Ari Asulin | The Electric Universe, Pyramid Portals, & Our Martian Overlords

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01:30 Here we go again, Ironside Chatters from sunny San Diego. I'm Greg Carlwood and we know the planet's puppet masters live lives that are nearly indistinguishable from our own with belief systems we barely get a glimpse of and a worldview that never trickles down into the education of the masses But what we do get is a carefully crafted construct telling us what they want us to know about the Earth, the universe and our place in it despite much of it being flawed or downright impractical. They draw the line for us between what's scientifically possible and what science fiction despite routine crafts from the sky that defy those rules and suppress scientific paradigm of electromagnetism and ether physics thats more than valid

02:09 And they also brainwash us with a version of history that is constantly being upended by new discoveries that don't fit the mold, but they do very little to update the flawed story. I wonder why that is? Sometimes the lie is more about what they leave out than what they tell you, and if you do enough digging in almost every subject area... ...you'll find a real unfolding of information that seems far more internally consistent than the consensus models that they give us. But with all the so-called certified scholars kept in check by the unwritten rules of staying in one's lane and never really rocking the proverbial boat You're left to build your own world And today's guest Ari Asselin has done just that, pulling information from all sorts of suppressed sources. He has put together many oftentimes compartmentalized pieces of conspiracy culture alternative science cosmology and hidden history to recontextualize reality into a coherent yet epic reconstruction of everything that I'm psyched to get into You can find his work on his website ParadigmThreat.net and I advise you to strap in because it's gonna be a wild ride

03:11 The reality reconstructor, alternative information investigator and teller of the Martian truth. Ari, welcome to the higher side! Hi there, thank you for the intro. Excellent! Thanks man and I really appreciate you agreeing to an interview You bet this is exciting Glad to hear it i don't even know how i found your website but i do think it is really fascinating you pull in the hollow earth the electric universe model mars and a history of the earth and the elite that is the sort of epic alternative reconstruction that i would really get excited about in the early days of this show And when a person first goes to your site, they're greeted with this. It reads, Not another controlled opposition conspiracy website If you're like me, you've noticed by now that the vast majority of conspiracy theory channels in the Western world have fallen into the category called controlled opposition They were real at one point and then something happened and now they are willing controlled opposition agents

04:12 The main giveaway for a CO agent is they say a lot and leave us with no satisfying conclusions. Therefore, the goal of this website is to seek satisfying real or fake conclusions to every conspiracy right? Why not And I do like that attitude, that if something is real or accurate then it should stand up to the pressure of being questioned. And I know we have a lot of material to try and present to people but tell the audience about the research journey you've been on and the methodology that guides your work if you could? You bet! This project...and I am hobbyist conspiracy theorists so yeah I have not done this in any professional level but as a hobby

04:53 I just opened up a folder and eventually started collecting all of these bizarre memes and factoids that have been spilling through the internet over the last 10 years. After awhile, I realized if i don't keep some of these photos I might not see them again. A lot of these photos get blacklisted and they're disappear." So some of the best data that had was being collected in this folder, I decided to create a website with all the images then I started giving it some content. I just wrote really kind of ugly script of what I kind of think is the questions to be asked here and I asked myself a bunch of questions that came to mind and then set on the quest of trying to answer them.

05:31 Essentially, what I have is a huge bucket full of topics that relate to various suppressed truth or things that we haven't been told about or things that are controversial that just haven't been concluded yet. And in this huge mess, I've been trying to sort of order what I believe as you said, reconstruction of events that might tie all these things together but more importantly deduce a great deal of stuff that just isn't true. I guess my biggest goal here is to deduce things that aren't true rather than get lost in kind of the myriad of alternate explanations that are provided to us by the establishment and controlled oppositions. So, hopefully that makes sense there!

06:13 Yes it does yes it does and you group the different subjects from your site in the basically for articles and the first one is problems with the official history. And much of your reconstruction comes from the electric universe and saturnian cosmology which i am a big fan of i've got shows with both wall thornhill and david talbot in the archive, We've talked to guests about people such as Velikovsky when we can, so I really do like this radically different paradigm that these folks present and this concept that our solar system works in a completely different way than we're told and Earth has a very epic and different past. Walk us through some of this material and why you find it so credible?

07:03 You bet, absolutely. And yeah this is a great theory and once you find it you might jump on it latch onto say this isn't the one for me I know I did but some people reject this and say I'm sorry there's not enough evidence so what we're really talking about here is presenting a lot of this like he just said has been presented to people in various ways and I believe that hasn't been presented correctly yet for example Saturnian cosmology itself is a debate where a bunch of different authors are actually still arguing over conclusions, date timelines, causality of events. All of it they don't seem to really have any consensus yet and so maybe we're not really ready to present some of all this to the layman because they might reject it they'll say I see where you're going but you're not there yet So my little mission here was actually

07:53 I kind of stumbled upon this primer that helped me navigate through this chaos of truth and lies. Essentially, it's predictive programming and if anyone is unfamiliar with that term, predictive programming is where in our media, in our history news books you name it, you will find redactions that include predictive ideas that you'll encounter in the future things like racism, things like world politics. And they program you to have a specific response to those predictive events of the future. This predictive programming has studies done about it I've seen plenty in the past calling it out and movies everything, you name it's all over the place so the only question is what is predictive programming? The only question I've ever asked is every time I look at history

08:43 movies, some kind of contradiction that just doesn't fit or doesn't satisfy. I say what does the predictive programming want me to take away from this event? And so as it turns out, we actually have a great deal of evidence available pointing us directly at the real truth of all this. So much of it is tied up in A.) predictive programming and B.) literature where people are still kind-of fighting. In between that I found a primer where I can rule out things that aren't true and sort focus on what could be the truth so I can have some kind of imagination for it myself. Otherwise, just like everyone else would be lost in the myriad of possibilities. So yeah, there's still a quick intro predictive programming there but my goal for this first article then was to start a person who is very familiar with the mainstream approach that the dogma of establishment science NASA and so forth

09:41 And start with what they know because they're going to be built on that world, the rules causality is built on that reality. So we're talking about of course 4.5 billion year old earth. The sun is 4.6 billion just a little bit older. The universe itself has three times as old 13.8 billion years olds and the whole thing started with this big bang right? That's the current cosmology which is uniformitarian and sort of chaotic if you will And in contrast to uniformitarian chaotic cosmology, where things happen over billions of years we have catastrophism.

10:18 which is what Saturnian cosmology is based on. Catastrophism explains our solar system's history as recent, cataclysmic and one thing after another there was no periods of millions or billions of years involved so you know again we have these two wildly contrasting viewpoints and we need some kind of primer to navigate them I've been reading literature available and I should start with David Talbot because he's the first guy I saw, he came up with that book Saturn Myth. And for the first time anyone has presented the idea that Saturn, the planet Saturn may have been the planet that created Earth and Earth was a moon of Saturn in the origin story of Saturnian cosmology. So this was a big controversy it got shut down and before him

11:05 Immanuel Velikovsky, who was the guy who really put all this stuff together in the Western world actually was not even allowed to say his conclusion. His conclusion of course was Saturn but his books excluded that one thing for 10 years giving David Talbot this chance to make his book The Saturn Cosmology and then Talbot kind of faded into obscurity so there's sort of like evidence that the closer you get to the Saturnian explanation The more you're just going to find cover up and dispute and no primers. So that's sort of the background of this debate. Yeah, I think that

11:43 That's a really good introduction i think this audience is pretty familiar with predictive programming and i think that the logic is right that. If you look at something the further suppressed it is the more that thats probably some kind of valid conclusion and i've always liked that about this saturnian idea that saturn was once our Original sun and it's just such an epic idea specially when you unravel the cosmology we have now it's like will be a big things like that don't seem to happen the way were presented with our solar system is that its very static and fixed.

12:22 and there just isn't a lot of change in it, or obviously that change happens once in a billion years. So to think about it in this different context is really interesting. For people who maybe are a little less familiar with the bullet points of the Saturnian cosmology story What would you say are the major points in the Earth's history starting from that initial point when we basically sprung into life from the light of Saturn? Absolutely. So, that would be a reconstructed timeline of Earth's history and that will be my second article and my first article is geared towards trying to get them out of the current mindset so if y'all mind I want go over couple notes here where i see the flaws in the current establishment

13:09 Cosmology because if you don't talk about that, then people are just gonna say well NASA knows better than you Who are you that kind of thing? Sure. There's a lot of things to point out here that even to me our huge surprise Now I'd have to tell anyone that the Big Bang Theory has a lot of critics of it But a lot of people don't really know where our uniform material theory came from So let me just go to this Hertzsprung Russell diagram so 1910 right before World War I. You got Harvard creating this diagram of a sun chart, Sun Chart Diagram tells you if you look at the stars how far each star is how big it is based on its luminosity and surface temperature now this one star chart is very important to understand because it was sort of slipped in there into our astronomy without anyone having a chance to criticize it It was based entirely on the expanding universe theory

14:04 So what we're talking about is, at Harvard they just decided that the stars are this big. They're this far away and they're all expanding from a point in the center of the universe and that point is emanating from 13.77 billion years ago...that kind of thing So we're talking about separation between the belief that planets, suns are hollow versus the belief that they are solid. In the uniformitarian cosmology all planets and suns are solid therefore have a solid mass, huge mass actually and this mass is therefor responsible for all gravity now if you consider

14:42 consider the possibility that suns and planets are hollow, and that's one cover-up. You have to look at the Hertzsprung-Russell diagram for the possibility of that diagram itself being a cover up of Hollow Earth 2 since it insists on certain masses of very distant stars. It basically creates what I call the simulated astronomical universe. Why is it simulated? Because one person can look through telescope and see light years, billions of light years of distance. Another person can look through that same telescope and see a very small universe and they would disagree as to what they're looking at. So our simulated universe are huge

15:22 light years across, billions of light years across are 13 billion years old. All of those numbers come from this one diagram, this Hertzsprung-Russell diagram which was created by Harvard and I'll just point out that these guys also create eugenics, race eugenics in the same year they promoted those kinds of policies and in 1692 they were the ones who did the Salem Witch Trial to give people some context of who Harvard is. These guys were deeply religious and on a quest to dominate humanity, for whatever reason. I mean that's what their history shows so this one diagram which all of the informatory cosmology is based on has to be looked at but there was actually something way more surprising to me than that which I found which was art cretion theory the theory the nebular hypothesis which

16:11 Suns and planets formed from accretion over millions or billions of years was proposed by a man named Emanuel Swedenborg. He was a Swedish mystic, and I've been looking at his website Heaven & Hell here. He sought to explain why the Lord was willing to be born on Earth and not on heaven and hell This guy in his literature talked about life on other planets. This is not the person that people would expect to have invented the theories of modern cosmology, that people like Newton and Einstein based all of their theories on. This guy was a Swedish mystic and he had a religious agenda so there's some other examples here but I'm finding that all of our

16:55 secular sciences are actually based on religious redactions in the last past few centuries by people that we really probably shouldn't trust at all. All right, so I made that point there. and it's a good point to make your right that if you trace a lot of things back that are considered widely held western assumptions sometimes they come from strange places and if we know. That the advancement of certain ideas can be based on agenda well its important to know Who put those ideas out first so i'm with you there and it's good to deconstruct flimsy conventional models first but let's get deeper into this model you've put together from a few. Different important sources as i mentioned i am a big fan of both the electric universe and the hollow earth but the deeper we go the more radical at can seem which is why its fun stuff to consider

17:52 But let me read a bit from your website here where you say, In 1972 Ralph Juergens stated, The modern astrophysical concept that ascribes the sun's energy to thermonuclear reactions deep in the solar interior is contradicted by nearly every observable aspect of the Sun. And then you go on to say orbital and surface gravity of a sun or planet is dependent on its charge, not it mass Even though Juergens' Electric Sun Theory became the core component of the Electric Universe hypothesis he is still ignored by academia

18:40 In 1979, Juergens died of unknown causes only two months after publishing his last paper, Stellar Thermonuclear Energy. A false trail? In 2007 Wikipedia deleted the entry for Ralph Juergens. Apparently the establishment wants his theories to die with him. Nevertheless in 2018 NASA has begun to accept the possibility of hollow planets and gas giants... too little too late Well, we've talked about hollow planets and stars here before so that's probably not a shock to anyone listening. But it is that last line that I found so curious... Where do we see NASA coming around to hollow planets and stars as of 2018? Yeah did you see the article? I did but for the audience i hoped you could elaborate a little bit. I wasn't sure if that was one of several indications they were opening up on this stuff or not

19:35 But either way, I guess we do have at least one admittance right? Yeah. Just a link to the one from universeparticles.com which described the theory that 2017 theory by NASA that Jupiter has a diffuse core that might have hollow concentric circles within it. So they're coming around to this possibility because Jupiter is a gas giant and it's been impossible to explain as a solid planet until now, but regardless of that point I want just point out that Ralph Juergens was covered up even as recently as 2007 by Wikipedia even though people like Emanuel Velikovsky referenced him significantly so why would Wikipedia ever delete this guy's article? It's beyond me! But

20:20 But that they're starting to come around or not coming around to hollow planets, I actually don't know. They may not be but did see that one article and it said that NASA's suggesting that Jupiter may have a diffuse core that spread out more like in a gassy state which would make it more hollow than solid on the inside. Gotcha! To concentrate more on Ralph Juergens his whole point was suns are negative or positive you know? You look at everything in terms of electricity in the universe, and you will see the real source of gravity. It's not mass it's negative and positive." So I actually thought a lot about his theories and was able to understand how it relates to Saturnian cosmology during his time and the time of David Talbot in 80s 90s these guys did not have plasma physics or any understanding of plasma physics

21:14 I remember plasma physics was sort of introduced in the early 90s, in video games and movies and stuff long before it was introduced at school. In third grade actually had a weird story while trying to report on this. And I told my teacher that plasma is this fourth state of matter and she said no it's not It's something in your blood. As you can see, plasma in the 90s was still very new so these guys could not have understood how this Sastranian cosmology really works out if we're talking about just gravity that doesn't sound possible at all but we're talking about positive and negative charge plasma playing out and that's a very different kind of thing very different simulation

21:53 Absolutely and it's really interesting to reverse engineer everything we think we know about the cosmos and then put it in this new context. And I think you're nailing it excellent let me get to the next point here that is kind of what i'm basing this investigation on The point that Belikovsky made in his books, the point that stands till today is that all of the civilizations on earth made recordings of all these events. That these recordings may be crude like rock art pendants and stuff but they are archetypes and can be correlated into an archetype history so that was a major important point is that we have to decide if we're going to determine Earth's history by things like carbon dating

22:40 you know, cut the age of the rock. Or if we're just going to look what was carved on the rock by people who were actually there our ancestors and we gotta stop assuming that our ancestors were naive or dumb or doing it for pointless reasons instead they're doing it because it was the only way to tell the stories that they have actually experienced so that's another huge bullet point is that we really should take the testimony of ancient civilizations as possibly The truth and not discount them as we've been doing. I agree with you there but don't we still have to make some leaps of logic or draw some conclusions, to get us too?

23:23 That's attorney and cosmology because it never really spelled out in plain english obviously they use different language but we have to interpret their symbols and there carvings in the petroglyphs and those symbols can be misinterpreted of course but how do we know how can we make a good case that this is what they were trying to relate us that. This is the story of earth that it's quite weird that started with saturn as the sun. That's exactly if thats the question how can we come to an agreement on this, as i said different authors have written on this they don't seem to agree and mostly because each one has to fill in a lot blanks with their own imagination which is where i found myself

24:09 actually being able to do some of these things. I can actually imagine the origin story quite well in my imagination because i wrote physics simulations as a kid, and just am in love with physics always have been kind of just simulate things and it wasn't until i heard about this plasma style physics that i just inverted everything i knew about physics in general just everything inverted now we have a totally different kinds of reality but different type of origin story where things have occurred back then that cannot possibly happen now. We can barely reproduce them in the laboratory, that kind of contrasts so I was starting to understand this so-called golden age as a high energy period of perfect conjunction like a planetary harmony occurring in this solar system in very short lived period

24:57 that every civilization saw. And they have different perspectives on the whole thing too, and so we can pretty much start from there this conjunction and we can go all the way to here and try to imagine what really could have been the story that whole time? All of those cataclysms... What were those cataclysms? What were people recording? I think this can be solved! Not only can it be solved but i think there are those out there as you're well aware in the show that harbor the most valuable knowledge that there is. And this would be some of that knowledge, so they would do everything they can to prevent us from going down these paths to find this knowledge and put it together which is amazing to me that almost all of the conclusions are right there in our movies and media like that movie Thor, a recent MCU movie

25:47 the three ones that came out, all had to do with a conjunction. Had to deal with realms based on Norse mythology. That deal with teleportation is all right there except they expanded it into this big universal rule system rather than any local cosmic solar system rule system but they know the truth. The people who ordered those movies to exist or rather the ones who wrote the comics in the first place and they all knew the truth are raised in the truth so it's right there for us to grab this isn't really something that's going all that hard to figure out, we absolutely lack the courage to do it. And that's what I found especially with a lot of these authors unfortunately, I can't understand why they have to write their book and they want their book to be published and they're going to make compromises. So even my favorite authors, I have to say, I understand they're compromised and understand why you just got look between that layer of protection and see the truth behind it is actually something really simple. I think we can all grasp in the end so sort of where my path is right now

26:43 I like it and i am a big fan of ideas and paradigms that adhere to things like as above so below, the same processes of nature just being at different scales. And the one thing i liked was that description of the earth as something like a seed until it enters Saturn's light and then life spraying into action as a seed would spring into life as well. And this is a big part of the Electric Universe model that Saturn was the original sun, of course and we can see all those stories and the symbols of our ancestors but give us that story of how do we get from this golden age of Saturnian light to where we are now? That's the thing I think people scratch their heads on. Oh yeah you bet! Here's going to be the story now it's kind of long so just interrupt me when i'm going on too long

27:33 I will let you deliver it in full because there's a lot of things we want to get to but this is important foundational context so give us that story and then on the other side will build it out. You got it here's the stories best my imagination understanding first of all add to choose a starting point starting date, which I chose 4077 BC because Jeannot Cook uses this date and his book seems to be one of the best references for different civilizations, different calendars, different dates. But we'll point out that there are many different origin dates in many different civilizations and these things are very much in dispute so to rule out a lot of the chaos of dispute I had to just settle on one perspective where the timeline started at 4077 BC

28:23 and that is the first memory of mankind. Before that we didn't have any memory, there wasn't really much sense of life not here on earth or anywhere else in this conjunction I'm about to describe so what happens? So in the beginning you got this L-type brown dwarf system a brown dwarf system is understood to be a low energy sun that does emanate its own energy Saturn does release twice as much heat as it receives from the sun according to NASA. So it qualifies as one of these, however the current version of Saturn as we see it is a small gas giant with a ring now The Saturn as it first existed had all of the planets in it including Jupiter and Venus and Neptune and Uranus And Nibiru, the ninth planet they had all of them together inside this one gas giant

29:16 at the beginning before it encountered our sun. It was by itself and it's floating through our galaxy as a L-type brown dwarf, and this is a layered gaseous planet... or sorry now it's like a sun with plasma layers and has many layers has like seven or eight layers and on the inside of it you have this space where rock planets actually orbit on the inside so it's sort of like an inverted solar system and the planets on the inside Well, actually there's evidence that this is how planets are formed. So let me back up really fast in our sun there are sun tolerate and you have reactions occurring on the outside hydrogen helium creating energy but also creating heavier elements these elements in the hollow Sun fall to the center of the Sun they form planets these planets sort of orbit each other and when they get too big into charge the Sun actually ejects them

30:16 There's videos on YouTube where you can actually see our sun ejecting a planet. This happens, it's disputed but there are videos of it. These planets will then collect in something like an L-type brown dwarf. So anyway this system had rock plants in it and a bunch of gas in layers and it reached our suns internal system. Our Sun is a positively charged sun and the brown dwarf Saturn was also positively charged when they entered each other's environment, Saturn became negatively charged in order to compensate for the environment but that stripped off its first layer so the first layer of Saturn came off as soon as it touched our Sun and Saturn exploded this first layer explode off

31:04 This would be the first date of creation, the first origin story. The first let there be light moment before that Saturn was sort of dormant and after that moment Saturn was receiving energies from the Sun tremendous amount of energies that were changing everything about it for example That first layer stripped off a huge gaseous layer of the brown dwarf Saturn is stripped off and became Jupiter Right away you have a creation of Jupiter at the beginning of the origin story, and this is referenced in several mythologies that Saturn, Kronos, and it goes by different other names too had a bunch of children. Saturn was alone with the children did not have other siblings and Saturn did eat these children and did spit them out later so the mythology confirms that this brown dwarf was going through this transformation stripping layers off of it

31:57 and these layers would become gas giants. And then the energy that flew through the Saturnian configuration would force everything within it into a co-linear alignment. Why would this happen? Well, you basically have tremendous amount of energy flowing through all the planets. There's a diagram here, let me pull up... levitating eggs and the vortex. If you understand vortex physics, you can understand that it has pinch points inside the vortex inside a tornado. Inside these pinch points you can sort of like grab a planet and keep it there so essentially what we have is a perfect straight line of collinear configuration of planets that are forced to stay together and they're all pointing at the sun

32:45 Are you following me so far? Yes, definitely. Excellent! All right so here's how the configuration plays out first you have the Sun and then you had Jupiter closest to the Sun behind that you had Saturn And Saturn was the part that we could see. You look up in the sky, in the North Pole or any part of Earth and you would see Saturn fixed to the North Pole and behind it would be Jupiter but you couldn't see Jupiter Behind Jupiter you'd see the Sun and if you could see the light of the Sun that light would create a crescent So you basically have a star-and-crescent shape And you see this in Islam and Freemasonry, you see all over the place. That is an occult symbol that goes all the way back to the origin story of The Star on the Crescent So this configuration slowly rotated and the crescent slowly rotated and the planet Earth and Mars other parts other realms in this location this configuration experienced night and day but they did not experience seasons yet because there was no tilt yet because the configuration was still online so

33:50 configuration from Saturn. You look up you see Saturn but in front of it you see Venus and Venus is not a solid sphere, it's a spread out star shape six or eight or ten or more lines In front of Venus you see either Mercury or Mars are both And this red Mars appeared to be the apple of the eye of Venus. Altogether you got this configuration that looked like a circle with a star in it and then an eye in the very center, and we see this symbol throughout mythology so obviously it means something. So we're tracing back to the origin story

34:29 On Earth, if you looked up at the northern hemisphere you would see that right? But if you walk to the other side of Earth, the southern side, you would see something else entirely. You'd see the southern configuration which is called Pratt's column which Anthony Pratt discovered it in 2003 when he was looking at petroglyphs. He said this Pratt's column shape of three plasmoids must have appeared at either the north or south pole of the earth now disputes of course, all Saturnian cosmology does not buy any of that stuff. He says these plasmoids were aurora borealisis times a thousand and not in any kind of configuration plans but I believe that he's made mistake there that he is compromised by the establishment which doesn't allow him to see outside of that box and he is describing three intense plasmoid on the southern hemisphere There are other people who did this too For example, in Norse literature they described

35:28 the realm of Muspelheim. I know, I'm not getting that word right. Muspelheim is one of the realms in Norse mythology and he said this would be in Snorri's Edda. It states still there was before a world to the south which was called Muspelheim it is light and hot and so bright and dazzling that no stranger who is not native there can stand When I read that, I was blown away. I was like wow how could such a realm exist in the collinear configuration in the Eden times and perfect times? The answer to that question is the southern hemisphere wasn't so perfect it was far less buffered by gas giants Jupiter Saturn. It had smaller giants

36:13 Uranus, Neptune possibly Nibiru. These create the great stick man figure the first man the one that appears in all mythology and Incas and so forth And this blazing stick figure this three-pointed figure was so hot that if you were not somebody who could stand it, then you would not want to stay there. You'd go back to the northern hemisphere into Eden into the garden so what we have here is an explanation for skin color and for giants. So follow me here... Giants exist because in the origin times in the 930 year period of the collinear configuration the different realms experienced different amplitudes of energy

36:58 All this energy was safe and it passes through you. It didn't appear as lightning, it was passing through the planets in a safe way so if you stood in one location you'd receive this much energy another location you received more. If you went to the southern hemisphere you would received a great deal of energy any creature that lived in an area that receives great deals of energy became huge Creatures that lived in places with no energy were small. So you basically have the scaling of all creatures in this origin period and you have the creation of all giants on The southern hemisphere, the ones who could stand it, the ones whose skin became dark and the ones who would later evolve into much smaller people humans Who then married and stuff And now we have light-and-dark skinned people which literally came from the north and south hemispheres of the planet

37:48 Of course, this might sound extreme. It might be offensive." I don't even know if it's true but a lot of evidence seems to be pointing at that and I think it's rather benign origin story. I think it is quite a peaceful conclusion, if you ask me. This configuration period, this 930-year period—I could talk all day about it—there was so much literature to talk about the Norse for example in their realms. Midgar was where Most people lived and most humans would see this location in the North Pole, this giant tree that just it's an energy tree of energy flowing from the North Pole up into the other planets until like a bigger tree into essentially Saturn. Which some people said you know that is our creator and other people disagreed there's one thing I can talk about here And that's Atlantis and the Atlantis theory let me go on to that sure please but

38:43 So right here we're talking about all mythologies converging and if Atlantis existed, here's how it would have existed. There is very little literature for it, you know Plato and so forth and none of it really matters so much as that if we use our imagination we could sort of figure out these things. The literature I did find described three major kingdoms of Atlantis they were called Pisidia, Og, and Arion. Of course we've heard Arian before Pisidia would be the very center one and it was the most important one. It was a city built in the very center of the North Pole of the Earth, which point, which the energy from the earth is flowing straight up into the sky at that point. So if you build anything there, you have extremely high energetic buildings. You'll have everything magic, you name it." They did they built this Piscadia Emerald City as it's been described in all literature and of course in redacted literature we've seen emerald cities. Daoists describe this one specific location that has high energy and from what I understand these

39:45 crystals can be grown left-handed or right handed in the ground to become any size and carved into any shape. So you see how as long as the crystals are growing fast, they can build an emerald city out of it. Pretty cool! These guys invented all of the Origin technology all at once in this one location due to extremely high safe energies passing through it, the abundance of emeralds, things like that. Now let's talk about the Deep State Because the deep state is essentially this concept that has influenced earth affairs one way or another. Or maybe it hasn't, maybe I'm all wrong but if it has then we have to trace its origin story all the way back to this point where everything was benign and everything's fine and suddenly things weren't so here's what I believe happened

40:35 In Pisidia, they did have the advanced technology but didn't necessarily want to share the knowledge. So they essentially became a Wizard of Oz situation where they told people that there was this invisible or visible god that they needed to worship and ask for all the things that they wanted. People would come to Pisidia for knowledge, for technology, for healing you name it... It was the place to go and they considered themselves the tree of knowledge. Pisidia was the tree of knowledge so As it turns out, inevitably the need to suppress knowledge to keep it a secret would have created a deep state society in Pisidia that sort of was the origin of the class system that we know today. You have people at the top who have secret knowledge and people anywhere below the top who are slaves to those above them who know the truth

41:28 In Og, in the literature we're told that this location was completely dominated by Pisidia. So whatever this trick was to influence people to believe in these visible or invisible god heads actually worked on a small number of people. It didn't work on everyone and we have this conflicting Norse mythology viewpoint, the Aryan viewpoint which says There were no such creator gods and we didn't worship any creator gods. So right there in the origin, we have two different perspectives on is there a god or not? And you have people that are actually simulating gods in Pisidia using high technology to convince people that they're in charge and that their priests represent God's word. So this Atlantis situation I believe occurred entirely naturally it was just the people living there did not involve aliens or any kind of

42:19 It didn't need it. It happened on its own, so then the downfall of Atlantis must have also happened on its own after a 930 year period of the golden age. Atlantis was known to have collapsed into the earth into a deluge or many different ways of looking at it now there was no water deluge yet and earth didn't have that much water yet So Atlantis didn't sink into the ocean it sank a deluge, the first one. The great flood that occurred at the end of the golden age and this flood was a consequence of earth passing through one of the abyss layers of Saturn's brown dwarf system. Abyss means the abyss is referenced in Norse and Christian mythology

43:10 as this huge sea in the sky. Not a sea on the ground, but in the heavens... A layered sea that is horizontal with equatorial zones and covers the stars you can barely see the stars through it now this is actually water and in plasma form in hot form its plasma but when it's cold it's water And the rings of Saturn actually contain the exact same water and concentration of salt as do our oceans here on Earth. So various studies have traced the abyssal layers of Saturn to the creation of all of our oceans here on Earth. In fact, nobody knows where the salts from our earth's oceans did come from. They suggest it must've been some salt source but we've never found a salt source so that is not explained. We need to know where the salt came from

43:59 That was from the first great deluge, the one that sunk Atlantis. But what really sunk Atlantis? Here's what really sunk Atlantis... As you recall there is this configuration holding everything in place with a strong electric force and as soon as this configuration broke up Atlantis was no longer supported in its location. That location, the north section of Earth would become a hole it would fall into the earth and become the northern hole If you believe in Hollow Earth theory, then you're aware that there is a northern hole. Yes! And also, you must have heard by now that people believe Atlantis can be found in the ruins of the North Pole or the South Pole and it's all over the place.

44:40 Right and that's really interesting because there are some maps that show like a landmass at the top and rivers kind of converging in across formation. And they all have names, the rivers and the landmasses have names on this map. Sure people can make any map they want you could make a detailed map of Middle Earth then 1000 years later people would think It was real potentially so i know that's in the mix but at the same time what you're saying it's kind of interesting to think that maybe this is a map before the land sunk and now there's all their straight split into four. And if you look close enough there's weird stone right in the center we rock have you noticed that,

45:22 No, not at the top of my head. Some of those four section maps that you referenced there's a stone in the center and this stone according to literature is the very top of the Atlantis city it fell into the earth but got stuck and the very top of it is still there they said this stone is sticking out of the vortex of the North Pole in its early formations It has magnetic properties Wow so it's just like wow that's the very top of their huge pyramid thing They built there in Pisidia essentially Yes and there is mythology about a big magnetic mountain at the top of the planet. It just keeps pointing to the same thing. Well, once you look into Saturnian cosmology maybe have a way of explaining how this can happen but without that I've seen the theories. A lot of people say Atlantis was aliens came to visit and they had their own artificial moon up there in the sky that gave them energy. Well, a second artificial moon sounds like what I'm talking about, the collinear configuration providing energy. These stories are very similar so we're close to truth I believe

46:23 I love it, man. It's fun regardless and I wanted to ask you a little bit about pyramids because this is where it gets pretty epic. Let me read from your website again, you say quantum entanglement during the Golden Age there was an overabundance of high amplitude low voltage energy flowing through each planet in the configuration which Norse refers to as the Bifrost As the planets in this configuration did not spin each north and south pole acted as a strong quantum entanglement between planets Building pyramidal structures upon these locations enabled humans to travel instantaneously through the Bifrost. This may sound outlandish, however the Egyptians had a symbol for the Boat of Ra which transported Ra between each planet and it looks like a modern day depiction of a wormhole

47:15 Talk to us a little bit more about pyramids because this is a pretty out there idea, but it's crucial to your reconstruction. Obviously we have pyramids all over the earth and there are some images that look very much like pyramids on Mars so how could this be? Right absolutely! This is a weird factoid that is in literature and we're talking about instantaneous teleportation It's like, how did they do that? Well here is the thing. No one invented instantaneous teleportation. They discovered it! It was abundant back there and possible on its own. So let us talk about what it is. Quantum entanglement is the idea of quantum physics which contrasts with Einsteinian relativity and says that you cannot put energy into the earth or destroy

48:01 If you push on one side of an electromagnetic field, of any nature... You will be pushing on the other side at the same time in a quantum fashion. This has also been referred to in the Schrodinger's paradox, where people that think that particle physics is the explanation to physics cannot explain wave-like behavior in particle physics. So that's the backdrop for quantum entanglement. Now I believe with just a little leaf of faith here that these guys weren't lying, they really did stumble upon technology that you don't build it, you just walk over into it You create a bunch of circles of stones in the location. Those stones will make it safer, you stand into the center of those stones and under certain circumstances... ...you will teleport to another circle on the other end over there like on Mars or something And then come back

48:52 Is this possible? Is it not?" Well, there's a lot of other reasons to believe in quantum teleportation that I don't really need to get into now. But I will say that yes, this is the basis for my entire pyramidal empire theory. The pyramidal empire is the only way to maintain an empire due to limitations of our cosmos. We have things we can do and things we can't do, and it turns out that the craziest things that we can do might also be the most powerful tools to maintaining an empire. So that's my theory as to why I would call it a pyramidal empire. Now let's get into the pyramids! The pyramids are this huge unsolved question today...

49:31 I just see article after article pointing out another perspective of the whole thing, looking at it differently. For example we need to stop looking at Egypt as a location of pyramids since it's right next to Iraq and Iran and other locations that have way bigger pyramids that are far more spectacular. They're just being covered up for some reason in fact there are pyramids all over the equatorial zone of the earth So, right there we have a clue. We have all these pyramids built all over the equator of the Earth in the tropical regions. Maybe they weren't tropical when they were built? That's a clue because obviously it is hard to build pyramids in a desert so you can just assume that conditions might've been better back when they were being built. One other trick about the pyramids... Now I've only confirmed this on one article but it seems that all the biggest pyramids on Earth were built less than 200 years ago

50:24 I know that a huge string of pyramids were built in very short time, especially the ones in Egypt. Were built them 200 years ago. So the question to ask here is why would anyone build pyramids and why would they build them all at once? And then why did they stop building it? What was the nature of this quick pyramid dealio who even had the means to do that? They must have convinced a lot of people to do that So again, we can just kind of drop everything we know about empires and just imagine humans stumbling on this technology again and deciding what to do with it. You got those people convincing everyone that they need to build these pyramids because with that technology

51:03 we were finding these ley lines across the earth. These ley lines were the same energy that we saw in Atlantis, so essentially I'm thinking that it was Atlantis people who convinced everyone to build the pyramids. Don't know for sure but they would have suggested if we build the same pyramids in the same way on those ley lines, we can do the same things. We can communicate between them and feel healthier because you stand inside of that energy flow and live forever. You could even teleport! You could do all these crazy things from the golden age Were they able to? Maybe, maybe not. Here's why it doesn't matter after that 200 year period nobody was building any pyramids anymore so we can assume that whoever built them got what they wanted out of them the ability to communicate across the planet in real time due to the well explain on really quickly

51:53 The pyramids would be harnessing energy that's periodically crossing the earth. And as that energy creates quantum entanglements between locations, it may not be enough to teleport but certainly is enough to send messages you create Chambers within the pyramids, you put either stone gem or gold metal idols rocks godheads things like that in the center of the chamber. The energy will coalesce to that point in the center of the chamber if you knock it with a hammer if you speak to it to the idol then the idol on the other pyramid may hear it and this is a way to simulate gods this is something that we see in Egyptian literature and also in the Hebrew Exodus story

52:36 We see people making idols and trying to talk to them and stuff. We just don't know why they're doing this, you know? So I'm offering a possibility here it's because these pyramids actually had a function to them And this function did not free humanity or help anyone in any way They only allowed this Atlantean deep state To reassert control over everyone Here on Mars Anywhere that you can go Why do I think Mars? Well, because people find pyramids on Mars. So we have to assume that maybe that is a shared story here... That these pyramids connect to each other on Earth and the ones in other planets in the configuration.

53:13 Yes, I love it. And this is obviously very epic and when you dive into your website it's also very dense you go through a ton of biblical stories and recontextualize them in this paradigm. And there's obviously way more than we can talk about today but because you've mentioned the elite and the deep state and Mars a few times in the first hour I really wanted to try to throw that log on the fire as well The ruling elite you go much deeper than the rocket bellers and the Rothschilds then you say that they are martian even maybe to this day controlling us from mars fold that in for us.

53:55 So, as you see that we have a shared origin story here that includes Mars. Mars wasn't a distant planet this whole time it was right there in the colonial configuration with people transporting in between so after the configuration broke up and the planets started to find their long-term orbits they were cut off from each other and it wasn't until modern times that the people who may have been left on mars were able to reassert control of earth This is my more modern part of the history reconstruction timeline where I describe that something really fishy happened with the Vatican in the 12th century, where they sort of create a bunch of fake history prior to that and reset a bunch of dates.

54:35 that were close together and stretched them out into long periods. They did all kinds of weird things back then, so who was behind that? Well there might have been somebody on Mars who was slowly trying to create a religion on Earth and if I'm right about that then i think I have the motivation for the entire Cathar suppression by the Catholic Church which is sort of a linchpin in history which leads to all of the events of modern day one after the other it's all about this cathars suppression trying to suppress agnostics from challenging the narrative of the central church authority. And in that conflict, they created Judaism, Islam, modern Christianity it was all right there so sure we could have done that on our own but they also could have been influenced from some worlds So that's where my Mars theory basically comes from

55:26 I like it. And you have this section about how the Martians control us, since the configuration of the planets are now screwed up and the pyramids don't work anymore But you write, travel to Earth despite what you've seen on Star Trek and Star Wars space travel via spaceship is impossible for living beings Earth's electromagnetic field flows through our bodies and keeps us alive. If we were to leave it or get anywhere near the Van Allen belts, we would die. Exposing yourself or your spaceship to the Suns EM field would be certain death regardless of size Martians can only safely get to Earth via natural or man-made quantum gates like CERN which only operate when the planets are in opposition every 26 months

56:12 No living creature could survive space travel in a small cylinder, nor can it survive a comet-like reentry burn. Nor can it survive for days inside scalding metal but a remote controlled machine can when Martians lose control over the gates, they lose control over Earth and they must use other means to reassert control remotely. Martians cannot travel between planets on cylinders but they can send robots through space and remote-control robots on Earth Okay, well there's a lot to unpack there. Yes there is! And... There is a section of your site about these sort of tripod robots we saw in War Of The Worlds and you referred to HG Wells as a plagiarist who fictionalized a real event that took place in London in the 17th century and We are off to the races now This is a very unique take on

57:08 And i know it's probably a lot to summarize there but can you fold some of this in and elaborate on how this story plays out. You might want to try and use your imagination if you're a Martian, or human on Mars that really needs to try and assert control over Earth for whatever reason. There's only very few ways you can do it so let me back up to what I said earlier yes i'm claiming that space travel as we know is impossible the way depicted in Star Wars and Star Trek just hop into ship and go there isn't much evidence here one way or the other, since we don't go to space. We can't see for ourselves. We're trusting NASA and other people like Martin with all these facts but we do have some clues and if you watch the documentary A Funny Thing Happened on The Way To The Moon which is a popular documentary that points out that the Apollo missions have issues with them. You'll notice that it spends a lot of time on this one moment when the astronauts were allegedly beyond the Van Allen belts trying to take a far distance shot of Earth at the halfway point to the moon now this

58:08 This doesn't sound very important. It sounds like a boring part of their mission, but actually we find out in the documentary that this part is absolutely staged! That's one of the biggest pieces evidence is that they have that one scene staged so the only question left is why would anyone stage being outside of the Van Allen belts? Part of the reason is because they want us to believe that the moon is way far out there in this huge object when it's actually within our Earth's atmosphere, which something I claim. Regardless for how big the moon is or anything like that, The real objective of the Apollo mission staged event there was to show humans outside the Van Allen belt for the only time you're ever going to see them so

58:46 If you add that with stage, it makes it very clear that there's something there and if you look at Russian literature for early launches in the USSR, you'll actually find some evidence that in the very first flights this one woman astronaut, the first woman astronaut got near the Van Allen belts and almost died. And she was telling them to go back down and then the ship didn't went back up instead and she almost died so for whatever reason she almost died I hitched my theory that you cannot leave these van allen belts they actually keep us alive but even if they didn't you have this ship right? You've got a spaceship keeps you alive...you would have to contend with the solar electromagnetic field of our sun. It would form around your ship, it would provide your ship with immense energy no longer buffered by earth if you could build a ship that can deal with that energy then yes maybe good space travel now we're talking about an extremely hostile environment for humans one that actually isn't so bad for machines machines can

59:41 get to 700 degrees and make it through these conditions. They can land on Earth, they can get up and they walk around and they can change things but if they were to be seen then the jig is up right? So War of The Worlds essentially if you look at it as a cover-up instead of anything else you'll start to see that the clues point out everything that can't possibly be true You got these creatures inside the pods who survived the trip somehow And they're sitting in this pit defenseless and they managed to build the entire tripods themselves while they're there And then they walk around these tripods and by the time they get things going, they get sick and die. Boy these are the stupidest brain creatures we've ever seen! So we sort of have to start to rule out what doesn't make any sense about some of these so-called science fiction stories and see if maybe there are in fact redactions that were part of World War I & II erasing book burning all those old books and rewriting them into something modern you know something that basically is not true

1:00:39 Right you kind of say that world war one and two more so world war one was manipulated by the martians or kicked off by the martians in the end the chaos of the war, so much other stuff is being done it's like the kansas city shuffle. And that movie lucky number seven its like don't look at what my left hands doing over here focus on the right hand But right before that in the 19th century, you have all this literature about people on Mars. Humans visiting they visit here sometimes or hostile. It was all spelled out. You have people that mapped the water on Mars as it changed in the seasons. They thought they saw canals. This literature has never been accounted for yet. A lot of people say oh, the people who saw canals on Mars must have been

1:01:29 using blurry lenses. You look at these stories closely and you look at what detail they've described cities and life on Mars, it could not have possibly been a mistake these guys were just studying life on Mars so after World War I & II by the time of dust settled these stories were gone and redacted but still today no one can account for those images...these great details about these canals Not to get into much of the history there, but I actually do have a theory as to why they did see all those canals back in 19th century and why you don't see them today. And so we kind of hitch my theory on that as well.

1:02:05 Yes, you say they removed the water and everything kind of went underground. How does that play out? Right so unfortunately let me just get right to the point The people who are behind this are not the average people on Mars The vast majority humans are normal just like you and me And the controlling faction Are a type of human Who has gone through every stage of technology Stay as long as they can Alive long as I can They sort became vampires They could not create their own blood anymore And then they go into the next phase, which is they go into like a little bottle and then put their bottle into this machine. Then that machine becomes their body. There's all this literature that these types of beings can exist for about 100 years or so at which point they get sick of that lifestyle and they want to go into the fourth state of existence, which is called archons. Archon online have many different descriptions no one knows what they are who they are but in my opinion

1:02:59 Sarcons are a surgical process of putting one life form into another. So anyway, you got these humans ex-humans on Mars who've been around for a long time and have sort of family banker control structure over their entire planet it would be well within their power to construct all the cities for everyone and then just say deconstruct them, we're in charge now. And unfortunately I believe that's exactly what happened they duped everyone on Mars into thinking that the 20th century is going to be peaceful and we're building cities there was gonna be happy and then there was this devious plan to start war here on Earth But while the dust was settling, they realized here on Earth that people had already observed life on Mars. So unfortunately I don't see any other way but those cities on the surface of Mars would have had to been dismantled to keep this World War II story of how it actually went down going forever. As soon as we see Martians then our modern history unravels." Hmm...I like it! And

1:04:00 As we're kind of trying to pull this all together, I know it is so much that we fit into two hours. But where did our sun come from? And is it possible that it goes negative? The suns appear to be fixtures in our cosmology. There is no universe. There's no galaxies. We're just one big galaxy the Hertzsprung-Russell diagram has led to a lot of lies like the idea of many galaxies expanding with billions of light years in between them and stuff like that. There is no such space in this universe, we're actually in a very structured ordered universe, a cosmology and everywhere you go you'll find structure our sun is a structural fixture point it's being pushed against other points and these points in the sky are fixed everyone agrees that the stars are fixed and that they have not changed in history

1:04:51 Some articles will dispute this and say of course the stars change, but the truth is that the stars should have changed a lot more by now had they been floating around in a chaotic Newtonian universe. And they don't! They're all fixed in place so structured universe ordered. Well I guess my thought is if this once happened before where our Sun went Negative in its charge couldn't that happen again or i guess what triggered so saturn ejected the earth because it was growing and getting too big and ended up on the outside. And then when it ejects enough stuff its charge goes with it and it goes the body goes negative but could,

1:05:34 Could our son couldn't go negative in a similar way or could i sign every jack to planet that we can see and be like hey something's wrong like i want the spell to be broken if this is correct paradigm and im looking for that thing, that would do it or i'm looking for change that would rival the change we've been through i guess there isn't one. Well, it'll be the next creation of planets. So when will that happen? I think these plants are going to have to die off go to the outer orbit and make room for something like this to happen again at which point you're going to have some kind of insertion scenario from an external source connecting to our sun so our sun can never change charge it's the biggest thing around in this area everything else is smaller than it so that when Saturn shows up it will transform Saturn has a gas layered giant strips layer off of

1:06:25 But what would Mars do in the same situation? In antiquity, we found out that Mars has erupted its entire surface at points. That entire surface collided with Earth, we have all this iron ore all over planet Earth, Mars meteorites jumpstarted the Iron Age and so forth... So at some point in history an entire shell of hollow Mars exploded! And came apart. Why would the outer shell of Mars explode and the inner shell stay the same? It's because everything has a layered order to it, and the outer layer is only one that's in play, and when the Sun's positive environment reaches a positive our layer that positive hour layer must strip out and The next one below it is the negative layer. So that one's stable now You got the inner layer of Saturn Negative cathode connected to those Sun positive Sun and everything is now stable again like a snake shedding its skin Sort of oh, yeah totally very natural so could the earth shed its outer layer? Oh

1:07:26 Earth is different from Mars and Venus. Venus doesn't have a rocky core or anything like that, they say it does but it doesn't. In antiquity took many shapes, appeared as the dragon, appeared as the Ouroboros that bit its own tail and wrapped itself around the Earth. So you can see Venus is something else, it's a huge gaseous soupy kind of thing that's very hot and very charged. And Mars is a rocky kind of cold planet. It can't go much closer to the sun because it can't take any much more charges and have much more water. So Earth right in between got a lot of water, got a lot mass. You don't have anything that's causing our shape to change we're very stable plant as supports life

1:08:05 You pretty much have examples of the other kinds of planets on either side. Well, you definitely have thought about this a lot! Yeah... Before we end what's the next chapter of our story? I guess i should ask it that way That's a good question. I never got to go into World War II which is actually where I completely started all this but I do want to leave with a thought that here are some questions we now need to ask Let's just assume technology was available 300 years before they say it was. What does that say about World War II? The one where basically planes and napalm won the day, changed the face of the earth. My question is, was somebody cheating? Was that even a real war? Do we even know if those planes had pilots in them? Those are the kinds of questions that now need to be asked about the 20th century."

1:09:00 Yes. Wow, well man this has definitely been one hell of a ride really fun and interesting your site clearly has way more material than we could cover so I would want to remind people to dig into it for themselves and let them know anything you want to about the context of the website or anything you might be working on next yeah please guys tell me where i'm wrong I need to know where i'm wrong most important thing to find out That's so funny because this is such a radically new paradigm. But as Terrence McKenna said, if this is true it should be able to take the pressure. Yeah

1:09:39 Yeah, if there's flaws in it and I need to know the flaws so that I can keep looking or say wow you know I really was on the wrong path. Maybe not all of it maybe just some of it yeah I'm wanting to learn only way I learned is to make mistakes right on why are you wrong? Yes well thank you for your time I appreciate you walking through this seriously dense and epic research It's obviously a very big story that takes a lot of time to tell but I always appreciate an epic and unique perspective, and you certainly offered us that. Keep it up and take care out there man! I really appreciate the opportunity thanks a bunch for this. You got it. Rock me like a hurricane Iriside Chatters how about that? I thought Ari did a great job forgiving his first interview right not an easy thing to do

1:10:25 It's complicated material. I know it's easy to get tripped up or not know where to start with a subject that so huge, but i liked it because we got to talk about the electric universe model again which i'm such a big fan of but once you've talked to the two main guys and did pretty full robust episodes about it i don't know where to go with it maybe people out there know some more electric universe Gurus that would wanna come on the show maybe people have a slightly different angle on it that i'm not aware of try to make episodes that cover something like the electric universe pretty complete and pretty timeless, add even though people don't always come through your old archives for fresh material.

1:11:14 I never want us to just be repeating ourselves so it is great that Ari, is using a theory that I find really intriguing as a basis for crafting this narrative that he finds to be more likely and certainly unique. And the fact that it IS wild as it is means its right for us And i know so much of our modern technology makes it a bit harder to entertain that we are as ignorant of our positions in this reality as cattle and slaughterhouse because we got satellites real time global communication, add huge military monitoring of so much the planet there is something curious about the apocalyptic material that has been classified and taken pretty seriously by agencies like the CIA.

1:12:03 It seems pretty obvious that they have explored these sorts of avenues, and who knows exactly what sort of reconstructions they've actually entertained or what conclusions they've come to. It would be interesting to know how different their model really is! But it's also that perception that there are no more great secrets that contributes to perpetuating the status quo and that whole idea hiding something in plain sight I like that you really have to unravel an entire paradigm to understand how Ari comes to these conclusions. Martian overlords sounds even more extreme if you don't wrap your head around this new school of thought on the formation of planets, and the mechanisms that cause their movements in their relationship to the sun into each other... To just say martian overlords is not enough! You really gotta unpack all these layers

1:12:58 And just to say that the pyramids could have been planetary portals or stargates, it doesn't sound as convincing as it does when you consider this Electric Universe model and the energy transfer between planets. And then maybe we had some sort of cosmic tunnels from one to another? Could it be that humans kept building pyramids in different locations trying to re-complete the circuit as it continued to come undone I've always liked the idea that the pyramids were chambers that facilitated consciousness travel like astral projection and really amplified those sorts of effects while the body was still in a little box floating on the water or whatever it is kind of like a super enhanced float tank maybe because physical travel is a little tougher for me to really entertain.

1:13:57 What do I know? It works for me because this isn't just some broad idea. Ari has a lot of the details worked out and it does relate to fields of study that he's had in the past, and i love the boldness of his claim! Yeah so guys tell me where i'm wrong! It's just funny to me...I'm sure some people will tell him where he's wrong but i would love to see that dialogue take place I would love to see him respond to any logical fallacies that you think you see because, to me this is ironclad. But his technical and historical knowledge it is impressive and does add a layer to the whole well what if aspect of all this. So consider this episode your mental exercise for the week hopefully you all enjoyed a break from the heaviness of our times in the dominance of politics almost any discourse

1:14:50 I consider it a breath of fresh air and you guys know that i like the idea that truth could be seated in hidden infection and connected fictional authors are propelled to the tops their fields, and there work has a resonance because its actually hidden true this matrix of lies and distractions keeping us caged into a world view that's so small and so. Land in comparison to the real possibilities It's fun to have a guest that starts with dismantling commonly accepted ideas that we've been fed and says, well actually these things don't hold any water or they're deeply flawed. And so we need to throw them out and start from scratch! So we're making conspiracy fun again tying in some of the most interesting threads in the space hollow planets, the pyramids, the electric universe, Anatoly Fomenko... what's not to like?

1:15:44 Call me the Baskin-Robbins of conspiracy podcasting, because I got a flavor for everybody. And for those who might be inclined to say, well you're only doing something outrageous like this because you're afraid of the big ban so you're avoiding the hot topics... wait until you hear the next show before you go too far down that train of thought, because it's certainly a YouTube ban invoker for sure! And who cares? Because we got THC+, and that's where the real magic happens. If you liked this episode, you should want to hear it in its entirety! Sign up for PLUS and support a show that you want to remain around... ...and actually get something for it. In this PLUS Show, we talked about the Exodus event, The Mysterious Events of 1666, The Tripods, Revelations, Fomenko—no shortage of good stuff folded in.

1:16:35 Sign up at thehiresidechats.com because I think it's time we discard this idea that things we value are just going to be supported by other people or ads, because they aren't but you know this and you also know about Plus by now so my life is in your hands dude And I don't really have a lot to add. I just had a good time and hope you did too, don't forget about the mysteries of reality just because they don't make it on the nightly news! Keep your heads up and your pimp hands strong. I wish ya'll all the best and see ya next time. Big thanks again to Ari digging into his work at ParadigmThreat.net, a site that even in itself triggers that sort-of early 2000s internet nostalgia that I miss so much

1:17:20 But either way, I declare this meeting of the Midnight Society closed. Your move tripod pilots pyramid portal placers and Martian overlords! You're fuckin' moved. Get through the gate downtown walking fast security pass and i'm homebound yeah well that was the plan but i got flagged gagged in my hands now i'm screwed i'm so screwed but i still want

1:18:04 If I could stall, get past these guys Those documents would expose the lie Cause i know they've got a thousand files if I could just break tonight. Weapon disease so many coups Bluebeam too and more conspiracies I was close to the prize, but now these guys are wiping clean my precious memo Now i'm screwed. I'm so screwed But I still want If I could stall Get past these guys Those documents would expose the lies

1:19:14 Cause I know they've got a thousand files If i could just break tonight And I, I Just wanted to know I Just wanted to see I Don't wanna let this go I don't

1:19:56 Get through the gate downtown, walking fast Security passed and I'm homebound Yeah well that was the plan but i got flagged Gagged in my hands, ba-a-ad Now im screwed Im so screwed But I still want If I could stall get past these guys Those documents would expose the lies

1:20:40 Cause I know they've got thousand files If i could just, if I could just break through tonight