Anthony Patch | CERN: The Portal To Saturn, Electric Universe Theory, & Other Occult Science

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01:39 Holy hell, higher side chatters. electromagnetic field of science that has been quarantined away from anyone with a mainstream scientific education, yet carefully passed down through the ages of secret societies and shadowy priesthoods. And then of course Saturn and it's possible connections to all these things. I mean, what more could you want in a THC? I definitely have a lot of respect for today's guest Anthony Patch. He has done a hell of a lot of research and was so kind to send me all his books and several other pieces of material to go over made my job easier and I tried to hold my own but good God is this a lot over my stupid stoner head! Although I love a guest that has great facts and is very knowledgeable about something but will also dive deep into the world of speculation

02:40 into what some of this stuff might mean in areas where we might never get the confirmation we would want to have. And we definitely hit that sweet spot today, so why make you wait any longer? CERN, Saturn, Strangelets, plane crashes Tesla, the electric universe and more with your friend and mine Anthony Patch. ♪ I put a spell on you because you're my high side spell ♪

03:17 Alright people, today we're going to hone in on the crossroads between modern science and occult magic because whether we're looking at Nazis, CERN or NASA or any of the other examples, the coded messages and secret symbols seem to suggest this connection is deeper than they'd like us to know. And today we are going to figure out why! To do that we have a great researcher and author who has been laying out these conspiratorial breadcrumbs in his novels Covert, Catastrophe and 2048 diamonds in the rough like a modern-day George Orwell, and he's been studying this area more than anyone I know. And it's an honor and pleasure Anthony Patch welcome to THC!

03:56 Well, thank you very much Greg. I really appreciate the invitation to be with you today Yeah this is really going to be awesome! I'm pumped for this one because you've been connecting some of my favorite conspiracy themes in a way that i think makes a lot of sense most which is centered around CERN which is probably the best place to start I'm sure most people listening have a layman's understanding of CERN and the Large Hadron Collider but give us some of the introductory information that you think it's important for people to know going into this Yeah, very quickly. I think people need to understand that this is the largest most expensive machine that has ever been created by man according to our present recorded history now there may have been something you know back in what is often referred to as the golden age that was different but essentially it lies 300 feet under the ground and Switzerland and This is a device that was

04:49 Actually, they broke ground in 1954 and so it's been underway for about 60 years. 1998 is when they really started the public experiments that people have been following and up until this point they really haven't accomplished a whole lot in my opinion for all that money. So there's your start! Right, and it's pretty interesting. I mean there are some strange things about it like you said It is the most powerful largest machine that we know of thats ever been built. That is something to take note of Apparently inside the tunnel where they're doing this particle acceleration and collision Its actually colder than outer space in there! And thats pretty crazy

05:35 Yeah, it is. Specifically within what they call the main ring. The main ring is the particle accelerator that gets all of them notoriety in the press and its 27 kilometers in diameter and again 300 feet below the surface of the earth and expands across two borders Switzerland and France and the area that is the coldest is within the ring itself. Picture it as a hollow tube, they refer to it at CERN as the pipe and within that area they have magnets that are superconducting and in order for them to be superconducting they need to be cold, cryogenically cold with helium

06:17 down to almost absolute zero, and in fact it is colder than outer space within the tubes of the main ring itself. In the tunnels... The tunnels are cold, of course by You know, merely their association with the pipe. But it's the pipe itself—the tube—the main ring that is cryogenically cold. And another big part of this puzzle to kind of understand what they're trying to do or what they talk about doing which I guess are kinda two different things is understanding the Higgs field Can you kind of explain to us what the Higgs field is and how they're messing with it?

06:53 Yeah, the Higgs field and again I'll present everything in a paraphrased form and i'm really trying to make it as simple and clear-cut for everyone because this is pretty much arcane theoretical physics. And the Higgs field is a theoretical model of what typically referred to as dark matter and dark energy. So, if you picture everything in the universe that we can see and touch and measure as being matter, that's about 4% of the known universe! The remainder is comprised of what they theoretically called black... dark energy and dark matter. The Higgs field if we go along the lines of that theory

07:37 is really much like a matrix. And again, we hear that name used a lot because of the movie etc., but it is really a fabric or weaving or matrix of what are known as weakly interacting massive particles or WIMPs and these are weakly interacting at the nuclear level, at the quantum level their interaction as far as nuclear force, they're bonding forces Is very weak and therefore the Higgs field is again theoretically capable of being open or torn apart much like a fabric is torn or the veil was parted. Do these wimps have any connection to the strange let's we hear about,

08:22 They do in the sense that they're quantum particles. Again, quantum particles are smaller than atoms. They are actually the building blocks that make up an atom and when you're talking about colliding particles and shattering them and particle spinning off, we're talking about quantum particles that are spinning off from the larger atoms or protons specifically that are being collided And when we talk about Strangelets, we talk about quantum particles and the Hadron collider itself. We're talking about bosons, Higgs boson. The boson falls into a family or category of bosons one which is the Higgs boson and therefore the Higgs field. And then Strangelets are in there with it. Strangelets are a combination of two quantum particles. One is a quart

09:16 and one is a gluon, and these bind together to form what are known as strangelets. And I'll try to keep my answers short so when I stop that's just an indication to you that i'm not going to run off at the mouth here Right on and these stranglets are concerning though to a lot of people especially in the conspiracy circles They have some qualities that seem like they could be pretty epic and pretty dangerous to be messing with right? They are when we talk about quantum particles who again, We are speaking of theoretical behaviors and theoretical possibilities

09:53 So, what I'm quoting to you comes from the scientific journals. Right! I take all of my information from their sources and again their source you have to define as being theoretical in most cases. So, the characteristics of Strangelets number one it is considered to be the most powerful explosive force in the known universe. And I'll explain that in just a moment. The other characteristic is that it, I call them the cousin of the black holes or the cousin to black holes because they exhibit much the same types of characteristics as black holes. Most people when they think about black hole, they think of its sucking-in all matter including light. The quark gluon condensate or strangelet also attracts matter does not attract light

10:44 but it does attract matter, other atoms to it. A strangelet also has the third characteristic akin to a black hole in that is so heavy and so dense that it will penetrate out of the Alice detector at the Large Hadron Collider where they're produced through the floor through the Earth and come to rest at the center of the earth. And there they can begin to attract other matter, other atoms to themselves So those are the three quick overview characteristics. So yeah, I mean this is definitely something to pay attention to theoretical as it might be these experiments the things we're talking about you really only have to mess up once and The whole earth could collapse on itself in a worst-case scenario The universe could unfold a Big Bang could be created You know in Switzerland which is probably not the best place for a big bang to occur

11:40 Yeah, I mean this is some serious crazy power we're talking about. Yes indeed, and oftentimes people get hung up on hearing about things like well when the collisions occur there are tera electron volts 13 TeV being produced. And that we have these huge magnetic forces that are involved in it... We can get into discussing all of those to define them but this machine is extremely powerful and I don't really want people to get dissuaded or led off on another path of listening to the scientists who are saying things like, oh we've got it all under control. And yet at the same time out the other side of their mouth admit that there are two things that they're trying to achieve. One create microscopic black holes and number 2 interdimensional portals and that's all out in a public venue

12:37 Yeah, the interdimensional portal piece is such a fascinating piece. But before we dive too much into that I wanted to ask you about the idea that this equipment might have electromagnetic or gravitic effects on the nearby environment or the earth in that area This is something I've heard you talk about a little bit recently it ties into potentially current events Is this something that should be a concern? Well, I think it should be. When we talk about CERN and I like to talk about the fact that things are occurring below at the quantum level at the microscopic level if you will and also below the earth but there are things that are occurring above ground and outside the earth itself

13:25 So, specific to the magnets. The magnets do have a gravimetric effect upon the Earth itself. We'll just talk about the mantle and the Earth's crust but it also has a direct effect upon our magnetosphere or as I often like to call it our shields that protect us from gamma rays and X-rays coming in from the cosmos So, there is a distortion that is readily visible on the satellites that monitor and the computer modeling that monitor our magnetosphere and our magnetopause. And those shields are being affected they're being changed to shape them morphology of those shields are being changed every time we see the powering up with superconducting

14:09 cryogenically cold magnets residing 300 feet below the earth. So yeah, it seems like CERN could definitely and what they're doing there could definitely be having an effect on the earth do you think it has any connection to the recent Germanwings crash perhaps? I've heard you talk about this a little bit Yeah, I've really couched my statements regarding that because it moves into the realm of legal issues as to what I say And I don't want to delve into that, but I do think that there's a theory. There is a theory that gravimetric waves could have an effect upon the avionics and control systems and instruments of aircrafts. But the reason why I don't think this is the case with the German wings Airbus 320 that went down was because it was the only aircraft that went down

14:59 There were many other aircraft, including other Airbus 320s that were in the area and none of them were affected by a widespread gravimetric wave that passed through the Alps. And therefore I think there is an effect upon Earth that is being spawned by the magnet set CERN but I don't believe it's connected to this aircraft going down Yeah, a lot of researchers are looking at this aircraft and they seem to think that the wreckage is more consistent with something that is scattered about came apart in the air and littered the area rather than wreckage from an impact. I think it's fascinating! I guess I've heard you mention that one possibility is something that other researchers talk about as directed energy weapons? Right now again, I'm speaking hypothetically. I'm not accusing anyone

15:53 and certainly not accusing anyone with a large Hadron Collider. There is the theory that a directed energy weapon in the form of a more specifically defined kinetic energy weapon may have been used to disintegrate this aircraft because the wreckage is in such small particles, and the bodies have been so basically pulverized beyond what you normally see in an aircraft impact with the Earth that it appears to me that there was an outside force that needs to be used. People talk about directed energy weapons and really what oftentimes they're talking about or referring to are lasers, what I'm referring to are actual accelerated particles

16:39 perhaps protons, perhaps other subatomic particles that are accelerated in a particle accelerator and then used to direct those particles towards the target in which the impact is destroyed. The target is destroyed simply based upon the mass and speed of the particles themselves without any explosive being used. And this is common! This is out there... This is not science fiction. Yeah, and I guess one thing that backs this up is there was a witness who said they heard explosions that took like eight seconds apiece which might back up the idea that it was some exotic weapon like this.

17:22 Yeah, and I cited that there was a gentleman in one of the villages nearby the impact area who heard two distinct eight-second long explosions before the aircraft went down. So that's where it really started me towards the direction of thinking of directed energy weapons but again i have no way of proving that and I'm certainly not accusing anyone or any agency using one of those It just from a physics standpoint appears that's what caused the destruction of the aircraft. Yeah, and I don't want to spend too much time on this and it is of course speculation but have you gone down the rabbit hole enough to come up with potential motivation for taking out this particular aircraft? Was there anyone on board that's of note? Well there was

18:09 I don't have my notes in front of me. Yvonne, I forget her last name maybe you can help. Yvonne Selke. Selke thank you she was on board and she was working for a defense contractor for i think it was 23 years and they were essentially a mapping agency that was mapping out gravimetric waves, which we just spoke of as well as they do remote earth sensing visually and electronically for in support of our troops. And she was a contractor with Bose Allen Hamilton, the long time defense contractor again I have nothing against them or against her but if she was on board en route to Dusseldorf

18:51 And in the day and age of whistleblowers, we begin to start thinking in the conspiratorial lines that someone of note on board an aircraft that is taken out or goes down accidentally raises our suspicions. Absolutely, I'm right there with you. The real data is of course going to be covered up and it's gonna be hard ever really get the facts but it's not inconsistent with a lot other situations similar this and also one last bullet point on that as I believe there was a guy who stepped down who worked for that same agency just a week before the plane crash mean could be coincidence but it also might be something else too to fuel the fire

19:35 It could be, and again I don't hold anything against or say anything negative against this gentleman. I forget his name because they don't have my notes but he was actually the Undersecretary for Defense, I think was his position. A week prior he resigned. He was essentially in a position of oversight of most of our intelligence agencies including the agency that Yvonne Selke was working with...was contracted to work with So yeah, there's a timing of coincidence as to his resignation and her death. I don't know that the two are related. I don't know that she was necessarily carrying any information negative to him or the agencies but

20:20 Again, it's just coincidental but there are no coincidences in life as we all have learned and experienced. Yeah well said and of course we'll probably never know for sure but I think you can make a strong case in fact a lot of alternative news sites have been logging a whole bunch of strange deaths We had one string that was a bunch of high-level bankers But also a long series of sudden deaths and suicides from top level scientists And when you consider what's what's happening on the cutting edge of science. In a lot of ways, this is the apex of the shadowy elites agenda it doesn't surprise me that some people would start getting knocked off

20:55 Well, it does concern me too and I do pay attention to those reports even though my head is buried in physics. I do try to pay attention to the rest of the world and world events that are going on. And it does concern me when we see a pattern of even astrophysicists and astronomers going back through the whole discussion of Planet X and Nibiru and the approach and timing of it and the observations And people that are trying to report their observations are being taken out. That's just disastrous. Yeah, yeah it definitely is!

21:34 Another big thing I wanted to talk to you about, it's really exciting to me is this connection between CERN and Saturn. It's fascinating to me and it ties in the Electric Universe model and the Thunderbolts project which is really out there but I just love it! And it might be new a lot of people so can you give us a little bit of background there as to what this model is? It truly is out there. I mean, even when I reached this conclusion from a physics standpoint, I thought it was losing my mind. I really did. I mean, I thought okay you've really gone over the edge on this one. Here's the sequence of events. I was looking at the physics with CERN and I was looking at a number of things in the cosmos that were going on

22:21 And I was looking at the ancient Sumerian writings, Babylonian art things like that and it became apparent to me that what CERN, the people who are promoting the project of CERN beyond the physicists and engineers. The folks who are really behind this and I call this a nefarious agenda are using occult practices, which we'll get into in a minute. But looking at the occult connections between CERN and the planets and it became apparent to me that they were trying to re-establish some form of physical connection or least at minimum line of communication with Saturn. And then I came across the Thunderbolts project. It was not the other way around

23:10 I had heard about the Thunderbolts Project and the Electric Universe Theory, but I had never gone to their site and really dug into it. Turns out one of the original founding members of Thunderbolt Project lives two miles from my house. And we have a meeting next week set up to discuss this theory of mine because they have not put together, to my knowledge they've not put together the connection between the Large Hadron Collider and Saturn itself so were going to have a meeting on the mines next week. Hmm that's exciting Well, I'll update you on that and if you want to elaborate on my theory a little bit here. If you want me go on with it? Absolutely! Please do. Okay... essentially what it looks like is there's an attempt to establish what are known as Birkeland currents These are electrical fields two electric charge fields that arrange themselves in a twisted or helical fashion

24:13 comprised of an electric plasma. And it appears to me that they are trying to project Birkeland currents, to the southern pole of Saturn in the form a twisted helix, a plasma conduit is what I call it establishing a plasma, electric plasma conduit between the southern pole of Saturn and CERN itself. And the purpose of this...and again this where gets really strange if isn't strange already There are demonic entities, according to the occult, according to ancient writings. There are demonic entities that reside within the gaseous body of Saturn and it is their agenda

24:58 This is not me. This is their material that I'm reading. It's their agenda to free those entities and bring them back to our plane of existence, to our world and they will do that through a conduit established at the southern pole of Saturn Man, I love this and it does tie in a lot of different aspects. A lot of different threads in the conspiracy realm so when I first heard you talking about this I was like wow! This could be the deepest depths to the rabbit hole and as far out as it might seem to double back just a little bit to the Electric Universe model

25:40 The premise or the idea is that electricity is a lot bigger part of our fundamental makeup of the universe than we are taught. And, uh, the reason why Saturn evolved planets is because maybe in our previous age this golden age Saturn might have played a much bigger role in creating our environment right? That's correct I can tell you've done your homework I commend you Thank You Yes, indeed. In what was known as the Golden Age which predates the Sumerian times and the Babylonian times, predates The Flood in biblical times, the theory again or the writings of the occult practitioners that carry forward to this day in their existence and practices was that there was an alignment of three planets that were in close proximity to Earth. The first closest was Mars

26:37 The next was Venus and then behind that in a straight line, if you picture this line extending up from the Earth was Saturn itself. And Saturn was so close and so large that it actually blotted out most of the Sun or obscured most of it except the rim of the Sun. Therefore you have ancient carvings that depict this alignment in close proximity of the three planets to Earth and thus establishing an electrical plasma connection between those three aligned planets on the surface of the Earth itself, thereby creating a lot of images that we see in stone carvings and paintings and whatnot that depict what are really according to Thunderbolt's project not necessarily

27:31 gods or entities that are alive, but actually plasma configurations. The radiating of plasma fields the shapes and morphologies of different plasma energies that are seen in particular the plasma conduit that is connecting those three planets with the Earth including Saturn Man, it is tough to imagine what the environment might have been but from what I understand looking at the material seems like there was some type of envelope or cocoon that almost encapsulated the whole planet. It was almost like an environment that was more stable around the whole globe rather than these being changing seasons of extreme heat and extreme cold, is that accurate? Yes it is because you have essentially the relationship of Saturn to the Earth such that you are blocking most of the energy from the Sun

28:31 And the time of day is presented as crescent shapes of the Sun, rather than crescent shapes of the phases of the Moon. Picture the crescent shapes of the Sun and it peaks around at different quadrants of the clock around Saturn and therefore you do have a change in the seasons. In fact during that Golden Age our atmosphere was much denser higher in concentrations of oxygen and warmer, and therefore you see the promoting of things that we would call giants in terms of dinosaurs and also perhaps even the Nephilim themselves.

29:13 Right and this is so fascinating because this could really be a component to why you know, because if you get into the science of electricity and understanding the way electricity works You could start stumbling upon ideas like we're talking about now. And this seems to be fundamental knowledge that some of these shadowy puppet masters and secret societies have wanted to keep quiet for so long. It also gets into mythology of course because all the planets are named after gods and it starts to get into this weird territory because we have all this sun worship that cropped up at a time but you know were they talking about Saturn, were they talking about the Sun? It gets really weird but I guess there are some clues within mythology that this could've been the case right?

29:57 Absolutely there are. And I think if we put on a different pair of glasses, so to speak and we begin to look at the universe through electric glasses rather than the gravimetric glasses that we have been taught that is based upon Einstein's theory of the universe all of our mathematics all over modeling in the universe and all over modeling physics and how things at the quantum level behavior based upon our gravity model However, if you flip that over and use a different set of glasses and look at it as far as the effects of electricity, the movement of electrons and the movement of accelerated particles

30:37 The world and the universe looks entirely different than what we accept as the truth today, when in fact Einstein and Tesla in their later years said openly in the public and were ignored saying, We're wrong. It's not gravity it's electricity Right and that's again an interesting component because when you look through history of things that have been covered up, like one of the greatest scientists who focused on electricity Tesla he's been one of the most buried scientists. One of most oppressed guys out there also the UFO field in the technology for crafts seems to be in this electromagnetic realm. The Nazi bell apparently wasn't going into this realm so when you look at all the major themes of things

31:27 have been buried, it seems to be this knowledge of electricity in our universe. We channel it into these wires and put them into everybody's homes and we consider that all electricity is but clearly our environment is very highly charged and electrical. We have lightning you know I mean its out there. Yeah if you go to the, let's think as above so below. Go back out to the cosmos all of the planets communicate with each other through electricity when we see things like comets, the tail of a comet. What we are seeing is actually the electrical plasma interaction between a nearby planetary or star that a comet is passing by. So if you picture a comet passing by our Sun

32:14 As it comes into close proximity to the Sun, it's not the gravity so much that is affecting and creating a tail in a comet. It is actually the electrical fields of positive-negative attracting one another and drawing electrical plasmas off of the comet itself. There's an interaction, and I'll give you another example. We see on the Moon and other moons and heavenly bodies what we have always thought as asteroid or meteorite impacts causing craters on the surface of the Moon

32:51 Some of that is, yes impacts. Most of it is plasma. Most of it is the actual arcing between heavenly bodies that are causing these dimples or these craters in the surface of these bodies like the moon or even asteroids themselves. Picture a carbon arc welder, a stick of carbon And when he strikes an arc, if you look at that with a microscope it looks just like the surface of the moon. Wow! That's some crazy stuff. You know, your whole life you go through school and you're taught all about how the universe works and all this stuff in this whole area is completely left out it's kind of fascinating that more physicists more people who go into these fields don't just stumble upon this information It's kind of amazing how they can quarantine it and no one wanders into that realm And yet if you look at the occult

33:50 If you look at the ancient practitioners of spiritual energies and electric energy, they were using it in the ancient times. And I can cite things like the pyramids in Egypt but for a purpose of focusing, I think if you look at the physics that we know of that we've learned in school as the cover story, the true occult practitioners are using electricity and they're using electricity to manipulate the spirit world. And in fact, the Large Hadron Collider if you were to talk to most of the physicists and engineers there they'd say oh no we hold to the gravity model, we don't hold to the electric model of the universe! And yet the people that are behind their funding and dictating the agenda of how this machine is going to be used its ultimate purpose it's all about electricity

34:47 And so, if we talk about tera electron volts that are being generated at time of collision of particles moving near the speed of light. We are producing electrical fields from these collisions but were also producing huge gravity waves which are also part of the Electric Universe because anytime you accelerate a particle through an electrical field, you generate magnetic energy. So the guys that are pushing the agenda, they're using the electricity and this is where the physics led me to them establishing the Birkeland current electric plasma conduit connection of the southern pole with Saturn. Right! And man obviously the Saturn symbolism has been coded into our culture everywhere through Hollywood... The black cube we see at so many different places which is apparently a symbol of Saturn

35:42 Why Saturn and not say Jupiter or Mars? Of course we're going with the line that it's because there are some entities that are somehow locked in there or reside there, but do we know why they would reside inside Saturn or on Saturn as opposed to another planet? Well, Saturn and Jupiter are very much connected to one another electrically physically but they're also connected spiritually and also from the ancients of the you know relationships of gods. And their spin-off, their family if you will. I haven't really explored Jupiter in a sense whether there are entities residing there. I've stopped with Saturn because if I go any further I'll probably just lose my mind

36:29 But just looking at the writings and the occult practices alone, it is clearly evident that they believe that there are entities in Saturn. And that is much like a prison planet. So I can't really speak to other planets except to say they are part of the same family. There are husbands and wives and cousins and children and all of that in ancient mythologies connected with the planets But there is, from a biblical standpoint... the idea that Saturn is Elysium. There was a movie that came out with Jodie Foster, you know somewhat akin to that but Elysium spelled with an e is Saturn and in that description of Saturn it is a prison planet as well as The Bottomless Pit, the Earth having its own share of demonic entities hell for example residing within the earth itself

37:30 It appears to me that there's going to be a joining of forces, that the forces that are trapped in Saturn will be brought to join up with the forces that are in the bottomless pit. And I'm sure you've heard of CERN and the LHC referred to as the key to the bottomless pit and in Revelation they talk about opening the bottomless pit and these scorpions and other entities coming out of the bottomless pit Yeah, it gets into some creepy territory for sure and something I was just considering. You know in ancient times of course whether we're talking about the Bible the Nag Hammadi texts

38:10 any mythology. It seems like they're talking about many gods, many beings... it seems like communication with entities was a much more regular thing you read the Bible and miracles are happening angels are appearing there seems to be a lot more paranormal activity just in general and then you come you know you're in 2015 with a boring nine-to-five reality and nothing weird ever seems to happen in your little bubble of control And I'm curious, I wonder if the reason why this contact was so much more prevalent or seemed to be is because of our actual closer proximity to Saturn. Absolutely! I am totally convinced of it. Wow

38:49 And so, can you talk to us a little bit more about Saturn's poles? Because I think there are some things about the poles and their connection to CERN that are pretty fascinating. That is a great question! Many of your audience may have seen the video and images, the gifs of the northern pole on Saturn The northern pole of Saturn if you were to look down upon it and then overlay a schematic for a synchrotron particle accelerator, and you were to look at specifically the shape of several of the detectors within the Large Hadron Collider which is a large synchrotron particle accelerator. You would notice that the hexagonal shape

39:39 is identical and that the movement of the clouds at the northern pole of Saturn, contrarotating clouds one spinning in one direction within and an outer ring spinning in an opposite direction. It's exactly the same thing as what is occurring in the main ring of a large Hadron Collider with two opposing contra-rotating streams of particles, of protons that then collide which then generate synchrotron energies. The Large Hadron Collider is a mimic of...a model of..a replication of the Northern Pole of Saturn. Man! It just gets weirder and weirder You got a weird guy on the line here you're talking to

40:25 But to go back to the physics for just a moment, the northern pole let's picture it as a synchrotron large hadron collider. The southern pole is a spiral and that is the opening connecting the two are Birkeland currents the Electric Universe. You have sigpatron energies that are generated at the Nord and then are transmitted through the core of the gaseous planet, it doesn't have a solid core but picture a conduit, a twisted helix looks identical to the human DNA helix that that goes from the Northern Pole to the Southern Pole, and then it will exit through the Southern Pole to spiral much like the Norway Spiral we saw when CERN was fired up at the time that the President received the Nobel Peace Prize.

41:15 and you have the same spiral that is being generated. That spiral will extend from the Earth in the form of that twisted helix to match up with the spiral at the southern pole of Saturn, they're identical. Wow! And so when you're looking at Saturn, of course one of the other big features of it are the rings... Are the rings do they come into this at all? Now the rings are much like what you see from the Large Hadron Collider when we're talking about gravimetric waves. What you're seeing of the rings is really nothing more than a physical manifestation of the electrical or synchrotron energies that are given off by the northern pole of Saturn, so they are generating electricity on Saturn that spins out

42:09 in the form of rings that, because they're magnetic because of the movement of particles as I said through an electric field causes a magnetic or gravitational if you will but a magnetic force that brings in matter from around the planet. So the rings are an extension of the synchrotron that is operating on the planet of Saturn itself so it's just sucking in debris Because you have a band of magnet magnetic energy that is created by the synchrotron effects at the northern pole Wild stuff now. I've also heard you talk about this in the context of Jacob's ladder Which is really what we are talking about and that this is a story about a similar type of plasma conduit Do you think that's what they were trying to write about? Yes

43:03 It's often referred to as the coming and goings of angels. These are not the nice angels that we want to think about, these are the comings and goings of spiritual demonic entities that the occult believe they can attract back to this planet so it'll be a form of communication its perhaps a two-way conduit but more importantly its one way conduit in the beginning Yeah, man. I love this area especially when we're talking about non-human entities because it seems like more and more apparent to me going down this rabbit hole that at the top of the pyramid there's a powerful non human influence. We've seen plenty

43:46 cryptic symbols and rituals over the years. We know that these secret societies go back as far as written history, and they've always been communicating with or taking orders from something I mean whether you say it's aliens demons fallen angels reptilians Or even some archons is the new term people like but to me It's all different way to express the same kind of concept. I mean, maybe these beings are playing the long game? Maybe they've given these dark priesthoods the tools like fractional reserve banking and the court system and all these tools that control in exchange for well to put them in a position where they actually have amassed enough power and resources even build a portal maker like CERN. I mean that could be their endgame it's like you know the old motif of making a deal with the devil. It is the end game, let's go back to Tesla for a moment. Tesla readily admitted in the beginning

44:40 life and his research, he was communicating with what he considered to be the good guys. The good entities and he was receiving information for the good purposes but he admitted that in this latter part of his life, he turned on the dark side And he began to receive information from entities that wanted to change him from a person who was trying to help humanity, to one that was trying to create weapons. What we see leaping forward today in the Large Hadron Collider is an extrapolation of all other research with Tesla and he received from the dark entities.

45:20 It's almost like our scientists are in some form of possession by these entities and they're just tinkering away trying to manifest their will. The part that is fuzzy for me in understanding some of this, why non-physical beings would have a physical location like Saturn? Yeah, and it's fuzzy for me too because I'm not a practitioner of the occult. And I try not to go too far into that only to see the surface of it and see what their intentions are or what they're willing to talk about Because I'm right there with you. It's pretty fuzzy Why would they be imprisoned there in the first place and not on? And just honor or the earth itself and perhaps there are people in the audience that can Send you information about that because I haven't and I choose not to go much deeper into the occult Because of that so I can't give you a ready answer, I can only say I've made some connections in physics I've looked at some of the ancient you know

46:20 practices and I've looked at the theory of the Electric Universe, it makes sense to me. Me too! Maybe we can detail a couple those occult connections you've seen in terms of CERN? Of course a lot people have been talking about this strange dance ritual they did... A lot of people talk about the Shiva statue Are there any other things you've seen in subtexts of what they're doing that make the occult connections more obvious Have you run across the Hebrew and Sanskrit writings or parchments that are on display behind plates of glass at CERN? No, I think that's new to me. I'll send you some photographs of that but basically you have ancient Hebrew and Sanskrit writings on parchment and animal skins that are preserved between plates of glass and they're on display in public display in fact

47:15 at CERN. And these talk about things like bringing back the former gods, bringing back the former spirits, the year of light, the age of illumination... all of the things that we see going on right now in terms of the Illuminati are reflected in these writings and these are carryovers from other areas of writing such as Alistair Crowley and Jack Parsons and JPL, pardon me. And all of these origins to our programs such as NASA and other scientific endeavors that all have their core foundations, their germinations coming from the occult practices right down the line every area of science whether we're talking human DNA or hard physics

48:11 But right to the Large Hadron Collider, we have occult practices throughout and symbolism throughout. If you look at the shape of the detectors from end on when they have a detector that's open... You see photographs with the Large Hadron Collider, they're usually showing you the detectors These are hexagonal and octagonal shaped structures from an end view if you were to slice it open And these have replications over to the Hindu god Shiva that you see the statue of, but they also have replications out to the northern pole of Saturn in its hexagonal shape. You see the shapes which are geometric, which are mathematical and mathematics is tied into the occult

48:59 Numerology, lots of people are familiar with the numerology in terms of the spiritual world. And everything that is built at Saturn is built up mathematically to be tied into the ancient practices of The Tower of Babel and The Conjuring of Spirits and The Opening of Ancient Portals using mathematics and the geometric shapes of the machines or the tower itself back from the ancient times Man, now if this portal was open would you suspect this is something we could see with our eyes? I mean we kind of saw the Norway spiral. It looked very odd but we did see something! If we are still alive and if we are still here to witness it then everybody's seen the northern lights so let's just picture the northern lights for a moment – the Aurora Borealis

49:56 Picture that, but multiply it a thousandfold or hundredfold whatever it's going to be. But this will be an electric aurora borealis type display between Saturn and the Earth that will be visible to everyone on the planet because of electrical discharge effects that will take place. And this was visible as you see in the pictures that you've noted in The Electric Universe the same visible plasma conduit that existed in the Golden Age was visible to ancient man, will likewise be visible to us here on Earth in the modern times. Hmm... Wow! That would be crazy to see

50:34 Now when we look at ancient structures like the pyramids, we notice certain alignments to celestial bodies and CERN might not need to be aligned in a similar way but is there anything about its position or maybe the times that it's at peak performance that coincide with our position in the solar system? Or really anything they can help us make this stronger case that there is a Saturn connection. That's fascinating you bring that up because Tuesday I had a conversation with my good friends at End Times Matrix News, Chris and Tim. Chris is extremely knowledgeable in the ancients – unbelievable how she keeps the family trees all in order!

51:13 But I really encourage people to go to End Times Matrix News and listen, you can go the YouTube channel. Go to my website, the same conversations are on my website. We have spent hours and hours talking about all this stuff. And I'm not trying to take your audience away from you Gregg, I am just saying that there is another resource for people The ancients, Egypt. If we are talking about planetary alignments Tuesday in our conversation at the very end we opened up a new rabbit hole and we are presently researching this rabbit hole that has to do with the alignments of the Large Hadron Collider, the pyramids in Egypt to be specific to pyramids and also UC Berkeley

52:07 the Bay Area specifically, and I'll get into that in a moment. The alignment that we're looking at if you were to look at a graphical representation of the Large Hadron Collider looking down on it from above and looking at the main ring, you will see the four main detectors um...that are positioned around the ring And what we are looking at is September 13th through the 23rd 24th 25th September 13th as a starting point for a possible alignment of one of the detectors. We think it's going to be Alice, the Alice detector being in alignment with the North Star Polaris which is in Ursa Major, The Big Dipper and this was all in my first book Covert Catastrophe but I'm gonna give you the thumbnail sketch but also stop for a moment if you want interjecting then I'll pursue that little further

53:05 That timing is really interesting because it does coincide with I believe a time that they're going to be trying to ramp up the experiment. We talked about TEVs and how strong the signal can be, and apparently they're trying to reach a new peak right in that late September mid-September window right? Absolutely. What they're doing in late May, early June they will begin collisions and they will achieve 13 Tera electron volts TEV that's using protons to collide with one another In September they will switch to ions of lead much heavier and denser than protons And with those collision of heavier particles in September, early September

53:53 they will be achieving 14 plus tera electron volts. Fourteen is what the niobium titanium superconducting magnets are capable of controlling, they cannot produce any power higher than fourteen TeV. They have to switch over to niobenum-10 and there will be a three year shutdown that will entail that but not to digress too far yes fourteen TeV early September they will be continuing the same power level through until almost Christmas, colliding particles of lead. And that does coincide with a number of things that I call coalescing of events. There's a coalescing of a lot of things happening in early September and all the way through September spiritually, religiously, physics-wise cosmology wise... The timing is pointing to September and

54:50 The issue with the alignments that you started with is that I believe we will see the Alice detector where strainslets are produced coinciding and pointing to, in a triangulated fashion to the north of the North, the northern star in Ursa Major. drawing out a triangle from the North Star to the Giza Pyramid and then over across the baseline, to UC Berkeley. And back out through from UC Berkeley where they have a synchrotron particle accelerator back through the Golden Gate Bridge in alignment with Ursa Major in September possibly the 13th of September.

55:36 That is interesting. So are there any other aspects to the Berkeley connection outside of the alignment that make it a player in this little conspiracy? There are multitudes and that's where I started my books because I went to UC Berkeley. I grew up in the Bay Area, I'm in the middle of...I was when I was growing up and going through college in the middle of Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, The Human Genome Project at Walnut Creek next door to the city of Lafayette where I grew up which is next door to Berkeley where I went for school and Berkeley is loaded and whole Bay Area is loaded with occult symbology

56:15 Let me give you one direct connection between Berkeley and the Large Hadron Collider, and that is the ESNet5. The Energy Systems Network – that is Internet 2. There are 160 laboratories around the world that are connected to CERN by way of this internet system fiber optic 100 gigabyte per second throughput I think it's… but anyway Berkeley is the hub of ESnet 5, the distribution of data coming out of CERN and connecting 160 other laboratories most which have particle accelerators. And the hub of that internet system between the laboratories is controlled at UC Berkeley

57:04 Now, I'll give you... Do you want the significance of why they're the hub? Absolutely. Okay two things one it's the occult center for everything that's going on scientifically in the world Berkeley and the Bay Area where the Silicon Valley is located Google Ames laboratory NASA Lockheed everything that is going on in the physical occult world is happening in the Bay Area. And this is new information you're getting out of me today, okay? I haven't presented this on any of the other shows that have been on. Now, the physics standpoint if you will, is the control

57:50 of the distribution system at Berkeley, the hub is there because it's in physical proximity to Google and physical proximity to D-Wave Corporation. I hope one will get sued for this but D-Wave Corporation is a manufacturer of the adiabatic quantum computer The latest model is the 2048 which was part of my title of my book Model 2048 came out a couple of weeks ago, well actually about three months ago. It has the equivalent processing power of 7 billion human brains

58:28 And it is artificially intelligent that's connected to berkeley hub yes net five interlinking the hundred and sixty laboratories around the world directly to the large a drone collider, when last new information damn. That is quite a serious connection wow man so Yeah, I guess a lot of countries are invested in CERN. A lot of them are involved but how many people could really be in the know about this secret agenda? Well...I always say that the physicists and scientists hold no ill will towards any of those people In fact, I really feel sad for them because they have been deceived They have bought into the grand deception of the New Age movement

59:21 that what they truly believe. They are doing positive humanitarian work and that they are going to promote the ascension of man to a higher level of evolution, to a higher level of existence. And that they're going to recreate The Garden Of Eden here on this earth. That they're going to terraform this earth and they are going to change man in that we are going to eliminate war and poverty and all the other ills of our life through the work that they're doing to open the portal and bring in what they believe to be benevolent ancestors from the stars. They believe that we are products of panspermia, that we are going to be helped by our ancestors to achieve a higher level of existence of peace in nirvana." Hmm... how wrong they are! Yeah, and another great element of this whole thing is

1:00:22 since the 60s, since the 40's really. Since Roswell people have been talking about the secret space program is just a couple of decades ahead of us and what they have is way more advanced than what we have but were kind of getting to be apex here where these secret technologies are spilling out into the mainstream but they're just lying about what their there for and as the endgame approaches they're getting way more bold about being like, I don't care if you know what we're doing. Like we're doing it! We are already here at the finish line. That's right and i think we need to look at September there is going be a lot happening between now and September A lot happening but I really think that we need to look at September as their time frame Their marker As to absolutely incredible

1:01:09 Things that are gonna happen that I will encapsulate down to just saying, I think that's when they're going to open the portal. Yeah, i mean September has been a big deal in the past we know that also a lot of researchers talk about the equinoxes and were probably getting into some type of fall equinox i believe is somewhere in there but Yeah, it's interesting. Definitely a time to watch but wow man we've been all over the map I guess that does it for us so I could do it all day But I really do love the Electric Universe theory and the Saturn tie-in And I think you're really on to something man before I cut you loose would you like to tell people where they can follow up on your work and also get your books which thanks for sharing those with me that they're awesome and fiction of course is a great way to get complex

1:01:57 concepts across and that's what your books do, and they do a great job. So I do appreciate that too. I had a good time with them but definitely let the people know little bit more Okay, well thank you. My website is AnthonyPatch.com You can buy my books through there. The two novels are $5 a piece I'm not making them bunch of money on this it just helps defray some of my costs and the first part of my companion book of science is two dollars and The other two parts will be coming out soon. I have been blocked on Facebook this week

1:02:34 My Facebook pages were Anthony Patch as well as Tony Patch. I'm now available at James, my middle name, James Patch so So Facebook, I'll rebuild everything as I have time on Facebook. It's just crazy but they're going after me right now and for the time being I still have a YouTube channel which is Anthony Patch and all of my interviews with End Times Matrix News and other venues such as The Higher Side Chats are all available on there I really appreciate it if people will purchase the books and support what I'm doing, but I'm not in it for the money. That's not my mission in life." And the other part is that because they are novels, I consider them to be

1:03:21 A buffet of topics. Much of what we've touched on today, they were written with an audience in mind or a readership in mind that has not been exposed to the things that you and I are talking about today. And if it peaks their interest that they would then pursue down the rabbit holes of interest to them on their own so there're not an in-depth study on these subjects, they are simply an introduction. And that's you know I appreciate you bringing me on Greg and i'm happy to come on if you want me to come on again in a later time um...I don't know how much longer I'll be doing this because it looks like they're trying to cut me off

1:04:03 Well, hopefully they won't and I would love to do this again sometime probably in early September. We'll see what's happened between now and then. I did just look up on my phone when the fall equinox is and it is September 23rd right in that window so... There it goes! That's just another layer, another connection but yeah we will definitely have to talk around that time very cool man Thanks again for your time. My mind is thoroughly blown, keep fighting the good fight and hopefully we can do this again before that inevitable overrun of the Saturnian demon army! All right my friend well I want to say God bless to you and i don't want anyone to walk away in fear um...my mission in life is too encourage people who turn to god because that's the answer

1:04:48 Well, thanks again man. I will let you go enjoy your day Thank you. I appreciate that very much god bless you all right there we have it people damn I thought that was great I was so happy to get to talk about Saturn and the Electric Universe model again I love the various theories in that realm And I still want to get the real Thunderbolt project guys on the show if you're interested in not happening Please help me get them on here. I thought Anthony did a great job of incorporating that stuff into his material too And I thought it was all fascinating, but of course a lot of listeners might not resonate with that Christian lens Anthony looks through. It's no secret that I don't but...I can cut around that in my own mind and still get a lot out his material. I'm a big boy! But anything about Saturn or technology and magic, I get a little bit giddy for

1:05:38 So of course if you want to hear more check out the Plus show. What was in the plus show? Well, we talked about the channeling of complex multi-dimensional mathematics Programs that are creating synthetic DNA The transhumanist part of the puzzle Third strand DNA Mandatory vaccinations Google's role in the agenda The LHC has a Nazi bell 2.0 The time component the 432 Hertz Tuning and the musical frequency component of this storing data and synthetic diamonds, but quite a good show. Crowe also has a third piece out for THC I'll be putting up right after this episode you can find that on

1:06:19 on And read stuff. And of course the next episode will be the 5th of the month, so get any donations in for The Money Bomb we will have a winner of about 300 bucks I don't think i ever played The Message from the last guy but he did eventually get back to me and claim the bomb But please if you are donating keep an eye on your email towards the end of the month It's kind of the only way that I can reach you because I'm not going to be renting a minivan To show up at your doorstep with a dozen balloons and giant check

1:07:04 But like I had mentioned, I do have a show that I'm going to be putting out as extra rather than part of the regular roster because I just didn't think it went as planned and maybe it was weak point. Then I already did record the first show for May and am psyched about that one! So I think we've been on pretty good stride lately... I hope to keep that up. Again, if you do sign up for PLUS we have a new forum there. I've read a lot of great threads already and working on getting a couple moderators for it Contact me if you have a history of that kind of thing and would like to help out I will give you plus for free as long as you Help moderate those forums which apparently won't be much longer than the fall equinox If Anthony's time frame ends up being accurate And I do think it's interesting that so much of the transhumanist technology Anthony talks about seems to be

1:08:08 the real embodiment of Ultron in the new Avengers movie. And if you saw Iron Man 3 where in the movie they had Ben Kingsley's character being an actor playing a fake terrorist fronting for a corporation, You would realize these movies huge blockbusters owned now by Disney produced by people in The Big Club may be coincidence maybe chosen because these are the flavor or the week Kind of issues, maybe because transhumanism is a trend now. Or maybe it's foreshadowing something down the road. Gotta watch that release date too May 1st Also if you remember Carrie Cassidy's episode from a few weeks back Maybe a couple months back actually now We gotta watch this new Jurassic Park movie and see how the raptor aliens are portrayed See if their little PR campaign works out Well I'm not buying it Raptors

1:09:00 Ya bad. Thanks for listening guys, I'm getting out of here. I'll see you real soon! Just a few days left in the month until then...I have done my part Your move Technological 3-Strand DNA Husks for the Satanic Saturn Army of Ultron your frickin' move Well i wonder what it's like to be a Rainmaker I wonder what its like to know that I made the rain I store boxes with little yellow tags on every one And you can come and see them when I'm done, when I'm done Well I wonder what it's like to be a superhero Wonder where I'd go if I could fly around downtown

1:10:10 From some other planet I get this funky high on the yellow sun Boy, I bet my friends will all be their stunts Yeah, yeah Straight up why didn't you hope for what about here If I was someone else we'd just all fall apart Strange where were you when we started this game? I wish the whole damn world would listen to THC I wonder what it's like to be the head honcho

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