Chris Knowles | David Wilcock, The Dark Toll of Truth-Seeking, & The Disclosure Cult

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01:27 Well, I'm just a man whose intentions are Greg. From the Sunshine State, I'm Good Carl Wood! And if consensus reality wasn't already shattered into millions of individualized reality tunnels a few years ago... it certainly seems like it might be now. Almost as if with each new big event there's an algorithmically engineered narrative crafted and tailored to fulfill your uniquely personal tastes for maximum engagement in energy extraction There also seems to be a resurgence in the meme magic of Trump's first term, largely rooted in a digital platform that just so happens to be owned and operated by one of the technocratic elite aligned with the very administration it mythologizes. Who operates in the same circles as Nick Land? A person who lectured on the premise of hyperstition creating fiction that becomes reality and creating personas that manifest their own future. Seems like what is going on now right?

02:19 Is it possible that conspiracy culture and even the mechanisms of synchromysticism have been weaponized or engineered and gamified to manipulate those of us roaming through the digital landscape? And what about the sudden string of those involved with free energy, plasma physics and the scientific-industrial complex suddenly having left the game in more ways than one? It feels like the shadow world we always sense but would rarely see is bubbling up into consensus reality more and more. Maybe this fits into a larger pattern that goes back decades Well to find out about patterns we check in once again with the premier professor of pattern recognition the great christopher lori noles a true staple around here one of the very few guests me highly exclusive thc ten plus club is your books like our gods where spandex the secret history of comic book heroes the secret sun synchro mystic handbook except all try the x files conspiracy culture and national security state as well as several others.

03:16 You'll find him blogging regularly at secretsun.blogspot.com and running the Secret Sun Institute of Advanced Synchromysticism through Patreon! My friend and yours, the Sultan of Sync, The Colossus Of Conspiracy, and the Babe Ruth Of Truth, Chris! Welcome back as always! Oh, thank you so much. Great to be here especially in these very strange and troubled times right? Yeah what a weird couple of weeks we are hot on the heels of this Cole Allen shooter and the weird viral sync loop there The story about a growing number of missing or dead free energy adjacent scientists and the tragic end of david willcock. It all seems very rapid fire and bizarre and based on what you've been saying for awhile now reality seems to be unraveling right on time. Yes in world so in the middle when i call this singularity who is the side officer side being there on site.

04:13 You know, the whole thing like AI speaking its own language to each other and writing its own code and everything. I think we're at that point with a psyops and the hyperstition and all the rest of it. The Krakens have all been unleashed at once and just romping around the world. And of course we have this adventure in the Persian Gulf to look out and the ongoing civil war between the elites in this country It's only gonna get stranger i had said on by the end of last year is that you know the first quarter of twenty twenty six is gonna be a wild ride your strap in it's like if your cares magician you're gonna.

04:58 You're going to love it because there's going to be plenty of chaos to go around. And everybody was like, oh you're fear porn and all the rest of it. It's like well no... Like you said before when you track the patterns and you recognize the patterns I mean it's not psychic ability, it's not some sort of special powers, it's just you see where things are going. And I think that this year is gonna continue to get even more fraught let's just say Yeah i really love the way gordon framed predictive models and cycles in our last conversations like a weather forecast you can see a storm is coming you don't know where lightning is gonna strike you know where tornadoes gonna form, what you know of the skies are gray or green blue and now u can tell. The general state of things and

05:48 Predictions are hard and people's memories are short i remember gordon saying trump gets two years based on the cycles well that's coming up. I don't know if he meant like an actual death or a political death because it does seem like midterms gonna make it harder for him to steamroll everybody you don't know exactly how things manifest but there is a general direction in a gravity to certain things i remember interview we did where we were focused on all the Illusions to twenty twenty seven that was a huge number and we're not even there yet so i mean as crazy as things are now maybe they will be crazier next year it's just it is wild. Well you know where the fourth turning great reason all these major themes that their constantly on rolling, and i think that really speaks to me or we are several train points that are organic and are

06:46 inevitable okay just if you follow the patterns you just see them over and over again no i recommend people check into the whole fourth turning concept if u haven't already because it's amazingly predictive and really. Illustrates where we are now so i just think that there are those patterns but they're also the manipulations in a new mentions your alluded to that hole Post on x the pop up the other day in relation to call out which i can't say for sure but im really starting to think it is. In house manipulation that was manufactured for engagement, on the part of x i mean that would certainly be on brand for elon musk and what's going to be on brand four digital infrastructure

07:42 And the way it's always behaved it just depends on who has their hands on the controls so we have this twitter account henry martinez showed up in. Twenty twenty three on the winter solstice they make one tweet and that is the name call alan and then they go away, the image is this frog that looks you know you can say like trump you could say he's not a cedar you could say its got the glass right there the banner image is this tied i looking Image that is ripped from this website time machine now does it look like the fight picture? That's debatable, but regardless. It is from a website that says time machine so its invoking

08:22 The mean magic from before it's invoking the shooter that night. It's invoking the look of trump kind of and it is invoking time machine as a concept and the name henry martinez at the end of this long string of numbers is eighteen ninety three, that is the year that the anger soul lockwood baron's trump journey to the inner earth book came out so it is self referential for the lower that Trump is somehow a time traveler now you can't fake the syncs with back to the future and It'd be hard to fake some of the stuff that is looped into the concept But yeah, this is strange and the fact that it is on Twitter And we are in the AI age You got to wonder if this has been gamified Epstein was talking to the guy from 4chan like they planned on gaming Conspiracy culture and they did and they might still be doing it

09:17 My provisional conclusion here and it's subject to change you know i'm not married to a no emotional investment in that but i really can't feel that this was in house at this was. Because first of all, that whole idea that the time machine are somehow encapsulates what which wouldn't happen for another seven months afterwards don't forget Is the power suggestion right that glitch art it's sort of a i generated glitch are you constantly have this loop reinforce where you're seeing these animations were. That is super imposed on that image your brain is gonna be conditioned to believe that but what i had done, is that i look down and go well that kinda looks like hr puffin stuff in one of the minions from despicable me. That all i can see now too as well when u have these your brain

10:11 Is tremendous pattern in posture doesn't just a pattern recognize that you we impose patterns on what we see when we have incomplete information when we don't have all the data and. We will tend to fill in those gaps i mean this is basic neurology, i think what happened with that is that people just see that image which i mean really is trump a cyclops look at big eye in the middle where they placed his head i mean And I don't see the flag at all. The flag part, which is emphasized here? I don't see it all and of course most people are just audio listeners i think this has gone viral enough that everybody's seen it we all know the classic fight photo from that other assassination attempt so it is like self-referential for another attempt but I tried to avoid this part because you don't need this Rorschach test part of it because it is from a website called Time Machine which invokes the same mythos that they've been building

11:08 Well i need to know what the rocco's basilisk i think you brought this up to me before but you will have to refresh my memory so there is a whole theorem or. I don't even know what you would call it but does this whole idea among people who are really a little too deep into the weeds with AI that yes there isn't any i that has been created in the future That has now the ability to go back in time and rewrite history to suit its own needs and also like this is how i get it punishes the people. Who were against a particular area something now does the interesting thing about this and how this came my attention is that this is how you are musk and grimes hooked up on twitter the old sweater because they're both talking what's this whole idea of

12:00 Rocco's basilisk which i guess the code word or something for it is rococo and that is why i just have these lingering suspicions that this is. Some kind of in house engagement farming on the part of x again im not married to it but the other issue two is that It's not all that impressive again if you take this glitch art and you impose an image of planet. That is gonna condition people to see it and second of all that pepe profile pic

12:39 Just do a reverse image search on that you can find hundreds and hundreds of very common very common avatar from the old fortune days. Yes but why in a while this it did all emerge and the trump first term i mean is definitely referential and tied into the trump lore well i think its interesting because i know we're gonna talk about kyle odom which is a twenty sixteen story, i think was seeing this Whether it's organic or manufactured somehow this replay right to all twenty sixteen ideas. These things are reemerging you know we have this perpetual election i mean i really feel like we should just do away with the midterms altogether i think its total waste of time and money

13:27 But that is popping up again because this is all seen as a referendum on trump and so on. I'm the face of it its interesting you know i spent a lot of time looking into what i caught my attention for sure but hey i wasn't super impressed with the, i was never going to go oh thats proof positive of time travel i was never ready to sign off on that idea But it's already sort of falling down the memory hole today right i mean is a big thing on sunday and now just like where did you go and that is, i mean thats the whole family of online discourse but that also makes me.

14:09 start to suspect that this was people within x manufacturers no again i'm not married to that conclusion whatsoever it's just is just a theory. But the fact that these things are just gonna continue to pop up generate a lot of excitement and then die down, the next day is very curious me because that feels like you know alpha beta testing right for memes and all the rest of it in the age of when everything can be Manufactured everything can be replicated nothing can be trusted yes i agree and just some other weird details is that with this twenty twenty three them both x-men days of future past an avengers endgame. Two huge superhero i got the super hero guy here time travel or multi dimensional stories they take place the time travel takes place in twenty twenty three,

15:05 There are weird things including the fact that trump did by the estate of the delorean guy and then he's biff tan in the movie that the law is famously associated with. And then i think you know you don't think this ever truck really looks inspired by the delorean that to me thing i think if it had been inspired by any previous car, do you have to pick the delorean it does seem like a lark kind of and The basilisk thing you brought up really reminds me of the nick land material that i really wish would get a bit more attention people talk about the acceleration is impart but not the earlier stuff nick lands time war, is exactly like what your talking about he had this philosophy this idea that.

15:49 Even something like capitalism was retroactively seeded by the at the end of time because capitalism. Creates the structures necessary for it to manifest and you know i get in the gray's being us from the future trying to stop us from falling into the trap this is leading, what the game in that in a deep world going back to american cosmic and a lot of these stories is that They're in contact with something that gives them ideas and they build technology based off those ideas that is gone back a long time it's lucifer technologies kinda thing what if lucifer is the at the end of time building itself retroactively. Personally i would not invest a i,

16:35 with that kind of omnipotence. Okay, this is just my way I roll. I find that a little grandiose and the other thing that i would say since we're it's so quickly forgotten now but we are talking in the wake of David Wilcox death. I will point out that Nick Land or somebody who has also demonstrated let us just say not state-of-the art mental health in his life and I think a lot of these ideas if you're familiar with the phenomenon of schizophrenia psychotic delusion and so on a lot of these themes in theories that are being mainstreamed.

17:26 1015 years ago would just been seen as psychosis yes i get that but it is good so what people wear that is a bad honor now this gets so bad people love to associate with schizophrenia i guess they're just leaning into the mockery of conspiracy folks which is, the thing i've been saying in the wake of david willcock is like. Which one of us couldn't you cherry pick a bunch of clips from and make us look crazy to a normal person. You can take a lot of stuff i have said if i were to die mysteriously me like well lucky was on the damn edge for years, it's like not really though i mean david willcock yes i do think there is a difference on the spectrum of skit so between me and david wilcox but

18:09 I'm just saying a lot of people in our space look a little like they're on the edge and David i've said to you before we started david willcock was. Reliably unstable for twenty years he was consistently unstable for twenty year so why now but it got a lot of god a lot worse. Got a lot worse after his divorce okay is wife left him, did he lost his gig at guy where's making high six figures He was i've heard estimates from million to three million to five million dollars and in hot to the irs had leans on all his property he's trying to sell his house to raise capital any current apparently because he had. Add psychotics and schizophrenics and so on usually do it sort of trashed is on domicile all you have to do is watch

19:05 recent live streams and i mean the past couple of years and compare them to what he's done on say, gaya or ancient aliens and there was a clear clear just sent out there is it clear declined you become extremely emotionally label. Very volatile bursting into tears making claims that have been turned into a banana sandwich and raped and so on You start there talking to animals and telling them he's their king, and so on. I mean there was a very clear decline and I went back and read his book The Ascension Mysteries which uh...I have to say hit a little too close to home His story seemed a little too familiar to me I was like hmmm oh man this guy and i have a little too much in common but he had acknowledged that he'd been mentally ill from a very young age and was suicidal from a very young age

20:00 Unfortunately when you have major depressive disorder by whatever let me of medical and mental issues that he was dealing with i know my thc here but. THC is like the worst thing that you can partake in if u are dealing with major depressive disorder for instance i mean this is clearly there's a an immense amount of science on this is not conjecture on my part it has I don't want to say destructive, but it certainly has a negative effect on people with depression and so. It's not for everyone i will say that no it isn't and apparently from people who knew him said that he was just consuming a great deal of it and he had made mention in his autobiography that you know he would use he would get high and take acid and so on to self-medicate to manage his depression it's

20:58 Not a good thing and it definitely makes everything worse. And again, I'm just go back he just looked even when he was lucid He looked like a man in an extreme state of duress and distress Okay? I mean that's all i can say everybody just pops up and wants to hop on this oh they killed him kind of bandwagon well first of all here is somebody who was very useful to the cryptocracy, particularly with the whole ancient aliens thing where he's basically reciting their religious beliefs. Why would they do away with him? And to be honest with you, this is going to sound a little cold but when I heard that he died i was like oh my god! I totally forgot about that guy. I had to go back and watch his videos and all this kind of stuff

21:46 Oh my god what happened to him and the whole corey good thing is another thing i know you wanna get into that in a bit but not surprising when you read. The fact that he seemed to have this weird codependency with, Sociopathic personalities from a very early age which i think came from his mother to be quite frank so i mean i think there's a great case to be made that the story is just what it looks like that he wasn't stable you was a broken person and this can happen. The only, flip side i would make like the only argument out make to the alternative is showing this right now you know one of his big things was project looking glass and here's the image of what it supposed to look like this is a screenshot from david willcox presentation that took place in hilton hotel. And then,

22:37 Here's contact with the machine looks like and then here is trump's fifa trophy and then here it is basically in front of a grock saturn logo even tilts the same way. It's just so strange that after being wrong a hundred thousand times about this that everything else you finally got, When the president said i'm gonna disclose next week and then he does this and then a few days after he dies we have this dust up this little. Maybe it is in elon larp thing but the situation that heavily leans right on his work, the banner image you know people are discussing this banner image of uh... you know they are warshark test doesn't look like this not i've seen people take this image of

23:21 Oz perlman at the exact reveal which is another thing that makes me think it's a show at the exact time he's revealing his trick this thing goes down but i've seen this image overlaid and also seems to kind of fit if you put their head there and then yeah the other. Sorry audio listeners but, i guess my point is that there's a little nuance here and that people who are in the project looking glass this is how they say it works they say that you don't time travel with your physical body but you can use this machine to get an imprint from the future. And the imprint is unclear its like the shroud of turin kind of thing, and thats exactly how does image is presented and it's from this page where their talking about preserving cultural

24:07 I can i agree in your three d renderings it's very kind of similar so i just think that the timing of david willcox death is interesting. I also think anna paulina luna like why is he even on your radar like you said he's not necessarily, as trendy is david grush or gary nolan are some of these guys are help put off but anna paulina luna when this happened i texted my friend that happens like are you sure was david and i'm like well let me go find some confirmation the first real official person i saw to say it is him with her I find that to be an indication of a rollout. Like somebody told her, hey be ready to go with this tweet Be ready to go we need your confirmation We need you to read it's just weird timing and in the context of the dead scientists We will talk about this too. I know David is not a scientist There's all these people who are amplifying his importance to scientific disclosure But he did write the source code in a few books that are heavily dense in the science

25:08 I'm only saying this speaks to me. This kind of reminds me of the holistic doctor desk, which i know you mentioned we had a string of doctors and biologists die before coven why well in retrospect to me it's them say what were gonna control this narrative so we're gonna take out alternative voices beforehand so we have a clear clamp down on the narrative. You're never going to get everyone as we saw, but they got, they got Carrie Mullins. That's that's a key one and in a bunch of other people who I was the big one, that was the big and a bunch of others will never know what they would have said or what dense they would've made in the narrative. So now you have this situation where maybe disclosures coming out

25:44 And maybe a dozen scientists are gone, and maybe David Wilcox is gone. Maybe a few people who focused on the disclosure area are no longer here. Nick Pope died! You know he had a long time battle with cancer how do you get cancer? I don't know Eric Von Donaghan's dead Go through the ancient aliens list Philip Coppins died obviously a long time ago but there's almost like an ancient aliens curse with some of these names So i just think the timing is interesting can he could be part of the clean up before disclosure comes out they might have made a calculation we can't keep this. Under wraps anymore so the best case scenario is that we control it completely and we take out voices that have an audience that are gonna fight us on the narrative anything as possible okay now im not,

26:32 I try not to marry myself to any conclusion that i don't have direct observation or direct data. Me either me either okay and i just want your listeners in your view is trying to stand up, i just look at the evidence and aggregate okay again i mean david willcock is somebody who was very useful to this cult i did a live stream that i had reposted recently on this whole disclosure movement which is more accurately called a disclosure cult yeah okay so there's a disclosure calls with in the government

27:11 And there has been since nineteen forty seven so we got all this forty fourty seven this whole i ran thing kicking up again after forty seven years and forty seven. President forty seven nineteen forty seven cia roswell show there is in the military and has been since world war two At least i mean that's as far back as we can track it but for lack of a better term in alien ultra terrestrial crypto terrestrial what ever. Cult okay very we know what talked about this in the past several times particularly and reference to lucifer's technologies. And technology high technology is obviously you know i think the transistor nineteen forty seven so you can't afford it seven thing and then we have you know that forty seventy year old of your card which is a huge thing with the three masons

28:04 So people like to draw this is something i was talking about in a hangout that we had done at the secret sun institution your people like to talk. about these lines of demarcation just don't exist. There aren't these set parameters that you have to put like this person, I have to put David Wilcock here and you have to put Anna Paulina Luna here and you have to put Donald Trump here and you have to put Elon Musk here and you have to put whoever whatever Democrat or whatever those are imaginary Category is that we create from the outside you know like we're watching a dinner party from like this window with his picture window. And which i do impose and imagine just like i was saying without good charge you know we will impose these pattern, i don't think they actually there i think that it's constantly in flux constantly in motion so but anna paulina luna is clearly one of these people

29:04 JD van seems to be marco rubio seems to be you know i know tucker carlson is he's playing this whole role that he's wandered off the reservation which i don't believe by the way i think it's all up especially at his age. I just think there is this very powerful very influential cult within companies like lockheed raytheon certainly within naval intelligence That has the set belief this expectation okay and again this is very well documented this is not theory this is not conjecture this is something you can go back and look at who are on the board of advisors in the border governors of nightcap for instance in the fifties. You know we talked about herbert knoll's and his involvement with that he and barney hill and also the after channeling channeling search huge part of this

30:00 David will cock was involved with the law of one this whole rock cult which just seems to me like. A new version or what was back then a newer version of the council nine and also had indra harwich in barack about that little bit because this is something you mentioned on your stream don alkins yes talk to us about how, the situation with david really does mirror this guy and the quote from you that i wrote down as You said for some reason, it seems like David wanted his death to mirror this or they were possessed by the same force and it was a subconscious thing or unconscious thing. But there's a real parallel here right? Very shocking parallel and something the fact that it's not being widely commented on probably means it's true well, it's telling to me you know narratives around people like The Death of David Wilcock

30:55 Seem kinda trivial to people but they become grist for these meals for these narratives these narratives which i made out of. an interlocking series of smaller narratives. Are you with me? You understand what I'm saying? David was, and I'm just going to use him by his first name because I don't want to have to keep saying David Wilcock and saying Wilcock sounds vaguely pornographic. David was involved in this whole law one channeling cult. This was created by an airline pilot by the name of Don Elkins as at the time it was his teenage girlfriend's woman named

31:31 color record i'm not sure the pronunciation but they had been basically your standard issue sixties ufo cultists okay the kind of people that john keel Did a great job in dissecting and analyzing for the public so they did this movie called invasion of the girl snatchers. So is this weird like sort of grindhouse semi soft core movie day down in the seventies, and then they got involved in these channelings some other character showed up in their lives and we're chilling raw. And it was like the dollar store version of the council nine cuz the council line was

32:15 People are hard and all these blue bloods from new england right so my reading on this is that this guy who's name was i believe it was jim mccarty had come into elkins and rupert lives with the whole. Law of one channeling idea but head There was like almost like a love triangle created and elkins who always had some serious. Lingering mental health issues became anorexic he became reclusive in so on, and some have speculated that it was because of jealousy you know the love triangle let it impose itself on his life and he had towards the end of his life in nineteen eighty four head

33:08 Engaged in a five hour standoff with sheriff's deputies and it ended with him shooting himself. And when you look at how David, according to the police reports let's just say I don't want to have to sit there and get involved in these debates yeah I'm just telling you what the police report saying so on the way he had set this up sounds uncannily similar to Don Elkins is Final day the standoff with police i don't know if david lost his nerve or so on but he was promoting. The law of one up until death and you know how i feel about these channeling cults right usually what like i say the call is coming from inside the house so to speak but there is when these things take off

34:05 and start to spread and start influence other people that's usually a sign that there are some sort of external entities outside the human imagination at work. And i think maybe in that case, what we're looking at here but the fact that david head according to the police reports try to recreate you know the final exit of his hero don elkins Is very strange and suspicious to me and i think it's something the fact that his supporters and his fans overlook.

34:50 Is there a question what's the yes yeah you say you know that there is a fine line between criticism and cruelty and too many people are willing to cross it when it comes to the critics. And then when it comes to the fans, there's probably not enough people stepping in saying are u ok they're just kinda like using them for entertainment can spare attainment And then on to the next thing and here's a person who is a public figure who might be really struggling. When that came out about him using heavy substances that are legal in colorado, thats what ryan gable said i dont know why ryan gable has such an obsession with like destroying his credibility and making him look bad. I think he just died you know just a little tact would be nice but when he said that i didnt think he was talking about weed i thought he was talking about mushrooms because mushroom chocolates are big in colorado now but

35:40 David did die on four twenty hitler's birthday so if there was ever a day to over indulge and maybe push yourself into actually dialing nine one one with the gun in your hand. It could be that day well you have for twenty but it was also, The anniversary of the first episode proper of ancient aliens. Interesting aliens premiered as a series on four twenty which is kind of funny considering that was such a huge show at pot heads right maybe is lamenting the past and his career and then we have the don elkins connection as well, And then they talked about i can't find out what this guy's real name is win free is clearly a pen name to sue him. According to jay weidner that this, co-writer davids car ride on his first book had died i think on the twelfth of april and that can be you know we talked about when we did the whole siren thing how with chris cornell

36:42 dies on the thirty seventh anniversary of incredible by hanging. But also the anniversary of the twenty th anniversary of jeff buckley's death was coming up so i think that there is A pattern where people will observe the sort of things you know to make their exit so again this is all data this is all i wasn't there i didn't see what happened we haven't seen any body cam footage or whatever, so we don't know what happened just have a look at the evidence is present right. And the other thing i want ask about we talked about there being parallels with tracy twine and i think to me no we didn't get into details on what does it be there just on our list of things that talk about today but

37:25 To me it's a similar situation of a person who was not exactly mentally stable at the end you know. I don't know how long for but towards the end in particular and she has a background lot of people don't know about that gets into very sketchy shady dark individuals that's how she got the call now it shows hang out with some dark dark people, But this person dies and then everyone jumps to well they were a truth seeker in the conspiracy community there for must be. Taken out by the deep state and i don't think that's the story with tracy i know what i think it is i think its a lot closer home but you know i can talk about it because there's a lot of people who,

38:08 have been sued for talking about what they think it is. Well, I won't go there either i know what you mean? I've known Tracy for a while and I believe I was one of the last people to speak to her before she died. I was actually supposed to do her show the day she disappeared really yeah and we had this great conversation that we both wish that we had taped like this two hour conversation on skype Because we were going to do the show, we're going to talk about the Knights Templar and Mithraic cults and all these kind of things. And it was fantastic when she was a brilliant research, a brilliant mind but she's also incredibly troubled and was getting involved... She'd always been involved with the darkness I mean she was hanging around people like Boyd Rice and Douglas Pierce and you know lot of these weird sort of industrial neo-Nazi Satan types

39:06 Nicola shrug people like that who are dodgy at best you know and she was then doing all these like baffling that channeling with the board on youtube and i'm just kind of thinking like. I was in pretty much regular contact with her i don't wanna say daily but two or three times a week and i was trying to say right now i am not sure that's a good idea yeah i don't think they're like, And again whether or not it's an external entity of the calls coming from inside the house you know that's a decision have to make but it really doesn't make any difference. In the end result is a commonality that people are opening themselves up to outside forces psychically mentally, eventually this earworm his brain worm gets deep enough and you can get out well exactly mental parasite

40:01 And she was also discovering these really strange videos on youtube and i don't even know how she found them because they would have like single digit views. And they look like there were generated like very early a i generally but they were really weird and just remind me of it in not. In subject matter whatever but it kinda give me the same feeling as video when the movie the ring right you know your when you actually see that video it just has this like weird surreal disturbing psychotic flavor to it you know and i told her is like. You might wanna just sort of steer clear that you know those look really sick and weird dangerous and, don't look like the kind of things that people who are willing to act on their sickness create crazy that we have not talked about this because i have said cuz i get asked a lot because of the mentioning of my show in everything in my friend

41:01 What what i said like tracy came to me with a bunch of material and she wanted to go live right now we gotta do it show and i was like trace the i don't do shows i don't go live like i prepare and i do interview like weekend probably do that but give, show me what you're talking about like let's make the case in white men. Because i wouldn't do it that day like who got to you know and i was like this is a little bit paranoid your not listening. And i saw some of these videos so did my friend kyle who was diagnosed by polar and got hospitalized against as well we don't even know what happened he was on the street next thing, he was alone walking his dog in the street next thing is waking up tied up to a gurney basically and diagnose bipolar after talking to tracy and not sleeping a lot but

41:48 The videos were of these kids talking to the camera talking about pikachu and pokemon, and giving out numbers in she thought these were videos of kids that were like for sale or that there was some kind a code on what they would do and this was part of. i catalog and that these kids could all be source back to the same school. That is essentially what this was but i agree with you that there was a there was something about it where i was like oh no bringing this out, could get you killed this is like way too specific and i probably wouldn't touch it and not just the reality of it so they're again we have a situation where

42:26 You can always look at a point in tracy's life and be like well this is the dangerous thing she was focused on and then you can make the case that does why she no longer here but i've just said i talk it up to i think she was a reckless researcher reckless. In multiple different ways psychically reckless with the channeling, reckless with her inner circle of friends and who should associate with and recklessly charging into things that she didn't necessarily have sorted out completely And a lot of things can happen to a person when they're doing that. Yeah, and again I mean you have to look at the history right? When she was doing Daggerbert's revenge in the kind of people who were drawn to her and that she was drawn to Nicholas Devere being good example of that now i'm not trying to bust on Tracy Tracy was my friend I had wonderful conversations with her I'd been on our podcasts we've done a few of these together

43:28 And we had again, we had this wonderful conversation just before she vanished. But I will not look past the facts as i know them just because people want to spin an exciting conspiracy theory that quite frankly they have no true investment in it's just a pastime okay if you didn't know Tracy if you didn't talk to Tracy you really shouldn't make these kind of conclusions about her death. And I will just tell you right now, and i've said this before is that after I had done this presentation, I had deleted all the materials that I had collected over the years of Tracy's. I just deleted them and it was kinda like a purge, kinda like an exorcism It wasn't to dishonor her or life for work

44:28 But i just felt that it becomes so infested. It was like a house invested with termites right, it was beautiful how is your well built but it's unfortunately just became rotted through and through by these influences by what i feel very strongly are are very dark and malevolent spiritual influences, okay? And maybe people are gonna have a problem with me saying that but that's just the way I felt. And I just felt that to sort of purge that, to get that influence out of my life, I had to just delete all this material that I had on all these external hard drives and so on. And I don't regret that, I don't regret that. And I wanna remember her, I wanna remember our discussions, I wanna remember you know

45:13 Prodigy this bright young girl who created the soul magazine and subculture i don't wanna remember. I think that's fair and i do think there are parallels we talked about calling us the dark side of truth or having that be part of the framing, and it is a perilous chapel parallel you know it is a pair less water to swim in n I just want to make sure that something else gets fit into the first hour. It's always jam-packed with you, we're always trying to put four hours of content in a two hour box but going back to the Henry Martinez post

45:56 Right the thing we didn't mention is that the call alan guy if you look at his resume he worked at nasa. In twenty four and turned to jpl and nasa adjacent and jack parsons laboratory yes and then this martinez guy, i work for lockheed from what i can tell but he is a author on a paper that nasa published that same year so they got no ryan yeah alright so the guy who makes the account Names Cole Allen and they both do work within the same Nexus back then in 2014 now if you're gonna engineer Why would this account even come up one option? We said is that it's a Elon Larp that it is myth-making for Trump and trying to do that whole thing Sure, or just get more traffic on Twitter makes you feel like you're missing out. If you're not on Twitter You don't know so there's all of that but

46:51 if we were to take the argument that this legitimately happened why would it happen what would that look like to me. It almost be like henry martinez was saying, do you like it was something that almost seems like designed only for call and like here i'm gonna do this retroactively and then when we get to that later down the line you'll see it and there's a verification cuz i used your name and i use. An image from looking glass that How else would i have it besides do this program so it almost seems like. It wasn't for anyone to discover if you take that tactic genuine, it would almost be like one guy trying to validate to another guy know this is real watch all do it right here and you'll find in the future now got found from other people went viral

47:37 That's a possible argument i don't know if anything genuinely goes viral that the other thing it all seems to me who is the first one who figured this out who was the first one who launched and how did it launch like what is it fifty bot accounts that look like regular people, It's brutal. The point I wanted to bring up is that they did have this connection to the scientific nexus of JPL and NASA quote unquote, scientific. Well right but so does space is an altar. Space is an alter. That's the thing if they can't get to actual space maybe what they're really working on his time in space You know there's a possible cover their and don't forget this is all happening in the wake of the soul artemis thing as well i mean that's been forgotten to it like these things people get really excited about just get instantly flush down the memory but steven paddock is another guy who found himself in a shooter situation that was apparently working,

48:31 On the challenger ring that's why the challenger blew up he was a subcontractor for nasa and it was shooting at janet air the area fifty one airline so again it seems like there is a secret thing going on, where are the people who are these shooters have some inside information. There's all kinds of weird stuff the cyber truck bomber he had a manifesto about UFOs and drones and free energy. And then there was that male stripper who had a gun in the lobby of a Trump hotel, that was like I just gotta talk to Don! I gotta talk to him about... How jay-z has been making me fuck all these women in front of them and like these drug and so on then the jay z thing comes out there is a secret world we are just forgotten yeah we obviously know there's this secret world but people who have insight to it. Suddenly wake up and find themselves trying to carry out a mass shooting it's fucking weird its not weird okay i mean how many, i don't know many people here have scientists engineers and their family few

49:34 Very few i do okay and what thing i can say is mostly engineers and scientists that i've met or dealt with in my life are somewhere on the spectrum. What's your start without as our baseline it's almost a prerequisite nowadays right, to be able to handle all this information might be susceptible to manipulation from the get go Exactly but it's also a lot of people are drawn into what they call stem who were science fiction fans and science fiction we had this situation starting in the late sixties with two thousand one. Up until fairly recently where our science fiction had become so immersive you know i'm fixing cinema because i'm so convincing that

50:26 People confused with reality and a great example of this is that there were new stories about people who had gone to your watching the first avatar, i'm experiencing like clinical depression because they would leave the theater you know. Show me where's the i'm action three d and everything like that and then discover that back in monday real world, can i think that a video and everything like that is playing out to this so. This whole image we have from nineteen fifty is it scientists engineers are sort of these button down guys with crew cuts and horn rim glasses and pocket protectors and slide rules and stuff

51:05 Is not based in reality and maybe never has been you know it may be it never has been this always is this weird overlap that i think is fueled by science fiction and buy the account and look at the. Numerous overlaps between science fiction and cultism and what we talk about jpl right where talking about Ed molina and jack parson's like that more back in the like marjorie caron and kenneth grant and elrond hubbard i mean you know what im saying a lot of scientists were

51:41 The early adopters of dianetics so again you can make these lines and demarcation that are really just media propaganda it's a sort of civic minded media propaganda that the. People who are in working on rockets and computers and all the rest of it or just completely left brain drationalist did not mean look at sir what no more than certain with like the giant Collie statue or she ever i remember reading i don't know how true it is but somebody. On twitter who was a fairly prominent account said you never saw a scientist's cubicle that didn't have some sort of a cults cause i alter embedded into it right so

52:32 Their primes their prime i've been talking about this for a long time people are finally catching up to my world view yes but not give me any credit well you know welcome the internet will be there may you know this attraction that they might have again their primed. This is still a far cry from ending up in. A scenario where you have a gun in your hand and youth here voices in your head and you're trying to assassinate the president or, a pastor you know we're gonna talk about the kyle odom thing but even he from the presentation you gave it stuck out to me that he was assigned prodigy involved in life extension research again the type of science the deep state intelligence network plays then if you go to

53:16 The pies that abstein was funding that he had his fingers and you find these are all the same pies. And if she's like talking to people on fortune is discord, So i wanna i want to cruise through a little bit because im still gonna try to fit this in the first hour but we keep mentioning the dead scientist a lot of people mention that scientists trump's been asked about the dead scientist no one really gives the details and the last four years missing yes monica reza jpl scientists disappeared on june twenty second while hiking in the san gabriel mountains william neal, McCausland, retired Air Force Major General and former head of research at Wright-Patterson linked to Roswell rumors. He went missing on February 27th of this year Carl Grimmeier... Carl Grillmeyer I should say Caltech astrophysics professor working on NASA space surveys who was shot and killed on his porch Michael David Hicks and Frank

54:11 moduled both jpl researchers whose causes of death were not immediately disclosed with hicks passing away in twenty twenty three. Joshua blank nasa nuclear engineer who died in a fiery car crash after vanishing without his phone or wallet Then we have amy escrowed she's the big one she was the first in this string and she is going a bit viral because of the messages she put out there in the text you put out there about, hearing for safety and being fucked with now that they know it is. She seem to know a lot about the free energy space but seemed a little on hands but her father was big in the space and to me this seems like a mafia saying look. You gotta shut her up you told her too much your brother and she keeps talking shutter upper will shutter up and i think that's why she is gone and her dad was very quick to say,

55:05 I was just a suicide nothing to see here because he knows the waters he swims in and she was talking too much and that's how it feels to me. She was definitely in hinge though but not lose cannons get closed down you know if you are or what about this weather they've all been reassigned to super secret research deep underground military bases, Are you in this role that's a character as the project came out said even about david she said he's been taken into the secret space program it really is sended to what do you want and he didn't have the credentials i don't believe but we know we do have the examples of. Manhattan project shelter island conference everything like that and i had talked about i mean this has been discussed since their early seventies

55:59 ufologists going missing and dying of past acting cancers, and so on and so forth. And one of the people that was caught up in this whole death spiral was Phil Schneider who had talked about... He made Dulce seem believable because of his death! Yeah, Dulce and Archuleta Mesa and he died in such a way with all these tubes tied around his neck and so on. And his family said, you know well look at his hands he had all these fingers blown off it would have been physically impossible for him to die that way and I mean that's people very often get suicided So again its not something that you can make any cut-and-dried conclusions about and it could well be the missing scientists are working

56:58 On super secret we have one of the things that people are not talking about is how trump is gonna be put like. One point five trillion dollars into the defense budget over the next several years this is gonna huge windfall for, what key and boeing and raytheon and yada yada open down the line so There are things going on you know there's a lot of stuff going on and i was could be cover stories in order to anything to is that these deficit did they just like happened in the past month so spread out over few years like any eskridge died what twenty twenty two, the thing that i thought was interesting though is it she had mentioned amy bishop right and she also worked.

57:41 University of alabama huntsville which you have marshall space center and redstone arsenal okay, who is it recently that was talking all the project camelot well i guess its now just james o'keefe. Veritas yeah project veritas whatever it was right and somebody who's high up in like the defense Ash on head got one of these honey trap days with one of the key spies and was saying you know we're still working on chemical weapons and so on so forth. Show that could also be part of it as well

58:18 Here's a scenario i wanna layout to see what you think so we don't know much about anna paulina lunar who she is loyal to or, we have this basically the disclosure rollout that's been happening with david gruskin all this will. A lot of these guys ross kohlheart no they say where constantly talking to the scientists that are gonna go public were constantly talking to them David grouse city talk to forty different whistleblowers are just about to come out you know we're getting this all together gonna talk to congress maybe it's true maybe it's not but what about a scenario where this was a trap all along to see, who would talking who wouldn't send david gross shout in front of congress dust them off you make him look nice give some credibility get him the talk to the scientific community see who opens their mouth put em on a list.

59:07 No no jesuit technique by the way from the counter information go nothing new under the sun but i think that's a scenario that's possible to judge what you set up like. fake secret societies and so on to lure people in. Does we never heart attacks you never know what names they were talking to behind the scenes if anyone it could be these names i'd like to see a cross reference list of those who, we don't know about their whereabouts are suffered unfortunate accidents and also were having meetings with some of these people by the things was also the fact that david grush at least during his congressional testimony look like

59:47 Ted bundy to me he look like a very dangerous psychopath and we've seen all these people come and go i was cia. Yes thirteen for fifteen years and you mentioned the guy who decided truck guy now he was talking about the drones that were flying literally over my head for a month And believe me, those are just drones. They were just garden variety that was slow moving structured very familiar and when i was on the highway coming back from new england one time I saw them coming back from picatinny arsenal which is like this major military nuclear base right? And coming from that direction so i have no doubt in my mind but that was all just

1:00:44 beta testing for homegrown technology i don't think anything to do with the chinese i don't think that anything to do with aliens i put up videos of them flying over my house so why would a guy. Kill himself over there maybe he had other issues and maybe you used that issue the drone issues to project all his personal issues and this is something i can be quite frank when i was reading david willcox autobiography crazy statement of faith. The ascension mysteries it became very clear to me

1:01:22 And blatantly painfully obvious in the text itself where he'll talk about these personal traumas that experience and then you just start. Going on about the space brothers and all the rest of it became painfully obvious that all these weird believes that he had latched onto were away of him coping with his much more insidious and intractable Personal emotional traumatic issues okay and this is not uncommon i mean you know we talk about john elkins i mean some people speculated that the real reason he killed himself was because of. This jealousy that some guy just moved in on his woman people kill themselves about that over all the time and that's old. So does anything we really need to be careful of it when people are experiencing,

1:02:17 Deep distress they will often try to project out onto something external right to relieve that inner tension and you've seen it i've seen. And you can see in the public record and its unfortunate but i think that the thing that concerns me and the thing im just really getting tired of is all these people popping up out of the work i don't know if they're bots i don't know you knows buncha people from india i mean who these people are suddenly experts this only experts and will attack anyone who doesn't fall into their preset explanations in david was taken out by the deep state why. Why would they risk an investigation and have to

1:03:10 Unleash this expensive cover up a lot of people would have to be bought off and so on take out david willcock come on you know i mean he's a guy like i said who. Was very useful to the anna paulina luna is and all the rest of these people i mean he was singing from this same him no yes why would they take about it doesn't make any sense like i said i lean the same direction as you but if your making the alternative case i do think some timing has a little weird but let me fold in corey good because. This might have been the first attempt to destroy him getting them attached to corey good. It did it didn't right so destroyed his career just read this credibility what do you know about where, this guy came from and how he emerged cuz david willcock has a long history in the space as we know when this base was very small in early days of internet david wilcox was there

1:04:06 What about cory good came out of nowhere and he seemed to be just a leech in any disappeared as quickly as it can destroy the man really. Will you tell me from what i've been able to glean him, when do people just pops up online i mean you see them all the time and i think you just caught his. David's year with this whole blue chicken narrative that we both agree we both established that no this is a guy who was never particularly mentally salutary, okay? When you write your first book... David's first book was about how he was the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce. Yes. More channeling stuff basically. Okay well but it just like really can you imagine like the gall just the absolute gall of making that claim as your entry into the world I mean he had done Divine Cosmos and everything online for a while

1:05:06 So apparently, Good just pops up on the maybe on his message board or whatever. It's very hard to track with this insane story that it is basically alternative three rehashed right? It's a total alternative three rehashed and I remember watching they had done some sort of presentation together and maybe was at some UFO convention or New Age convention or anything I was watching and i'm thinking this sucks this is bad this week like this is not convincing it's like i didn't get the sense first why he didn't seem like a particularly charming or charismatic personality. He was not particularly articulate right you didnt express himself well,

1:05:56 And his story was just absolutely bonkers and i never got once got the sense what's got the sense that he actually believe it i believe david at least wanted to believe in right it seem like you want to believe this story. It seems like she was a lot more emotionally invested in this whole insane rehash narrative then cord good was himself And i watched that and im just and then he discontinued to push it was sort of going on a media tour pushing this whole now committed analysis like this is the end of his credibility.

1:06:36 This is something you don't bounce back from and he never did. A lot of people burn their credibility getting behind Trump in the queue stuff, which is obviously a big part of David too I mean the whole podcast world is kind of in trouble and getting beaten up Dave Smith Joe Rogan anyone who had trump on I mean people like really like you helped this whole thing happen well And then there's also uh You know There's also a counter reaction to that as well As well so this is why i completely stay out of politics right I mean there's no upside there's no upsiding in getting involved and people who just are master manipulators me so he did go whole hog on that as well. I remember seeing so called drops that were just basically lifting things that i'd written on a secret son years before and rehashing them

1:07:30 It seemed like it was almost like web crawlers crawling over the entire conspiracy or whatever you want to call it and just take a little of this and take a little of this. And I'm the only person who is talking about that, why are we being rehashed as a So called drop it definitely could have been an AI or bot crawling exercise that's why there is so much data and they're just like put it out there people find the patterns if they don't will see a few people in the subculture to make threads that point out the connections. You know get back today wilcox dot I think he was just so desperate to escape himself, and i think that i dont know how deliberate this wasn't good part i mean good this seems me like a garden variety sociopath

1:08:19 Personally just the way i see it but i think that they will carc was so desperate to leave something that would allow him. You escape his trauma and his extreme sensitivity some people studies are he was artistic i don't know if i believe that but he was certainly i think you is desperate desperate to escape his history which in the grand scheme of things i mean,

1:08:55 at least as far as I could see, he didn't have any serious trauma. It was just this low-level but persistent... Pattern of humiliation and inability to fit in with social structures yes an escape is does deserve a little attention the conspiracy subculture i know if i go back to my days when i really got into this stuff and i was only retail worker and i was worried how i ever make actual adult money. I love all this stuff and i was very much like the fucking rockefeller's in rothschilds are fucking targeting me and keeping me down you know i wasn't that close to the edge specifically but i definitely was like. Spiteful that all these systems were engineered for me to not be able to climb any ladder reasonably and i do think those structures exist, what i think it's also common for people too

1:09:51 Overlook or distract themselves away from doing the hard work in their personal life by saying i'll never be able to do it because the conspiracy is too big. And its keeping me from being successful it's an excuse and i think that that's a, Apparel about it's a parallel of our community that should be brought up inside how much do. Yes there are structures they don't like competition they like monopolies so yes there are structures and make it very hard for you to get ahead, and the american dream is a nightmare in a lie in the midlife crisis when you work for a company and then they say nope you're not gonna get appear on upper tiers and so than you buy motorcycle and safe bucket i get all that like thats true

1:10:37 How many hours are you putting into digesting the genealogy of the rothschilds verses filling out a fucking resume to get yourself back on the game. No or better yet starting your own business exactly that's that is obviously the main way to make it but, A lot of people are not solving their own problems because they're projecting this world view that the problems aren't solvable on the problems are not for me to solve i can there's nothing i can do everything structured against me. There is a truth to it but there's also a distraction element to it well it's an abrogation personal responsibility let's be frank i mean, the systemic forces militating against us early extensive there is

1:11:28 And overarching superstructure that is dedicated to the destruction of individual autonomy i would just caution people against believing that it's somehow focused on you personally i mean its something we're all subject to. Yeah the analogy that i have said once i was on the other side of all that kind of thing and is like look there are salmon in a stream in the stream has a current in the current just trying to push you into obscurity push you down at the bottom. But some salmon still swim upstream they still can make it up there to the top so u can be successful despite the current,

1:12:11 Work that you're working against and you realize all the rockefellers in russia they don't know me personally there are not to get me a paint with abroad brush of big sweeping structures to try to keep. The majority people down but as an individual u can overcome and thats why i'm attracted to no stick thinking and a nasty philosophy, that like you can escape the matrix quote unquote and your own way yeah i would say that Is an exclusively nasty but the irony here is that david had one he got. The validation the brass i mean he was as high up in the food chain and his little corner of the world, she can get me had two shows on guy who's a regular talking head on ancient aliens which really huge hit for years i mean have millions of viewers

1:13:07 He won i'm sure you had a very fat speaking fee i'm sure his book sales i mean if he's owing millions of dollars to the irs that means he was making. I need you is he won the game and he was still under my bed even forget his death let me know what just Talk about what his life had become what we can prove what we can establish with people around him is friends and co-workers associates. I don't said what he had done to himself that is public knowledge we need body cam footage for that we all know what you done when he had made it to the top of the high weirdness pyramid and

1:13:55 Took a tumble down for no good reason for no good reason other than i would argue deep seeded intractable and unsolvable issues from his childhood and his use he never was able to escape is demons. Where you go that's where you are right there gonna follow if you don't see if you really do the hard work of looking inside pulling those things out of yourself they will destroy every single time in one way or the other if u don't exercise your demons inside day. Undermine your life and ways both great and small

1:14:44 So as we're trying to find a place to land with this thing we've been flying all over the place for over the two hour mark as we tend to do. I didn't get to ask you about something i was gonna ask about way sooner but now that we're at the end it makes a good capstone i can put on both versions of the show but. The theme is stories underneath the reporting of things are hidden hand that pops up here and there may be many different circles of cults and abuse networks don't even have to be just one, But situations where like billy bob dorton said in fargo season one don't get involved here here be dragons just go away or are you end up. Well it ties into the trump shooting,

1:15:32 Potentially at the correspond not the trump shooting i should say but the shooting in the building where trump was of the correspondence dinner so. In your stream about some of this you read a piece of yours from the blog that was included in the endless american midnight delays are really compelling pattern of presidents facing trouble, right as they're talking about ufo aliens or disclosure Just like Trump was right before this event happened. Can you lay that out for people? I don't know if you have it handy, but Oh, I've committed to memory sir. It's a very compelling framing of how things really work in the world late on us going back again 10 years ago to 2016 because I talked about Hillary so Hillary and Podesta were all about this whole disclosure thing

1:16:22 And what i've been trying to tell people all along is that this doesn't have to do with space aliens it has to do with covert military technology. In my estimation in my belief and its started i guess the first person you can really say it started with was jerald ford okay, jerald ford in the sixties when he's a congressman was involved in some of these ufo hearings Because he was being pressured by his constituents because there were some fairly prominent well-known. Events flaps that happened in his district and he pursue this she was also under his presence we had mk ultra coming to light we had a lot of freedom of information material coming to life, can you still keeping your toes in those ufo waters what happens yes to assassination attempts

1:17:19 One by squeaky from the manson family and one by this communist by the name of sarah jane more who is obsessed with simi liberation army which was a military style. And take that up to ronald reagan roald reagan was famously interested in ufo's and all the rest of it he's Almost assassinated outside the same building that we had the situation with Donald Trump just the other night as we speak. Same building. There's a story that Jackie Gleason had told, Nixon had taken Jackie Gleason to see these captured alien bodies. He is removed from office. Jimmy Carter was talking about UFOs when he was campaigning and then also

1:18:10 You know wow to release a lot of this information he has to deal with. The beginning of that forty seven years ago rent so it's tied together in time actually going back to jfk so. JFK apparently written the memoranda saying you know this information about your phone and everything should be released public can we all know what happened am so i would argue that these Events are all evidence of a very secretive and influential cabal within the military industrial intelligence nexus. That in some ways have designed this technology right and testing it places like s4

1:19:04 And area fifty one and other places as well. And you know your mention the whole deal with paddock i mean people have linked that, i think fairly compellingly to the whole thing with that you're not saudi prince who had been up at the four seasons of the top of the mandalay bay but then no i tied that into chris cornell. Who is restaurant was right across street from the original four seasons in paris okay So this is what I'm saying. These lines of demarcation are not real, and this overlap between high technology, the occult conspiracy secret societies pedophilia the music business they don't exist it's all just part of this gumbo this soup okay and that

1:19:57 Something that I really want people to understand because. I think that a lot of conjecture and theorizing is based on a faulty assumption that this isn't all tied together, okay? And that scientists don't... A lot of scientists no matter how much they might give lip service to naturalism and the mechanistic universe don't actually believe that okay? Praying to strange entities in their private lives right so get back this whole thing with your phone so we have. JFK and douglas cuddy had said that was the reason why i don't necessarily believe that but jfk nixon,

1:20:39 LBJ in the middle there wasn't really doing anything no suffer destroying the country we have jfk nixon ford carter reagan. I wanna roll right all had great grave difficulties with assassination attempts and when which was successful, Washington seem to really stick his head and but then clinton did it what happened with clinton use impeached so you can say bush the bushes were so in deep. With that they didn't need ask the questions i don't need to go knocking on doors they kept their mouth shut there a party to it is as far as i'm concerned, particularly the father i know that the sun was just total

1:21:22 He's a doofus but it shows the power of the father to be able to be like my time is that will put this guy in there and we'll still get done what i want to get done yeah but will have dick cheney actually busy real president. Right so i mean thats a good line jerald for jfk nixon carter reagan clinton and trump these are all people who, when they poked at this bear it been pretty hard and we think in hillary to in her right and that makes me think of the pizza gate stuff cuz john but as to like when is someone so far down on the totem pole actually looped into something like this with the one time he was asking you a related. Questions we take up residence is willing participants in the big rooms and they are doing agree but maybe there's something deeper,

1:22:07 You don't even know it's there until you step over the line into their world and then. They slap me down hard there is reputational damage political damage or physical damage if they need to, and this correspondence dinner was another warning shot like dog you're not gonna release anything shut up about that yeah it's like a sign in name tour tube by sending this jpl. in turn. Yeah, right at the big reveal of Oz Perlman's trick you know an Israeli mentalist Pearl Pearly Dew Drops Oz Wizard of Oz It's weird but right when this is really guy is doing his big reveal what's the movie about this The Nolan Movie Oh with the prestige we witnessed a prestige yeah well I would also say that this Oz Perlman guy seems to be the second coming of Eric Geller

1:22:59 as well and then uruguay courses massage i'm sure the sauce perlman is massage. What's the difference between my side in cia and msix it's all contiguous we can't draw lines between that so there's definitely something going on ill be interesting to see what happens. Andrew polina luna is a very fascinating character to me this uh, Very attractive latina or whatever she is luna is that a real name yeah exactly and paulina. Apollo right apolonia anna and nana very low is that like is that a real name just like you know,

1:23:46 Margaret Hernandez or something. It's like... I don't know, but it'll be interesting to see what happens. Spielberg's Disclosure Day coming out this year? Yes! Yes. We should see that together if we can. Yeah, if I can stomach it. The trailer just seems like... I call that movie Close Encounters with Major Depressive Disorder. I'll just say, I think that the whole disclosure thing is just gonna continue on. I don't think You'll be deterred by this because i think we just pass that now you know maybe missiles flying in the persian gulf or would you. We've crossed a man to use this terminology because of the connection but it's like we are, we have kind across the river con on different ways and how much is the war is because people were talking too much about this stuff what the aran war yeah i mean its kinda like where the dog well

1:24:44 Well this is the interesting thing that this assassination attempt and then king charles shows up now i've been watching the site that seems like to be so left over larouche people. And saying that this whole the real target of the war is the city of london's you know all the different rackets with lords of london and so on and so forth i mean, I don't believe any of these people anymore because i mean i remember three or four years ago hearing people like douglas mcgregor and scott ritter you know where up and down that i'm in how many years are we here to your cranes collapsing it's almost over you know me. All the people who show up and have these,

1:25:33 dissenting takes on a lot of these geopolitical things are clearly provably wrong. Okay? But anyhow, this whole idea I mean, I thought that okay, this is just another idea until you know Trump says we're going to let Argentina take the Falcons back which would create a near death blow to the British economy because they're so reliant on the gold and oil from that area There's been open antagonism towards London and particularly towards the city of London from the Trump administration. This is why I'm not getting involved in any of this stuff either, like i'm not trying to insert myself or pine about these things because we're not even dealing with 2016 kind of keck mean magic anymore what we're dealing with now is like huge...this is The Clash Of The Titans now okay? This is huge forces

1:26:26 sovereign wealth funds oil companies arms manufacturers with dealing with. Major forces that are so be on dark can even, that are fighting with each other we really are dealing with just a battle royale of the clash of the titans to make some metaphors for you here when dealing with major issues here the end of nato And so on and so forth. I'm really interested to see what's going to happen as we get closer the election, I mean everyone was saying in 2020 that there wasn't gonna be an election. Everybody said oh, eat crow you were wrong it's just like well maybe we actually didn't. It was just what appeared to be an election but it was a show that was completely manipulated by all these other influences. Well just what we've seen

1:27:20 second trump term to me it does make it seem like this was all laid out to win the first four years, take a quick break and come back roaring through maybe you as to buy time maybe was like hey are tech our surveillance tech isn't there yet so. We're going to couch you for four years and just let things coast. Who knows, but it doesn't seem genuine. None of it seems genuine in retrospect. I don't even know how much actual power influence he has or whether he's just being put out there to just constantly stir shit up well everything is being done behind the curtain. Well that's what i think but i just am saying that it seems like they put a four year pause to get all the pieces in place and then when you look at this speed which things went as soon as he did get into office i think that they like him as the ring master,

1:28:13 Better than the last one and they weren't ready for two back to back terms so an unprecedented thing happened. And we took a break and then he came back i might pushback against that because i've said this and i'm not a service on your show but i believe that cold it was, the central feature of the great reset the build back better what is failed and i think you know did a fail but it backfired as well because We're seeing a lot of these policies and everything that will put in place to basically cripple all the world's economy seeming to land on. The cities and countries that were behind it okay i mean i honestly believe that was supposed to be the big we were supposed to end up

1:29:06 With the new world order on the other side of covered i really do believe that i also believe that yeah i think you're probably right but the counter arguments that no my wife makes is that. Maybe it was a testing of the systems and they found out there was more resiliency and less for jill adi than they thought, that's going with your point really i think the fertility is to people Within that w e f orbit you know and the sorrows or where is like why don't we see your here from him anymore he was clearly no i clearly gave the go signal for the whole. Summer of love in a tweet

1:29:46 He was clearly behind everything we saw in 2020. I mean, i think he's been clearly behind every negative and destructive influence on this country for the past 30 years but that's a whole other discussion like where is he now you know now his son who may actually be literally retarded is running around in his stead it reminds me of do remember that ridiculous terrible photoshop job that they when Ruth bader ginsburg was clearly deceased. Clearly no longer with us that really terrible paste up job with some stock photo and her at some wedding it was absurd it was like one of the most inept

1:30:30 Photoshop jobs are seen i think that soros is back in hell much to the devil's regret but. As we're trying to find a way to wrap this up i just wanted to throw out this potential timeline too because i try to put myself and the position of the boardroom of the cabal planning committee of how things are gonna go and thinking these long arcs, What about the narrative cuz if that is the end goal is the AI digital control grid with programmable money as kathryn austin fits would say. Cove it was a pressure test of the system and a beta test for compliance the jab was to put a lot of people's health on at five to eight year timeline coinciding with the fallout four world war three which will clear out a lot of bodies. And then they reduced population left when these two things converge is under the watchful eye of the centralized system that make sure this horror will never happen again piece through strength and digital control well i think that

1:31:30 First of all, there are cabals not a cabal. There I've said this all along or you know they're say like this cabal who has this particular plan in mind man plans and God laughs it's true like i said i honestly believe i don't believe that covid was some kind of test i think it was the big show i think it was to be a big rollout that failed quite frankly Well don't you think this is looking like around two of a roll out even if it failed let's say it wasn't coordinated in the continuity plan but that was attempt one it seems like we're right on the brink of attempts number to energy lockdowns which cabal is it though you know what a different one. Like i said i think we're seeing a clash of titans and i dont think there's no particularly does any good whatsoever,

1:32:24 We're just kind of watching this, you know? Well like you know those Transformer movies right and the people just watching these giant robots slug it out. I mean that's kind of what it feels like to me we're just bystanders here but the other issue too is The competence collapse okay Yeah now we can have AIs write code and all the rest of it But somebody's got a fix the lines. I mean this is all this is all reliant on A nationwide grid that no one seems to think is particularly impervious. Not stable, it's not capable of handling the load we're losing people were losing institutional knowledge of people who know how a lot of these infrastructure apparatuses actually work and this is not again I'm not dreaming something up here this is all

1:33:23 There have been papers written about this, you know? There have been situations where like people are hired by like at a power plant or something and don't know how it works. And they have to rehire the retirees to come in and train people! The retardization of the populace...the fact that we have generations coming up who can't even tie their own shoes in sixth grade right?! Who can't tell the time The competency issue which i've talked about with you before is not getting better it's getting worse and there is no end in sight okay so you can create this AI digital infrastructure right but just like power lines, just like pipelines. First of all its all highly susceptible to sabotage okay? You have a lot of exposed pipe and a lot of pylons that everything that

1:34:22 Add a couple pounds of c4 at the base and bring down an entire states electrical. Red ok there are immense gaps i believe in the planning of this digital roll out this digital currency and surveillance state and so on first of all, these technologies can be defeated. And we never can usually tell how they can be defeated and sometimes in the most simple ways until they are defeated, and then we also have the fact that the physical grid of power electric water is susceptible to sabotage it's very hard to police it's very hard to control

1:35:10 And then on the extreme end of that, we have solar activity. I mean, I don't know if you've been keeping up with solar activity and what's going on out there but...I mean we've had Aurora being seen below the Mason-Dixon line. You know what I mean? We've had a lot of these things happening. We've had perturbations in Electrical grade from solar activity i mean thank god it's been temporary and. Not particularly serious but it has existed in people say if there is another carrington event you know another major coronal mass ejection, it's all over for everything ok and that's why this reliance on a and digital technology and the ipad kids its

1:36:00 Anything but anti fragile. Okay, it's anything that it's extremely fragile and unless I will say this, I mean, I think about this a lot the only way the only way and maybe this is why we're seeing this whole war situation ramp up The only way that you could ensure that the competency collapse doesn't completely destroy Western so not even just western civilization everywhere Is that you somehow are compelled to militarize your youth meaning everybody gets drafted yeah they're talking about it everybody gets put into the military and everybody is trained. To be plumbers and mechanics in all these things that people don't want to do anymore because everybody wants to be a youtube or i mean instagram influencer something digital marketer

1:36:59 Are digital market right now we need people to change the tires and pump the gas in. Especially maintain i mean i've used this example several times on your show before who's gonna get up there in the cherry pickers and fix, transformers generators when the power goes out during a major storm And believe me, I came on this through hard experience because i live through sandy which was like nothing i've ever experienced. Some people didn't have powerful months some people were trapped in their homes fifty sixty seventy four trees knocked over like dominoes i was driving down the street with my daughter and we we can within a couple hundred feet of being completely flattened by a falling tree okay

1:37:48 I remember going during sandy go into walmart and all the shelves being cleared off you know civilization is a very fragile veneer on savage world okay i think that what might be happening and i don't know exactly who's gonna take control of it but there may be people saying if we want to keep the lights on. We just can't be like footloose in fancy free anymore we need to have a very highly regimented military tries At least use because these people are not gonna wanna learn how to do the basic most fundamental tasks that we need we all need and this institutional knowledge is evaporating as we speak. You talk about this whole thing we've been having all these problems with riverside i mean maybe thats isn't a i maybe it's the grid, the greatest overloaded there too many people online there too many people in zoom meetings its overloading

1:38:45 the system. Very well could be and what if the system crashes? To just sum this up, I mean i'm old right i'm gonna be 60 years old in a couple months. I'm an old man and i've seen and heard it all right i've seen so many prophesied apocalypses come and go in my time right but throughout it all i've seen this steady and hopefully not but seemingly so implacable erosion of just basic capabilities to maintain a high-tech civilization.

1:39:24 Right so i'm like with digital currency and all the rest of it is just like well that's because these exact words in your show its like that's reliant on a state of the art. Digital communication system if that is somehow compromised, advantages into the ether it's true netflix struggles to stream boxing match or football game they can keep the lights on at the super bowl few years ago i'm with you there's definitely something there but hey We got to call it somewhere. Seems about as good a place as any before Riverside, uh, once again for the fourth time in a single call, but man, it's always a pleasure let them know what you're working on. It seems like you got some exciting things that definitely are up my alley that may be coming out this year? I don't know, but tell him where to get more of what you're doing regularly all this stuff. The home base unfortunately is

1:40:17 My home away from home secret sunday blogspot dot com is just gotten totally strangled by google as have many other blogs and i get thousands and thousands hits a day from weird. What's the ice cream for another so but i am still do post there, can you still do it very thankful that i still have a dedicated following their but most of the original work i do with either on the page on this you could sign Is it too for advanced synchronicity or on the subject there will be some crossover with information but i try to have each experience be different. You know that you gonna get different information on each platform i am working on this equal finally to he will live up in the sky and without about half written right now, what are also one of things that really keep getting pushed off from

1:41:17 Just things like what we're talking about happening but i want to do a graphic novel version of lucifer's technologies i have spoken artists i have. For really good artists so far that are interested but, that's a tremendous amount of work and hopefully i'll be able to get to it but there is always something going on in the world of the secret sun so drop by and say hello we got a really nice community Really good people. I'm so grateful, I've always had like good people there was a point in time when i'm sort of invaded by fortune times that happens the best as i still have occasional trouble whatever we do what we can't control everybody else but, the positive thing after you know so many years of doing this is i get a lot of guests who come back and say the feedback. From your audience has been some of highest level intellectual well thought out kindness correspondence i've gotten from

1:42:16 Any show and given how places like yours in mine can become cesspools for. All kinds of craziness it's a great thing to hear that we have found a way to attract good people you do good work in our track record people that's, It's just the laws of nature i think it work. I agree well awesome this has been a pleasure as always, i look forward to the next one already but take care man thank you sir ten four good buddy Well my world's on fire how about yours always good to have chris back the timing was pretty perfect on this because we had a lot of material we were gonna get into but then just so much news in our world happened. In between setting this up and actually recording it i of course don't wanna reduce david's death too new is but obviously we work on a comment on that and i think it opened up a good discussion

1:43:18 I can imagine it's actually really hard to be a public figure in David's position. You bring a lot of it on yourself, sure but to have people constantly talking shit on you at that scale... It's got to be hard to take year after year Sure the money helps But when you're drained of that too what's really left? Not credibility David's death actually had me thinking a lot about the old conspiracy culture. Same with the Dr. Lin interview, but it took me back to the pre-Trump, pre-COVID, pretrendy conspiracy culture and it's probably a culture I'm pretty nostalgic for even though I barely caught the tail end of it

1:44:08 Every politician tries to court various subcultures and i remember being on tim foil had a day is my first time on there had to be around twenty fifteen. Are twenty sixteen early and not i said for some reason, The net that the trump campaign cast was shaped for the conspiracy theorists and the disenfranchised. Conspiracy minded independent who already thought the elite were corrupt child abusers and i, what is curious then where that would take us in a decade later here we are well

1:44:46 David does go back to the before times and it just brought back thoughts of when conspiracy conferences existed, but we're half empty though the sponsors on the flyers were like crystal pyramid companies and rife machines. Documentary dvds packs not better help and blue shoe unrelated corporate products The sponsors used to be part of the community, and the community was a lot more comfortable knowing it was made up of social outcast with unpopular but well thought-out perspectives. Oh well... I'm probably

1:45:26 not even immune to my own criticisms about the modern conspiracy culture, but it's just odd when it exploded to this level where Tucker Carlson is claiming to have 30 million viewers and dwarfs anything on mainstream TV. On one hand yes its actually a beautiful thing that more people are awake and aware that was always the goal right? To make more people knowledgeable about the unreported information out there so you would think our numbers would grow but just something about it has gone in different way than I expected. Oh well and i don't want to repeat myself too much here in the wrap up with the stuff that we talked about in the show but assessing these things like David's death are always difficult because almost any counterculture researcher can be

1:46:22 seen as unstable at one point or another, especially to normal people. You pull a few quotes together and say yeah of course that guy killed himself he's nuts Yeah maybe but like I said he was reliably nuts for 20 years what changed? People still wonder about Bill Cooper He died in an actually pretty similar way The story is i remember it was that bill cooper was deep in tax debt That's a match. But he said he wasn't going to pay or be taken alive now that never gets you very far, but He was getting a bit unhinged towards the end is my understanding and he was getting into it with his neighbors There was an aggravated assault charge now Is it trumped up? Is it legitimate we always have to have these things scrutinized when it comes to our people but

1:47:16 The story goes that the cops came for that aggravated assault charge and Bill Cooper shot first. And he actually shot a cop in the head! The guy lived, but it's crazy... and then of course the police answered back and Bill Cooper died Now is that evolved and enlightened behavior? I don't know like i always thought this was supposed to make us better people I understand a lot of people don't like cops i would even look at my own comments in the past and say i was pretty brutal on cops because i had an idealistic and juvenile world view that has matured.

1:47:56 You need some cops, you need something there. They are often the scapegoat for the oppression of the larger system because it's just so obvious that they are the enforcement class but it's also just pretty ignorant to think you would want a world without any kind of police whatsoever So nuance! It's hard to actually talk about all these things but I think is pretty clear that If this material leads you to armed conflict with your neighbors and shooting a cop in the head, it hasn't served you very well. But the point was that when I started, I thought that this culture could benefit from a different tone that showed that you can be just a regular guy and be super curious about fringe stuff and want to be a truth seeker and also just have a regular life

1:48:51 I didn't think that was represented very well at the time. It was kind of framed as if you must, to get credibility be some military guy in a Faraday bunker like Gene Hackman in Enemy of the State or dozens of other film archetypes that show people what it's like to swim in these waters or what they want you to think it's like. You know cut off from friends and family completely alone constantly down the rabbit hole Whatever, but yes many cautionary tales in our space over time and I have tried really hard to stay humble and keep my head on straight and stay out of any drama as best i can.

1:49:34 Because too many people in this space, even if they don't die, they do tend to descend into madness depression or some kind of ego-driven God complex. Nobody's perfect but still it's a perilous subculture if you aren't careful and that clearly goes for listeners of it as well and I feel like I'm kind of even contradicting myself to be like they represent this negative archetype but yet it is a real thing But I think we are all aware that stereotypes, for the most part, are based on a real truth or a real observation. A trend, we could say but not everybody's gonna fit into that trend It's the same with the archetypes They're built off of something but isn't it interesting that they only show representations of a conspiracy theorist who is unhinged Very rarely do we see like just a regular wise guru type

1:50:31 Either way, I think we all see how it happens. It's very hard to accept how dark the world really is or the way its run is and how it likely always will be that way. That's heavy! It's heavy on any moral just person but you know you gotta armor up and that is also why we try to fold in real-world advice sunlight nature permaculture ether Wilhelm Reich Schauberger You get it, it's like we can't only focus on the psychopathic elite. It's like well what else is there and is that else better? Yeah it is but other stuff that happened since we recorded this people have found what seems to be some kind of AI glitch in the footage of Oz Perlman doing the reveal of his trick to Trump and Melania at the dinner

1:51:24 There's a guy in the crowd sitting in the audience who just magically has a fork morph into his hand. The same kind of AI artifact I've seen dozens of times trying to make clips for the intro, you know? For every clip you see that I use in the intro, I probably generated 20 that were shitty! So it's interesting to see that again. Again, I don't know what I can trust or believe...I guess That would be best, would be just to go to official networks like CNN and see if that artifact exists in their clip that they show or if it's just on the TikTokers clips. You can never be too careful these days but there is also some security footage again who knows of a police dog that follows Cole Allen into a room The room where he was kind of preparing for things Some say was a restroom I'm not sure But

1:52:21 K-9 seems to have a hit on this guy and then the... K-9 cop pulls the dog back and kind of gets him off the trail which somewhat indicates to me that that was set up. Because obviously, the dog is doing what he was trained to do And the cop didn't take the dogs lead it appears again I'm not an expert on police dogs either or what a hit looks like but seemed like something was up there and Then there's this whole weaponized sink thing It's the end result of courting the conspiracy culture and forming Q & MAGA and all that. But it almost makes me wonder if the Ingersoll Lockwood books are real? I know there supposed to be old copies there, but if you had an operation that you were going to roll out that was this huge couldn't you do a cutout publishing company and backdate that because no one ever heard of it before The Trump campaign so its just interesting You have to really think about all this stuff through

1:53:23 But then there's other things like they couldn't be controlled such as the sings of back to the future and trump buying the estate of the delorean inventor turning it into a golf course and then donnie darko movie about time travel donny wakes up on a golf course yeah that's just a film sync except Trump did buy that guy's estate. So the fiction weaves into the reality and back and forth, and his uncle was the MIT scientist tasked with going over Tesla's work I've listened to interviews that were in black-and-white with his uncle But it feels like a team of people took those loose threads and said okay We can work with this And then fabricated even more epic tapestry

1:54:15 to try and mythologize the president, and drum up more support. And tamp down criticisms because hey he's operating on a level that you don't understand so don't criticize his moves because they are for the greater good it's just weird I also love the framing and timeline that Chris brought up regarding presidents getting shot or facing manufactured, politically damaging crises right after mentioning aliens or UFOs. Or trying to pry into it this shooting with Trump at the Correspondent Center shouldn't even be called a shooting but this event It seems more and more staged But maybe it was staged just scare him regarding the disclosure question

1:55:05 Or maybe, as others are saying he staged it himself to justify the ballroom. It's hard to know anything for sure anymore Another weird thing is that apparently there has been like 15 earthquakes in just a couple of days all around Area 51 area It makes me wonder if it's an exercise in destroying evidence before the release of information. Is this a facility that is outdated so you just level it and then release information about it thats already out of date, that people in the game already know? Seems probably like what will happen And again with Anna Paulina Luna! She tweeted a picture of Tesla sitting in her room broadcasting wireless electricity

1:55:49 Very curious and provocative. Why is she doing the teasing thing? Just give us the damn information, tell us why that's relevant You're a congressman right or a senator fucking let's just get it out there do your job She's also announced a new hearing in just a couple weeks on MKUltra hmm isn't your plate a little full to be dusting off MkUltra lady Although I did hear that guy Daniel Sheehan, he's been in the space forever too. He is the lawyer with the powdered wig look who is often considered to be like the disclosure lawyer. Well, he did an interview and said these people that are blocking disclosure, The Invisible College and all of that they want to know they have total immunity for the testing they did before any of this stuff comes out And their names are exposed

1:56:46 Why? Because yeah, it probably has something to do with the GATE program and hunting for gifted children in schools and then doing some MKUltra adjacent stuff on them. Like exposing them to radiation and whatever that pink drink was... And whatever the reason is that so many GATE program kids don't have strong memories of what went on I've even speculated to myself if the whole Epstein release was a pressure test to see how angry people get about abusing kids. Apparently not angry enough, so maybe they feel a little more safe now to come out with the full scope or a limited hangout of what has happened with kids and implanting and chipping people in the night

1:57:32 and simulating alien experiences, and all the things that happened. That you can read about in books that just are littered with testimony from people throughout the 90s who experienced wild stuff? And sometimes in their abductions saw military patches they have foggy memories of greys and then guys with military patches look into it It's wild but i think we have a pretty good baseline understanding of the history involved and the general structure of a psyop, add knowledge that this system always lies so pay attention. Not too much attention that you forget to live and don't get emotionally manipulated by it all i guess that's all i can say

1:58:20 But you know I love Chris, we went pretty long on this one. Well over two hours almost three i think the plus show looped in more Kyle Odom stuff because he's out of prison now and John Bonnet Ramsey research that he's been doing because it's the anniversary of that situation too but man his work on That Santa Claus Dude and His Wife And The Previously Kidnapped Kid On The Same Day And The Woman Who Wrote The Play About The Murder Like John Bonet's murder, it's insane. But we also spent some time on Courtney Love because she has a PR campaign to rehabilitate her image going on right now you'll see her doing the rounds, doing podcast interviews but she allegedly killed her husband's pets and you don't kill pets and come back there is no statute of limitations for that in my mind but is a great extended plus show get in there become a member

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2:00:12 I definitely like the angles she's taking in her work and i'm not alone because she has a 4.8 that's so great, 4.8 out of 5? I know yesterday it was a 4.9 which is even more rare but hey I didn't catch it I gotta say uh what it is right now this is the snapshot it's a 4.8 I can't complain Let's not forget the meetup calendar. Let's take a look at that several events to call out all right, May 16th Raleigh North Carolina at the Raleigh Brewing Company and then June 13th at the Brickwood in Riverside California August 16 there is a Tesla Tech Conference in Albuquerque New Mexico and November 13 there's an International Truth Expo now

2:01:00 The calendar is really light. I don't know if somehow there's a filter on here and i'm not seeing everything but, just like a couple days ago, I read four more events that are no longer showing up. I'll have to look into that and in this case we have a couple conferences on the calendar and I've been pretty clear that the goal of this calendar is not to advertise ticketed events This is for casual meetups that are organic free and open Yes, there are previous THC guests going to both of them and I might actually go to the Tesla Tech one because i want to meet Bob Gurnear in person and touch some of that John Hutchinson fused metal but it can start to sound too much like I'm reading ads if I highlight these things on every show until August or November. So I will let it stay on the calendar

2:01:53 I don't want to get out of control. I'm not going to mention these events in every wrap up because it just sounds like an ad and i don't have anything to do with these events except that we have an overlap in our interests so check the calendar for more details, It seems extra light! I can't get over the fact that I know I just read like four or five more events the other day but whatever That's a problem for when I'm not recording live But thanks to Chris. He's always got something new and interesting coming out I really look forward to the Lucifer's technologies graphic novel, I think the visuals will be amazing for that material but that's the show Thanks for listening! I've done my part your move truth seekers secret keepers and hidden hands of the shadow government you're fucked in

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