Analog | Anomalous Minnesota, Lost Underground Cities, The Etruscans, & The Rise Of False Rome

03:53 Where would we be? THC The highest side, Jack Show, Greg Carlwood From the Sunshine State I'm Greg Carlwood and it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. Despite the best efforts of The Big Machine and our endless embeddedness within a boiling pot of hypnotized masses fixated on soaking in every last scalding drop of propaganda misdirection and political sleaze And even if your discernment dial is properly calibrated for today's climate It's easy to get sucked into thinking that our history, at least is based on some unadulterated and unbiased absolutes that we know we can all trust and depend on. But why should be drawn to assuming that past generations weren't just as prone to swallowing similar state-sponsored stories as the ones that plague us in the present? Or why would those with control of accreditations publishing in the constructing of academic consensus somehow be worse at determining what information should make it through and what won't

04:54 When the further you go back, the fewer outlets were required to compromise and the more intertwined power was with every little detail. Well, today's returning guest analog is no stranger to thinking along these very lines as he has made a serious name for himself through his dedication to digging through the digitized archives of old newspapers, out-of-print sources and obscure documents. And collecting the reports of dead giants buried buildings hidden and destroyed ruins across America underground cities out-of-place artifacts mummies mounds and many other things inconsistent with preapproved story You can follow along on his YouTube channel, The Archivist and keep tabs on his Twitter at 1 underscore analog underscore 9. He's been popping in every six months or so to update us on the ongoing research and I'm psyched for our fourth go around a man on a quest to restore the memory of civilizations lost suppressed information and an ancient golden age my friend in yours analog how the hell are you?

05:52 Hey, Greg. Could it be back on? Can't believe it's number four already. Yeah six months goes by really fast and maybe I'm jumping the gun here but it seems like we got a bit of an announcement you retired from the day job to be analog full time is that true yeah almost 20 years with the same company so wow definitely a big leap So yeah, I've just taken almost two months off of YouTube and anything technology related just to enjoy summer with the kids. Obviously is this being the only time that's actually been a possibility? So yeah you're the first person i've talked to through camera in almost 2 months

06:31 It's been nice, but it's also good to have a lot of material that's just been waiting and it's going to be good to get back at it. And you know, get back into an almost America episode 22 is going to be Wisconsin and then episode three of Ireland the great buried empires is coming up so yeah lots of stuff in the works but big life changes. Yes well I appreciate you taking a break from the brake to do this And for the unfamiliar again the crux of your work is finding very strange articles in old newspapers and people can draw their own conclusions as if they can be. Asked if they can be trusted or not but understand that hearing one or two might sound crazy and isolation but you've been doing this work for years now and the further you gone, the more you find and a clear picture forms about the past which is a radical departure from conventional history in many many ways

07:27 With so many different threads to keep track of but the key a lot of it straight you've been doing this as you say anomalous america series so far you done alaska all the western states texas louisiana mississippi arkansas missouri kentucky illinois ohio and indiana. And since we last did this you added minnesota and iowa bringing that totaled 21 state so far, and this structure to the series just shows people how much of this material there really is and how it's present in these newspaper archives no matter what state you look at. You've got other threads running too, which I'm sure we will get to but i wanted to kick this off with a great overview article that makes the case that the epic findings across America used to be talked about fairly openly

08:15 And articles like this were found in local newspapers all the time, but this one is The Antiquities of America 1858. The antiquities of America extend from the eastern shores of Maine and Massachusetts to the Pacific and from the Great Lakes and British Dominions to Peru and La Plata in South America—in fact throughout the extent of both continents Immense forests grew over the ruins of large cities and the gigantic size of trees gives indications that other generations of trees sprang up and grew before them, proving that the ruins were in existence before the Christian era. In every portion of the United States interesting ruins have been discovered."

08:58 In the state of new york have been found sculptured figures of one hundred animals a different species executed in a style far superior to anything exhibited by the existence of indian tribes. State of ohio abounds and ruins of towns and fortifications with extensive mounds and pyramids, At Marietta and in Missouri, beautiful pottery, silver and copper ornaments, and pearls of great beauty and luster have been dug from the earth. In the caves of Tennessee and Kentucky mummies have been found in a high state of preservation clothed with cloths and skins of various texture inlaid with feathers. Like discoveries have been made in Carleton near Milwaukee, in the state of Wisconsin where ruins of huge fortifications appear similar ruins appear Missouri on the south side of the Missouri River and the western portion of the state is an enclosure of some 500 acres which includes the ruins of a building no doubt an ancient tower with walls 100 feet high and 80 feet wide at the base

10:00 attached to which is a citadel of work much resembling the structure of a tower in Europe. But it is in the south of Mexico that beautiful ruins present themselves in abundance, ruins of majestic cities and magnificent temples and altars with beautiful works of sculpture tastefully wrought palaces adorned with paintings colors chiefly sky blue and light green which show their richness and elegance to be the work of highly cultivated people." I just like that one for how broad it is. And they were talking about this ancient America far differently in 1858 than they do today." Yeah, wonderful synopsis there and one of my favorite articles too you know? There's not a to-the-point article especially when you're describing something to kind of the layman people unfamiliar with the idea of what America used to be or used to look like and yeah that

10:59 Castle, so to say there in Missouri. You know 100 foot tall walls 80 feet wide at the base I mean that's monumental and that's one of dozens now that i've covered And yeah if I was going to do like kind of an introduction to Anomalous America That article would be like a great reason To justify the legwork right? But yeah covering every state you find all this When people look at the idea of what America looked like pre-expansion, that article talked about before the Christian era. The idea that all of North and South America, Central America was covered in ruins and temples and cities of a stature to the point where cities were so large they could have housed millions of people. It's pretty hard to wrap your mind around it

11:57 So that was again, a big motivator to breaking it up into states because there's so much to go over and digest. That was really the only way to do it. But yeah I love that article. Yeah, this is good one and let's talk Minnesota my personal favorite in this section of the work is an article about someone who went to dig out a root cellar which has its own thing which is kind of like a form of natural technology that we don't use anymore Same like cold cupboards, you could dig a hole that could be quite nice. You can tile it. You can have it come into your kitchen and it would be permanently cold

12:36 and would keep all your food without the monthly electric bill. But regardless, this guy was digging out a root cellar and he ran into an iron ring not only is this wild in of itself but this was printed in two different papers can you break this one down for us? Yeah you'll have to help me a little bit through that one but Iron itself is really important because, you know the idea of what the iron age was or what that represented in the timeframes that allow that to be possible don't really make sense when we look at it. The kind of understanding of the ages of America especially when they talk about the copper age and this is a common theme and every state people digging below their home are a farmer digging on their field

13:28 uncover something that's not supposed to be there. And basements are a big part of that, and I'm sure as we get farther into this will talk more about the kind of idea again of the mound complexes and how it's been much easier from historical perspectives to classify them all as burial mounds but come to find out most of the time they're buried cities in your finding just the top of buildings so here we are person that's got a home on top of whatever type topography that existed at the time. And yeah, he's digging a root cellar and... The article says he is digging this root cellar and finds an iron ring. It's like oh that's odd! Then he is pulling on the iron ring and finds out it's attached to a giant door. So then they're like wow what's this? Then they open the door and find a flight of stairs carved out of solid rock. And it opens up into a giant cave

14:28 And so this is the story in the local paper. And then you go on next to read from a paper in New York where they're talking about this incredible discovery in Minnesota and of course, down inside the cave was found a seven foot tall skeleton that's just like boring at this point but the fact that this iron door, I mean i don't know if the door was iron but it's like a doorknocker on a big door. I remember the door was iron as well or some kind of metal okay right? I thought so but didn't want to say because you know I always want to be more tempered and not make things bigger than they seem or add facts to it embellish but yeah really wild and that was just my favorite one because it's not just a cave it's clearly

15:19 I mean, maybe they used a natural formation to help them get started on this massive chamber that the store led to. But I like the corroboration from two different sources that talk about this and just incredible. I don't know exactly where in Minnesota it is just on some farmland but wild. Yeah, the iron artifacts have been found all over. I covered them in Alaska and New Mexico and Arizona and Ohio, and Missouri. But yeah you know just our understanding of iron and where it fits in the timelines isn't... You know that's all-you got to throw all these things out in metallurgy especially from the perspective of anomalous America they found enough out of place artifacts that the kind of idea of tempered steel and the Iron Age and tempered copper

16:12 Also gemstones, you know diamonds and emeralds and rubies and jade. And all of these things are found to a very very high degree Very advanced like you mentioned the sculptures in New York basically You name it and they found it here buried below our feet in some kind of structure that itself right without any of the Artifacts that are brought to light or the giant skeletons just these structures alone, you know we have covered cave systems and all that stuff, you know the subterranean realms to a pretty serious extent on these shows. And yeah the cave systems are everywhere and when you find these really big mound pyramidal castle-like complexes I guarantee you there is a subterranean element to it we kind of covered i believe maybe was episode two or three? I can't remember exactly

17:05 But the Cahokia St. Louis complex, remember we talked about that tunnel that's under the Mississippi River? That connected St. Louis with the Cahokia mounds and they said as they excavated all these mounds not only on the St. Louis side but also in Indiana or Illinois I'm sorry maybe it was Indiana...that they were all connected underground and then as they got deeper they'd keep breaking into these caverns and that they connected with the mountains. And I believe the same thing existed with any of these forts, like you mentioned right? Because imagine how much of that castle that you mentioned earlier was buried right it's like these walls they find like The Rockwall in Texas that we've talked about or The Great Wall in Mississippi where they dig down and they never find the bottom They go 60 feet or more and they don't find the bottom of these walls. The idea that were dealing with a culture

18:04 the idea of who came before the Native Americans or, quote, the aborigines of America. And you ask them especially a lot of these books written in 1800s again they tell you that there was a very advanced civilization that was all but completely destroyed or wiped from the map and that the remnants of this civilization were giants and that there were good giants and that there were evil giants and the evil giants, the redheaded cannibal giants they fought with and slowly destroyed Not to get off track. All good, there is a lot of stuff and I did have a note here about the underground tunnels and chambers in Minnesota stretching to the ones in Saint Louis that we talked about and that is a far stretch usually when it comes to underground stuff everybody's focused on Deere and Kuru which I believe is in Turkey and it isn't impressive crazy complex that looks like a giant underground ant farm for people but

18:59 But to think that we don't have to look over there for that, it's actually right here is also really impressive. And sometimes in these episodes it's hard because we're jumping around based on location and we're talking about several different time depths like the original article I read is talking about giant trees on top of ruins this is the last round of civilization before a potential cataclysm and then we talk about Some of this stuff here in the Minnesota episode was about tropical jungles covering that land and the things they would find are fossils of things that shouldn't have existed there in any known period of time, but that gets into the possibility of the whole.

19:45 Earth being the same climate in that whole golden age stuff with saturn will get into that cuz you found some articles that connect. Saturn quite casually to a golden age when written about old newspapers but the other thing is that, and another time depth if we're just talking about like the eighteen hundreds they still did some incredible stuff that we don't do today and in this minnesota episode You do talk about them having an industrial exposition, kind of like a World's Fair as well as the St. Paul Winter Carnival where they would build giant ice palaces every year in 1886 on up and we don't have the visuals on this show but these ice palaces look just like- They're incredible Yeah they look like a Disney castle made completely of ice blocks And you read in one description

20:41 the dimensions at least one particular year cuz i would rebuild this every year in the winter but the dimension of this one were a hundred ninety four feet by two hundred and seventeen feet that's forty two thousand square feet Today you're doing pretty well if you live in anything close to two thousand square feet so these were clearly massive. In the eighteen eighties maybe it's just an example of cultural decline but you would think that we have more technology, do that now than we did then and yet we don't do anything like that today very impressive these ice palaces that they are just build for fun for a carnal.

21:21 Yeah, I mean we've covered so much on these episodes and yeah it's easy for me to go on a tangent there but anytime you look into the past on any subject you'll be really quite amazed what you find. You know i've kind of just found a niche and you know me and you have been talking for so many years and kind of got the ball rolling for me on exploring this thing breaking it down into something a little bit more presentable but Yeah, every time I do an episode and I go a little bit deeper into some kind of archive from a state perspective. It's amazing the things you find in yeah whether we're talking about underground tunnel systems that connect the United States or mummies are giants. You know the ice palaces in the carnivals and the expositions alone are enough to raise an eyebrow and he could spend a whole career just diving deeper into those and the things that they were discussing and the technologies they were approaching

22:14 It's incredible, you know. Just about everything we've been told is a lie or complete inversion. Indeed and you also show images in this Minnesota episode of giant asylums I've had a couple other guests bring up these massive buildings They look like university campuses and you've said that often the largest buildings in a town would be these ornate, massive asylums. And they're just oddly large to be bigger than a hospital, bigger than anything else in town city hall biggest buildings hands down. Yeah. Always the biggest buildings in every single state I've covered have been the asylums and I think maybe you remember but I believe it was almost 30 in Minnesota alone. These things are hundreds and hundreds of rooms sometimes 1000 or more

23:05 And there's 30 or more of them. And this is an age where we're talking about, and I've covered state capital buildings that they're struggling to come up with the resources in the manpower just to build these state capitals. But all these asylums you'll never ever find a construction story or photographs are drawings of them being built. They're just there. And they are one of the most odd and out-of-place when it comes to this subject matter. going on there. It's torture and it's a nightmare, and you're wondering what kind of necessity would bring those things to fruition and to be built in who was being housed in them? There are a lot more questions than answers with the asylums but again another subject worthy of a deep dive

23:52 Yeah, exactly. When you think about the reason for the asylums it's like yeah okay some people are crazy some people need to be hospitalized it's not exactly a jail but when they're the biggest buildings anywhere around then it's like well how many people were going crazy? How many people were being kept here and tortured? Yeah and they're not in like downtown Milwaukee or downtown Chicago They're in the middle of nowhere often So like, just the resource manpower question alone. You know they're not by railroads right? They're not by rivers and they have three four five level basements on top of the already gigantic structures that exist above the ground

24:39 So yeah, it's dark for sure. Yeah like the Ubliette in Labyrinth It seems like a place to put people to forget about them and when you think about how many people it's pretty wild and then you can parallel that with the orphan trains And it does seem like a giant campaign was carried out where people who knew the old ways or helped establish the areas and found a lot of this stuff, they were just like we're going to ship you off to the asylum. We're gonna bus in or train in a bunch of kids and then we're going to make compulsory schooling a thing so all these kids must go to our state sponsored schools and learn the state history. And it doesn't seem to be much more complicated than that I've heard you say

25:27 in an interview where you were talking about these orphan trains that, in the industrial age you've read in some reports that the workforce was 80% kids under 16 or 18? 16. Yeah it was even higher depending on the state and the city yeah It was even higher in some places yeah its crazy watch ya know some of these earliest videos I'm sure you've seen some of them. There's good ones in Philadelphia, there are some from New York, San Francisco, Pittsburgh... You know it's just like a cameraman set up with a camera filming down the street. There are a few good ones out there that are in kind of an industrial area. I want to say it's Pittsburgh but I can't remember off the top of my head

26:17 And you can kind of hear this sound, it's almost like a end of shift bell or something. And you just see I'd say at least 90% of this workforce or group of people employees however you want to describe it exiting this massive industrial building. You're hard pressed to find one person over 18 again, you're having to kinda guesstimate but And then you work the orphan train stuff into it along with the asylums and forced schooling. Alcohol goes along with this as well because it's all tied in with the same people, the brewmasters, the industrial people, the railroad people, the schooling people they're all kind of part of the same hidden hand so to say and yeah that's how it works. You get rid of the old

27:09 memory in whatever area we're dealing with, you know whether it is we're talking about moving quote Indians on the reservations. But yeah, it's all a complete re-indoctrination of a whole new culture You just building literally a whole new civilization from the ground up. Mm-hmm I just think it's obviously a huge undertaking and it's hard for people to wrap their heads around but when you find out about the orphan trains, you're like wow that's pretty weird and maybe that's an isolated incident. But then you add in the component of the asylums and then you add in the world's fairs and compulsory schooling. Yeah and the baby farms right? We talked about that on an episode That's scary enough but the orphan trains and the asylums they all go hand-in-hand

27:52 And the baby farms clearly are super interesting. There's a lot of old postcards that basically show people with like, a shovel and a hoe in a field and babies popping up now that's not how they were producing babies but they're just trying to illustrate the production of children at a mass scale and some of these royal families would be pretty open at the time about their baby farms. It reminds me of Epstein when he's like, I want to chain up a bunch of women and pregnant all of them and just have them pop out kids constantly with my genetics. And it seems like maybe royal families...I don't know if there was any exotic technology involved really you see those iron lungs and incubators at some world's fairs but it seems they just did it the old fashioned way but they had an operation going, a literal baby factory

28:40 using women for this purpose. Absolutely, yeah and then you work world wars into this and the destruction of a larger populace you know you look at how many people died in World War One and how many French, how many Germans, how many Russians we can cover so many threads that the web can get quite confusing But yeah, it's a dark time. And when you look at the 1800s from historical archaeological perspective that alone is enough that you can kind of get lost in and confused let alone all these other variables but yes we're dealing with a civilization that was destroyed I believe there is more than one event more than one cataclysm so to say like you mentioned the large trees growing on these ruins right because even though quote Indians or aboriginals

29:28 Say that these ruins had been there long before their forefathers. So what happened and that's kind of what I'm trying to uncover But yeah, you can just go into the baby farm orphan train stuff And it's a lot and that's kind of what I'm trying to do with the channels make it digestible but slowly cover all these things That we've been discussing on these interviews Yes, and if you think about Our own time because of course we're talking about a cyclical thing for the most part some kind of natural cataclysmic cycle and that the elite just know about it and they lean into it and they. Reshape society as they want to prepare for it and then there first act when the shit goes down think about our own time,

30:10 It's just so interesting that a lot of people refer to this as the time of awakening. That the reason why it seems like everything is falling apart and everything is so chaotic and corrupt, is not that the ratio of corruption has changed but just the awareness of it has changed. So the perception of it is so intense that it seems like what happened? Nothing except you see now! That's what happened. It always been there but its funny to think about our time and how there's a lot of people awakening to these sorts of things. And there's a lot of copycats of your work now too out there, obviously you know the work is the work but there are many channels popping up doing this stuff and that's just to say in this age of awakening we also are paralleling an age

31:02 World War 3, like they're inching us towards it right when people are waking up to maybe all of our history is a lie and how convenient is that? And maybe this is how its happened in previous times. As soon as we get aware- Maybe its just the time thing like you get 1000 years and the first 500 your just trying to get your feet back under ya then you start to notice things then this process unfolds and then its time for another reset You know, when you think about it from the perspective...you try to look at the day just the normal everyday symbolically connecting it with consciousness. Like you mentioned everything cyclical. Look at our routines every day. The sun comes up and goes down. You can look at that from kind of a psychological perspective and I think these cycles are similar to just 24-hour periods obviously extended. There's nuance to that but you get what I'm saying

32:01 I think there's certainly purpose and kind of a story to life that we're living in, a bit of a movie simulation or whatever you want to say. And that we are who we are at this present time and given this kind of drive to seek these kinds of things out and that it's one little piece in a growing conscious shift. You know? I don't want to get too new agey but I certainly believe there is a ebb and flow to this type of thing. And yeah, like you said everything moves in circles nothing new under the sun right? It's just you're dealing with a new set of conscious limits i suppose and that they're expanding and naturally humans have to fill that gap. Yeah that's the whole yuga cycle! I've got an upcoming show with an expert on that who says that a lot of ancient cultures had a very similar cyclical

32:51 Way of looking at the world and factoring in the rise and fall the ebb and flow of consciousness and what our awareness can take in so. Where returning to the old ways and men as always with you time just flies another thing about minnesota that we have to touch on is the kensington runestone Obviously, with a lot of these things they're found. They're shipped to the Smithsonian. The Smithsonian says well this is a fraud this is a forgery who cares and it's very easy to dismiss something as a forgery but who has the presumption to really know? I mean how do you actually know but yes talk to us about the Kensington Runestone one of Minnesota's biggest anomalies or most popular yeah and I think it's a blessing when it comes to a lot of these things because there have been many instances where

33:43 I mean, we've covered countless and that's only a tiny percentage of the ones I've talked about where the Smithsonian is involved. And we no longer hear anything ever about it again. Then there are those very fortunate events where the artifact stays in the hands of the public in one way or another slips through the cracks It's determined to be a fraud. But again, we've talked about so many things here that are far beyond the idea of this stone being out of place and you know the limits that we would have to go through to keep it concealed from the public That is kind of like child's play at this point but yeah The Kensington Rune Stone is a great one. It was held in the state capitol building I'm not sure if its still there I don't believe so but it was on display for the public for 50 years or more And tells the story of quote

34:32 Norwegian explorers finding their way into the kind of remote area that is Minnesota. But as I get deeper into that area, and kind of why I've been covering the states I've been covering is I'm following the Mississippi right? And I followed that all the way up and now I'm kinda following the Missouri because these were really important thoroughfares help explain a lot of what came before what we would call Aboriginal America But yeah, there was a lot of trade through Minnesota. Next episode of Wisconsin we're going to talk about a castle fort complex called Atzlan which is a really big puzzle piece here We're gonna talk about Rock Lake or Pyramid Lake in Wisconsin the lake that they found a pyramid in The whole town is aware of this it's kind of what made them famous

35:20 connecting this with quote Atlantis the Phoenicians and yeah, the Kensington rune stone is kind of a big marker when it comes to that because I've been covering stone tablets out of place stone tablets from Alaska now all the way to Minnesota telling the same story that the history and the timelines are completely false right? The Kensington Rune Stone from its supposed translation we're dealing with the 1100s-ish Similar stones have been found. There were carvings found in British Columbia, there were carvings found in Washington State In that same time frame 1100-1300 and they love to attribute it to kind of Viking esque Norwegians but I'm going deeper and showing the relation between the Etruscans a deeper understanding of who actually were the Phoenicians

36:11 And yeah, correlating this again with the idea of Atlantis. And I think that the stories of Plato were misconstrued or completely false and led us away from what Atlantis really was. And Donnelly although I don't necessarily agree with all of his ideas, I think he was pretty spot on when describing that America was the true Atlantis and this is what a lot of these kind of royal Masonic, whatever you want to call them societies were working so diligently to cover up and this is a big part of what the 1800s were. And yeah the Kensington runestone fits a nice little piece there in our DM's we talked about Rock Island and there was a stone found in Iowa that was very similar to the Kensington Runestone So Rock Island does this island that exists in the middle of the water there? I believe it's Missouri could be Mississippi but

37:05 Inside this rock island, they found basically what they called an Egyptian temple. And they found all kinds of stuff rubies diamonds copper gold statues kind of a great synopsis of all these things we mentioned mummies I believe it was a nine foot sarcophagus kind of what we would classify or think of when we see in Egyptian sarcophagus same type of idea and laid with all of these characters but yeah the Kensington runestone really important piece. And that happens very rarely where a person puts their foot down enough or they're not interested enough in the money, who knows exactly the politics involved where the Kensington runestone was just taken and put in some

37:49 warehouse somewhere, like a lot of these other things that we've mentioned. How many of these articles go completely cold? 99% of them. So when something like that survives whether or not it's classified in the time period as a fraud or whatever you just have to do your due diligence and like you mentioned when we first started talking at a point now where I've covered...I don't even know thousands of articles now and done hundreds of episodes and videos It's completely up to the listener to come to their own conclusions, of course. I'm certainly not trying to convince anybody but for me at this point it's just a little piece in this giant puzzle that's correlating a lot of these subjects that we've talked about you know this pre-cataclysm culture. Indeed indeed and for people who don't remember The Kensington Runestone this is

38:37 stone that looks kind of like a small obelisk, I suppose. It's just standing stone and on it was written Hey we were Vikings exploring this area We went out for awhile and we came back and ten of our people were dead And they were killed by natives and this is the marker just to say hey we were here This is what happened our party is a lot smaller than it was yeah, and we have to get out of here now because Yeah And so that's sitting there and maybe it's from the eleven hundreds and it's like well columbus sailed the ocean blue in fourteen ninety two. Well who knows what are great great great great grandparents were doing its like a whole nother world, and so even this suggestion of that is pretty fascinating i wanted to throw this one and totally random

39:29 This one came from Poland, so it doesn't fit in the America Anomalous series. But when I hear underground city my pants get tight and this says in Galicia in Austrian Poland there is a remarkable underground city which has a population of over 100000 men women and children scores of whom have never seen the light of day says The Roxbury Gazette It is known as the city of the salt mines and is situated several hundred feet below the earth's surface. It has its own town hall, theater and assembly room, as well as a beautiful church decorated with statues all being fashioned from pure crystallized rock salt

40:09 It has well-graded streets and spacious squares lighted with electricity. There are numerous instances of this underground city where not a single individual in three or four successive generations has ever seen the sun, or has any idea how people live in the light of day." Wow! 100,000 people, town hall theater, electricity several hundred feet below the surface... You can actually Google this and find pictures of it Of course, it's kind of like a tourist attraction at the time of the photos. And from what I read, it was shut down completely in the 80s but as super impressive place and the premise of your work is that a lot of this stuff wasn't started from scratch but stumbled upon and then adapted. And this might be an example of such a thing. 100%. Yeah there are a lot of rock mines like this that existed in the Americas where they're stumbling... There's no longer a population there

41:05 And since you mentioned the tunnels earlier, right? Because in I believe episode two of our interviews we talked about the deep underground military bases in my Nevada episode and that even in the 1800s they were discussing these mine systems. They were cities and that you could take a train underground to these different cities and each one of these mines mined something different. And they were full of different types of people. They described dwarves... You know it's almost like Lord Of The Rings. They describe not different skin color but literally different types of humans. and that these tunnels went hundreds and hundreds of miles in all directions. And this is a Nevada article, I have a video called Deep Underground Military Bases on how I correlate that all of these bases are old world like this mine system. And I'm sure the war effort took over these mine systems because it becomes very hard to find out what happened to these people they were all removed from the cave system and brought to the surface and then God knows what happened with them from there

42:06 But yeah, it's a really important article. And yeah you can find tons of pictures but there are no people. There are canal systems huge boats they had thousands of horses the horses many of them were blind they could not see because so many generations of these animals have been born underground that they didn't even need to have a sense for eyesight but yeah thats a great representation and America because it was basically such a desolate place I think it's the closest representation of the last remnant being dug out, so to say of this kind of post-apocalyptic scenario. And that we've covered a few but I believe that article he talked about in The Rocky Mountains where the miners led underground by the Native American who tells them that you could ride a canoe from British Columbia all the way to the Gulf of Mexico

42:59 Not to get too far off subject there. That's a great representation because yeah, they took photos and the photos made it to the public and I think that's a good representation of probably hundreds of examples like this that are all around The realm that's the best example The public gets to see but yeah one of many I'm sure yes But yeah this is really incredible to say three or four generations lived down there and never saw light clearly this isn't all thing and then you just find it bring everybody up probably put them in an asylum. And then use a what were just gonna mind that will give it to one of our oligarchs who now owns the biggest salt mine in poland, add that's just how the story progresses and this is something i want to throw into out hate too

43:44 spend time going over something we already went over because there's just so much stuff. But we last recorded in January and you posted this one in December, and I think I would remember this if we talked about it before but can you read us a little bit from the one you titled Living Plasma 30 Foot Plasma Serpent Petrifies Livestock & Dog Amazing Newspaper Report From The 1800s? So yeah essentially a farmer or a man on his property, he doesn't really specify. Describes a very odd atmospheric situation where he experiences a shift in the weather and becomes very chilled and then he notices this moving serpent or moving lightning plasma like creature and describes it to have some form of intelligence as it's not just zipping around as you would think with like lightening or something of that sort

44:40 that it's actually like moving sort of like a serpent and that it comes around his property. And as it moves, it creates this frozen effect with things that come around it. Things get very cold you can kind of see things freezing almost and then it comes in contact with I believe is dog and some of his livestock and one of his horses has frozen in place and his dog has turned to stone. And I can't remember if the horse was turned to stone but yeah I titled the video where i described this as plasma serpents because when you hear people talk about these kind of mco changeover type events, these plasma events. The medusa her gaze turned men to stone and the kind of analogy that goes along with that or the metaphor i believe is indicated in this article and that this is a good example of perhaps

45:36 a living representation or a first-hand account of a miniaturized version of this and that perhaps these kind of I think you've talked about plasma beings, animals, creatures, entities in past episodes. But yeah this guy's first hand account of this plasma serpent or lightning serpent I can't remember his exact verbiage. Plasma wasn't used in this time frame and it's not used in this article But yeah, basically just everything it comes in contact with it turns to stone. Yeah, I think he says electric. But it is so interesting because there's some wild claims being made out there about the cataclysm being perpetuated by plasma that a lot of rock formations and giant trees are petrified and all this kind of stuff. So you're like well where's the evidence or what would we look to? To see something that even looks halfway like that. And here's an isolated incident where this guy experienced one of these plasmas

46:35 And he says that his dog was hit and his dog went from being about 50 pounds to 150 pounds because it's now petrified. Of course, this is what the Electric Universe people think happened. It's what they think a lot of the squiggles on cave walls is as I'm describing the patterns in the sky, the electrical patterns in the sky They say that's where the universal dragon lord came from of these serpent like creatures that can fly and breathe fire and turn people into. Not necessarily ash but like black stone i mean it's right there you know the legends the mythology is very close so i just found that super fascinating but a lot of people when you think about the big picture they struggle with this transition from old world to current thinking that she has too much to keep secret or what so many people trying to become historians these holes in official story would have been sussed out. What you told me there's more to say about this,

47:36 older worldwide culture that some people refer to as Tartaria probably incorrectly, but also the rise of false Rome. And I really liked that term, the rise of false Rome and I've talked to guests before about just how it seems like all these Royal families who are connected through their family trees or extended family trees just kind of rose up across Europe and then the European expansion came. The story is really not that complex it seems like they had a foreknowledge and maybe they were first off the starting line. And then they're just like, Hey we're the Kings and Queens and this is reality for the rest of you but that termed The Rise Of False Rome talk to us a little bit about how you see that coming to be? Yeah short answer I have a series playlist called The Etruscan Mysteries

48:32 And, you know the Etruscans and Etruria are a real big linchpin in the kind of idea of again this false Rome. What was the quote pre-Roman civilization or the civilization that came before what we would call Rome today? The Etruscan history is Amazing. But writers in the 1800s were saying similar kind of these ideas of the Aztecs and the Mayans, like what we did with Cortez and burning all their libraries and stealing all their literature in their history right to rewrite a culture you got to destroy the past or at least their understanding of it. And the Etruscan history is almost a mere image of what they did in Central America

49:20 And let me just step in to say that according to the official story, the Etruscans were an ancient civilization that lived in Italy from around 700-300 BC. They were the first known superpower in the Western Mediterranean and developed some of the earliest cities in Europe alongside the Greeks. You said they might even connect to the Irish and early America civilizations but that's the gist for people who don't know who the Etruscans were Right. And I think of my Buried Empires, Ireland the Great series as kind of like a continuation of my Etruria Etruscan series basically throughout the Etruscan series. I show that in the 1800's they went from being this culture that had no written language or that everything was destroyed so they had no way of really translating things but

50:09 Just like in America, they're excavating all these ancient mounds in Italy and they're finding what is an Etruscan mound. And throughout these mounds they are finding the same iconography that I'm describing in America in its mounds here especially in Alaska they use the word Etruscan. They say these conical mounds found all throughout... They are frozen in Alaska so again hopscotching back to things we've mentioned Alaska was tropical very recently, and was covered in cities and conical mounds that are completely frozen. They found cities that were frozen solid in Alaska with architecture very much what they called Grecian you know a whole mountain washed away and they found a whole Greek this is their verbiage a whole Greek city

51:00 Greek iconography, Greek pottery. So when we talk about Greek pottery and iconography when you really dive into Greek pottery it all goes back to Eturia the Etruscans and the Etruscans have a very prominent connection with Central America and writers were correlating some of the glyphs used in Central America with a lot of the glyphs or the funeral imagery with what was they were finding in Etruria or Etruscan, you know the kind of Etruscan realms are more northern Italy but really it's the whole thing.

51:37 And the foundations of Rome are, the whole base is Etruscan. So yeah throughout that series I correlated...I just finished the last episode of that a few months ago where i talked about Irish Etruria and I cited a bunch of correlations between the Irish and the Etruscans and I've done the same thing with the Etruscans in the quote Aztec or the Mayan population but yeah so false Rome and we mentioned a little bit the Council of Nicaea and what the idea of the old world Christianity when you really look into the old world Christianity, before it was called Christianity. The Church of Iessa which was kind of an Irish basis of that...you find those same...it's sun worship essentially obviously there's far more nuance to it than just saying that its sun worship but those as we mentioned with the Medusa and the kind of lore in the mythology that you find all around the world just labeled slightly differently the same thing can be found there

52:34 I'm starting another series where I go into Connor McDarie. He's an author, his main work was published in the early 1900s but he had written many things through the late 1800s and his correlation between who were the ancient Hebrews, the ancient Egyptians, the Irish... And this is kind of again as we mentioned in DMs connecting the kind of idea of who were the ancient Aryans? And connecting this again with America so yeah false Rome would be this rebranding of Christianity, Catholicism as we know it today. where a lot of the fundamentals were changed and the literalization of things became very apparent as we've talked about with it being more of a symbolic religion, right? We're talking about the sun and the moon and stars and seasons. And all these things are kind of the foundation of what these gods in mythologies are based around where the rebranding that changes things very slightly. And you have kinda this literalization of things in hell and sin

53:36 So on and so forth, obviously there's a lot to that. But yeah the Etruscan history is quite interesting but correlating again this with The Finns right? The Box Saga has a ton of overlay with the Etruscans Yeah I was gonna ask you about that because i heard you referenced the box saga in one video it came up In a previous interview I interviewed Jim Chesner at least twice before he died I found the material really compelling and internally consistent His description of Rome is very accurate for my own research. And he describes that basically the fall of this ancient culture was a slow consolidation of power through hiring of these mercenary groups, essentially that Rome through one way or another had accumulated all this wealth and that through that wealth they were able to hire all of these mercenary groups that necessarily weren't against this kind of old world

54:35 culture that gets mislabeled Tartaria. But Tartaria was many things, many cultures it was one kind of collective group that was united against having their own sovereign representation of culture, but they would come together when need be. You know if there was a huge power waning against them but you know in his work when he talks about the Bach saga He talks about the fall of Helsinki and he says that Rome had never set foot there and that they never could And they would never be able to conquer it But they were able to basically hire this mercenary group which is from my research would be Switzerland today Switzerland has its

55:15 third party untouchable prowess because they made this deal and they basically destroyed not only parts of Ireland, but parts of what we would call Finland. Which Finland was this huge thing that connects with the Phoenicians right? The roots are all very similar it's kind of the last remnant of this pre-cataclysmic culture and that when you start to study the languages and look at the symbology here which we talked about the Etruscans but it exists everywhere and if it's found all over. And America is a huge identifier for this culture because of all the symbologies here, I mentioned the Aryans who are the Aryans right? The Ari, the Irish well it's not just like pale-skinned redheaded people that's not who the Irish or the Aryans were at all again it's kind of this what we would say today are in this niche on YouTube the Tartaria culture

56:13 But yeah, so the false Rome is this rebranding of this pre... I don't want to say precataclysm. But the Etruscans themselves say they migrated to the Mediterranean from the Red Lands. It's like a very similar story as the Egyptians say it—the lands from the West and I've done quite a few episodes on The Hidden Mysteries Of Central America. They tell the same story but they're going in the other direction There was a kind of civil war. They also described the flood myth, they said there was a cataclysm and that they fled their cities and that some of them ended up in the Mediterranean and that some of their queens... queen one queen particular have a whole series called Queen Mu ended up populating parts of Egypt. They found their way into Italy

56:59 that one subject right there, false Rome and correlating it with my research in buried empires and how America plays a really vital role. You know that could be a two hour discussion itself but hopefully I kind of summarized that well enough but yeah you could think of Tartaria as kind of the anyone that was against Rome this kind of secondhand Rome to Rome we know today was called a tartar And I think I've mentioned this on your show before, my actual ancestors that immigrated from Poland to Canada. Their actual immigration papers they're called Tartars. Interesting! I would like to get my hands on my own because i used to call my grandparents Bucha and Dzadza because that's the Polish name for grandma and grandpa. I have polish roots too but I don't know where I'd get my hands on their immigration documents Yeah I was fortunate enough to find them

57:53 through a family member. And yeah, it was crazy the actual immigration paperwork into Canada they were labeled as Tartars and when you dive into that word you find Native American tribes were called Tartars Poles were called Tartars Chinese people were called Tartars Indians or India again India was a much more later rebranding but basically everyone that you would think of that's been recolonized by England especially right? Was labeled that That makes sense because i've had other researchers say to me hey dude I like you a lot but this tartar stuff that you're going down the rabbit hole with is all bullshit and it's not even academic or it's not really credible research and that

58:39 Tartars was just a term to describe the vast areas out in the world that we didn't know much about. Yeah, nomadic cultures were also called tartars. Yeah you could say mongrels or indigenous or whatever but that's not far off from what you're saying it was kind of a derogatory term Yes, derogatory for sure From the people in Rome who are like fuck all these tartars out there Whoever wouldn't toe the line This is where barbarian comes from. It's the same designation as a tartar." That's interesting. It was a slanderous term, they didn't call themselves tartars. It's almost like the people who told me it was all bullshit are basically confirming what you're saying which is like there were a lot of civilizations out there some were quite advanced and they were in opposition to the rise of this false Rome who then took on Christianity and

59:32 It's interesting to think, why does our history highlight some civilizations and not others? There are some civilizations that we know kind of just by name. At least their name is in there and they have a little footnote like around this time they were here. Yeah but what about them you know it doesn't really get into the story it's just Romans Greeks and obviously Egyptians before that and that's an interesting thing too maybe this where I'll end the first hour There's always been this story of Egyptian artifacts found in the Grand Canyon. And so you logically have to try to reverse engineer this and think, okay well I guess the Egyptians were really advanced and I guess the Egyptians came over here and we just don't know about that but that is based on an assumption that all mummies come from Egypt or they were the culture that started the mummies

1:00:24 when you're unraveling this that's just one small example of how. You have this idea in your head this assumption you're making and then you're trying to fit new information into that assumption when the reality is that man cave in kentucky was full of mummies, what u say is that use adjust maybe the mommy culture was either more widespread or maybe it started here in the smithsonian shipped all the money is to egypt and then said hey everybody this is where the money's come from they were this civilization only don't worry about yet you find stories of a farmer digging down finding a damn mommy can get all of them if there's thousand you can clear out man cave are not gonna get all of them so, it just becomes weird when you have to take these things you thought you could depend on.

1:01:13 Like mummies come from Egypt, a very fundamental historical premise and then be like no probably not because this new information suggests that it was vastly different and that there are American mummies all over the damn place. Yeah and they're much larger seven feet minimum anywhere up to nine feet And yeah the numbers don't lie we've talked about this in previous episodes where you know you had state representatives the governor of Colorado again petitioning the federal government to help protect all of his ancient archaeological sites that were being completely destroyed. I did an episode talking about, I want to say Swedish... a Swedish prince was caught stealing mummies and a whole bunch of artifacts in New Mexico maybe it was Arizona but things like this had been happening forever and when they describe the direction that these artifacts are going its Europe

1:02:09 nowhere else. You know, whether or not you follow where the Smithsonian takes things which you never really can there's no paper trail of that But even reporters were talking about or writers or historians, or archaeologists in the time frame were saying that if the Smithsonian gets their hands on it you're never going to be able to look at it or research it or know anything further. I mean just the Kentucky stuff alone is enough to really destroy the whole narrative there's artifacts everywhere there are ruins all across the realm The history for all of these places is incorrect and the history that we're given about Egypt It'd be silly not to think that that's an actual real true history

1:02:45 and that most of the mummies that are coming into European museums, that they say they're getting from Egypt. They were flat out saying in the 1800s that's a lie and they're coming from the Americas and this Egyptian culture or history that were given, even in the museums in the 1800s were actually from America because most of the expositions in America had these types of mummies. And that's when the rebranding began you'd have an exposition that would say look at this mummy we found in Arizona and then a few years later it would be everything was coming from Egypt That's kind of the pivot but yeah like we talked about with Kentucky Cave I mean

1:03:26 they found over 3,000 mummies and all of them were burned. Only the most special ones were kept and they all disappeared so think about that thousands of mummies thousands! And they were all elegantly wrapped generally in one long piece of woven fabric one piece so these entire mummies were wrapped in one piece of fabric and this correlates with the Etruscan stuff because A writer in the 1800s who made one of the biggest breakthroughs in trying to dissect the Etruscan language, he said 100% it's Finnish. It's a Finnish language and the reason he found that was that he found a burial tomb in northern Italy where the body was wrapped and again one continuous piece of cloth and the whole cloth had a story written on it. The entire piece of cloth had letters on the cloth the whole way

1:04:18 And he used that and found that it was completely of the Uyghur finish, which again relates to quote the Tartar language and many other things. But yeah not to go off on that tangent again but the mummy thing is incredible! And yeah they're everywhere they are all across America And even just hollywood and the history channel they show us these depictions of what these older people were like and then that becomes solidified in your mind you can unravel finish mommy what the hell. And here they also hit us with this thing about the morals of it all i call you can't disturb, an ancient burial mound you cant disturb

1:04:56 an indian burial that's completely wrong but yet you can stack the egyptian mummies in the british museum and that's no problem aren't disturbing their dad i mean why is it this totally quarantine thing here in america that you can't dig up all people just interesting because this is probably where all the secrets are and so they have to have some kind of cover story, any kind of disturbing of anything underground would be inappropriate i got to walk through the british museum once and i wish i could do it again with everything i know today. I'm sure the time will come if society doesn't completely collapse

1:05:32 But before we really run out of time here, I want to try to fit in some of the Iowa stuff because i know were not going to come back to it because next time we talk you're gonna have a whole bunch of new work. These are just some things that i found and then i'll just turn over to you maybe give us what you think is one of the biggest things from Iowa but heres An article from you, it says live bats underground. When workmen were drilling the artisanal well at Centerville Iowa they tapped a subterranean passage which seemed to be completely filled with bats not dead or petrified bats but those of the real life kind this added depth nearly 600 feet below the surface 25 or 30 of them were brought out alive and well

1:06:18 They seemed to be of the common gray species, but were much larger. So again, larger animals under the surface and they said these bats were not dead or petrified meaning that the expectation would be that they were dead or ding-ding-ding petrified so I'm helping you out arguing against myself Also, here's another one. A foot of a man at least 12 foot in height was discovered in a Des Moines riverbed and another article talks about petrified remains blood vessels and intestines turned into quartzite which is again you know transmutation and a subterranean standing forest in Iowa 1867

1:07:00 The quote here is, the earth by which they had been submerged had been gently and gradually... This is the one I was mentioning to you. Yeah there you go deposited around them so that's wild and I think I have one more here singular discovery a recent Iowa paper gives the following account of an interesting discovery in Burlington Iowa In excavating a cellar for Governor Grimes' new house, the workmen came upon an arched vault some 10 feet square which on being opened was found to contain eight human skeletons of gigantic proportions.

1:07:38 The wall of the vault was about 14 inches thick, well laid up with cement or indestructible mortar. The vault is about 6 feet from the base of the arch. The skeletons are in a state of preservation and are the largest human remains ever found being a little over 8 feet tall so Damn, I just love when a story starts with like trying to work on some governor's basement and then whoop we opened up some shit. And these are obviously giants and they say in a state of preservation aka probably mummification So again, just wow. This shit is everywhere for sure and Fort Snelling I believe is in maybe it's in Mississippi but... It's on the Mississippi Okay! I think its on the Mississippi Missouri I can't remember exactly but yeah What you say like basically all forts? It has a nonsense creation story and is connected to endless miles of underground

1:08:36 Tunnels so that's a lot of the iowa stuff that I picked out then. I mean you got the rock island material and another pyramid at the bottom of a lake, so it's like rock island from the surface your looking at a lake with a rock in the middle you drain the lake and it's a damn pyramid that is true in california and several other places where they call something pyramid lake And also you got the Davenport calendar, runic inscriptions and tablet calendar stones in Iowa and Rock Island. This is just me kind of cruising through my notes here but

1:09:13 One last one before I turn it over to you. Incredible Discovery, Iowa 1869 Subterranean passages under Rock Island Statues of copper and obelisk of solid brass Most profound expedition ever on this continent Antiquarian relics rarest and most interesting All hope abandoned Any who enter So wild, but what would you say is your summary of Iowa and maybe what you find to be the most fascinating or unique thing from that episode? Yeah. We mentioned this a little bit at the start, but Davenport, Iowa which is the city right off... A bridge goes to Rock Island from Davenport and Rock Island is showing again that cave that they found underground of Rock Island

1:10:02 is showing the exact same thing that we found underground in St. Louis, if you remember that episode where we talked about the cave system and what they called remnants of the Assyrian Empire? They found all kinds of Egyptian iconography statues tunnels that connected st louis with cahokia And they were correlating what I've been saying this whole time that these aren't just burial mounds, that they're actually giant pyramids that go underground and that they're buried. Again the mud flood stuff that when they were excavating Cahokia and another mound not far from there called Monk's Mound which was like the largest mountain in the area at the time These mounds are covered in anywhere from a foot to three feet of earth mud whatever with grass and trees growing on top of them

1:10:51 And yeah, so Iowa Davenport the Davenport stone really really incredible stone shows sun worship a lot of ceremonial effects that are found in all around the globe that have no purpose really being where they are like many of these out-of-place artifacts. But again it's just like hopping from St Louis across the river same thing with Davenport you take the bridge over to Rock Island and below ground you find probably one of my top five articles that I've found. The stuff they find in there, they find giants, they find sarcophagus, they find mummified bodies, it's just like the classification where replace the idea of the Nile being the Mississippi and that the true Egyptian culture existed here or what we've been rebranded and handed as Egyptian culture in Africa a lot of it is stolen and again sent over to Europe and the classifications are completely flipped

1:11:49 But yeah, so I was like every state. I try to have a similar flavor but with just obviously new representation there's petrified forest there's buried buildings one of my favorites from Iowa just like some of my other states was on exploring some of these mounds they found they were actually atop of buried building So same concept oh this is a burial mound which it actually was but as they got deeper they found that it was actually These people were burying their dead on top of their buried city. And as I get into my Wisconsin episode, we're going to actually get into some lore

1:12:28 from some of the quote, aboriginals of the region where they describe these giants and that there's buried cities. That many of these mounds are actually just the tips of these buried cities so even these Native American Aboriginal cultures are saying yeah we buried some of our dead or some of our ancestors on top of these cities because we knew about them. And it was like, their idea of death and what a lot of them use the term was ancestor worship, they were just continuing the memory of their ancestors that laid below them so they knew that these cities are all over and that they were just burying in there dead like in their resting place in their city

1:13:14 And this wasn't like an idea, like I have to stretch and go really far and try to sell people on this idea that we stand on the shoulders of giants in buried cities and realms. To them that's the truth. That's what they thought. Once we get into Wisconsin, we're going to kind of circle back and correlate Atlantis. That's where we're going to get into Pyramid Lake a famous lake in Wisconsin where there's a pyramid resting on the bottom and we'll get into some cultural explanations of the area. We'll get into a really special fort called Atzlan which was a big smelting factory for the Michigan copper it would come out of michigan go there, it gets smelted broken into ignits and then shipped to Europe South America Asia

1:14:02 And that this region was one of the biggest trading hubs in all of the realm. I love it! That's a great preview of Wisconsin, and i'll make sure to try to fit that into the free show. I'll tack it on at the end there but one other thing in my notes like lost over was a reference you had made to spiral staircases they could walk and talk to their ancestors referenced in Iowa right so The spiral staircase was a burial mound where they found seven kings. And this may have been Minnesota, I think it was Iowa... No it was Iowa! They found a mound where they found seven king's all laying in a circle and the people would walk they found this trail on the outside of the burial mound and after talking to some of the locals they said that once or twice a year there was solar significance

1:15:01 they would all circle the mound and they could talk to their ancestors. So again, connecting this with Julian Jaynes, the bicameral mind when you really study ancestor worship, they used to call it the Eastern religion because the Chinese, Tartars, Manchus, they all had this understanding that you could speak to your ancestors this is one of the stories that they had at the mounds there, was that their kings were all buried there. And then there's a really special signification there because the number seven is very sacred—seven kings. This ties in again with the Etruscans and the Seven Hills of Rome. So these seven hills if you look into it, you find that there are literally 100 or more cities that have seven hills people have correlated this with the Pleiades

1:15:52 there may be a star system reference there. But to me, it's just we're dealing with a culture where they all had this kind of unified religion I don't want to say religion because they didn't call it a religion that was just understanding and I think the hearing your ancestors thing goes back again to this cultural age where I think we were kind of still stuck in the middle of, in the 1800s. Right? And we're kicking all the natives off their land and we're shipping and all these children who have no religion, no understanding of who they are, where they are, where they're from. They're all forced into labor camps mining lumber industry, and they're raised by capitalism

1:16:37 And you could look at that from a consciousness metaphor, and it ties quite nicely in with this stuff we were mentioning in this kind of changeover event. That is not just we're dealing with survivors of a cataclysm but also like we're dealing with almost two types of consciousness. There was a really amazing book and I'm spacing the name of it. This gentleman spent a bunch of time with the Aborigines in Australia. He said a very similar thing that they can hear their ancestors voices and that their brains and their chromosome are quite different. I can't remember the exact...I believe they have two extra sets of chromosomes, 48 instead of 46 so they found all kinds of these weird little anomalies and i use that as kind of the closest representation we can have to actually understanding this shift

1:17:32 in consciousness, although it was a slow one. And then you had the kind of invasion of the Europeans where we created what is America? You know, America is this amazing great country but then like once you peel back the layers so to say you kinda find that foundations of it are quite monstrable Yeah, man. Great summary really great stuff I'm all jazzed up this is one of my favorites maybe we just haven't done it in a while and i've just gone through some mediocre shows recently but all these episodes that do they're always kind of in isolation there here's a person's research and work take it sure some of them connect some don't but man the next one i'm about to record because i've already started reading his book people who are

1:18:16 long time listeners are gonna see so many similarities between this and that the seven kings thing the pleiades thing i mean this is part of his bag to sell it's gonna be really fun to have this one two punch a very similar information but man we talked about a lot i really appreciate the work you do i'm really happy for you transitioning to full time researcher are really really hope people do dive into your episodes. You got twenty one so a lot of people out there can start with their home state they're under the live tab

1:18:53 You know, you won't find them under the videos. Go to the live tab on YouTube sometimes people miss that I sometimes do but they're all there start with your own home state very fun if you're a Twitter user go to the thread that's for your homestate which is probably easier for you to go through at your own pace but support analogs work it is amazing anything else to add before I cut you loose what's the next material after Wisconsin? You got it mapped out that far Yeah, so I'm working on part three of Buried Empires Ancient America which is kind of my Ireland the Great. America was called by many quote Europeans Ireland the Great in fact many Nordic cultures called America Ireland or Ireland The Great and i'm going to make more correlations there connecting that again with the Etruscan culture but yeah

1:19:43 Obviously I do most of my shows live for the plain fact, as you understand that. As a person who had a full-time job and a family, I just don't editing's a joke that I don't have time for it. So all my shows are live. I plan on having some actual really well built and edited episodes in the future. And I want to actually collaborate and travel a bit for some of them coming anomalous America shows. So that's a bit of what I have working on Logistics for that obviously is a little bit daunting, but yeah. I'm going to put a lot more time into the channel here and

1:20:20 You know, I hop around a lot. So I appreciate you kind of keeping me on point and look forward to our next talk and there'll be a lot more material to cover them. Yeah man! You are one of the best and this conspiratorial well never really runs dry And when you get out to travel in the East Coast we'll have to pow wow with Dr Longo if you guys will have me Oh yeah, supposedly again this isn't set in stone but we're trying to do like a kind of Atlantis meetup sometime there in Florida and go back over how my material and his material and you know the Gulf of Mexico being the true fertile crescent. And the kinda hub of Atlantis and stuff like that but yeah so if that ever comes to fruition then you'll for sure be one of the first people to know

1:21:04 I appreciate that. Yes, we'll keep up the amazing work! I hope people follow along and i know i appreciate it take care out there Cheers! Cheers indeed boom goes the dynamite yes people i can always depend on analog to bring the heat There really is no shortage of old world material and so much stuff that just doesn't make sense when you look at it critically I admit it's very hard to restore the context of the day, but even the most skeptical people should find something in analogues repertoire to like even if you're not yet convinced of the biological transmutation stuff. If your fundamental paradigm is that everything is primarily consciousness and energy then I suppose anything's possible so that's how I kind of try to look at the biological transmutation thing

1:22:02 But this is crazy, so I had mentioned some syncs with the last show and again i got hit with a big one on this episode. Later on in the day after I recorded this, Facebook served me up a memory and it was the very same article about the Polish underground salt mine city that i had posted on Facebook six years earlier. I see so much of this stuff that I forget sometimes but not only had I seen that before... ...I looked it up myself in the newspaper archives using the term underground city

1:22:39 And I posted that article exactly six years earlier to the day. That is strange! A lot to like in this one though, the Ice Palaces, Asylums, Kensington Runestone, Etruscans... I can't believe more people aren't watching his state-by-state series as it comes out but i'm happy to keep this going There really is so much material As always around here, the second hour is as good or better than the first. In this case I would say better! Once Analog was all revved up he went on a couple of good rants in the Plus show Some stuff that parallels another THC episode coming very soon Probably the next one unless i do something funny with The Order We also talked about some of his best finds in Iowa The Rock Island stuff...The Underground Cave there...The St Louis connection

1:23:35 I don't need to lay it all out for you. Sign up already! $8 a month for five two-hour full length shows and no ads You know the drill And you also get in on the comment section probably the best place to talk about THC, and it's totally private That is also where you can rate THC episodes which of course we've got to take a look at that regarding the last episode with Gary Lachman on Maurice Nickel and right now It's sitting at 4.5, I will take that! I think that's pretty good a solid B. I really wasn't sure because i know that one was pretty narrowly focused but I like listening to Gary talk about pretty much all of his books and he inspired me to buy the Occult Trilogy from Colin Wilson and my god these books are huge

1:24:26 I've said before that David Icke's The Trigger is probably the thickest single book on my shelf, but i'd have to measure it now because The Occult is up there. And it has two sequels of equal length called Beyond the Occult and Mysteries, I think 700 plus pages each. Ugh! I don't know when I'm gonna get to that but at least I have a good endorsement and I can trust that they will be pretty high level As for the meetup calendar, we have the next event being the Burning Man event at The Vomiting Sparrows on August 28th. And then September 7th, we have Truth Seekers at The Poor House Barbecue in Canaan New Hampshire. September 8th Milford Connecticut at The Red Root Farm and September 11th uh oh San Antonio Texas they are meeting up on the anniversary at the Halcyon South Town

1:25:24 I do love San Antonio. The Riverwalk, quite nice. Everybody knows this but still if you haven't been there it's got to be my favorite city in all of Texas! So that's that find the others free and open to anyone just pick a local park or brewery or whatever and throw yourself out there give it two weeks at least so that I can read this a couple times on the air and get people to be aware of something in their area. And then hopefully everybody goes to highersidemeetups.com, and RSVPs if they plan to go get all the extra details for the event etc etc or if you don't hear about one near you go ahead and make one

1:26:05 That's the show really psyched to get this one out there i think analog is a pretty popular guest in the roster and pretty much universally liked by the general audience and im always surprised just how deep this research goes. This stuff is everywhere every single state has some underground chambers or hidden ruins that shouldn't be there it's nuts And when you compare this stuff to other areas of research where we find ourselves just going over the same handful of stories, it's impressive just how much there really is. So I love it and big cheers to Analog for feeling like he could leave his job to work on this stuff full time! Please go and give him some views at least if not a donation but until next time I've done my part

1:26:56 Your move, true history hiders, multi-layer liars and cyclical cataclysm concealers. Your fucking move! He speaks of cities lost in time where giants roam in legends rhyme from melted stone to tunnels vast his tales unfold from first to last He tells of stars once mapped in stone, now covered secrets overgrown. A petrified devil wings so wide, anomalous America where mysteries reside. Extra! Extra baby read all about it

1:27:48 Analog is back on the case Digital archives reveal big lies The truth they can't erase From artificial mountains high To ancient maps beneath the sky He weaves a tapestry of wonder With every post he pulls asunder The Seeker of Old, in every post a story bold. He digs through layers dust and lore to find what's hidden to explore