there really is just no solution. They say, well it's not vaccines okay well what the fuck is it? Because you don't have any answers!

48:52 What are you that's just i mean it i think the late seventies your like one and ten or one twelve thousand for autism now i'm sure a lot of that can have to do the cdc won't go back there but that's what the numbers were in the seventies if you can look at up. A lot of people say that we've made this spectrum now so we're catching a lot more autism will you take a look at the parents who are saying that their kids were vaccine injured, And got autism from their vaccine are cases of autism that we would have missed were talking about thirty year old man or whatever that are still living at home that will never get it past you don't miss that we're not talking about people in the basement you know.

49:35 Play minecraft all day or things like that we're not talking about you know the fringe spectrum people that are really good at coding and things like that were talking about autism spectrum to the point that you can't lead normal life in need full time care. Say yes it's insane and i don't think you know there is real good chance that its not all vaccines but we gotta look at it cuz it's just autism if u look at Autism asthma ADHD learning disabilities it's all fucking coming up right now i had a little thing i have jotted down here the other day so right now in the us, we're up to one and four hundred with diabetes one fifty with autism one nine with asthma and one six of the learning disability not to mention.

50:26 Jumping anxiety disorders by polar inflammatory bowel syndrome rheumatoid arthritis all the stuff that is gonna slowly i think start getting tied back and i don't think it's everyone i think its a percentage of the population not just being. Sacrifice For the greater good, I guess. They'd say that yeah they would and I would tend to disagree because like you say when you look at those numbers that are gonna be approaching 1 in 10 there's a problem and if we don't it might already be too late to really fucking reel it in but if we don't start taking a look at it soon then We're gonna be in real trouble And I mean the aluminum just seems to be part of

51:08 I mean there's a study that's gonna come out in the journal of trace elements and medicine and biology it's gonna come out in the march edition this year, that has a study on the brains of ten people who passed away that had autism. And their brains were donated to science Every single one of them had at least one or more lobes of their brain with four to eight times the amount of aluminum that is in a normal, or benign amount. Because technically there probably shouldn't be a normal amount of aluminum in the brain. Anyway this study's gonna come out in March I'm sure it's going to get redacted very quickly. Retracted? Retracted sorry It'll be in volume 46 on March 2018 pages 76-82

51:57 So everyone's welcome when that comes out you can find it online now through science direct.com and a few places like that, but this to me and even if you look at the ratio from boys to girls this could be the start of bulletproof evidence that aluminum is causing autism So, I'll just read the conclusion here quickly for your audience. Conclusions—we have made the first measurements of aluminum in brain tissue and autism spectrum disorder and we have shown that the brain aluminum content is extraordinarily high. We have identified aluminum in brain tissue as both extracellular and intracellular with the latter involving both neurons and non-neuronal cells

52:45 The presence of aluminum in inflammatory cells in the meninges and vasculature, gray and white matter is a standout observation and could implicate aluminum in the etiology of autism spectrum disorder. And this will come out next month. I'll email you this link too if you want to put it in the show notes. Sure, absolutely! That's just the Illunum aspect of it and then you've got the whole MMR thing which I would argue seems to be a combination of three viruses that I would argue have 0% chance of contracting naturally at the same time in real life. Measles, mumps and rubella two of which are non-fatal

53:31 And even measles is, I would argue measles is a non-fatal disease 99.99% of the time at least 99.9% of the time probably 99.99% of the time but it seems like and I don't get into MMR so much but that's kind of one just starting to cross over into because I find there's enough out there on MMR already That it doesn't really need me i'm sort of spending my time looking at the other stuff but it seems like the mmr is. You know that combination diseases causing some sort of super heating or something high fevers and not which can also be relating to see the thing is mm r is the one that you hear from the parents and i'm not going to

54:24 Put aside all these parents coming in and saying the exact same story over and over again my kid was you know starting to talk with walking got shot that was it never again. So the mr there's definitely something there i'm not gonna get into too much is like i say i'm not as well versed in it as they could be but theres a ton of stuff out their already on that one even, The mmr one if you're on the fence if you check out doctor paul thomas is work he's saying that if you even wait till your like three and a half or four to get that mm rf you are really really worried about it, that its almost zero percent of regression autism after that critical age of three.

55:12 I think that's a really interesting point just because on a recent joe rogan episode he had doctor ronda patrick on and she is a fairly conventional doctor and he definitely been shitting on conspiracies in the most recent years of this show but it was really interesting when vaccines came up because both of them said that they took a really light version of the schedule, that they definitely spaced it out for their kids and only gave them the ones that were most necessary. And I was like oh that's a real curious thing like on one hand you can laugh at paranoid anti-vaxxers but then when it comes to your own kids you didn't follow the CDCs advice! That's just it

55:54 And you here i mean that's something that i can say yeah or nay to but you do hear a lot of these like medical reporters that have kind of switched are these doctors even that have come over to the slow and down the schedule and they'll all say to a person at their not anti vaccine just anti schedule right gotta look at the schedule. I'm sure a lot of that is PR what's better than nothing now, Yeah, exactly. But I mean they say that there's this giant fucking underground thing of that none of the doctors are even doing it now the doctors vaccinate to the schedule makes sense and nurses don't vaccinate to schedule now That's something I can't really corroborate

56:35 But it's just something i've heard so do you think people are wise enough to this at all because its difficult to know if the cool ladies just that strong or what's really happening because we're clearly propaganda eyes and there is a huge PR campaign to get us to go that direction but it's hard to tell if people are really believe in it after some cracks in the story of this point. I'm kinda looking at this as sort of a litmus test because i've only really done it on my show so far, some on my regular show and some in my premium show which is even less people. Our Show. Our Show sorry yeah forgot Graham was here he hasn't said much our show but our audience sorta knows us and likes us you know there's that sorta home field advantage

57:22 So I'm curious to see what kind of feedback i'm going to get from coming on your show. But being on our show when I talk about it, I would say 10% negative and 90% positive or if I had to break it down actually probably be easier to say 10% negative 40% positive and 50% don't give a fuck. I mean you really do not care unless you got kids I feel like it's cracking open at the same rate as a lot of other stuff, like geoengineering and...I mean, I don't want to use the term chemtrails but weather modification let's say. And some of your guests like Chris Knowles and Gordon White have been talking about it's almost like the veil is lifted in this information that is out there now. It's no longer able to be hidden from us and occulted from us. And it's just a matter of time before everybody starts realizing that we're sort of under

58:13 a bunch of lies and you know that goes with everything from I think man-made climate change to vaccines and weather modification, UFOs. You had a couple great episodes with those two guys recently and they're talking about they're going to start bringing out the toys from technology. Yeah, the Deep State toys and stuff like that it really feels like its all happening at once here And I would say vaccines is kind of apart of that But as that happens, it feels like they polarize. So people slide further to one side and further to the other and there's less you know, there's less people in the middle which well I think I don't know lately i'm starting to think There's more people in the middle than we think The fucking mainstream media is just determined not to let us figure that out right? Yeah That's a good point on a little on a quick aside a little bit of

59:06 Positive information from the current administration is that on January 18th, the Office for Civil Rights has announced a new Conscious and Religious Freedoms Division. So a lot of people in the community are looking at is the first step towards having conscience. Having an out kind of? Conscience means you can just say I don't want vaccines and that's good enough, like right now in a ton of states that's not good enough but it looks like federally they're going to start pushing back against that. Wow, wow. That should be interesting. And normally I think

59:43 The more power to the smaller the divisions, the better probably. But I don't know vaccines is one i would accept some sort of federal mandate on because I mean I think a lot of the crazy fucking states are fucking it right up like I mean California's gonna start taking people's kids away to jack and full of fucking needles right and that so messed up when you're already admitted that it will hurt some people how can you do that that's right if you look at I don't have it in front of me but if you actually have to ask your doctor but a few actually asked for the little hand out thing left one folded about sixty times and i'll have like a number six pixel font on it might need a magnifying glass.

1:00:25 But if you ask your doctor or your pharmacist for one of those and you go through it, it'll actually have all these little weird side effect possibilities down in the super fine print. Like a bad drug commercial? Yeah exactly! So here's a little fun experiment... Go to your doctor, ask for all those little handouts on every vaccine that he's gonna want to give your kid and then ask yourself if he's random And ask him to read them out to you. Yeah, ask him for the highlights See that's another great point that you just alluded to Graham is big pharma can't make any fucking pills without a whole laundry list of side effects But we think they can make vaccines to put into our newborns exactly

1:01:08 Like what the fuck? I mean, that simply that should cast some doubt because you watch any of these drug commercials. It's like comedy 101 every amateur comedian has some open mic comment about the side effects of drugs because everybody realizes it and yet these same companies we just think when it comes to vaccines though they've got the Midas touch They can make magic happen but yet it hasn't spilled over into their main industry which is the pills Yeah, and look at the ODs from legal drugs have been more than illegal drugs now for I think at least seven eight nine ten years something like that You know across that boundary where people are dying from legal drugs more. So what the fuck is a drug war all about? Mm-hmm. Yeah pretty much

1:01:51 Man well i will say that there on the topic of feedback doing this show as long as i have i am shocked how many controversial topics i can get into and the feedback still remain overwhelmingly positive sometimes you focus on the negative cuz it gets in your head but when you're really looking at the content of what we do our shows is shocking some times that it's so positive i love it And that brings me to the point that I do want to get into some other topics, you know. Get Graham in here a little bit more? Yeah, I think we should have some fun because one thing I did want to mention before we leave the free show is that Grime-erica is usually a lot more fun than this! Vaccines are kind of something we touch on and try but

1:02:38 It's not as much fun as we tend to like the hell on a show that is totally fair i agree but it is such a serious thing lives are at stake so its worth dedicating some time to for sure. So man guys this has been a lot of fun is there anything else add before we start wrapping up, I think we covered most of it. Yeah, it's just really great to be on your show and... I'm sure we'll make it down there eventually. That'd be great! Because Matheson is right around there someplace too Have you had him on yet? Yeah a couple times he was great Is he local? He's pretty local to ya I think? I think he's a little bit more northern California And California is a helluva long state so its several hours but You know he's in the vicinity

1:03:24 Yes we ever i'd like to i wouldn't mind coming down and doing a little california is california's like one of our hugest markets do so we could. You know if we ever did do a meetup or conference or something like that, that would probably be the place to do it. So yeah I guess just check out the show at greyamerica.ca and on all of our podcast platforms and all that. And you know we do a Value for Value as well similar to Greg where its fully listener supported no ads long interesting conversations and that kind of thing just to plug the show once more and thats about it I think. Thats the only thing that keeps these shows going so if you haven't signed up for Plus yet you probably should!

1:04:01 Well, right on guys. This has been a blast I do think the vaccine topic is super important it was good catalyst to get this thing done and worth revisiting sensors a constant stream of brainwashing aimed at pushing us the other way so thanks for that there in gram appreciate hell of a time keep doing what you do and stay in touch. Thanks buddy bro really appreciate it got it Holy hell and hallelujah people, Graham and Darren of Gramerica podcast fame dropping knowledge on that sweet sweet poison. And this is a bit of an odd episode format wise because if you've never heard a full two hour show You don't really know where the split is I'm one of the only hosts that just straight talks to people for 2 hours and then I just look for a pretty natural cut point

1:04:50 I'm not saying it's better or worse, but so many other shows will say all right and that was our first hour let's take a quick break and come back to get deeper into x y or z. Personally i feel like it disrupts the natural flow of a conversation but the point is that today is basically one of those types of shows because at the one hour mark it really just turned into a casual conversation between alternative podcasters I talk about myself a lot, which i don't usually do. No one likes a self-centered host but I just got too excited having some colleagues of sorts to talk inside baseball with when it comes to running these types of shows

1:05:31 But it was cathartic for me and I do think the first hour is really solid stuff. Some people might feel like it's review, we've heard vaccine stuff before but we covered a lot of different vaccines than your typical MMR type of show and it's also good to have reminders since the propaganda push is so strong gotta beat back that tide somehow I also thought it was really great to get into some of that homeschooling stuff. I didn't even expect that aspect to come up much, but it is pretty interesting to me!

1:06:07 I'd love to have gone or to send my future kids to a nature school. That sounds pretty awesome! In fact, look up Russian School Snow on YouTube and you'll find all these videos of first graders walking out for recess in their underwear and rubbing snow all over themselves or dumping buckets of water on themselves in the dead of winter And they are not really bothered by that cold at all It's like they really like it They look forward to it The teachers and kids say that they do it for their immune systems. One teacher even took it further and said that because we do this, the kids don't get sick They have great positive energy They learn more And they take that energy back to their families who can all benefit from the brightness and cheeriness of a child's personality I think thats a nice sentiment Instead of nursing kids through sickness after sickness Because I feel like American kids are sick every winter Flu, chicken pox, something

1:07:03 I mean there's a lot of faking to get out of that shitty school system, but kids are getting sick quite a bit. But if American kids went out shirtless in the cold they would be crying and we don't do much to strengthen our kids We just coddle them and i think as a parent you need to know when to do both It's kind of sad those stories you see where a parent let their kid ride a bike two miles home from school or they take the subway home alone and child protective services gets called as if taking the leash off your kid is child abuse. You're not even allowed to give them a little freedom and responsibility! We need kids trained for obedience, but anyway I am glad to have finally gotten them on it's also fun to have two guests which is pretty rare around here

1:07:52 I would have had them on sooner, but i just have a really hard time setting up an episode of THC that doesn't have a fairly strict focus and i just never wing it. I think a lot of that stems from the early Hireside episodes where it was me in some local comic sitting around bullshitting And i just don't ever want to go back to that kind of show But i definitely eased up on that in The Second Hour today It's probably good for a change once in awhile Also, we talked about that roundtable podcast with them and Duncan Trussell that I was invited to for the cancer fundraiser for a researcher in our community. And I don't think we said who it was but it was last year for John Anthony West and just in the time since recording this show to releasing it Mr. West has passed

1:08:42 I never got a chance to interview him myself, but he has made some great contributions to Egyptology and his regularly used term quackademic will always get a gold star from me. So that is a bummer and one more point about vaccines actually i mentioned in the show a Gardasil whistleblower whose name I couldn't remember only that she was female well I looked it up and let me read you some of this from CBS News of all places So here it says, amid questions about the safety of the HPV vaccine Gardasil one of the lead researchers for the Merck drug is speaking out about its risks benefits and aggressive marketing. Dr Diane Harper says young girls and their parents should receive more complete warnings before receiving the vaccine to prevent cervical cancer

1:09:31 Dr. Harper helped design and carry out the Phase II and Phase III safety and effectiveness studies to get Gardasil approved, and authored many of the published scholarly papers about it She has been a paid speaker and consultant to Merck It's highly unusual for a researcher to publicly criticize a medicine or vaccine she helped get approved So this is a big deal But Dr. Harper joins a number of consumer watchdogs, vaccine safety advocates and parents who question the vaccines risk versus benefit profile she says data available for Gardasil shows that it lasts five years there is no data that it remains effective beyond five years That raises questions about the CDC's recommendation that the series of shots be given to girls as young as 11 years old

1:10:17 If we vaccinate 11-year olds and the protection doesn't last, we've put them at risk of harm for side effects small but real for no benefit," Dr. Harper says. The benefit to public health is nothing! There is no reduction in cervical cancers—they are just postponed." Dr. Scott Ratner and his wife also a physician expressed similar concerns as Dr. Harper in an interview with CBS News last year One of their teenage daughters became severely ill after her first dose of Gardasil. Dr Ratner says she'd have been better off getting cervical cancer than the vaccination. My daughter went from a varsity lacrosse player to a chronically ill steroid-dependent patient with autoimmune myofasciitis."

1:11:01 I've had to ask myself why I let my eldest of three daughters get an unproven vaccine against a few strains of non-lethal virus that can be dealt with in more effective ways. Merck and the Center for Disease Control & Prevention maintain that Gardasil is safe and effective, and that adequate warnings are provided cautioning about soreness at injection sites and risk of fainting after vaccination." A new study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found while the overall risk of side effects appears to be comparable to other vaccines, Gardasil has a higher incidence of blood clots reported. Merck says it continues to have confidence in Gardasil's safety profile. Merck also said its looking into cases of ALS commonly known as Lou Gehrig's disease reported after vaccination. I mean can

1:11:52 God damn it. This makes me so angry just because of the casual tone of Merc and the CDC Oh, some people are getting ALS after our shots man Yeah We're gonna be looking into that fuck you guys ice buckets may be good for first graders in Russia But they aren't doing shit for someone who now has ALS their whole life because of your shitty shot You know, my wife helps with the editing of this show and on this episode she was looking up a lot of stuff as she was going through it. And that was kind of her consensus on so many of these vaccines. They're vaccines against viruses that you only have like one in 10 000 chance of getting and then the people who do get it only like 1 out of 1000 of those people die from it! So... A lot of times It isn't worth the risk, it doesn't seem

1:12:44 This whole industry at best is a corrupt business and at worst it's a depopulation agenda. Also in the show I had said that in the movie Vaxxed, it states that one in two boys will have some form of autism by 2020 I knew that seemed really hard to believe, so i looked it up and was wrong. The stat is still 1 in 2 but its not 20-20 its 20-32. So not much different and scary as hell and lines up pretty well with the robots taking our jobs doesn't it? So if you are feeling that itch thinking, you know maybe it is time I pick up THC+. You want to get that second hour in this show. We talked about the Gramerica guys favorite guests and topics on their show some of their dream guests and the lessons learned from hosting these types of shows we talked about Graham's UFO experiences with E-Setti. I really think I'm gonna go and do one of those overnights with them

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