Crrow777 & James Alfred 2 | Hadibov’s Pre-history, Humanity’s Genotypes, & The Flesh Jacket

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00:43 Hello again, Hireside Chatters. Hope you're doing well drinking just a little drink and smoking quite a large amount of smoke enjoying a nice 70 degree December day here in sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood trying to stay positive in a mad world that seems quite determined to break me out of that habit I'm sure many of us know the feeling all too well but we do what we can Anyway, thanks for listening. Today we got James Alford back along with Crow and we're going to hear about the latest sections of the dense Hattie Bov material James has broken down and some other interesting things he's been researching If you're fairly new to THC You really should try to go through The Crow shows We've had up into this point or at least the first show with James Alfred I'll try to remember to add the links to the show notes because this really is a

01:26 a part 2 or maybe even a part 5 or 6 depending on how you want to count it. But I really enjoy the Hattie Boff work, I tend to always enjoy things that are getting nearly no attention Things that aren't on everybody's radar A good example of the opposite is Snowden! I don't take anything this guy says seriously Real whistleblowers do not live as long as he has Don't get mainstream news coverage and don't become household names in a system that likes its secrets It's bit of joke But that is why I like the Hedibob stuff. It's just the opposite, almost nobody is talking about it and worse still as it gains attention more and more files have been removed from the online archives they were originally found in To me its a bit like The Shaver Mystery You can see parallels in a guy working underground and uncovering something odd And pulling the thread more and more until he discovers a huge can of worms nobody was supposed to know about

02:13 It's also a bit like Tesla's story, there are some elements there. A brilliant guy doing very mathematic and scientific analysis of under-the radar elements of our environment and after his death, his research was taken by agents at the shadowy elite. It jives with Gnostic stories, it fits with self activating hardware Linda Moulton Howell is talking about, and it even has the ancient aliens Anunnaki paradigms covered So to me, this is a real sweet spot and more and more people are getting Hattie Bob fever as you'll hear. But I just wanted to give a little context of people who might be jumping into the middle of a pretty long saga maybe the only series i've gotten the show involved in And before we really get serious, I also did get a message from November's Money Bomb winner taking home $343 Very nice! Thanks all listeners who keep that going I'm happy to do it when I lived in Missouri That was a month rent almost

03:04 And I am happy to be one of the only shows that has really tried to give back in a big way and it can be done. I don't know how long we're going to keep doing it, but I think its beautiful thing so hearing from him will just take a minute And guys, with that it's time to pack your glass and park your ass because we're laying down another chapter in the Hattie Boff saga involving control systems. The lunar wave genetic engineering secret history transhumanism magic alien entities and more with the legendary crow and the majestic James Alfred on the other side. You have one new message Hey Greg this is Danny from Oregon and I'm your Moneybomb winner thank you so much! Thanks for all of the work that you do at THC

03:44 My favorite episodes are Crow777, that's how I learned about you. The most influential episode though is Care St Louis. I realized that in addition to shuffling from room to room at the sound of a bell that i was giving my authority away, the authorship of my perceptions away at the sound of a bell And in waking up and learning about 9-11, and GC Math, and the cancer industry. All these other things was just to reclaim my authority and give it away to somebody else. I knew right then and there that I had to author my own perceptions. And i didn't know how to do that! That scared the shit out of me. So a couple months of soul searching... and just a couple days ago

04:24 I just hit on the answer for myself and i am so excited and i've shared it with a few people. And they've been blown away, so what i'm going to do with this money bomb winning is upgrade my equipment! I have a youtube channel that's called Lunasea L-U-N-A S-E-E that's two words And I'm going to get my ideas out there. And, I am also filming the moon to try and confirm the lunar wave, Crow777's observations. A suggestion for a future episode is The Keshe Foundation and Dr. Keshe in October of 2015 they gave away blueprints to the world for free energy generator and i'd love to learn more Thanks again Greg! Bye bye It's the Higher SciJets Podcast but you can call it THC

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05:58 Alright people, we are getting weirder than weird today. Most of you know by now that Crow has been trying to unpack the dense and detailed work of the now deceased Russian researcher Khadibov or Khadibow for some since he first heard about it and I've dug through a lot of it myself and have done several shows discussing those early findings. The story details a template for reality that is far from what we've been told, including a hidden history involving a spider-like race of beings that invaded our natural system thousands of years ago. Their trial and error experiments in merging their spider brains with our human vessels and the institution of a control grid and planetary management system

06:34 maintained by a series of automated crafts and a moon control center. Throw in the various genotypes of humanity as well as consciousness driven by a wavelength and octave system, And you got yourself Hattiebob in a nutshell! Well way back in August I did a show with Crowe AND a second guest James Alford of the Sage Sigma blog who has really been breaking down the Hattiebobs stuff better than anybody... ...and he's back with us again today to talk about the latest updates Always a good time happy to have them both here Crowe & James welcome back to THC Thanks for having me back. Hey, good to be back on! I love it so all right guys we just had Crow here talking about his big road trip and the things he captured along the way James talk to us about where your research has gone with Hattie Bov since we last talked it seems like it's gotten even deeper and stranger hasn't? It is basically been a process of continuing to break it down anybody familiar with literature knows that its kind of cobbled together and takes little bit time

07:30 piece together statements, make sense of it and put it in a summary that makes some sense to the rest of us. One of the better things, and I'm happy that you had me on initially was that there are a couple people now that have been sending me some further research Russian research in PDF formats links to various theories and websites. And so forth. So there's a lot more that's happening but unfortunately I've got 40 hours a week I have to work so it takes a little bit of time to dig through all the material and summarize it but But yeah, it's been fun. I've been getting a lot of positive feedback and I've been getting quite a bit of documentation. Fortunately it is all in Russian at this point so... And I'm not a native Russian speaker So I'll get to that eventually! It has been great

08:15 That's awesome, man. Well you do a great job I check out every blog post breakdown you do and i'm always thoroughly impressed Now we did do a lot of the introductory stuff last time And I don't want to spend too much energy on the critical side The world will do plenty of that for us But a few points with all the details involved in this material if this was some rich mythology or sci-fi nonsense? I don't think it would be as dense with the math and the science And if this was meant to be disinformation, usually those people are given a bigger platform for their ideas to catch on. This guy had almost no platform and you're having to really stretch to get as much information as you can You know when you compare that to a guy like Alex Jones who has a huge corporate funded and sanctioned network I guess i would just say that IF this guy was meant to be some type of disinformation agent he really wasn't given the tools to be effective

09:08 Sure, you know like we talked about initially there's allegedly 16,500 pages of additional documentation that's out there and when you look at what's available online you're only looking at perhaps three to four hundred pages of documentation. And one of the biggest problems with that material, that source material that's currently available to everybody is there's consistent references to various appendices please refer to this book on cold plasma or whatever the name of the book is and then at this time nobody seems to have format. So yeah, it's just tough you know we're taking maybe 10% of the available material at best and we're trying to extrapolate it like you said into some meaningful context over Archaea and Mythos

09:50 Yeah, you know we did talk about the actual man a little bit last time his biography because you have gotten A little bit enlightened on the man himself although there are just breadcrumbs to the story There's not a whole lot out there on him But when it comes to demystifying The Man It seems like you've come across an interesting possibility since we last talked that he might have been some sort of Israeli intelligence double agent is that right? That is right. There's an individual who I believe is from Russia originally, he has been posting some of my work and referencing me not taking credit for it so I thank him for that He and I got into a conversation regarding the man himself. Did he actually exist? And was this an actual scientist in the Soviet Union? He did say that this individual did exist, that his sources stated that this man did indeed exist. This material is as accurate as it currently is. There's the possibility that somebody has gone after the fact and rewritten some of the passages

10:48 further lines that might be misrepresenting it. But he also went on to say that he thought that he was possibly an Israeli double agent, and he was embedded in the Soviet Union, and he was more or less putting together this material with a full intent of delivering it back to the Israeli government which would be in line with that conversation we had previous where I believe the state of Israel received all of his information upon his death or all of this information was taken at some point in its life. So, right? This individual claims to know through other resources and references that this guy existed truly believes that he was an Israeli double agent working for the KGB

11:25 Man, that does add more fuel to the fire and when some agency snatches up a dead researcher's work I always think of Tesla but this new angle could definitely explain that. Although the double agent story reminds me a bit of Crowley one of the most renowned occult writers ever it seems like he was an agent for the British government I guess on some level, if you are an intelligent person who's onto something alternative You're gonna get approached and picked up to do some work for the system somewhere Who really knows if that's how it works? But I go back and forth on if the elite really even know everything there is To know about the world in its history. I mean sure they mislead us but sometimes I wonder how sure they are about things That's why some of their agencies investigate wild ideas like this

12:05 They're almost too compartmentalized for their own good, perhaps. But Crowe let me ask you about this Israeli double agent thing does this help or hurt Hattie Bov's credibility in your eyes? Because I could see it going either way Well, I think in the foremost of my mind the specificity of the work and the fact that we didn't get it all or any sizable amount of it tells us something. If this was intended to be misinformation, it seems unlikely to me that the specificity would hold together across such disparate subjects but not only that I mean wouldn't have whole pieces of the you know research? Not just a page here, a page there

12:45 But to top it off some of the things that I started with that. I handed off to James A lot of those links are dead and then to top it off we have you know Hattie Bob calm sprung up on the web So there's clearly in my mind a bear there, but oh yeah, I would also add online on my trip I was up in Lake Michigan and was able to confirm a piece of the Hattie Bob research where he says one of the major hubs of terrestrial UFO activity is over the Great Lakes, and this is absolutely what I witnessed firsthand. So I think there is a there-there. I just think it's going to take time and effort from people like James and others

13:27 to really dig in and find out what we can know about the man. And clearly, we know he worked for oil companies has a university that he was apparently picked up his degrees from these are things that over time I think can vet out. Yeah, I mean, that is an interesting thing you mentioned briefly that Hattiebob.com is now a website and I don't think any of the three of us are involved in anyway, but it does seem like they're linking to James's articles over and over again It just seems like it's kind of like a redirect but hattiebob.com...I feel good about that in some way. I'd like to see the spreading of it

14:04 You know what's funny about that is he spelled the name whoever put that site up and I did a whois lookup on it. It served from GoDaddy but they've got the privacy on it so you don't know who it is, but I noticed they spelled the name with the Ds and my initial gut reaction was I wonder if this was a Russian speaker who did this? But like you mentioned they seem to be just kind of scooping the work that James has done So we need to keep an eye on it to see if it ends up being disinformation or something more Yeah, the spelling itself is an enigma. Some people use a T instead of D or it's Y or I and on the end it's either V or W... And I see James' spelling has changed over time For me, I just try to stay consistent with my own spelling at this point The material confusing enough we don't really need this spelling issue out there

14:52 Although, another thing I wanted to bring up as far as disinformation goes before we get too deep. I get these type of concerns from time-to-time about you crow some people say this guy came out of nowhere he's got this lunar wave footage she suddenly all over the place is even got 777 his name which is almost like 666 very sketchy But people should know that I sought you out. You know, it's not like you were banging down my door to get on the show like I get week after week from some people, disinfo or not but again, I had to have some preliminary talks with you, you had to vet me for yourself and that's...not really the way an agent works in my mind but because it has come up a few times how scary is this 777 man? What's the deal?"

15:36 Yeah, you know what? And I'll state categorically for the record and I've said this other times. When I set up my YouTube channel that was entirely a play on my name. The numbers, the two R's everything was entirely a play on my name and at the time I was aware of numerology and gematria but not that into it and not aware of it is I am actually now just for the record if I had to do over I would just be crow because so many people have gotten hung up on it and you know you just mentioned crowley in this interview and i get that all the time to talk about the ground zero may have interviewed me because they thought there was some relation to crowley and their given uh... multi-headed categorically if i did it all over again i would just be crow and so there's that but

16:24 As for disinformation, Agent, all anyone needs to know is the thousands of hours I have put in and I've got the video to back it up. Someone involved in nefarious games is not going to put in the time that I've put into filming The Sky. It's literally thousands of hours so there's my response." Fair fair. Alright let's get to the material because You know, we could talk all day but yeah. James let's get down into some of the prehistory stuff because that seems like a big chunk that you've kind of gotten a better handle on since we last talked in describing what you call the four different epochs I know it can get a little confusing with all the dates and time frames But talk to us about this prehistory part of the puzzle

17:06 Sure, this would be all post-interventionist Ebrov creation in the solar system. So again as we discussed... Oh I was just going to say yeah the Ebrov is the term used for the spider race in this context right? It is, yes. Thank you. Okay it is and again in 18000 roughly 18 000 BC they basically came to the solar system at that time the solar system did not include the solar sun, the lunar moon and various satellites around the planets um At that time Hatiebo even goes on to say that there's actually two more planets In our solar system than were here originally

17:45 that modern science and astronomy has yet to discover these two other planets. So at that point in time the Ebrov take control of our solar system by destroying Phaeton, and Phaeton was the security element of our super-system prior to the spider intervention. The first epoch then was from 17000 BC to roughly 13000 BC what people have identified that as the age of the creation of a human flesh jacket. So this goes back to the idea that the spider brain exists in the human body and they're at this point in time, they're going to attempt to merge a lower octave brain. The eBRAV currently at this point in time exist at octave 31 and they want to synthesize that with a human flesh jacket to achieve octave 96 so

18:35 The E-Brav historically and in these documents that I have found was a parasitic dying civilization. They were at the lower end of the cosmic consciousness and what they did is they took an opportunity to take control of human civilization, merge their brains with ours in order to become a member of the higher cosmic consciousness in universe. So at that point in time life on Earth was completely wiped out all of the existing systems of control that were placed here prior to that were destroyed there's really no mention as initially, so that is a discussion for another day. For further research out this time what is happening is they're imprisoning all of these human energies when they annihilated planet Earth they put them in these object types 440's and that's kind of an interesting

19:26 segment to all of this research. An Object 440 is a special object in the system, it's a Type 1 and Type 2 UFO that is plasmoid in nature. There's a really fascinating article that has quite a bit of technical detail surrounding Object 440 and how its able to change shapes, its able to manipulate energy so forth But at a very high level, this object 440 has the ability to trap and sustain life energies travel to and from the Earth to the lunar moon. And dictate behavior in this prototype life form that we're going to currently go over. So continuing with the first epoch there's some geoengineering that takes place to accommodate the spider biology so there's some work done on water also on the atmosphere

20:10 The ERAV management complexes are installed on the face of the Earth at this time in typical specificity, 4300 meters below the current sea level. Also at this time is the first test population so the literature is claiming that 2% of human energies that were entrapped in these object type 440's are put on the face of the earth This again is like a proto-human an arachnid brain and flesh in a human flesh jacket Curiously, humanoids at that time are 1.88 meters in height and the spiders are two-and-a-half to four meters in height so you can imagine this sense of like a spider god that was running around on the planet These humanoids also carried limited metabolic processes They had the ability to breathe a new atmosphere that the Ebrov implanted and they can also survive this new habitat, this geoengineering that has been happening

21:01 This unfortunately ended in 13,954 BC. It's mentioned that all humanoids were ruthlessly annihilated during the course of two days so the first test was an absolute failure and the Ebrov eradicated accordingly. So then it goes into the second epoch this goes from roughly 1300 BC to 10800 BC The new jacket at this point in time strengthened the weakness of the flesh of the spiders. There's continued geoengineering, at this point in time The Ebrov synthesize a new flora fauna system that can flourish on this post interventionist earth and what this does is it allows animals and plants to provide sustenance for the survival of social structures. The second population test population utilized 21% of the traps energies that were in these type 440 objects

21:56 At this point in time, this proto-human could live a longer life 18 to 22 years. The diet could depend on the consumption of meat and there's also some water change water frequency octave characteristics that are modified on planet Earth to support life at this lower octave Again extermination of all these test population begins in year 10800 BC So that concludes the second epoch 30 pot goes from 10,000 BC to roughly 6,000 BC. More or less more of the same you have geoengineering and some changes to the biological operating system of these humanoids there is an energy grid that is placed on a surface of this earth using 8.64 million I believe power poles

22:44 energy grids and this could potentially be a ley line type situation. Again, it's mentioned in a couple parts in the literature but it's tough to make sense of what exactly it is but you can kind of think of that as like a magnetic lay line situation being put on the earth It's at this point in time that there is the Great Flood and at that time, the Ibrahov land management system dumps 1500 meters of rain onto the planet. This did three things it transformed the surface of the earth as we know it today. It created bodies of salt water which would be the oceans and so forth and it removed the evidence of human experimentation up until that point again the erected brain and the human synthesis not completely successful extermination of all beings again occurs in year 62 34 BC

23:27 Wow. 6234 BC Yeah, yeah it's a it's crazy. It's basically 16000 years of experimentation that went wrong. Damn! Yeah, it's fascinating I mean it seems like this would eat each epoch is just a test and then they're like okay maybe each time they learn a little bit from their previous tests get a little more refined and update their process but okay talk to us about that fourth epoch Yeah, this was the important one and in typical fashion there's a specific date September 3761 BC. This is the first time that the human body is successfully implemented by the Ibrahim to synthesize the arachnid brain. This provided the basis of the statement The Image and Likeness of God that's in legends, myths, and the Bible and so forth There are also at this point tense that begin to show up

24:17 A tent in the Hattie Bow material is defined as a clump or cluster of people that share common language, common values and experience common conditions in the environment. The Object 440s are now utilized to assist in human definitions of shelter food and safe recreation. The 440s also assist in the development of logical critical thought and ability to send and receive information through conscious speech One interesting note here despite the fact that they had intended to use this flood in the prior epoch to get rid of it, all this testing failed prior to this point in time and that there's skeletons of various horrific creatures and evidence other experiments are still found around the globe. Dinosaurs? Yeah exactly exactly mm-hmm all those weird mutated skeletons that occasionally pop up giants so forth yeah absolutely that would explain the Giants thing

25:10 Yes, and the last key piece to this is the idea of the Mayan civilization. This was an experimental test population that was utilized experiment with the idea of mantises or mantissas I'm probably butchering that but you can think of a mantis as like effectivity or a version of a genotype And so at this point in time through the control complexes of the Andes Mountains This baseline genotype is utilizing some sort of experimentation where they can create improved versions of that genotype over the course of time. So that wraps up that first four prehistory period of the Hattie Bow material." Yeah, man That is so interesting and I think the real value of this is hearing it and weighing it against other ideas That have been out there in the alternative community already because you can almost say Ibrav is The Russian translation for Archon? I mean this sounds like the story

26:04 of how the Archons could have taken control. It also sounds like, I mean ancient aliens is huge and popular but there aren't a lot of details to the context of how we were genetically engineered i mean that's what this sounds like! I just think that it's great it's kind of the details of the Gnostic story of Archon control exactly and its interesting that it was a linear algebra geo mining engineer that's the individual who cracked this in the mid 80s. It was kind of an interesting idea to the whole concept of Gnostic materiality and the archons as you mentioned before. Cracked it in 1985, yeah. That is a great point too! And to reiterate how did he come across this information? How does the story go?

26:47 The story that I've been able to piece together is that when he was working for an oil institute in Samara, in the mid-80s. He was utilizing a supercomputer that was more or less utilized to figure out depths of mining and the kind of minerals below the surface of the earth I'm not a mining engineer, so I couldn't speak to the technology. But at some point in time he went on strike and wasn't being paid a fair wage for his work and he utilized this computer while he had some downtime more or less. And it's at that point in time when he cracked the land E-BRAV management system. So that is the origin of how Hattie Bolt discovered this overriding reality software program that's running our reality on this planet."

27:31 Yeah man, it is amazing. Also I just interviewed Linda Moulton Howell not long ago and her big thing that she's talking about now is self-activating software and hardware in the UFO field—the idea of crafts that are not piloted by someone but are just on autopilot from some type of system. And again you need to look at Harry Bob woman! It touches on so many different things. You mentioned the Object 440's crow, when you hear that description of what an Object 440 is this vessel that is a plasmonoid in nature and can actually trap life energies and shapeshifts... Of the things you've captured do you feel like there's anything that would fit that description?

28:15 Well, I mean even if we look at the orbs that have been around chemtrails there's a lot of people trying to claim or demonstrate in some way that those are plasmoid or plasma in some way and to be honest with you of all the things I have filmed The hardest one to explain is that orb that's shooting what appears to be a couple plasma bursts into a chemtrail, clearly free-flying. But from the Hattie Bobb material I think there are a couple of important things you guys mentioned. easily bridged idea that it matches the archons mythos or story or whatever we would call it from the Gnostic sector, but for me personally you see so much of this subtextually encoded into the Hollywood stuff that were presented with and You know having just mentioned all the kind of biblical crossover that James was hinting

29:07 hinting towards, even the movie Noah had the multi-armed beings that were from heaven for lack of a better description. But what is being described here is absolutely being encoded into Hollywood movies where there's this multi armed being that has the ability to go inside of a human and then the Gnostic crossovers but I drifted little bit there could be short and concise The shooting orb I think it kind a prime example of what you asked me. Yeah, it looks to be plasma and it's a very difficult thing to describe. You gotta find something about that interesting I mean people are seeing these orbs the debate is always are they intelligently controlled? Are they intelligence itself? Is it some type of disembodied consciousness? These are all strange questions that you have to ask when you see some those pictures of those orbs and try to identify what could be

30:02 There's actually no doubt and I stated it at the time either those orbs are conscious or consciously controlled. There is no debate in my mind, you can see it going against the wind, you can see its steering and then you see a pump off of plasma guns or something so there it is. Right on! So I do love that That saga right there, I love having the whole story rolled out in a clear and concise fashion. But another element to this is the genotypes and you have James made some advancements on understanding that from what i understand? The various versions of levels of consciousness within humanity it's interesting this is some of my favorite stuff but what's new in this area or what kind of new details can you give us about this sector

30:46 As far as new details, I've been able to more or less map out the progression of the genotype through 1605 BC all the way through 1990 AD. And just so people get an idea, genotypes isn't necessarily your standard scientific definition. As Hattie Bow would describe it, the genotype is attached to the brain and it's more or less in unique correspondence with a corresponding control complex at the land management system. So when you start to look at the various genotypes there's always a pyramid or what would be called a sand covered pyramid, which more or less is a mountain that is linked to each unique genotype. And then from being able to control the brain, the brain then controls every living cell in the human body and you have more or less a way to manage different populations sits on the planet

31:34 I wanted to point out like three big things as far as why i think that the genotypes are needed and from what i can gather from the research. One again is just to control the bio structure of the human brain and dictate human behavior also throughout the course of Ebrov genotype evolution there's a consistently raising of that octave, again the original octave of the arachnid brain was at 31 and the human brain 96 so there was this idea that over the course of time they were elevating the brain of the arachnid to this higher cosmic consciousness octave. And then also at the same time what you see throughout the literature is kind of an economic, socioeconomic underlying paradigm where there's a consolidation of resources. So what appears to be happening is that through the use of genotypes not only are you getting improved biological humanoid but you're also consolidating wealth power through legitimized religion state control and so forth. There's a very interesting socio-economic parallel that fits with the genotype description

32:38 Yeah man, that is interesting and it kind of jives with the religious notion of a fall from heaven in the ancient past. If you consider heaven to be a higher form of consciousness and these spider beings in their attempt to raise their own consciousness have to lower the vibration of humanity to sort of make it compatible and meet in the middle there you have this devolution concept but But walk us through the various genotypes that they worked on. Apparently, the first version is called The Speaking People because really we're talking about the evolution of man but from this weird genetic engineering perspective right? Exactly. And that is at the end of that fourth epoch, so in 1605 again when they created this idea of a successful synthesis of the arachnid brain with human body they rolled that out in genotype 421. The control center was Mount Ararat and there was a specific geological area, geographical area that this population subset belonged to. There's talk that these

33:35 An establishment of morals on the family unit it allowed for humans to more or less migrate away from these object 440 controlled human tents. These areas are these encampments of social communities there's a big emphasis to begin social order construction and units of social organization and some of the other secondary literature, there is talk that at this point in time you're beginning to establish financial equivalencies for services and goods so there's a...at this point in time human awakeness towards the benefit of employing economic means to consolidate gains or at least put a system in place that can be manipulated down the road and consolidated. So, that all happens with this genotype 421. And each genotype I should say there's 12 effectivities so

34:23 When you move up to genotype 422, which is an 822 BC between 1605 BC and 822 BC there could be some combination of 12 Improvements to these biological jackets over the course at that time. Right like many updates Yeah, like mini-updates yep And again it's basically just continued improvements to the biological jacket. Again, the idea that is going to eventually end at the top is that this EROB is basically trying to figure out human death and an avoidance of a human death so these brains can have eternal life. So that's where all these genotype progressions are moving towards. Gotcha In 822 BC, the EROB would have

35:03 allegedly rolled out genotype 422. The control center of that was Mount Kazbek and that was the era of pig selfishness, the idea of people gods is at this point in time in history that the elite legitimized the elites needs and desires over the rest of the population This group of people began to see superiority over other groups of people and over nature so there's this conflict that's beginning to be introduced And at that time, this was an ideal group for the people gods but unfortunately the bodies and the brains died too quickly. So they had basically figured out a way to be on top of the social pyramid but the bodies were dying too soon so that rolls into the phenotype 423. And again in Hattie Bow fashion as of January 17th 1207 AM on 0 AD

35:55 423 was rolled out utilizing the Reincarnation program and the Christ program. And maybe talk about that now or a little bit later, but reincarnation is program that allows the Ebrov brain to have sustained life. So upon the death of the jacket, the Ebrov is moved to a different complex it's archived and then it's reinserted into a jacket so this was the time period that they figured out a way to have eternal life by recycling the brain through various flesh jackets Nice. Yeah, that is super interesting and it's also fascinating that it is year zero because me and Crowe and some other shows have talked about the manipulation of history and how we know that the years of history this isn't literally the beginning you would think year zero would be the beginning of history but it really is just some

36:43 date thrown in there, the Roman Catholic Church that says this is where we're now going to everything before this who gives a shit. Now that we're established, we're gonna start counting history and we still 2000 years later use that paradigm but in this context it's interesting that that is when they discovered reincarnation year zero so that's where they put the marker for history and there's more details or we will come back to it but walk us through the progression of the genotypes Sure, sure. At 423 it's this idea that Christ is rolled out so now at this time they're legitimizing the idea of reincarnation and they're also using it as a form of control over the masses

37:21 Everything seems to be fine until 1433 AD. At that point in time, the Ebrov land management system dictates the formation of a golden billion that begins with genotype 441 Its control center is or control complex is Mount Blanc This genotype begins to use the power of money and the power of the state to create control over the masses It's also referenced at this time it's the birth of ideas of secret societies. This is a subgroup of people at this point in time that have the sense of being special and having an ability to bypass existing norms and laws that the rest of us would deal with at that time, it's the idea that people that have this genotype can sense that they're attached to the land management system, that there's something special about them and-and that's ultimately what

38:09 going to create this elite concept that they're better than everybody else, therefore they have the right to resources wealth and social control. This one apparently ended in 1878 1871 AD, there was too much infighting in this group. So there was an upgrade at that point in time to genotype 442. That control complex was the Alps II mountain I haven't been able to do a full post on this but I plan to do it in the future But through the manipulation of three periods of time there's the Revolutionary Period militant fascism and destructive democracy This is runs from 1871 through 1990

38:50 And the purpose of all these wars that we witnessed in the 20th century, late 19th century was to reduce the population people that were expendable. The waste products you and me and whoever else that aren't part of that golden billion genotype subset and it's basically consolidating the wealth and resources to the golden billion. So, through the use of various wars that the Ibrahima are beginning consolidation of economic power. Can I interject a question here? Is there a direct relationship between the golden billion in the Sun Well the golden billion, that's it is a good question. The Sun is key to the idea of reincarnation and the adjustment of matrices so this gets into the idea of the matrix brain people that are in this golden billion golden million subset of the population they're attached to the matrix and whenever there needs to be

39:46 a sense of enlightenment or technological improvement, scientific progress or whatnot. What the research is showing is that there's a movement of information from one of the planetary satellites to Earth, the complex Ethiopia Ethiopia then routes it to Kailash. Kailash uploads it to the moon, the moon at that point in time basically resets all of the brain matrices on planet Earth that belong in this genotype population group and then there's... Which is? Sorry go ahead I'm sorry, which is the download where you and I began to talk about at You know the lunar wave as possibly being visibly the download that you're talking about. Yeah exactly And then there's a communication That's to the Sun and at that point in it The Sun is the start to the upload or to be upgrade to the brain matrix So the sun is basically at that point of time sending out a magnetic pulse and that After the moon has reset and downloaded this information to this group kind of prepared

40:44 this population set. The sun sending a magnetic pulse basically adjusts the ERAV land management system and now you've got this upload or this updated mentality brain that's in the genotype 441 golden billion And we also talked a little bit about the Hattie Bob description of Jewishness in relation to exactly what we're talking about. To be clear, we're not calling Jewishness like a gene type—like their DNA could be recognized as Jewish—but is there a direct reference in the Hattie Bob material about Jewishness and the golden billion in relation to the sun and the way you just described?

41:23 There is, you know. And like we talked there's a possibility that somebody went in afterwards but it does definitely spell out that there is a group of Jewishness they're not necessarily... It's not the genetic makeup but they just happen to be categorized as having a Jewish... It's a level of awakening I think is how its described right? Yes, yeah. Yeah enlightenment exactly it's all Created through this process of satellites control complexes on earth and the Sun yet This is so interesting So it's like as the process was more refined and these ebrah were more able to hook into the human mind and body The it seems like the the minds kind of melded a little bit more to the degree that with this golden billion they could now sense

42:15 the control system around them, they could kind of sense what's going on getting a piece that reality isn't exactly what they think and this in turn forms secret societies. Forms an elite that acts more as a puppet master or liaison between the two in some sense And yeah I think uh...I think it's super fascinating is there more to say about the line of the genotypes? There is one more and this gets in a confusion. Crowe and I were talking about this recently, there was a formation of genotype 461 which was to be the golden million Genotype it talks about that control complex being in Mount Kailash California Which I think is Mount Shasta which would be interesting given kind of all the

42:58 the mystery that surrounds Mount Shasta. This genotype, at this point this is where Ibragov had figured out how to create an eternal life of the brain through the internal life of a jacket so reincarnation is no longer needed but beginning with this genotype you have improved biological characteristics of the elite. The literature then goes on to state that in 2012 there was to be a download of 1.2 million children or the Sun to Earth And I think what that is saying and crow correct me if i'm wrong, but I get the sense that that Possibly did not happen and the golden million wasn't fully formulated. But uh crow's got some ideas on that It sounds like haddy bob Actually there are people out there who speak of him literally as being a savior to the humankind Blocked that download that's what we're talking about right james Yes

43:53 Okay, so so how do you Bob somehow intervenes and blocks a download of what James and I have been calling children of the Sun? The reason we call it that is because of the old Billy Thorpe song children of the Sun. We're just using it as a terminology And the song is interesting too but there was this download coming from the sun in which is interesting on so many levels, and you and I have talked about the secret societies are basically tracking and encoding with Hollywood the movement of The Sun. Which probably plays into the idea we're talking about but somehow Hattie Boz comes along and he blocks this downloader and it's viewed as like saving humanity as a whole

44:34 and the reason that i find this interesting not just because we know that the secret societies are encoding the path of the fun but hollywood is doing it but the vatican is doing it uh... there seems to be evidence of two groups at odds down here and it looks to me like the spiders or related to jewishness and this whole idea and the things we can see about fighters is absolutely related to the music industry in hollywood dot where we see it In the same, by the same token we see this kind of bohemian grove group where they're stating they seem to be represented by the owl and they even on a plaque have weaving spiders come not here. But why that's interesting is we see these two kinds of groups in some ways at odds as an example

45:23 The kid who played Eric Foreman on the 70s show showed up in a movie wearing a shirt saying owls are assholes. And then by the flip side of that coin, we see so much spider talk in the music industry like no doubt. Walking in the Spider Web, Joan Osborne. There's a whole song about Ray Charles and the spider webs in his head I know I've kind of tracked off of it So I guess the main point that I was going to make there Was that The Sun is related to the golden million or billion which seems to be related to Jewishness Which is absolutely Related to the arachnid brain and being reflected In the Jewish controlled music and movie industry

46:06 Man, I think those are pretty interesting connections. I really love the Bohemian Grove stuff. I think that's... it always intrigued me why this phrase would be weaving spiders come not here It always seemed a little paranormal in a sense One weird thing is that this golden million this last update So we have the update right before the last one where they uncover reincarnation and they can keep their mind going with various human meat bodies. And now they have this update apparently in 1990 where they've got this new way to just keep the body going forever That's really interesting, and I guess if it is so late in the game that this happened we wouldn't see indications quite yet of there being people that look like they've been in the public eye way too long

46:57 I'm sorry, let me interject. Couldn't this relate directly to this kind of death by the numbers game we see? So if we were going to theorize and this is absolutely theorizing that we know for a fact that a lot of famous people died by the numbers and some people hold they're being sacrificed which i don't buy for a second but there's actually a movie out there, an old British movie and if anyone listening knows the name of this movie I'd love to know it. I've been looking for it where famous people die on a certain date they go literally underground to this very plush city they live there for a couple years till everyone forgot about them then they reemerge under a new identity when they continue on but I think that idea

47:40 death for this elite group that we see in entertainment, in maybe public office government and royalty. We see them dying by the numbers and I have for the longest time looked at this and thought there's something very strange about this and I think it may relate directly if there is any basis to what were talking about Yeah, totally could be. I also kind of thought what happened in the 90s you know in terms of the human mind and body and there was a lot of people talking about DNA activation and indigo kids was this term that got thrown around a lot kids born in the 90s seemed to have higher consciousness and behaved a little differently in social situations they were just a little bit different and I was wondering if perhaps that could tie-in somehow

48:31 I can take a crack at that. So we know that these things are true, we know that there has been some kind of change but what we don't know is just because the internet's here so now were more aware of it because we could talk to someone in China and never would have met previously? We don't know that but what we do know is we see human beings, particularly after the last couple two or three years becoming way more aware. And we see children with abilities that far surpass the abilities of their parents and this is not speculation. This is a thing that we can know and witness in our own time. We don't have to read about it, we can see it so there is something going on there

49:11 The problem is we just don't have a way to correlate it, though clearly when the media was hyping up 2012 and making it this big scary world's going to end but there's an upgrade for humans and all this alignment of galaxies and other hokum that got pushed by the mainstream. I think a more accurate date is 2009, having been online where we actually do see people becoming less satisfied with all these systems that we'd lived with for so long and begin to question them and begin to realize that hey man there something's not right here. And um... We're going to begin the question it more in my mind that is people kind of getting a consciousness upgrade

49:56 Hmm and another interesting thing about the 2000s is there is a little anecdote in here that James maybe you can relay to us about the selling of the flesh bodies as these E-bra found out they no longer need the reincarnation program. They can stick with one meat suit They apparently started selling their older version Yeah, exactly It's an interesting discussion I believe it's filed under Hattie Bowes In all of his papers it typically falls into a category whether it be science or the cosmos and this one Falls into the humor section. And when you read as humor pieces, you get the sense He's just using kind of an interesting story tell to basically explain the reality of the situation So in this one It was called The Sale Of Shirts and it's the idea that again in 2006 AD There was an invite only

50:51 to the golden billion where individuals of the golden billion could come in and they could basically purchase flesh suit and use reincarnation so you kind of get the sense that possibly that land management system was going to cut off reincarnation going forward because because the golden million would ultimately be the ones on top of the pyramid and have all the wealth in that. So they're allowing this other genotype to basically buy a flesh suit and have access to reincarnation for 1.5 million US dollars, it even goes so far as to say that you could use a MasterCard to make that purchase. 1.5 billion yes, sorry one point five billion US dollars and so at that time it says that If you make this purchase you can live at the expense of all those that are not wearing shirts again That implies that the rest of us are just kind of here for maintenance For the elites and there's an opportunity for the brain to survive human death going forward but it also says that

51:48 If the day after you bought this shirt and you didn't make proper payment your brain and your flesh suit was immediately destroyed And if you were to have any Again, this flesh jacket has what he calls a cell phone with a direct link to God. You could refer to this manual called How To Communicate With God by I.N. Janicki. So it seems to be something further to research. I did Google that phrase and that author and didn't come up with the whole lot so if anybody's got that would love to read it and send it over. There's another funny thing to consider here too. When you look at like say false flags and all the false news that we see, and then we now know this has been going on for generations someone might ask, you know say back in the 50s why would these people have put so much of their life into

52:39 into these false events to shape some eventuality that would seemingly come around long after they're dead. It's always puzzled me, the amount of effort and resources and everything else that has gone into this. And we can see events as far back in history as we can look. We can look past the Titanic, we can look through World War II, we can even look through World War I and see that there were false flags, false events But it took a lot of effort to pull off in the same way Paris was recently for us. And it's always puzzled me, why would the old men of that age have put so much of their life into doing that when the outcome was going... It's not here yet? So it's a thing to consider. Yeah, well, that's one of the biggest criticisms of conspiracy culture is these multi-generational plans by The Rothschilds and Rockefellers

53:31 Some people don't put stock in that idea because, you know ultimately when you're dead who cares? You know why are your kids gonna carry on your plan also I mean this kind of answers some of those questions. But also to talk about Crow, your hypothesis that some of these people who die in the mainstream don't really die if we're talking about 2007 being the time that these meat jackets started to go on sale for people of extreme wealth Michael Jackson died apparently two years later in 2009 his last tour was called This Is It and the album that came out after his death was called Immortal

54:09 There you go, and it's not the only reference. I mean you can look even if we set aside the Hattie Bob material and said someday Okay None of this was correct If you were rich enough on this planet And had access to actual real medicine and actual real unadulterated food and water You would be able to go a lot longer But the truth is We can see, you just pointed it out. There is an encoding You can go back to any number of songs and hear them talking about lifespans that seemingly shouldn't be logically talked about The band from Australia what was it called? The big band from the 80s has this song we can live for 1000 years And if I hurt y'all make wine from your tears

54:55 I told you we can fly because we all have wings, but some of us don't know why. There's an endless litany of these lyrics in these movies that seem to demonstrate this reference to a lifetime that just continues to go on or lives up to about 1,000 years which is ironic because in the Bible I think Methuselah's the oldest guy and he's right there at about the thousand year mark. But clearly we can see these famous people dying by the numbers We can see things like Family Guy echoing their deaths before they happen There's something going on there And for my money These people are living longer than we are I just don't know how they're pulling it off

55:34 Yeah, man. I'm not sure but i am curious if maybe the Egyptians ever came up in this material because they did have some odd funeral rites and some weird thoughts about the afterlife Have you noticed anything in there about the Egyptians James? Nothing unique. There was there an article or I should say a reference to a civilization in North Africa that was destroyed by the land management system, there isn't an exact date to it but that was the idea that UFO's were utilized to basically terraform Northern Africa for whatever reason the Ebrov weren't happy with that civilizations

56:11 progress. So there was complete eradication of that, but it doesn't specifically say it's Egypt I could only guess northern Africa or maybe it was something in the Sahara which is now a desert but nothing unique to Egypt no Right on. Let me also ask you this because you mentioned to me that motivations for the BP oil spill seem to be related to an agenda to liquidate the golden billion perhaps can You talk to us about that? Yeah, it goes back to Crow's comment about the owls, you know that there is potentially two conflicting groups of people on this planet The British petroleum oil spill in the Gulf of Texas or Gulf of Mexico I'm sorry basically was talking about

56:52 the fact that BP management dictated that that happened. So they had this oil spill that came out of the bottom of the ocean ahead of time, they could utilize the current, the Gulf Stream and so forth and what that did was it allowed this waterway to go across the globe and more or less kind of mix up the matrix or this connection between the golden billion in the land management system And it was interesting that it pointed out that it was intentional. It was done by BP executives or BP senior management, I don't know what you would call it but they would seem to indicate that there are two potentially at least two groups of elite that are currently at odds with another and there's possibly this war that's going on kind of underneath them

57:38 And not only that, this could tie into chemtrails as well because before I realized that was gonna have to move. I was starting getting research where people had tracked that these old UPS planes were being outfitted for spraying under the guise of emergency response teams for oil spills. Now for the first time at the BP oil spill we saw these kind of big jet liners coming in display what we were told was oil dispersant or clumping, I forget what it was. It was either to disperse or clump the oil but they were spraying it over this supposed oil spill and then after the fact here years later we see these planes being outfitted which is ludicrous on the face of it because any given oil spill how many massive jetliners would you need to spray an area like that? And yet they are actively taking

58:27 old fleet planes from places like FedEx or Southwest, I believe. And some people have tracked to show them get converted into these aerial aerosol spraying units and then painted on the side with emergency oil spill response. So when we look at these Chemtrails, if anything about the hypothesis on the BP oil spill is true. I mean you wonder this chemtrailing is going on we're talking about downloads from the moon We're talking about energy matrices and all this stuff could chemtrail be in fact one group trying to prevent another From succeeding at something could that be part of what chemtrails was about?

59:08 That is possible. Yeah, I'm curious if there are other areas where you guys see this conflict bubbling up to the surface because you got to assume that it's largely under the radar but something like the BP oil spill or chemtrails You know sometimes they can't hide their attacks on the other group if this were to be the paradigm that we're involved with Are there other areas where you see the conflict bubbling up? There's also talk, personally and I let Crow know about this too. I've started to kind of look into the idea of the deep state and the group of people that more or less run this globe and how there is always conflict so interesting hypothesis was that this most recent S&P crash it was like a point-and-a-half and everybody panicked That was basically one group of the elites boring with another one making a point letting them know

59:59 You're doing something that we don't approve of so we're gonna wipe you out in a single day, whatever it is. It's interesting that me and my wife and whoever else is 401k sit there and worry about your future 30 to 40 years And for these people it's nothing they just completely will manipulate markets They manipulate the S&P 500 global currency so far then it's just a game for them basically when they're coming into conflict with one another their utilizing the power to basically move markets and they're basically just pinging each other, dinging each other. Yeah you've got to consider too that what we see is you hear so many people refer to the elites as being psychopathic and almost anyone you meet on the street and talk to about this doesn't understand how someone could have that mindset and they almost always say I could never be that way As i say this, I know this is true of myself

1:00:51 So consider a group of elites that is vying for power, and yet all of them are kind of psychopathic in this way where they play chess with the population in the way James just described as one example. Would you want to be in a world where they've kind of boiled it down to this group of psychopathic people all vying for power? And then to top it off to consider that there are at least one other group, if not two other groups that are clearly conflicting with each other. In this context we've kind of said the owls and the spiders but you know think about like the CIA or some of the military wings who clearly have global reach and all this military power

1:01:33 If I had to estimate, it seems like if there's anything to the Seabroth system it doesn't look like they have a clear shot at the goal. And there is even the story of Hattie Bov supposedly intervening in 2006 and by the words of some his fans saying he saved the human race Yeah, I find that really interesting. So this guy is doing oil work you know deep depth work below the earth He discovers one of these complexes he unravels This whole land management system and this whole alien context And then he decides to do something about it i guess he finds out how it works like clockwork

1:02:14 interrupts the program and interrupts the download. I think that's interesting, and then what year did Hattiebov die? And there is some speculation now that I've heard you talk about that there was foul play involved in his death Yeah, there were two dates. I'm sure I grabbed the right one. It was 2009-2011. It doesn't spell out specifically that he was assassinated or murdered but it did say that Hattie Bowe did leave this life in a similar fashion to a...I believe his name is Nikolai Levashov and sort of a radical philosopher that was murdered also in like 2011, 2012 I think. So it doesn't directly state that he was murdered but its saying he left this planet in similar fashion as this other individual who was indeed murdered so... So yeah its goes into this idea

1:03:05 interference program and that's one that I need to get out too before I get done with all this Hattie Bowes stuff but there is a timeline out there and it's hard for me to vet it because he kind of goes back into the secondary material but it seems like in the late 80s there were three earthquakes that triggered at the beginning of this interference process. And, at the time I don't recall off the top of my head where those earthquakes allegedly happened but I looked it up on geographical, I don't know if it was the North American Oceanic Group or whatever. Some sort of a government site that listed and had a database of all these major earthquakes over the last hundred years and those three weren't uniquely identified so the paper does talk about some earthquakes that had happened in some massive tragedies but that was ultimately him starting this interference program and him slowly more or less de-assembling the land management system at the Ebrov

1:03:57 Hmm, it's intense. Exactly Man I think it's fascinating! I guess it's about the end of the road here James Is there anything you can say about the future of your research or where you're gonna be going with things that you are looking into? Yeah, I'd like to conclude the Hattie Bowe stuff or at least put an overlining ending to the story arc. There's still work that could be done with earthquakes with octaves of course and a couple other things out there that I would like to get written up on. And then I kind of would like to keep up with some of this fringe Russian research going on. I was debating maybe potentially having some dialogues and correspondence with some of these researchers that have been put in contact. It is interesting it is coming from

1:04:42 Eastern Europe and Russia where they're I don't know if it's them being Ethno-centric to Russia, but everything is always put in the perspective of Soviet Union Russia being the motherland and civilization starting there So I'd like to expand and keep on talking to people translating their work and getting it out for English reader consumption. Nice nice That's definitely interesting Crow anything to add or anything to update about your plans? I'm going to be over on the East Coast and then shortly thereafter, I'll be launching Crow Triple Seven Radio which is going to be a podcast. We've kind of hit a brick wall on YouTube where censorship and how things are operating are really hampering the ability to talk about things that matter. In building this website and podcasts, I am going to create a closer more intimate community where

1:05:36 Way more available to people and have a conversation that is made up of people who actually care for you the kind of troll system that we see on youtube. Yeah, that's key man i'm going through the kinda the same process myself layers of communication But you know, it is what it is. Well guys awesome! I definitely love this. I always enjoy a good Hattie Bob show and ideas that are just weirder than even the weirdest of the alternative community We all know Crow's YouTube channel is crowcrrow777 James would you like to give the people your website in any contact info before we wrap it up?

1:06:16 Yeah sure it's www.sagesigma.blogspot.com and then I have a handle on Twitter, SageSigma and then I also have email again at sage sigma at gmail dot com so yeah love to hear from people very cool thanks again guys enjoy your days Alright, thank you. I always have fun speculating with those guys, but i do want to swing back into some shows with real historic or practical information. But I think there's some room for one of these out-there speculative shows every once in a while So of course in the first hour we talked about the four epochs of the Ebrov The Fleshjacket Object 440s and The Golden Billion

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