Saturday, 7 June 2025

7Sees | Technocracy Take Over, Shady Sponsors of Podcasting, & The Web Of Lies

A deep-dive investigation into the hidden financial pipelines and intelligence connections turning independent podcasting into a sophisticated tool for global technocratic social engineering.

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By The Higherside Chats Free Show | 1h 23m listen | 27 chapters
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About this episode

Researcher 7Cs joins the program to expose how the podcasting industry is being consolidated into a technocratic control grid through venture capital and intelligence-linked sponsorship models. The investigation names Peter Thiel, JD Vance, and Howard Lutnick as key architects of the Rumble influencer pipeline, which markets a veneer of free speech while funneling audiences toward products owned by Colson Capital and the former Blackwater network. By mapping the financial ties between independent media and established power structures, 7Cs reveals how the illusion of decentralized information is being systematically dismantled.

Corporate entities like The Wellness Company and Zelenko Labs are linked to Erik Prince and Michael Flynn, while Robert Langer of Moderna is identified as a bridge between pharmaceutical interests and technocratic funding. The analysis extends to digital privacy tools, noting that ExpressVPN is owned by Cape Technologies, an Israeli firm with a history of malware distribution. Furthermore, the backgrounds of prominent podcasters including Theo Von and Brian Callen are scrutinized for familial ties to the Council on Foreign Relations and the Contras. These connections suggest a coordinated effort by groups like the NSO Group and Palantir to manage public perception through controlled opposition and think tank consensus.

Greg Carlwood and 7Cs examine the bizarre reality of talent agencies like MN2S representing both Alex Jones and Bill Clinton, raising questions about intelligence cutouts in the entertainment industry. The conversation takes a human turn when discussing the absurdity of Elon Musk’s Neuralink sales pitch, which encourages citizens to take out loans for brain implants to compete with AI. Between critiques of the recycling conspiracy and the rise of artificial wombs, the episode serves as a sobering audit of the influencers who claim to be independent while avoiding any meaningful criticism of the burgeoning technocracy.


CHAPTER 01 / 27 Discussion

Introduction to 7Cs and the Hidden Influence in Podcasting

Greg Carlwood introduces researcher 7Cs, host of This Week on the Web and Lies & Ties in the Deep Web. The discussion frames podcasting as a decentralized medium that is being compromised by sponsorship money from established power structures. 7Cs is recognized for creating detailed diagrams mapping connections between big tech, advertising funding, and independent media.

7cs· greg carlwood· iconic· big tech· podcasting· advertising revenue

00:12 The planet's puppet masters all most surely have a plan Maybe something there beyond man until we've thoroughly tested Every last close test and we know the less we... Without THC, cause we know they're lying to us Just don't know to what degree Where would be without THC? The higher side chat show Great code and company Strap in for another wild ride through the vast and choppy conspiracy from the Sunshine State. I'm Greg Carlwood, and in a great pie chart of life computer technology and digital engagement are getting an ever-growing slice with little left over for whatever it is people used to do before the algorithmically selected everything full blown AI interactive relationships and total life management took over

01:11 We've always known these systems were psychologically manipulative, dopamine-dripping marketing machines. Yet our warm deep embrace has not loosened in the slightest." Of course good comes with the bad and podcasting has often been called the dark horse a new decentralized information medium often considered a free speech protocol that is notoriously hard to fully compromise But is it fulfilling the promise if it's funded by sponsorship ad money from the very people and companies well established within the big control scheme? Has the full power and potential of podcasting been nerfed by flooding The Zone with well-connected and compromised platforms, disingenuous narrative seeding guests in the vulnerability of advertising revenue models. Well we know The Big Machine would never leave anything to chance because as today's guest 7C says they've been building this system longer than any of us have been alive

02:02 If you're unfamiliar, 7Cs is a great researcher and host of This Week on the Web on Iconic as well as Lies & Ties in the Deep Web pod. He's gotten a lot of social media attention for his highly detailed diagrams laying out exactly who is connected to who and how! He's often focused on big tech, but also within that the ad funding behind so-called free and independent alt media podcasting. I have found his depth of knowledge really impressive and look forward to getting into it. The deep diving dot connector conspiratorial tapestry curator and big tech mega critic 7Cs welcome to The Higher Side

CHAPTER 02 / 27 Discussion

Podcast Advertising Models and the Illusion of Independence

The conversation explores how modern podcasting mirrors legacy media through synchronized scripts and narrative seeding. 7Cs argues that influencers like Tim Pool maintain a veneer of trust while selling products and services connected to nefarious interests. This "two-part" deception involves manipulating both political narratives and financial trust through unvetted sponsorships.

tim pool· sinclair media group· narrative seeding· ad space· legacy media

02:38 Hey, thank you so much for having me and what an introduction man. That's probably the longest string of compliments I've gotten in recent memory. Happy to hear it! I appreciate that. Then i'm done with my job And thanks for doing this. This is going to be great, you cover a lot of information that gets beyond the same old stuff tons of detail. This interview really came about because I saw your web of podcasting sponsors largely about Rogan but these sponsors go all throughout podcasting and i just had to jump on it. I don't really want to be too hard on podcasters who take ad money because it is so hard to make it doing anything else

03:16 But it's the line that bothers me. When you hear the same script read like a personal testimony and how willing a lot of podcasts seem to be to take money from places they haven't really vetted at all, they just take the money and read the lines! And that's a big problem for me." Though the numbers are in and most audiences don't care, but I'm glad you looked into it like you have. To get this rolling what brought this on? What are your thoughts on there being a new media establishment in podcasting that functions pretty much like legacy media despite its presentation? Yeah i think that i'm thinking away it's not only mirroring sort of what we saw with legacy medium i'm sure you remember those clips of like the sinclair media group where all of the local stations. I'll put locally in quotes were they were all repeating like virtually the same thing and they have them all like line up in a grid

04:10 I think we're seeing largely the same thing, but where I see it as more dangerous is that it has courted trust a lot more. Where legacy media was parading around behind this large industry money and establishment influence and things like that, it seems like the veneer of trusts is still very fresh on podcasters and influencers. I can't think for the life of me, can't think of anybody that watches Tim pool but temple gets hundreds and thousands of views every week. And obviously with that comes a lot of time money add space attention and you know taking people's eyes off of actual developments in news and things are happening that are affecting them and

05:02 And I think it's largely problematic in the sense that not only are they selling these narratives, but they're also selling these products and services to people that are connected to very nefarious things based on just everything that i've seen. So it's sort of like a two part in this sense that there still dooping people often worse and also taking advantage of that trust not only from a political aspect but a financial one as well. Yeah, and that's the part that I think a lot of people aren't super clear on – the connection between the products and the narratives because the general consensus about this stuff is that those two things are separate

CHAPTER 03 / 27 Discussion

Rumble Influencer Pipeline and Venture Capital Funding

The "Rumble Influencer Pipeline" is analyzed as a controlled counter-narrative space funded by high-profile figures including Peter Thiel, JD Vance, and Howard Lutnick. While marketed as a free-speech alternative to YouTube, the platform is described as being dominated by specific sponsors like 1775 Coffee and The Wellness Company. The hosts suggest that the platform functions more as a partisan tool than a truly independent garage-built startup.

rumble· peter thiel· jd vance· vivek ramaswamy· ben shapiro· the daily wire

05:49 And I know that I've never liked marketing and advertising. So to me, I watch a lot of podcasts and there's like this wink-wink nudge-nudge hey, I have to read this thing who cares about it? I don't even care if you buy the product! And that is there...that is the approach that some shows take but to say it's totally disconnected. I mean, it's kind of a case by case basis and I know you've used the term the rumble influencer pipeline and I like that because you have YouTube and then there's a lot of things you can't say on YouTube and then all those people jump over to rumble but rumble has some interesting seed money involved and it seems like a kind

06:26 a counter-narrative space that is also highly controlled. So I don't know of anyone who's been kicked off Rumble, but you can definitely promote certain people use the algorithm to get certain shows to the top and when we're talking about people like Ben Shapiro in The Daily Wire that to me is so obvious there's millions of dollars involved in that network but you also talk about a lot of people that are more independent or I would be surprised get roped in And I don't really want to throw anyone under the bus, but talk to us a little bit about just that term. The Rumble Influencer Pipeline what you think about rumble? Why we shouldn't just automatically give our trust to someone because they've been kicked off YouTube because it seems like there's a counter-counterplace where they can see certain narratives

07:14 yeah absolutely so it shouldn't be any secret that rumble is being funded by people like a like peter teal and howard let me help get them through your ipo you have people like jd vance for back from swami i believe in i could be mistaken here but bill actman has also donated. So it's not like you know rumble was just some, something made in someone's garage, which that trope is also sort of an op-in and of itself. But what are you going to do? A lot of people I think see Rumble as this independent alternative platform from YouTube And really it just seems like we have Democrat versus Republican with video platforms these days

08:04 And i would say that with rumble i mean it's obvious like a lot of the people from night media and google space in left space have sort of taken over dominance of youtube but over on rumble i would press people to try to find somebody on the homepage or the front page that isn't sponsored by like 1775 coffee, or The Wellness Company, or Zalinko Labs, or something to that degree. Fair enough yeah those are some names I had here in my notes and just a quote your post on this influencers are being paid to lie to you buy CD companies they pawn off as sponsors in this investigation we explore few of them who is running the company's and people who have taken money from them

CHAPTER 04 / 27 Discussion

Colson Capital, Blackwater Connections, and The Wellness Company

7Cs details the corporate structure of Colson Capital, which manages brands like The Wellness Company, Zelenko Labs, and 1775 Coffee. The investigation links these entities to Erik Prince and the former Blackwater network through figures like David Lopez. Further connections are drawn to Michael Flynn, Apollo Global Management, and Israeli spyware firms like the NSO Group.

colson capital· the wellness company· blackwater· erik prince· michael flynn· david lopez

08:51 And there it is. So you mentioned the wellness company, 1775 Coffee. What are some of the companies that give you pause? What are the biggest red flags in the podcasting space that any podcast listener would probably recognize because they're the same couple dozen companies across all the shows Yeah, so I would say the biggest one that is a red flag to me is going to be the wellness company or anything that falls under the Colson Capital umbrella. You can actually go to colsoncapital.com and see their list of brands they have that they have Zelenko Labs they have the wellness or they have 1775 coffee unjected that

09:33 dating site or whatever, BeLoud. There's so many and they're constantly adding more and more. They even have this company called NanoBioSim which is sort of like a nanotech company that employs this lady from DARPA some scary stuff man! And the reason why the wellness company in the Colson Capital thing really sort of throws off red flags is there's this lady named Polly St George on Twitter who Uh, amazing. Yeah. Yeah. We've talked a time or two I tried to get her to come here and she's yet to take me up on the offer but it's out there now. I hear you man yeah she's uh she's great she's uh she sort of laid a lot of the groundwork to help me understand a lot of these things and then once i sort of knew what to look for i was like okay let's just go see everybody that is associated with these brands

10:27 What she found in her digging and what I've sort of been able to reinforce through my vetting and personal investigation was that Colson Capital is basically tied to Blackwater or what was Blackwater through this guy named David Lopez. So, David Lopez sat on the board of this thing called International Health Brains that rolled up to Colson Capital And he was basically a special projects manager for blackwater so everything that rolled through him was somewhat sort of getting shared with with air prints and his whole network obviously you know air prince help train people like james o'keefe

11:13 and he's wrapped up with the NSO group through his like unplugged phone company. There was the Nisour Square Massacre, but there is a lot of associations that are sort of going on that sort of tied to Prince and Michael Flynn that come through these networks. And that's where you start to get Apollo Global Management which is like the Leon Black Rowan, Josh Harris sort of realignment of Drexel Burnham Lambert. Flynn is wrapped up with like OSY Technologies which is another offshoot of the NSO group so you're just getting like Israel spyware in that and then everyone that's sorta promoting that is helping to funnel money into that pipeline basically

CHAPTER 05 / 27 Discussion

Robert Langer, Moderna, and Technocratic Funding

The discussion highlights Robert Langer, a co-founder of Moderna, and his ties to Peter Thiel, David Koch, and Jeffrey Epstein. 7Cs posits that mundane consumer products like coffee are being used to fund a transition toward technocracy. Listeners are encouraged to audit the ownership and donation histories of their favorite influencers' sponsors.

robert langer· moderna· peter thiel· jeffrey epstein· technocracy

12:05 Yeah, Colson Capital. That is the company that I've been looking deeper into because of all this Robert Langer you mentioned co-founder of Moderna funded by Peter Thiel worked with David Koch and has done business with Fiverr or Pfizer Johnson & Johnson Eli Lilly went to MIT defended the donations by Epstein then you got the third in command at Microsoft yeah another guy from JP Morgan and making front companies is a game as old as time or at least as old as the CIA. And, yeah- A lot of people just probably don't expect that something as mundane as a coffee company is gonna be connected to this but they are funding the podcasters obviously they're in the green or they wouldn't do it anymore The podcast listeners are using that trust buying these products and the money is being funneled into technocracy! The very thing that is probably the scariest thing

13:01 that we have to deal with in the next decade or two. Yeah, yeah it's uh it's tough too because the you know you see it sometimes like I think that soda gate thing was sort of a little peek into it where he had all those people that were tweeting the same things at the same time but I would encourage people to go go look for their favorite podcaster or influencer, go see if they're with the wellness company. Or just see who their sponsors are and go look at a list of their sponsors, see the companies that own those sponsors where they've donated and things like that because it's a well-oiled machine in the past 10 years that they've been setting this up it seems to be running pretty smoothly. Yeah I would say so one of the ones that always bothered me

CHAPTER 06 / 27 Discussion

Pharmaceutical Sponsorships and Data Privacy Concerns

The risks of pharmaceutical sponsorships in podcasting are discussed, specifically regarding "dick pills" and mental health services like BetterHelp. BetterHelp, acquired by Teladoc in 2015, is noted for providing surveillance data to the CDC during 2020 contact tracing efforts. The segment also touches on the Talpiot program and the risks of foreign-managed critical infrastructure.

betterhelp· teladoc· cdc· ssris· talpiot program· israel

13:51 bothers me that these podcasters would sell dick pills and hair pills, just any pharmaceutical that you don't know how it's going to affect other parts of the body down the line. Are you giving your listeners cancer? You don't know and what's the price for giving out that trust, you know it seems pretty low. But better help is also kind of in that realm because I've talked to guests about just the therapy pipeline and how it seems pretty harmless but you start talking to a therapist they start recommending this pill or that pill and now you're on SSRIs And your whole life can unravel that way It gets really

14:31 crazy. I don't think it's appropriate to just willy-nilly be like, oh just you know It's almost like you know breadcrumbs to really wrecking someone's brain chemistry it's not helpful and as you say better help was eventually acquired by Teladoc in 2015 and they contributed to contact tracing efforts in 2020 provided near real time surveillance data directly to the CDC so Careful who you're giving your data to. Yeah, and with better help too I believe Alon Matis was running it and he operates out of Israel. He's a millionaire Israeli

15:16 Yeah, gotta worry about the millionaires and Israeli tech in general seems to be super aggressive and super advanced at compromising many different systems. I interviewed someone about the Talpiot program a couple years ago where they gave the US a bunch of infrastructure technology that now runs some water systems a At a basic level, every country should kind of take care of its critical infrastructure itself. I mean we're obviously way far away from that with all the stuff that gets manufactured in China and then sent over here but on a base level, come on! We really should let that be kind of a fundamental thing that is a priority is maintaining our own infrastructure but not these days

CHAPTER 07 / 27 Discussion

ExpressVPN, Cape Technologies, and Malware History

ExpressVPN is identified as being owned by Cape Technologies, an Israeli-based firm formerly known as Crossrider that previously distributed malware and adware. The hosts discuss the irony of privacy tools being owned by companies with histories of infecting computers. This serves as an example of how independent media is compromised by its reliance on specific advertising models.

expressvpn· cape technologies· crossrider· malware· cyberghost

16:18 Yeah, I mean just looking at the way Israel treats Palestine's infrastructure. That very well could be us in the near future. Troubled times we're in! So ExpressVPN is another one you hear it on so many YouTube shows and you have said that its owned by Cape Technologies another Israeli based tech company but They used to run malware and adware under the name Crossrider, and also own CyberGhost, Private Internet Access, and ZenMate. I don't know much about those other companies but Cape Technologies used to run malware and adware? Yeah. Huh. Essentially what they would do is uh they would infect people's computers and then use that as like

17:06 ways to advertise or you know use like ransomware or something like that, to try and get people to say. You know, you need a VPN your going with all these insecure connections or you need to buy our anti-virus software whatever that looks like Yeah they said McAfee used to do something like that I don't want to believe it because i kind of liked John McAfee a little bit he had some weird habits in the bedroom here but nothing super untoward just Gross. But yeah, it's like another story as old as time like you sell the solution to a problem and if the problem isn't there, you hype up the problem so people need your solution. So it seems like that's another one of those things and ExpressVPN is ubiquitous across the whole landscape and how many people know that? And I know a lot of podcasters are just

17:59 ignorant of this stuff. They're not really looking into it, they're not necessarily guilty by association but its just the way that this whole alternative independent media has latched onto the ad model thats whats compromised, thats your income where to hurt you, how to hurt you. And you know, you gotta be a little more guarded about this stuff I've spent a lot of money and mental anguish trying to stay where I am in this space without any outside influence It's hard to do but it's because I didn't want to make a mistake like this Yeah

18:35 I want to be able to have these conversations you know how many shows can you not go on absolutely yeah it's um it's tough because you know like you said it sort of. It creates this like infrastructure where institutionally you have to be funded otherwise just get drowned out But you wanna stick to your principles and you have all these people that don't do the due diligence. I would expect at the very least like a politically centered podcasters would maybe investigate these things and make sure that they're on the up-and-up but it seems like just with our politicians, that there is like just give me the money i dont care where its coming from tell me what i have to say and we'll call it their

CHAPTER 08 / 27 Discussion

Comedy Podcasters and Intelligence Community Lineage

The backgrounds of prominent comedy podcasters are scrutinized, noting that many have fathers with high-level banking or intelligence connections. Specific mentions include Theo Von’s father’s work with the Contras and Brian Callen’s father’s membership in the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The segment compares this phenomenon to Dave McGowan’s research on the 1960s Laurel Canyon music scene.

theo von· brian callen· bert kreischer· tom segura· laurel canyon

19:21 Yeah, and so when we're talking about the political podcasts these things are a little more obvious but we could talk about comedy podcasters too. So this is where my professional and personal interests overlap quite a bit but you start going down the list of the biggest comedy podcasters and there's just something interesting about their Parents basically their father's job and again we don't get to pick the skin were born into we don't get to pick the family were born into it can be a scarlet letter on you forever that your dad was an international banker because you have to be able to make your own life and.

19:59 You know, not always are these things connected but they sometimes are. And Theo von's father was a Polish aristocrat Ronald Von Kurtanowski Sr and reportedly chairman of the Un-American Activities Committee for the U.S Senate and editor of a Latin American report for The New Orleans newspaper and he propagandized on behalf of the Contras in the 80s Theo also had a half-brother who worked for Texas Instruments and died in a shooting incident right after apparently selling a lot of stock and getting accused of running a charity called the Tipitinas Foundation as a Ponzi scheme. So that's interesting, but in this case his dad owned a newspaper to influence narratives

20:45 And now he's interviewing the president. I mean, it's kind of interesting Bert Kreischer father owns a law firm Tom Segura his father is a banking executive Brendan Schwab's father is apparently an early tech CEO Brian Callen A lot of people give him shit because his father is an international banker and member of the CFR and he's always talking politics He's always shitting on conspiracy. He does a show with Sam Tripoli where Sam throws out the crazy Conspiracy and Brian Callan explains why it's wrong. It's like, that's what a CFR member would do! So again you know how guilty are the sons for the sins of the father? I don't know but when Dave McGowan writes a book about how all these 60s counterculture musical artists were the sons and daughters of military intelligence we look at that and we say huh very curious and i think we should probably look at some of this the same way

CHAPTER 09 / 27 Discussion

Jordan Peterson, ARC Network, and Think Tank Consensus

7Cs examines Jordan Peterson’s Alliance for Responsible Citizenship (ARC) and the University of Austin as "alt-right" counterparts to the World Economic Forum. These networks involve figures like Mike Johnson, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Niall Ferguson. The goal of these organizations is described as manufacturing consensus through a web of think tanks like the Manhattan Institute and the Hudson Institute.

jordan peterson· arc network· university of austin· mike johnson· manhattan institute

21:41 Yeah, it's Laurel Canyon 2.0. There you go! You know, you know... Absolutely So another thing you've picked apart is Jordan Peterson's Alliance for Responsible Citizenship the ARC network I don't know much about this. I stopped listening to him a while ago but talk about this Yeah so i was basically digging into people like michael schellenberger and trevor fits given like PR guys for the left for the longest time. And I stumbled on something called the university of austin which is sort of where

22:19 There's a lot of overlap with ARC is what he calls it. The way that it was explained to me when I was introduced to me, this is like the alt-right little brother of the WEF so they're not nearly as influential as the WEF, not nearly as establishment but that they are pushing both biotech and Christian nationalism behind this conservative veneer And it's got a few influential people in it. Mike Johnson is a part of the speaker, we have Vivek Ramaswamy, Niall Ferguson

23:01 You have Arthur C. Brooks, who was part of Opus Dei and comes from the Rand Corporation he studied at the Rand School of Public Policy. Yeah you have Australian Prime Minister or former prime minister John Howard who was meeting with George W Bush in the week of 9-11 and he's part of a bunch of parties and stuff is part of this thing called The Coalition with Tony Abbott There's so many people that are involved. Joe Lonsdale is a part of that University of Austin, you have people like Barry Weiss that stem off of her, Pete Boghossian who's wrapped up with people like Michael Schellenberger and Richard Dawkins oddly enough is on here and Larry Summers from the Epstein Network. The list just ends up going on and on

23:57 But essentially what they're doing is they're setting up like networks of think tanks and I'm sure you've heard of the Manhattan Institute. There's like the Hudson Institute and Breakthrough Institute, all these different institutes that are Basically manufacturing consensus. So they're saying that people are worried about this specific thing or people want this specific thing, or there's this issue that's going on. They'll have people post about it or tweet about it and get the conversation going and then that in turn convinces the public that politicians need to do something about this problem. That's what all these people are responsible for is going and setting up their own networks to funnel

CHAPTER 10 / 27 Discussion

Technocracy and the Manipulation of Political Biases

The discussion focuses on how influencers use "level two" narratives to build trust before steering audiences toward a broader technocratic agenda. 7Cs cites Theo Von’s public stance on Palestine while privately meeting with Jared Kushner as an example of this strategy. The primary common thread among these influencers is identified as the avoidance of criticizing technocracy itself.

tucker carlson· jared kushner· technocracy· immigration· israel

24:41 ideas and public opinion into the same funnel and get these objectives done. Right on, so to stick the landing for people listening who are probably listening to all these other shows that we're talking about, they might think well I listen to Flagrant or I listened at Theovon and I don't get the sense that there's any particular narrative being shoved in my face compared to The Daily Wire or something like that more overtly political What would you say to that? What are the ideas that they're trying to seed or the subject matter maybe that they're just avoiding. Maybe that's half of the game is just don't talk about technocracy

25:20 Yeah, yeah. It seems that technocracy is like the biggest common thread I think that somewhere probably a couple of years ago they realized that they were far enough along on the technocratic agenda That they decided that the Israel Palestine thing would be okay to talk about and now you're slowly starting to see people like Tucker Carlson is pretending in my opinion to come out against Israel. You know, you have Theo Vaughn for example who is sitting there and vilifying Israel and crying over Palestinians and then two days ago was at lunch with Jared Kushner in Florida speaking in Qatar for Trump and it just seems like they will

26:11 speak to certain people's biases kind of tell them exactly what they want to hear on one thing and then if not directly support or associate with the other side of whatever they're claiming to support. They will Sort of split people so they'll say you know I'm with you guys on being against Israel But we should definitely agree with these people on this other thing So, you know for instance Theo may agree with Trump on like immigration or the prison reform Or you know warfare somewhere else and then he's courting essentially the anti-israel

26:49 people over to support these other things. So they'll have varying degrees of opinions on things and get people with one thing and endear them in court that trust, and then try to use that to manufacture them into the other pieces of the agenda Interesting, yeah. That does jive with how the game seems to have always been played you'll have different tiers of importance on certain narratives and issues and if you're not getting traction and people are getting skeptical and aren't trusting a certain source well you might throw them the level two or level three narrative to build that trust to be like oh well the government and media are lying about this and I'm now on your page because there's a higher priority that is

CHAPTER 11 / 27 Discussion

Alex Jones, Controlled Opposition, and the Sandy Hook Lawsuit

7Cs and Greg Carlwood evaluate Alex Jones as a potential "revelation of the method" figure or a "discarded Rockefeller asset." They discuss his transition from a fringe conspiracy theorist to a humanized media personality through appearances on Joe Rogan's show. The Sandy Hook lawsuit is framed as a potential "scam" or theater designed to discourage independent investigations into mass casualty events.

alex jones· roger stone· sandy hook· bill cooper· revelation of the method

27:32 is the real name of the game. So I'm with you there and you also did a sub stack on Alex Jones, I believe. I saw you promoting that it was gonna happen. I didn't really come across it but you mentioned he has a shady web of connections to people like Jerome Corsi and Roger Stone. Roger Stone, I kind of know because I think he's just been on the show but Roger Stone has a wild background and a big ass Nixon tattoo Oh yeah. Just a real wild man, but you know not an innocent person at all and not someone to be taken lightly but what are your thoughts on Alex Jones? Because before the podcasting game he was really the only game in town and- Yeah He also had this like crazy giant mansion and so many things about

28:17 him I am skeptical of, but yet I can't help but also have a little bit of a soft spot for him because I did kind of cut my teeth on Alex Jones a little bit. When I was searching for something, I was glad he was there Yeah yeah i mean i remember the late two thousands early twenty tens when you know i was still younger and seeing things like alex jones go to bohemian grove and alex jones expose this talk about hillary clinton cabal and i was like yes finally there's a guy and then just slowly as i've gotten older and done some more research in stuff like i think of

28:56 like aldous huxley and how he did brave new world and then julian huxley was you know part of the eugenicists and how there seems to be like they always need a guy that's the revelation of the method guy. And i want to think that alec jones is not that guy but as time has sort of gone on especially post like the sandy hook lawsuit, things like that it just seems like just 180 somewhere and i don't know if that's like okay we're finally far enough along with the technocracy thing in israel where they can say okay it's time to drop the charade or, if you know its sort of like a humiliation ritual for him or what what it may be but I mean it so obvious now he's clearly on this side of government and institutions

29:48 I've been doing some digging into some of his earlier sponsors. I know that he's worked a little bit with people from the wellness company and i believe he even had Vladimir Zelenko from Zelenko Labs on Um, you know, he was pushing the ivermectin thing and the hydrococ, hydroclock, hydroxychloroquine thing. Uh, and everything like that during COVID and it I don't know, just, it seems like he was if he wasn't always like bill Cooper said he was then he definitely got captured somewhere along the way. And I think someone ended up paying off his lawsuit or something. They're basically just telling him what to do at this point.

CHAPTER 13 / 27 Discussion

Technocracy Movement History and Global Intelligence Coordination

The conversation shifts to the historical roots of technocracy, noting that Elon Musk’s grandfather was part of the original movement a century ago. 7Cs claims that major intelligence groups, including the CIA, Mossad, and Unit 8200, are coordinating to create a digital dystopia. This system is allegedly being pushed through every major global government and international organization.

elon musk· peter thiel· jeffrey epstein· mossad· chabad lubavitch

34:25 you know, they want to do the investigations and check everything and stuff. But then when we want to do our own with a different event then it's not okay? It just doesn't make sense." Yeah I agree! And maybe we'll come back to some of this podcasting sponsor stuff and ad agencies and talent agencies but while were in the first hour still let's fold in some bigger picture stuff We've talked about Elon's dad before but I wanted to read a little from your technocracy thread. What is technocracy? Is it something, it is something that most mainstream media and alternative influencers aren't talking about. Doge is coming in to gut the government to install AI

35:05 Elon's grandfather was part of the original technocracy movement almost 100 years ago. Peter Thiel is a major driver behind all this and has been for over 20 years. Epstein was a staunch transhumanist and eugenicists. Cryptocurrency will play a major role in controlling everyone globally, and will eventually be tied to energy credits. Carbon taxes are precursors to this concept And you talk about just all the influences, you say Israel is rooted in Jewish supremacy is rooted in Kabbalah and pushed through the Chabad Lubavitch sect. Again no one can control what skin they're born into or family they're born into a religion but if there

35:51 An elite within a certain sect that has agendas they don't advertise, that should be known. If we're in competition and we don't know it well we should know it you know? So yeah that's kind of how I approach that but you say they're in the ear of every major government Trump Zelensky Putin every politician The CIA, FBI, DOJ, DHS, HHS, NIH, WHO UN, NATO and BRICS are all working in coordination with these other intelligence groups like Mossad and Unit 8200 to create this digital dystopia. And the people applauding MAGA are not ready for the level of tyranny that will come with it. And you go on to talk about their end game model help flesh out that for people what is the end game model here?

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Big Tech Nuclear Energy Acquisition and Data Centers

Major tech companies are reportedly buying up nuclear energy infrastructure to power massive AI data centers. Bill Gates’ purchase of Three Mile Island and similar moves by Google and Amazon are cited as evidence of a massive projected increase in power consumption. 7Cs notes a correlation between the location of these data centers and the distribution of H-1B visas.

bill gates· google· amazon· three mile island· nuclear energy

36:38 Yeah so i think that there is sort of a in goal that they're pacing towards where they're working on revitalizing like the nuclear infrastructure i'm so we're slowly starting to see like big tech is buying up nuclear energy they're using these two sort of power their data centers you have like bill gates just bought three mile island last year which is insane as a headline in and of itself yeah google is doing the same thing amazon is buying nuclear reactors in places like hanford

37:14 Mark Zuckerberg has talked about getting nuclear energy, Elon's expressed interest in nuclear power. And they're going to use these to run the AI data centers when the H1B visa thing happened last year during Christmas, the Vivec and Elon fiasco that ended up getting Vivec removed I ended up doing some digging and I found that there is a plethora of data centers all throughout the US. There's over like five, six 700 maybe now in Virginia alone and there's correlation with H1B visas and how many are getting dispersed per state and it sort of lines up with the data center stuff but that's sort of what got my eyes on it you can lookup datacentermap.com

38:03 and see like bubbles of where all the data centers are. Essentially, they're projecting that they're going to have a 5x power consumption increase in the next five years from what we thought it was going to be five years ago and 90 percent of it roughly is going to be used to power these data centers so like big tech as though they didn't have enough They're installing all these data centers, they're launching satellites into space. Elon has already launched over a thousand Starlink satellites this year and they are talking about creating the golden dome and things like that

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The Global Human Computing Grid and Energy Certificates

The endgame of the technocratic model is described as a "zero leak control system" involving Starlink satellites, Palantir surveillance, and Neuralink brain chips. This system would replace traditional currency with energy certificates or carbon-based cryptocurrency. The goal is a fully automated society where human actions are managed through a "pre-crime" digital interface.

starlink· palantir· neuralink· cryptocurrency· carbon tax

38:46 They're going to have satellites that are spying on you constantly, they're interacting with cell network towers and five eventually 6G to create this layered connectivity. Basically connect all of the data centers up to these were starting to see this a lot with like Project Stargate and the infrastructure spending that's going on there But then you also have like the technological military part of it so this is sort of the arm where you have like optimus robots and palantir drones in, the constant surveilling from the palantir AI and

39:26 Palantir AI getting injected into government so they're like constantly watching everything and updating everything eventually humans are gonna be phased out of the military in there just going to be using robotics largely i believe the denver police had a colorado's first. Police robot dog released in denver this year there's a video about that. And then you have like the global human computing grid so chips and everyone's brains or the wb bn internet of bodies being always connected to those satellites that sort of white elon is doing the star link and activating everything saying he's connecting people and bringing people to internet really it's just so you don't have a place to hide

40:12 i am obviously like a quantum computing and huge compute centers in stuff i think you just said that he's gonna be building the world's largest super computer. I think yesterday or the day before. And then all of this is basically going to be run by an energy certificate system that is powered by a cryptocurrency, whether that's gonna be like stable coins or Bitcoin. I think it's really just gonna be a mix of everything and instead of using like the US dollar we're gonna be using something based on the amount of carbon we produce or the amount of energy that we consume with all our transactions. We have people like Larry Fink saying, he wants to tokenize everything start with stocks and bonds. We have digital ID, carbon taxes. You know, we're doing the Bitcoin strategic reserve or the crypto strategic reserve and when you sort of put all these things like on a map

41:11 It creates this zero leak control system where everything's handled digitally, it's automated. All of your actions are looked at through this pre-crime view. There is no way to disconnect from the Internet. It's embedded directly in your head and it's all being powered by infinite energy sources. So it's a lot but that's what I see us going towards. Yeah, and sometimes with these sorts of claims people say oh come on they roll their eyes and it seems like it's a tough sell to be putting a chip in people's brains. I agree It's a tough sell but you already have the one in your pocket and they'll probably let that be plan B for the people who won't do it the other way well it's already in your pocket good luck going somewhere without your phone but yeah I have some notes here about the data centers because

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H-1B Visas and the Automation of Data Centers

7Cs presents data showing that H-1B visas are concentrated in states with the highest density of data centers, such as California and Texas. He argues that these workers are not being imported to take traditional jobs, but to maintain the AI systems that will eventually automate those jobs. The median income for these visa holders is noted to be significantly higher than the national average.

h-1b visas· vivek ramaswamy· automation· california· texas

45:27 Yeah, well he's also coming from like an engineering perspective. It's like just because you can think faster doesn't mean you can do more... Like you're still physically limited to what you can get done with your body. Yes! Good point and then I wanted also just hit that H1B-Visethane again You say, Elon and co aren't importing immigrants to take your job. They're hoping to automate your job and have an employee they can pay pennies to clear error codes and write scripts Google Amazon Microsoft BlackRock Fidelity Sequoia and more are all backing this completely Elon will step into a government position And get an unforetold amount of power I did some digging on all the data centers in the US and found that there's

46:14 a pattern with the H-1B visas being distributed last year. You mentioned this pattern, but I just wanted to hit it again because you do overlay the map of where the data centers are with where the most H-1B visas are and three highest offending states being California, 289 data centers over 100,000 visas. Texas 296 data centers 77,000 visas of this type New York 132 data centers and 43,000 visas of this type so

46:52 Yeah, this is just so eye-opening to me because a lot of people are worried about AI taking the jobs and all these immigrants taking the jobs whatever you know everybody has their boogeyman they're afraid of but this is how they combine. This is how the lock and key gets put in it's like yeah you know, it's a stereotype of Indians run the data centers. But like this is Vivek is Indian and he's promoting like yeah we need to get these people over here and it's like because the jobs are going to be replaced by AI and you just need a guy at the data center to clear those error codes as you say. It really is uh-a lot of clarity has added in knowing about this information

47:34 I'm adding it to the pile when it comes to the technology concerns in general these details just make a lot more clear absolutely yeah and when you are when you dig down into it too like that notice that there was sort of this rhetoric that like h1 b visa work is cheap. And then it's saving us money, yada, yada. I went and looked in like the median income for a lot of these are like in California alone though one of the highest offenders as you had pointed out there their median income was $154,000 a year And Texas was $114,000 a year last year. And that's just the median income so there are people making even more than that and that is all coming from our taxpayer dollars and we're basically building the digital prison and it is getting outsourced to people who don't even live here. Yeah! What are your thoughts about

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Population Control Narratives and Artificial Wombs

The hosts discuss conflicting narratives regarding overpopulation versus underpopulation. 7Cs suggests that Elon Musk’s alarmism about population decline is a "revelation of the method" while the elite actually pursue population reduction through environmental toxins. They also discuss the potential for artificial wombs and the state-controlled regulation of human reproduction in the future.

elon musk· ivf· artificial wombs· fda· transhumanism

48:33 the population in general. Obviously, the elite are always saying we're overpopulated but Elon says we're under populated and people are worried about a death spiral of not having enough people to replace the boomers and I don't know it's weird because in The Genius Bill there or In The Big Beautiful Bill I should say that they have the little thing about $1,000 investment for kids born, you know that'll compound till they're 18. And some of those ideas are really interesting it's kind of a flip on social security it's like a right wing version of it but it shows people the value of compound interest from the day your born that is interesting I like the idea of setting people up for success like that when their parents might not be able to but its also an incentive to have more children Trumps always like we gotta have more kids

49:24 And sometimes it's framed as just a race thing. Like they're trying to make sure there's more white people here, I'm trying not to step in it but these are just the ideas that people talk about and on one hand if you're gonna do all this AI stuff and there's not going to be jobs for people that is a concern but do we need more people? It just seems like they're giving us two different stories about population and either growth or reduction what do you think about that Yeah i think that they are very enamored with the idea of drastically reducing the population and think that's why we got things like vaccines i think thats when a place in the food air water. I think thats why we have the emf radiation i think thats what big pharma is this

50:12 structure the way that it is and i think you on his one of those i think he's doing sort of a red revelation of the method in the fact that. He does actually secretly want to population to decline but he's raising this alarm like hey look the population is going it's very much like how the wf says hey we're gonna be doing these things in ten years and then ten years later when the things happen, and they're like what we told you what we were doing sort of like manufacturing that consent And I think that especially with like the technocratic stuff there's a huge overlap of transhumanist ideologies as well.

50:50 I don't think that you on being closely associated with things like IVF are. Like a coincidence i think that you know you can go look at like the FDA and CDC in NC that they're actually contemplating releasing things like artificial wounds and the talks of growing people in tanks basically. I think what we'll see, and this is a far offshoot maybe 50-100 years, I might be dead but I think eventually being able to give birth and have children is going to be like a right or privilege that they're going to have and it's going to incentivize

51:38 You know people like they've already done it now where they and they try to incentivize People with very like temporary band-aid things of like hey, you don't have kids. You can live a long full life do whatever you want all the time but I do secretly think that they do want the population reduced because That just means there's more, you know It's more easily controlled if there's less of us so right and just to say well we want more families out there. We want more couples having babies." That's just red meat for a lot of right-wing conservative religious folks in the Midwest are like, yeah you know that we're doing God's work here

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Microplastics, Infertility, and the Recycling Conspiracy

The ubiquity of microplastics is linked to rising infertility rates and general health decline. Greg Carlwood discusses the "recycling conspiracy," citing documents that show the plastic industry knew recycling was largely ineffective but promoted it to pacify the public. The segment highlights the difficulty of "de-plastifying" modern life, especially for families with young children.

microplastics· glyphosate· recycling· infertility· plastic industry

52:14 But yeah, it's going to get really crazy. And I do agree with you that it seems like they're trying to make the natural ability to have kids... They're trying to eradicate that through terrible diets and all this stuff. You see the microplastic stories, they're shrinking the taints, you know? It's hurting people's fertility rates and it's not an accident! You know, I actually thought it was really interesting to hear about this. Like it's probably worth a whole show on the recycling conspiracy but there was emails that got leaked from the people...I guess they might not have been emails they might have been just letters at the time but when we were sold Plastic Everything they also came out with the campaign of recycling and

52:57 And there's documents now that show that they knew that recycling was kind of a lie. They knew that it couldn't be as effective and efficient, as it was claimed to be, that itself would pollute, that you're not really gonna be able to separate the plastic containers from all the food particles and stuff that is in them. And they just were like, who cares? Just tell people like we know you're concerned about all the trash but don't worry just recycle reduce reuse recycle put it in a Berenstain Bears book these people are dumb they won't figure it out and now here we are with uh big plastic floating in the ocean and it's ubiquitous everywhere. I just read that we have about a plastic spoons worth of plastic in our brain, that can't be good. Huge problem like when you take into account the crimes that people have committed on a mass scale, the plastic people should not be overlooked they really should be pretty high on that totem pole

53:58 Yeah I agree, I think that the plastic industry especially the fact that like you know it's considered like forever. and you said it, they've seen how it leads to infertility issues. It's leading the health issues. I mean there are newborns or babies in wombs that already have microplastics on their body and who are we supposed hold responsible for this because everywhere I look everything is in plastic from the food to every product that I buy and its all coming from the oil industry but

54:36 It's also a two part thing where it's like that they're also just using the climate hoax to fight the plastic industry and that's basically like the only opposition so its like. to warring psyops against each other and we're supposed to pick one side but both of them are bad for us. Yeah, I know that game and it's tough with two young kids because you go to a restaurant and of course the adults are served in glass and you can't give glass to a three-year old so they bring out the plastic cup and the plastic straw And it's like, damn I don't like this. And it's happening again and again and at home we have stainless steel cups for them and stainless steel trays that looks like they're in prison to the rest of our family. They're like man you know give these kids something with a smiley face on it but it's like that's all plastic and paint should that all be going into the dishwasher?

55:26 It's crazy, I drive myself nuts thinking about all those poisons and my kids. But then I think hey, I lived in a pretty poisonous environment and I'm okay we all made it through the 80s and 90s were no cakewalk when it comes to toxic chemicals and food additives and food colorings and here we are Oh yeah, I've been doing my best to de-plastify my kitchen over the last couple of years. I think mason jars have become my best friend. Yeah that's a good one! Awesome stuff Yes Let's jump over to talent agencies. So this is another one of these areas where you can coordinate and concentrate bottleneck basically all the stuff that's coming and going, you have not only with the marketing there's only a couple of podcast marketing agencies that everyone uses as liaison to the products but talent agencies as well. And I thought this was interesting you covered one called

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MN2S Talent Agency and Intelligence Cutouts

7Cs investigates MN2S, a talent agency that reportedly represents a diverse range of figures from Alex Jones to Bill Clinton. Originally a DJ PR company, its current roster of high-level political figures and tech moguls raises suspicions of it being an intelligence cutout. 7Cs expresses interest in testing the agency's legitimacy by attempting to book talent through their site.

mn2s· jack posobiec· alex jones· elon musk· talent agency

56:27 MN2S, that seems a bit fishy. You refer to them as... Possibly an intelligence cutout, they represent Peter Thiel, Alex Jones, Elon Musk, Bill Clinton and a ton of others both sides of the aisle. You write in the vast and often opaque world of entertainment The faces we see on stage are rarely the ones pulling the strings behind the curtain lies a labyrinth of contracts gatekeeping And silent stakeholders entities that not only shape the careers of celebrities but also the cultural and political narratives We consume talk to us about this particular talent agency why did they stick out you compared to all the others. Yeah so i was doing some digging into the end of my friend network and i was looking in the jack passob specifically and with my show lies and ties are sort of open it up everyone is a like if there's a lead that we can look at or something if u wanna drop a source

57:23 Then I'll go take a look, we'll investigate and verify together. And someone dropped this MN2S thing with Jack Posobiec's profile so i went to go look And it pulled up and it's you know looks like a pretty cut of the mill. I believe i ended up doing some more digging in its all just built-in like wordpress so is this a wordpress website? And they have links for Alex jones, Peter teal, Elon musk, Bill clinton and various other people now they all say that they are the contact of the booking agent is this sharing el cabo sky.

58:06 and there's not a whole lot about him. Essentially, this Emin2s started as like a DJ PR company and they've represented other artists legitimately in the past. I believe it was Fatman Scoops was the last time they did an official release is a PR company because while they were representing him ended up dying on his tour But they claim to work with like Coca-Cola and YouTube and Netflix, Kellogg's Nike and Amazon. And different things like that. I am very tempted to try to place both a booking for talent myself

58:53 and also pretend to be a talent looking for an agency, calling this Sharon guy. And seeing what happens because I mean to me it seems very irresponsible to claim to represent all these things that have this big prominent website and have like no associations so either this is a huge scam that's being run or you can literally just contract out political voices for money And so either way, I mean it's really shady. The company has been around for about 30 plus years now so it just seems like a weird direction for them to take. Yeah its interesting how some things just rise to the top! This little DJ agency is now booking ex-presidents and the richest man in the world...I mean this isn't nothing but man as we're getting close to the end of this thing

CHAPTER 21 / 27 Discussion

The Five-Year Roadmap to Digital Integration

7Cs provides a roadmap for the next five years, predicting the introduction of a digital US dollar, automated social security, and universal basic income (UBI). He anticipates a surge in cancer rates caused by EMF radiation, which will be used to market new "cancer vaccines." The ultimate goal is the "human singularity" predicted by Ray Kurzweil to occur by 2045.

digital dollar· ubi· ray kurzweil· singularity· cancer vaccines

59:46 I wanted to wrap a bow around the major themes today and I want you to maybe lay out a roadmap of how you see this stuff going, how long do you think it will take to implement? How do you see it actually affecting the average person over the next 10 or 20 years. So I think these next few years they've kind of started to step on the gas a little bit knowing everything that i've known i've even been surprised at some of the things that have already come out and have been developed like the patient registration you can now do for neural link. Both in the US and the UK. I think in the next few years we're going to slowly start seeing more and more people sign up for that, claiming that it has changed their life and you know ailed pain or cured some disease or some ailment they've had then its gonna be this big medical breakthrough. You have tons of people signed up for that. I think that slowly Elon's going to launch enough satellites cover the earth and were going to have

1:00:48 no area on the planet that has no internet connectivity you might be able to go down into like some caves or something like that i'm we're going to see a revitalization of the american nuclear industry i think in the next few years they are going to have. You know like google nuclear reactor with like their branding audit everything like that I do foresee some sort of devastation within the US market to crash the dollar, to give us some sort of reason to move over to stable coins, Bitcoin and what have you. It could even be like in-the-Fed movement has largely been coopted by the technocrats so that they can remove the Federal Reserve

1:01:33 and then create this world digital economy i'm so again get you not like catch twenty two there's gonna be more vaccines are coming i think is going to completely revive revolutionize the medical industry for the worse You have the NIH director Jay Bhattacharya who's really good friends with Peter Thiel. You have RFK Jr who is basically bending over backwards to give the vaccines and the technocrats and all of them everything that they want, You have Trump with Operation Stargate, Larry Ellison talking about cancer vaccines. The CDC director is from DARPA and she's talked about AI in health so I think that we're seeing like a huge biotechnical push to integrate people with technology so that whether it's wearable, smartphone, chip or shot whatever that looks like will eventually be

1:02:33 pushed on to you to the point where if you don't have it, you can't transact within society. That's through like the crypto systems and the carbon tax credit system and things like that. I would say that within the next five years we're probably going to get to the point where there is some digital version of the US dollar I think that we are slowly starting to see that with like the changes from social security payments now being automated and digitized were gonna slowly see like this you be i come in it's going to be digital only.

1:03:12 we're seeing a in like medicare medicaid so is basically taking over everything on elon musk peter teal alex carl all these big tech the crap there sort of running it their partnering with you know people like benjamin net yahoo in israel who has no hesitation to like spy on the world and blackmail. You know, all these people were aligned with Jeffrey Epstein they're all lined with a Habad Lubavitch sect they all have like the Blackhats backing them And I think that, you know in the very near future we're going to see a stark increase in like cancer rates and they're going to use that to push a cancer vaccine like Larry Ellison was talking about. And I think it's going to come from all the EMF from all the data centers and satellites and spying and brain chips and things. Ray Kurzweil put it best that human singularity is supposed to happen by 2045 so

1:04:09 I would say that that's as far as where we're going, if people don't wake up and say like hey stop putting shit in and on my body. I think we're pacing for that. Sadly I gave up on mass change a long time ago and it's more about the individual and you can separate yourself and your family from a lot of this stuff and farming is the new punk rock. I just like that phrase But I'm with you on the roadmap. It does seem like you can see the ship has been steered in these directions, The road is long but that's the road we're on. I just think that the hardest sell is things under the skin. I don't know if they're gonna get that They can get it on their wrists, they can get it in a pocket Under the skin?

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Future Investigations and the Michael Flynn Network

7Cs outlines his upcoming research into the Michael Flynn network and its role in the QAnon phenomenon. He suggests that these movements are psychological operations (PSOs) linked to IARPA and designed to keep the public endeared to specific political figures. He also mentions an upcoming article regarding CIA-trained PR manipulators operating in the US.

michael flynn· qanon· christian nationalism· iarpa· trump

1:04:54 And there's some dumb people out there, I guess. But you're going to have to subsidize that. You're going to have to... Maybe if people had zero opportunity and you say hey get this chip and we will place you within this company because we know the value of the thing yeah you gonna have to incentivise it hard but i just can't imagine it but crazier things have happened so What's next for you? What are the investigations you're working on now or will be working on next. Where can people keep up with you, I would say you got to check out 7C's Twitter threads they're incredible and i'm hoping we're gonna put some of the images of the deep dive webs upon it on the screen behind me but

1:05:40 Yeah tell us what you're working on next and give me your links. Yeah i'm so currently i'm sort of working on the jordan pearson arc network just because i do think it's worth mapping out especially for the university of austin stuff, um and then the michael flynn network because in my opinion the biggest thing that sort of still keeping people endeared to donald trump and the A whole like save your thing is the queue side up that happened and i think a lot of that has been run by michael flynn in his cohorts. I'm digging into them and everything they sort of touch that unfortunately branches out into a lot of things like christian nationalism biotech,

1:06:24 You know, the Michael Schellenberger stuff a lot of stuff in the Trump web. But I do think that there is something there and eventually with enough piecing together can prove that it was like an iARPA thing And that's sort of what I'm working towards As far as where to find me you can find me on Twitter YouTube rumble I guess it's x now i'm still just call twitter and then sub stack i'm starting to write articles and stuff and actually have something coming out. Here very soon about how they will take people send them to like latin america central america under like

1:07:07 CIA training to come back and be like PR people or like manipulate public perception here and sort of a trend that I've seen with a lot of big wig PR guys that are doing that these days. Hmm, man Yeah lots of weird stuff going on. I heard about the you know The Israel gets a lot of attention but the PayPal mafia is largely this South African contingency this little cabal and all of a sudden we're importing people from South Africa it's like A lot of people have unadvertised interests and desires, and that's just the name of the game. But this was a lot of fun despite the darkness I consider you a very practical logical no-nonsense researcher but we did get to tiptoe into the weird stuff which i do appreciate And I hope people check out your work it is impressive thanks for taking the time and take care Hey thank you so much for having me this was an excellent opportunity huge fan of the show and happy to be back anytime Heck yeah!

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Palantir, In-Q-Tel, and CIA Funding

Greg Carlwood reflects on the 7Cs interview and discusses the origins of Palantir. He confirms that Palantir was funded by In-Q-Tel, a venture capital firm started by former CIA Director George Tenet. The segment highlights the "cringy" pop-culture naming conventions used by the company, such as their "Gotham" subdivision for compartmentalizing government data.

palantir· in-q-tel· cia· george tenet· gotham

1:08:07 And boom goes the dynamite people. 7C's a great researcher, he really does an excellent job with those crazy detailed graphs I threw a couple of them up on the screen to try to show you what they look like but I know that it's hard to display every little nuance that you can actually see because they're just so wide and so detailed but go to his Twitter, you can get the full scope of it. Dive in deeper. I just wanted to give you a sense of it we have the video now if not for this why would we use it for anything else? So really good, super enjoyed it. For these first five or so at least I really wanted to give you unique off the radar people that you haven't heard from for the launch of the video and of course I recorded a couple of these weeks in advance because i had to make sure this studio was going to work before I signed the deal and all this

1:09:03 And Sam Tripoli, he dropped an interview with seven seas I think yesterday. So he beat me to it. I took the risk of holding onto it for a couple of weeks and here we are and the information about palantir and doge mean some of it maybe a little couple weeks outdated but palantir news is. Certainly fresh now that there are feuding elon and trump it just seems like football was passed from one paypal co owner to another, Funny enough i did just here on no agenda they had a listener right and who said that he had an interview at palantir and that they really don't have the data sets that people think they have in there haven't even really been able to train their models because i dont have the data to train on. Okay i mean this guy went to an interview when was it before after ilan got all the data from all the places during the doge situation so,

1:10:00 i would say they probably have it now and these models seem to get trained quite quickly so im not really worried about them, being behind doesn't seem like its overblown the way this guy was suggesting that's overblown the cia i was just reading funded palantir from the ground up so elon and peter teal made this money from the paypal sale to ebay of all places i believe. And then When peter teal started palantir the first investor was in q tell and that is a cia company i actually google that because i didn't want it just to be speculation i wanted to see how true it was and yeah the washington post even said inq tell started as the idea of then cia director george tenet so.

1:10:53 Obviously it's easy to get government contracts when you are the government and they have a subdivision called gotham that compartmentalize is the government data project such cringy names all these pop culture references. What happened good old fashion esoteric babylonian symbolism and references to the old gods, Lotta great info though, I think this is the name of the game when it comes to what this country's gonna look like in a couple years. You got to watch The Technocracy that just in big bold flashing lights the main event and I thought the information about the work visas was really telling too It's not that they want to bring immigrants to replace the workers The AI is going to replace the workers They just need a guy in the IT booth

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Podcast Ethics and the Value-for-Value Model

Carlwood discusses his personal distaste for podcast advertisements and his commitment to a listener-funded model. He addresses recent controversies involving Ian Carroll and the Wellness Company, noting that 7Cs provided research that justifies skepticism toward those entities. The host emphasizes the importance of maintaining independence from the "shady" podcast sponsor network.

advertising· value-for-value· higher side plus· ian carroll· the wellness company

1:11:41 And then of course you know that i like throwing a little shade at the podcast sponsors that are big in this field and i can't say thc will never ever have ads just the world is so volatile right now i got at least keep the door cracked open, i will do everything i can my power first. And yeah, the influence is a thing. But honestly just as a listener of shows I just hate to see those interruptions pop up when a guest is on a roll it just ruins the flow of this show you make this great show and then you fill out with this stuff. I just don't like it from a format perspective really and I am spiteful of the fact that it's the only way content gets made

1:12:21 It really is like TV was always ad revenue based and movies were always you paid to go to the theater. So I'm trying to do it more that way we pay to get the content, we like and we leave advertisers out of it. Of course movies didn't really leave advertisers out of it but I'm trying here And yes, the irony is not lost on me that for a guy who says he hates how much time ads take up in content I'm spending a lot of time in this content recently talking about ads and not even running them. So... That's probably even worse but it was relevant today! I think it deserves at least to mention and I'm glad I could just have a conversation with 7Cs about the totality of his work without worrying about any awkward conflicts of interest or anything like that

1:13:05 Obviously audiences have to decide how much that stuff matters to them based on the numbers it seems to be not at all. I'm gonna give myself a pat on the back today at least in the second hour we went deeper on some individual people and individual companies, we got seven seas take on why he doesn't trust the wellness company think something's up there. We got a little bit into ian carroll lot of people have feelings about that guy You know, I like to stay pretty neutral on stuff like that. But seven C's has done some research and he found some stuff that was worth mentioning especially regarding the two guys that Ian Carroll is doing a podcast with

CHAPTER 25 / 27 Discussion

Blue Light, Seed Oils, and Health Scapegoats

The discussion explores Dr. Jack Kruse’s theories on blue light as a primary driver of modern health issues and a tool for mental manipulation. Carlwood wonders if the current focus on "seed oils" is a scapegoat for other damages, such as vaccine injury or glyphosate poisoning. He notes the historical pattern of the food industry shifting blame between sugar and cholesterol to protect corporate interests.

dr. jack kruse· blue light· seed oils· glyphosate· big pharma

1:13:44 Also in the plus show the wellness company conversation spiraled out into well what do you think about big pharma and just the whole virus paradigm. In general and then i just got a pic this brain about various parts of the new conspiracy can dinosaurs and a lot of interesting things so, I am glad that i got a little bit of a segue to talk about nicole shanahan and the doctor jack cruz thing cuz i just find that saga very interesting. And dr jack cruise talking about the big conspiracy being blue light coming from all of our devices, that this was weaponized he has a video that i saw the other day where you talks about how they found out they could use

1:14:30 various signals to manipulate the minds of bowls when the matadors were fighting the balls they could get him to stop turn around do all this stuff and it was all wired into their brain and so then the next step is what can this be done wirelessly can we manipulate the mind make them more docile, wireless yeah they could and it was with blue light and surprise blue light is emitting from all of our devices. That is something that goes so under the radar. Dr Jack Cruz is one of the few people highlighting it every time he talks and He says, It's more important than diet and it very well could be but it's a much bigger addiction than my diet I can stop eating ice cream more than I can stop all screen usage sorry

1:15:17 That's just how it goes sometimes right we want to believe the things that are hardest for us to give up our last damaging than advertised and we might put the blame somewhere else luckily. In our situation or unfortunately there is a lot of places to shift the blame, we can say hey cigarettes got a lot of people thankfully i don't smoke cigarettes so we can look over at seed oils be like man probably all those seed oil can't be the blue light from the screens i'm constantly staring into And maybe it is seed oils i really don't know there's now a lot of people saying that this seed oil blame might actually be escape go for vaccine damage or blue light and working under these fluorescence. Because this has happened before right they shifted the blame from sugar instead was all cholesterol and, maybe this is the same old trick throwing all the shade at seat oils when really

1:16:12 It's not the seed oils themselves it might be the raw materials that are used being soaked in glyphosate and then turned into oils. That are the real problem so it might just be the poison on the plant, Who could have ever figured that out? Who really knows though, these are just some of the things I've been reading lately that make logical sense to me. But sign up for PLUS if you want twice as much show! Now is the time while we're still in that month where all PLUS members are getting the video but... In higher side news Got a lot of compliments on the video. A lot of positive feedback, very little grumbling at all people seem to be pretty optimistic and they enjoyed it and they're happy about this trajectory so all good

CHAPTER 26 / 27 Discussion

Higher Side News and Community Meetups

Greg Carlwood provides updates on the Higher Side Plus video launch and technical improvements for casting video to TVs. He reviews the upcoming meetup calendar, including events in San Antonio, Los Angeles, and a "raw milk party" in Massachusetts. Listeners are encouraged to use the meetup site to build local networks in preparation for future societal disruptions.

higher side plus· meetups· san antonio· los angeles· raw milk

1:16:56 There was one issue where people couldn't figure out how to cast the video because I said you could. Well, that was on me in the options and the back end there is a toggle for that so i switched it on and now you will see the cast button right there in the video and you can throw it up on the TV We're also working on that thing I mentioned where we will email a link that has your login info encoded into it. So you click it, boom and you should be able to watch the video that way that cuts down on the friction but we now got two in the bag fully released and I know what's in the pipeline so I'm excited! I think you'll like it when it comes to The Last Show with Chris. I just scoped out the rating... It got a 4.9

1:17:42 I guess that was a good strategic choice to start off with Lucifer's technologies. It is some of my favorite material, Chris' while everybody is saying spaceship crash in the desert, Chris is saying ritual and I think Chris will be vindicated with time. I don't know if the rating is completely content related or it's also just the excitement of video or some people just wanted to give me an attaboy for making a difficult change that puts more pressure on me but either way I appreciate If you're liking the show, I'm liking the show and it's just a win-win all around. So awesome! All right and the other thing we do around here is look at the meetup calendar let's see if anything has been added and just pump up events that are here so tomorrow June 8th we got to San Antonio Texas Halcyon South Town and The Trails Cafe in LA

1:18:31 i definitely would be interested in hearing how that goes and l.a is a big place but it's kinda popping off as far as i can tell, as we speak i think the guy just got hit by an ice van because he wouldn't stop trying to stop moving vehicle and he had his head and died so Prepare for an interesting week in LA and then june fourteenth we have the lanesborough massachusetts raw milk party. And june twenty eighth orlando florida at blue jacket park people are meeting up, and then eden terrence auckland new zealand coming around again gail braths ale house in july on the twenty first

1:19:12 i like it there are meetups all across this great land and just so you know you can always hop on higher side meetups dot com free and open anyone make a local event choose a local business they get a little shout out to a larger audience that's kinda cool free advertising for Independent places and then people show up and you can talk to them about all this crazy stuff that we get into on THC. And know that some local people now think like you think, and you have someone to call when the next lockdown happens in everyone else's freaking out Anyway, I think that is it for me. Check out 7C's work if you liked the things he had to say the impressive graphs he has are worth taking a look at and sign up for plus if you want more of this show A 15 year long ad free archive or just want to show appreciation for a truly independent venture Thanks for all the love and support! I'm so lucky to be able to do this And this transition is going great as awkward as I feel during parts of it but

CHAPTER 27 / 27 Discussion

Outro and Closing Music

The show concludes with a final call to action against technocratic overreach and a summary of the day's themes. Greg Carlwood signs off as the closing music plays, featuring lyrics about connecting dots and the "spider" behind the web.

greg carlwood· 7cs· technocracy· higher side chats· outro

1:20:14 I've done my part. Your move, shady podcast sponsors new alt media agents and technocracy takeover tyrants your fucking... Once I found a smoking gun but nobody else saw it once someone returned my money but had stolen my wallet twice i was bitten but i didn't get shy I've been drinking from a cup that's always boned by You can still make out in spiders not seen, you can't get lines in one more And a tribute to malice what goes deeper than greed? I broke a mirror right before the best seven years of my life. I crossed the street and looked both ways and I'm still gonna die

1:21:29 The flags fly at half-mast whenever it's my birthday Notice when you can still make out When the spiders knock the dots Just draw some and attribute to malice What goes deeper than grief? Somethings over your head How can it be too deep I don't like to cause confusion If you know what I mean

1:22:25 I've seen the sun shine brightest on the darkest of day A rich man once told me that's when the best deals are made You can still make out, The web When the spider is not seen you can connect The dots just draw some lines in between When you can smell the Alice walk You can still make the dots just draw some

1:23:26 The higher side chats versus the machine